Can a vegan powerlifter be really strong? | Nick Squires aka Meaty McSorley - 50% Facts with Silent Mike & Jim McD

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Pretty good. Probably a little closercloser. Yeah, don't be afraid.
It won't bit intimidating. It won'tbite you or give you a disease as
far as I know. It's tooclose to my mouth. No, no,
no promises. It was Santaaz lastyear. It's fine. Can you
get a disease to a mic?Probably right, bird flu? Oh,

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don't mention that, please. News. Yeah, everything's in the damn news.
The question of the day, theonly reason you're here. Okay,
leave after this, Yeah, okay. I saw a movie, all right,
and it said if I eat aveggie burrito that my dick is harder
and bigger. Is that true?Based on my own personal experience, It's
not true? God damne, howdarre does Netflix lie to me? Yeah?

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It's uh, it's bad right like, And it's it's something that comes
up all the time. Is alot of these miracle health claims about it,
and it's it's never something that I'vebeen interested in or you know,
any contribution to it to why Idon't eat I don't eat meat, but
it's definitely prevalent, and you knowI don't. I don't think it's long

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term. I think it's a badidea. You know, you tell people
stuff like that and they might believeit, and then a couple of years
down the line doesn't pan out forthem and they feel like, oh well,
if that's not true, everything Elsey'resaying about veganism isn't true. And
you know, I don't think it'sa I don't think it's a good idea
long term. Yeah, I wonderif they actually had because clearly you've known
the movie I'm talking about, wasit Game Changers or something? Yeah,

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the Game Changers, And like,clearly everyone's got an agenda on any movie
they like. Most ninety nine percentof documentaries aren't because people are interested in
shit. They have an agenda somewhere, Yeah, which clearly shows in that
movie if you know anything about nutritionor health and fitness, which I agree
does suck. But I wonder whatlike the real agenda is, or like
the meetings that go down there,like all right, we need to grab
because it's all all business goes.We need to get more boys age fifteen

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to twenty five to stop eating steak. Right, let's tell them their cocks
are gonna you know, throw aboutwith one fucking bean and cheese that's all
it takes. It's just so weird. Yeah, all right, let's grab
a very athletic black man from theNFL and say he's vegan and put them
all over this fucking movie. Yeah, it's it is, unfortunately, because
it's like the nuance there is,like, yeah, you can do whatever

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you need to do on a vegandiet, but there's no need to like
oversell it, overhype it, andthey get what they're going for. I
mean, those those kind of thingssomeone hears, they're like, oh,
well, that's insecurity that they're they'reworried about, and they want to they
want to quick fix for that.Yeah. The other side's doing the same
thing or worse too. Right,you go to the other side with carnivore
and that's fixing every disease under theplanet and making your skin glow. And

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you know, yeah, people alwayswant me like fairies. They see some
carnivore claim and they want me tolike respond to it or talk about It's
like, I don't give a shit, Yeah, like that's not why I'm
vegan. They don't. They don'tgive a shit either, because you're constipated.
Hey, truth is true. Iwill say that that's that's a benefit.
I'm in and out. You probablygot a good amount of fiber.
Happy, Oh plenty of feb Youdon't got You don't gotta go to in

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and out to be in and out. That's what you're saying. Any animal
products, not for eleven years nowat all. No, no dairy,
no nothing, No no gelatin egg. Yeah, gelatin. That's the sneaky
bitch. Uh there's Oh yeah.I went to like the store of the
day and I got like a thingof planners salted peanut. Nope, you're
fucked. And I'm like, waita second. Gelatin in this is to
make the salt stick to the peanuta little bit better. But yeah,

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you gotta be careful. I brokeit to a seven year old the other
day. What's in gelatin? Yeahit's gross. No, I remember hearing
that as a kid. You know, kids would always talk about mountain dew
making my dick smaller because of redyellow twelve theme here is there? Yeah.
Yeah, my whole life's around growingmy dead. It's any habit I
could have. It's the morning,would hour and then and then the morning.
You're about my age. You don'tremember, like like my whole soccer

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team swear in like fifth grade,they're all like, dude, we can't
drink no more Gatorator Mountain dew,like make sure dick small yellow number five
Yeah yeah, and we're like,fuck, do you nothing yellow? Can't
drink anything yellow? Yeah, We'refucked. At the same age, you're
like, dude, don't eat skittles. It's horse. And it turns out
it wasn't the dick thing. Itwas Bam. Now you all have ADHD
Yeah, probably true, Yeah,probably true. We should take a second

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and introduce you. This is Nickrelate tell us just like you give us
the capsule summary. I'm Nick youlip weights, Yeah, I am here
in Sacramento, California. I ama powerlifter in a number of random federations

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currently and I am moving up tothe one ten kilo class this summer and
see what we can do there.Nice extra broccoli. Yeah, just sober
one knows right. So in thisin this building last week I had I
brought in my friend Michael Fahey,who directed U Westside Versus the World,

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but he also was the editor ofForksover Knives, one of the like turning
points of vegan documentary Ish I don'tknow why programming stick of my brain.
Like, I know, it wasa big deal. I know I watched
it. But behind the scenes,some of which seabask got goes to Mike's

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question a little bit. Uh,the the behind the scenes production was a
was a mess. It was areally mess. It was very it was
very agenda driven. Its very youknow, cherry pick results or whatever.
But like people who were involved init kind of kept checking out along the
way, including the director. Andpart of the deal was that they had,

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you know, all all of thesehours of interviews that they did,
and he couldn't deal with them unlessthey were transferred to text, so that
they literally had to be transcribed.And this was a long enough ago there
was no automatic process for them.He couldn't deal with them because his brain

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couldn't. Yeah, well that wasthe thought, you know, he didn't
like to deal with it. Yeah, yeah, that's a little different.
Yeah. And after the movie wassuccess, they started taking those interviews and
publishing them as books in which theymade money off of. And there's there's

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a whole industry around that movie still. And whether they intended to make money
at the outset, they sure have. In the long run, And I
mean that's how how that stuff kindof gets made. I mean it's done
either as obviously just kind of alabor of love thing on a low budget,

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or you try to pull in enoughpeople that you will you will make
money. I'm sure that there's probablysome Carnivor thing out there the same kind
of deal. It's not so muchabout the ideology in the in mass media
is it is about will it doesit have legs swimming money. I'm kind

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of surprise that Carnivore hasn't done likea documentary that I know of. Yeah,
it's called no Ship, like abig one. I got big fucking
what's his name, doctor whatever,Sean Baker shun Bakern. Yeah, they're
they're all doctors, bost thinking theyal wactors. The one in Puerto Rico.
Oh, that guy's not even thecarnival anymore though. No. Yeah,

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I think he got sick, yeah, which is neither here nor there
because then everyone points a finger too, but then like you could also just
get sick. Yeah. I thinkthe big difference there is that there,
while it is heavily cherry picked inthese documentaries, there is data about reducing
animal products in your diet that probablyis good for you in the long run.
I don't know that the data isthere, or maybe it has hasn't

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been studied yet for the carnivore diet, but I think there's something to go
off of, yeah, for thevegan stuff, And I don't know there's
a lot to go off on carnivalfor except for you know, short term
you know, anecdotes pretty much.Yeah, Yeah, I think that this
is what I hear from listening toLane Norton. I think that there's initial
benefit to blood work for people whogo keto or go carnivore, and then

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it flips around and it's and ittypically gets worse any diet, any diet,
I don't care what it is.If you take someone eating a normal
diet that we're all eating and youall of a sudden start paying very close
attention to what you're eating, ofcourse you're gonna get healthier. Yeah,
it doesn't matter what it is,because there's so much shit that you're eating,
you're not even thinking about it,and all of a sudden, you're
eating anything that's uh doesn't have tobe whole food with plant bas's anything that's

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closer to unprocessed, untreated and stuff, and you're paying very clo attention what
you're putting your body. You're gonnaget healthier. But that's healthier long term.
I can't speak to that, butit's going to you're going to see
a benefit from it. All ofa sudden. You're paying you're tracking your
calories for the first time, andyou're losing weight. You're like, oh,
it's because i'm doing this that.No, it's not. Because you're
for the first time in your life. If you're tracking calories, you're paying
attention to the way you're eating.Yeah, and you're thinking benefit that's fine.

