September 4, 2024 • 46 mins
You probably think that pulling sumo is the biggest variation between deadlifts, but there are many more. It can even be challenging to tell the conditions of a particular lift, let alone compare them. Is it wrong to “game” the system to get a deadlift record?
Similarly, should major sports all-star teams have standards – beyond just being a popularity contest?
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Similarly, should major sports all-star teams have standards – beyond just being a popularity contest?
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
So we've got deadlift issues, and I've had this issue
for my whole goddamn life. You know, we got the
used to be multiply versus raw, and then raw got
confusing because there's classic and the non classic, and knee
raps and not knee raps. And then you know, the
origination of powerlifting issues is how many federations all have
different rules. That it seemed like we were coming together
(00:32):
a little bit. People are starting to walk out their lifts.
Not that a care. I'm not a purist, but I
just want standard. So everyone's walking out their lists. And
then the only differentiation seemed to be untested and tested
in deadlift bar and stiff.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Bar and.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yeah, but at least there's not argues about it. That's
through every FED. That standard.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
It's not yeah standard and everybody can do it.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah, you can do it every FED besides Homeboys strong
lifts or whatever the fuck you can't sumo there beside
the point. So Brandy Terry, one of the strongest human
beings to walk the planet, a homie of ours, talked
to her earlier this summer, and I've complained about it
in strong Man too, because people say, like the biggest
(01:14):
deadlift ever, but then they're using straps, they're using equipment
often not always, but a lot of those guys will
throw on a suit and then they have these elephant
bars that are eight thousand feet wide, and they're clearly
gonna whip more. Right, So we just I just want
to compare apples to apples, That's all I want to do. Again,
I'm not a purist. I'm all for an evolution, but
if we could, if we could just kind of figure
(01:36):
out Yeah, I think she pulled six eleven. So Brandy
was aheading to fucking Ireland because there's a championship fed
there that I believe is untested and they use a
stiff bar, which is probably the first that I've heard of.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah. I know when I'm untested, my bars very stiff. Yeah,
whoa yeoh hello.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah. So she was heading out there because I think
she's just trying to obviously, and Brandy is very competitive
and shout out to her for that, like she wants
to legitimately show that she is yeahes in the conversation,
you know, she wants to be equal to and show
what she can do everywhere where most people don't. Right,
old school powerlifting is actually the opposite, which most people
(02:22):
don't know. But it was so snaky how many teams
and lifters and people would wiggle through federations and wiggle
through rules to try to get elite right, or win
or lift in a get a fake record, or it
was all ego.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, get an elite in a different weight class.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, motherfuckers are cutting this and that twenty four hours
and just bullshit ways they're cheesing the system, which is
like just so foreign to me, and after you know,
living on this planet for thirty six years.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
But if you're not cheating, you're not winning.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, you're not trying. I just never understood that. Like
even like basketball, there's guys that are trying to pull
jerseys and pinch you in the posts and stuff like
I just never understood that mindset, Like I just want
to be better than you and I want to prove
it and I want everyone to know it. If I'm
pinching you and doing stepping on your feet in the post, like,
I fucking hate that shit. I'll talk a little shit,
(03:20):
but even that, I didn't talk that much shit until
you know, someone would started me. I just hate that energy.
And there's a lot of people with that energy. And
I remember even the first couple of times, I was
probably like a kid playing video games, and I could
feel one of the homies had that energy, like do
anything to win, And to me, do anything to win
isn't the right mindset, right, Like people say that's Kobe's mindset,
(03:43):
but it's not. Kobe would do the right things to win.
