Ronnie Coleman: The King (2018) | A 50% Facts Review - 50% Facts with Silent Mike & Jim McD

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Well, they never the Golden State didn't have somebody that
could just drive the lane and get and get fouls.
Think about like they were never the Golden States never
shoots free throws, and now all of a sudden, they've
shot more free throws in the last week than they
have ever because they got Butler driving the fucking rim
getting banged up.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Yeah, it's just like David Lee. David Lee would get
to the line a little bit and that team was
good too, But then Steph wasn't he was good? He
was good. Yeah. Montelish, Yeah, montellis an unfuh forgettable stud.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Forgive us. We're talking a little basketball on the on
the lead in here, they.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Got All Star weekend.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah, hey, when do we get in our All Star
game that we were promised?

Speaker 3 (00:55):
When we have more hotel rooms?

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Still talking about that's the show. Yeah, yeah, well I
was reading some on the Super Bowl. They just be rotating,
huh like that? No one, Like, I don't know if
they can't back. Yeah, it's going back to so fights.
I think next year's back in Santa Clara. Then it's
back to SOFI.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
And they just had those anymore? Did they just they
still bid?

Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, because I think I was reading Vegas is trying
to get one again, but they just had it. And
I mean it does make sense. Like we've talked about
for powerlifting nationals or other events, it makes sense. Although
there is biased, it makes sense to do it in
a cool city, especially our niche sports destination. Bro, doing
powerlifting Nationals in Las Vegas is just the biggest no

(01:40):
brainer I've ever heard. You know, like you don't want
to go fly to fucking Memphis.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
No, they had an't Memphis last year.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
I think you might got turned there we go the awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah, it just makes no sense, and so obviously the
NFL's larger scale, Like guys are going to go buy
a super Bowl ticket regardless, you know, Like I heard
a booth was like a quarter mill or something. Good
Lord and New Orleans is a party town, although disgusting there.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
I heard there's just vomit everyone.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
I'm sure, I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
During this probably just like even if the super Bowl's.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Not there, No, dude, the only time I went was
a random like March and Bourbon Street is yet gross.
Like New Orleans has some charm for sure, but like
Bourbon Street is like it's not a place.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
I wanted to hang out.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Honestly, watch a lot of the I watched a lot
of that show called uh what is it? Live Rescue?
I think it's all based in uh, Louisiana, like in
that area.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, Bourbon Street is wide.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
And they're always they're fucking doing shit.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
The it was and stabbing. It was one of the
grossest experience. Yes, smells terrible. There's not much charm to it.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
There's like these you can do like haunted tours there.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah, that kind of stuff was down for that the
history and the food and the architecture. There are some
pluses to that city for sure, But in terms of
like where all this was going down, I'm out.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, yeah, I'm out.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
No Bourbon Street for me. And I understand like if
like some people do just like to get belligerent, drunk
and feel like the wild West. Yeah, maybe the Bourbon.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Streets for you.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
You know, I think it's like Vegas where they're not
going to stop you from doing shit, you know. Yeah,
like you can't just whip out a titty in Vegas
like this is not you probably could now you could
sneak away with one, but you're gonna get if you
would get caught, You're caught. Were there? It's like encouraged
to like throw up in the drain and flash titty.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, like California here, we'd like to just let men
just have their dogs out.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Yeah, dogs out legal, No, no titty, no nip.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
The nip might be pushing it. But you can just
walk around San Francisco. They're just your Johnson hanging out.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
I see a lot of body parts. Yeah, rolling around cities?

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Is that illegal now? I remember it used to be legal?

Speaker 2 (03:39):
It's still legal? Is it still as far as illegal
legal allowed? Yeah, it was like a thing to be
dong out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
San Francisco the city exclusive.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, the seventies, the seventies one.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, yeah, I think the sixties one.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Dogs out, our sixties, Dogs out? Cali.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Who is whose girlfriend came naked to the Grammys?

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Kan Kanye Kanye? Well, she wasn't naked. She was naked, Yeah,
it's a wife Bionca And she wasn't naked per se?

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Well, I mean did you could see her vagina?

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah? But there was clothing on top, true, right, so
by definition yeah, but by definition I don't think she
was naked. Yeah, there was there was exposure.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yeah, it's as naked as you could be without being
completely naked.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
It was as exposed as you could be. Yeah, I
think it's art.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Apparently his whole Twitter thing was the test too. He
said today, my test is over.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah, but then he took that down and kept going, yeah,
my test is Shopify. The latest news is Shopify deleted them.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, I still better to get my slides.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
No, they're not coming. Shopify literally got deleted.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
It was a while ago. Hopefully they sort of shipped.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Oh dude, I bought his first twenty dollars sock slides
and it took like eight months and.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
I have mine. There's too big, but you got the socks. Yeah,
they're too big though I haven't even worn a much.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Warning we were gonna do like a deadlift skit with
them because it kind of looked like a dead shoot.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
I put them on and they were company. They're just
too Yeah, they're just too long.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
I should try mine. Yeah, I mean, I like the
twenty dollars idea. I think of school stuff on MARKA
low top ones. No, no, they're all solid rubber ones.
I'm talking the new ones. Yeah, I want the new ones.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
I got those, but I haven't got them yet I
only have the soft ones. You released a twenty dollars boot.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
So the one I got was the first one of those.
It goes up to your knee.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, I got those two.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, those are the only ones, the pods. Yeah. Anyways, Yeah,
he's done.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Speaking of done, speaking of it done. Now we're talking
about Ronnie Coleman The King, a documentary of sorts from
the people at Generation Iron.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
So it was a Generation Iron production.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah. I think all this stuff felt like one of those. Yeah,
all those were going to attack soon. I think we're
talking about doing CTWO fletchers, and I mean, sadly that's
the only production company fucking making stuff about fitness.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Yeah, I saw I saw one in there that looks terrible,
so it should be fun to watch. It wasn't from them,
but it was like some kind of a strength challenge
and Blaine Sumner is in it, and it was like,
I don't know what the fuck it was called. I
was going to write it down, and of course I didn't.
It was it was after I finished this one last night.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
This came out twenty eighteen, and a Generation Iron the
first one probably came out like twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen
when they kind of made like the Generation Iron movie,
which was they were trying to make like a modern
day Pumping Iron. Yeah, and then they yeah obviously sprouted
out and did a ton of individual films. We haven't
covered in a Generation Iron per se, haven't we No,

(06:38):
we haven't, Yeah, because actual one isn't that terrible? Like
were they going to like branch warn and somebody these
falls off the horse? Yeah, BRANH. Warren, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
I've not seen that.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, Yeah, that's like, that's that first. I think it's
the first Generation Iron.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
I throw it into that one.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Next thing. Yeah, and then obviously the Rich Pond one
we just watched. I guess that was it, but that
they even admitted they didn't really make it. They scrapped it.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, this one's not that much different than that. Honestly, really,
I thought I thought I had a lot more going on. Well,
it has more going on, but it's it's.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
I don't really get its purpose at all, but like
kind of the through line was like his surgery date.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, I wish it gave us and there was no
payoff on that at all. That's the next seas in
the next movie.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, maybe I don't know, but even having a through line,
to me is way more elevated than what happened to
Rich Piana's right, Like, this had the through line of
they started out a childhood, They had the timeline chronologically,
and then they had the timeline of how many surgeries
in the current pain, which is like a very common
obviously documentary when you're covering someone who's still alive, you'll
do like what's very current in the obstaclet or chasing,

