July 2, 2025 • 50 mins
Just a couple of days past the official Men’s Mental Health Month, we take a look at a short, but powerful documentary available on YouTube, “The Voices of Men.” It was produced in the UK and is driven by men telling their personal stories of struggle with mental health conditions such as depression and PTSD. Their faces are never seen, and their identities are never revealed. No doubt their words will resonate for many who watch/listen to this documentary.
The doc is available here: https://youtu.be/Y0F1cICm9IM?si=QqtdhTxTZwhIv1BO
We start off with another mental health story. That of the Liver King and his recent run-in with the law after threatening Joe Rogan.
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The doc is available here: https://youtu.be/Y0F1cICm9IM?si=QqtdhTxTZwhIv1BO
We start off with another mental health story. That of the Liver King and his recent run-in with the law after threatening Joe Rogan.
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50% Facts is a Spreaker Prime podcast on OCN – the Obscure Celebrity Network.
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Produced by Jim McDonald
Production assistance by Sam McDonald and Sebastian Brambila.
Theme by Aaron Moore. Show art by Joseph Manzo (@jmanzo523)
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Uh junism is a is a lot of different official
months of things like like maybe an excessive number. You know,
it's it's Pride, it's there's three, four or five other ones,
and then it's Men's Mental Health Awareness Month.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I wonder why those are even like a thing. Not
that it's bad, but I do wonder, like does it
really do are they really doing some shit?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
That's a really good question. I don't know. I mean,
obviously Pride because there's a parade and parties and stuff everywhere,
and but like does that help? And I don't know in.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Twenty twenty five, like in nineteen ninety with you know,
I've seen the Milk documentary, yeah, and Milk the movie,
Like for sure we need to fight some shit. Yeah,
you know they're not saying that everything's clear, clear and
free now there's all everyone goes through struggles, and especially
smaller groups. I get it. But yeah, as a party
on the street with EDM fixing it.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I don't know. I think it's I think in most
holidays and official you know, months dedicated to a particular
cause are a certain percentage or a a an excuse
to gather or an excuse to party or whatever, and
(01:27):
then a certain percentage of raising awareness, but I don't
know how those and I think there's probably those percentages
flip depending upon what the subject is.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, and maybe I'm just a hater and just getting
too grumpy, but like a lot of it, I bet
we could just trickle down to some kind of political lobbying. Yeah,
and that's what That's what I just hate because I
don't hate the cause, but like, are they the cause
isn't fighting the cause. Someone's making money to fight the cause,
and that's why they're pushing all this shit, you know,
(01:57):
which sucks. And that's maybe why mental health gets slightly
less attention now, just because maybe there's less money to be.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Made other than drugs.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, I was gonna start on the light note before
we get into the deep.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Oh, I got two pieces before we actually get deep
into it. But they're both kind of related.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
But you got mine's very related. It may be similar,
but we may have the same thing. The man got arrested.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yes, I know this is the one that this is
one of the things on my list.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
This is really good, but I'm also skeptical. I'm wondering
if I spend too much time on the internet now
because everything I see, I feel like there's a sixty
percent chance it could be scripted. Uh maybe, but this
popped up. I don't think we can show them. And
I got the best screenshot of my life and I
sent it to Kyle and I said, what the fuck's
(02:40):
going on here? Look at this gentleman's eyes.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Uh yeah, that they're they're one of them is one
of his pupils is blown and the early black.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
The sun's directly on his face. Can you see it's up?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, and one is the size of a pin. Now
I'm not an eye doctor or doctor in any region,
but that doesn't look normal.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Uh No, No.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
The one and only, the one of two.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Brian Johnson.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, I was gonna say, mister Brian Johnson himself has
either really doubled down with this PR team.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Which seems unlikely because it is so out there that
he got arrested.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
But I was watching a lot. I did a deep dive,
and just some of it feels really weird, you know.
But he I saw it a couple of days ago,
within last maybe the weekend we're recording now, on a Wednesday,
where he was I don't know why, but he just
kept calling out Joe Rogan to fight him.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yes, this is what he said exactly, Joe Rogan, I'm
calling you out. My name's Liver King, Manton Man. I'm
picking a fight with you. I have no training in
jiu jitsu. You're a black belt. You should dismantle me.
But I'm picking a fight with you. Your rules. I'll come
to you whenever you're ready.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Another quote, Because he put out like six videos of
the same nature. A couple are semi normal for Liver King.
You know he's talking to the cam, but I think
he mentions he's two seventy in one of them, like,
I know you're trained, but I'm two seventy and I'm
an animal. And I said, well, maybe you were.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I don't think he's too seventy eight, not anymore. I
don't know if he could. He's five to five. How
could he possibly ever be too seventy.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, back in the day, maybe two fifty max, maybe
two forty. But he's definitely lost muscle and weight. Yeah,
his face looks incredibly unhealthy.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah, he looks like a he looks a catchers bit.
It looks so like a hairy ketcher spit.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
It looks so bad. His like you can get it
from any age and being tired, but you get like
black you know, like raccoon eyes or like puffy eyes.
His are like swollen beyond his like shape of his skull,
Like they look insane. And I know some of that
does come from Oregon issues. Some is just natural if
(04:58):
you don't get meat. Yeah, not the his own organs,
like his own kidney and liver. He's so focused on
eating ones, but he's not focused on his own health.
Then there's another one where he's doing some bear crawls
up to the camera and calls out Rogan to fight again.
And that one actually just looks like an insane person,
like what's the very famous sebash. He might be a
(05:19):
little young horror movie where the chick crawls out the TV.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Oh the ring ring.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
He's crawling at the camera like the fucking bitch in
the ring, calling out Rogan, looking literally insane. Yeah, and
then I guess he just I thought he is Texas, right,
He's somewhere in Texas, but I think so it sounds
like he went to Austin and is now stalking Rogan. Yes,
And that's where my script, you know, potential comes in
(05:47):
is there's three videos where I don't know if it's
manager who it is, but they're in his suite at
a very nice hotel, it looks like, and they're like
filming him ready to get arrested, and I know not
all arrests happen break down the door, fucking throw you
on the ground, right, Like if hypothetical, which is the rumor,
I think Rogan called somebody said hey, this guy's hunting
(06:09):
me down, then maybe they would do it a little
bit more cordially, but just the setup of that, he's
talking very sporadic and insane to begin with, so I'm
not both can be true. He could be off his rocker,
and it could also be scripted, which is sick if
that's what his PR team is doing, like actually disgusting.
(06:29):
But he's freaking out and someone's filming him and he's like, well,
can I bring my phone? And do I have to
wear clothes? And are they gonna arst me naked? And
oh I gotta go down, And there's like like a
vlog on Instagram of him getting clothes on, prepared to
go and like joking like, well I'll just take a shit,
like they can't arrest me while like shit right like
stuff like that, which is insane person talk, but it's
(06:49):
also feels like it's for the camera. I don't know,
it just felt very weird.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I feel like it could definitely be both things. But
if you flash back a few weeks when we watched
the liver King documentary, toward the end of it, there
we were both thinking, okay, well, it's not just steroids, yeah,
that are flowing to this man's veins, like definitely like
a mushroom thing.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
And I saw rumors, rumors allegedly maybe hearsay on the
internet of meth yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
And math as we oh yeah, yeah, I know this
behavior looks like meth. Yeah, it doesn't look like mushers
or myth plus mushrooms. So it was.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Mostly the eyeballs that got me because it looks so crazy,
and I even think that eyeballs was before him calling
out Rogan. It was just another video that popped up
on my shit, and I was like, man, he looks
actually so unhealthy, because in the documentary he looked like
liver King, but he didn't look like he was this
this looks bad even compared to that, And so I
just googled around, like the pupil shits and then he
has blue mouth, and all his videos it looks like
(07:47):
he ate a blue like popsicle blueberry or something like that. No,
like blue popsicle like blue. And someone said, there's like
methyl lane or something like.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
A blue methyl yeah, blue methylne something to come off
of math. They yeah, theoretically, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
But it sounds like it's probably yeah, just yeah, that's just.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Kind of caught on pretty recently.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I just recreationally, I just started saying that, yeah, right,
so then and his shit is bright blue, and I'm like, well, like,
even if you are, again, probably both are true, right,
because if you're trying to make content, you're not You're
not going to make content about your math. That's one
part you would hide. So you think it'd rinse his
mouth or whatever and figure that out. And then yeah,
(08:29):
I just googled around and obviously there's Reddit's about him,
but also just talks about pupils. The other idea is
that if you get smashed in the eye really really bad,
your pupils could stick like that. I guess I don't
know potentially, but that's so extreme. The one is so big.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I I mean, I have never been the kind of
person to subscribed to the the theory that all PR
is good PR. And so I don't understand how any
of this helps him in any way other than just
you know, it's going to bring some attention, but it's
going to be largely negative attention, and a lot of
(09:04):
people have already written the guy off, I think, And
so I think this just sort of pushes him further
down that road. I don't know who you know, when
you see something like this, you think, who is this for?
I think I saw, you know, James Coppola reposted somebody's
video where the guy was like, yeah, you need to
come down to the compound and lock in. Man, you
(09:25):
just need to lock in. You'll be okay're worried about you,
Just like, what the actual fuck?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
A couple more cold plunges, your fucking idiot.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah, and anytime somebody says compound, I'm nervous about cultish
behavior and weird, weird manisphere shit.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
But good lord, I think the only way I disagree
with you is PR people that are too caught up
in their sauce and which case they believe that, Okay,
we'll show that he's fucking insane and then he'll recover
and they'll love him again. I like this good guy,
bad guy. Not that that's the path I would take.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Or I've been going all the way crazy before I
come back to saying.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
It's kind of like the Kanye.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
The Kanye right, right, because Kanye has done it, and
he's done it multiple times, and you know, I'm of
the belief Kanye is just slightly sick and he's he's
actually a very good analogy subs because I think he's both.
I think he has some mental problems and I also
think he's a genius creator and I think he's a
genius marketer. So he weaves these three unhealthily. Yeah, and
(10:31):
so maybe they are trying to play like a YA card,
which is insane. Yeah, And and you know all this
stuff is you know, you've turned the volume down, and
that's what the WWE is, Like I learned about all
this shit. I feel like watching the WWE because they're
just like marketing characters through good and bad this whole time,
and now people are trying to do it in real life.
But watching like the mini vlogs on Instagram of him
(10:54):
getting arrested just felt so weird. And then uh, yeah,
I already wasted too much of my brain on it.
But I was I was watching him get into the
truck and I tried to see the guy put him
in the truck, and I couldn't find a badge. He
had a vast and a gun and all the kit
and then then and then and then they won't like
show the car and it is an Explorer, but then
(11:14):
they pull zoom out and it's all blocked out, and
I'm like, maybe possible, but like, why wouldn't that just say,
like Austin p D like they're gonna you know. Yeah,
It's just that kind of stuff made me raise an
eyebrowt There's there's a clip of him getting in and
it is like semi cordial, you know, like they're not
chucking him in there. Uh, which again, if he's off
the rocker on meth and how he's acting in his videos, yeah,
(11:39):
you think he's just gonna like, yeah, I'll hop in
the truck like what you know, you know, willing we Yeah,
it just felt very weird. It felt very weird, but
it does obviously this episode we're talking about mental health
in a bit, and so that's Yeah, me and Jim
were on the same page seeing the same news factors.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
So this is from from k x A n in
in Austin. According to Austin Police Department, detectors contacted miss Rogan,
who stated he had never had any interaction with Johnson
and consider the posts to be threatening. Police located Johnson
at the four Season Four Seasons hotel around six pm
Tuesday and took him into custody, and additional Instagram video
(12:14):
posted around seven thirty pm shows who appears to be
Johnson wearing a burgundy hoodie and pants, handcuffed getting into
a police vehicle.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah. The vlogs on Instagram. I haven't checked, but I
imagine they're still up and he's putting that sweatsuit on.
