Fitness tropes that yuck your yum for no good reason

We all see a lot of repetition among fitness influencers. Even the best, most informed ones fall into the trap of repeating tropes that don’t matter to anyone’s health or fitness.

For sure, the content game is tough, and coming up with new topics is an exercise in scarcity. We talk about a few of the ones that bug us the most.  

We also discussed the recent passing of NBA legend Bill Walton and his impact on the sport and culture. Sebastian Brambila (@sebastian_brambila) ran the board and chimed in as well.

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Episode Transcript

(00:11):
Welcome, oh ladies and gentlemen.My, but I've had wants to tell
me something new every time I turnit on for whatever reason, just like
notifications going crazy. Yeah yeah,yeah, I try to turn off every
notification. I don't know why everyapp wants to track everything I do,

(00:31):
and every app wants to notify melike obviously I know why, yeah,
Mark, But like i'd only needa notification from like Canva or something like
yeah, yeah, this one's tellingme that I can turn on Wi Fi
calling. It's like I'm aware ofthat. That's been around for a minute.
If I really wanted it, Iwould use it. I have used
it before. What turned it on? I turned it off? You know,

(00:54):
I use it just because signals suckssometimes. But what's the deal with
Windows eleven? Why it's so trash? Why is everyone hate it? Is
it actual trash? I don't know. I think I have it on my
PC in Vegas. I don't evenknow. I know it's like a thing
within like gaming. Yeah, freakingout, hate it, freaking out.

(01:15):
And I don't know why. Idon't know the answer to that, cause
people people say that same ship withiPhone updates, but then they all update
it and stop planning. Like thislast one. I remember, everyone's like,
don't update your phone. The updatesucks, and then everyone stops talking
about it because they probably updated theirphone or realized it's the same. Dude.
That's just human nature, just tothink everything that's different or new sucks.
I think, so so weird.Yeah, so weird because I just

(01:38):
updated because I figure it's gonna bethe best. I'm fucked either way.
They know what the hell is goingon. They're watching me in the shower.
They're hacking your phone so easy.I've heard you have your your phone
propped up in the shower sometimes becausesometimes watching a video. I'll do it
on the outside of the shower sodon't get wet. Yeah. Yeah,
I just put a for the littletally, a little tally over my cock

(02:02):
just in case. But no,I put it on the outside. My
bathtub faces my shower, which isa glass shower, and so I'll prop
it. Yeah, I prop iton the bathtub on the outside and I'll
either listen or watch through there.Sometimes my showers are pretty quick, so
it's not even like that's serious.I do want to shower with a TV

(02:23):
in it. I think that's sickas fuck. But yeah, I don't
know because then I yeah, Ijust update my shit and don't even think
twice. But people are freaking outevery single time. I think it's a
new emoji this week too. It'slike a little cream by looking one.
Something looks crazy. Oh whoa hello, Yeah, there's like a little yeah,
there's a crazy looking one. They'realways making some such they know what

(02:46):
they're doing, they know what they'redoing, they know it's gonna get used
when it's just walks the line thatthey gotta get some talking. Yeah,
there was one I forgot, butI saw a meme of like the five
that are coming to one's a littlecrazy. They're always very uh what's the
term ambiguous. They're always like,you know, up for interpretation. Yeah,
yeah, you just throw it outlike go ahead, let the culture

(03:07):
take it. So it actually justsort of looked at a subreddit about Windows
eleven. Somebody asks, is Windowseleven really as bad as the detractors say?
This was two hundred and eighty threedays ago, so I'm still using
Windows seven and Window seven was likethe last really stable release of Windows.

(03:29):
Yeah. See, I don't evenknow. I don't even know what that
means almost it works. Yeah.Yeah, I'm feeling that the squeezed upgrade
to something more modern. I heara lot of negative things about Windows eleven,
some of which are here. Requiresvery specific hardware requirements. Okay,
that I get if you've got anold SPC. Yeah yeah, ok.
Doesn't allow you to dual boot toLinux or other non Windows operating systems.

(03:53):
Don't know what the fuck that means? Doesn't bother me? Does that?
Did a programmer? Yeah, likeif you're a fucking programmer, yeah,
man, but then why are youbitching in a public forum? You know,
I don't know. Some people likeLinux because it's more a little more
stripped down and runs a little faster, and it's a little easier to work
on in the in the in theguts. Yeah, but that's feels so

(04:16):
niche. Yeah. It's also Linuxis open source and Windows is not.
Yeah yeah, yeah, so youcan hack it Windows eleven. What do
you got? Do you have it? They are my kid? No,
but I have a PC at homeall right? And uh they took away
my me being able to use mycontroller. What Yeah, I try to
Oh maybe you're a controller. Yeah, we talked about the Yeah, the

(04:38):
dual stock for because the new ones. Yeah, the new ones you're allowed
are mostly good for Windows ten andeleven. But you need like a gaming
controller. Yeah, like a likea brand new game of control. So
that forty dollars one, it's abanger. I might just have to Yeah,
it is a banger for forty bucks. Refer it works pretty good.
It is Xbox, which kind ofmesses me up. The joysticks. Yeah,
you just get used to it.Yeah, but bro, I swear

(04:58):
it's so weird how human it's workbecause I'll be playing you don't even played
that much. I'll play like twogames a day max. And switching to
a new controller, I feel likeI'm walking for the first time. Yeah,
you're on still it feels like that, dude. Yeah, I'm like,
fuck you. I've been gaming fortwenty five years and I feel like
I've never gained before, especially ifyou only played like two games. Yeah,

(05:19):
that's probably why. Yeah, butjust yeah, PlayStation Xbox. Such
a drastic change is insane. Ifeel like gaming's kind of not died,
but it's a little dead. Ye, it's a little dead, right.
Yeah. There's not a lot ofaction happening, not a lot of craziness.
Well, the industry on the developmentside has been in turmoil for a
bit, so yeah. Well,and just a general business model now is