(07:40):
plus the whole chronological uh chronological of like playing football,
playing sports, becoming a cop, how long he was a cop?
Dug into his kids a little bit. We're like, Rich,
you got zero. Yeah, Like there wasn't even formatted.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah, I just I don't know. I mean, it just
didn't have a ton of impact, I think, is the deal.
I Mean, maybe the most interesting fact that came out
of it to me was that his his back injuries
started before he ever started bodybuilding.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, he said he's had it since he was like
he's fifteen.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah kind of. And then he talks about like a
disc during those front squads. But there's just there's just
no way whatever he is going through is just a
disc bursting. No, there's a lot like like how he
walked and shaped was like the scariest, saddest thing I've
ever seen.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
So he was literally walking like, uh, what's his name
from Penguin?

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Yeah, well yeah, we're like like like a palsy or
something like. It was so bad like when.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
He didn't have his when he didn't have his crutches
and he was walking through that hall and he was
like from the shot from the back like, oh, he's
walking literally like exactly like the penguin. Yeah, when he's
going side to side like almost hit in the walls.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
There's a scene where he goes upstairs and into his room.
I mean there's multiple scenes with that one in particular,
and they shot the entire thing, didn't edit it, and
then had him micd up through the whole thing. Yeah.
I just like that was just so painful to watch,
like walking, Yeah, he was like yeah, and just like
you know how much pain he was in. And then

(09:08):
he just like sits down on the first thing to
sit down and just like looks around. I'm like, dude,
this guy's gotta be and he admits it. You know,
they ask him like pain scale one to ten. He's like, yeah,
pretty much a nine or ten. And I don't think
you just say that casually.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
He said like eleven, twelve, thirteen at certain point.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he said at events when he has
to stand all day, like, I don't know, man, it
was pretty sad, but I do think it was much better,
like there's a plan. Like again, it's not one of
my favorite documentaries, but there was definitely a plan where
a lot of the other stuff we watched what we
watched Piana Oh and Brian Johnson, even Brian Johnson just
felt like an ad like there wasn't like a real

(09:44):
story to like, oh, he was having harder conditions when
he was younger, and then he wants to live forever,
like you don't know why you want to live forever
besides his ego? Where this one? Although I wish they
would have asked Ronnie directly, which they didn't, I think
there was a lot of good insight from guys like
Jay Cutler, who he was like competitive and close to,
and and and how in Flex Wheeler. How they explained

(10:06):
Ronnie I actually thought was interesting because he he he
he didn't have like a Michael Jordan Kobe like mentality.
But then like he kind of did like he like
he he he wasn't gonna get beat and he would
do anything to take to win. But then he wasn't
like a dog really like I don't know he was.
It's interesting. And then how he talks is so happy,

(10:28):
go lucky, like you've never really seen him mad. Yeah,
he's always kind of just like, you know, dumb, hitaly
dumb dumb, you know, kind of floating through life like
he's insanely positive in that manner where where a lot
of times when you connect really high level competitiveness, you know,
ray Lewis, whoever it might be, they're like kind of

(10:50):
negative in a sense, you know, like a lot of
Kobe interviews are kind of like stoic and negative.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, it's like you just like stuck it out until
it's his turn.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, I guess he did not do well at first
the first like three four five shows. He just like
he climbed eventually, but he was in the bottom of
his first at least for his first show for sure.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
First Olympia for show for show, because I thought they
were talking about Olympia a lot when he was getting
like fifth and ninth.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah, I no, I think that's true too.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
He was like every year he got like a couple
spots higher higher. I guess that's what kept him going.
He never really went backwards.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah, no, till till till he was done and should
have been done and walk away. I think probably the
most insightful thing in the whole and the whole thing
that that any of the of the other personality said
was when Cutler said he just got too big. He
just got too big, and he just like the world
turned on that. But he got too big.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
I mean, like you saw him in college. He was
fucking jacked. Yeah, he was fucking jacked his whole life.
And a lot of those guys are like the rumor
still is a kygreen turned pro natty. Yeah, that's the
that he turned, you know. And there's pictures him nineteen.
He looks fucking insane.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah. Of all the the bodybuilding celebrities and in this thing,
I think I've only met two of them. I think
I met well obviously met flex and and Jake Cutler.
Jake Keler sounds exactly like that all the time.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
He's another color once.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
He's another positive figure in the sport. You know, you
don't really see him like getting negative or anything like that.
That era is kind of crazy, Like I I probably
followed it more then because I was watching like the random,
you know, vlog style videos of Ronnie. I guess I
followed like right after right because Ronnie like retired in
like six o seven, and I didn't get into this
stuff until like eight oh nine when I was out

(12:45):
of high school and basketball was like floating away.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
And those videos were still very prominent.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
But that's why. Yeah, So it was like it was
there was like the videos might even just been coming
out at that time kind of thing. So I watched
a lot of those. But they they even mentioned it too,
like how are studded that era is that they're all
like Olympia winners, like top one through five in any
other day, And I wonder if that's their biased you
know what I mean, because like that's the same bias

(13:10):
that happens in basketball talk all the time, Like, oh,
if Larry was you know, around now, he'd be shitting
on you. And then all the new kids say, Larry Bird,
you know, the plumber or whatever. You know, they'll make
all these dumb jokes. But I wonder if the sport
hasn't changed as much as other sports, right, because like
the guy, it's not like basketball has just changed. Man,
in fucking nineteen sixty you can't compare eras they couldn't

(13:32):
dribble at their left hand, right, and then like what
Kyrie Irving does with the ball literally looks like magic
to that, right, Like if you if you plant Kyrie
Irving back in nineteen fifties basketball, they're on a witch
hunt to wonder like what this wizard's doing. You know,
it's just so would killed him, right, He's just so
different what he can fucking do, So you can't really compare.
And that's what you know. I have a grudge against
these new zoomers who just don't show love for that

(13:54):
and not even going rents all the time, like they
had to blaze the trail, you know, like they had
to be that way because no one else was like that.
They're elevated, but bodybuilding hasn't seemed quite to get that
from the Ronnie era to now. It's not like guys
are four hundred pounds and extra extra shredded.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Yeah, you know, it's almost like, if anything, the interest
has shifted to more like the sea bone class for sure,
like the freak giant bodies is like it never. I
feel like I'll probably never really recovered from the Cutler rain.
And then I guess who's after color? Who's color? And
I wasn't film Will and Cutler banging it out together.