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Yeah, the deficit itself does mostof the work. I'd put money
down that in the world mostly agreesthat McDonald's is like not good for you
or whatever. Now right, like, it's probably not the best probably the
most processed shit you can find.I bet you if we take someone even
just like twenty twenty five percent bodyfat, fairly unhealthy and we throw them
on nuggets, but in a deficit, we probably show some positive blood work

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in like three to six months.Yeah, and then yeah, five years,
probably not looking great, but itmight too, you know, because
like a deficit really is like kindof a curer of many, many things.
Not to say that quality of fooddoesn't matter, because obviously it does.
You need like absorption and uptake ofvitamins and minerals, fiber seemingly helps
them in at least colon cancer andcomfort. Like, there is a lot

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of things that play a role.But you could argue the role is just
as big a genetics. Right,someone can eat fucking Mediterranean perfectly whatever the
shit diet for thirty years and stillend up with cancer too, you know,
so like to me, a lotof it does end up still like
majoring in the minors, you know, like let's try to eat kind of
good, let's move our bodies,let's sleep pretty good, and then like

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what's everything fucking else that you're fuckingup? You know, Like are you
ripping cigarettes in a computer vape allday? Are you not like sleeping,
are you you know you stressed outof your brains? Are you just walking
around angry all the time? Likeall those things are probably gonna play a
bigger role then you grabbing a fuckingsnickers out the door every day. There's
a professor that did a twinkie dietand he put himself in a correct deficit

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on twinkies and he lost weight andsaw improved markers in the short term.
Yeah, I think there was anAustralian chick that did that, And I
don't know if she died or somethingbad happened. I think I think she
was like a YouTuber type. Iforgot because everyone points to that too,
you know, kind of like thiscarnivore cat who just got sick and stopped
doing carnivore, Like he's going tobe the pinata for every anti carnivore argument

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ever. And I'm not pro carnivoreby any means, but I'm also understand
like an equals one, like that'snot really talk by antidote, like that's
one dude. You know, it'sjust ironic as shit, right, and
so it makes them look stupid.But so the health reasons are the things
that they drove you to it,or the ethical part or some combination of
the two, or one hundred percentethical. You know. I've always ate

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like shit. I continue to eatlike shit, you know, It's why
I got into power lifting in thefirst place. I'm like, oh,
you can there's a sport I cando where I'm encouraged to eat like shit,
like sign me up, right,Like it was one hundred percent ethical,
you know, and it's a youknow, I was vegetarian when I
was a kid. I stopped inhigh school and you know, went nuts
and and it came back to itprimarily from I was doing dog rescue,

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you know. We were fostering andrehoming and rehabilitating pit bulls and other bully
breeds, you know. And Ihad kind of this moment where I'm sitting
there and I'm like, dude,i just spend all day, my money,
my time helping these dogs, andnow I'm sitting down, I'm eating
a steak, right, and I'mlike, there's a disconnect there, and
why is this animal desert of meputting so much effort into helping and this
one I don't give a shit about, right, And So that was kind

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of a moment for me that Irealized, like, I'm not comfortable with
doing that anymore. And it startedlike a year long kind of chain event
where I just started cutting animal productsout of my life. And I had
just had a kid. You know, there was a big change in my
psyche at that moment where I'm likeI need to stay alive now, right,
Like there was no I didn't reallybefore that. It's like I could

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take it or leave it right,I'm here on my here, I don't
care. All of a sudden,I'm like, I need to see this
kid, you know, grow up, graduate high school, go to college,
all this stuff. And so that'saround the time that I started working
out. It's around the time thatI went vegan, It's around the time
that I stopped drinking. And itwas just sort of a catalyst for for
all that in my life. Andyou know, the health. I understand
that there's potential health benefits. Iunderstand there's potential or there's definitely environmental benefits.

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There's no way around that. Butit's not that's not where I'm coming
from. It's just I don't Idon't want to contribute to animal agriculture at
this point and found a way todo it. Like there there are a
couple of vegetarians in my wife's family, and but my observation there they don't
listen, So I'm okay, isthat they're just it's not that they're vegetarians,

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it's that they're not meditarians, ifthat makes sense. That's a lot
of people. Right, then they'rea pescatarian. Then they're chicken only octolovo
Yeah yeah, yeah, and that'sall fine. What do I give a
shit? But like some of it, yeah, it's just like identity tied.
Yeah, or well in her family, they're just sort of carbetarians.
They just yeah yeah, yeah,yeah, the postetarian, yeah, postetarian.

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Yeah, just like it's not likethey're focusing on eating vegetables as they're
focusing on not eating meat. Yeah. I don't need a ton of vegetables,
you know, Yeah, it's likea regular dinner. Look like it
is a lot of pasta. It'sa lot of fakeosthetarians. Yeah. I
mean it's like I probably have morein common with a lot of the carnivore
people than they'd like to admit,because if I don't need a lot of

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vegetables more than I used to.But like a typical day is like oatmeal
with a scoop of protein powder.What's the protein soy or what's the what's
the key right now? Like what'sthe cricket take? Oh that's an animal,
right, I don't know, becausethat's the argument that it's not well
because they go by cells or brainor some animal shit that I don't know.

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Yeah, like the definition of sentienceis is difficult for me. I'm
an idiot. It's it's moving around, it's alive. I'm not gonna eat
it that because that's a big thingabout oysters and stuff like that. And
it's like, yeah, yeah,people get into very specific technical definitions of
like being able to feel pain.I'm like, it's an animal. It's
very easy for me not to eatit. Move on. I don't want

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to ridicule you. But there arequestions, because these are real questions.
So there's a lot of believers nowalso that like the mushroom network and shit
like that, being on the edgeACENTI And I don't know if you've read
or heard any exact yeah, oreven just all plants in general, like
the vibrations they have and like howcertain of them act. And then I'm

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like, all right, well thenlike fuck man, Like some people are
talking about mushrooms being smarter than animals. Yeah, I've heard it. You
know, I know that there's alot of like all plants feel pain kind
of stuff out there, but youknow, in talking to botanists, they
talk about the specific characteristics that feelpain, noisecepters, and how plants lack
them. And so while let's saythat, you know, let's say that

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I cut a plant. It maybe aware because of more like a pressure
feeling, but it doesn't have theability to interpret pain. Sure, And
so if everything, if everything's aliveand everything setient, sentient, then it
comes down to what's the least amountof harm. And I've seen an animal
die, Yeah, I know whatthat looks like. I know that that

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animal is experiencing a lot of painand trauma. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I've also picked a fucking apple,right right, Like, I think
that's the argument with the cricket,you know, is that it's somewhere in
between there. Yeah, But forme, like what's the benefit? How
much? How much am I gettingout of cricket protein versus a pea protein
or a slight protein. Say youget real jack, bro, I don't
know, cricket jacked? Yeah,I don't know. You can jump real
fucking fire, yeah, I don'tknow. I remember that first started like

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really popping out in like twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen. I was getting like
sponsorship offers left and right, andat that time, even like protein itself
didn't even taste good. I meanit's still I don't like it much,
but like protein bars have advanced andsome are pretty yummy, and like the
regular protein bar like quest was justcoming out and they're like, oh,
that's pretty good. I'm like,there's no way that this cricket bar is

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gonna be yummy, right, youknow, So like me who does eat
meat, Like, where the fuckis my argument here? And so then
they they want on some marketing stuffsimilar to the vegie breed don't making your
cockpig like, they're just like cricketprotein's more absorbable and it packs more per
cricket than steak. I'm like,yeah, but I'm not eating a cricket.
You know. They just start likestretching marketing to do to like win

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any way they can with the chancesare it's probably just very cheap for them.
Yeah. If you're in the Southright now, cicado protein, yeah,
I think everywhere. That's so scary. Cicadas man, the thirteen and
seventeen year broods. Yeah, emergingat the same time, like last week,
Yeah, screaming, I get it. Yeah, what is Arizona,
New Mexico? I think get ahuge I think Vegas gets a little bit.

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I'm not. Yeah, when Ilived in Vegas, we had it
there. Yeah, that's scary something. Even the crickets I'll just find in
the garage's fucking yeah. Youcome home in Vegas in the summer,
there's like just a wall of cockroaches. They're giant, giant, but not
many mosquitoes, so you kind ofwin there. There's no water, yeah,
thank goodness. They don't like todry well. Sacramento is getting,

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like, speaking of cockroaches, morecockroaches than it's like probably ever had because
it's so much hotter in the inthe h in the summer, and so
they're in your house looking for water. Yeah, that's the primary thing.
So based on the timeline that youjust gave us here, you don't really
have experience lifting while you were anomnivore. You primarily we were tapering off

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of animal proteins. Yeah. Itwas about six months. And I mean,
like I did the whole thing,my whole life, where like I
bought into the fitness industry like getfit quick. Yeah, you know that's
so prevalent, and so I likefor my entire after I was about nineteen
or twenty. I would sign upfor a gym, I'd go for three
six months, not seeing the resultsthat I felt that I should be seeing

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at that point because of what I'dheard and read and you know, the
impression you get, and so thatI would stop. I played hockey.
I had a pretty good base asfar as you know, legs and presterior
chain just from playing hockey a lot. But yeah, it was only about
six months of lifting as an omnivoreand then I went vegetarian and then started

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cutting out dairy. Do you liftit all for hockey? I mean even
hockey in LA probably wasn't incredibly popular. Yeah, And it wasn't like it
was like it's like whale shit beerLeague Hockey coat like nothing serious. It's
just a bunch of fat guys playingyeah, yeah, having fun. Yeah,
nothing crazy. Yeah, hockey isnot a big sport in California period.