Like Kobe's putting in the work to get to where
he wants to be. He's not fucking cheesing the system
to fucking win. And a lot of powerlifters historically have
been like that, probably still are for whatever reason. And
so shout out to Brandy to not do that. She's
competed in a monolift, she's competed walked out, she's competed sleeve,
(04:03):
she competed wrapped, and now she's like, well, there was
another lady who's pulled the biggest poll ever on a
stiff bar, and Brandy's a wal I'm going to go
chase that. So she went all the way to Ireland
to do that, and I think she succeeded. I think
she not only won the meet, but I think she
has the biggest deadlift ever by a woman. On a
stiff bar now, I believe at six eleven. I think
(04:24):
the other one was usapl right, and she was the
one that did the tour on like Ellen Degenerous and
all that shit. I think she pulled six hundred on
the dot stiff bar. I forgot her name, but that
was a couple of years ago. But I think Brandy
just pulled yeah, six eleven stiff bar, and her best
pole ever is like six forty five I think on
a deadlift bar, which shows the discrepancy, which is just
(04:46):
is what it is. But so now I don't think
she has the biggest poll on a deadlift bar currently,
but she's definitely in the conversation she had it at
one point. Someone might have taken it.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
There's no way to tell that from open pier listing.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
No, I think so is there. Yeah, if you go
to the top of the probably just it would probably
be if you go all feds, it'll just likely be
a deadlift bar rather than a stiff bar. So I
think she had that at one point, and then if not,
she's definitely in the conversation. It's within like ten pounds,
and so now she has a stiff bar, So shout
out to her. Shout out to Ireland for doing it.
(05:20):
I mean the support has been pretty European for a while,
you know. Shout out of boy Mumby. Like I know,
there's a lot of folks in London and shit that powerlift,
which is cool. Same week I saw a bunch of
really big deadlifts and the other thing is people don't
note it. That's even snaky to me, So shout out
to Brian Shaw, old friend of ours. Brian had the
Shaw Classic, which has turned into a huge strongman event
(05:44):
soon too. If not already equal the world's strongest man,
he has the best competitors. I saw pictures of the facility.
It looks fucking sick. He's got everything going for him,
And shout out to him because I know how hard
events are to pull off like that, and he's grown
it from literally I think, being in his garage to now.
It looked insane. It looks sick, so shout out to Brian.
But those guys are pulling giant deadlifts.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I saw Hooper on those guys pulling into the high
nine hundreds. But I don't know what fucking bar it's
on one. They have straps, so we already got to
eliminate it from my opinion of the world's biggest deadlift,
because at least the standard's got to be with your
goddamn hands. Not that strong men aren't strong or their
deadlifts don't count, but if we got to have some
standard here, and if we're adding too much equipment, you're
(06:28):
fucking out. So but I saw those guys pulling well
into the nines. I don't think someone pulled a g
which makes me think it was a regular deadlift bar.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Possibly. I can't actually figure this out.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
You haven't used a websit a long ast.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, I'm sorry, guys, I don't understand how your stuff works.
I'm very I'm very confused.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Dot org means you're smart. The more orgs you're on,
the more GUVs you're on.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Well, yeah, dot com is like open, like want to
buy it. It's like I could figure out what but that's
I'm trying to be in records.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Maybe go rankings, try rankings.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
You see this is me, this which is everything.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
But I think you can click deadlift and it'll short it.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Well, maybe somebody can, but I can't.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, I thought maybe deadlift sorted. I haven't been on
the website a long time.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
No, I'm just kidding. Christy Hawkins is forty three, No.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Idea a lot of strong buckos.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Denise Herbert actually, I think is the one that had
the stiff bar deadlift. There six she had the stiff
bar deadlift and yeah, right there it shows her overall
deadlift at six forty two. I'm trying to see another number.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
That's so crazy. That's that's that's a big deadlift. Yeah,
that's you know.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, Brandy might have it all time.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Then forty pounds above my.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Equipped Yeah, yeah, Brandy's there at six forty one. Wraps
one sixty five to be RPF. Either way, the sport
is moving. People are getting stronger, faster.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Better.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I do uh, I do wonder. Yeah, the the show
Classic look very cool. It did, and I mostly only
saw clips because there's too much sports going on for
me to keep up. I was watching the jiu jitsu
tournament that went on shout out by Boy Nicki Rod
the first ever winner in the Craig Jones Invitational million
(08:28):
bucks for choking out Man's which is dope man. Nicki
was one of the coolest guests we we've probably ever interviewed. Yes,
shout out to Nicky. Huge, huge for the sport, for
jiu jitsu. I mean, if jiu jitsu can do that,
there's no way powerlifting can. Like it's just a brain
behind it jiu jitsu. The more I do dive into
(08:52):
it and have friends in it, I do see the
parallels with powerlifting. One of the biggest comments in an
interview I saw there, which is maybe the guy who
runs ADCC, which is like the World Cup of Powerlifting,
a very prestigious and international competition, which was also this weekend.