(14:31):
Then that was kind of the end of that.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, Phil, Phil was kind of the last one people
cared about, at least a guy. Now. Yeah, see, maybe
I'm just out of touch. That's what I was wondering,
if I'm out of touch or if no one cares
because I was.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Never into it though when I knew who those guys were,
you know what I mean, Like, I didn't follow it.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah right, dude, outside the door, you're just fantasizing going
to the Arnold again as a lone puppy.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
You're a beatthead at heart, that's true.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
But I didn't follow track, you know, like, oh, who's
doing what? And what's who was the Pittsburgh Pro And
I mean like so and I know those guys, Yeah
it was a big deal, right, So it's like, yeah,
I don't know who's.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
A big deal. Yeah, I do wonder because physical seabumb
though physique came first. You know, I don't know, maybe
twenty fifteen, sixteen seventeen the board shorts and that got
really popular. And then I think literally the IFBB by
making Classic Bodybuilding, which Sea Bumps dominated, they basically admitted
to the world that pro bodybuilding is two jacked right,

(15:25):
Otherwise they wouldn't make a category called classic bodybuilding. And
I do agree with you, like Phil still looked really insane.
Dexter Jackson, I think one to one after Phil, and
Dexter's always been smaller and very symmetrical. I think he
literally won an oh after Phil. Ronnie obviously is very
symmetrical for how big he was. He was the first,

(15:45):
you know, like three hundred pounder on stage. I guess
he evolved it in some senses because I think all
the guys like Minimum got to be like two eighty
three bills on stage now, so you know they call
him the mass monsters or whatever.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Is this the guy?

Speaker 2 (15:58):
This is your Yeah, Samson. Samson's a freak. He's been
around a long time though. He probably just as yeah
starting to peak. Yeah, Sampson's and he looks good. Yeah,
don't look crazy. Yeah, I don't want to look like that.
The issues is when like their lats like mesh into
your quads. You know, like this just literally they're so
jacked the insertion and maybe it's genetics, you know, where

(16:19):
the insertion of the lats so deep in the hip
and your hip and your quad insertions so deep into
your hip that you just look like a blob.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yeah, but he looks good. Yeah, I know he's got
the she's got the taper waist and you know, giant clods.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, I mean I guess, Yeah, waist is a little thick.
If you want to compare him to like a really
young Ronnie or obviously Arnold.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Ronnie's got looked like absurd.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah. I mean, even when he's like changing or getting
medical stuff at his age, he's all jacked. He's like shredded.
They like lift his shirt to put like a node
on his chest or something. I don't know what they're doing,
but it is his six backs like clearly still visible.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Oh yeah, you're like, what the fuck.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Is going on?

Speaker 1 (16:58):
He's probably still eats pretty good.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
I think he's just I don't know, bro, he's slamming
down sausage every morning, a fucking eye hop the pancakes.
That was yeah, but he always I mean, that's that
was like some of the cool parts. And I still
get like a weird genetics or genetics, yeah, and nostalgia
of like, bro, you'd eat like a whole plate of
French fries and then like a whole plate of chicken
breast and those old unders and he just slam them

(17:20):
down with Yeah, hell of barbecue, sauce, vegetables. But three
three hundred pounds. Yeah, and he's a cop. Ye, Like
he's probably walking around all day, he's doing ship all day.
It's not like he's just like.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
And I bet you, honestly, I bet you him being
a cop is might we also have been have led
to his back.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Problems for sure.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
It's like you're busting your ass all fucking day in
the gym and then you go sit in a squad
car for twelve hours.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
I'm sure it.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Didn't help the last thing you should be doing, even
like the meetings he's in, Like life fucks up right,
he's three hundred pounds, Like he can't sit in a
fucking normal chair, you know, Like how uncomfortable. You know.
The old videos are so iconic. I wish that would
have showed a little bit more. They showed obviously clips
of the old stuff, but like he'd pull up in
like a big ass hummer. That's when I first thought

(18:09):
hummers were cool. I mean it was kind of the era,
you know, like it was the DMX jay z era
and he's just thumping DMX, just doing fucking lunches with
three fifteen and shit, like he just didn't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
How sick was his home gym?

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, it was crazy.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
That was the best part of that house he was
in his house was that Jack Leicester for those numbers
he was thrown out about his sepon in line. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, that that second gym and houses is in like
the second or third documentary. And he started training there
more when he was at home after he had already
won the O, which I think even at the time
was crazier. It was like half a mill, right, and
so half a mill in the nineties versus maybe they
win a meal now I don't know what they win.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Their house just seemed pretty modest.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
It was.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
It wasn't crazy, It wasn't crazy. Well, here's the thing.
If I had his problems, I would not live in
a house that had stairs.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah, he said he's been there forever.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Just sell it.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Bro I was thinking about that, I was like, yeah,
he did get a one story, Yeah we.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
Get a big what are we doing rambling ranch? And
you know, don't worry about.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Why do all these bodybuilder types always have like the
same shitty, weird gothic style bedroom. They always got like
these like weird like attle, It's always gothic, It's always
a weird point.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
I don't know if Ronnie did his, because he does
seem What I do like about Ronnie is he's he
seems like not the bodybuilder type. Like mentally, yeah, he
isn't in terms of like monotony a little bit, and
you know, like you could see that like no offense.
He's kind of boring, but you kind of have to
be but smart apparently, Yeah, yeah, I don't think he's stupid.
I mean he's smart. Yeah, I mean I don't know.

(19:41):
I'm I have a lot of hate on our education
system in general. You know, just because he get a's
doesn't mean that to me, you're fucking brilliant.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Well it's yeah, sure, but then he's got you know,
twenty million dollar company. No for sure, for sure, top
of it.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
He carried it into the real world.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
But he was the first to do it too, and
he was like, we said, bro, he's on every magazine, Like,
if you can't make money, yeah, and you're the most
famous fitness person on the planet, then I think you're Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Yeah, no, for sure. I mean, you know the Olympia
eight times and you're not making money.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, you're an idiot. I do think that he has
a will and an effort, right, and you know, sure,
when you get into a PhD or something, you got
to be able to put some stuff together. But it's
also having a four point zero and eighth grade, man,
just means you're putting a lot of effort in. Yeah,
you know what I mean. It doesn't mean that you're
some savant. I mean even junior college, Bro, I fucking

(20:30):
didn't study where shit out of three eight, you know,
And I'm no fucking savant either.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
He has a lot of kids, though, so maybe a
lot of a lot of ALI money going out there.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
There's a lot yeah, seven maybe total.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
They didn't really detail the whole Two of them are
me Mike's age almost yeah yeah. And then from then
he's got you know, and then this came out in
twenty eighteen, probably shot in twenty seventeen.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Oh yeah, so there are our age exactly.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
I thought he was gonna talk about Vicky Vallencoll when
he was talking. It's the same accent. Is he from Louisiana?
Is that what he said? He's from Louisiana. For those
that don't know, the younger generation water Boy, Adam Sandler's
lover was Vicky Valancourt, and Ronnie has the same accent.
He's talking about his first wife named Vicky.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
I've always had this weird crush on Vicky.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Vicky Ugourt's a fucking babe. Yeah, she can fuck me
up on.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
That long coor that little special water she's got.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, just his accent. Why is it there's a certain
era of the nineties, bro, every fucking stud is from
like Alabama, Louisiana.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Well, dude, because it's just different out there.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Dude, Like like obviously Muhammad Ali, like the Louisville slugger,
he has an accent that sounds like that. Scottie Pippens
from that area. I think he's from Arkansas. Charles Barkley,
I think is from Bama and he talks crazy Gambit
Gambit is also from there. Gambit is from Yeah, Gambit
is uh. But he he's kind of on the B team, really,