He's just like walking around his fucking hotel room naked
or like in boxers with his wife and his PR
guy who's like in a suit.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
It's just all really really weird.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
And you know, I mean, the other possibility is this
PR guy is like he cannot keep a leash on
his client. Sure, and he, I mean, and what he's
there to try to do whatever he can to keep
a leash on his client, but he's not successful.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, and I do understand in modern day, why a
lot of people film everything? I guess Yeah, in your
hypothet to go why the PR guy is not evil?
Is like, yeah, you want to make sure your client's
not going to get beat the fuck up or mistreated
by the cops. Like I do understand that or just
witness what's gonna happen correctly. But it just feels weird
(13:13):
to me. And maybe I'm just that middle millennial where
I tip both ways, where like just like having your
camera out all the time feels weird, you know, like
that's not the first thing I even think of, And
like this is a crazy instance. If one of my
friends or clients is like getting arrested and threatening Joe
Rogan to fight him, then he's gonna die if he
does that. Like there's no way he fights Joe Rogan
of wins. Like I don't think like, oh, let me
(13:34):
just film it, Like I'm thinking about how can I
fix this problem?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah, what he was arrested for I read in another
article is terroristic threat. And terroristic threat is very subjective. Sure,
it doesn't necessarily it doesn't necessarily have a great definition,
you know, it's it's what well, and they asked Rogan
do you find this threatening? And he said, yes, I
(13:58):
find this threatening, so heuristic threat yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
And I would too, right, like yeah, like the guy's
talking insane, his pupils popping out his eye. The one
thing is though, like one, if it's one on one,
Rogan's gonna whoop your ass, and then two, I'm pretty
sure it's true that Rogan obviously has insane amounts of money,
like he has like ex Navy seals watching his house
twenty four seven. So well, yeah, that's good luck, bucko.
It would makes sense. But at the same time, like
(14:21):
it is well known that that Rogan got very paranoid
about his personal safety after the phil Harmon incident where
his wife, you know, killed him and I think the
kids on herself. I can't remember of the kids, but
she definitely killed him and then herself. Yeah, and that
was a really good friend of his.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, yeah, they were on they were on news radio.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah no, but yeah, and beyond that, yeah, really good friend.
Ye yah. I think they're really good friends. And it
was all Andy Dick's fault because he Andy Dick's another one.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, Andy Dicks got Yeah, he's apparently now living in
a just read this. The other day in trailer park
Trailer Parking Springs.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Guys, I've admitted here many times in confession that I'm
really into degenerate ass live streams, And so they'll be
very small streamers, like not many views, and they'll just
be vlogging Hollywood or West Hollywood or whatever. And a
couple of them have I don't know if they're buddies
or just like met up with Andy Dick. This is
probably like last year, and they'd just be walking around
(15:21):
Hollywood Andy Dick. Uh and although nice in these moments,
you could just tell he's off his rocker for sure,
you see. You know Tom Green, I'm trying to think
of who else is kind of like Andy Dick.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Tom Green is not crazy though, no, but like same vibe.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
But I don't know what this motherfucker's about that you
never know what he's gonna do. But yeah, I'm just
meaning the same era of like comedy, same kind of
weird comedy because they're not Dave Chappelle and they're not
Martin Lawrence. You know, they're like mid level weird. I'm
trying to think of who else man like weird Al
Yankovic issue, I don't right like they're kind of this
(15:59):
this like level because Andy Dick never really made it,
although he's on big TV shows and stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah, he I think that the best way to say.
And he was a I mean he was a stand
up for a successful stand up for for a long time.
I think he just he sabotaged himself. I mean that's
the reason that he wasn't a bigger star is that
he sabotaged himself. And he sabotaged himself because he wasn't
a bigger star.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
He had one of the early boros, you know, one
of the early reality TV shows too, where it was
like Andy Dick's Mansion or something. It was like three episodes,
and I think it was too crazy and they shut
it off because he was like hard to work with
and obviously doing crazy shit. And even being a successful
comedian though even ten years ago, is such a different
thing to being a successful comedian now. Yeah, you know, right,
(16:43):
like successful comedian now you're flying private in a Rolls Royce.
Successful comedian, then you're getting picked up by HBO for
a movie. You know, like like you're still you're making
maybe one hundred K just being a comedian back in
the day, where now they're some of the richest folks.
You had to tour all the time, right, Yeah, and
you're not doing arenas.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I just I just realized very recently that a woman
who was in my first improv class back in twenty eighteen,
so I think she was still in high school or whatever,
she started doing stand up and she's fucking killing it.
She's her whole set is on the Netflix is a
(17:24):
Joke YouTube channel. She's like part was part of the
Netflix's a Joke Festival. Yeah, she's fucking hysterical. She's she's great,
and like, if you were in a scene with her,
you just never knew what she was going to say, Yeah,
and so you just had to like kind of go
with it.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Comedy is so cool.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah, shout out Ruby sed Nick.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah that's dope. She's from Sack.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Then she's from Sack.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. I mean obviously, like music, comedy,
like the business models changed a lot, uh, and there's
a lot more opportunity with TikTok and things, right, Like
you can absolutely pop off and you know, rogue on
those guys, the Shane Gillises or whatever, the Theo Vaughn's.
I've really blazed a path for people to have real success.
You know, we're back in the day. Yeah, you're doing clubs.
(18:06):
I just got introduced to it so early, like my
first good and bad, my first like bout of depression
in like high school. I didn't know what to do
with myself, and I was like, well, I got like
force something, you know, And so I just started going
to Blockbuster and renting every famous stand up comedy ever
and I just fell in love with stand up comedy.
Like in high school, many times.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
You watched Delirious.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
It was Delirious. It was like all the Martin Lawrence,
it was all the Chris Rock. I didn't go like
too far back, you know, cause the same issue we've
talked about, I didn't like old shit. So like I
was watching a lot of Chris Rock, a lot of
Martin Lawrence, early Dave Chappelle's even like really early Rogans
at the time, because he wasn't as popular obviously in five.
But I'm trying to think of who else I saw.
Dane Cook had a run there. Dane Cook's like CD
(18:46):
I think was number one selling in the nation and
it was just stand up CD.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
So you're way too young to have experienced the the
Steve Martin era, but he.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Watched his movies.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
He was hysterical but very off the wall.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, I watched like that's like what you might call
it kind of a humor is it Three Musketeers or whatever?
Or Three Amigos?
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Three Amigos?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Right, So like I watched all those so I got
his vibe almost like Jim Carrey esque too, right, Like
he's just kind of like.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Goofy, except if Jim Carrey makes me uncomfortable and Steve
Martin doesn't.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Jim Carrey, Yeah, I mean talk about mental health. Jim
Carrey might be there too. It's just so hard to tell,
like either you're the best actor in the world or
you have to be the best actor in the world
because you're a little off.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I think it's I think it's a little bit of
mental health. But he's also really just like painfully smart man.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, that's that's kind of the I think I mentioned it.
I've seen his uh I don't know what the school was,
but he went to like an art college. Yeah, and
he does the uh whatever, the keynote or I don't
know the real term, but at the graduation. Yeah, yeah,
is a keynote. Is there a fancy term, it's just
a graduation. Yeah, he just did like and it's just
(19:53):
like beautiful, you know, it's just like literally, I know
he had killed it. Just twenty minutes of poetry, he
kills it. Yeah. He just hats a picture like he
could have been a rapper and just told the best
stories ever. Like he just his word and I think
it's like half off the cuff, you know, he really is. Yeah,
something special.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, yeah, Liver King Man, Liver King. I don't know
what the hell's going to go on there. The other
the other one that came up to me today or
actually yesterday, was in a game the White Sox versus
(20:33):
the Diamondbacks in Chicago the other day, a fan, twenty
two year old fan, yelled out something to Katel Marte
about It was some comment about his mother. His mother
was killed in a in a car accident in twenty seventeen,
(20:57):
and whatever this fan said was so upsetting that essentially
it stopped the game because he was like in tears,
like inconsolably in tears. No, I think it just hurt
him too bad. I think it just like got right
under the skin and whatever. So this guy has been
banned for life. But number one, that's a super shitty
(21:22):
thing to do, and like and and like, who who
is the person with them with the most mental health issue?
In this equation, it's the guy who yelled something? But
to like, how, what's the what's the time clock on
grieving a parent, especially a parent lost in an accident
(21:45):
or some something sudden whatever? You just you know you're
not prepared for it. How could you be?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yeah, that's so I always again be in this middle millennial.
I just blame that on the internet. That's just the
ship again. Like I'm I'm anti bowllying, but I do
think there's something when you're in third grade and you
tell the big kid, hey, you're fucking fat, and the
fucking kid punches you. There's a lesson to be learned there.
And this guy in the crowd has only lived on
the internet talking as much shit as he wont his
(22:10):
whole time, and that's how he gets his attention. I
agree with you, he's the sick one because he just
feeds off any attention and he doesn't know how to
get good attention, so he gets bad attention and then
he's gonna go say whatever the fuck he wants with
no repercussions. That's why I kind of wish the baseball
player would, yeah, fucking at least punch him one, give
a little something.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I do not know what happened to him or a
fan after they I would have punched him after they
pulled him out, because it I mean, it could have been.
Anything could have happened. Yeah, it's just so shit, especially
especially on on the South Side Chicago. Yeah, any damn
thing could have happened to get for just you know,
making him making white Sox fans look bad.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah, well either way, Yeah, you're just a shit human.
Just stop doing Yeah, stop doing this, like what the fuck,
because you're gonna do that one day to the wrong
dude and you're gonna get fucking punched. Yeah, and you're
gonna deserve it at that point. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
No, for sure, I'm not I'm not of Island person,
but some people just need to be punched in the face.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Because you'll never learn. I mean, I've seen it before.