I think it was him, but it might have been
somebody else who was speaking about people who watched jiu
(09:14):
jitsu and saying that nine out of ten are jiu
jitsu practitioners or participants, and I was talking to said
about off air, which is very similar to powerlifting. You know,
anyone who's watching an online powerlifting meet is either like
your mom or probably ten out of ten someone who
did lists in squats, which is a limiting factor of
(09:34):
the growth of the sport. So how do you how
do you change that? I think adding money changes it.
I was watching that jiu jitsu thing because I knew
a million bucks were on the line. Obviously my homie
was in it. I wanted to watch Nikki and there's
a couple classic UFC champs in there. Luke rock Hold
and some other people were in the tournament, which made
it cool. There were names that I was familiar with,
but UFC is probably the opposite. If you watch the UFC,
(09:58):
it's probably one out of ten of them actually practice
a martial art. Most of them are just drunk, fucking honkys,
you know. Most of them are just people like me,
just wanna bees watching people beat the fuck out of
each other, you know, And so I do wonder what
that switches that changes that you know, like obviously stand
up basically bare knuckle, you got eight ounce gloves on
(10:21):
is very interesting because you know, some crazy shit can
happen versus a deadlift, even a choke out, like a
really dynamic match in jiu jitsu is still just not
the same as you know, a flying fucking Superman punch
and all this stuff. It's just visually not the same
and powerlifting right the same thing. There's another really interesting
(10:41):
interview that got like tense between I forgot that guy's name,
but he's basically kind of a fringe sports commentator in
Dana White were sitting down chatting, and the guy was
basically telling Dana how power slap's so dumb and and
and his argument was actually the same as mine, but
I don't think you voiced it that good. So Dana
(11:04):
kind of won the exchange where he was basically just
saying that He's like, dude, it's just like not variable enough.
You know, guy goes up, he swings his right hand
and the other guy gets knocked out or he doesn't.
And that is true.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
It's true. That's very binary.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, right, And same with powerlifting.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
You either get the lift or you don't.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
You're gonna load the weight up and you're gonna load
they make it.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
They give you the weight or they give you the
lift that they don't.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
And that's it, right. Where again, like and Dana's argument
is like, well, mma is the same. I was like, well,
it's just not you know, like way too many things. Yeah,
and I'm not a practitioner by any means, but there's chokes,
and there's kicks, and there's punches, and a guy could
get knocked out or he could just get t ko
and how it happens is different. Everything literally every single time.
How it happens is different.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, UFC, I mean to make it the same, it
would have to be just takedowns, or even even then
just one part of it.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, but even then, I think it's gonna be different
because you're gonna grab an ankle different, you're gonna grab
a kne different. In power slap, you're literally using your
dominant hand and you're only allowed to hit like six inches. Yeah,
there's only one place you can hit. It's kind of
like the most variance of powerlufl thing is like sumo unconventional,
like yoah, who's what's it gonna pull? Where again? Like
yeah basketball, Yeah, you're putting a ball through a net,
(12:15):
but the amount of ways that it happens literally has
never been replicated. The variables are a trillion. Sure someone
shot it from the corner, but how that ball ended
up in the corner, how exact trajectory of the shot,
like visually is different every single time. And same with
m A. Yes, multiple guys have been knocked out with
the left hook, but how that left hook got there,
(12:37):
how it visually looks is different every single time. Where again, Yeah,
power slap and powerlifting are just so stagnant in every
sense of the word.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, we like every home run was not hit the
same way because.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
The pitch is different. Who's an outfield?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Every touchdown did not happen the same.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
The score of the game and the pressure of the game,
whether it's middle the season or a playoff or lay in,
all of it matters so much. The dynamic between the
brain games of the batter and the picture, Like, there's
so many more things going on rather than yeah, ball,
Sure we could break them all down ball make contact
with bat, but the externals are crazy. Where I agree
(13:17):
power Slap isn't And I still have watched Power Slap.