(22:01):
if we're gonna break it down, he's not like a star.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Yeah, gam, it's always the forefront of the of the cartoon.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
No, no, you got s you got fucking Cyclops, you
got Wolverine, and the game is like kind of back
left shoulder, old shoulders in his deck.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Did you guys watch the X Men reboot show? It's
so fucking good.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
That the New Spider Man is really good too.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yeah, that one's good. The X Men's ten times better though.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
His accents of steaks, his accents so good in the
original cartoon.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
And it's fucking hysterical in.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
A deadpooll, dead pull and Wolverine.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Yeah, yeah, not bad. I don't know. I love that
accent of all of them, just kind of they kind
of like sing when they talk, you know, Yeah, I
like it. Yeah, uhy. Vicky val.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
I probably two thousand and four, two thousand and five
was the first Arnold that I went to, and when
I I was on the way home, like getting on
the plane because we flew through Dallas, which obviously you
do if you're like flying American or whatever as American
or United one of those big ones. Yeah, fls tough
Dallas and Ronnie Coleman was in first class. He was

(23:16):
not a year that he competed, and he was, you know,
sitting I guess there were sort of two seats together
instead of three. He was sitting on the aisle and
like from his nipple on was out in the aisle.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
He's just so huge. I mean if he's three hundred
on stage, yeah, you know off season. Yeah, he's probably
three point thirty. And he's tall, but he's not that tall,
you know, like he was tall for the time, but
that's because fucking Jay Cutler's five six Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, I mean the yeah, the Runnie we saw last year. Yeah,
looked like me sitting on this Yeah, look like this.
They looked like we sitting in this chair.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
He's probably five seven, five eight, but I mean they
probably just ripped are ripping discs.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Oh he's all just completely squished. Yeah, he's all ye
kind of like he was even smaller Skully in the documentary.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, by a lot.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Yeah. It was interesting to see him training with Jason
English Big J.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, shout out our boy big J. He actually literally
commented on my Instagram this morning is so crazy I
think that has the rustic Jim. No, so the owner
was Dobson. Yeah, the owners Dobson, but like the gray
goatee training part of his Big J, I think a
long time friend. Long they see they don't even like
introduce him. I think they should call him like training partner.

(24:39):
But I think Big J grew up in that world,
was friends with Ronnie for a very long time, and
kind of training partners after that Dobson, but he was
kind of one of the older cats that hopped onto
YouTube early. So Big J did YouTube in like twenty eleven,
twenty twelve, and so we've crossed past a million times.
Podcasts of a million times. One of them really talk
about positive. Big J's like sanely positive kind guy but

(25:02):
from I think the Arlington, Dallas area, and still lives
down there, so I think he's still Yeah, trains with
him every day. Yeah, it's cool those cool ast he'd
be J in there.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
Yeah. It's hard to know what else to say about
this thing because it's like a it's like an unfolding
tragedy with no end.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Yeah, it is sad there's no because yeah, do you
expect like a win at the end. Yeah, like he.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Comes out of surgery and he's good, or yeah, it's
six months later and he's walking without, you know, braces
or whatever. I would say that it's smart that he
had a set at the top of the stairs and
set at the bottom of the stairs, but not the
smartest moving out of that fucking house.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, they're getting an elevator or something.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yeah, or yeah, one of those little like stair elevators.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
They've sit on. We got a weight capacity issue the Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
He's not very big.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Well, I bet you, I bet you. He's still like
two twenty. Do you see him again, whether put the
note on his chest or whatever. His abs are fucking
half this brick wall, Like he's still fucking brick Yeah,
you know, like he's just different. And like when he
was a kid, bro, he looked like a bad motherfucker.
He had that fucking dope mustache and his arms were
fucking giant. He's like, yeah, he kind of played football.
He said he sucked the powerlifting because he squatted four

(26:12):
hundred or something.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Over the years, having had a YouTube channel for a
long time with powerlifting or whatever and covering Stan Efforting
and some of the other folks along the way, Everyone
wants to talk about the fact that Ronnie squatted eight
hundred for two reps, but they never talk about the
fact that he was wearing a single play squad suit

(26:44):
and he was not any we're close to depth.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
The second rep is like you can maybe make an
argument for yeah, the first rep you can't.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Well, he's clearly strong, you know because even when he's deadlifting,
he's doing like a set of five and he's got
like try to do the math with these old ass
restu plays. It's over seven thirty. You know, Like he's
clearly strong, and that is what made him popular, right
Like like guys stopped lifting heavy, you know, like Ky
Green in particular, who is a little bit later, but
even Jay Cutler in them Jay lift a little bit,
but you know they'd be doing like three fifteen on

(27:14):
everything and they kind of stop there. You know, Like
there was more trends in bodybuilding than there are now,
Like everyone went to machines and then everyone and now
we're kind of like kind of like fashion where like
everything kind of goes you know, you can find your
niche now anywhere. But back then it was really strong,
and so I think when Ronnie was coming up or
like when he was even king, a lot of the guys, yeah,

(27:36):
were like machine bros.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Sam Soul looks like the modern day Ronnie Coleman.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah kind of. Yeah, he is like the old school,
like still squat and shows the seabump. Sea Bump doesn't
get the love he deserves. But that fool will be
like front Squad and four hundred.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Yeah, and he'll do He'll just be racking up like
a barbell with like forty five doing like like just
free over it presses.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
You know. I haven't cross with him yet, but like
he he definitely seems like the good neutral in the space.
And again, like a lot of bodybuilders like are kind
of like boring, you know, no offense, Sea Bum buddy,
but like I think it has to be built in
your personality because powerlifters are the same, right, Like all
the top guys we've interviewed over you know, over a
decade are like there's something in him that's a little
bit boring because the sport is boring. So you have

(28:20):
to like kind of enjoy this, you know, monotony in
this thing. And it's like literally the most like static
sport ever, you know, because like basketball, you're talking shit,
and you're doing all this stuff, like the energy and
the humans different even like mixed martial artists. A lot
of the times you think they're all zen or whatever,
but I even just shut them up with Renado and
bart I trend with them this week on Renato's like

(28:42):
top three jiu jitsu practitioners in the world in his
weight class, and he's like happy, go lucky, laughing, cracking jokes.
But it's because like he's a killer on the inside.
You know. We're like bodybuilders aren't killers, so they kind
of like the personality kind of flip flops where they
are kind of like boring and have serial killer vibes,
although they're not a lot of bodybuilders very nice, but
then they just lift this monotony ass shit. But in

(29:03):
terms of training itself, I think Seabum is like a
really good neutral of how to do things, you know,
because he trains heavy, doesn't go too heavy. He doesn't
do anything like too extreme or too stupid, where guys
will find a niche or a gimmick obviously to get likes,
you know, like I only do machines or I only
do there's even like an old bend pack Bemakolsky was

