A shocking loss for powerlifting

We were saddened to learn of the accidental death over the weekend of Kim Tran AKA Kim Valentine. We discussed some of her accomplishments on the platform and the role she played in bringing women and Asian lifters into the sport. Kim was a guest on our previous podcast 9 years ago. You can watch that episode here: https://youtu.be/oKz4tBIQdGU?si=RyITUYZ6vfoQFe5O

In lighter discussion, we list the “16 seasons of Sacramento” (crazy for a place people think only has two). We also take a look at USAPL Nationals. Will the federation survive its rivalry with Powerlifting America? What could be done to make big national meets more fun for the crowd? Could the answer be side quests?  

Mike related how gaming in a lull at the moment, and Jim shared a recent brush with AI for a writing process.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Good morning. We're back. We're here,
We're back. Yes, we're alive. Our schedule has been a little,
I don't know, peripatetic. Maybe this year very off and
on like not that you guys would know, but you know,
the real for us, the real timeline where the whether yeah,

(00:33):
where the rubber meets the road whatever the rubbers meeting today?
I think it's Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
I don't listen to a lot of podcasts, but I
saw a massonomics. They do a lot of zoom, even
with each other now.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah, because they don't live in the same place anymore.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
And then Tommy moved to.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Fargo or something some other Dakota. No, not Fargo, and
that a bed half black film. It is, No, it's
pretty good.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
No, Fargo is a Cohen Brothers film.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
I don't agree with the Ben affleck but I heard
Fargo's pretty good. Is in it?

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Or am I dripping?

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Then they made a series based on the place and
the spirit, but in different time frames. Noah, Holly, it's
very good, but it is Uh. It requires attention when
you can't really like. I think that the probably the
most attention requiring series that I have yet to actually

(01:34):
dive into is Showgun because in multiple languages and all
kind of subtitles.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, I think I watched one episode, and.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
I mean it's supposed to be very good. I was
supposed to be very gory. But and it's up for
a ship ton of Emmys this coming Sunday. Yeah, maybe
maybe it may win the most.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Ever, I don't have a lot of brain power for
shows like that anymore. I wish I did.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
I you know, I don't so much as I used
to either.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
I don't know why, but it is true for all
iPad kids.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, I mean, like, you know, my wife and I
were talking about this last night, like, Okay, we're gonna
watch it at some point, but when we watch it,
we're not gonna do anything else. We're going to dim
the lights in the room and we're just gonna concentrate
on the screen. Yeah, but that might require me buying
a new TV. And I don't know if she's saying,
not that there's anything wrong with my current TV, but
I would like a bigger one if I'm gonna watch
Showgun on it, if you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
So.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
True a projector cheap Yeah, No, that wouldn't work much.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
TVs are kind of cheap too, now they.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Cannot be too bad.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, and they get like pretty good quality.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
House of Dragons even I'm trying to watch and you
gotta pay attention. Not as bad as Game of Thrones,
but still pretty bad.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
I am. I'm watching that Lord of the Rings series,
the Rings of Power, and I can tell you the
second season is pretty good. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
I think Lord of the Rings fans like the first
one too. I think it was just like random folks didn't.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
I didn't give it a go.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Really, it is harder to get into because there's so
much stuff going on in it. But the characterization is
so much better in this season, for whatever the writings.
But I don't know.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
That's the same with the House of Dragons first season.
They just have so much set up. It's so slow.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Yeah, it's all exposition, which I get because they're whatever. Yeah,
House Dragon second season was much better.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, it's good, getting to move, getting to move a bit.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
But I was watching one, probably the most recent episode
of Rings of Power, and it's at the end of
that episode there, you know, is the process of making
the next group of Rings, like the Elf rings have
already been made and they don't have any taint of

(03:42):
sourn on the medal. But the next rings, to the
dwarf rings and the human rings, they're just starting to make. Literally,
like we see pouring the metal, right, and that ends,
and uh, I'm watching it. It's on Amazon, and then
it automatically goes to yet another program and it's the

(04:05):
first scene of the Lord of the Rings movies and
that's the same freaking scene. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah, they're pouring the gold or whatever into the Yeah.
Amazon bought Hella Lord of the Rings rights. They were
supposed to make a huge video game that got like
tabletop and then I don't know if it was another movie,
but there's a bunch of shit they were supposed to do,
and it was not called RPG. It was supposed to
be I think a open world. Yeah, like an open

(04:36):
world World of Warcraft type shit. Yeah, that's what yeah
I was gonna do. Yeah mmo, ok, yeah, like an RPG.
Mmo yeah I was about it too. I don't really
play games like that, but Lord of the Rings would
have been sick and I don't know what happened, but
something happened, maybe budgets who knows.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
I don't know. The gaming world is very weird right now.
You never know who's going to take a dive.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
No, gaming is very crazy because esports just went absolutely
berserk during COVID, and so did streams, and streaming still
very popular. And but like esports all tanked, A bunch
of them went under, A bunch of guys threw money
at it. Steph Curry owns part Drake, like all these
people through money, but like the business model just isn't
there yet because the tournaments like don't pay enough. So

(05:19):
like it's all based on like social media.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Sounds a little bit like, No, it is.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
It's all very similar. It's all very similar. We're the
only way to make money is social media. But then
like why would you join an esports team? But you
kind of need some organization, yeah, because some esports are
team based. They did the Saudi World Cup of Esports
or whatever EWC Esports World Cup, and that looked like

(05:44):
it went well and they obviously got money, but it's once.
I think it'll do it once a year and that
was like million dollar prize pools and yeah, I don't know. Yeah,
and then game no, no, new games come out, it's
kind of like movies, right, they'll just remake a game
and yeah, charge you based on fandom. But some of
the best games are free. Some of the most popular
esports games are absolutely free. So that's where the whole

(06:06):
business model goes crazy. I mean movies too, right, movies, TV,
everything's just regurgitated ship.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Which one is free?

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Video games? Yeah, which everything Like Apex is one of
the biggest esports right now, even though, but then like
it's an interesting thing.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Fortnite. Fortnite's free night.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
I don't know if Roadblocks is free, but it's probably
free your cheek, I think, yeah, free, and then you
buy skins, yeah, by skin.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah, it's kind of the new business model.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
But it's unloadable content, yeah, exactly, And then people are
spending real money on that, which I've.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Never been purchased as.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
They also say, yeah, and there's lawsuits and weird shit
there because of like some of it's random.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
But then is it gambling? And like what are they
charging you for? Right?

Speaker 2 (06:47):
And then yeah, are you taking advantage of kids that
have no clue and they're buying.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
For sure you are. Yeah, let's let's adults too.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
They get addicted because like your promise this if you
get ten boxes or whatever the fuck it.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
It is a crazy world.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
But gaming's more popular than ever, but it seems like
I can't name the newest game that's.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Like popular thoughts.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
They're all I honestly like Fortnite just tapped out. I'm
in it too, and then there's still there's just not
Fortnite just had its like uh fncs like their championship
this weekend, and I was big. But that's fucking seven
years old. Now, six years old, Jesus fuck. Yeah, right,
twenty nineteen, I bet, yeah, eighteen, Yeah, twenty probably eighteen,

(07:31):
probably like late twenty eight. Yeah, it's insane, it's insane. Yeah,
it is a weird conundrum of making money. Someone's making
the money. It is like powerlifting. Someone's making the money,
but who knows where?