I watched it live, I've watched the clips. I don't
mind watching it, and obviously I watched powerlifting and jiu
jitsu is much more dynamic than those. But still, I mean,
it got a lot of views. Bro I was watching
Saturday Sunday Nicky Rod's first match had one hundred thousand
live viewers. Good lord, you know, and jiu jitsu has
(13:45):
grown for multiple reasons. UFC guys like Nicki creating YouTube content.
Craig Jones his coach Gordon Ryan, although he's their enemy,
has gained a lot of popularity. Rogan, obviously, Joco, will Nick,
all these all these big podcasters and faces are into
jiu jitsu, so that's helped the sport grow as well.
(14:06):
But but the rocks on on Instagram squatting and squatting
hasn't gotten more popular necessarily, you know what I mean. Like,
so there's something else missing for sure, I just don't
know what it is.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
My daughter in law admitted to me yesterday that she
had no idea that Joe Rogan did anything, but the
podcasts like did not realize she was that he was
a stand up. It's like, yeah, no, I've I've actually
like seen Rogan in person a couple of times. I've
met Rogan. He's a stand up, Yeah, it'd be the great.
He's not a very good stand up anymore, but.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
No, I think his stand up's always been a nice
seven out of ten.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
But being kind of mid yeah, like he's.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Funnier than most, Like he's funnier than I would be,
but in the comedy realm, he's not that fun. Now,
that same thing happened to me in the gym, and
I'm not going to throw you under the bus. But
they had no clue it was a comedian either. I
thought he was whatever you.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Use to see generation.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I don't know though, because his Netflix special got a
lot of promo. Yeah, and it just dropped this month.
I haven't watched it. I'm sure it's okay, but yeah,
I've seen some of his old stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Like I've seen people comment today it was trash a
new one.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah, we saw him live. He was all right, he
was all right. His live This Last Would We Seem
last year was one of his better sets I've seen. Like,
I've seen probably all whatever eight of his biggest specials,
and some are decent. I once sticks in my head.
I forget the stick. But he had a bit on
like uh Noah's Ark that was pretty funny, and this
(15:30):
last time he was decent. But but the other guy's
on the Yeah, I was.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Gonna say that. Other people like overshadowed that.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Yeah. Yeah. Even David Luke is our buddy, like we're
crushing it, and he is funny. He's like a funny guy.
But I'm a funny guy too, And I'm not a
stand up comedian, you know, Like there's there's so much
difference and what comedy is as entertainment is changing, though,
you know, shout out to Tony Hinchcliff, like kill Tony's
a phenomena. Like that's a live ad lib show basically,
(15:57):
and and it's kind of like the modern day raunchy
who's lines it anyways?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
And Yeah, but at the same time that that's not new,
that's been around no time. It just kind of caught
the guys more lately.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, over the last four years, it's just taken off. Yeah,
but he's done it. I think as long as Rogan's
been podcasting, like twenty ten.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, long long time.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yeah, which is really cool to shut out to them.
And David Lucas, our buddy's a big part of that show,
and I think he was even found on that show
and then it's now like a regular It would be
fun to see live. But even that there was a
Rogan on that is almost even funnier because like just
it's kind of like the uh cliffs and movies where
you see an actor can't like hold it and they
(16:36):
laugh like Saturay Night Live used to be a sh Yeah. Yeah,
that's fun to see when comedians are genuinely laughing at
each other. Yeah, that shit's good. And I think they
just did a big show in Madison Square Garden. Yeah,
live kill Tony, which is pretty cool. Yeah, because we
saw Yeah, we met all those guys. We met Hingecliff,
we met Rogan, we were there and even Hingecliff live.
You know, no offense Homeie, Like he's just funnier off
(16:56):
the tip than he is like a set.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
That's why some comics crowd work is better than any
of their material.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, half of his set was just crowdworking. It was
hilarious and then he goes into his beds and they're
they're good. Yeah. But I've been into comedy since forever,
but especially when I was in high school, I got
really into stand up comedy. And it is cool how
it's gotten more popular. Like back then it was rare.