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I think probably just because so damnhot. Yeah, I mean the
Mighty Ducks movie came out, andyeah, roller hockey was big for a
little bit. Yea. So Igot into it when we got pro teams,
you know, I mean Vegas gotthe best pro team and there a'
you no fucking ice snore there.Yeah, yeah, it is kind of
random, just I mean like versusCanada where of course, of course,
or Minnesota, but then opposite ofthat, like lacrosse is more popular in

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the East Coast and up north therethan it is here, and we have
like lacrosse weather. Yeah, youknow some of us just like culturally random.
Yeah, lacrosse is so much anold school kind of literally old schools
kind of sport. Yeah yeah,Connecticut and Ship, Yeah, not so
much in our experience here. Wrestlingsame idea. Yeah, you know,

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we have like insane athletes in Californiathat play everything, but wrestling is just
not as big as it is inOhio, Pennsylvania, Minnesota. Yeah,
although we're kind of hubs for MMA, but yeah, yeah, MMA is
so spread now, the MMA isso spread. We were definitely an early
hope with your ayah, but it'sfucking everywhere, Like even Jackson's isn't what
it used to be. Like obviously, bones and people are still there,

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but people are everywhere. Pereira,it's just him and his buddies in fucking
Brazil, you know, like yousee that video not change topics, you
know, Pereira m Champ right nowin the one eighty fives. Do you
watch UFC a little bit? Yeah? They did? You see the AI
video of him speaking English? Ididn't see that. Oh fuck, they're
here, dude, the sky netis here. So this guy can't speak

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a lick of English, like maybethree words, you know. And I've
seen him in live streams and interviewsand all that, and uh, really
stoic looking cat incredibly powerful, justlike literally would be like a James Bond
villain, you know, not whoyou want to fuck with. Then his
accent and he's all tad and tanand shit. And then this video he's
at a press conference and I thinkthey just visually animate his mouth. And

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then obviously the audio is all English, and I assume it's a translation of
what he was saying in a differentinterview, and it's so spot on it's
freaky as fuck. That's strange.Yeah, I mean, I mean we've
talked about this before on the showthat we got like offered that for ourselves,
not for free, but yeah,so that they basically they make a

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voice clone and then they can makeyou speak basically any language they want.
Yeah, but the exponential growth ofthat is insane. We talked to him
like within four years ago or threeyears ago, and they needed like three
hours of our voice. They neededobviously x amount of money, they needed
all these like perfectly lined up things. Now I think they can do it
with like two seconds of your voice. Yeah. I work in like information

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security and we're absolutely cooked. Yeahyou're done, dude. My entire last
ten years has been like an entireorganization brought to its knees because someone believed
an email, yeah, or atext. And now you're telling me that
they can call with someone else's voice. No, you're done. We're done.
They can call with other voices,and you can scam and I can
call Subos's phone, so my namepops up, although it's not me calling.

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Yeah, like you can do anything, bro, Yeah, you can
do anything. Yeah. Yeah,you're done. That African ancestor that needed
five a grand prince, Oh yeahwe're done. Yeah, we're done.
His name was now Michael Ford.Yeah, we are done there everywhere.
Can you imagine the scams coming,It's gonna be bad. Yeah. When

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you say me, dude, yougot some kind of fucking No, there's
nothing unplug move into the mountains.That's all. There's that's all that's left.
Just just leave the grid behind.Yeah. Yeah, Well how did
you get into that? Uh,it's a long path of like doing photography
as a transition to the digital photography, and then getting more into computers and
then working in it, and thenyou know, kind of wearing a lot

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of hats and one of them beingsecurity. And now you know, I
work for an MSP here in Sacramento, and you know, I'm an account
manager for like twenty seven businesses aroundhere, and a big part of that
is security. So you know,big part of my day is security.
Yeah. Interesting, I am.Yeah, and I just wonder where we're

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headed. I don't know, likelike passwords are an issue, and we're
trying to get rid of passwords.Yeah, I mean, like even like
everyone got to put everybody in MFA, and you know, I was just
a security conference in DC and itwas like MFA is already cooked. Like
you know, we're years behind inreality. If anyone is committed enough to
getting into your environment, they're goingto get into your environment, Like it's

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just a matter of time. Yeah. That's kind of like physical stuff too,
Like you feel so safe. Butlet's take the internet away, Like
if someone wants to fuck with you, you're fucked, you know what I
mean. Like if someone if they'rededicated enough, Yeah, they're gonna punch
through the window of your car ata red light, you know what I
mean? Like it would that islike a sad truth. And so I
think the Internet people felt was safe. You know when I was growing up,

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it wasn't like my parents are onmy ass, you know, like,
hey, don't fucking say your name, don't say right, And that's
kind of like good things to learn. Obviously that won't because there's ips and
other forms to find you. Butbeside the point, Uh, my question
is why isn't AI made by goodpeople? Then it's a lot of white
hat out there, Like if thebad stuffs, if the bad stuff's winning
the race, why don't we usethis AI brain to start with the security

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and then bring in the fun.There's more money and bad things, sad
things, for sure, more moneyand bad things how sad? How sad?
And there's more notoriety in it.You know, if you're the if
you're the team that brought down Cosperskya couple of years ago, you're the
team that hacked an actual internet securitycompany. That's your legend now. Yeah,
if you stopped it and nobody knowswho you are, we need snowed

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in or whatever. Where's that fuck? You can't be extradited. Yeah,
it's trapped. Yeah, I needhim, get him on a call.
I do save us. Yeah,I don't know. I mean it's it's
scarier to me in terms of likejust banking and all that kind of stuff
than it is in any other way. I think reputationally everyone is is kind

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of equally at risk. But Ijust why, like going back to what
you said, why can't they hackin and like erase everybody's student loans or
yeah? Yeah, yeah, where'sthe Batman? We need the good we
need the nerdy Batman takeover. I'msick. Yeah yeah, just pay my
registration on my car, just alittle little convenient thing. Yeah, a
little gift for Batman. It's justpaid off for two years. Yeah,

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that'd be nice. Oh my god. It reminds me I need to someone
hacked in and renewed my HBO goYeah yeah yeah yeah. Why can't I
just share my Netflix for a monthinstead of raising me two bucks? Bastards?
I haven't actually seen the crackdown onthat. Oh no, they'll get
Yeah, they'll get you. YeahI've seen it. Yeah you're done.
Yeah I haven't. Well, theonly one I was sharing that with somebody

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else. This was a Disney Plusand I did that one on my own.
Now, yeah, I don't thinkI was cracked. I think they
just raised the price. I thinkthat, like some parts of my entire
family are using some of my accounts. Yeah, I had my Netflix at
my parents' house and they said,hey, it's not working anymore. And
that was around the same time.So yeah, no, they're they're cracking
out for sure. Yeah you canadd it or whatever. They'll just add

(26:23):
like three bucks a line or yeah, stupid, you can add them like
a phone line. You know,you've always shared that tweet they did like
a few years ago, and ifI love is sharing your Netflix account,
it's so good, it's so good. When they cracked down, yeah,
they they backed off of that.And I mean a lot of a lot
of people are are getting pushed intocommercial tears where they you know, were

(26:45):
it was reinvent the cable is.Yeah, it's basically the same thing.
Yeah, it's like YouTube TV.Yeah, I got like seventeen subscriptions.
Now, like this is not anycheaper. Yeah, yeah, I know.
But then you bring up YouTube TVbecause I was going to get it,
but it's like eighty and then you'relike, fuck, that seems so
intimidating. But it is everything.Yeah, like it's everything besides obviously like
Netflix. But you're like, shit, I get fucking movies, whatever the

(27:07):
hell I want. I did readwriters. There's a little meme post.
We were talking about sports being theonly issue with these subscriptions. The content
of big contracts up with ESPN andTNT with basketball, so they're they're talking
about adding two new ones and AmazonPrime is one of the leaders. Yeah,
and the Actually I was listening tosomething about that yesterday. There's there's

(27:30):
some thought that T and T isgonna get a little piece of it because
they're they have the ability to threatenlegal action over losing the whole thing,
So it may end up being infour pieces, like three big cass and
then one little one for interesting,little consolation prize for TNT interesting. Yeah,

(27:56):
who knows. It wasn't a Ijust fixed all that. Why is
it all not just in like thesame spot. Well, there's plenty of
places you can find live sports.What do you got? Do you got,
mister hacker? Yeah, see Iknew was watching, but yeah,
I've seen all the UFC's recently,and we got a big one this weekend.
There was one that was so goodrecently that I almost felt bad for

(28:18):
three hundred illegally streaming it. Yeahit was three hundred. I should have
paid for that. Yeah three hundred. You saw send some money just like
throw a twenty and yeah, novelopen, thank you, Yeah three hundred.
Don't give him your credit card number. But you know, I think
this weekend is a big one too. We got to Islam versus. Yeah,
that's gonna be bigod one. Yeah, and then uh and then McGregor,

(28:40):
No, no, that's not thisone. No, no, next
one after that, I mean likethen then that's like twenty eighth. Yeah.
I was looking at tickets, dude, fucking nose bleeders, like thirty
five hundred. Yeah. I wasin Vegas, uh when he fought years
ago, and I couldn't get acrossthe hotel. People kept thinking I was
got to McGregor, like one hundredpounds figure not anymore. Yeah, that's

(29:04):
true, he's thinking now dude,he's doing something huge. Yeah, I
wonder if he's pulling I don't knowif he followed boxing at all. Yeah,
but I wonder if he's pulling aRyan, Like Ryan went crazy and
then came in in shape and itwas all like a pr scheme. Because
now like there's videos of McGregor andthe club and there's uh, they're like,
oh, he's filming a movie,he's making a new alcohol he's doing