(29:24):
kind of on to come up a couple of years
ago and bodybuilding, and it's like a whack YouTube thing
and they try to make him look like Drago, you know,
they have wires all over him when he trains only
and he only does machines and it's.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Got a full arm of what bands.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah, literally, it was like that. I was like, I
don't know if he actually trains that way or not,
or they're just trying to like, you know, they're trying
to brand him that way. Yeah, like a Drago. Yeah. Literally,
it was weird. It was weird. Yeah, like the science guy.
You know. But this is before science, I guess was
cool or prominent and lifting it I think it is
in lifting. I definitely think like that's where because because

(30:02):
people don't understand what science is and they still whether
we're talking politics or fitness. Science is a very misunderstood concept,
I think, you know, because people say like, oh, well,
it's in science, and then they think that means it's fact,
which it's not. That's not how science works, right, It's
about a procedure of how we deduct some reasoning from
what we're doing. And so I think it is I

(30:22):
think everyone I follow on Instagram is always like, well,
the science of this and the science of that. Yeah,
you don't see that.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
I don't really pay attention to it. I don't think.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
I think.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
I'm like, yeah, I just don't really, I don't know.
I don't see those ARGUMENT don't really weightlifting too, I'm
not really looking at that stuff.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah, weightlifting, CrossFit, Yeah, I know what you're looking at.
I'll expose you, buddy, he said his Discovery page.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Mike's been getting my wrath.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Yeah, I was sick.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
I was just sending Mike the most ratchet.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
And are just down down in the depths of the internet.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Yeah. Sure, my algorithm is pretty fry.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Just brain rotten now, just brain rutting away. But yeah,
I don't know what I say.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
True.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Oh, I was gonna say, like crossfiting, Uh, weightlifting seem
like kind of ones that haven't like talked about science
are evolved now. It's like a community.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
No, it's really they're both kind of vibes based, are
you know what I mean? There's five based sports.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
They gotta are like weightlifters kind of are the hippie
surfers of fitness.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yeah, there's really not much like you can convince an
old weightlifting coach about like science and they tried that
that that those people came and gone already from the sport.
Yeah you know what I mean, like the super science
based coaches. It's like just like old school is going
to always win when it comes to weightlifting because it's
just so there's only two lifts. There's only like there's

(31:49):
only so many ways to get better those lifts, and
it's just doing them all the time.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
I would hypothesize that the science actually started it and
that's why it can't come back, right, Like the guys
are really made way lifting like good and popular were
like the old school Russians and Bulgarians who were very
like educated on they were already like a good.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Science, That's what I mean.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Like it wasn't like we're bodybuildings like oh I just
feel it, well, I don't know feeling it's gonna get
you there, you know, or like I E. Eight hundred
grams of protein, well I don't know about that.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
It's better than conning.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Yeah, yeah, we're like weightlifting was like born in a
lab in a sense because the Russians were all over
there like they were the first exercise scientists on the planet.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, you look at those old like Russian uh manuals
that like everybody has.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Yeah, they're insane.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
They're all super detailed for sure, of like science based
in the Chinese, and that's how they all start. Yeah,
I guess you're right. That's a way to look at it.
That's how it all started, and that's how it was
kind of never really needed to go anywherewhere else from there, because.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
If someone tries to do it now, it's like do
we already know that?

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah, that's probably written.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah, I think thirty powerlifting bodybuilding will get there soon. Now,
Like most powerlifters ninety percent trained the same way. Now
we're like ten years ago everyone trained a billion different
ways and had their own random mass hypothesis and what
would get them strong. But now like everyone kind of
has a general concept and a lot of it is
based on some Russian shit.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
So one of the elephants in the room in this,
in this documentary and in real life before this is
the fact that he was a cop and yet clearly
clearly on steroids. Yeah, like there's no way he wasn't.
Like he obviously he trained his ass off all the
time and that's that's the given, that's the baseline. You're
not gonna you're not going to compete in in bodybuilding

(33:24):
if you don't you know, you don't train for it.
But at the same time, how do you reconcile those things?

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Yeah, man, I just don't think they drug test.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yeah, I was gona say, it's pbably department by department, right,
And I know we only lived in Florida in Dallas,
although they showed footage from Florida, I'm almost sure, but
they never like talked about it. Yeah, he always talked
about being on the same being a cop for ten
years or whatever, but he I think he was with
two different departments at some point because I know we
lived in Florida, and I thought that exercise room was
in Florida. But it could be a mis memory on
my part. So obviously lived in Texas and Florida, which again, yeah,

(33:58):
you know, who knows, but chances are they're probably testing
for weed and cocaine and just ignore that.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
I think, like I think the way that that ship works,
I was like, dude, you get drug tested like when
you get hired, and like that's kind of it.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Yeah, military has always said the same thing.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
All of those cops had that. You know, there's a
lot of cops had party.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
I know.

Speaker 1 (34:16):
Also, like there's probably every cop under the sun is
probably on TRT at some point too. Yeah, it's like
get like a you know subscription. Oh he's on TRT.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
You know that. Yeah, nowadays for sure, but back then
it would steroids were a.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Lot more taboo.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah, we're you know, Gemini's personal experience and just friends forever.
Because military guys policemen often find their way into powerlifting
a bodybuilding. You know, it's just like kind of a
natural thing, and so many people would always tell us like, oh,
I can't be on anything because I get tested here
at this job or this job. I'm like, I don't
know if you do. I think they just started to
use it as an escape to either claim natty when

(34:51):
they were on, or a mental morality thing to argue
why they shouldn't get on because yeah, like I don't know, man,
I've never been in the military, and my family's all immigrants,
so we don't have like, you know, everyone's got like
an uncle that was a fucking sniper or some shit.
I don't have any of the actual immigrants, but I'd
imagine if I'm running a platoon, I want my dude's

(35:12):
juice to the gills, Like I want you raging out
and as fit as possible, right, Like it's not you know,
Captain America is our fucking American superhero who got the seerum? Like,
why don't I want my whole platoon with a fucking serum?

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Yeah, i'd say that he was eating one thousand grams
of carbs a day.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
I believe it. Bro to he used to do a
full baking trait of French fries and just get a
fork full.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
That sounds so good right now, or like the iye hop.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Bro First he's eating sausage and then like all of
a sudden, there's a whole like two other plates in front.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Of them, two other plates of pacag ude, a full.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Thing of pancakes at fucking I hop what's the cirrus?
What's that? That's probably three hundred carbs, Yeah, that's true,
maybe more.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Yeah, it's said anywhere from uh yeah said average six hundred,
anyway from one hundred to one thousand, depending on a
cut or whatever.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:58):
So this is the Last to Die documentary. Probably won't
maybe not be another one from twenty eighteen. So there's
the first training video in ninety eight, two thousand, The
Unbelievable two thousand and three, The Cost of Redemption Number
two thousand and six, Relentless two thousand and eight, Invincible,