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Who knows? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, I saw our report by our boy Bryce Lewis
to turn around to some powerlifting. USAPL Nationals was last
weekend and Bryce is not it for a while where
he I don't know what his rank is, but it
might be an open meeting too.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
He goes to like the executive meeting.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
I think he always goes yeah, and I don't know
if he has a role in it or he just
likes to be informed because he's obviously a coach and
now he runs a media company for them, but he
always takes notes on it. And they said they lost
like three to five thousand members this year. Two assume
Powerlift America.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yeah, I mean I don't think that patrician. Yeah, all
of it, all of the above.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
I don't know what the normal rate of loss is, right,
And I don't know if that was like net loss
or yeah, but I.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Assume it was.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Hence they were reporting on it, because every year you're
going to get some kind of turnover, but the sport
is still growing ish and so it sounds like they're
pretty aware of their competitors and Powerlifting America, but like
they got nothing to offer. I mean, that's just the truth.
They have nothing to offer in their FED right now
besides accessibility. But that's on the meat director, it's not

(08:44):
on the FED.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
And I was reading a very lengthy Powerlisting subreddit post
about this whole issue, saying that there were not very
many vendors and it was not particularly well attended. Yeah,
I want it just because though when we went to
to Vegas, a couple of years ago, it was nuts. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
I wonder if the vendors thing has to do with
like what they charge, right, because that's what slowly started
to kill the Arnold and all that. Obviously COVID, but
it was it's also just so expensive. So you're gonna
spend twenty g's to do a weekend there, and you
got to get your shit there.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
I could imagine the USAPL charging way over rated prices too,
and maybe.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
That twenty five or more.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, yeah, so you go twenty five hundred. Let's say
it is that, which isn't like crazy, but if you're
in the Arnold, so yeah, if you're saying you're in Utah, yeah,
and you have a business in Miami, Florida. Yeah, now
you gotta fly all your products, all your team, all
your booths, set up, plus hotel. For now USAPL nats
is like six days, five days, it's like five, so
you got to be there seven because you got set up,

(09:44):
clean up minimum. Yeah, you're probably looking at the thirty
g weekend. Yeah, you know, like and and if they
have nothing to attract viewers besides a little bit of lifting,
no viewers are going to go. No. And so how
are you supposed to make thirty five g to make
it worth your weekend?

Speaker 1 (10:01):
I have to be honest with you. I actually watched
everybody's recap videos. I did not watch the stream, So.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
You're an iPad kid. Yeah, he's watching the clips. Yeah, yeah,
that's where we see them. I mean powerlifting should benefit
from the era of ADHD in clips, right, because the
whole meat is fucking boring. Yeah, all you need is
the recap, which again, like I understand you should live
stream it probably, but how is someone not doing a
recap of the whole weekend?

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Correct?

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Like you could make a whole YouTube channel and just
do that and.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Have much feet access to the video.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, yeah, I have much success like USA pop should have.
Just do that and then obviously that's what strong Man's
done for fifty years. Yeah, because it makes sense, Like, yeah,
you can live streaming, it'd be kind of cool. But
like once you chop it up, you get an interviewer too,
you get only the good angles, you get the good misses,
you get the good makes. We don't need that. We
don't need to see every single person's opener, you know,

(10:52):
especially in a prime time.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Almost and if that's unless that's the only lift they make.
I do not need to see anybody's open, right, I don't,
especially at high level. I just want to see the
last made lift. Yeah, and if and the misses if
they're controversial, right, and this is the only stuff to watch.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
And if we have a head to head, you'll show
the seconds to build some hype and some tension. And
that's a duel, that's different. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just
so easy to do. But for some reason, yeah, I
don't know, maybe USAPO should hire me to consult your
dumb shits, Like there's just so many little things you
can do, yeah, you know, like even like and it's
already laid out for you. Sure, powerlifting has a couple disadvantages.

(11:29):
But you go and I've never been, but you see
it on TV. You go to NFL All Star weekend,
you go to NBA All Star Weekend and they have
a dunk contest. So how do you not have just
like a deadlift off for three grand or whatever?

Speaker 1 (11:41):
The fuck?

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Why don't you or a supplement sponsor? You know they
have all these sponsors. Say hey, man, would you be
willing to sponsor someone for a year. I'm sure they'd
say Yeah, and whoever wins the deadlift competition wins that sponsorship.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Men, there's a million things you could do. They always have,
like a forty yard dash and a combine test during
the the NFL weekend shit like that. Pres what's his name,
fucking King of the Illuminati, Michael Rubin. Michael Rubin just
did like a hunch uh Fanatic Weekend or something.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
He because he owns Lidds.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Do you know Michael Rubin? Nah, you don't know the
King of the Illuminati, that's what they say.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Allegedly.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Uh, he uh owns lids and then he owns maybe
the Sixers. He's a Philadelphia guy, but he owns Fanatics.
I think it's like a Draft Kings type thing, right.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Fanax is an apparel company, all right? Whatever? He fat
League contracted.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah, he fucking crushes it. And he lid you know, Lidds. Yeah,
so he started with Lidds and now I think he
owns maybe you have Draft Kings or something else on
top of that. And then he might even own part
of the seventy six ers. I don't know. But he
runs this like sports event where there's like cards and collecting.
He had all the celebs out there, like Tom Brady's
hanging out every like everybody. Quavo like he's homes with

(13:02):
all these guys and all they do is little games
like that.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
You know, they have like a little.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Goal and people are shooting hockey pucks into it for
a hat and they have like how are you not
doing something like a carnival game with powerlifting? And then yeah,
like depending on your demographic, maybe make it slightly more
adult rather than kid base, because this is trying to
get you know, kids to buy basketball cards or whatever
the fuck.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
But it might be cool if you could actually like
do a twist on something so you're not doing exactly
the practition lift you're doing some Yeah you do body weight.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
For reps or whatever the fuck? Yeah you know even
yeah two twenty five for reps. It doesn't matter. Yeah,
like you just give a baby prize and then maybe
have a couple that are on stage that are big deals,
you know, like intermission Yeah yeah, I mean you go
to a Lakers game and fucking halftime Farrell is gonna
come out and saying, yeah, something's gonna happen, right, like
if this is supposed to if you're trying to attract

(13:53):
people to go watch a boring ass sport in Salt
Lake City on a random ass September. Yeah, you know,
like we got to do something.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
But really what it comes down to is only the
vendors and not even all of them are the ones
who are making a living off of selling the power
lifters and nobody else is and so they're not putting
any of the additional effort like that.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Right, but that would get ticket sales up. That helps everyone, Right,
you get ticket sales up, which helps the the usapl itself.
You know, you get more sponsored the more the more
people you have in person, the more vendors.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
You would get. Right, It's like a cyclical thing.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Because you get more people, your job is get people,
because then you could sell more vending because they want
to go. Because there's people. Then you could sell more
sponsorships because they want more eyes. You know, like it
is a win win if they got just a hair creative.
But when we went, they kicked you out of every session, right,
you had to repay for every session, which is just
nickel and diamond, and then you got nowhere to go.
You're just sitting on the floor in a lobby exactly