(29:26):
this in that roadhouse. I thinkif you do enough blow, you can
train more often. That's tree figure. Yeah, and he obviously did steroids
at some point. I don't knowwhen that testing gets eliminated, but because
then like, uh, yeah,I wonder if he's fucking with the Vegas
odds because supposed to Ryan Garcia kindof did that and then made like twelve
mil just on betting on himself.Yeah. Yeah, I was a big

(29:48):
fan of the guy for a longtime. And McGregor. Yeah, yeah,
I never, I never I likedI like watching him, Yeah,
but there's something I just never Whenhe first came out, his story was
so cool. He's like a plumberon government assistance and like he like came
from the bottom and came out ofnowhere and his fucking but then he turned
out to be a g asshole andmaybe that part of that was the notoriety
and the fame. I maybe partof that was who he already was.
But uh, yeah he fell offquick. Yeah, Dana kind of found

(30:11):
him in Ireland. Yeah, andlike the scrub leagues. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, it was. It wasa cool story. Yeah. Yes,
I've just never actually think he deservesthe rose for his ship talk.
I don't think it's that good.What I noticed is, like you would
watch him, especially like it's likejose Aldo, is that it was at

(30:33):
least in the beginning. I thinkit consumed him. But I think in
the beginning it was he was usingit so effectively as a tool, because
up until the moment of the fight, he would be so livid and talking
so much shit, and then thefight comes out and he's calm as fun
and his opponent was pissed. Allthat comes out pissed, and Connor's completely
calm because he was using it asa tool. He's so far and then

(30:57):
is able to pull it back thatthat person's ing out of a place of
emotion he's not, And that's animmediate advantage. Yeah, then I think
that that personality over you know,it overcame who he was as a person
and just he lost that. Ijust feel like it wasn't that witty.
And everyone's like comparing with Muhammad Aliand shit. But if like you can
watch Muhammad Ali interview like he haslike live newscasters, and back then newscasters

(31:18):
was like a legitimate job, youknow, like you had a skill of
interviewing, and they're like breaking character, cracking up laughing at him. You
know, like no one's really laughingat McGregor, like he just says outrageous
shit. And you're right, hedidn't manipulate it. Well. He played
the game right, he was.He was a good gamer, but he
didn't necessarily like I just don't thinkhe's that smart, you know, he's
not that funny. Yeah, andeveryone just because no one in the UFC

(31:40):
did that. A lot of theguys they had like real martial arts backgrounds,
so they're all polite and humble.Yeah, you know, which was
cool too. That's kind of likefun on the jiu jitsu side. I
don't know if you follow that atall, but like some of the new
cats in jiu jitsu got a littleattitude to him, you know, and
so like that, like they're stillhumble dudes, you know, they're not
just gonna like I've hung out withsome of them, Like they're not just
going to beat me up. Butthey can still bring a gamemanship to kind

(32:04):
of like this traditionally humble activity,right, I mean, just like anything
else, like you can't really getwhere you're going on just your talent.
You need to have that personality thatdemands attention. And I mean that's why
you see fighters get more shared thanthey probably deserve on their skills, because
they're entertaining, they're fun to watchin the press conferences and that kind of
thing. I mean, it's ahuge part of it. Now. Yeah,

(32:27):
I do wonder how that will advance, perhaps with the Powerlifting America meet
with the UFC. You know,like if Dana's is genius as he was
with like power slap, which wasn'ta sport, made it a sport,
used it as a social media marketingtool to funnel to the UFC, and

(32:49):
he finds a way to even thinkpowerlifting has one percent of that and takes
advantage of it. We could beon a ride. We could be on
a ride. Yeah, wait,did something right? I think that's it.
I mean, it's got to beDana White. He's the only one
that understands like niche shit and makingit cool because you grow up you watch
a strong Man on ESPN, Yeah, and like it. It would be

(33:10):
very cool to see it at thatlevel. And I understand fundamentally that it's
so much cooler to watch someone picka car up yeah than it is.
You know, what's the difference betweensomeone watching watching someone squad five hundred and
eight hundred, especially on calibrated plates, it look that different or camera yeah?
Yeah, but these guys doing afingle finger. He's moving a telephone
pole. Yeah, Like that's awesometo play Devil's advocate. Though, I

(33:31):
would never think that power slap wouldgo as viral, right, rather than
like Aldo kicking you in the headand knocking you out right, doing a
fucking jumping off the cage, flyingwhatever is a way cooler highlight than you
sitting there biting your jaw as Islap you. I couldn't figure that out,
but people love it. I thinkit's because anybody can slap anybody,

(33:52):
but now anybody can kick somebody inthe head, so they sort of put
themselves into it more. It's like, man, I let that smack that
shit out of that maybe and maybemaybe that's the powerlifting thing then, right,
so you're not a six' eight, four hundred pound dude, and
maybe they find a way to marketit like oh, this is like just
attainable enough. But I do thinkit's a move. I mean, they
got the TV contract in place atleast IPF does. They got the UFC

(34:15):
met in place, They got theWorld Games in place for the first raw
powerlifting like the next two years.If powerlifter can't make it do something with
it in the next two years,we're probably done and done in terms of
being cool being big like everyone wantsfor some reason. I don't give a
fuck if we're big, you know, like you'd need some kind of money

(34:35):
trickling through. But it doesn't haveto be the NBA, you know.
Yeah, I mean it'd be greatto see eliot athletes making money here.
And you know, you look atpeople like Blaine, like he's one of
the best powerlifters when he was doingit, and he was coaching and he's
programming, and then he's a fulltime engineer because he just there's not enough
money here to make a living offof it. It's hard. Yeah,

(34:58):
But then you make that argument withthe uf right, Like the UFC over
the last four years, it's beenbig, but over the last four years
as fucking exploded. And if you'reif you're a you know, ESPN plus
fight, you're going fifteen g's andyou can only fight twice a year,
three times a year. Not alot of money, right, Ten percents
to manager, ten percents to yourcoach who just coached you for free,

(35:19):
five percents to your masseuse because sherubbed you for free. You know,
now you made fucking thirty grand ina year, Like, it's hard.
No sponsorship. The number of storiesof like contracted fighters who are like living
out of their car is it's wild. Yeah, I can't believe that that
continues. I just knew it earlybecause your Eyah's first like mainstay was kind
of where I grew up and heended up actually being my landlord at the

(35:42):
first gym I ever opened, andI knew we bought rentals around this is
probably two thousand and eight, twonine WEC. It's not even UFC,
and he would buy houses as areal estate investment. But then sometimes you
just have like promising fighters stay therefor free. So you started he started
like I think it was pre UltimateFighter, and he basically ran his own,
you know, like, hey,if you're good and you work hard,

(36:04):
yeah, you could like live herefor free, like sponsorships, you
know, And that's sad, butprobably the only way to do it.
And yeah, it's still current it'sa current day deal until they get a
player's union or figure some shit out, right, So that's why I'll run
in the boxing as seems to getsuccessful. Dude. Yeah, I was
watching a you know, they havea timeline of they deal with music a
lot, like who's the most sellingartist or whatever. They have the timeline

(36:25):
of eighties and nineties highest paid athletesin the world, and eighty percent of
it the entire time was boxing theentire time, Like Michael Jordan stuck up
to the top for a sec makinglike thirty a year, and then like
Shack snuck in because early in hiscareer did movies and music probably you know,
because the NBA is not paying thirtymil per year in the nineties,

(36:49):
and then the rest is all likeHoly Field Buster, Douglass, like names
that a casual boxer with a casualfan wouldn't even know, you know,
and you're like, fuck, dude, they're all just crushing it. And
then philmon sneaks in finally Golf maybea tennis player snuck in. I don't
even think they did. Yeah,it's insane just talking about the explosion of
of the UFC. In twenty twentytwo, they had a record annual revenue

(37:15):
of one point three billion, butin two thousand and five it was under
one hundred million. Yeah, yeah, I believe it, and it,
I mean literally doubled from from twothousand and nine to twenty fifteen, went

(37:36):
from three hundred million to six hundredmillion in that period of time. It's
wild. What was that, gspI guess, I don't know what that
effect was. That's a good question. I don't see it annotated by Jones
and gsp I guess. Yeah,likely those kind of the beginning of bones

(37:58):
and the lightweight cats. It wasthe I'm Gonna cruise your eye era in
like twenty fourteen fifteen. I guesswhat they did when they bought the WC.
That's Steven Bonner, Forrest Griffin finallythat was huge and a lot of
people turning in at that time forscene. Yeah, I don't know.
Sponsorship revenue was one hundred and ninetysix million. That seems low, but

(38:22):
that was a eighteen increase year overyear. I mean, I mean,
now they got sponsorships all over thatfucking ring. They got like, what
is it an octagon? So eightsides? They probably got thirty two plus
fucking they do well. There's onegoing crossbar, there's one vertical bar,
and someone were the same shit likeI think there's monster in prime energy.