(36:20):
Hell of Movies on. He'd been vinced. But by that
point though, in two thousand and nine, the last training video.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
He lost to No. Six, I think it said two Cutler.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yeah, No, that was later.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
I thought, I don't know. I thought it was it no,
because I think his first win was like ninety six, right,
and so if he won eight, I.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Guess right, their second. Yeah, that's where it all started.
After the two thousand and five Yeah, all right there,
two thousand and six, Yeah, second, that was it. You're
right in the No.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Seven. How funny is it? Like he was like still
a multimillionaires so big, but like in high school, I
never heard of him and I lifted weights.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Arnold you just knew Arnold, Yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Knew Arnold only and she like really dig in.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
He obviously said a few things that are now in
the culture, and some people just don't have any idea
where they come from. The yeah, buddy, oh yeaheah, yeah,
ain't nothing but a peanut.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
We talked about going overseas was a kay green. Yeah,
he said, like they couldn't even speak my language above.
I said, yeah, buddy, they're laughing and they're about it.
It's just pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Yeah, not surprising he was. He was five eleven before
the shrink started.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Sounds about right.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
That sounds about right.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
And again, if you know the average guy, the Dexter Jackson's,
the Jay Cutler's Ky Green. Yeah, they're five to seven. Yeah,
a lot of them are five to seven. And that's
what kind of changed with the classic body building too,
because I think Arnold was five eleven six foot so
then like you get sea Bomb at six one, it
just makes your frame look a little bit different.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
You know, you got to get so big you have
three pounds.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yeah, and what's what's fucking seabomb on stage to forty
to thirty?

Speaker 3 (37:50):
No clue?

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Yeah, I think he's like two thirty, right, So that
is like the more classic, like the Zaane the fucking yeah,
the Mike Metzger type.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Look, I mean he'd be probably a pretty shitty cough.
I mean you just run away from him. Yeah, he's
not gonna catch you.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
He's i don't know.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
I don't know, bro, Dude, he's not going anywhere. He's
just gonna be legs chafing together.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
And you would do like sets of like twenty each
leg two twenty five lunges on your back like that
gets your lungs going. I bet you he had more
gas than.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
You dig probably yeah, probably like six inch squads.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
He was starting a fire in his pants.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Could only pump so much oxygen to those muscles.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Yeah, but it's different than like powerlifters and weightlifters, where
we just ignore cardio, like they couldn't ignore cardio, like
they had to get shredded, like bodybuilders in general. Like
I don't know, I don't know. I'd probably rather run
away from like no offense, buddy, But Dan Bell, you know,
the best powerlift in the world right now than run
away from Ronnie Like Dan hasn't gone for a walk.
You know that dude, squat's twelve hundred pounds and that's it.

(38:51):
That's what he doesn't really good or Tom callous when
he's fat, Like I would definitely rather run away, even
though shout out Tom got jack out of his brains
right now, he looks insane, but fat short legs though. Yeah,
little hobbit Tom, I'm running away from that dude a
hundred times Before'm running away from Ronnie. Ronny play college
football too. Yeah, I'm surprised they didn't talk like he
didn't go anywhere with that, Like there's no way. Maybe

(39:13):
that's the dog in him and he didn't have I left.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
How Also, just back then, it was so common for
people to have these crazy degrees just working in fast food.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Yeah. Yeah, he couldn't get a job. I mean that's
now too, probably racy.

Speaker 3 (39:24):
That's now he went to Grambling, his degrees from Grambling.
That may have had something to do with it. Yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
I think it's common now though. Really, how many homies
we have, like in fucking seven to twenty fifteen, went
to college, got a degree, he can't get a job.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Well, most of my friends have these fucking the stupidest
fucking degrees. You can ever imagine two hundred three thousand
dollars in debt and then they're working at for the
state and it's like, what do you what?

Speaker 2 (39:50):
And that's probably because they tried to go get other
jobs and couldn't in the state's a place at hires.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yeah, well, I have a friend that has like a
fucking art degree that he paid like six figures for
and I'm like, yeah, dude, I don't feel bad for
you at all. You're a fucking moron.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
We we can, we could really go down the rabbit
hole on the issue of what kinds of degrees that
people should be offered by universities, because I think that
we could probably cut some of those. And just like
I don't know why. I mean, I'm going to piss
off the audience right now, but I don't understand kinesiology degrees.

(40:23):
I don't understand at all, Like.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
What's kind of We don't have good exercise degrees?

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Yeah, like the what kind of job do you think
you're going to get with that?

Speaker 2 (40:30):
You're a pe teacher? Yeah, which is important, but I
guess that's about it.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
You definitely have to have that TP.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
It's the first it's like the only step to get
into like yeah, strength conditioning, it's the only step to
get into. Like I just want to see that physical
trainers or or or undergrad for like physical therapy. But
why not. I Mean, the whole degree system is fucked
and we've talked about it forever, like They're like, all
four year degrees are just kind of stupid because they're
actually need to we just need.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
To modernize with the rest of the world and cut
out all the bulls.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Yeah, they're not specialized enough. A four year degree is
actually a two year degree because two years is general
you're repeating high school, and then two years you're doing
what your job is. That's why your last.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Two years of high school should be that general education.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Right and then and then like, yeah, have like a
real three year degree that it's specialized. Oh, he's going
to be a strength conditioning coach. He's going to be
a physical therapist. He's gonna be whatever or more years.
Trade school, yeah, trade school for like yeah, it all's
just makes no sense even him. Right, he's in there.
What was he taking business or management, marketing or something like? Well,

(41:32):
you're real good with math. I'm real good with math,
so I can marry Vicky Vallen call.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Accounting just the accents, bro, Now, mama, brush your hat.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Having thing is a devil to you.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
Mama.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
Oh, mister Sandler, such a good movie. I was watching,
uh watch McCall for the first time ever. A beautiful mind.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Oh to that movie is crazy.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Yeah, crazy. Is that in the Louisiana too, No, that's Princeton,
New Jersey, Massachusetts. Yeah, I don't know, random, I mean
he went everywhere mt I or m I T. Yeah,
I don't know why I watched it because I'm down
the bitcoin rabbit hole, you know, and he's he's mentioned
many times see like event to game theory.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Yeah, so I don't know what. I don't know really, Yeah,
I guess the point besides like his like downfall.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
Is like this whole namentory. Yeah, maybe to try to
wrap it up. But yeah, it did seem kind of
like like whatever they call it, like torture porn, Like
you just wanted to like see him like in pain.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
It definitely had a torture porn feeling to it, like
especially since there's no there's no redemption at the end.
And I guess I'm reading the Wikipedia like he's just
in a wheelchair.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Yeah, like I think he was when we saw him,
was just rolling.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
No, he was in a wheelchair.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Yeah, and that was last year or last spring.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Yeah, last spring. He looked like he weighed probably like
a buck eighty five.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yeah maybe, yeah, maybe.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Like his arm were not like his arms were skinny.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
He was there with this company.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
He's out there fucking grinding. He was grinding as his
booth there was there was the only line for anything
at that entire event without that booth.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
But then, yeah, but then what do you call it too,
you know, health and money, like when you stopped touring.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
Yeah, I don't know. That's a really good question.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
VI.