(14:52):
like it's just insane, like, just have something lined up.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
They had higher qualifying totals this year, so there are
a few next year.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yeah, next year is the giant jump. This year, I
think they had less people for sure, because I think
they were averaging around two thousand added nationals and they
had like thirteen hundred sea bass.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Have you memorized that the totals and replacement of all
of our folks who competed.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
At Yeah, we had a bunch of fu I have
not I know our got a second.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah, and the juniors dude, no one. J Jason Micah
got a second. I think too, Oh, Jason Mia Yeah,
I think so, Okay, I'm not one hundred percent sure
on that. Julia lifted, yeah, Trevor, Trevor, I think this
was also a second place.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, I know he was dummy strong. And then I
think Jackie Jackie lifted as well. Okay, a bunch of
people went out, Avy went out a did.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Aviy lift her?

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yeah she did? She did.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, I haven't seen anything she'd be okay, I know
she's still all right.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
All right, but she knew I mean she's coming back
from injury.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
But yeah, they because of our qualifying total ad or
in primetime. Okay, yeah, I think she went somber nine.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
I think it's just good just to get out.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah yeah, that was textra for a bit. It's so
easy to get out of the loop of competitive power
lifting and just not have the drive to do it anymore.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Or when you're injured, like when do you choose to
come back? Like do you only come back? It's kind
of like the first meat you've ever done, Like do
you set this standard like I'm not going to compete
till bench three fifteen. Well, well then, bit, you're never
gonna compete. Yeah, you know, like and so it's kind
of the same with injury, like eventually you just got
to rip the band aid and compete. Whether your numbers
are exactly what you want to be. If you're paying free,
it's probably time to compete. If you're a competitor.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yeah, yeah, Well, I wanted to cover one of the
things that we deal with here in Sacramento. It's called
these sixteen seasons of Sacramento. They say that the West
Coast only has two seasons. This is not correct. It's
particularly not correct for us.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Yeah, La, yeah, but even La, even La and San Francisco,
like they're San Francisco's sixty year round.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
In La Is seventy year round except during this summer
when San Francisco's in the fifties. Yeah. Yeah, the the
sixteen seasons of Sacramento winter what they call fools Spring,
when it starts to warm up and the birds are
singing and things. The thing about blooming dates here. But then, yeah,

(17:17):
I think that it's a feel thing, though, you know
what I mean, it doesn't really hit the same time
every year. Yeah, there's the second winter after that, which
shuts down the fools Spring. There's the pollening. Well, I
think when the cumshot trees start to bloom. We used
to be called the City of Trees.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
I forgot I was talking to I was talking to
somebody in Vegas who's from Reno in Montana, and they
knew we were the City of Trees. I was like, dude,
it used to be. And he's like, oh, it's such
a good name and you're such beautiful trees. I was like, yeah,
we're farm to Fork or something.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Bullshit, not as not as good as City of Trees.
I have no idea. What I don't know, man, because
it's because farm to Fork is a hell of a
lot more monetizable than City of Trees.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, I thought, I thought, maybe that's the negative marijuana references.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
I probably know most people we can ever get that, though,
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
I mean I get it, but I barely get it.
After that, we have a mosquito spring, which is a
thing that affects us here because of the uh our
rivers are. Yes, we're very close to the river and
we have you know, open roll up doors all the time.
But there really are bad mosquitoes.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yeah, yeah, like just in general, because I think there's
I mean, Sacramento is basically like if you stretch out,
it's kind of like a weird peninsula of rivers. There's
like two rivers that create us.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yeah, literally two rivers, uh misquit. I said, miss you
to Spring Road construction, which is actually a year round year.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
I feel like it's always been. I was talking to
someone to one of my Uber drivers, and Watt Avenue
in fifty is kind of like the entrance I used
to use to get anywhere because I grew up in
that neighborhood and uh, I swear to God, like sixteen
years of my life they're redoing it.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
I believe that. And now it looks gorgeous, like it's
so pretty.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
But like they were just like adding a bike path
to it and like a bike bridge and then like
adding trees. I don't really know what they were doing.
And the cement looks nice. It does look nice, but
like swear to god, sixty years.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Well two blocks from us here that you know, they
they made a one week street back into a two
way street.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, I saw that yesterday. I saw a truck looking
at me.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah. Like, well, actually when I go through their Sunday,
there are a bunch of people still park the wrong way,
which I don't.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Even Yeah, I think they literally flipped the switch this week.
But it ends right there though, right.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Yeah, it'll eventually go all the way to h though
I think they're just doing it a block at a time.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
It's on the it's if you go up Vane from there,
it does end up at the arena, So like I
get maybe has to do with that.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah, because that that's two ways. Yeah yeah, but they
shut that down so often. Yeah. California summer is described
as being May fifth through eighth. What does that mean?
Just like high eighties? Yeah, nice nice, yeah, nice nice
for us comfortable yeah, like the the where you wish

(20:08):
it would stick but it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
The issues is like those type of summers. If you
do like that, whatever city you want that in, your
winners are gonna suck. Yeah, Like like Cleveland summers are
kind of nice because it's like eighties and humid, but
then you're in ice for three months. You know, like
you you're not going to get a nice La. I
mean in the beach side of LA, not downtown real
La does get nineties and hot. But if you're beachside LA,

(20:33):
sure you can have that summer.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Then we have a season known as Satan's butthole, which
that is when it gets hot before any of us
are actually capable of dealing with the heat May the June.
Our bodies are not yet adjusted to the the triple
digit temperatures that might show up there for the first time.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
As it turn quick yeah, turns quick, yeah, like a
week or two, and you're like, fuck's nice seventies, eighties,
and all of a sudden it's one ten.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yeah, and then it snaps back to spring three, which
is referred to as the springing.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Uhh, I'm lost.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah, where the temperatures drop back down for a little
while and you think, oh, maybe the summer won't be
so bad.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Like a week in June, are we talking about? Are
we talking?