(05:42):
just to update games because it's somuch cheaper and easier than making new games.
Yeah. So they're just sequels yeahin the movies. Yeah, it
worse because it's literally like not evenlike they'll just change one little baby gun
and war Zone has been a gamesince twenty twenty four years, the same
bullshit. Maybe on the back end, they're putting a ton of money into
like ar VR, but nothing's comeof it, like nothing, there's no

(06:03):
advancements, even though I heard it'sXbox the new One and PlayStation right is
supposed to be this year because ofgrand theft Auto I think, so they're
dropping at the same time, whichI would assume they're trying to aim for
a holiday release. Yeah, likea Christmas thanks get right, I mean
that's where the money is. Uh. It says Microsoft is trying to turn

(06:25):
Windows into glorified mobile app that canhas control over which applications you can install,
which sounds a whole lot like yeah, Apple, Apple's iOS Yeah,
which again is the decent business modeland being a based on like phone apps
isn't a bad thing. Like obviouslythe gatekeeping, you could argue, but
uh, phones were like forced tobe like simple and usable. Yeah you

(06:48):
know, and that's what Mac doesbest. Yeah, so like why wouldn't
Windows try to adapt a little bitof like the yeah, like the brain
that. Yeah, it seems youknow that everyone can do it. Cars
are like that, right, Likeall car computer systems and navvy systems and
shit are always trying to compete forlike simplicity and ease of use. Yeah,

(07:09):
it kind of makes sense to me. And then finally it's shock full
of surveillance that monitors and reports youractivity in Microsoft. But that's not anything
new. Yeah that kid, you'refucked bro, Like that dude thinks he's
living some secret life. Yeah,I agree, I hate all that.
I I'll triple down on it.But like you're gonna go get some fucking

(07:29):
satellite phone and not text or goon the internet because you're worried about surveillance.
Like you going on the internet,you're gonna get watched, Yeah,
exactly. Just don't do criminal activitiesand then those watchers aren't gonna bother you.
It's like walking on any stream inLondon, yeah, yeah, or
even here right like New York,Vegas, San Francisco. There's cameras,
cameras everywhere. There's a bank everythird fucking hey, what happened to that

(07:50):
fucking bank? Youngstown shout out?Did you see that? No, JP
Morgan literally explodes in the middle ofYoungstown, Ohio, which I think is
very close to not only my boyCandido, although we've moved to Texas now,
but also my other boy, DaveChappelle. I think they both live

(08:11):
in the area. The it justliterally explodes and then they're like, gas
leak. I'm like, holy fuck, we shouldn't have gas in houses if
it could do that. Well,yeah, it did that in in San
Jose like fifteen years ago. Ohyeah, the whole fucking city, the
whole place blew up. Yeah.Yeah, that I understand because gas is
under the roads and ship. Butthis literally looks like the beginning of Dark

(08:33):
Knight or something, you know,like it it's like they're about to just
run out of the flames with bagsof cats. It looks insane. It
was all over Twitter. I didnot see that surveillance from the outside street
on the opposite side. I don'tknow what the hell surveillance looks like on
the inside, But it was giant. What bank was it? Again?
I think it was a JP JPMorgan Chase. It says JP it's his

(08:56):
JP Morgan, which is I don'tthink a thing like it's Chase. I
assume unless it's a corporate building,then maybe it is JP Morgan. But
I think it was just a regularbank. If you type in Youngstown,
Ohio bank, it'll it was crazy. Seven one killed, seven injured after
explosion rocks downtown Youngstown, Ohio.Explosion is normally explosion was near the Central

(09:24):
Square Tuesday afternoon. Police said unclearwhat caused the explosion, which impacted a
building that contains a Chase bank andapartments. Yeah that's a mess. Yeah,
the bottom floor just explodes. Ohshit, it goes bad. It
goes bad. Yeah. The videois way worse. Does it show it

(09:45):
exploding? Yeah? Yeah, literallycamera across the street. Season that bear
with me when I find that.Maybe it's in here, Oh here it
is. Yeah, it looks likethat's after it looks like a nuclear winter.
Oh there it goes a house fuckingstartling? Is that shit? What

(10:09):
a mess it was yesterday? Ithink so damn. Yeah, we're dating
this this recording bite saying that,but yeah, crimony seven year old Chase

(10:30):
Bank employee is the one who died. That sucks. I mean at least
only one. Yeah, because itwas its giants and all that. Yeah,
it's yeah, that's true. Yeah, it looked like it was about
four or five stories tall. Longstory. Sure you're getting fucking surveilled,
folks. Yeah, unless you're tryingto live some Amazonian river or something,

(10:52):
motherfuckers are gonna know what you're upto. Yeah. No, for sure,
I don't know that part. Youjust have to figure out how to
live with I mean, there areways to deal with that there, you
know, could just be legal.Yeah, they don't think about it.
Yeah, there's they're there are illegalways to be illegal as well, and
that's you know, and not getand not get caught by anybody who's not

(11:13):
an expert in trying to find thatthat kind of stuff. But I don't
know. I'm not going to beillegal. I don't know. You can.
Yeah, I mean you can.I'll just be legal and not worry
about it. I'm not going togo into illegal activities. The easiest that's
the easiest way. My future bright. I'm good. I'm not. I'm
not trying to do no jail timeor get fine something crazy. Yeah,

(11:37):
that's nuts. So so I wantto bitch about something, I want to
bitch about something in particular. Butit's a whole genre of things that we
all are exposed to pretty much everyday because of the industry in which we
practice, and that is social mediatropes in the fitness space that need to

(12:00):
fucking die. And this one particularlypains me because a couple people that I
actually have a lot of respect forhave been banging this drum and I think
it is ridiculous to continue to bangthis drum. And it's also who cares?
And why are you worried about peopleeven thinking this? And that is

(12:24):
I think I've talked about this before. It's organic vegetables, Like, Okay,
there aren't a lot of studies thatshow that organic vegetables are in any
way better for you. But whatis the point of from the fitness standpoint,
banging that drum? Because why doyou care what people eat as long

(12:46):
as they vegetables, like where theyget them, and how much they spend
on them that is not coming outof your pocket. I mean, if
people are saying, oh, Ican't eat well because I can't afford organic,
well that's one thing, but thecontinual like, you know, not
any better for you, blah blahblah blah blah blah, Who cares?