There's a clip I think from last year. I don't
even know where it was. But a lot of times
you can buy like you know, VIP experiences to games
and you get to go in the free food in
the back and it's something like that. And I don't
know if Russell Westbrook was injured or maybe it was
after the game or before, but I think he's in
regular clothes and he's walking through that hallway and there's
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fans back there, you know, at the little buffet. Yeah,
and someone says something to him like as close as
me and sebas are, and Westbrook just walks up to
him like, oh yeah, you know, like in Westbrook grew
up in I think a not great part of LA Like, yeah,
don't fuck around, man, Like he's a human. You would
never say that to any other human.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, there's no point in that.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, Like you're gonna go just say that to anybody
in the year walking through the mall and you just
blurt out everything you think, Like, shut the fuck up, man. Yeah, people,
it's ruining it. It's ruining it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I don't understand. I understand because sports.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
The heckling's one thing, man, But like, just like keep
it about the game, hey, man, you can't shoot a
fucking free throw, you know, Like, talk all the shit
you want about the game, right, Don't talk about someone's family,
don't talk about them personally.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah, I mean the only time that it can be
about that it can be personal is about performance, right yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
You're fucking trash or slow, you can't jump whatever the
fuck go crazy. And then the player, which it's similar
to you know, content or acting or whatever, Like, they
choose to show the world their sport, so then they
with the responsibility of making one hundred million dollars, you
also get to be criticized about your sport, right, because
that's a hot topic on ESPN and stuff. Man, they're
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so mean to players. But like that they chose to
make a lot of money, yeah, showing this right, If
I choose to make a lot of money doing painting,
you're allowed to criticize my paint, right, Like that's just
how it goes. But I didn't make a lot of
money about my mother. Don't talk about my fucking mother,
you know, exact and even like not on like some
crazy street shit. I obviously grew up in the suburbs,
but I've been around some street shit. Like you just
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don't talk about someone's mom. Like you talk about someone's mom,
they're gonna beat the fuck up as an adult. As
a kid, like, you just don't do that you know,
talk about their dad, talk about you don't talk about
their kids, you don't talk about their sister, and you
don't talk about their mother, or you deserve to get
beat the fuck up.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, I can't disagree with that.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, it's just why what are you doing? It's so dumb,
especially in a situation like that where the dude's mom passed,
like so stupid.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Yeah yeah, it's like, what what do you hope to gain?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah, it's dumb.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
What do you hope to gain? You get to hurt
another human being for who has never done anything to you.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah, the best thing this guy could come is go
on TikTok and give a real apology now and make
it heartfelt, you little fuck.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yeah it sucks.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I mean I thought I thought it was bad the
other day. It was about a week or so ago
when a fan fan in San Francisco threw a ball
on the field during during play trash and there's actually
a video came out that's showing him doing it. You
think you're not gonna get caught, yeah, which of course happened,
right Uh, And I thought that that's that's bad behavior
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in that person is probably banned from every ballpark for
life being an idiot, and he was again a young
dude being an idiot. It's like, maybe don't be an idiot.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
That's a I mean, you go and I get it, Like,
you know, I think it was eight years ago or
twelve years ago, Argentina played Brazil in Brazil and yeah,
there's fucking cups getting thrown like every piece of trash.
Imagine while getting thrown at the Argentina team walking out
the tunnel, Like I get it. And even that, not
that I think it's good. That's not as bad as
personally talking about a dude's mom, you know, like, what
the fuck are you doing? Yes, trash, Yeah, they're just.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
They're just just not justifiable at all, not even a
little bit. Ryan Johnson, Yeah, uh, flashing back to the
previous conversation. But part of the conversation. I am a
friend of mine who I will identify, met a politically
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adjacent figure who will I also not identify, but you
know who I'm talking about. And I and we like
ask him, like, what's he like? And he said, I
he seems like he's suppressing the urge to have a
violent outburst every few seconds. It's like that's that's not
mentally healthy, And I don't know how somebody sustains a
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personal image.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah, that's credible. If that's the case, I'd imagine that's
the case of ninety nine percent of anyone in a
higher up political position in modern day. Maybe. So you know,
like back in the day, you're doing shit Like now
you're just a fucking puppet for whatever party, just playing
games all day. Yeah, it's bad, it's bad. Yeah. I
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would never want to be in one of those shoes
no more. I know, you know, like I like politics,
I follow it and the listen to podcasts and all
like that. But that's like my drama again, that's like
my degenerate side of things. Yeah, but like actually doing it. Yeah,
imagine everything you have to suppress, whether it's knowledge, feelings, thoughts,
if you even want to have a moderate thought, you can't, yeah,
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because you got to be pread to whatever side you're on.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, whatever whatever pull you're pulling toward.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah, whatever is going to get you voted in, you
got to say some crazy shit. It's kind of like
social media, honestly, right, because like and going about good
press bad press, you just need people to talk about you. Yeah,
And obviously it's not as extreme as like a liver
King take. But you got to say some crazy because
you say some moderate ship and now no one's going
to talk about you. You're not getting in the New
York Times, right, you got to say some crazy shit
on whatever party you want to be on. So then
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everyone's going to talk about you. They've got to make
a headline and.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
That, and of course that's polarizing, and then and then
the positions get calcified and know there's no middle ground anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yeah, now we're all fucked. Yeah, we're all fun for sure.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
So uh, I, you know, obviously wanted to talk a
little bit about men's mental health, you know, this month,
but that's it's an issue every single month. So that's
you know, Uh so what I did? I did? What
what what everyone does? I googled men's mental health documentaries
and there were a couple of options, and some of
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them were longer, but I thought this one, which is
called The Voices of Men, and it's on it's on YouTube,
and it is it's very accessible. It's you know, roughly
eleven minutes, and it's constructed in a different way than
I've seen documentaries done before. In part that it's a
(29:26):
short documentary and in part that I for anonymity reasons
or for for whatever reason, you only hear the voices
and there are you know, other images on the screen
that are somewhat sometimes reflective of what's being said and
off and not reflective of what's being said. Just basically
(29:50):
like sea best listen to it and you don't really
need you don't get any the visuals to get out
of it. I thought that that was a pretty effective approach.
It probably would have been more effective had we've seen
the guys sure directly talking. And this I must have
been done in the UK, because I.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Think it said like Manchester Film Festival or something that
suense about it, So I either it was entered or
one or something, so yeah, it does sound like the UK. Yeah,
I think it was probably just an artistic choice, and
I agree with you. I think I think it could
have gone either way. But I think it's still hit.
You know, it felt like it felt like a really
well done elongated TikTok, you know, which isn't like bad. Yeah,
(30:34):
because probably because in modern day again talking about music
and whatever else we were just talking about like to
get to get seen to get your message across. You
just want attention. And where does a tension line modern day,
especially for movies, it's not movie theaters and what you know,
it's TikTok and Instagram and that's how you gets your steps.
So if you're making a ten minute one, to kind
of make it like a good because some of my
(30:54):
TikTok or whatever reels the same shit is like that
motivational stuff, and some of it's good, you know, like
stuff they do like that you have a really good
speech over the background, and then the visuals kind of
have to do with it, but not directly, and you're
just seeing cool visuals also, So in that sense, I
liked it a lot. And and yeah, I think it
would be a coin flip whether seeing them, to me,
(31:16):
at least coin flip whether it's gonna be better or worse,
because it could go way better, but that could also
go way worse.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Way worse. Yeah, what the guys are talking about is
there whatever their particular struggle was with mental health or
has been with mental health. Some of it's PTSD, some
of it's being bullied as a child, some of it bipolar.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Even I think the PTSD guys, Yeah, and I think
he even mentioned PTSD prior to war. Yeah, because he
was a soldier who was enlisted and he was American,
I believe. Yeah. I think that there's definitely at least
because some of the stats they wrote up there, which
subus didn't see, probably were said the US, like us
is this versus the rest of the world or something,
And I think that's like again like being a good TikTok.
(32:01):
And I say that because, like mental health obviously is
something we've talked about over the years here, but it
is like a good reminder of how crazy some of
these stats are. And then it's a good reminder because
like I don't want to call it propaganda, but what's
talked about popularly is not that it's less important or
more important, but it's often talk about soldiers PTSD very important.
(32:22):
I think we should talk about that. But like PTSD
can come from other stuff, right, And obviously this gentleman's
was triggered by like a bipolar in life situations or
I forgot the other movie we did. I think it
was like the uh Psychedelics one, one of the psychedelics
one we did, and we were talking about their PTSD
because that lady. Remember the lady that like lost her brother,
(32:44):
her mom or dog, like all in the same year. Like,
that's gonna fuck, you're a lot up. Yeah, that's like
a lot to handle. Talk about sudden deaths out of nowhere,
and so like some of that I think was really
really good and not that again the other stuff is
less important, but it's just talked about more.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
You know, of course, if you're going to war, you're
going to come back a little razzled. Yeah, and we
should try to help that and fix that by all means.
But to hear other stories of yeah, I mean, what
what did happen to that lad? Her brother got shot
and then her mom got shot or something. I think
her brother overdosed, then her mother roommate went crazy. No,
I think her mother killed her significant other and herself. Yeah,
(33:21):
and then the dog was scratching at the door yeah
yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
And then whenever she would go to her house, her
dog would like scratch at the door because she's excited
or it's excited.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, while her out, and she didn't remember that. Yeah,
so that's why she did the yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
which is insane as well.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Good memory there, Yeah, that was good.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
That was really good. Yeah, it uh but yeah, overall
I think it was really cool. And again, like I
think there's a good way, because what are the chances
someone goes to a Netflix and clicks on, you know,
two hour long male's mental health exactly.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah, that was my thing because if the other you know,
the other runner up for this was when that was
about two hours long, I thought, I don't know if
I want to even slog through that like my I mean, sure,
it's I'm sure that it's good, but like on a
day to day basis, my mental health can be challenged
as well, you know, and it is sometimes too easy
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to absorb the the downside of somebody's experience.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
No, I think that's everything. Yeah, when we talk about
all the time, I mean literally, the clothing company is
called good company, and it's because like the energy you
stimulus you put in yourself is what you're going to
reflect eventually. And so if you're watching those things and
just like the likelihood of someone scrolling and coming across
a clip from this on TikTok, which I'm sure it
was clipped up. I think it's what two or three
years old or something like that, It is much more likely. Again,
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and if you want to get your message across, the
chance of someone's scrolling around and they see Batman Forever
or they see a documentary on Netflix, I'm probably clicking
Batman Forever, you know, like that's just the honest truth.
And I like documentaries. But if we're trying to again
going back to I guess my original question of make
an impact with these important subject X is like just
labeling the month, going to do that? Or is something
(35:04):
like this. I kind of like that they went short form. Yeah,
snippets that hit yeah, both emotionally and just reminders of
you know, like males being double the percentage of females
that commits suicide. And we've talked about we even had
your Friend on, you know, we had Havoc on and yeah,
we've had many conversations about this, and I hope not,
(35:26):
but it's likely when you get into your thirties, forties
and fifties, you know someone that took their own life,
you know, and so these things start to hit a
little bit. A The first person I knew I was
twenty and he was one of my favorite, you know, students.
He was one of my favorite kids I coached. He
was fucking sixteen, you know, like it's just insane that
you'll come across it. But because the cliches get thrown
(35:48):
out all the time, but I do believe them, Like,
you don't know what other people are going through, man,
So if you can make a positive impact with the
hello or hey man, your hair looks good today, or
you crack a joke, like, you don't know how far
that might go, and every interaction you have day to day.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
And I think that things have kind of changed over
time too, interested in terms of you know it is
this is probably the safest time in history for guys
to be open about how they feel about shit.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
That's true. Yeah, it goes back to the other stuff
I was talking about, like these braids and stuff are awesome,
and there's still work to be done, but we're also
in a pretty good place. Yeah, we're much better than
we used to do with all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Definitely better than we used to be. We were watching
the show the other night that's said in the early sixties,
and there's this particularly poignant scene that they've built up
to for episodes and episodes and episodes where this guy
who's a he's a he's a vicar, an Anglican vicar.
He's not a not a priest, but a vicar.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
And he.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
He was a foundling, like he was left on a
doorstep and he was raised by another vicar and whatever.
And he finds out, you know, deep into his thirties,
that his mother had left a note for him with
his him in the basket or in the cardboard box
or whatever he was in and you know, really struggles
(37:07):
with whether or not he should actually read it, because
he could he could be disappointing, it could be crushy.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
You have to but you're reading that, bitch, yeah, And
so like that.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
It's it's a kind of a detective mystery, that cozy
detective mystery show. And he works with a with a
cop and he says that I need to know what's
on it, but I can't read it. You have to
do it, and so the friend has to read it
to him, and of course it's very emotional. But the
thing that got me is that he reaches out his
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hand to his friend who just just read it, and
he holds his hand. Now, today there would be hucks,
but I can tell you that in the early fucking sixties,
there were not those kind of hucks. It didn't happen,
and I remember, like it was like a core memory
from you know, church as a kid, that that was.