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah about a week in June? Yeah, yeah, usually the
first second week of June is like a little bit
like that, where it's like how often does it especially
used to I don't know so much right now, but
used to reign during graduations.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, yeah, so that was, you know, in June, or
even like a nineties Yeah, like it really is, and
if you're from you know, the Central Valley, nineties just
really isn't that bad.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah. After that, we have first wildfire. I feel like
this year's been a little tame. Eh, the big one Chico,
which is the biggest ever I think right now. Yeah,
I think. I don't think it's completely contained.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
I didn't hear about it.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, it's a it's a big as part of the
park fire. Uh ghost Pepper summer, which is just hot as.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Absolute hell yeah yeah every summer. Uh.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
And then second wildfire, which, uh, everything that got dried
out during the Ghost Pepper summer is now on fire.
Then we have false Fall, which, as I think a
couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Ago we hit yeah, or maybe even in front of us,
I feel like to say, I think it's coming out.
Sometimes September will gets you in like a nice eighties
and you're like, oh shit, you know, leaves start falling.
Then you get another couple weeks one hundred on nowhere.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
Yesterday was nearly one hundred degrees. Before that was over
one hundred degrees whatever. Today is eighty five.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah, yeah, maybe we're in there right now, so we
may be in false fall now. Sometimes you w like
a Thanksgiving that's ninety yeah, you know, sometimes I have
a Thanksgiving that's raining too, But sometimes yeah, you go like, fuck,
it's hot.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Then we have had a pen of summer where it
gets hot.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Again, less spicy than ghost spicy thing goes yeah, but
still hot.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
That's like typically, although this last few days is not
a good example of it, but it's like hot during
the day and cool at night.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah, today was okay because it was like riding in
here is like sixty. Yeah, that is one difference between
here and like Vegas, because Vegas, like you wake up
at six am, it's like ninety degrees.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Yeah, You're like, what the fuck's going on?

Speaker 2 (23:21):
It's like midnight and it's still like ninety five. Yeah,
you're like, fuck, bro, It's just we're in a magnifying
glass over here.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
We're Sacramento. Even in uh Satan's butt Hoole and Ghost Pepper.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Nighttime can get to like eighty if like sun will
set at seven, if you go and get like dinner,
you're going out and it's like eight or nine. I
remember that when I was younger and actually did things,
it was like nice, you'd like I'd roll with the
windows down at eight thirty at night and it's like
eighty five.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, for sure. After that we have smoky fall.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
I really hope that that is not a thing that
a fire reference.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
It's a fire reference, yes, because.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Smoky fall, I feel like it's just a nice tone.
It could be right, yeah, right, do you think of
like whiskey and smoky yeah, kind of coffee pumpkinny because
that is my favorite time here for sure.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
It's like the smell of leaves burning, like you're on
the East Coast but you're not. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah, I like all the leaves and the orange and
the brown, and we do have a good fall here. Besides, yeah,
the despite the sad name, there.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, and then after that comes of the claw, and
that is you You really have to be a Sacramento
person to understand what the claw is.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
I don't know if I know the claw.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
The claw starts in November every year, so that one's
actually pegged at a point in time. The claw is
when you can put your green waist out on the
street and they come with the claw and pick it
up and put it in a big dumpster, a big
you know, dump truck, and that lasts through I don't
have a Greens through through Christmas. I don't have a

(24:56):
true First of the year because usually that's how you
can get rid of your Yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
I had a Greens and the burbs, but I don't
have a Greens downtown.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
But we that you we used to have that year round.
Streets used to be covered with like greenways, shit down
all the time, and now we have greenways. You know.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Barrels Vegas they do once a month, like uh, there
are pretty tight regulations, but they kind of do like
a free trash pick up, so you can do like
really big boxes. I think Christmas tree type stuff would
type stuff. And I think it's run by the city.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
It's kind of nice.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
Pretty cool, Yeah, because like you know, like those recycling bins,
like if you have a legitimate box, especially with Amazon culture,
like you're gonna fill your recycling too easy.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
That's like when you go to Costco and they ask
you if you want to box too many. No, I
don't want to fox, I don't want to recycle your cardboard.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Or speaking of like TVs or couches, you get something
like legitimate. That box is fucked where where?

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Yeah, Vegas.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
I think it's once a month. They'll just come and
snag that for free or maybe not free, but part
of your trash, which is nice. And we have what
boy scouts around that time too that try to come
grab like TVs and trees.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah, there's usually a lot of e waste drives. Yeah,
for sure, it's good they make some money off of it.
I don't know how what the mechanism there is. I
just saw that they're putting a bunch of recycling centers
even here in Sacramento, so it's supposed to be easier
to recycle your bottles and cans.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
There's one behind my house.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Clap your hands.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Not to dogs myself, but there's one kind of close
to me. Not that close but kind of but not
really uh about ten miles yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,
just throw quick taxi very far but it's uh, super
far away. But I don't know if it's like where
they bring shit or if you can bring shit. I've
never actually been.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
So the reason they call it the clause's there's like
a heavy machinery, like a loader kind of thing, and
it's got yeah, and it's got two wedge shaped like
jaws or arms or whatever that pick stuff up and
then dumping in the truck.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
That's got to be one of the first AI rowbody trucks, right,
Oh maybe, I don't know, Like who wants to be
a trash man? It pays, it does, That's what Dan's father.
Dan's father did the whole answer management. But it pays
really really yeah, but they don't care.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
That's more reason for them to want a robot.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
True potentially yeah, right, are you gonna pay really really
well or are you gonna have something else?

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Just do it for free? Season good lord? Speaking of
it of AI's driving vehicles, though I saw it wasn't
I followed that'll buff out on on Instagram. Is just
like constant accident videos very cathartic to watch, but it was.
This was a different one, but it probably would have
fit there where there was a self driving car that

(27:46):
for some reason ran into like rear ended another car,
and it shut down all the sensors for some reason,
and so it just kept fucking going. It just it
ran another car down and all all this stuff. I
just like had a mind of its own that wasn't thinking.
I guess I don't know, but clearly there was a

(28:08):
malfunction because once the sensor stopped working, it should have
just stopped.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yeah, an emergency deal. Dan was just in one sentence
selfie video. Oh in San Francisco, right, Yeah, driving around
he like in one of those whatever driving away. Yeah,
I was like, bro test happing, Like where can you go?
Like send that bitch to Santa Cruz or something. I
was like what's the limit, And He's like I don't
really know. I was like, can I ask it?

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Figure it out? Yeah? I figure that I I uh
have tickets to the King's Home opener, but I did
not look at my calendar very closely. I'm actually supposed
to have to San Francisco and pick my mother in
law up from her trip to Austria, Germany, whatever, send

(28:52):
the AI, send them out. I just actually had my
first experience with using AI to write something on a
longer basis, and I have to say that it was
actually pretty rewarding because it's good because I mean, I
use it. I've used it for short things and stuff
and titles and whatever, you know, and you know, we

(29:14):
we've been using it for item descriptions for a long
time yea, because it's built into Shopify. But I had
a particular piece of something I needed to write, and
I didn't honestly, I wanted to be a little bit
more generic. I didn't want to provide a whole hell
of a lot of information. I needed to be structured.