(13:07):
Why do you care? Why putany effort into it at all? And
the answer is to me is alwaysjust you know, content creation. They
just need something to talk about,and they come back to it over and
over and over again. Like it'sa thing. I can tell you from
a personal standpoint, like ninety ofthe vegetables we eat at home come from

(13:28):
local farmers' markets, and in generalthat shit tastes better than stuff you get
in the grocery stores or whatever thatand most of the stuff here local,
you know, it's like organic ororganic methods, farmers markets. That's not
the most critical component to it,but it is a component. And you

(13:48):
can't say that there's no downside topesticides, herbicides. There's you just can't
say there's no downside to that stuff. There's no you know, like it's
very popular right now to say that, you know, the government or science

(14:09):
or whatever doesn't have your best interestat hearts. But I mean, I
do agree with that trace amounts ofthat stuff in your in your body not
going to be not going to begreat overall. You know, It's like
it's like the mercury and fish.You know, that's this is one of
those things. Just you know,fish accumulate mercury and they're fat, and

(14:33):
then you eat the fish and thenyou can get mercury poisoning eating too much
of it. Maybe it's the samewith vegetables. We don't know, but
I do think the priority if you'rea fitness expert should just be on other
things, right, Like you're you'reyou're majoring in the minors for sure.
If that's like the drum you're beating, because those faces that we're well over

(14:56):
fifty percent obesity in America. Ifyou're creating content in America, even in
Canada, chances are your demographics wellinto the USA? Yeah, by a
vast majority. And yeah, arewe more worried about that than we are
just moving our bodies, getting offthe couch, drinking water, sleeping,

(15:18):
getting protein. Like, there isway more checks that I'm checking off.
I don't know if I've ever necessarilyand I don't know even where I stand
on the argument in general, butI don't even know if it's something I've
ever brought up to like a client, just because there's so many other factors
and habits we got to build intothat, and yeah, it's kind of
none of our business. If yougot the money and you think it helps,

(15:41):
yeah, go snag it. Ifyou don't got the money and you
don't think it helps, don't gosnaging. Exactly, yeah, exactly.
It's I don't know, and Idon't know if it is content creation either.
I do wonder with all topics howmuch these people are passionate or not,
because especially nowadays with short form content, you can't get a vibe of
a human right because it's so highlyedited and it's perfectly scripted. I was

(16:03):
even watching a couple of streams overthe last couple of days, and they're
all, you know, most streamers. Age is probably most content creators.
Age is probably twenty to twenty fivenow for the top creators. And how
I can see now how curated theirpersonalities are is insane. And that's in

(16:26):
long form so you can see ita little bit better, and short form
you just can't see it. Youjust think these are happy, positive folks
and they can do any of theiractors. I mean, everyone's just like
a shitty actor now. But Ido wonder how many of those folks believe
their own thing or if they likego in with a full business plan on

(16:47):
the content they're creating, because alot of people do that, you know,
So like these I'm making this up, but like these pro organic people
have a code to an organic farmFresh to You website, and so they're
playing the long game and they're makingone hundred pieces of content on organic foods
to kick you that affiliate code becauseaffiliate codes are like pretty relevant again.

(17:10):
Or do they just truly that's theirbattle. I mean, like at least
one of them at least grew upon our organic farm and just believes that,
right, Like and that's fine,Like if that's the shit you grew
up on. And Waldorf, we'rebasically the whole philosophy they created their own,
like beyond organic, which is likebiodynamic farms, which is an insane

(17:30):
science on like how to fully useeverything you can. And I grew up
literally farming a farm. Biodynamically you'reusing We're building giant compost piles like twenty
feet by twelve feet all over thefarm. You're using all the kalimneure and
everything and making your own fertilizer.Like everything goes like cyclical, which obviously

(17:56):
just doesn't scale that well. It'sgonna be real hard to do for eight
billion people, but historically that's probablyhow we farmed and it works pretty good.
But even that I'm not that passionateabout. But yeah, I guess
my long story is like, arethese people actually passionate about that? In
which case, all right, Iguess, like chase your passion, But
that's probably unlikely. But then whywould they choose that niche? That's all

(18:21):
this stuff you know, everyone's runningnow, everyone's I mean, the whole
thing with the Internet is just likePavlov you know, like someone to do
a piece of content, gets abunch of likes, they drool, they
rinse and repeat. Yeah, Likeit's just everyone tries to copy what they've
seen be successful. Yeah, becauseit is successful because about based on the
algorithm. And so then we justhave a bunch of clones stumping about on

(18:45):
Instagram, saying the same things,doing the same things, acting the same
way, same facial expressions, samelike patterns of speech in flux and words.
Yeah, we're just making a bunchof parrots out there. Yeah.
I mean, some of the argumentis that there's no standardization as to what
organic means. Okay, that's fine. So any big factory farm can put

(19:06):
organic on whatever and unless somebody reallychallenges them on it, you know,
and it makes people somewhat more likelyto buy it who are influenced by the
word organic. But if you're buyingfrom smaller organic methods or organic farms,
whether they're certified or not, likein California there's a certification for it,

(19:29):
those are small farms that we Imean, that's people's livelihood that we should
be trying to support, right yea, and not you know, I mean,
if you want to fight against bigcorporations, like fight on fight them
on some other point, you know, other than just marketing. I don't
really know what I mean, likeresource depletion or some other fucking thing,
you know, energy and efficiency whatever, fight them on all that stuff.