That was the full length and breadth of the expression.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Most of the time. That's just so American, though I
feel like too, and obviously, as you said that European,
but like like Latin America. You know, you're kissing people
like we've joked about our what are like my best
friend's dad's a big Italian guy and in high school's
grabbed my fucking head and just kissing my face when
you know, like it's just like so uh yeah, so western,
I guess whatever. Guargentina, same thing. You know, I go
(38:22):
there in sixth grade and everyone kisses you on the
cheek regardless. It is a culture shocked to me being
in sixth grade, right, But yeah, in America, you're right,
it's been a fifty years of sixty years of big change.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, I.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Mean good and bad again because the same thing with
the social media and the politics we're talking about, then
it gets spread right either like you got to be
a dude, not even look a dude in the eyes,
only smoke cigars and drink whiskey or you know, or
you're gay, like you know. Like again, there's no middle
ground on this stuff. Yeah, there's no gray area, but
that's how they talk. Like if you scroll on reels
right now, that conversation is very prominent about like what
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a man is or like we need to get away
from this and that. And I agree obviously with the
middle ground because I agree with both, like, yeah, some
dudes do need to toughen up nowadays. Again to my bully,
bullying being good speech, and then uh, the opposite, some
dudes just think they're too tough and like, yeah, man,
you just need to hugg a brower every once in
a while. Yeah, like yeah, put down the cigar and
(39:18):
just fucking it's okay you can talk about being sad.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Yeah, I think about this, this place, this gym is
being kind of the huggiest place on earth. I've never
gotten more hugs in my entire life than.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Should I grew up my every day bro shouly the
same people yeah, still hugging.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. I think that's like
a bigger picture of just where the world is because
although we're like more connected than ever through the Internet,
social media and maybe you talk to more people or
get more impressions a day or more people's opinions. Today
you're further away from people, and so when you have
a real community, which we're lucky to have here at
Third Street, yeah, it's a lot more normal to do
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normal communal things.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Yeah, Yeah, for sure. It's I find it very reassuring
that it's possible and that that you know, no, it is,
and and you kind of see like some of the
some of the people who are not necessarily have not
not necessarily been given the hugs from everybody who suddenly
like they kind of creep up on it, and then
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it sort of just kind of happens, and then it's
then it's a pattern from that and forward.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Now. I think it's a beauty of sport, you know.
I think that's why everyone should do some kind of sport,
because you don't get that same thing. Like you could
have a dive bar that everyone goes to every single
weekend and everyone knows each other's name, but you're not
going to get that. No, you know, you can have
a whatever it might be. But there's something about sport.
There's something about like struggling together, having a commonality and
then obviously, yeah, the friendships I come with it, I
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think is very important and going to be even more
important as we go forward here with Terminator taken over. Yeah,
with the AI, right, I mean everyone's working at home still,
everyone's on your phone still, Like, it's just more and
more important to find a community that that has a
positive impact in your life. And not that you know,
you don't have to you can't invibe an alcohol and
things on your own time, but that's probably not the
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pushing forward positive community you need.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Yeah, it seems like there's I mean, since the pandemic,
there's more social isolation, but at this stage of the game,
there is more also relief for that social isolation if
people pursue it.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Yeah, it just takes effort. You got to pursue it.
Pursue It's the biggest word is trust me. I want
to be at home. Yeah, Like I'm the most anti
social person in the world, but like I forced my here.
Obviously I'm lucky because it's work, so I get to
show up and see people. But even when I'm in
Las Vegas or traveling, like I consciously say, like I
have to do people once a week, Like I have
to go do something. Otherwise I would easily be happy
(41:42):
on my computer. And I understand that that is the
easy route. But everyone needs it, whether you whether you
like it or not, you need it.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
One of the speakers in this video talked about how
like I want to get up and get out, I
want to do whatever, and I just can't make myself.
I think the real value of this thing is for
for guys and you know women too, to just not
feel like they're unique in the world in a negative way,
(42:13):
like I'm i a am I the only person who
feels this way. I'm not the only person who could
possibly care about what the fuck happens to me or whatever.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
You know.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
It's it's it's something that that that even if you're
not going through a struggle, you can listen to it
and think, well, I identify with that some I mean
some of that is me.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Yeah. I had both thoughts when I was listening to
it because of the speakers or the and hopefully they're
telling true stories and they're not just voice actors. Because
it felt pretty real.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
No, it sounded pretty real.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Yeah, I thought so too, as I thought both routes
should be good and it's something I criticize both physically
in sport and in the mental health situation, where it's great,
we're talking about all this stuff, but as the pendulum swings,
now everyone's O c D, anxiety and depression, like right,
where if you hopefully hopefully you don't, and then stats
(43:03):
show that not everyone's obviously deals with diagnosable depression and
bipolar and whatever those words to get thrown around that
if you don't, every humans sad, but not every human
has depression. Everyone feels depression, not everyone has depression. Yeah,
everyone feels pain. Not everyone's injured, right, And so hopefully
if you you know, I hope you're not, and you
(43:23):
listen to this, you can relate and say, oh, like
I don't, actually I'm not. I don't feel that, Like
I haven't been stuck on a couch, you know, like,
and I hope you haven't. But then, like you said,
the people that have, like, yeah, I get that. And
then when he was talking about that, I've been there.
You know, I've literally not moved from a couch for months,
you know, like six weeks straight. I literally didn't leave
a couch. So yeah, both sides, I hope hopefully some
(43:47):
realize like oh, I am blessed to not deal with that.
I do get sad, but I don't know those depths.
And then the others that do know those depths say, oh, man,
like yeah, I feel that probably like preach.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
And I mean, it just didn't by way of any
kind of criticism of this at all. There was because
there was no voiceover or anything like that. There was
no distinction between the people who are depressed because of
situations because or depressed because they actually have a depressive
mood disorder and they have no control over it at all.
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It just hits them, like, you know, it's like a
storm that comes out of nowhere.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
If something crazy happens in your life, you have no car,
you're broke, everyone's dying, you get divorced, Like you're gonna be.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Sad, Yeah, situationally depressed.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Yeah, like you're gonna be sad, but like yeah, when
the storm comes and everything seemingly okay, Yeah, probably a
different conversation.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Yeah, yeah, but it was solid.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
I thought it was solid. You know. It's hard to
rate stuff like this, right, Yeah, I know, I just
because it has like such a real purpose, and I
think and I think more stuff like that. I just
kind of thought of it as I sat here about
the short form because I thought, I was like, oh,
ten minutes, Like that's cool, and it's obviously, you know,
for a film festival time situation versus trying to get
into a theater. But I think more real short form
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stuff like that would would have a good impact. If
I'm thinking of the extra positives of this. It was
solid and I think more people, yeah, doing the TikTok
Instagram because that's where attention is, you know, then we
can make some hopefully real changes and help some folks.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Yeah, there's I don't know if you're aware of the
comedian Steve Hofstetter. One of his friends was dying of
cancer and he's who's a comedian too, but had not
you know, it didn't have the success on the same level.
And he brought him in to do some shows and
they actually like talked about the fact that he was
terminally ill and we're able to joke about it and stuff,
(45:42):
and it was like that, Actually, I found that very impactful.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Yeah, what's it funny? People have you seen that? I
have not? It's Adam Sandler and Rogan in them and
so Seth Rogan that is and so when you know,
you see the cover and you're like another like stoner film,
but it's basically about that, and I think it's really good,
Like it has really funny moments, but it's still like
actually good. Yeah, like they're still like trying to go
(46:05):
like you know, be famous, bang ticks or whatever. Like
there's side quest, but the story itself, I think is
a really good movie for Adam Sandler.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
You have any reflections or sea baths m I think
he has hit it like on the nail. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it was.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
I thought it was pretty good. Yeah, very like insightful.
There was one comment that I saw. I think it
was kind of like the same thing that you said,
where it was like the guy that was saying that
he like how depression kind of feels is like you
see your friends outside and you want to go outside,
but you literally can't open up the door, Like yeah,
yeah you just can't. I'm just like damn. Yeah, just
(46:44):
imagining that it is crazy. Yeah yeah, or even like
going through that sucks in general. Yeah for sure, Hey
she got a man, not just.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
Kidding, grab your.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
Just mess it around.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Yeah, but easy watch on YouTube. I'm surprised, was it
Andy Schultz to tie all these comedians in short form
in was he the first one? I think Netflix wouldn't
allow his shit, so he went full release YouTube. I
think he was real special.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
If he wasn't the first, he was one of the first.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
Yeah, Like I'm sure other people have done it, but
he was like the first one to do like full
production Netflix style and released it on there. I'm surprised
more documentaries haven't made that. And although we've watched some
on documentaries on YouTube, they're not like well done. Not
referring to this one, but like you know, the skateboard one. Yeah,
they're just like not like docs. But if you make
(47:43):
it a hitter and get a sponsor or two, you
could probably make your money back. Like I don't know
what Netflix is paying documentaries, you know, to buy them
or whatever, but like an hour video when you're getting
a hundred k views, like you're making some cash, and
documentaries are obviously the lowest legit you know, content versus
a Marvel or whatever the fuck. So I wonder if
(48:05):
that I hope that's a trend.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
You have, like your video documentaries where it's like a
dude just kind of set up like this.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot of those more
like uh yeah, like social media expose a's on like
a social media guy, and those are solid. Yeah, they're solid,
but like an actual Yeah, what was the one we
watched previous to this, Yeah, the Psilocybin one. Oh, even
the breafarv one. You shoot it like that on a
topic you want and you eat it onto YouTube. I
(48:33):
think that's the future.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
I wonder if that's what they're doing with the Sea
bum one.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
I ope, so, but I think it's generation iron. So
I bet that they always go pay wall or they
try to do DVD shits. I just feel like it
has so much potential and I feel like everything's head
in that way. We've talked about it lightly where Netflix
has dabbled into and not that that's free, but it's
close to free. It's as close to free as we
can get. They've dabbled in in the sports realm. Now
(48:57):
UFC is talking to Netflix to go full time there,
like pay per views dying, and so I wonder if
if I just feel like documentary is the perfect thing
to be highly produced and y eat on YouTube probably
make some money if you wanted, and still put out
a really good piece. It would probably go that way though,
because it's gonna get lost on Netflix. Like I feel
like if even if you make a sick documentary, Like
(49:17):
we like documentaries, want to talk this, and we just
like them, but I don't feel like the world really
watches them like that. You know, they're waiting for the
next you know, love killer movie or whatever the fuck.
You know, they just want I Love Island. Yeah, they're
waiting for the next Love Island dog shit on Netflix.
Like that's why people buy Netflix. Yeah, where where you
could find a niche better? In YouTube? Yeah, that's what
(49:38):
I would do. All my documentary directors that are listening,
I would make a banger and throw it on YouTube
and do do all the marketing, like fucking throw clips
everywhere and pay little ads or whatever. You know. But
I think you can make a move and still make
money and make something dope because it's just rare. Sports.