(29:34):
I didn't want to look up the structure myself. I
didn't want to come up with all of the bullet
points or whatever. And I just did it and it
was like two seconds and then it was and then
I just tweaked it. That was it.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Like the beauty is the fine tuning because you can
get it to be specific as ship. Yeah, you know,
you just feed it info. Hey it's x y Z,
it's you know, one, two three, you I'll fucking line
that up to Yeah, it's pretty versatile.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
That's talk into a couple of friends last night and
I was talking about this, about this exact thing, and
one of my friends was like, yeah, man, I have
to pull these massive presentations out of my ass every
couple of weeks. It'd be so much easier if I
could have an AI do it. And it's like, I
wonder if you can. I said, I wonder if you
can have AI like draw from your own documents. Sure,

(30:20):
it's like yeah, but wait a minute, I could probably
ask AI if that's possible, and.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
I did, and it is a couple of them. You
might have to like pay, but then a lot of
them you can upload files written or visual and it'll
do it all.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
That's that's really the that's the key. It's like, you know,
the work nobody wants to do. Yeah, it's an assistant.
It's literally an assistance. Yeah, it does it all. Yeah.
Like I think I'm a pretty good writer, but I
am challenged by it. My process is not efficient. Yeah,
it takes I have I have, you know, essentially days
of rumination before things come out in sentences. Yeah, but

(30:55):
you can get it to spark yeah, exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Yeah, you can literally start with that and then even
if you don't use it, you could read it and
it could spark your own shit.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yeah, and I don't know. I mean I've I've always
been someone that needed to put a little bit down
on paper and then print it out for some reason
because it just like touch it or whatever, mark it up,
and then go back and start, you know, working on it.
But this is something that like it didn't there's a
little bit of a of a space filler, you know
what I mean. It's a little bit of a specification

(31:25):
that I didn't want to bother like creating from scratch,
and it was just fucking easy.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Doesn't ever seem to get besides like stealing jobs, which
where yet to like really see the outcome. It doesn't
really get like negative press in like the professional world.
It only gets like negative stuff when you talk about
like cheating in school. Yeah, it was kind of like
the New Age. When I was in high school was
a Wikipedia that was like the devil. Yeah, like every

(31:51):
teachers like don't look at Wikipedia. You're not allowed to
use that, like you can Google. Like it was my generation,
like and probably a very tight generation that can relate
where where like our essays had to be like one
online in like three bucks. Like that was like part
of the rules of a research or of a footnote
or whatever. Where now you could probably assume footnote a
ton of shit online website. Yeah, and the teachers aren't

(32:13):
getting pissed, but back then because they were still like
some of the teachers probably didn't even use the fucking internet.
You know, they're like real if he we're talking like
two thousand and.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Three, but they don't watch TV so supposedly, yeah, oh Waldorf. Yeah, uh,
some of the teachers do high schools a little different,
but lower school day for sure.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
I don't think they do. A lot of my friends
didn't have TVs. Majority of my friends. Yeah, I didn't
have TVs growing up, or if they did, it was
like movies only movies only.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
That's kind of cool though, Yeah I could.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
And maybe they were onto something iPad kids, maybe they're
fucking onto something.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Yeah, that was there.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
That's like the deep philosophy from like the fucking thirties
is that like you're supposed to handle like a beginning,
a middle, and an end, like you're supposed to handle
a story, and TVs aren't stories. TVs are like blips
of nothing. And now imagine talk. If Rudolph Steiner was alive,
he would not be happy.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
I'm getting this woman's ass. I know who it is.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
I can't get rid of this. How make this stop?

Speaker 1 (33:11):
I'm glad I'm not attached to that thing. Who knows
would be? It's somebody we know.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
So you got Sebo's blushing. He didn't know what was
happening either. You've got to look away. He just made
the sign of the cross over there.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
It's literally the ax of somebody, you know. So, so
there we go. Uh, this is the thing Diddy. Yeah,
loses one hundred million dollars default judgment to his ex.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
No.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
No, this is a man accused Diddy of sexually assaulting
him one hundred million dollars. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Now, this is just the beginning.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Derek Lee Cardello Smith.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
Maybe an assistant or something. No, the Diddy stories run deep.
They just crazy.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
I feel like there's going to be a lot. I
feel like you just fell off.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
The I think they're just probably doing real research. Now
now they're just grabbed a ship. Yea, they're probably doing
real court case.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Shit.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
No, it seems like he was.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Quite the predator. According to the Detroit Metro Times, Cardilos
Smith alleged that he was both drugged and sexually assaulted
by Combes at a party in Detroit in nineteen ninety seven,
just one claim a minute, amid a broader pattern of
alleged sexual abuse and other misconduct by three time Grammy winner,
also known as p Diddy, Puff Daddy and Love.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Well, that doesn't sound like love to me, Sean he
was loving for Sean Comb.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Yeah. Cardellos Smith, who is incarcerated, eventually sued over the
alleged attack, provided information showing Combe's name in a prison
visitation log. Had a primary seven August court here conducted virtually.
Cardilos Smith testified that Comes offered him two point three

(35:02):
million dollars to drop his lawsuit. Yeah, that's supposedly.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
I think what happened to the ex girlfriend and then
that tape resurface of her getting just fucking molly wop
dude's so bad in the hotel, and then I think
that lossuit's going on too. I think the hotel's getting
sued because I think Diddy's people paid them or whatever
to hide that video, and so I think I don't
know if it's Marry ot or who knows what the
fuck it was. But one of those companies I think
is getting sued too.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
What plain have testified that Comb was fifty four. I
didn't realize he was fifty four. Told him that he
would not acknowledge Cardelo Smith's claims in court, saying, you
know how we get down Cardella Smith? Take that? Take that?
Take that, well, I disagree with how you get down
and rejected.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
That's why he says that's p Didty's like ad lib.
That's like the bad joke his ad lib.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Take that. Take that, Take that, Oh that's his fucking
ad lib.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Bro, Yeah, pretty bad. That's pretty bad.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah, they call him mister take that.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
There's a fucking video.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
I don't know if I told it on the podcast.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
I think it's mac miller and someone else, like kind
of like artists on the side and they're in the studio.
It's like a vlog. It's not even part of anything big.
It's like a vlog and they're just chatting. It might
even be Frank Ocean and mc miller or something like
two like icons and they're joking about it like yeah, man,
we don't go to that mister take back party, Like
take that, take that no party for us, and they're
like choking back and forth, like yeah, even I think

(36:24):
there's like quotes and stuff from like I don't want
to obviously fucking the fame here and get it arrested.
But like how if it's like a Lebron or it's
one of some like big celebrities, Like yeah, we like
go to those parties, but once the clock hits like nine,
we leave, like we know what's about to happen, Like
we know the kind of party that's next, shit like that,
which is scary, Like people know, but like do they

(36:46):
really know, you know, like what's your responsibility there if
you don't really know because you don't want to stick
around to know, you know, like you can't play Batman
and go like do it either, you know, Yeah, you
just don't ask telling run. Yeah you can't play investigator
no yeah yeah, yeah, well of course you can't. But
but you can't you anything because yeah, you don't know
where you're gonna write exactly.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yeah. No, it's bad, No, it's really bad.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Yeah. I think it's a lot of.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Like gotta eat a lot of activated charcoal before you
get in there.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Yeah, I think it's a lot of like day rape,
drugs and ship like a lot of stuff like that,
like beyond satanic behaviors from mister Combs. Yeah, not just
like mini.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Power trips, not like a little bit of you know, manipulation.
Like No, I think the whole is bad.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
I think he's bad.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
I think maybe the biggest uh takeaway from this this guy.
You know, he's in jail and he's he's taught himself
criminal in civil law while he was incarcerated. Oh yeah,
he has a long history of challenging the judicial system
with lawsuits. This guy, uh did not Uh this is
a summary judgment, meaning that that that did he did

(37:54):
not show up in court for himself. So not there
you get it. Comes is not the only prominent defendant
named in one of those lawsuits. Another is a Roman
Archdiocese of Detroit, in a lawsuit diliging that two of
the organization's priests, as well as one of its lay employees,
sexually abused Cardella Smith between nineteen seventy nine when he

(38:17):
was about seven years old. In nineteen ninety three, won
a mess Jesus Christ, No wonder he's fucked up onto
some sadder news worse. Uh yeah, worse than that. We
were talking about this ahead of time. Yeah, why is
this not working now? There it is our old friend

(38:42):
Kim try And Kim Valentine passed away over the weekend
in an accident. We had her on the old show
a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
There we go, Oh, piercing eyes to watch yourself.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Playing? Is it not snow? Yeah? Sounds on someone it
is playing. She says, it's not playing, and it's playing.
Technology is biting me in the ass today. I'm not
sure how old she was. She might age she like
thirty five, thirty five?