I would go rent the DVD from Hollywood and you
(17:25):
had to like go on the corner to find it
to find like an Eddie Murphy or Chris Rock or something.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Is.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, they're very not popular. But if if Hollywood was
a thing right now, you'd probably walk in. It'd probably
be on the main stage.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah maybe so.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, like Netflix, it is Netflix, you click on it,
and some of those stand ups when they're new.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah, when they're new, they're.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Right on that front page. You're clicking on whoever Joe
Coroy or whoever the fuck's going on. You just even
have them as household names. I feel as rare, right,
because Eddie Murphy and them weren't really household names. So
they got into the movies. Yeah, yeah, or they got
the household names because they did both, Yeah, Pryor maybe Saturday.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Night Live, Eddie Murphy also Steve Martin Saturday Night Live
as guest host.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, but not because of their stand up stand up
because not because of.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Their stick because people hadn't seen that. It wasn't until
Delirious came out. It wasn't until you know, Steve Martin
is a wild and crazy guy. Yeah, that one and
one before that when we that one he was in
the jerk and then they go crazy with that movie
that went that went pretty pretty big.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Richard Pryor I think the only one that was like
a stand up guy. But even that you could probably
argue from his his appearances on movies. Carlin, Oh yeah,
Carlon o g obviously, but a lot of those guys
that Adam Sandler's and whatever, like even still people don't
know Adam Sandler's a stand up comedian. They think of
him as Happy Gilmour. Right, but he started. I think
he had a He just dropped a special, right. I
(18:50):
think Adam did too. I should watch it. I haven't
watched any lately, but I think Adam Sandler just dropped.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I think Say and Arthur doing a sequel with the water.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Boy Happy Gidmore Happy. And I was getting an ad
for extras.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Oh really, Yeah, I should have.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
That would just be sooo vegas. I don't know. I
think it was here I got to add this weekend,
but I don't know why I got it. Maybe age
group or something. Oh maybe I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
It was like like a like an email or was
it like it?
Speaker 1 (19:18):
No, it's like Instagram ad. It was an Instagram ad
and it was like, you know, fucking two days worth
of work for two hundred bucks if you weren't in
SAG Yeah, I saw my god, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
You gotta you gotta talk to get Yeah a sad card.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Yeah. Maybe they would have just snuck me in for
a couple of jokes, but it would have been worth it. No,
I don't know where this all went.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Jiu jitsu.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Oh so much sports going on. That's where it went.
College sports are in PAC twelve is no more. You
probably don't even know what that is.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
So goddam I didn't watch sports growing up. Broke my
little heart.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
The PAC twelve is our league. It's our league. We're
supposed to be the guys, U C, L, a USC,
UC Berkeley, Oregon, Washington, Washington State, Oregon State. It's the
West Coast League. Gone gone, just like that, just like that.
Why why the big business shit? I don't understand. So
other leagues absorbed them. I think the Big twelve, which
(20:16):
is my favorite league, Ohio State and all them absorbed
a ton of them. So I think ucla USC went
into that league.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Are they gonna start playing like across the country.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
That's kind of cool though, yeah maybe maybe Financially they're
just more able to now, right because when these leagues
started eighty years ago, it makes sense for Berkeley not
to go play Ohio, yeah, because they didn't have the
billion dollar Budweiser sponsor. But now they do and so
the Nike sponsorship. So now it's much easier for those
schools to yeah, go play, you know, yeah like Obama,
(20:47):
you Penn and whatever, yeah, so that'll be good, and
it does make it more competitive. I have wondered why
they haven't just made it a national college league, right,
like why don't why don't you run it like the
European soccer where say you have twenty teams. Football is
obviously a little bit harder because they just played less games.