Sports dogs and animal dogs are like the only ones
that get money behind them. I feel like, yeah, I
(49:59):
think that's true, which sucks, and I love sports and
I love animal dogs like Planarious my shit, But yeah,
I just feel like there's cooler things to do. I agree,
go make movies, folks. New episodes every Wednesday. Thirstree barbe
sucking on california'lleere there, And I'm telling Mike I'm a
Sebasst underscore brand, b on.
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Speaker 2 (50:27):
Yeah, go see what's uping with fr
Uh junism is a is a lot of different official
months of things like like maybe an excessive number. You know,
it's it's Pride, it's there's three, four or five other ones,
and then it's Men's Mental Health Awareness Month.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I wonder why those are even like a thing. Not
that it's bad, but I do wonder, like does it
really do are they really doing some shit?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
That's a really good question. I don't know. I mean,
obviously Pride because there's a parade and parties and stuff everywhere,
and but like does that help? And I don't know in.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Twenty twenty five, like in nineteen ninety with you know,
I've seen the Milk documentary, yeah, and Milk the movie,
Like for sure we need to fight some shit. Yeah,
you know they're not saying that everything's clear, clear and
free now there's all everyone goes through struggles, and especially
smaller groups. I get it. But yeah, as a party
on the street with EDM fixing it.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I don't know. I think it's I think in most
holidays and official you know, months dedicated to a particular
cause are a certain percentage or a a an excuse
to gather or an excuse to party or whatever, and
(01:27):
then a certain percentage of raising awareness, but I don't
know how those and I think there's probably those percentages
flip depending upon what the subject is.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, and maybe I'm just a hater and just getting
too grumpy, but like a lot of it, I bet
we could just trickle down to some kind of political lobbying. Yeah,
and that's what That's what I just hate because I
don't hate the cause, but like, are they the cause
isn't fighting the cause. Someone's making money to fight the cause,
and that's why they're pushing all this shit, you know,
(01:57):
which sucks. And that's maybe why mental health gets slightly
less attention now, just because maybe there's less money to be.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Made other than drugs.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, I was gonna start on the light note before
we get into the deep.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Oh, I got two pieces before we actually get deep
into it. But they're both kind of related.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
But you got mine's very related. It may be similar,
but we may have the same thing. The man got arrested.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yes, I know this is the one that this is
one of the things on my list.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
This is really good, but I'm also skeptical. I'm wondering
if I spend too much time on the internet now
because everything I see, I feel like there's a sixty
percent chance it could be scripted. Uh maybe, but this
popped up. I don't think we can show them. And
I got the best screenshot of my life and I
sent it to Kyle and I said, what the fuck's
(02:40):
going on here? Look at this gentleman's eyes.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Uh yeah, that they're they're one of them is one
of his pupils is blown and the early black.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
The sun's directly on his face. Can you see it's up?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, and one is the size of a pin. Now
I'm not an eye doctor or doctor in any region,
but that doesn't look normal.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Uh No, No.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
The one and only, the one of two.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Brian Johnson.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, I was gonna say, mister Brian Johnson himself has
either really doubled down with this PR team.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Which seems unlikely because it is so out there that
he got arrested.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
But I was watching a lot. I did a deep dive,
and just some of it feels really weird, you know.
But he I saw it a couple of days ago,
within last maybe the weekend we're recording now, on a Wednesday,
where he was I don't know why, but he just
kept calling out Joe Rogan to fight him.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yes, this is what he said exactly, Joe Rogan, I'm
calling you out. My name's Liver King, Manton Man. I'm
picking a fight with you. I have no training in
jiu jitsu. You're a black belt. You should dismantle me.
But I'm picking a fight with you. Your rules. I'll come
to you whenever you're ready.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Another quote, Because he put out like six videos of
the same nature. A couple are semi normal for Liver King.
You know he's talking to the cam, but I think
he mentions he's two seventy in one of them, like,
I know you're trained, but I'm two seventy and I'm
an animal. And I said, well, maybe you were.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I don't think he's too seventy eight, not anymore. I
don't know if he could. He's five to five. How
could he possibly ever be too seventy.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, back in the day, maybe two fifty max, maybe
two forty. But he's definitely lost muscle and weight. Yeah,
his face looks incredibly unhealthy.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah, he looks like a he looks a catchers bit.
It looks so like a hairy ketcher spit.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
It looks so bad. His like you can get it
from any age and being tired, but you get like
black you know, like raccoon eyes or like puffy eyes.
His are like swollen beyond his like shape of his skull,
Like they look insane. And I know some of that
does come from Oregon issues. Some is just natural if
(04:58):
you don't get meat. Yeah, not the his own organs,
like his own kidney and liver. He's so focused on
eating ones, but he's not focused on his own health.
Then there's another one where he's doing some bear crawls
up to the camera and calls out Rogan to fight again.
And that one actually just looks like an insane person,
like what's the very famous sebash. He might be a
(05:19):
little young horror movie where the chick crawls out the TV.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Oh the ring ring.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
He's crawling at the camera like the fucking bitch in
the ring, calling out Rogan, looking literally insane. Yeah, and
then I guess he just I thought he is Texas, right,
He's somewhere in Texas, but I think so it sounds
like he went to Austin and is now stalking Rogan. Yes,
And that's where my script, you know, potential comes in
(05:47):
is there's three videos where I don't know if it's
manager who it is, but they're in his suite at
a very nice hotel, it looks like, and they're like
filming him ready to get arrested, and I know not
all arrests happen break down the door, fucking throw you
on the ground, right, Like if hypothetical, which is the rumor,
I think Rogan called somebody said hey, this guy's hunting
(06:09):
me down, then maybe they would do it a little
bit more cordially, but just the setup of that, he's
talking very sporadic and insane to begin with, so I'm
not both can be true. He could be off his rocker,
and it could also be scripted, which is sick if
that's what his PR team is doing, like actually disgusting.
(06:29):
But he's freaking out and someone's filming him and he's like, well,
can I bring my phone? And do I have to
wear clothes? And are they gonna arst me naked? And
oh I gotta go down, And there's like like a
vlog on Instagram of him getting clothes on, prepared to
go and like joking like, well I'll just take a shit,
like they can't arrest me while like shit right like
stuff like that, which is insane person talk, but it's
(06:49):
also feels like it's for the camera. I don't know,
it just felt very weird.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
I feel like it could definitely be both things. But
if you flash back a few weeks when we watched
the liver King documentary, toward the end of it, there
we were both thinking, okay, well, it's not just steroids, yeah,
that are flowing to this man's veins, like definitely like
a mushroom thing.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
And I saw rumors, rumors allegedly maybe hearsay on the
internet of meth yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
And math as we oh yeah, yeah, I know this
behavior looks like meth. Yeah, it doesn't look like mushers
or myth plus mushrooms. So it was.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Mostly the eyeballs that got me because it looks so crazy,
and I even think that eyeballs was before him calling
out Rogan. It was just another video that popped up
on my shit, and I was like, man, he looks
actually so unhealthy, because in the documentary he looked like
liver King, but he didn't look like he was this
this looks bad even compared to that, And so I
just googled around, like the pupil shits and then he
has blue mouth, and all his videos it looks like
(07:47):
he ate a blue like popsicle blueberry or something like that. No,
like blue popsicle like blue. And someone said, there's like
methyl lane or something like.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
A blue methyl yeah, blue methylne something to come off
of math. They yeah, theoretically, yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
But it sounds like it's probably yeah, just yeah, that's just.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Kind of caught on pretty recently.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I just recreationally, I just started saying that, yeah, right,
so then and his shit is bright blue, and I'm like, well, like,
even if you are, again, probably both are true, right,
because if you're trying to make content, you're not You're
not going to make content about your math. That's one
part you would hide. So you think it'd rinse his
mouth or whatever and figure that out. And then yeah,
(08:29):
I just googled around and obviously there's Reddit's about him,
but also just talks about pupils. The other idea is
that if you get smashed in the eye really really bad,
your pupils could stick like that. I guess I don't
know potentially, but that's so extreme. The one is so big.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I I mean, I have never been the kind of
person to subscribed to the the theory that all PR
is good PR. And so I don't understand how any
of this helps him in any way other than just
you know, it's going to bring some attention, but it's
going to be largely negative attention, and a lot of
(09:04):
people have already written the guy off, I think, And
so I think this just sort of pushes him further
down that road. I don't know who you know, when
you see something like this, you think, who is this for?
I think I saw, you know, James Coppola reposted somebody's
video where the guy was like, yeah, you need to
come down to the compound and lock in. Man, you
(09:25):
just need to lock in. You'll be okay're worried about you,
Just like, what the actual fuck?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
A couple more cold plunges, your fucking idiot.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Yeah, and anytime somebody says compound, I'm nervous about cultish
behavior and weird, weird manisphere shit.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
But good lord, I think the only way I disagree
with you is PR people that are too caught up
in their sauce and which case they believe that, Okay,
we'll show that he's fucking insane and then he'll recover
and they'll love him again. I like this good guy,
bad guy. Not that that's the path I would take.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Or I've been going all the way crazy before I
come back to saying.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
It's kind of like the Kanye.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
The Kanye right, right, because Kanye has done it, and
he's done it multiple times, and you know, I'm of
the belief Kanye is just slightly sick and he's he's
actually a very good analogy subs because I think he's both.
I think he has some mental problems and I also
think he's a genius creator and I think he's a
genius marketer. So he weaves these three unhealthily. Yeah, and
(10:31):
so maybe they are trying to play like a YA card,
which is insane. Yeah, And and you know all this
stuff is you know, you've turned the volume down, and
that's what the WWE is, Like I learned about all
this shit. I feel like watching the WWE because they're
just like marketing characters through good and bad this whole time,
and now people are trying to do it in real life.
But watching like the mini vlogs on Instagram of him
(10:54):
getting arrested just felt so weird. And then uh, yeah,
I already wasted too much of my brain on it.
But I was I was watching him get into the
truck and I tried to see the guy put him
in the truck, and I couldn't find a badge. He
had a vast and a gun and all the kit
and then then and then and then they won't like
show the car and it is an Explorer, but then
(11:14):
they pull zoom out and it's all blocked out, and
I'm like, maybe possible, but like, why wouldn't that just say,
like Austin p D like they're gonna you know. Yeah,
It's just that kind of stuff made me raise an
eyebrowt There's there's a clip of him getting in and
it is like semi cordial, you know, like they're not
chucking him in there. Uh, which again, if he's off
the rocker on meth and how he's acting in his videos, yeah,
(11:39):
you think he's just gonna like, yeah, I'll hop in
the truck like what you know, you know, willing we Yeah,
it just felt very weird. It felt very weird, but
it does obviously this episode we're talking about mental health
in a bit, and so that's Yeah, me and Jim
were on the same page seeing the same news factors.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
So this is from from k x A n in
in Austin. According to Austin Police Department, detectors contacted miss Rogan,
who stated he had never had any interaction with Johnson
and consider the posts to be threatening. Police located Johnson
at the four Season Four Seasons hotel around six pm
Tuesday and took him into custody, and additional Instagram video
(12:14):
posted around seven thirty pm shows who appears to be
Johnson wearing a burgundy hoodie and pants, handcuffed getting into
a police vehicle.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah. The vlogs on Instagram. I haven't checked, but I
imagine they're still up and he's putting that sweatsuit on.
He's just like walking around his fucking hotel room naked
or like in boxers with his wife and his PR
guy who's like in a suit.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
It's just all really really weird.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
And you know, I mean, the other possibility is this
PR guy is like he cannot keep a leash on
his client. Sure, and he, I mean, and what he's
there to try to do whatever he can to keep
a leash on his client, but he's not successful.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, and I do understand in modern day, why a
lot of people film everything? I guess Yeah, in your
hypothet to go why the PR guy is not evil?