(19:53):
But if they you know, ifthey're choosing to label something as organic and
some people buy it and it's stillfucking vegetables, and who cares. Yeah,
yeah, I don't know. Idon't know. Speaking of farms,
though my mom. Uh, he'slike addicted to this new show. It's
the uh dude from top Gear,the old British cat and he buys a

(20:14):
farm, uh just for shits andgigs. What is his name? He
is pretty funny. He's like it'she just like doesn't give a shit about
anything, which I kind of like. I kind of like his attitude.
He like kind of plays dumb,I think, but he is funny and
he just literally is going through,like step by step on his own how
to make like a pig farm.He has like a perfect like I would
say, narrator voice. No,yeah, he's perlic That's why he's so

(20:37):
good. Jeremy Clarksons, Yeah,Clarkson's farm. So I watched what episodes
out. It was funny. Hewas like trying to fucking he was like
birthing a pig by himself, likein the middle of the night, like
no clue what he's doing. Andthen he's getting pissed because the I guess
it's common in pigs they roll overtheir babies and kill him. Yeah,
and he's freaking out at the mom. He's like, yo, shit,
mother, and he's fucking just likedumb ass ship Yeah, it was funny.

(21:02):
Yeah, I get Uh he's donethree seasons of that quirky ass old
man. Yeah, he's funny.Well since since uh, you know,
they got kicked out of top Gear. He got kicked out of top Gear,
did he? Yeah? And thenthey went to Amazon and they did
a show called The Grand Tour,which was which was essentially a ripoff of

(21:23):
top Gere. And then that youknow, they ran out their contract and
they were done and there hasn't beenany more of that, and top Care
itself is is tailing off. Yeah, I mean you can only do everything
gets a little repetitive. Even ifyou're doing the newest cars or the most
exonic cars, it's still yeah,like what, Yeah, the formats kind
of can get played out. Yougot to come up with some kind of

(21:45):
a some kind of a gimmick thatis your through line through the episode.
Yeah. I think I saw thatAmazon one and they did kind of like
that. They went to Detroit andthey like bought a house for five grand
to stay in for the weekend orsomething, and then they only drove like
mopart type cars. You know,like there's like something there. It's just
a very reality show. Yeah,cooked you know, kind of the reality

(22:08):
show seem kind of dead in somesenses, huh, like just because the
era, because of social media.Yeah, if you're looking for like reality,
you're probably gonna go to YouTube,or you're probably gonna go to a
stream. Even a podcast in asense is like a reality version of an
audiobook or whatever you want to callit. You know, they all kind
of replace some of that. Ithink we talked about this recently, but

(22:30):
like YouTube has a fairly significant percentagenow of all TV viewership because of YouTube
TV, yeah, or just peoplewatching YouTube on their TVs, not just
like computers, but TVs like smartTV. Yeah, yeah, that's wheally
that the whole app thing and Windowseleven kind of makes sense, like what's

(22:52):
your TV? Your TV is basicallybased on phone apps like the you like
the user friendly. Yeah they're notall, but they're mostly Android apps,
right, I mean yeah, yeah, I think Roku and them are,
and sam Sung and sh It's Android, and then obviously Apple TV's Apple but
kind of makes sense to run shitlike that. I do wonder what the

(23:14):
percentage is then of YouTube TV,because that does seem popular because that is
like the main cable now, right, Yeah, because everything else is like
trying to package up, but they'reall not the same company, so it
makes it difficult. Now, Ithink I think most people are watching other
sources other like than like sports.Any movie or series is probably on a

(23:37):
streaming app. Sports are the onlyone that's kind of like still strong and
running on its own. Yeah,speaking of sports, Anthony Edwards is a
refreshing view on the NBA. Idon't know if you have seen his interviews,
and shit, he's twenty two,you know, so he's just living
the dream and he's like acting likehe's living the dream. There down three

(24:00):
to one in a series, orI think they're down three to zero in
a series, and they just winthe first game in the series, and
he's joking like crazy, not givinga ship in the postgame interview, talking
about bringing sneakers to his favorite andthe NFL player and shit, you know,
I kind of like it, Likethere's something about the Kobe mentality and
being all you know, like allin, all in, but this kid's

(24:21):
a freak and he's still kind ofhaving fun with it and being like silly.
I know, some people were comparinghim to like Michael Jordan. That's
like the biggest comparison just because heshit talks, I think looks a little
bit. I honestly, I mightsay he's a hair more charismatic than Jordan.
Jordan was charismatic, but he wasn'tas outspoken. Yeah, this could
We'll just say anything on the micand then they just like are built and

(24:42):
move ya crazy? Similar do youthink he'll be like the next face in
He's definitely a next face. He'sdefinitely the next face uh luke is gonna
be in the conversationship. But thatif he's just quiet. He's a little
quiet. Obviously there's an accent barrier. But if if any if they're yeah,
if if aunt Edwards can keep uphis performance, he's definitely like the

(25:04):
next face. I feel like JohnMorant had it. It was literally handed
to him on a silver platter andthen he just started fucking hopes they fuck
it up? Yeah, fu up? And who knows, like coming in
Aunt Edwards wasn't that well received,but yeah, in this playoff runt,
he's gone crazy. Yeah, andMinnesota doesn't really help, you know,
it helps when you're in a bigmarket. It's like Memphis doesn't really help.