(38:45):
I'm like, they just don't givea fuck what energy drink you drinking in
your money? Yeah? And thenit's layered all the way into the ring
with one question is your money green? Yeah? It's a fucking mosaic of
printed sponsors on that proper irish whiskey, and you have Dana's like howling monkey
yeah yeah, and then a happydad right next to it, happy dad,

(39:05):
and they're going crazy too. Ido wonder. I wonder if it
is a promotion deal and why theyhaven't looked at because I've thought about it
for powerlifting. I sat it backin the day for like content creation that
we should have, and I justdidn't care enough or wasn't big enough to
like run at myself. But somekind of players. And I'm not a
pro union guy by any means perse. I think there's good and bad

(39:25):
there. Not to dive into politics, but like there needed to be a
union because people were taking advantage ofshit. Yeah, you know, and
so like two like eighteen year oldsjust got a following and they're just taking
all this shit for free, whereme and my buddies are trying to make
a living off of it. Andthen they're devaluing what we're doing. And
that's kind of what the UFC is. There's such hungry athletes that want to

(39:46):
get to the UFC because it's theonly spot for them. They're like,
fuck it, yeah, I'll fightfor ten k. Meanwhile, you know,
you're trying to do it, andyou got three kids to feed,
and you're just as hungry as me. You're like, well, I can't
do it for ten k. We'regonna go starving, you know. And
and like you said, in boxing, you are the promoter or you're signing
with a promoter, and they're theones making the big money because you're kind

(40:07):
of an independent show in a waylike that, no one cares about the
league, you know, it's aboutthe athlete and it's where the athlete goes.
But I think everybody should be inunion. Everybody should unionize. Yeah,
I mean in instance like this,it screams why, you know,
it really does scream why. Andyeah, you know, powerlifting might be

(40:28):
that same situation, right, likewho needs athletes more Powerlifting America or the
athletes? Like powerlifting America needs theathletes. They don't need Powerlifting America.
They can go to the USAPL justthe same. They can go if all
the top guys decided like now theUSBA is cool again, they could go
there, Like it doesn't really matter, right, They just need a barbell
and for the world to kind ofthink that those lifts are legit. That's

(40:52):
all that they need. You know. They bring that, They bring the
sauce where you could argue the oppositefor something like the NBA and stuff.
At this point, right, theUFC like they can make a celebrity out
of somebody. Yeah, you knowthey they Yeah, the car's definitely before
the horse and a lot of thisstuff here. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
And that's kind of the issue thatI don't think the people understand.
And then you know they're not allfriends or they don't talk about it,

(41:15):
yeah, and they don't kind ofpush it up themselves. But for us
to even like get somewhere like that, because I agree, like you gotta
lift like a pro lifter, likeyou're a strong dude, Like you're you're
worried about your meals. You're not. You're worried about missing sessions, you're
worried about your sleep, like youtrain like a pro. But it's it's
gonna be tough. It's gonna befucking tough because then the views matter.

(41:37):
And for a long time you wereshamed on that. At least I was,
you know, like, oh,you're trying to get views. Yeah,
bitch, I'm trying to get fuckingviews. What do you think this
game is? But but you talkabout it in terms of monopoly, I'm
buying hotels. But they do Theydidn't understand it, you know, they're
like, oh, you're don't evenlike love lifting. You're just doing it
for this and that clout lift orthis clout lifter that. But like,
okay, go get someone to sponsoryou and get a hundred views on your

(41:59):
world record squad. Yeah, noone, No one's going to care.
Yeah. If I could find away to not have to work full time
and only live full time, right, I'll sell out. I don't care.
Yeah, you know, like,fuck it, dude, give me
those crickets. I'll give me thosecrickets, you know. Yeah it is.
Yeah, you got to be entertaining. That's the only real way nobody
wants to watch you. Fucking Yeah. Here's here's six hundred by five,

(42:22):
here's six o five by Nobody cares. They want to see the kids.
They want you know, you havesomething right, some sauce, right.
So that sort of leads to thisquestion, like what numbers are you chasing?
Personally? What are you trying toget? I mean, I think
that right now, I just turnedthirty eight. My short term, long

(42:44):
term goal is hitting IPF Masters whenI turned forty and trying to get to
IPF Worlds Dope, which is gonnabe tough. I mean, I have
my plans in the next year tomove to Northern Ireland, which, no,

(43:05):
you really are a McGregor fan,so like that makes that easier because
obviously getting too just a national torepresent your country is difficult. A lot
easier from a smaller country like theNorthern Ireland. But you're still in a
conversation. It just happened last weekor the week before when I was watching
a lot of the one hundred andone to ten guys, Like they're not
crushing you. Yeah, that's whatI'm saying. Like you're in the master's
numbers. You're in, and they'renot that crazy. Yeah, you're in,

(43:27):
right, Like I had two yearsof work, I think that we're
there, you know, And it'sjust it's a matter of staying healthy and
staying focused. And you know,a couple of years ago, I had
like a long running back injury aftera nas power or during the setup for
a NASS Power meet, and itkind of took me out of the game
for a bit and actually blowing upmy arm kind of ReLit the fire under

(43:50):
me a little bit. And sonow that's that's my goal. Is my
coach and I talking about you know, two years out. You know,
IPF Worlds might even be a yearbecause I think you can heat the year
you're about to turn forty. Okaykind of deal. Okay, so that
makes sense, like Bart Bart anytimein twenty thirty six. Yeah, Bart
turns forty in November this year.But I think technically if he would have

(44:15):
gone to Worlds it would have beenforty was forty, but he would compete
it as a forty plus. Yeah, but it was the same year,
So obviously it depends on where yourbirthday is. But he he definitely called
at thirty nine for them at fortyplus, which is whatever M one or
whatever the fuck they call it.It's wild because like the drop off is
severe. Like when I the firsttime I competed as a submaster, you

(44:35):
know, I was like, thesenumbers are I don't want to say embarrassing.
Yeah, yeah, but the differencebetween the hundred kilo tested open versus
the hundred kilow tested submaster, Iwas like, that should not be a
national record. Yeah. I thinkthere's a couple things that come to mind.
One, I think powerlifting used tonot even like care about masters.

(44:57):
It wasn't like a thing. Yeah, because you'd like Dave Rix is an
example. I don't know if youknow that name, but like Dave one
world's year, Like he's the fuckingRonnie Coleman of power of him. Like
he probably eight years in a rowfor all I know, into his late
forties as an open guy. Yeah, so like he probably didn't even care
for those numbers. And then two, I would say that the sport's grown

(45:17):
so much on the next gen,like the group just after you and I,
you know, so maybe those guysjust aren't there yet. I also
think that you watch people train andit's not set up for longevity. Yeah,
you know. And the thing thatI noticed a lot is that it
come like when you look at watchpeople deload, People deload when they need
a deload. And I think yougot to start looking at that, is
you got to deload before you needit because people are you know, and

(45:40):
I see people it's the same thing. And it's a philosophy that I didn't
really have until I started working withmy new coach. It's that there's a
finite number of one rep maxes youhave in your body, and people are
blowing that up. Yeah. Yeah, they're shooting for that like twenty times
a year. Yeah, and there'ssomeone out there that can handle that,
oh sure, Yeah, but there'sno way of telling whether you can handle
that or not until you're already busted. Right, It's that's the issue.

(46:04):
Yeah, Yeah, we got nocrystal ball, and so now like I
don't do one rep max not offplatform, like and that that was a
huge leap of faith for me becauseI was the kind of lifter where like
I need to know that I canhit it in training before I even think
about doing it on the platform.And now it's like I have to just
And the first meet was such amind trip for me because I'm like,
I'm heading into this third attempt.I don't know if it's there, right,
And it was there and there wasmore there than I thought. But

(46:27):
you know, it's such a leapof faith, and like just hitting set
to two or three and then justknowing that that that's there on the meat.
It was a big change. Butyou know, I'm getting older.
I got to look at longevity anddoing this for as long as I can,
and you know, that's that's whereI came from. You know,
I was talking to sub about saboticcause I'm helping them get to a bench
pr And the commonality now is actually, yeah, exact opposite of what you

(46:49):
said, because not only did likeBulgarian style training like seep its way into
powerlifting over the last eight years,which is really high intensity lower volume stuff.
I'm kind of mixed with Russian stuff, which is, you know,
what was the basis of Conjuga westSide, but now just with less variations.
The other thing people are looking atit because I think they do want
to elevate the sport, which Iagree with is consistency. So they're trying

(47:14):
to hit whatever they're going to hiton the platform three weeks in a row
to know it's there, right,you know, you don't want to go
into a sprinting race. And Iunderstand it. It's not built for longevity
for sure, but it is builtfor stability and consistency of numbers. But
again, how many people have doneit? Yeah, ten years? And

(47:36):
besides, like maybe Elaine Norton,I can't really think of folks like Mike
to Sheer just competed at at MastersGnats in Gear, I think a single
ply. Besides, like folks likethat, there's just not a lot of
people that have done it. Andeven Mike, I know he's trained the
whole time, but he like tookyears off to chill, you know.
So it is it is an interestingand crazy take. Russ just tweeted it

(48:00):
and it started the conversation. Idon't know why. I don't know if
someone big just got injured or something, or maybe it just popped in his
head. But he was pulling peopleon like Twitter and shit whether staying injury
free is a skill, and Ijust always like I bash and rust of
my boys. I'm not bashing himper se, but I always like just
bash the skill versus like genetic conversationto begin with, because obviously no one