But let's say you have twenty teams and the bottom
(21:07):
five of that league go down to the other league
next year, and the top five of the bottom league
whatever that is, gets to go into the next.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah, it sort of makes sense. Like in the A
few years ago, Major League Baseball made a change where
now they call it the balance schedule, where every team
plays every other team during the regular season. Sure they don't,
it doesn't you know, it doesn't doesn't wait until like
playoff season before people.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Go dision all right, right, right, yeah, yeah, I think
it's good and bad. I think it's good for competitiveness,
but then it's maybe bad for like rivalries.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah, it does. It cuts down the number of games
in natural.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yes, and so NBA similar You play every team I
believe in the in the season for sure, but you'll
play your division more.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah. Then and they still play their division a bit more. Yeah, yeah,
but it used to they cut down the number of
number of games by like I don't know, six or
nine or something total games no versus your versus your
your division.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah, I think there's plus and minuses there the Yeah,
a lot of sports have like changed, I feel like
pretty drastically over the last like five years, where like
even the NBA having a play in a seasonal tournament.
They have a tournament every Christmas. Now that's cool though,
I think it's really cool, and baseball should probably try
to do something same because the season is so long.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
They used to Yeah, like why do you there used
to be, well, there used to be two All Star Games. Yeah,
like there's still there's one and in the middle of
the season, sort of in the middle of the season.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Yeah, but like you don't care about baseball games in June.
But I think that and the players probably don't either. Yeah,
And that's the issue. And and the.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
All Star Games back to being just a just an
exhibition and it is only it's a popularity contest. It's
only yeah, it's it's fans that I don't think that
that's maybe the right it's way to choose.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I think it's not the right way with the amount
of weight we put on the term All Star. Yeah. Right,
then it's the same with the basketball like when you
say like, oh he's a like, they'll still say like
Kobe Bryant sixteen time All Star, Like that's part of
your thing. And then if it's only fan voted, now,
now you got to run a funny Twitter right now,
You've got to do some extra curriculars to be funny
(23:24):
to get some fan base. And then it's obviously just
by city, Like no Kings player was in the All
Star Game last year and you're like, well, I don't
know about all that. Ye, it was just fan vote. Yeah, right,
and it probably should be more like a Hall of
Fame vote where they have like selected committee, whether it's
like ex players and ex coaches or current coaches even.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Or you've just run it purely on stats.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, stats can be a little baseball maybe baseball, Yeah,
it's just so statistic. Yeah, one, it's just so stats based.
You either hit the ball or you don't. Or basketball,
there's just so many other minutes. Football, there's more minutes.
You know, you gotta have shit staft and still be
like the guy or not the guy. But you know,
and then yeah, what if there's ties.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Put them both on you. I mean most most players
don't play more than two or three innings in anyway.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yeah, that's for sure. Yeah. I mean that's a lot
of controversy over the men's basketball US program for similar things,
which is the opposite. It's not fan base. And now
they're calling politics and they're yelling at Steve Kerr and
and a lot of the ex players are coming out
and saying stuff too. So I do wonder if there's
some vendetta. You don't know, because they're human. It's not
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everyone's gonna like everybody, you know. Yeah, I don't know
if it.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Was purely based on popularity popularity among other players, would
a Pete Rose or a Barry Bonds ever have been
in an All Star game?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, you don't know. Yeah, And people say the same
thing about Yeah, Isaiah Thomas from Detroit Pistons. Everyone says
that everyone just hated him. Yeah, everyone just says they
hit it.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I wondered with the Hall of Fame stuff too. That's
a big conversation obviously, still floating around with the Pete Roses,
and I think they just gave Reggie Bush's heisman back.
Maybe I'm wrong. I think that's correct, you know, And
then there's still, yeah, the Barry Bonds Hall of Fame argument,
the Pete Rose argument. I think those are the still
the biggest.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
I think that that because the Giants are having so
much trouble this year with hitting, I think they should
just bring Barry back for the rest of the season
and reset his retirement because he never actually formally announced
his retirement. Reset it give him another five years to throw.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
What is he forty five? No, he's probably older. He's
probably fifty, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I don't think he's well. And I think maybe he
just turned fifteen. He gets still hit? Why not?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
He could try? For sure, it definitely gets asides in seats.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I believe he could. Yeah, I mean their home park
is one of the hardest to hit a home running.
And he did it. You know, he did it before
he was ju step.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
So, yeah, what's the oldest six like elevant baseball player,
not right now, but like through time, like how old
are and oh yeah, what was he early forties?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Forties?
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Because you would still think if you're not a pitcher
in baseball, And maybe this is my bias to get to.