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Yeah, yeah, Kim Valentine for I'm sure many of you
do know. But blonng time powerlifter friend of mine in
the shows, very very strong, very very cool chick pass
away on her motorshogle this weekend. So yeah, not all
ton to say for me, but very very sad, very

(39:38):
very sad. She's an NorCal chick. Used to come train
with us, cupped in touch with her over the years,
as as many of our friends did. Nadeem and a
lot of the Bay Area in NorCal, like o G
Powerlifting crew, We're pretty close.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
So it is sad. Sending the best to her and
her family. She competed in gear and and raw. I
want to say, I think just maybe once, but definitely
more of a sleeved and wrap scalp.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yeah. Yeah, held multiple records I think all time total
and squat like ninety seven, one fourteen, maybe even one
twenty four, squatted well into the four hundreds.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Yeah, very very strong, very very strong. It's a real bummer.
I you know, I've never had any great attraction to
riding a motorcycle. I feel uncomfortable. And we've had a
couple of sort of prominent scooter deaths here in Sacramento.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Yeah, one of my buddies got on a scooter here. Yeah,
I mean it's all you know, it's all crazy because
you hear the same thing driving, hear the same thing.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Yeah, you know, I don't know what the actual statistics.
I don't know if it's more dangerous. I know the
sacrament is terrible for car accidents, auto versus pedestrian, all
that stuff. And I'm not even sure why it's so bad.
People are terrible drivers. I think that's a big part
of it. But he's dodging every day. There was an
article in the paper a couple of weeks ago about

(41:04):
a guy who lost his dad to uh auto versus
pedestrian on kind of a complicated, dangerous intersection that he
was crossing. And this guy went to a lot of
trouble to research roundabouts and yeah to slow. Roundabouts are

(41:28):
generally safer, and they they actually, yeah, they slow traffic,
but traffic actually moved faster through them.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Yes. Now, yeah, slowing traffic in terms of like making
less traffic great.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Yeah, now that that same fucking intersection I was talking
about Watt and fair Oaks right by the freeway before
they redid that intersection, which is different the construction I
was talking about. I think it was top five deadliest
corners of the nation for years. For years, people just
go flying because there are two roads in are coming
that are like a six lane roads, so everyone's hauling

(42:02):
us in every direction. Yeah, it was one of the
craziest intersections for a very long time. Then they added
you know, multiple stop lights and cameras and that slowly
started chill people out.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Well, this guy brought his roundabout research to the city
and the city blew them off here in Zact.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Yeah, there's quite a few in Vegas actually, at least
in my neighborhood.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Yeah, I mean they I got used to them in
we went to Ireland a few years ago. There's a
lot there, a whole lot like you know, how are
initially like in the fifties, are our big highways were
supposed to be built so that they would run outside
of big cities instead of inside of big cities or

(42:42):
a few big cities on the borders at least. Yeah,
And that's kind of more the way it works there.
And you come off of you come off of that,
you know, one of the m's, and you go into
a you know, an initial roundabout, and if you're still
going in a particular direction and there's another other connection,

(43:03):
you might go right into another one. Yeah, and then
you then you go out into the town.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
What's what they even say about the Autobahn. I think, like,
I don't know the data exactly, but I'm pretty sure
accidents are far and few between. But they're driving faster
than any other.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Yeah, it's like if you're getting an accent, really fucked.
But but the chances of getting any accident are actually
lover probably even though you're going very very fast. What
else we got, Well, that's back to the sixteen seasons,

(43:39):
m M movies.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
I got nothing, still haven't been any nothing.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
Uh. I am getting mixed reviews on the new Beetlejuice.
I haven't even seen the first one to be on really.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
I know what it is, and I've probably seen parts
on TV, but I've never really been into anything like that,
Like was the Nightmare Before Christmas?

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Anything kind of gholi. It's never really all the Tim
Burton stuff.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Yeah, yeah, there's probably some Tim Burton I like, I
can't think of it, but is Tim Burton also Beal Juice? Yeah,
oh that makes sense. Yeah, any of that Beetlejuice eighty nine, Batman, Yeah,
I've probably seen that one.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Batman Returns.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Yeah, I've seen that, but I like Batman. Yeah, just
kind of like the fake spooky, not spooky but funny,
but it's not that funny Night before Christmas? Yeah, people
love night Member like my generation.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Yeah, like a cold following.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
Yeah, I don't know if I've seen that whole thing either.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
I've never seen it, to be honest.

Speaker 2 (44:46):
Yeah, I think I've seen parts when it's on TV,
but like visually it's kind of whatever. And then again
like just kind of ghostly things just not really like
my vibe.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Casper.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
I'll watch a funny Casper, but that's like purposely funny.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
You're talking about the live action Casper. You have old
school all of them cartoons. I'm both Okay, I'd rather
watch that.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Yeah, I love like Halloween season, but I'm not like
a Halloween guy.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
The weird thing about Casper is like it's tragic. Yeah
it is.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
This is a kid that died and now he's all
cute and happy.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Yeah, like we just that's lost somehow in the process.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yeah. I think I've seen both, like the early Disney
Channel live action and the old school cartoons with those,
but yeah, halloweeny things just never really called to me.
Coco Fire, You give me a Cocoa. That's probably the
only ghostly Yeah, it's just so good Coco Cocoa.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Yeah, I don't know if I've seen Coco. I think
maybe the last one of those I saw was in Conto.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
I was gonna says, Okay, it's kind of like, yeah,
it's like that Walmart version Coco. So Gil gets yourself, Yeah,
that eighty five inch TV and watch Cocine.

Speaker 1 (45:53):
I like cow Siaba said it better than we did.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
But they go, they go, Yeah, I got it.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
What do you think I'm fake? I'm not saying you're fake.
We'll go bar for Barn.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
How you been learning from your mom? Or no, no,
that'll be the perfect time.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
I forgot who what were we saying? Oh?