(48:23):
ever wants to tip a hat attheir genetics and always wants to tip a
hat to my hard work and myskill and this and that, and so
I don't know if it's a skillbecause of the concept we just said,
like I may have one hundred onerep maxes in a year in my body,
but I don't know until I tryit, And then you don't know

(48:44):
that you don't have it till youtry it, like there's no rhyme or
reason, and then if you letoff the gas too much, you just
get weak, you know. Solike I don't know if it's a skill
per se. I think there's noin your body and there's not being an
idiot, But I don't know ifthere's like a dialed in way skill that
I can just prevent injuries. Otherwiseif that was the case, I'd be

(49:05):
a trillionaire because every pro team onthe planet would hire me, you know,
and like that's even our buddy RamseyNigem would just stop by the other
days probably in my opinion, thebest strength coach on the planet, one
of the smartest mines in the field. pH d under Brad Schoenfeld Masters under
Andy Gallpin, youngest NBA strength andconditioning coach I think in history. Uh,

(49:29):
and he even like even I don'tknow if he personally changed the phrase,
but he's made it popular, likechange the phrase like we don't do
like injury prevention, Like there's nosuch thing, you know. Like and
I was like, oh, I'mphone rolling or I'm doing these you know,
fucking what are they called the helicoptersor whatever the fuck? Now that's
when you twitch your dick. What'sit? An airplane? Airplane? I'm
doing an airplane. I'm doing ahip airplane. And you can do both

(49:51):
at the same time. You mayprevent many injuries. It'll put you on
magic mic. Yeah, we're doingairplanes before every fucking work out, and
I'm preventing injuries like na Man you'rejust like warming up, like like that's
good. Like prehabilitation, I guessis an okay word, But injury prevention
is just like not a thing,especially since so much of it is is

(50:12):
really not the injury that happens inthe moment. Is the injury you've been
causing that you're finally you know,that straw that breaks the cables back.
Yeah, which you can't really likeput a ed Khane agrees with you on
the there are only so many prs. There are only so many, you
know. Yeah. I mean Iwatch people and they watch them post their
training, and you know, they'reseventeen to ten days out and they're they're

(50:34):
testing their one rep max right right. I don't understand that at all.
I watched them on meat day andthey miss it. It was there on
their last training session and they missedit up the platform. And I can't
help but think if you held offon that, that would have been there
on your third But you put yourbody through so much stress, it's such
a short period of time before beforeyou're competing, that it wasn't there anymore.
Just sload management for powerlifting. Yeah, I told my injuries that happened

(50:57):
outside of powerlifting, except I hadone out of the injury, and it
was putting on an east leeve thatwas too tight and I slipped and yeah,
yeah, oh yeah it would neverlike I think that, yeah,
yeah, very very self aware andknowing your limits and this whole like,
you know, there's a difference betweenno pain, no gain and like something's
wrong that I need to get addressed. It is hard because like, and

(51:20):
I sound like the old cap butlike a lot of the new gen is
just a bunch of pussies who've neverdone anything hard, you know, So
like that's part of the issue too, because I hate that argument also,
and I hate the like, yeah, the fuck you lift harder, guy,
but a lot of guys do justneed to train harder because like,
uh, there was a meme.I think I was talking to you and
Lows there's a meme going around andlike or maybe Kyle, like how embarrassing
is our sport where one of thelead like coaching messages over the last six

(51:45):
months trend is like, yeah,you should like do your accessories, Like
that's that's what a pussified fucking sportwe got that, like one of the
lead messages that momentum message is thatyou should do like your work, You
should do all your you should dothe normal ship if you can, if
you got it in, you likework hard on those accessories. Like what

(52:05):
the fuck kind of conversations are wehaving with these people? Is absolutely insane
to me, But you're like,I agree, and what I what I
coach often instead of taking away likeheavy lifting, especially if people enjoy it

(52:25):
or they need that confidence on theplatform is monitoring, Like arousal is what
the coaches uses the term. Butsay say I can have you maxalt.
Yeah, yeah, it's important.Uh veggie burrito arousal one Rep maxis Uh.
So you hit that same like heavysingle, but you're not bashing your

(52:50):
head against the wall, turning onyour favorite Metallica song hitting Ammonia baby powdered
up screaming against having your out ofbed, Like dude, that's you're past
the age that it's I gotta youdo that. And you hit five hundred.
So then now when the meat comes, which is actually below what your
body's probably capable of, because you'renot you're coming in zen. You're coming
in like a normal golf rep.Tiger Wood's got to hit a bomb to

(53:13):
win the game. You know partfive, he's not smacking ammonia, like
he's focusing in and just you know, doing his thing. So then now
when you get to the meat,you're gonna have a little bit of nerves
that are gonna fire you up.Now you can turn on your favorite Metallica
song. Now you can you know, hit a little ammonia if you need
to on your third attempt. Butthe same thing with first and second attempts,
I would say too, like thoseshould be things that you're pretty fucking

(53:35):
confident in that you don't need tobash your head againsts and again, bashing
your head against the wall if you'refun, if that's part of the fun
of this. While I'm talking abouthow to like optimize your lifting, which
isn't always the same because a lotof people just want to have fun,
Go have fun. What do Igive a shit? But if you're trying
to really tap these things in,it's just another aspect of training that we
can use to manage that fatigue.Right, And that's where like a conjugate

(53:59):
west side gets a little skewed,It gets a little skewed if you're going
fucking bashing your head against the wall, and some new exercise and crushing your
one rep max every single time.You know, Louis told me to hit
a PR every session because it's anew exercise. So I'm fucking passing my
head against the wall to hit aPR every session, you know, I
read the books. Yeah, Imean that's I mean the people at West

(54:22):
Side under Louis, like injuries werelike if somebody wasn't banged up, then
there was something wrong, right,Yeah, not working hard enough. Yeah,
there's a balance there obviously, likeyou got to push yourself, but
we're not trying to get hurt.Well in the Bulgarians, right, they've
made it popular in the seventies toone rep max often. But we're talking
about Olympic weightlifting, which is bynature it's maximal. Different story altogether.

(54:45):
Yeah, whatever you're going to cleanand jerk, it's still like thirty percent
less than what you could deadlift andpush press, you know. So it
is just a totally different conversation whenwe're talking about like ultimate strength and something
like that. I just can't dothat. I'm not smart enough to do
that stuff. Bro, It's hard. I watched people do that and I'm
like, man, I do notit's hard. I gave it a real

(55:07):
good go for about eight months.I can't even deadlift. I'm like,
I can't think about anything, andI'm like doing it, like okay,
picture glass wall, Like dude,I don't know. I could be like
I barely got myself dressed today likeyou want me to. I cannot do
this. I just and especially ona third attempt, Like I I'll watch
a playback of a third attempt.I'm like, I don't, I don't
remember this. Yeah, I wasin another place bolsy and red mode.

(55:30):
Yeah, as soon as that platformready, it's just lights out. I
don't know what's going on. That'sprobably good, though I felt like I
was blanking everything else. Yeah,I've like missed like I've re racked early
because I'm not thinking like I'm justin it like I had, like it
was it some meeting USBA California State, I think, and I like had
a pr squat and I look toturn around the three red lights and I'm

(55:52):
like, what what That was aperfect squad. And it's because I didn't
wait for a rack of now toostoked. Yeah, I was too hyped
up too much Metallica. Well,I can't do this. I can't do
this all. Yeah, it hada dead list. I can kind of
do it. That's about it.Second meet, ever, like I had
an old bottle of nose torque,like it really had to get in there

(56:14):
to get anything out of it.Someone had a brand new one in the
same spot. Nice, And soI go up for my third and I
just rip on it and I can'tsee. Yeah, you can't see here,
you know. I'm like, Ican't, like someone point me in
the direction of the platform. Eversince then, I'm like a not for
me, You're seeing God to runit back. For a second. Why
Northern Ireland. I have dual citizenshipwith the UK, and so I can.

(56:37):
I can get in there pretty quickly, pretty easily. I was there
for I was in Ireland in twentynineteen for the IPL Worlds cool and I
have always wanted to live there,and I was just realizing Belfast is incredible
city. There's kind of a combinationthere of it's Irish culture, but a
lot of the conveniences of being inthe UK, you know, which is

(56:57):
it trains and transportation and anywhere.It's like, uh, Greg's coffee shops
and you know, pizza hut thingslike that, like there's you know,
convenience touches convenience, but it's beautifulthere. I don't get sunburn going out
to get the mail, little thingslike that. They're back to the motherland.
Yeah, it's the percentage one sixteenbecause I think I might get mine.
I think it's one sixteenth Irish.I think that's all it is that

(57:20):
is. Yeah, yeah, Ithink it's one eighth Italian. I uh,
I think I think Ireland. Ithink it has to be no further
back than a grandparent born there.Yeah, I was born in London's in
the UK. One was I thought, Yeah, I thought maybe it was
great grandparents. Also, like likeI was looking at like the places to
live in Europe and Belfast for likequality of life and cost is huge,

(57:44):
and like Ireland's one of the mostexpensive countries to live in in Europe at
all right now, So it's likeNorthern Land was like a sweet spot for
everything interesting. Yeah, A lotof the places that rank really high on
that is fucked. You know.You go to like like Netherlands or Sweeten
or something and it's expensive as shit. Yeah, yeah, probably is nice
to live And then the other thingtoo, is like all those surveys always