(25:29):
But yeah, Lebron did it inCleveland, but then again, you
know, whether it be pressures ornot even moved to Miami stuff did it
but the Bay area just because they'vehad bad basketball, but the Bay is
made for sports. I don't know. I don't know about the Minnesota shit.
The playf's been interesting though. Theygot a lot of press, which
is kind of cool. It's thefirst time people like seem to like really
care about the playoffs since maybe youknow, the bubble m Yeah, yeah,

(25:51):
probably. So Bill Walton died,we should just note that. Shut
out Bill, shoutout big Bill Man. What a crazy guy. All reading
all the stories and stuff. Justlike whether it's like people I kind of
know or just people in the industry, it seems like he was such a
bright energy. So people don't talkabout a lot because he was kind of
hated here for a sec although everyonewas being nice obviously because he passed,

(26:12):
but because he was an announcer forthe Kings for a while and a lot
of people hated on him. Yeah, but in hindsight, obviously they aren't
as much because I think he justsaid what he wanted to say, you
know, so he didn't like alwayssuck the King's cough all the time,
only ever said what he wanted tosay. Then that was like, you
know, I mean, I thinkthat's cool. I hate tuning into another

(26:33):
team, even if it is myteam, and in hearing the announcers so
biased. Yeah, you know,they're like bitching about fouls that are clearly
not fouls. You know, theyjust like throw the game out the door
and just sucking the dick of theteam they work for. I hate that
too, you know, And soI think that's why people didn't like Bill
Walton. Right, it was alittle early in mind. I mean it
was when we were good. Itwas like I was high school, maybe
just before high school. Yeah,I think he would just say like when

(26:55):
the Kings were wrong and people gotpissed at that, or when Chris Webber
didn't play well, people they flamethem for it. Yeah, And you
know, I'm biased because I watchmore baseball than anything else and I'm a
Giants fan, and so they havelike historically one of the best broadcasting crews
TV and radio like kind of anywhere. But they do criticize. I mean

(27:18):
they're you know, they're they're homersto a certain extent. But when they
say you can't do that, oryou can't get away with that, or
you can't whatever they're I mean,a lot of a lot of very homer
broadcasters will not say those things forfear of retribution and losing your jobs or
whatever. Yeah, which is kindof silly. It is silly because if
if, if your team is playingbad, you should be able to say,
this is not this is not good, this is not acceptable, this

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is not you know, yeah,this is things you just can't allow to
happen. You know. Bill Waltonso us enough. No, I just
looked them up. So Bill Waltonplayed at UCLA and the great John Wooden
arguably maybe the best coach in allfucking sports. You could easily argue Bill
Walton. You could probably argue topfive top ten college basketball players of all
time, just an absolute dominant forcein the seventies, and then had to

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stay with the Trailblazers. I thinkhe won a ship with the Celtics and
Larry But he had a lot ofback pain, like a ton even really
young. So his NBA career wasslightly underwhelming, but it was one of
the ones where people kind of knew, like, no, it's literally just
his back like otherwise he'd be shippingon all guys. Oh he's a big
fuck. He's probably seven foot sixten. His son played with the Lakers

(28:29):
and Kobe for a long time.Luke Walton, yeah, six eleven.
Yeah, he's a big dude.I have him on a pair of socks.
Stance made a pair of socks athim back in the day on the
Trailblazers. Yeah, big old redafro. He looks like a lumberjack.
Yeah yeah, yeah. Have youheard of Luke Walton. Luke Walton coached
the Lakers for a bit. Heplayed for the Lakers. That's his son.
Obviously. He might even coach theWarriors for a bit. He's coached

(28:51):
a bunch of sports. Yeah.Yeah. Is he as tall as Luke's
probably six nine, six ten.Yeah, Luke had a decent NBA career.
Does not look Bill with six eleven? Yeah? Yeah, And Luke's
got to be over six eight becausehe kind of played power forward ish,
but he played with Kobe and them. You might even want to ship with
them to the sun. Uh andthen it's now yeah kind of on his
coaching coaching career. I never watchedwatch Bill Walton, only in replace I

(29:15):
think I'm a little young. Yeah, Luke Walton was six eight, you're
dead on. Yeah, he's abig dude. He might uh yeah did
he coach the Kings. He mighthave been here for I think he was
Lakers Kings. Yeah, yeah,Luke was Yeah, dude, the Kings.
That so many coaches changes, Ican't even keep up in my brain.
Yeah, but Bill Wallton is abig one, big one. His
his deal was uh, when Kerrwas out with back surgery, he was

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Luke. Yeah. He stepped upone of the playoffs games and they did
pretty well. That. Yeah,that showed him a bunch of love.
Yeah, and then it just turnsout he wasn't that good. Yeah.
Really, Yeah, I'd be apretty good coach if I had Steph Curry
and his prime too. Yeah,exactly should be looking pretty good. And
isn't the NBA one of the likethe sport that the coaches have the least

(29:59):
impact. I've we went over thatlist, Yeah, I know we did,
and I can't remember. I forgot, Yeah, I forgot that list.
We went through all the pro sports, I don't know. Yeah,
there was a comparing college I thinkit was comparing college and pro sports.
In the majors in the major sports, maybe because I think I remember me

(30:22):
predicting that college coaches would have moreof an impact and NBA coaches would have
less, and that was the case. I think they were kind of middle
ground. I don't think they werehigh or low. At least that's what
the logic in my head is sayingthat coaches have a pretty good, pretty
good impact, but not as indepth as football or something, because just
making play calls is so crazy.Where an individual can kind of outdo a
play call in the NBA can't reallydo that in football. Apparently the biggest

(30:48):
impact, according to this is Americanfootball. Yeah, I would agree.
I mean, you're literally calling everysingle play and you got eleven dudes to
fucking move one thing perfectly. Yeah. Yeah. So to jump back to
YouTube for a second. In January, Nielsen released viewing usage across linear TV

(31:15):
and streaming revealed that YouTube is onceagain the overall top streaming service in the
United States with eight eight point sixpercent of viewing on television screens, while
Netflix was at seven point nine sevenof all viewing not versus a phone,
all viewing TV no no TV screens, TV screen Yeah yeah, so it's

(31:37):
not comparing cell phone used to TV, it's comparing platform to platform on TV,
platform to platform. Yeah, Netflixwas seven percent seven point nine percent
Netflix eight point six percent YouTube.That's insane that it's so split like that.
Yep, right, because like you'verewind thirty years ago and it's like

(31:59):
Comcast are Direct, Like that's it. Yeah right, Yeah, it was
probably close to like a thirty thirtythirty split with some other shit Comcast and
they're that's in our experience. Thereare different cities, they're big, big,
East Coast has some has some thatwe don't have here. Yeah,
even even Nevada with Cocks Spectrum andCocks. Yeah, but I bet you

(32:21):
there's like four Yeah. For forYouTube to be the biggest and be less
than a tenth, yeah, it'spretty crazy. Yeah, because because then
you know obviously what Hulu, AmazonPrime, Yeah, Apple TV, what
else? Another banger Disney Disney doeshave to be in the conversation. Peacock.