Speaker 2 (46:12):
G O G always makes funny because I'll say it
in English on purpose. Whatever we're talking about right right,
we were talking about so we were talking about. Taika's
super into sports right now, and so he'll just whip
out out and now like, all right, named three soccer
players and like we all got to go in a row,
name three soccer players you know, and Barn Geo don't
know shit, so like I don't know back them or something.
And so I'm whipping out and I'll say, like, diego Monadona,

(46:34):
and G was like, huh, I say diego Maddonna. Yeah,
like I can fucking say it. I just don't say it.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Yeah, yeah, I think just having lived in California, you
pick up yeah, simple amount of it. Yeah somewhere. But
my dad spoke farm worker Spanish. Yeah, because he was
a mechanic and farmers all the time. Yeah, English Spanlish,
for sure. It was all Spanish. It tasted pronunciation was awful,
but they understood it well enough.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
That's all that matters.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Yeah, it's all that matters. All that matters.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Yeah, Fall season has good movies. Though it's Harry Potter season,
it's Coco season.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
I just watched a bunch of Harry Potter. It's so good. Yeah,
I mean, yeah it is. Why is it so good?

Speaker 2 (47:13):
I don't know? And they they crushed it.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
As I was saying earlier though, too, I had the
first Lord of the Rings movie just start on me,
and so I ended up fucking watching half of it.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
You turn those bonus hours on or whatever. I didn't
watch the extendo that's five hours. I think.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
I did not watch the extended one of the first
and second one, but I did watch the extended of
those are good too, Man of Return to the King.
But the crazy thing that I noticed now, and SeaBASS
may or may not get this now, is that I
don't know if it's because they were the theatrical versions
and not the extended or whatever, but there were a
lot of bad cuts in those first two movies, really

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really bad ones.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
I probably go to the extended probably it fixes some
of that and it just moves it over.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Yeah, I mean I mean there were under something of
a time crunch and stuff, budgets budgets to get to
get the editing done. But you can you can just tell.
I mean, normally, when they shoot a bunch of coverage,
you can get from one camera angle to another during
conversation and it's smooth. But this, oh my god, No,

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it's like like the framing is so different between them,
and you can just tell it's a different take. It's
so oh my god. And and those are good movies,
but that's that's a pretty significant flaw. And the special
effects get less and less good over time.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Sure, well now we're talking thirty years. Yeah, you know, yeah,
like the first come a long way, maybe the second
one came out. I was in like seventh grade. Yeah,
you know, Samuel Harry Potter. You go back and watch
the very first Harry Pottery, like what the fuck is
this from the sixties, Like it's crazy, And then.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
You watch you know, six seven eight.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
They're a little more with but to get so depressing
after they do get dark.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
That's kind of the part. I like that from the
end of Gobblet of Fire end and it's there's like
very little.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Lightness they're making a show too right on HBO.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
Yeah, they're redoing the whole thing. Yeah, the whole whole thing.
I don't know if I stand with that. I don't
know if they need that. Yeah, I thought those were
kind of fairly definitive portrayals.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
One of her tweets just popped up non political. She
says she's writing like crazy right now.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
That was her tweet. She's like, dude, my brain's on fire,
Like I gotta go sleep just so I can get
back to writing.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
Well, I hope what she's writing at Cebe strike is
those are really good?

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Is that her?

Speaker 1 (49:48):
Yeah? I do nothing. Yeah, they were written under another name.
But it's like it's a detective series set in them, Dion,
They've made they got muggles in there. There's no magic,
damn it, no magic. It's all just like, yeah, it's
a private detective, but with a real complicated backstory on

(50:11):
the Wands, like one of his parents was a big celebrity,
big rich celebrity in this world. Yeah. Yeah, uh, it's
it's very very good, super gritty. I don't know. Fun. Oh,
I know where I wanted to add this up.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
This.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
I think we may have talked about this before, but
I think that because tastes and availability of things change
over time, that is worth talking about. What our favorite
guilty pleasure fast food thing is.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Are we defined fast food by drive through or just
like cheap shit?

Speaker 1 (50:57):
I must say drive through?

Speaker 2 (50:58):
All right. My latest addiction it's probably canes, oh really,
And it's a little bit controversial. I feel like I
feel like canes in and out too, all of them
for some reason, becomes so bipartisan as well, right, Like
people like love and they're getting the in and out
hat or they're like in and out's overrated. I feel
like canes is kind of like that too. But there's

(51:19):
nothing I'm that passionate about. Like I'm very neutral.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Canes is natural hot chicken, yeah yeah, and natural Korean.
It's natural.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Now. A lot of people say the chicken is a
little underspiced, and I may agree, but like what makes
it like everywhere else is like their sauce, right, it's
the same as Chick fil A. And then they're a
little bread on the side and their fries are solid
and it's still like affordable ish. That might be my
go to right now. Yeah, fried chicken. It's just hard

(51:53):
to beat Man, because there's other ones that are more
like fast casual, like a Chipotle style, like Dave's, Dave's
Hot Chickens kind of like that. And then there's a
I think it's called Texas Hot Chicken. I mean, there's
a million of them, but all those are kind of
my vibe at the moment.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
This is not one of my this is not my
guilty pleasure, but I will it's this thing I will
say is that, uh, Popeyes, shit's all over KFC.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
KFC is pretty bad. Now, Yeah, KFC's pretty bad, especially
in sac It's a lot of places, but sack went
through like a chicken revolution, and we have about six
places that.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Are really good.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
It's like Daves, No Leaven like local, local, boxed, Sackville
Hot Boys, Van's is Yeah, Korean really insane, fire Wings
Korean really insane.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Like, we have like six options that are so good,
and yeah, KFC just is like down. I haven't had
Papa's in a long time, but I think I've had
their tenders that are pretty good.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
It's a little bit stereotypical, but when we were we
spent ten days in Harlem earlier this summer, and one
of the NICs. We just got Popeye's so good chicken
sandwich or just an actual you're like a bucket of chicken. Yeah,
I was just a bucket of chick I had the
chicken sandwich When to drop? Was that COVID? Yeah? I
think it was that, And there was lines everywhere. I

(53:11):
had that with Kyle.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
That was pretty good. We delivered it to Dan at work,
he was at at and T stuff. Yeah, it's a
while back ago. Yeah, Yeah, it's just I mean, papay
sandwich is pretty good, perfectly cooked perfectly.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
That's kind of like canes. Canes is consistent.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Yeah, you know, you know what you're gonna get, and
that's what makes in and out right is the best
berg you've ever had, Probably not, but like it.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
For the price, it's very consistent. It's good, like kind
of always tastes the same.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Yeah, and that's kind of all you can ask for. Yeah,
you know, if it's not too expensive. Someone is a
subway subway just trying to bring back the foot long stuff. Yeah,
like six ninety nine versus three nine nine, because they're
like quarterlyes were like the worst worst, they're about to die,
and so they're like, oh, we'll bring back a foot long.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
It's still seven bucks.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Versus like four bucks food.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
It's so bad. They might be the worst.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
I'm not KFC and Subway might be the two because
like some with KFC, like it's so like liquidy, Like
it's like, you know, like people talk ship on McDonald's.
It's like, that's not chicken. I'm like, bro, it's way
more chicken than KFC. KFC's is crazy. KFC used to
be good at least as Oh. Yeah, I used to
eat as a kid too. Yeah, what's yours gym? What's

(54:20):
your actual one?