(58:04):
wonder me. I'm like, well, like, is it actually nice to
live there? Or is the cultureof the people there so that you're satisfied
in a happy, healthy human AndI'm not going to get that because I
didn't grow up there for thirty years, you know what I mean. So
I go there and I'm like,well, this place fucking sucks. But
they're all happy because they just havea better culture and a better brain than
I do, you know, likethey're just wired correctly. There's a show

(58:25):
that Dwayne Dwight Dwight from the OfficeRain Wilson. Yeah, he did a
show recently just goes to different countriesthat are like rigged really high for happiness,
tries to get to the root ofit. And he the first one
he did was Iceland. I've beento Iceland and I noticed the same thing.
And one of the big things waslike you come out of high school
as an Iceland high school student,and they're like, Okay, do you
want to join the workforce, orwe'll give you money to become an artist,

(58:49):
or we'll give you money to becomea musician. Yeah, Like,
go be yourself and we'll pay forit. That's cool and that's I think
that's fantastic. So there's a lotof like exciting and bad art music happening
there. That's a random host becausethey had something similar. We were talking
about, uh, like diets aroundthe world and there's one with like was
it blue zones? Green zones?Yeah, like people were living the best

(59:10):
and how there's like almost no correlationbecause ones like East LA. That's crazy.
That San bernd Valley there's one ofthose, is like on the top
ten green zones. And have you'veever been to Riverside San Burnard? Yeah,
it might not be sam Burndia.There's somewhere, not Ontario, but
somewhere in the Greater La areas onthat list, which blew my mind.

(59:31):
Pomona maybe can't pump. It's oneof those little isolated buckets on the right.
Yeah. Are you calling them bluezones or green zone? I forgot
what they're the blue zone, Yeah, I don't know what's green zone.
It's gotta be something that's where allthe dispensaries are. Yeah, blue zones
yeah, Yeah, that's up here, that's Norkell, Yeah, Northell's the

(59:52):
green zone for sure. Yeah.I think blue zones for those that don't
know, is like a isolated area, city, town, or region that
has like least likelihood of cancer,et cetera, et cetera, the longest,
a average age to live, andlike physically just healthier. So I

(01:00:15):
think it's mostly like cancers and things. Loma Linda, lond there I go.
I just know it's a bucket overthere. So well, there are
a lot of Seventh Day Adventists andyou know what, that's a vegetarian diet.
Yeah, huge cocks on those biggestChristian cocks stomping the planet. That

(01:00:39):
makes sense that ship I'm converting.Then they're her most of Beach, Manhattan
Beach and Redondo Beach. They're justrich. Are trying to do a blue
zone project where they make one.Yeah, Beach Cities Health District. Yeah,
I mean that makes sense. Alittle sand, little sun you're walking

(01:00:59):
around. Yeah, there were fiveBlue zones in the world. Yeah,
Okinawa, Japan, Yeah, Searginia, Italy, which pays you to move
there right now, by the way, you should look at that one.
Yea. I'm probably not saying thisright. Nicoya Costa, Rica, Akaria,
Greece, and Loma Linda California.Now it's crazy, right, Olympic

(01:01:23):
Yeah it was, Yeah, theonly one in the America's that's just crazy.
I would never have guessed that.I've only been the Republic of Ireland.
I haven't been to Northern Ireland.Yeah, it's cool. And when
we did that, when did thatmeet? I made a whole trip out
of it. So we flew intoDublin. We hired a car and that
was exciting just because like it's righthand drive, and they gave me a

(01:01:44):
stick shift. Yeah, and thenthey gave me about four hundred feet a
road to just yeah, figure itout. I don't think I could do
it, is I've thought about it. By the end, I'm like eating
it the same thuc I did itwith an automatic. I don't think I
could do it with that. Ileft hand, just I don't know which
way do the gears even go?They go to the left. Then one
two is exactly the same, exactsame, So one's hell far away.
Yeah, the first is all theway over here. Yeah, I don't

(01:02:06):
know. Yeah, why even doit? I lost count of the number
of times that I went with myright hand and ran into the door trying
to find the gearbox. Yeah,yeah, it was good. And then
we drove down. We did abig loop. The meat was in Limerick
and then we went up to Slagoand then we stayed in Belfast and came
back down. But you know,it was it was a lot of fun.
And all they eat is potatoes.It's it, So you're kind of

(01:02:28):
sat. I'm set. Actually,it's crazy the anytime you're in Europe,
the prevalence of vegan food anywhere yougo. I like, I'm in like
small town, Ireland, like twothousand people in this town and there's like
three places I can eat. It'scrazy. I can go to like cities
of one hundred thousand here in Californiaand there's just nothing. But yeah,
I think all of Europe, likeyou said, like even you know,
the Mediterranean typical diet like he hadas fish and stuff involved, but like

(01:02:51):
portion wise is a lot less thanit's just the typical America of vegans vegetarians
much higher there too. Yeah,so it makes it easier, like you
to go to Bucks and like,oh, here's like six different vegan options
food, Like it's got to beprofitable, like they've got to be out
there eating it. Yeah, otherwisethey wouldn't do it. And the companies
launching, like you look at thelogistics of launching in a country the size
of England with the population of Californiaversus you know, even just launches of

(01:03:15):
the United States nationwide is insane.What's involved in that? So you get
it. There's so much easier tolaunch stuff there. You can Krispy Kreme
there has vegan donuts like KFC isvegan stuff. Pizza Hut has vegan like
all the pizza places, Domino's PizzaHut. Uh, what's that, John
One? I'm a blanket on Popajizethey have they all vegan cheese. It's

(01:03:35):
crazy where we go that is crazy. I will say this as a sidebar,
however, that the best beef I'veever eaten in my life was in
the Republic of Irel. Yeah.I mean it's animal welfare there is pretty
good, like so so good andeverywhere, like even even like Hamburger was
different. Butter and the cheese,I mean it's butter is it's still raising
animals outside, it's still raising animalslike in a more eco friendly and friendly

(01:04:00):
I think that's everywhere besides us,not factory farmed yeah, it's literally everywhere.
Like my family's all ranchers in Argentinaand they're all just cattle. Yeah,
and so they're just we own.I don't even know how many acres
one hundred acres. Ninety nine percentof meat in America comes for factory farms.
Yeah, yeah, it's not fromdown there, different world. Yeah,
yeah, I don't know why either, really, and I don't.

(01:04:23):
We don't. We can't dive intoif you like, even though you said
it wasn't your leading case for things, but like it's just we have yeah,
but we have so much land,you know. Yeah, and like
it would create jobs if we stoppedusing all random shit, right, because
we need more people to do shit. And yeah, the prices would probably
go up. Right. You haveto charge more for a steak because you
had one hundred people working on itbecause you had them outdoors or whatever,
rather than one person working on thembecause you have them stuffed than a cage.

(01:04:45):
The the largest use of American landis to grow food to feed the
cattle. Yeah, that's wild justrice, corn, yeah, corn and
soy and all this kind of stuff. But like the amount soy grows bitch,
hits. I heard that is it'slike just straight nipples. Yeah,
it's like the amount of meat thatwe consume as the country requires the amount

(01:05:05):
of animals that we grow, itrequires like the fat ray farming becomes essential
because we don't have the space,we don't have the ability to grow a
food for them and have them onpasture land. It's like just the amount
that we're eating. And then we'rein like a calorie debt because everyone's so
fat that we have to like makemore food. Yeah, because they consume
more food than what they need.Yeah, trillions of calorie debts everywhere with

(01:05:30):
all these fatties. That's literally thetruth because if everyone ate you, right,
if we just say everyone's healthy,right, so they like get fat
at the level these people get fat, they're at least eating a thousand calories
more a day probably, right,because these people aren't like chunky, they're
fat. Right, We have fatpeople, you know, And maybe that
sounds mean, but it's just true. Like if no one's like coming at

(01:05:50):
you when you're twenty percent body fatand say, hey, you know,
especially in America, maybe around theworld twenty percent is a little crazy,
but in America, twenty percent,you're fucking you're a model, you're a
fucking skinny guy. And so youdo that, you decrease their calories,
then you probably cut farms in likea third. Yeah, literally probably a

(01:06:11):
third, which is crazy. Yeah, and sure, some of it's like
snickers and other food is not alljust meat driven. But beef used to
be kind of like a special thing, right, Sure, people eat eat
beef on a rarity, and nowit's like a part of an every meal,
yeah, you know, or everyfast chain. Yeah. I mean
that's the bigger deal too, right, Like if it was like straight cooked

(01:06:32):
steak, it would be a muchdifferent conversation than steak tendons in your whopper,
you know what I mean. Yeah, Like, just just the mass
production of everything just obviously ruins thequality, but ruins the production itself again,
where like I don't know the environmentalstuff or the humanity stuff, but
I just guarantee, like Argentina,for example, which is known for its

(01:06:56):
cattle, it's just probably way bettersystem for sure. Yeah. The more
you come out of you know,the more you need to make profit off
of something, and at a fasterrate, the quality goes down. Obviously.
When talking about living things, thethe ethics of that goes down.
Yeah, for sure, you know. And it's like people like, oh,
what if you had, like,you know, chickens lay eggs naturally,
I don't eat well. It's likeas soon as you commodify that and