(32:43):
Peacock's probably in the conversation just becauseit's got some major hitters. Peacock
is just small, but they're likethey're pushing into sports pretty hard. Yeah,
what was the big sports deal thatjust happened. Oh, Netflix,
we talked about that a little bitin the Live Sports. Yeah, they're
showing the w NBA game for thefirst thing, and the Mike Tyson and
Netflix said they would never go intosports, and they went into sports.

(33:04):
They said they would never have ads. They have ads, You don't they
have ads when you pay even right, they'll throw them bitches in the beginning.
Uh, when you the fire tvapp does that? I don't know,
but oh, maybe it's just theapp. My fire tv is just
like it's irritating the crap out ofme and may have to be replaced for
was one stupid thing. It's alwaystrying to update the remote that Windows eleven

(33:28):
and yeah really yeah, and itsays that it'll take two or three minutes,
and twenty minutes later it's still goingand nothing's happened interesting, And my
original remotes died sometime back and ormostly died, and so I had to
get another one and I didn't getexactly the same remote. Yeah, and
apparently it just doesn't it's not happywith me at all. Bastards. Yeah,

(33:50):
I don't know where you're watching withlive TV. Who's got live TV?
I know that because of the commercialsthey ran that good. Yeah,
and it's catchy, Yeah it is, and they got all the cool guys
saying def Korean Dame Lillard are sayingit. But yeah, I don't know.
I don't know where people watch regularshit either. And there's a there's
a bunch of like bundling happening now. Yeah, yeah, Hulu and Disney

(34:10):
just came up with another one,I think. Yeah, I can't remember
who else that one was with.There's one that's there's a bundle that is
you can buy it independently, andthen there's a bundle you can only buy
through Comcast that includes Netflix, butit you can only get the commercial version
of Netflix. And you know,they make more money off of the ad

(34:36):
sponsored stuff than they do from membership. Sure with the amount of views,
holy cow, they're probably raking inthe dough. Yeah. I mean,
the question is whether or not there'llbe a point in the future where they
just stop offering the ad free versionsof stuff. I know, which does
suck because then I would rather justhave it free. And I'd almost rather
have them all free. And youplug me with a couple ads. Yeah,

(35:00):
you know, we can get Idid not realize how many things you
can get if you just have anInternet connection. Yeah, free v.
There's a bunch of random ass yeah, like mini apps that tub yeah,
yeah, all those, and youcan find some decent moviode I mean even
I think Amazon Prime is another onethat will blasts you with ads regardless.
I don't know if you can upgradebeyond them. Yeah, it's two ninety
nine a month to get rid ofthe ads on the top of your membership,
on top of your membership masters.I did it because a lot of

(35:22):
the things that I watch on Amazonand things I don't want commercials in.
Yeah, I don't. I don'treally watch shit. I really don't because
I don't even have all that manyYeah, Disney, but they just don't
update. There's shit enough, youknow. Yeah, there's just not that
many movies coming up. You know, there's a lot of stuff on Disney
now because they own everything. Yeah, right, they own ABC and they
own fucking yeah whatever else ESPN.That's why I wish they had more sports.

(35:45):
ESPN apps kind of confusing too,right, because like you buy it
and you don't really get anything besideslike South Wales rugby. Yeah, and
then and like the Women's Softball WorldCup and then like to see anything legitimate,
either buy it pay per view orI don't even know if you can
buy like a straight ESPN app thatjust shows you like basketball because they don't

(36:06):
own all the basketball games. Yeah. ESPN Plus is their other service.
It's actually comes bundled with Hulu andand and Disney Plus. Now, like
you can buy that bundle. That'sthe one I have currently, and it's
I have like commercials on Disney.TNT's team's breaking up arguably the best,

(36:28):
in my opinion, live sports showtalk show ever, the Shack And yeah
they're done because TNT didn't re upthe contract with the NBA, right,
so who ended up with that one? I think it's just going everywhere because
that's not like it NFL and NBA, I mean baseball too, right,
Baseball, I feel like tends tobe more local. Like there's a very

(36:49):
rare chance that you live in SanFrancisco and you're gonna watch like a Rockies
diamondback game, right, Like,it's just less likely because there's so many
games you're gonna just pay attention toyour team. Where NBA and NFL,
in particular NFL, i've probably onthe scale you watch the most games that
have nothing to do with your team, right, and then NBA is probably
somewhere in between. But I thinkbecause of that, yeah, like Netflix

(37:12):
might have bodied I think Netflix mighthave did buy an NBA game or two.
I forgot what it was, ESPN, ABC, CBS. Maybe the
main channels are trying to buy itback. So like the Peacocks and shit,
I got Paramount Plus that's got somedecent shit and no sports. Yeah,
I don't even know where to watchsports. It's kind of trash.
Paramount Plus is getting more sports.But and then, yeah, the how

(37:37):
the fuck are you supposed to watchthe Olympics. That's a good question.
I don't have an answer for,you know, and that starts in like
thirty days. Disney, Amazon,NBC is as of seven days ago,
but two days ago, Adam Silversaid that the TNT deal may not be
dead just yet. Yeah. Ithink the team's dispersing. I think Charles