You would think you'd be able to have a pretty
fucking long career. Yeah, if you took care of yourself
and you played outfield.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah theoretically, as long as you didn't crash into the
wall too many times or right to one of your
other outfielders. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah, like pictures, I understand, Like you're just putting where catchers,
I understand you're putting where.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yeah, shortstop, first base, third base. Those are hard positions
you start. If you lose a step, it's very difficult too.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I just don't on top. But that's my point is
I don't think you lose a step if you keep going.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, maybe not.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Like look at Lebron and obviously he's a specimen and
a half, but guys in the MLB or specimens too.
There's specimens all over the place. But I just feel
like maybe they get laxed like Lebron. I mean, they say,
and who knows, right that he spends millions on his
like and he's obviously doing it, but who knows what
he could be.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
A place by a robot at this point.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
That's what they say. They say he spends millions on
like his health, you know, but that's chef. You know,
that's the trainer, but still like just to see him
do that and in the dynamic, in the minutes that
he plays, there's just no way a baseball player can't
do that. Or Tom Brady was what forty three? Yeah,
like that's insane, that's actually insane. Lebron's forty This year,
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I was looking through like oldest players all time. I
think Kevin Willis and Robert Parrish were two the oldest.
They played in the NBA and played minutes when they're
forty four.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I can't remember who it was. I was watching pitch
the other day who was forty and he's a right
handed pitcher, and that just this is something that doesn't happen.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah, again, left handers kind of can kind of go forever,
but right odds.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah, yeah, I understand pitching because it is just reps
and wear and tear, but like you're playing fucking third
base or outfield, just stay in shape. You should be
able to rock to your forty five.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah, I mean, I agree it doesn't play out like that,
but I I do agree. I just wonder why it doesn't.
And if you're like if you're a minor leaguer and
you haven't made it to the majors by the time
when you're twenty six to twenty seven, you're not good.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
That's rough because you've got to be fast and you
obviously need your step, but you don't have to be
the fastest. It's different than a wide receiver. If you're
a wide receiver, you have to be the fastest or
you're just not good. That twenty five year old's going to.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Come grab you. They're playing around and they'll and they'll
have to do it in the minor leagues first. So
if they do it at all with saying that a
pitcher has to stay in for a starting pitcher has
to stand for six innings.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Interesting, that would change the whole game.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yeah, I would dramatically change the game back to the
more the way it was to go for So they
would change the conditioning for sure, dramatically, and change your off.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Season a little bit, change our trade, your draft.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yeah, and it would it would affect the length of
careers in a big way.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I think the only way you do that is if
you shorten the schedule, and then I think I think
you would definitely see more home runs and yeah, just
more yeahentage goes up or whatever, because you know, either
that or we figure out how to make it possible
for more pitchers to go past six or ages of
the sixth inning.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yeah, I don't mind that rule changes. But then for
the longevity of the athlete, you just need to shorten
the schedule, and so does the NBA, Like eighty two games.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I know it's a money they're talking about adding more, right,
I know, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Potentially, I don't think they will though, It's just none
of it makes sense. All of it's just money driven
because athletes don't want it.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I remember going from high school and if you make
a run in high school, you're doing you know, twenty
to thirty games, that's like a playoff run. And then
college like the baseline's thirty games, and that felt like
forever bro Let alone, going from college thirty forty fifty
games to eighty two games, like there's it's just not
fun and it's not good on your body. It's literal
only good for the owner's wallets. That's all it is.