(01:07:16):
need to make money off of that, then you know that's no longer like
a happy chicken like you know it, you'd be a little different. It
was in your backyard exactly. Yeah, I probably still wuldn't need it still
at this point, it's weird tome, but sure, you know,
I think eggs and this is maybejust a meat eater's take. I think
eating eggs is an odder thought processthan eating like a rabbi. I mean
you start like dairy, like itis weird the more you think about it,

(01:07:39):
Yeah, eggs and dairy is it'sweird. It's weird. Yeah,
they say we're the only animal thatdrinks other people's teats. Strange, right,
Yeah, And like, oh youneed it? Like how did my
body become like I, oh,I need another animal's breast milk to survive?
That doesn't make anything. One thatarguments dump too, because half of
parents don't even give them their ownbreast milk or can do it right,

(01:08:00):
Yeah, No, we're just likeformula Yeah, formula bench the titties that
don't even work in our world anymore. Dude, we really are losing one
veggie brito. I heard that.Yeah that's true. I wonder, yeah,
I wonder if that'll make my wifelack tape get her nips are hard
cutting diamonds. Speaking of this ofsoy for a second here, there's so

(01:08:24):
so much reaction to anybody eating soy, like it's gonna maybe it's big nipples.
Yeah, and it's not the thing. It's just not a thing.
There was one guy who was drinkinglike two gallons of swim milk a day
and he had the gun of acast mass. I was even saying that,
right, but that that one caselike just kicked off. Yeah,

(01:08:45):
you know, and I eat asignificant amount of soy. What about soy
boys? Yeah, that's the thing. Maybe maybe you just become a pussy.
Ah maybe I'm waiting for it.I need a little more fit.
Yeah, it seems easier, youknow. Like now it's just uh,
you know, it's it's weird tosee diet politicized like that and like oh

(01:09:09):
this, you know, you know, it's just it's very weird. I
don't know where it comes from thelogics just backwards. Yeah, So they
say the idea that the phytoestrogens insoy are impacting the estrogen levels in the
human body as wild. It's alsowild because ninety percent of steroids are made
from you know, isolated soy proteinsand and things like that, So spery

(01:09:30):
knowledgeable and steroids, sir, Igotta go the uh. But in the
opposite they tried right with liver King, but everyone just knew it wasn't the
case. But he's like, eatbowl testicles, grow my own testosterone.
You know, like none of thatworks. It does not have an impact
on you. Yeah, eating eatingestrogen, especially phytoestrogen, eating you know,
testosterone from a bowl testicle, yourbowl of milk. It's not impacting

(01:09:50):
you the way you think it's right. He would needed to have those like
grafted onto his body, bolls,bowl testicles, if he had those grafted
onto his body, and they canif you had more testro testosterone he could
have. You know, he couldn'teven take testicles. He can even take
like fifteen kh like that. Dude'sgot his own issues. It's just crazy.

(01:10:14):
Yeah, there's a big thing inour space with Derek Poundstone. He
was sponsored by like soy itself,I think, which is kind of cool
when you think about, right,like you normally get like you would get
like a fair life sponsorship, butto be sponsored by milk that Yeah.
I think he was literally sponsored bylike America soy or something, and I
think it was to combat that ideawhere Derek Poundstone I believe, was a

(01:10:35):
police officer, pro pro bodybuilder,a leaf close to or jacked strong man,
pro powerlifter, and so he's agreat figurehead for it. I don't
know if it helped their case atall. Yeah, I mean it all
comes from this, like this modernidea of masculinity of like you can't be
empathetic or soft about anything, true, and then if you do, you're

(01:10:58):
a fucking bitch. You're spitting factsas soon as as soon as you are
eating soy or not eating animals,that's seen as like a weakness, true
and daisy eater, yeah, fuckingpussy you know, eat a sunflower.
So that's where it comes from,is that the whole soy boy thing is
like, oh, that guy caresabout other people or other living things.
But that guy cares what a fuckingbitch I do. Uh yeah. There

(01:11:21):
is like tons of relationships obviously betweenestrogen and testosterone also, which go well
over people's heads, like you needboth, you need both. Yeah,
yeah, you can't just have toastos. You need estrogen your system and it's
not like catabolic per se. Right, Yeah, none of it really makes
sense. Well to flip that onits side, I think that this is

(01:11:42):
fairly easy to say that the peoplewho are going carnivore, who are not
just assuming that it has health benefits, are doing it because it's so fucking
manly and they have doubts about theirown coins and insecurity and yeah, yeah,
it's one hundred percent insecurity. Andit's the same kind of reaction to
when, like, you know,the government tried to control emissions on trucks

(01:12:04):
and so they went out and likethey made their trucks pollute more. It's
like, you're not gonna tell mewhat to do. You're not gonna tell
me to eat less meat. Youknow, I'm a man, I'm gonna
eat only meat. And it's like, you know, I get that mentality,
but I don't share it. It'scoming from an insecurity and kind of
being worried about being perceived is lessmasculine than you want to be perceived.
And it's where it all that comesfrom. It's like, oh, if

(01:12:25):
I show softness or empathy, someone'sgonna think I'm weak and they're gonna think
I'm less of a man, whichis which is crazy? You know,
there's a difference of opinion about whatsmall dick energy really is. Yeah,
someone, it's just also weird tome, Like maybe it means I'm healthy,
but like I just never once tothink about like any of that.
Like I don't walk into a room, a new room and be like,
man, I hope these people thinkI'm a man. Right, it's a

(01:12:47):
one hundred percent of security to havethat on your forefront of your brain in
the first place. Yeah, it'sodd, you know, it's odd.
Or I never think like one habitof mine has anything to do with my
I don't even know what the properterm is, not sexuality whatever the fucking
gender. Yeah, my gender identity, I don't know, you know,
like just because you lift weights orjust because you do X, or just

(01:13:10):
because I enjoy fucking apples and whipcream. You know, I never thought
that has to do with like whoI am or what's between my thighs.
It's a fucking weird world, dude, it is very strange. I swear
it has to do with the Internetfor sure, because like you take away
the Internet and like all those voicesjust get so much quieter. You know,

(01:13:30):
they don't get millions of followers.So yeah, that type of like
energy and people exist, but it'sjust so much more minuscule, where like
if you do something crazy on theInternet, you be The history of advertising
has always played into that. Imean the Marlborough Man or true, but
he was cool. He was cool, dude. Yeah, nice fitting jeans,
he looked good, look good inthose jeens. Yeah, yeah,

(01:13:54):
I'd smoke. The way that theJoe Camill looked like a penis was a
big one, yeah, you know, and there's always been big head on
that. Yeah, he had alot of Edgibritos. That's gotta cast some
estrogen issues for sure. There's noway smoking, oh God, helps your
fucking gains. Yeah. Yeah.If I'm watching hockey like you go back

(01:14:15):
and those guys are like smoking cigarettesbetween periods. Well, one of our
probably the most talented training partner,we've ever had, like raw talent,
uh rip SIGs. In between everyset, you find him in the parking
lot with the fucking we need tobe a proper country. Yeah he be
in full fucking squat suit, sittingin his STV ripping at a stick.
Yeah, and probably probably arguably themost talented powerlifter I've ever been around.

(01:14:39):
Yeah that just and he he smashedweights, but he should have smashed insaneo
waits like he should have been maybethe greatest of all the time. He
just had well, he had alot of things, focus issues. He
was very funny, He was funbe around my probably my favorite training partner
too. But yeah, I justdidn't shout out trust him. Yeah he
needed more Metallica or something. Yeahhe needed more SIGs. Yeah I don't

(01:15:00):
now. He didn't have a singlefacial hair either. Oh yeah, not
much of a man pussy. Helikes porn though, Oh yeah, he
talked about it all the time.He was in some weird shit. Yeah,
you would be probably the best podcastwe've ever had, if you get
a one. I think you toldme tried math once just to try it

(01:15:21):
too. I don't think that's howit works, right, I don't think
that's curiosity gets you. Yeah,yeah, not me. Has it got
me yet? Yeah? I hada neighbor one time they knocked on our
door like three in the morning,our apartment was in Resita, and they
said, hey, can you giveme a ride? And me, not
thinking anything of it, I waslike, yeah, let's let's go.
Man, I'm not doing anything.It's a drug deal with a bunch of

(01:15:42):
math and then you're a drug uber. Yeah, invited me over. You
know, one thing led to another. You know not I didn't do it,
but that's crazy. All of asudden you realize it. Three in
the morning, you're in the valleyand you're participating on a drug deal.
Yeah, I should have. ProbablyThat's pretty much everything that is happening at
three in the morning in the valleyis a drug deal. Yeah, it's
true. Either. I was like, are you going to this bar?
He's I just pull up behind thebar and I'm my gosh, shit,

(01:16:05):
not grabbing a cocktail. I justgot myself in a jackpot here. That's
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(01:16:30):
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your face and call him goons.Yeah, he was a goon. He
was one of the best goons ofall time. He went out pretty bad.
He hit somebody overhead with his stickand got criminal charges and got kicked
out of the league. But beforethat took his job. Serious, very
good guy. And then when Iwhen I graduated high school in eighteen nineteen

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