Is like, yeah, you want to make sure your client's
not going to get beat the fuck up or mistreated
by the cops. Like I do understand that or just
witness what's gonna happen correctly. But it just feels weird
(13:13):
to me. And maybe I'm just that middle millennial where
I tip both ways, where like just like having your
camera out all the time feels weird, you know, like
that's not the first thing I even think of, And
like this is a crazy instance. If one of my
friends or clients is like getting arrested and threatening Joe
Rogan to fight him, then he's gonna die if he
does that. Like there's no way he fights Joe Rogan
of wins. Like I don't think like, oh, let me
(13:34):
just film it, Like I'm thinking about how can I
fix this problem?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yeah, what he was arrested for I read in another
article is terroristic threat. And terroristic threat is very subjective. Sure,
it doesn't necessarily it doesn't necessarily have a great definition,
you know, it's it's what well, and they asked Rogan
do you find this threatening? And he said, yes, I
(13:58):
find this threatening, so heuristic threat yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
And I would too, right, like yeah, like the guy's
talking insane, his pupils popping out his eye. The one
thing is though, like one, if it's one on one,
Rogan's gonna whoop your ass, and then two, I'm pretty
sure it's true that Rogan obviously has insane amounts of money,
like he has like ex Navy seals watching his house
twenty four seven. So well, yeah, that's good luck, bucko.
It would makes sense. But at the same time, like
(14:21):
it is well known that that Rogan got very paranoid
about his personal safety after the phil Harmon incident where
his wife, you know, killed him and I think the
kids on herself. I can't remember of the kids, but
she definitely killed him and then herself. Yeah, and that
was a really good friend of his.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Yeah, yeah, they were on they were on news radio.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Yeah no, but yeah, and beyond that, yeah, really good friend.
Ye yah. I think they're really good friends. And it
was all Andy Dick's fault because he Andy Dick's another one.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, Andy Dicks got Yeah, he's apparently now living in
a just read this. The other day in trailer park
Trailer Parking Springs.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Guys, I've admitted here many times in confession that I'm
really into degenerate ass live streams, And so they'll be
very small streamers, like not many views, and they'll just
be vlogging Hollywood or West Hollywood or whatever. And a
couple of them have I don't know if they're buddies
or just like met up with Andy Dick. This is
probably like last year, and they'd just be walking around
(15:21):
Hollywood Andy Dick. Uh and although nice in these moments,
you could just tell he's off his rocker for sure,
you see. You know Tom Green, I'm trying to think
of who else is kind of like Andy Dick.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Tom Green is not crazy though, no, but like same vibe.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
But I don't know what this motherfucker's about that you
never know what he's gonna do. But yeah, I'm just
meaning the same era of like comedy, same kind of
weird comedy because they're not Dave Chappelle and they're not
Martin Lawrence. You know, they're like mid level weird. I'm
trying to think of who else man like weird Al
Yankovic issue, I don't right like they're kind of this
(15:59):
this like level because Andy Dick never really made it,
although he's on big TV shows and stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah, he I think that the best way to say.
And he was a I mean he was a stand
up for a successful stand up for for a long time.
I think he just he sabotaged himself. I mean that's
the reason that he wasn't a bigger star is that
he sabotaged himself. And he sabotaged himself because he wasn't
a bigger star.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
He had one of the early boros, you know, one
of the early reality TV shows too, where it was
like Andy Dick's Mansion or something. It was like three episodes,
and I think it was too crazy and they shut
it off because he was like hard to work with
and obviously doing crazy shit. And even being a successful
comedian though even ten years ago, is such a different
thing to being a successful comedian now. Yeah, you know, right,
(16:43):
like successful comedian now you're flying private in a Rolls Royce.
Successful comedian, then you're getting picked up by HBO for
a movie. You know, like like you're still you're making
maybe one hundred K just being a comedian back in
the day, where now they're some of the richest folks.
You had to tour all the time, right, Yeah, and
you're not doing arenas.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I just I just realized very recently that a woman
who was in my first improv class back in twenty eighteen,
so I think she was still in high school or whatever,
she started doing stand up and she's fucking killing it.
She's her whole set is on the Netflix is a
(17:24):
Joke YouTube channel. She's like part was part of the
Netflix's a Joke Festival. Yeah, she's fucking hysterical. She's she's great,
and like, if you were in a scene with her,
you just never knew what she was going to say, Yeah,
and so you just had to like kind of go
with it.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Comedy is so cool.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah, shout out Ruby sed Nick.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah that's dope. She's from Sack.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Then she's from Sack.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. I mean obviously, like music, comedy,
like the business models changed a lot, uh, and there's
a lot more opportunity with TikTok and things, right, Like
you can absolutely pop off and you know, rogue on
those guys, the Shane Gillises or whatever, the Theo Vaughn's.
I've really blazed a path for people to have real success.
You know, we're back in the day. Yeah, you're doing clubs.
(18:06):
I just got introduced to it so early, like my
first good and bad, my first like bout of depression
in like high school. I didn't know what to do
with myself, and I was like, well, I got like
force something, you know, And so I just started going
to Blockbuster and renting every famous stand up comedy ever
and I just fell in love with stand up comedy.
Like in high school, many times.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
You watched Delirious.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
It was Delirious. It was like all the Martin Lawrence,
it was all the Chris Rock. I didn't go like
too far back, you know, cause the same issue we've
talked about, I didn't like old shit. So like I
was watching a lot of Chris Rock, a lot of
Martin Lawrence, early Dave Chappelle's even like really early Rogans
at the time, because he wasn't as popular obviously in five.
But I'm trying to think of who else I saw.
Dane Cook had a run there. Dane Cook's like CD
(18:46):
I think was number one selling in the nation and
it was just stand up CD.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
So you're way too young to have experienced the the
Steve Martin era, but he.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Watched his movies.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
He was hysterical but very off the wall.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, I watched like that's like what you might call
it kind of a humor is it Three Musketeers or whatever?
Or Three Amigos?
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Three Amigos?
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Right, So like I watched all those so I got
his vibe almost like Jim Carrey esque too, right, Like
he's just kind of like.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Goofy, except if Jim Carrey makes me uncomfortable and Steve
Martin doesn't.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Jim Carrey, Yeah, I mean talk about mental health. Jim
Carrey might be there too. It's just so hard to tell,
like either you're the best actor in the world or
you have to be the best actor in the world
because you're a little off.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I think it's I think it's a little bit of
mental health. But he's also really just like painfully smart man.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, that's that's kind of the I think I mentioned it.
I've seen his uh I don't know what the school was,
but he went to like an art college. Yeah, and
he does the uh whatever, the keynote or I don't
know the real term, but at the graduation. Yeah, yeah,
is a keynote. Is there a fancy term, it's just
a graduation. Yeah, he just did like and it's just
(19:53):
like beautiful, you know, it's just like literally, I know
he had killed it. Just twenty minutes of poetry, he
kills it. Yeah. He just hats a picture like he
could have been a rapper and just told the best
stories ever. Like he just his word and I think
it's like half off the cuff, you know, he really is. Yeah,
something special.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, yeah, Liver King Man, Liver King. I don't know
what the hell's going to go on there. The other
the other one that came up to me today or
actually yesterday, was in a game the White Sox versus
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the Diamondbacks in Chicago the other day, a fan, twenty
two year old fan, yelled out something to Katel Marte
about It was some comment about his mother. His mother
was killed in a in a car accident in twenty seventeen,
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and whatever this fan said was so upsetting that essentially
it stopped the game because he was like in tears,
like inconsolably in tears. No, I think it just hurt
him too bad. I think it just like got right
under the skin and whatever. So this guy has been
banned for life. But number one, that's a super shitty
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thing to do, and like and and like, who who
is the person with them with the most mental health issue?
In this equation, it's the guy who yelled something? But
to like, how, what's the what's the time clock on
grieving a parent, especially a parent lost in an accident
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or some something sudden whatever? You just you know you're
not prepared for it. How could you be?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yeah, that's so I always again be in this middle millennial.
I just blame that on the internet. That's just the
ship again. Like I'm I'm anti bowllying, but I do
think there's something when you're in third grade and you
tell the big kid, hey, you're fucking fat, and the
fucking kid punches you. There's a lesson to be learned there.
And this guy in the crowd has only lived on
the internet talking as much shit as he wont his
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whole time, and that's how he gets his attention. I
agree with you, he's the sick one because he just
feeds off any attention and he doesn't know how to
get good attention, so he gets bad attention and then
he's gonna go say whatever the fuck he wants with
no repercussions. That's why I kind of wish the baseball
player would, yeah, fucking at least punch him one, give
a little something.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I do not know what happened to him or a
fan after they I would have punched him after they
pulled him out, because it I mean, it could have been.
Anything could have happened. Yeah, it's just so shit, especially
especially on on the South Side Chicago. Yeah, any damn
thing could have happened to get for just you know,
making him making white Sox fans look bad.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah, well either way, Yeah, you're just a shit human.
Just stop doing Yeah, stop doing this, like what the fuck,
because you're gonna do that one day to the wrong
dude and you're gonna get fucking punched. Yeah, and you're
gonna deserve it at that point. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
No, for sure, I'm not I'm not of Island person,
but some people just need to be punched in the face.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Because you'll never learn. I mean, I've seen it before.
There's a clip I think from last year. I don't
even know where it was. But a lot of times
you can buy like you know, VIP experiences to games
and you get to go in the free food in
the back and it's something like that. And I don't
know if Russell Westbrook was injured or maybe it was
after the game or before, but I think he's in
regular clothes and he's walking through that hallway and there's
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fans back there, you know, at the little buffet. Yeah,
and someone says something to him like as close as
me and sebas are, and Westbrook just walks up to
him like, oh yeah, you know, like in Westbrook grew
up in I think a not great part of LA Like, yeah,
don't fuck around, man, Like he's a human. You would
never say that to any other human.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, there's no point in that.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, Like you're gonna go just say that to anybody
in the year walking through the mall and you just
blurt out everything you think, Like, shut the fuck up, man. Yeah, people,
it's ruining it. It's ruining it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
I don't understand. I understand because sports.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
The heckling's one thing, man, But like, just like keep
it about the game, hey, man, you can't shoot a
fucking free throw, you know, Like, talk all the shit
you want about the game, right, Don't talk about someone's family,
don't talk about them personally.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Yeah, I mean the only time that it can be
about that it can be personal is about performance, right yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
You're fucking trash or slow, you can't jump whatever the
fuck go crazy. And then the player, which it's similar
to you know, content or acting or whatever, Like, they
choose to show the world their sport, so then they
with the responsibility of making one hundred million dollars, you
also get to be criticized about your sport, right, because
that's a hot topic on ESPN and stuff. Man, they're
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so mean to players. But like that they chose to
make a lot of money, yeah, showing this right, If
I choose to make a lot of money doing painting,
you're allowed to criticize my paint, right, Like that's just
how it goes. But I didn't make a lot of
money about my mother. Don't talk about my fucking mother,
you know, exact and even like not on like some
crazy street shit. I obviously grew up in the suburbs,
but I've been around some street shit. Like you just
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don't talk about someone's mom. Like you talk about someone's mom,
they're gonna beat the fuck up as an adult. As
a kid, like, you just don't do that you know,
talk about their dad, talk about you don't talk about
their kids, you don't talk about their sister, and you
don't talk about their mother, or you deserve to get
beat the fuck up.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Yeah, I can't disagree with that.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yeah, it's just why what are you doing? It's so dumb,
especially in a situation like that where the dude's mom passed,
like so stupid.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Yeah yeah, it's like, what what do you hope to gain?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah, it's dumb.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
What do you hope to gain? You get to hurt
another human being for who has never done anything to you.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yeah, the best thing this guy could come is go
on TikTok and give a real apology now and make
it heartfelt, you little fuck.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yeah it sucks.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I mean I thought I thought it was bad the
other day. It was about a week or so ago
when a fan fan in San Francisco threw a ball
on the field during during play trash and there's actually
a video came out that's showing him doing it. You
think you're not gonna get caught, yeah, which of course happened,
right Uh, And I thought that that's that's bad behavior
(25:58):
in that person is probably banned from every ballpark for
life being an idiot, and he was again a young
dude being an idiot. It's like, maybe don't be an idiot.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
That's a I mean, you go and I get it, Like,
you know, I think it was eight years ago or
twelve years ago, Argentina played Brazil in Brazil and yeah,
there's fucking cups getting thrown like every piece of trash.