Speaker 3 (43:19):
Yeah, we think about it in terms of the way
the other guys were talking about how whatever they did,
he just fucking won, and he would he would go
into the lymp with the expectation he was going to
win kind of regardless of how he looked. And you
think about how that's an ego thing for sure that

(43:39):
it's like, oh, I can this is what I'm doing,
and this is what I'm known for, and I'm going
to win because I showed up kind of and I
mean not with not necessarily with that level of entitlement,
but whatever. You know, it's like, this is this is
kind of what I'm about. And I think that the
the touring and the doing, the doing exposed and stuff

(44:00):
like that, it's like, well, this is who I am.
Like if I don't do this, so what I'm gonna do?
What am I gonna do the identity.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Most athletes go through it because the sport stops you
from playing right, Like every major sport, either you're gonna
get injured and stop, or there's gonna be a coach
that tells you you're not good enough at some point,
whether that be eighth grade, varsity level college, or pro.
At some point you're done and they tell you that.
And so then when you like bounce around, the jobs
are so varied, right, Like you end up announcing like

(44:28):
Tom Brady or something, right, but that's such a different job,
Like your identity isn't tied into that stuff. He wanted
to still be a part of the sport where Ronnie's
like identity might be so tied and no one tells
you to stop powerlifting your body building, Yeah you too,
Like yeah you could not win, but you can still
keep going. He could have got prep, probably could have
got top five for another five years if he wanted
to when it could go. And so then maybe maybe

(44:50):
he hasn't like crossed that bridge of this aint, you know,
next chapter, like just go do some just go do
something fucking else, like go fucking golf for like, do
you fucking anything, you know, do you think he's.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
Paying for these surgeries like out of pocket or do
you think these are all through insurance?

Speaker 3 (45:06):
Oh, that's a really good question.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
I mean I would assume maybe he's got like maybe
his company's like a corporation that he's an employee of,
so he gets insurance maybe.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
But I mean also, he said his company did like
twenty mil in the third year, so he might have
the cash for it.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
Possibly. You know, there's a huge difference between how much money.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
You Yeah, for sure, margins can, but supplement margins are
pretty damn good. Yeah, Tip, you're making twenty MILLI you're
probably doing decent. Typically, Yeah, they're making any He had
money before. I mean every I think every Olympia is
half a mill to a meal. Imagine the people that
sponsored him before. That's half a mill to a mill.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
Ten year, he had like a ten year career of
being an athlete where he made multiple millions.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
He made money. He made enough money in that career
where he's done. If handled correctly, he would never have
to do anything ever again. At alt have stopped now.
He could have handled it okay and would be retired,
you know what I mean. Yeah, Yeah, if he handled
that money even seons some accountant, so he knows how
to work with money.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
But that's probably why he lives in the house you're
making fun of.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Yeah, he's probably like I don't got a house payment?

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Yeah, probably, who knows. Yeah, he doesn't talk about investments
and ship, but maybe he has something if he really was.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
I feel they might have, she might have. I could
be making this up entirely, but I feel like there
was a point mentioned where someone said the house was
paid off.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Yeah. Yeah, oh he paid cash for you after his
second Olympia. Yeah, okay, one over his first one. Yeah,
it cost bro in nineteen eighty six. If that's in Dallas,
that house cost one hundred k or less. Yeah, literally
less than a hundred k. And I think at the
point Olympia made half a mill.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
I like how the house is also just a complete mess.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Bro, You got fucking kids everywhere? You got eight kids.
I ain't cleaning my house if I got eight.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Kiss His new youngest kids were cute.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Yeah, they're funny, they were cute kids.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
They did I know that age. Man, he's not wrong.
They just don't stop. Yeah, they just don't stop. They
just don't stop. And he's just trying his best to
keep up with his little crushes.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
He does seem happy though pushing them. He does seem
happy around his kids, and that's what you know. His
wife even said that they both just love kids, so
they just kept that.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
He's also just you know, he's also takes five oxy
thirty milligram OxyS.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Yeah, he was not he was not timid about the use.
That was interesting. He said about the sest one.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Yeah, they gave me these oxy cars thirty milligrams. I
take about five a day.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
It's the highest.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Huh. Took one of those. They would to move, we
have to.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
We'd have a panic, bro and then cut seed. He's
driving no seat belt with his kids on his cards.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Fucking crack down, druck down.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
Oh god, yeah, Ronnie texas living all right.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
We should probably weigh in on this one.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Side note really quick after this turned off, it's just
playing this Jake the Snake documentary that was on there.
Oh yeah, that's what started. And it was the darkest
fucking thing was out. Dude. I had to turn it off.
I was like, dude, this is way too fucking sad.
I got to turn this off.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
You guys on Amazon Prime.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Yeah, yeah, they just started playing automatically. And then I
woke up in the middle of the night because I
think I fell asleep during the Jake Snake and then
I woke up in the night and it's just Anthony
Hopkins movie about like wartorcycles I do miss He's like
racing like in the Salt Flats. I don't like.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
I was like, what is this?

Speaker 2 (48:13):
I missed that from TV?

Speaker 1 (48:14):
I could have dreamed that.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
I don't know, just wrote your first script.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
I think it has to be real. But it was
about Yeah, it was weird and he was older, and
I'm like, I've never heard of this movie anyways.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Oh, that's that's alright crazy.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
I was side quest.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
All right, since this had a certain darkness to it.
So I'm gonna go crutches, how many crutches? How many crutches?

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Hairs? I think I gave Brian a two to two.
We gave Rich two or a one seven.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
My richest score was higher.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
I gotta give this at least like a We're always
out of five, right, Yeah, I'll give it like a
two eight. You know, if you like bodybuilding and you
grew up with Ronnie or don't know, who Ronnie is.
You know, it's something Yeah, let's say two eight, not
not above a three, above a three something like a
bee in my mind, right, Yeah, So like a bee,
I would at least rewatch. I'm probably not going to

(49:20):
rewatch this guy, kind of saying with his old ones
though too, his old boring vog ones. They're like a
one watch get the feel for it, and they're cool,
but you're probably never going to rewatch them. You know,
he's just riding a bike, playing like pac Man all
morning and shit. But yeah, probably two eight.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
Yeah, two and a half. Yeah, I'll say it's a
one and done crutches.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
If you are a giant bodybuilding fan, yeah, of this
particular era, a giant Ronnie Coleman fan, you would probably
rank it higher because there's a there's you know, just
a lot of obviously a lot of footage of him,
but a lot of footage of him in pain. And
maybe you're you know, maybe the empathy part of it
plays for you or whatever, or it's just there, you
know kind of My my gripe is that we don't

(50:04):
really learn much.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Yeah, and the family I think the family man is
the only thing you really learned because all the other
stuff so bodybuilding focused, so like it's kind of cool
to see him with his kids and how happy he is.
That kind of like a bright side. But I agree
you don't like there's no new sauce.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
No, I mean, I like, I think you touched on
it a bit earlier. I like I would have been
curious about how the business part of it developed and how,
like how.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Go into the warehouse, do you like talk about the
products that they're you know, do all.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
That, and and just like who who started it and how?
And I mean did somebody approach him? Did he approach somebody?

Speaker 1 (50:35):
What was the show him at the trade show, show
him at the doing shooting.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
He was a BSN guy. I think most was his career.
I think he was a cell you core, No, that's muscle.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
I mean what would that cell mass BSN member that
I know, I took many of ships and was sell mask?
What was cell mass?

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Why were we taking mix? Creating mix? Was it pounded it?