(38:01):
Barkley's production team bought it. Idon't know where he works or what his
production team does, but I thinkhe tried to just buy the guys.
Yeah, Charles Barkley won't let corporateHonchos silence him over NBA rights deal.
I can talk to who I wantto. Yeah, a lot of that
stuff. It shows you how longit's been going on the background, because
Shack just started a podcast with thelast couple of months, probably because he

(38:22):
knew his show was over, sohe's building the hype. Yeah. Yeah,
they're still a moving to which isinteresting finding their ways. They said
that they wouldn't do a show withoutthat core group, right, I assume.
Yeah. I think they all getalong pretty good. Yeah, I
assume so. I mean the chemistryseems like, Yeah, they're funny,

(38:42):
man, they are funny, andthey say some crazy shit. They let
some like pretty off the wall shithappen for I think, dropping f bombs
and stuff because his live sometimes Ithink that shit just happens accidentally and they'll
probably just take the fine, youknow. Uh so it runs through next
year though, Okay, so onemore year at tnc Yeah, one more
year and then but you know howthis stuff goes. It takes a long

(39:04):
time to negotiate these contracts. Yeah. I think that was the big thing.
That's part of the big thing theNBA is doing. Before they announced
their new teams, is there lockingin all these contracts because the contracts probably
go for five or ten years orsomething, right, Yeah, so it's
probably a big old deal to lockin the TV contracts and the player union
attached to that. And then Ithink they're going to officially announce their expansions.

(39:24):
Where do they think if they're goingto ext Vegas Seattle? I think
it's almost were talked about. Yeah, I think it's almost written next now
that it's Vegas, because they've beentalking about that since like twenty ten.
They already run the summer league there, they run the Olympic training camp there.
Yeah. Yeah, there's a lotof the women's teams going bananas.
Yeah, I don't know. Didwe talk more recently about about the issue

(39:47):
with the a's deal for Vegas.We talked a little bit. The latest
thing I heard was that it itstill faces like pretty significant funding challenges because
they're only back up for building thestadium is Bally's, and Bally's is trying
to build as a company er hotel. Yeah, as a Yeah, the

(40:08):
whole funding ballet gaming organization, whichincludes all the hospitality, yeah, Balles,
Balle's, and they're trying to builda new casino someplace in New Jersey,
and uh, there's a lot ofmoney tied up in that, and
that they don't have really all themoney for that put together yet and so
and they're the main backer, andthey're the main backer other than the a's

(40:31):
organization and what money they got fromthe Nevada legislature, Yeah, which probably
not much. The Nevada stuff getsweird, which I just found out,
and don't quote me, but there'ssomething about, like I don't think the
Strip is technically like part run bythe mayor. It's run by like some
council. Yeah, and so likethat kind of splits up the city weird,

(40:51):
depending on how you're doing business.Yeah, kind of like Sacramento in
a sense, right, Like SacramentoCity is pretty small and we have a
million suburbs that stretch out for thecounty. Yeah, but I did just
learn that, So like, yeah, I don't think the mayor regulates the
Strip, so that kind of playslike a political role and shit like this
on how that may may or maynot And I don't think they all get

(41:14):
along very well because obviously, ifyou're the mayor Las Vegas, you want
to be a face of the Stripbecause that's what you got going on.
But he's not or she. Idon't even know what it is. I'm
not sure either. That would beinteresting. Yeah, though even the licensing
business is just so shady. They'relike this team is just gonna be the
A's wherever they end up. Andthen there's like reports they filed for Sacramento
A's copyright everywhere. Yeah, probablyjust keep anybody else from doing it,

(41:37):
but you never know. Yeah,very or very least you had to sell
merch. Yeah, maybe they playerswon't wear it, but you could buy
it in the clubhouse or something.I didn't know, which I heard from
a member actually, So who knows. If it's true that they're building out
the stadium more that they're trying tolike yeah, yeah, that they will
do that in the office, Yeah, that'll be cool. New locker rooms

(41:58):
or like new seating, like they'reto add like five thousand seats. That
makes sense, No, for suremakes sense because it's just what like thirteen
thousand is yeah, yeah, small, And what's at and T or whatever
it is? It even a Tand T. It's Oracle and I think
it's between thirty eight and forty thousand. Yeah, that's why normal ish.
That's pretty normal. It's on thesmallish side because they give up. They

(42:20):
give up a whole bunch of rightfield. Yeah for the standing deal,
Yeah, which is cool concept.But yeah, the standing thing and the
fact that they're up against the McCoveyCove and the water. Yeah, we
are too. Man, if youhit a bomber, you end up in
the river. You better hit afucking bomb though. Yeah. Yeah,
that's an absolute new Yeah. Youdidn't need missile to get into the river.
It probably smashed all those apartments alongthe way. Yeah, the apartments

(42:44):
are in the way now, it'sbuilt those up. Challenge. Although the
way that ballfield is oriented, youit had more inland. Yeah, towards
the pyramid. Yeah, more towardsthe just the weirdest building in Sacramento.
They's built a fucking pyramid. Yealiterally in the nineties, right, yeah,

(43:04):
in the eighties nineties. Yeah,I grew up with that family.
It was the money store, theTurtle Tops. Interesting. Yeah. The
director of Little Sunshine what the sameguy. Yeah, and now his son
Alex was really close to my mom. I think he does producing and directing
Hollywood. Now. See, yeah, say they take down the dime the

(43:27):
pyramid. Make it a bass proshop. Yeah, come on you Memphis.
Yeah, yeah, that ever's inthere, Memphis beating us. It
would be a six store or evenlike a hotel we need. That would
be a sick I think it isa business now, it's not money store,
but somebody bought it and they're shittingthere. Is the state, Yeah,
it's a state employees retirement system.Yeah, so it's not the state