Speaker 1 (54:21):
I was gonna get seat.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
I was gonna say in and out. But honestly, I
don't know if this accounts Costco the Costco food court.
We'll take it. Yeah, cheap, but I think chicken dog nah,
the hot dog, hot dog, the hot dog, see okay,
hot dogs.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
I Keia hot dog versus Costco hot dog.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
I'm an Ikea meatball guy.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Meat balls. Yeah, I've been craving spaghetti lately for some reason. Yeah,
it's good. I'm one Costco Costco. Yeah, it's hard to
argue with it. The Costco pizza is what it is, and.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
The price the price, the prices if you take all
that into account, cost might be the number one in
the world. Yeah, Amurai Kiah, because I think Ikia is
still cheap.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
It's a buck I think fifty. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Costco is a buck fifty. That's pretty good because it
wasn't it this year? In and Out's like, yeah, we
got a rice prices like ten years I.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
Went up like maybe for a double double dollar and
Costco won't. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Chick fil A is delicious but expensive. The chicole is
consistent expensive. Costco Sunday.

Speaker 1 (55:22):
Yeah, it is a strawberry vanilla.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Yeah. Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Costco is actually starting to check whether you're a member
to get food now, and they didn't used to. You
could just roll up.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Yeah, because especially some of them are outside the snack bars. Yeah,
Costco is good. It is good. The other one is
was Arizona iced Tea. That dude's done multiple articles. I
own my factories. Everything stabilized, Like.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Why am I going to raise prices? Which is kind
of cool of them.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Yeah, I mean he is rich.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
I usually just saw story with the guy who bought
Lesser Evil. It's a pop corn company and then they
branched out into some other stuff.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
So it's like.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
I think they have regular popped stuff, but they pop
it in coconut oil and they have they have airpop too,
so it's like even lower calorie. They've got deals with
some of the big distributors now. But when he he
bought it for two hundred and fifty thousand dollars because

(56:26):
he was he was a trader, he was a stock trader,
and he just got burned out on that, and so
he bought this failing company and turned it around last
year one hundred and three million. This year on track
one hundred and sixty five million and grosser revenue. That's good.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Yeah, yeah, that was gonna be my cheat meal or
my guilty pleasures. I've been ordering popcorn popcorn movie popp
You've ordering popcorn for it, but that's for late three months,
non movie popcorns.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
It lily popcorn. I can, I can take your leave,
to be honest with you, because I don't like the
butter so buts even butter so.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
I go no butter because it's only like because I'm
not trying to eat like fucking five thousand calories popcorn
just to eat a thousand, and then it's like not
that unhealthy. You go that or like Boom Chicka pop
boom chicken pops.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
There's something about fresh popcorn.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Yeah, fresh popcorn is always better.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
My wife is like, I do to understand. Cold popcorn
doesn't appeal to me at all. It's like, well, clearly
you don't like popcorn in the same round like popcorn,
because I will. I will devour a giant bag of
skinny pop if you will not be skinny. If somebody
just gives me.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
That, y'a, I'll do both. Yeah, I'm not that's.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Picky, so uh yeah. My my current guilty pleasure is
the beef and cheese at Arby's. Kyle's a big Arby's
gut and they asked me if I want sauce. It's
like it's dripping with aju. Why would I need sauce?

Speaker 2 (58:00):
God on it. Yeah, it's highly underrated.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
It's like so many folks that I took him for
the frame. It wasn't bad. It wasn't bad at all.
It's like it's almost like Queso on it.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Yeah, oh my god. Even just their regular beef. It's
literally bread and beef, and it's like and one of
the better things that fast food does.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
It's it's roast beef sliced so thin you could read
through it, and yet it tastes delicious.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Their fries are solid. Even there are other stuff you
expand into the chicken sandwich and stuff is.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
Solid, solid, or I haven't done it lately.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Yeah, it's solid, Like compared to where everyone else's quality
is gone backwards, their qualities at least stayed the same. Yeah,
because Arby's was a big thing when I was a
kid because it was fucking ninety eight cents or something,
and I ate like crazy. So we go get like
five of them bitches and throw back some roast beef. Yeah,
without cheese, you probably need a little sauce.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
You know, the little vinegar barbecue deal. But with the
cheese was you don't need any of that. You have
money on your Army's good those have it.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Haven't tried it because everyone it's like an online meme
that it's a laundering company, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Because you're like, I've never seen that. I've never seen
anyone there. I've never been there.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
But for all you fucking kiddos, I've never been there.
You're missing out. It's one of it's I'm not gonna say,
it's like as good as in and out or something.
But arbage is really good. It might be top five
when you talk about consistency.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
Price, and taste, I can't agree on that point.

Speaker 2 (59:14):
Yeah, it's good, yeah, because everyone else really has gone worse,
Like Burger Kings Burgers tastes so bash.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
Burger Burgers are like kind of hot, hot garbage.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Yeah, and McDonald's burgers are like, you know, the garbage
you're getting and you still like it.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
They're stupid and they're tiny. Yeah, but I think the
worst defender in that category is Taco Bell.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
Taco stuff is awful well, and they've like tripled their price.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
Yeah, it's awful and we still eat it. No, Taco
Bell was good. I'm not enjoying eating it. I'm not
enjoying this at all. I'm purely eating this for sustenance.
I had no reason to eat this.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
I do like their fake Mexican, but it was only
because it was dirt cheap. Again, you get like eight
items and it's like five bucks, you're like yeah fuck yeah.
But now if you do that and it's twenty bucks.
They do have like that bucks, the Fight Dollar Bucks. Yeah,
the double Decker was the secret. Nothing I got reckon
It's like a bean and cheese burrito wrapped around a taco.

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What's the what's the curdunkling or whatever they do like duck. Yeah,
it was like a Mexican tur Duckan'll get more American
than that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
You know what you're ducking? I've heard of it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Yeah, it was like a turkey and a chicken, and
then like a fucking pheasant'side that, and then you just
keep going down.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Eventually there's a worm humming bird. Yeah, yeah, just gets.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Smaller and smaller. Pokemon freak choose in there. That's what
a fucking double decker was. Dude. It was just every
Mexican wrapped and it was good though.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
It was really good.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Yeah, I have seen the speaking of Taco bell we
probably gotta try is the Baja blast gelato. I don't
know why Mexicans are selling gelato all of a sudden,
but y'all what you mean? I mean you could just
be ice cream. You had to fucking steal my culture
on take a little bit Baja blast gelado.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
That's not even Mexicans.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
That's what I'm saying that I just last Chaco bell
is off fans.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
We're talking about last with my mother in law brought
to a family dinner, brought Churo ice cream.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Yeah, good, was way too good. I had a Crumble
cookie and they had a true flavor. Crumble is probably
overrated as well. It's good.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
I've seen a lot of hate on it. Yeah, a
lot of.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
People are hate because people want to be hipsters, you know,
but the truth is for the price, you're like, eh,
you're not wrong. The same people that were loving it
back then, I'm now hating on it. Where again the
cookie at fucking Costco. It's like ninety eight cents and
it's good and it probably bangs.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Yeah, it's good.

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