Speaker 1 (50:58):
I remember I would just sit in my fucking I
had one of those like bench that also can convert
into other like things, like you know, like uh, it's
a transress transformer bench press.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
You know, the optimist, get it like dicks right, And.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
I remember I would be fucking I would take a
fucking shitload of O Explode and sell masks, and I'd
just be sitting there just staring at the carpet, like
thirteen years old.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Oh my god. I didn't take any of that until
I was like twenty.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
No, I was, yeah, I think I was like, yeah,
probably freshman sophomore high school.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
It was common because I worked out with like a
lot of like public school kids and it explode.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Did anything taste worse than in it? You know, explode?

Speaker 2 (51:34):
No?

Speaker 3 (51:34):
It was so it was so bad.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
It was so doctor but it.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Kind of like a kind of like it kind of
like made me feel like it was working because it
was bad, Like if it tastes delicious now I'm just
having a Coca Colas, Like yeah, you're like, oh, this
is gonna give me fucking jacked because it tastes like medicine.
It was all so chocky, but it was kind of bubbly.
It wasn't like it.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Wasn't like, you know, you take a scoop now it's
all light and like it was like you had to
like broll.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
I didn't even know if like shape shaker cups were
a thing when I started. Either I got free plastic
like think of almost like a soda thing you'd get
at like a movie, you know, but it had a
screw top, like the cheapest plastic ever, and you're just
shaking that thing. You shake it too much, the lid's
gonna explode. But there's no like normal ass they.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Had, like they kind of had like the honeycomb like
insert you see.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
I don't even know if I had that.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Oh, like the world. It was basically supposed to stop
the chunks. Yeah yeah, but no way right, but it
wasn't really didn't really do anything. No, there was there
was a good feeling of yeah, you shit automatically. Then
it explode was so strong. I should not have been
taking all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
Just as an aside, we were kind of on it earlier.
Is Tom Brady just all filler.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
Now like it was also his fillers like migrating, because
that's what happened his looks. Yeah, commentary, we're starting we're
starting to see all these people that got filler like
ten years ago, and we're now it's like before we
knew like what happens now it starts to Mike great
to other parts of your face? Is he single and
you can't really do anything about it? You can get
like shots to get it to go away, but it

(53:06):
fucking destroys your face?

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Is he single? On wondering maybe he's still trying to
I mean he's I don't know.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
It just probably just plowing through the fucking I think
he's plowed for thirty years. Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
Yeah, probably he's.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
Married for some of that time. That doesn't stop yeah
yet you know yeh yeah yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Pro athletes, yeah yeah, they be plowing. Yeah, this is
probably just just proud plowing.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Still.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Well, I was just wondering why he's trying to look
so pretty. I mean he's on TV.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Well, it's just what they do. Yeah, I mean I
don't think this whole entire personality though, was based around
his looks. Yeah, which is so funny outside of the game, right,
I can't.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
Say that he had anything to say that was important
all this.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Some people love him. I don't love him. As a
comment it's common. I think it's fine.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
It's commentating, very base level.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
I think it's fine. Some people love it, but it's
I think it's even a podcast like hearing thing.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
It's like hearing fucking Brady's voice.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
No, Bro, the Manning Brothers and Bilichick on like the
podcast or something are way better. Oh they're fucking they're
so good. I had a weird dream. Talking about weird
dreams or not dreams, I had a dream I was
with the Manning Brothers a couple of weeks ago. I
never remember my dreams. I'm just kicking it with the
Manning Brothers aisode dope in a sauna, you know. No,
we were like on a field, like I was at
like an event. I don't know what we're doing. We're
playing catching ship, just shooting the ship. I only dreams.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
I really remember the ones. If I wake up at
like five or six in the morning and I go
back to sleep, those ones I remember for sure. And
then Hopkins is just screaming down the streetway Hopkins is
just hauling asking the sand on a fucking modified.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Star Wars A lot of Star Wars by Dean's script,
somewhere between like a Western and Dune.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
This was a real movie. He falls off the bike
and everybody laughs at him.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
All right, so I gotta find this. I gotta find
this Anthony.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Hopkins Motorcycle Movie.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Yeah, this one was definitely just a sad, a sad
chain of events. It also just like makes you not
want to, uh work out.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Well, he kind of did, like do working out justice.
He didn't say like, hey, this doesn't have to be you.
I had some genetic stuff or like you know, because
now everyone that watches this is never gonna squad again.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
It makes you look at all the rest of them back.
All the rest of them look healthy as shit. Color
looks great. He's only like seven years younger. Color look
hella healthy. And I've seen him in person. Yeah, he looks.
Color looks great. All the guys look great. Kay. Green
looks insanely healthy, and he's probably ten years younger.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Flex had just gotten healthy again, like right before the shot.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
I mean he lost a leg even right like Flex
has gone.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Through its leg.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Yeah yeah, yeah, but how did that happen. I don't
know those diabetes or drug I don't know this story.
There's stuff going on though. He had an infection at
some point too.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
He looks jacked in his seat.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Yeah, Flex. Flex has had a lot of health issues
over the last like eight years.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
It's not a collide we're searching for when Anthony Hopkins
went to the desert on a bike on a motorbike?

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Are we in chronological?

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Uh? Yeah? Is it old?

Speaker 2 (56:05):
It wasn't like super You gotta think about Amazon Prime.
It's probably a shit movie we've never heard of. Potentially, yeh, slipstream,
he could be screamed way.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
I think I would think we were just coming up
on it. I think, what's that one fractured? Even the
world's fastest Indian?

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Oh, that's it?

Speaker 3 (56:24):
Oh, that's it.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Was it about Indian bikes?

Speaker 1 (56:26):
Maybe there was about motorcycles. That's got to be it,
because the whole thing was leading up to him being uh.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Burt Monroe taking it to the New Zealand. We've got
the land speed record. Look, man, you're not crazy. There
there is insane man.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
There's the him kind of building it out. Yeah, he's
cutting the tires.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Yeah, that's its als last nineteen sixty seven, right on
the nose.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
Okay, so it exists, all right? So yeah, so Dean's
gonna write the updates.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Script two. What did's a year?

Speaker 3 (57:01):
Did say?

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Two thousand and five?

Speaker 3 (57:03):
Wow? Yeah, two thousand and five. It's time for a reboot.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
It's time for a reboot.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
Well, we we're we're in the reboot era.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
He's been old for a long time. Huh, yeah, it happens.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
It have Diane Ladds in this movie and almost nobody
else I recognize. All right, anyway, anyways, thanks for hanging
with us.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
You got your rating, Jim, did you give official?

Speaker 1 (57:30):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Yeah, two and a half, two and a half, two
and a half.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
I agreed with Dean. Agreed with Dean. Al right, Dean,
where people can Where can people find you?

Speaker 1 (57:38):
Yeah, happened to kilos at Dean Stores. That'sk What do
we got next? C? T.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Fletcher and maybe the original Generation Iron?

Speaker 3 (57:44):
Yeah, sounds good those two.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
We'll be back if you guys want to dive into
those with us, watch them now. Those will be upcoming episodes.
There's shoot Barbo's talking about in California. I' so I'm
like where you want to find me best? I'm Sebastian Underscore,
burn Bilo on, I.

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