(43:51):
itself, it's the the actual retirementin the same way that we have cow
purs down the street here, that'sactually a state institution. I don't think
that is. I don't think thestairs is. I don't know. Yeah,
I know they sold not only thebuilding but the company in like the
late nineties for some absurd and itdoesn't exist anymore, right, I mean
money store? Yeah, the namemoney stores, I don't think somewhere no,

(44:12):
I think it was. I thinkit was a national credit type bank,
and I don't think they're around nomore. Yeah. I think he's
just making movies. I haven't talkedto him at the time. I know,
I know he owns like a yogaretreat in Maui. He ended up
I think marrying my pe teacher.What. Yeah, and I think they
have like a compound in Maui wherethey do like yoga retreats. Interesting.
Yeah, very waldorfy type folks.Super kind. Yeah, dude was worth

(44:36):
like five hundred million in the ninetiesand he drove like a nineteen eighty five
Volvo station Wagon. Just didn't givea shit, kind of the typical billionaire
type vibe, you know, wherehe's just wearing like a flannel shirt,
just driving it. I would tastation wagon. California is a place where
you cannot easily judge how much moneypeople have by the very different great dress

(44:58):
and what they drive. In fact, they're if their clothes look expensive and
their car looks expensive, the chancesis that it's all credit card pretty good.
Yeah, Yeah, they're looking rich, being wealthy. Conversation. Yeah,
let's wrap it back to Instagram.That's everybody. Yeah exactly. Do
you have any uh, you haveany other bitching points? I think just

(45:20):
the a'lgo in general. And it'snot because of views, and it's not
because of like what's popular, butit's just literally creates, you know,
the echo chamber. And I'm noteven talking about like ideologies. It's just
the echo chamber of like creativity.You know, you're just forced to do
what everyone's doing. So everyone doeswhat everyone's doing because of that Pavlov feedback,
and then we're stuck with nothing,you know, for anything to grow.

(45:43):
And people will argue that and say, well, you're just not creative
enough. Or I've heard of abook. I haven't read it, but
it's called like a steal, likean artist or something, and the concept
I understand. Obviously I should probablyread the book to learn more. But
and I get that everything's inspired byeverything, and that it takes creativity to
create anything, even if you're regurgitatingor whatever. But it's just not what

(46:06):
I'm a fan of. And themore personalities are faked, which I hear
people talk about, which blows mymind. I guess it's just norm now,
you know, like oh, that'slike my on air personality or that's
my off air yeah, or whatever, like oh he's different. I've heard
people say oh nah, he's differentoff camera. I'm like, well,
that's weird. Concept. Then Ican't say that I've ever experienced that.

(46:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, obviouslyit's been around, but like for people
to like admit it and that'd bethe norm. Is weird to me.
Yeah, and that's just kind ofthe creature we've created with the money back
in. How popular or social mediais? I actually, I wonder which
thing is more annoying than people whohave two different personalities, like an on
screen on air personality versus their realpersonality, or the people who believe they're

(46:52):
on screen on air personality is themand they try to act it all the
time, even though I would rathersomeone be at least themselves one hundred percent
of the time, so at leastyou know what you're getting. Yeah,
then you can cite for how youmove around that If someone fucking has eight
personalities, I don't know who thefuck I'm talking to or how they're supposed
to move. No, that's true, that's true. Yeah, that should

(47:13):
sucks. I think we all adaptto what's around us. But at the
same time, uh, not beingauthentic at all. And I think it's
hard to be authentic and it's butit's it's easy to say you're being authentic
and hard to really be authentic.Yeah, it's crazy the amount of people
that have to say they're authentic andgenuine. Yeah, like bro, like
if you like it's like hardcore ifyou have to say your hardcore, you're

(47:34):
a hardcore Yeah, no, onepercent, because then the very next post
they'll talk about fucking speaking their truthsor something like that, or like talk
is cheap, you have to act. Yeah, and then like two seconds
ago, you had to tell meyou're genuine, right, Yeah, it
makes no sense. Another one Iwas her out there is just the and
we've talked about this before. Thepeople who get up at four thirty in
the morning or whatever. It's like, yeah, you're a morning person.

(47:55):
I get it. Yeah, wehad a good chot on I don't care.
We had a good chat with Jamarand Bart about that on the Barbara
Gage Show and kind of a newperspective they fed to me and Jamar I
think put in I don't want toput words in his mouth and can go
watch it. But basically what hesaid is he would post stuff like that
and talk that way to bump himselfup because he was so tired and down

(48:16):
or like to motivate himself. Sohe had to get up at four.
So he's like, well, fuckit, man, I'm up at four
and no one else is up atfour, Like I gotta get it done,
you know. And it was almostlike self talk, but he has
an Instagram so that it comes offa certain way. He's like, dude,
they misconstrued like I'm not throwing middlefingers to nobody, but like I
gotta get myself going, you knowthe jim like I'm working harder than everybody

(48:37):
else. Yeah, yeah, literallylike that. And he's like, that's
just to get me going because Igotta be in this cold ass gym at
fucking four am by myself squad eighthundred pounds. I'm like, bro,
I get it, Like you dowhat you gotta do. Yeah, And
it's different when you're at the topof the game. I guess that would
be like the big the one petpeeve of mine is like people that haven't
like done anything or been anywhere longenough and they'll just emulate what they see

(49:01):
above. Like have you've been squattingtwo years? Three years and you're talking
all this shit on you know,Like, well, yeah, man,
Like Jamar's squatted six hundred when hewas twenty years old, played college football,
been powerlift in ten years. Russbeen powerlift in ten years. Like
they kind of got a spot totalk about it and at the end,
they're still at the top, youknow, so again, Yeah, kind

(49:22):
of letting your actions speak for awhile before the action should definitely and I'm
all fine with shit talk, butactions should definitely lead the way. Yeah,
you can't have your mouth lead theway. I got a piece so
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