Imagine while getting thrown at the Argentina team walking out
the tunnel, Like I get it. And even that, not
that I think it's good. That's not as bad as
personally talking about a dude's mom, you know, like, what
the fuck are you doing? Yes, trash, Yeah, they're just.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
They're just just not justifiable at all, not even a
little bit. Ryan Johnson, Yeah, uh, flashing back to the
previous conversation. But part of the conversation. I am a
friend of mine who I will identify, met a politically
(26:51):
adjacent figure who will I also not identify, but you
know who I'm talking about. And I and we like
ask him, like, what's he like? And he said, I
he seems like he's suppressing the urge to have a
violent outburst every few seconds. It's like that's that's not
mentally healthy, And I don't know how somebody sustains a
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personal image.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yeah, that's credible. If that's the case, I'd imagine that's
the case of ninety nine percent of anyone in a
higher up political position in modern day. Maybe. So you know,
like back in the day, you're doing shit Like now
you're just a fucking puppet for whatever party, just playing
games all day. Yeah, it's bad, it's bad. Yeah. I
(27:38):
would never want to be in one of those shoes
no more. I know, you know, like I like politics,
I follow it and the listen to podcasts and all
like that. But that's like my drama again, that's like
my degenerate side of things. Yeah, but like actually doing it. Yeah,
imagine everything you have to suppress, whether it's knowledge, feelings, thoughts,
if you even want to have a moderate thought, you can't, yeah,
(27:59):
because you got to be pread to whatever side you're on.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, whatever whatever pull you're pulling toward.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah, whatever is going to get you voted in, you
got to say some crazy shit. It's kind of like
social media, honestly, right, because like and going about good
press bad press, you just need people to talk about you. Yeah,
And obviously it's not as extreme as like a liver
King take. But you got to say some crazy because
you say some moderate ship and now no one's going
to talk about you. You're not getting in the New
York Times, right, you got to say some crazy shit
on whatever party you want to be on. So then
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everyone's going to talk about you. They've got to make
a headline and.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
That, and of course that's polarizing, and then and then
the positions get calcified and know there's no middle ground anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yeah, now we're all fucked. Yeah, we're all fun for sure.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
So uh, I, you know, obviously wanted to talk a
little bit about men's mental health, you know, this month,
but that's it's an issue every single month. So that's
you know, Uh so what I did? I did? What
what what everyone does? I googled men's mental health documentaries
and there were a couple of options, and some of
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them were longer, but I thought this one, which is
called The Voices of Men, and it's on it's on YouTube,
and it is it's very accessible. It's you know, roughly
eleven minutes, and it's constructed in a different way than
I've seen documentaries done before. In part that it's a
(29:26):
short documentary and in part that I for anonymity reasons
or for for whatever reason, you only hear the voices
and there are you know, other images on the screen
that are somewhat sometimes reflective of what's being said and
off and not reflective of what's being said. Just basically
(29:50):
like sea best listen to it and you don't really
need you don't get any the visuals to get out
of it. I thought that that was a pretty effective approach.
It probably would have been more effective had we've seen
the guys sure directly talking. And this I must have
been done in the UK, because I.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Think it said like Manchester Film Festival or something that
suense about it, So I either it was entered or
one or something, so yeah, it does sound like the UK. Yeah,
I think it was probably just an artistic choice, and
I agree with you. I think I think it could
have gone either way. But I think it's still hit.
You know, it felt like it felt like a really
well done elongated TikTok, you know, which isn't like bad. Yeah,
(30:34):
because probably because in modern day again talking about music
and whatever else we were just talking about like to
get to get seen to get your message across. You
just want attention. And where does a tension line modern day,
especially for movies, it's not movie theaters and what you know,
it's TikTok and Instagram and that's how you gets your steps.
So if you're making a ten minute one, to kind
of make it like a good because some of my
(30:54):
TikTok or whatever reels the same shit is like that
motivational stuff, and some of it's good, you know, like
stuff they do like that you have a really good
speech over the background, and then the visuals kind of
have to do with it, but not directly, and you're
just seeing cool visuals also, So in that sense, I
liked it a lot. And and yeah, I think it
would be a coin flip whether seeing them, to me,
(31:16):
at least coin flip whether it's gonna be better or worse,
because it could go way better, but that could also
go way worse.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Way worse. Yeah, what the guys are talking about is
there whatever their particular struggle was with mental health or
has been with mental health. Some of it's PTSD, some
of it's being bullied as a child, some of it bipolar.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Even I think the PTSD guys, Yeah, and I think
he even mentioned PTSD prior to war. Yeah, because he
was a soldier who was enlisted and he was American,
I believe. Yeah. I think that there's definitely at least
because some of the stats they wrote up there, which
subus didn't see, probably were said the US, like us
is this versus the rest of the world or something,
And I think that's like again like being a good TikTok.
(32:01):
And I say that because, like mental health obviously is
something we've talked about over the years here, but it
is like a good reminder of how crazy some of
these stats are. And then it's a good reminder because
like I don't want to call it propaganda, but what's
talked about popularly is not that it's less important or
more important, but it's often talk about soldiers PTSD very important.
(32:22):
I think we should talk about that. But like PTSD
can come from other stuff, right, And obviously this gentleman's
was triggered by like a bipolar in life situations or
I forgot the other movie we did. I think it
was like the uh Psychedelics one, one of the psychedelics
one we did, and we were talking about their PTSD
because that lady. Remember the lady that like lost her brother,
(32:44):
her mom or dog, like all in the same year. Like,
that's gonna fuck, you're a lot up. Yeah, that's like
a lot to handle. Talk about sudden deaths out of nowhere,
and so like some of that I think was really
really good and not that again the other stuff is
less important, but it's just talked about more.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
You know, of course, if you're going to war, you're
going to come back a little razzled. Yeah, and we
should try to help that and fix that by all means.
But to hear other stories of yeah, I mean, what
what did happen to that lad? Her brother got shot
and then her mom got shot or something. I think
her brother overdosed, then her mother roommate went crazy. No,
I think her mother killed her significant other and herself. Yeah,
(33:21):
and then the dog was scratching at the door yeah
yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
And then whenever she would go to her house, her
dog would like scratch at the door because she's excited
or it's excited.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, while her out, and she didn't remember that. Yeah,
so that's why she did the yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
which is insane as well.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Good memory there, Yeah, that was good.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
That was really good. Yeah, it uh but yeah, overall
I think it was really cool. And again, like I
think there's a good way, because what are the chances
someone goes to a Netflix and clicks on, you know,
two hour long male's mental health exactly.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah, that was my thing because if the other you know,
the other runner up for this was when that was
about two hours long, I thought, I don't know if
I want to even slog through that like my I mean, sure,
it's I'm sure that it's good, but like on a
day to day basis, my mental health can be challenged
as well, you know, and it is sometimes too easy
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to absorb the the downside of somebody's experience.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
No, I think that's everything. Yeah, when we talk about
all the time, I mean literally, the clothing company is
called good company, and it's because like the energy you
stimulus you put in yourself is what you're going to
reflect eventually. And so if you're watching those things and
just like the likelihood of someone scrolling and coming across
a clip from this on TikTok, which I'm sure it
was clipped up. I think it's what two or three
years old or something like that, It is much more likely. Again,
(34:43):
and if you want to get your message across, the
chance of someone's scrolling around and they see Batman Forever
or they see a documentary on Netflix, I'm probably clicking
Batman Forever, you know, like that's just the honest truth.
And I like documentaries. But if we're trying to again
going back to I guess my original question of make
an impact with these important subject X is like just
labeling the month, going to do that? Or is something
(35:04):
like this. I kind of like that they went short form. Yeah,
snippets that hit yeah, both emotionally and just reminders of
you know, like males being double the percentage of females
that commits suicide. And we've talked about we even had
your Friend on, you know, we had Havoc on and yeah,
we've had many conversations about this, and I hope not,
(35:26):
but it's likely when you get into your thirties, forties
and fifties, you know someone that took their own life,
you know, and so these things start to hit a
little bit. A The first person I knew I was
twenty and he was one of my favorite, you know, students.
He was one of my favorite kids I coached. He
was fucking sixteen, you know, like it's just insane that
you'll come across it. But because the cliches get thrown
(35:48):
out all the time, but I do believe them, Like,
you don't know what other people are going through, man,
So if you can make a positive impact with the
hello or hey man, your hair looks good today, or
you crack a joke, like, you don't know how far
that might go, and every interaction you have day to day.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
And I think that things have kind of changed over
time too, interested in terms of you know it is
this is probably the safest time in history for guys
to be open about how they feel about shit.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
That's true. Yeah, it goes back to the other stuff
I was talking about, like these braids and stuff are awesome,
and there's still work to be done, but we're also
in a pretty good place. Yeah, we're much better than
we used to do with all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Definitely better than we used to be. We were watching
the show the other night that's said in the early sixties,
and there's this particularly poignant scene that they've built up
to for episodes and episodes and episodes where this guy
who's a he's a he's a vicar, an Anglican vicar.
He's not a not a priest, but a vicar.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
And he.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
He was a foundling, like he was left on a
doorstep and he was raised by another vicar and whatever.
And he finds out, you know, deep into his thirties,
that his mother had left a note for him with
his him in the basket or in the cardboard box
or whatever he was in and you know, really struggles
(37:07):
with whether or not he should actually read it, because
he could he could be disappointing, it could be crushy.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
You have to but you're reading that, bitch, yeah, And
so like that.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
It's it's a kind of a detective mystery, that cozy
detective mystery show. And he works with a with a
cop and he says that I need to know what's
on it, but I can't read it. You have to
do it, and so the friend has to read it
to him, and of course it's very emotional. But the
thing that got me is that he reaches out his
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hand to his friend who just just read it, and
he holds his hand. Now, today there would be hucks,
but I can tell you that in the early fucking sixties,
there were not those kind of hucks. It didn't happen,
and I remember, like it was like a core memory
from you know, church as a kid, that that was.
That was the full length and breadth of the expression.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Most of the time. That's just so American, though I
feel like too, and obviously, as you said that European,
but like like Latin America. You know, you're kissing people
like we've joked about our what are like my best
friend's dad's a big Italian guy and in high school's
grabbed my fucking head and just kissing my face when
you know, like it's just like so uh yeah, so western,
I guess whatever. Guargentina, same thing. You know, I go
(38:22):
there in sixth grade and everyone kisses you on the
cheek regardless. It is a culture shocked to me being
in sixth grade, right, But yeah, in America, you're right,
it's been a fifty years of sixty years of big change.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Yeah, yeah, for sure, I.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Mean good and bad again because the same thing with
the social media and the politics we're talking about, then
it gets spread right either like you got to be
a dude, not even look a dude in the eyes,
only smoke cigars and drink whiskey or you know, or
you're gay, like you know. Like again, there's no middle
ground on this stuff. Yeah, there's no gray area, but
that's how they talk. Like if you scroll on reels
right now, that conversation is very prominent about like what
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a man is or like we need to get away
from this and that. And I agree obviously with the
middle ground because I agree with both, like, yeah, some
dudes do need to toughen up nowadays. Again to my bully,
bullying being good speech, and then uh, the opposite, some
dudes just think they're too tough and like, yeah, man,
you just need to hugg a brower every once in
a while. Yeah, like yeah, put down the cigar and
(39:18):
just fucking it's okay you can talk about being sad.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Yeah, I think about this, this place, this gym is
being kind of the huggiest place on earth. I've never
gotten more hugs in my entire life than.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Should I grew up my every day bro shouly the
same people yeah, still hugging.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Ye.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. I think that's like
a bigger picture of just where the world is because
although we're like more connected than ever through the Internet,
social media and maybe you talk to more people or
get more impressions a day or more people's opinions. Today
you're further away from people, and so when you have
a real community, which we're lucky to have here at
Third Street, yeah, it's a lot more normal to do
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normal communal things.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Yeah, Yeah, for sure. It's I find it very reassuring
that it's possible and that that you know, no, it is,
and and you kind of see like some of the
some of the people who are not necessarily have not
not necessarily been given the hugs from everybody who suddenly
like they kind of creep up on it, and then
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it sort of just kind of happens, and then it's
then it's a pattern from that and forward.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Now. I think it's a beauty of sport, you know.
I think that's why everyone should do some kind of sport,
because you don't get that same thing. Like you could
have a dive bar that everyone goes to every single
weekend and everyone knows each other's name, but you're not
going to get that. No, you know, you can have
a whatever it might be. But there's something about sport.
There's something about like struggling together, having a commonality and
then obviously, yeah, the friendships I come with it, I
(40:44):
think is very important and going to be even more
important as we go forward here with Terminator taken over. Yeah,
with the AI, right, I mean everyone's working at home still,
everyone's on your phone still, Like, it's just more and
more important to find a community that that has a
positive impact in your life. And not that you know,
you don't have to you can't invibe an alcohol and
things on your own time, but that's probably not the
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pushing forward positive community you need.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Yeah, it seems like there's I mean, since the pandemic,
there's more social isolation, but at this stage of the game,
there is more also relief for that social isolation if
people pursue it.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Yeah, it just takes effort. You got to pursue it.
Pursue It's the biggest word is trust me. I want
to be at home. Yeah, Like I'm the most anti
social person in the world, but like I forced my here.
Obviously I'm lucky because it's work, so I get to
show up and see people. But even when I'm in
Las Vegas or traveling, like I consciously say, like I
have to do people once a week, Like I have
to go do something. Otherwise I would easily be happy
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on my computer. And I understand that that is the
easy route. But everyone needs it, whether you whether you
like it or not, you need it.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
One of the speakers in this video talked about how
like I want to get up and get out, I
want to do whatever, and I just can't make myself.
I think the real value of this thing is for
for guys and you know women too, to just not
feel like they're unique in the world in a negative way,
(42:13):
like I'm i a am I the only person who
feels this way. I'm not the only person who could
possibly care about what the fuck happens to me or whatever.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
You know.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
It's it's it's something that that that even if you're
not going through a struggle, you can listen to it
and think, well, I identify with that some I mean
some of that is me.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Yeah. I had both thoughts when I was listening to
it because of the speakers or the and hopefully they're
telling true stories and they're not just voice actors. Because
it felt pretty real.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
No, it sounded pretty real.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
Yeah, I thought so too, as I thought both routes
should be good and it's something I criticize both physically
in sport and in the mental health situation, where it's great,
we're talking about all this stuff, but as the pendulum swings,
now everyone's O c D, anxiety and depression, like right,
where if you hopefully hopefully you don't, and then stats
(43:03):
show that not everyone's obviously deals with diagnosable depression and
bipolar and whatever those words to get thrown around that
if you don't, every humans sad, but not every human
has depression. Everyone feels depression, not everyone has depression. Yeah,
everyone feels pain. Not everyone's injured, right, And so hopefully
if you you know, I hope you're not, and you
(43:23):
listen to this, you can relate and say, oh, like
I don't, actually I'm not. I don't feel that, Like
I haven't been stuck on a couch, you know, like,
and I hope you haven't. But then, like you said,
the people that have, like, yeah, I get that. And
then when he was talking about that, I've been there.
You know, I've literally not moved from a couch for months,
you know, like six weeks straight. I literally didn't leave
a couch. So yeah, both sides, I hope hopefully some
(43:47):
realize like oh, I am blessed to not deal with that.
I do get sad, but I don't know those depths.
And then the others that do know those depths say, oh, man,
like yeah, I feel that probably like preach.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
And I mean, it just didn't by way of any
kind of criticism of this at all. There was because
there was no voiceover or anything like that. There was
no distinction between the people who are depressed because of
situations because or depressed because they actually have a depressive
mood disorder and they have no control over it at all.
(44:21):
It just hits them, like, you know, it's like a
storm that comes out of nowhere.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
If something crazy happens in your life, you have no car,
you're broke, everyone's dying, you get divorced, Like you're gonna be.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Sad, Yeah, situationally depressed.
Speaker 2 (44:32):
Yeah, like you're gonna be sad, but like yeah, when
the storm comes and everything seemingly okay, Yeah, probably a
different conversation.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
Yeah, yeah, but it was solid.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
I thought it was solid. You know. It's hard to
rate stuff like this, right, Yeah, I know, I just
because it has like such a real purpose, and I
think and I think more stuff like that. I just
kind of thought of it as I sat here about
the short form because I thought, I was like, oh,
ten minutes, Like that's cool, and it's obviously, you know,
for a film festival time situation versus trying to get
into a theater. But I think more real short form
(45:05):
stuff like that would would have a good impact. If
I'm thinking of the extra positives of this. It was
solid and I think more people, yeah, doing the TikTok
Instagram because that's where attention is, you know, then we
can make some hopefully real changes and help some folks.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
Yeah, there's I don't know if you're aware of the
comedian Steve Hofstetter. One of his friends was dying of
cancer and he's who's a comedian too, but had not
you know, it didn't have the success on the same level.
And he brought him in to do some shows and
they actually like talked about the fact that he was
terminally ill and we're able to joke about it and stuff,
(45:42):
and it was like that, Actually, I found that very impactful.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Yeah, what's it funny? People have you seen that? I
have not? It's Adam Sandler and Rogan in them and
so Seth Rogan that is and so when you know,
you see the cover and you're like another like stoner film,
but it's basically about that, and I think it's really good,
Like it has really funny moments, but it's still like
actually good. Yeah, like they're still like trying to go
(46:05):
like you know, be famous, bang ticks or whatever. Like
there's side quest, but the story itself, I think is
a really good movie for Adam Sandler.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
You have any reflections or sea baths m I think
he has hit it like on the nail. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it was.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
I thought it was pretty good. Yeah, very like insightful.
There was one comment that I saw. I think it
was kind of like the same thing that you said,
where it was like the guy that was saying that
he like how depression kind of feels is like you
see your friends outside and you want to go outside,
but you literally can't open up the door, Like yeah,
yeah you just can't. I'm just like damn. Yeah, just
(46:44):
imagining that it is crazy. Yeah yeah, or even like
going through that sucks in general. Yeah for sure, Hey
she got a man, not just.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
Kidding, grab your.
Speaker 1 (46:57):
Just mess it around.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
Yeah, but easy watch on YouTube. I'm surprised, was it
Andy Schultz to tie all these comedians in short form
in was he the first one? I think Netflix wouldn't
allow his shit, so he went full release YouTube. I
think he was real special.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
If he wasn't the first, he was one of the first.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
Yeah, Like I'm sure other people have done it, but
he was like the first one to do like full
production Netflix style and released it on there. I'm surprised
more documentaries haven't made that. And although we've watched some
on documentaries on YouTube, they're not like well done. Not
referring to this one, but like you know, the skateboard one. Yeah,
they're just like not like docs. But if you make
(47:43):
it a hitter and get a sponsor or two, you
could probably make your money back. Like I don't know
what Netflix is paying documentaries, you know, to buy them
or whatever, but like an hour video when you're getting
a hundred k views, like you're making some cash, and
documentaries are obviously the lowest legit you know, content versus
a Marvel or whatever the fuck. So I wonder if
(48:05):
that I hope that's a trend.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
You have, like your video documentaries where it's like a
dude just kind of set up like this.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot of those more
like uh yeah, like social media expose a's on like
a social media guy, and those are solid. Yeah, they're solid,
but like an actual Yeah, what was the one we
watched previous to this, Yeah, the Psilocybin one. Oh, even
the breafarv one. You shoot it like that on a
topic you want and you eat it onto YouTube. I
(48:33):
think that's the future.
Speaker 3 (48:34):
I wonder if that's what they're doing with the Sea
bum one.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
I ope, so, but I think it's generation iron. So
I bet that they always go pay wall or they
try to do DVD shits. I just feel like it
has so much potential and I feel like everything's head
in that way. We've talked about it lightly where Netflix
has dabbled into and not that that's free, but it's
close to free. It's as close to free as we
can get. They've dabbled in in the sports realm. Now
(48:57):
UFC is talking to Netflix to go full time there,
like pay per views dying, and so I wonder if
if I just feel like documentary is the perfect thing
to be highly produced and y eat on YouTube probably
make some money if you wanted, and still put out
a really good piece. It would probably go that way though,
because it's gonna get lost on Netflix. Like I feel
like if even if you make a sick documentary, Like
(49:17):
we like documentaries, want to talk this, and we just
like them, but I don't feel like the world really
watches them like that. You know, they're waiting for the
next you know, love killer movie or whatever the fuck.
You know, they just want I Love Island. Yeah, they're
waiting for the next Love Island dog shit on Netflix.
Like that's why people buy Netflix. Yeah, where where you
could find a niche better? In YouTube? Yeah, that's what
(49:38):
I would do. All my documentary directors that are listening,
I would make a banger and throw it on YouTube
and do do all the marketing, like fucking throw clips
everywhere and pay little ads or whatever. You know. But
I think you can make a move and still make
money and make something dope because it's just rare. Sports.
Sports dogs and animal dogs are like the only ones
that get money behind them. I feel like, yeah, I
(49:59):
think that's true, which sucks, and I love sports and
I love animal dogs like Planarious my shit, But yeah,
I just feel like there's cooler things to do. I agree,
go make movies, folks. New episodes every Wednesday. Thirstree barbe
sucking on california'lleere there, And I'm telling Mike I'm a
Sebasst underscore brand, b on.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
Ig, I am Attheesia McDean all the social media. This
show has fifty percent facts for a percentage of the word,
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Prime Podcast association with our media on the obscure celebrity
didn't work. I We'll talk you next time and take
care of your mental health. Guys.
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Yeah, go see what's uping with fr
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