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And baseball is the same. It makes the games boring,
players are checked out. Yeah, like there's just no reason
for it.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I don't understand the economics of any of the major
league sports, how they're just millions and millions and millions
of dollars, and how they're going to continue to be
because it is the way that TV's changed.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
What was the big one this year? NFL to Netflix,
NBA to at Netflix, Netflix, snag somebody NBA. Yeah, next
year than twenty twenty five to twenty six. I think
this is a This is the last year of TNT.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Last year in TNT, so it's twenty five twenty six, Yeah, which.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Is huge for Netflix to I mean, yeah, that's a
billion dollar investment and it will pay off, I think
because like Hulu's been the sports place for whatever, but
they don't really own.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
And more more internationally, Disney Plus has internationally been a
big sports think.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
That they had they own ESPN. It makes sense they had.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Soccer, but it wasn't on ESPN, it was on Disney Plus.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
I know, I'm just saying they own it all.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yeah, Like I don't know why. I don't know. ESPN
is more of a Western for sure brand.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Yeah, I don't even know ESPN's popular in Europe.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
I'm sure it does something, but yeah, it's definitely American, Yeah,
because all the talk shows, I mean even yeah, yeah,
Netflix doing that's huge because even Hulu having sports was
more like that. Like it's because they had a relationship
with ABC. It's not like they bought it. Amazon Prime
is the only one that I know bought it bought
it first because I think they had Thursday night football
games like every other week for a while. Now they
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might have every Thursday. But it is changing the landscape
of all of it fast.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
And they put together this bundle that's like forty nine
bucks a month, But the question is, like who are
they going to sell it to.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
None of that's really worth it. Like YouTube TV, in
my opinion, really is still just like the best. It's
seventy bucks and you get literally everything besides like HBO
and Netflix exclusives. But otherwise you're gonna get literally everything
where again, yeah, if you want to watch that, otherwise
you got to get ten different packages of twenty bucks. Right,
(31:56):
And Netflix and HBO are obviously probably the leaders and
like independent stuff, right, they're making their own their own production.
But everywhere else you're just getting regurgitated shit, right Disney sure,
but a lot of that stuff you're going to get
on a random replay on YouTube. It does. It does
(32:17):
kind of like make it difficult. You're gonna end up
spending one hundred and fifty bucks if you like movies. Yeah,
yeah it sucks. And sports like I have don't. I
literally got out of watching sports because of that, Like
you just can't find them.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah, you know, more challenging.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah, you need to get like three different systems if
you want to watch soccer and basketball and football.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Right, which is what they're trying to address with this bundle.
But I don't think. I think it's like who who
is interested in all of those? Number one? And it's
going to pay that much for it. It's just like, yeah,
I don't know, it's a lot. It's they're just streaming,
is trying to recreate cable and I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah, it's literally just turning into cable, which is what
YouTube TV is.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, and there's nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah, but totally unrelated note, And this is going to
be like because we're we're doing a whole batch recording
this week because we've got travel stuff coming up. I
saw Alien Romulus.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Oh yeah, did it come out this week or came
out last week? I came out from I saw the previews.
It does look kind of scary. It's good. Yeah you
saw too. Have you seen the old ones out?
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
You gotta go, Yeah, you gotta go check in.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Oh no, I remember you talking about like last week's podcast, Yeah,
talking about the rebugs and I was like, I was
waiting for it. I was like, we are they going
to show the rebu Yeah? Yeah, she was like going
down the ladder.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
I think I might have there. Uh yeah, you should
watch for sure. Alien and Aliens Okay, like the first
Aliens one and two, Yeah, one and too, Yeah, one
and two. They're gonna be like boring for you, but
if you'll like them, if you like dive in look
at it from like a cinematic storytelling.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yeah, I like how like the whole thing was shot.
Yeah that's fire. Yeah, beautifully shot. Yeah, it's amazingly shot.
And the budget was less than I was expecting based
on you know, based on how it looks. H It
is chronologically between the first two movies. Okay, so it's
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twenty twenty years after the first movie and it's little
thirty four years or thirty seven years before the second one.
Oh seven years.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
You can probably find the other ones on like Amazon
Prime or sure they're yeah classic Classic, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Yeah, there are. I think they're on Max, but I
think that you can get them with commercials on some
of the other But the look is very similar. But
it also it literally incorporates pieces of all of the
movies except for the Alien Versus Predator stuff.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah. I like those two, but those are like a
Guilty Watch or whatever, you know.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
They're like it's they're like watching a video game.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, mashup. You know what you're getting into. Yeah, no,
it is. It's the crossover, that's all.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
It's non cannon. But but they made a Predator movie
that went straight to video that it was incredibly popular
called Prey.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
What's the one is it Adrian Brody or who's a
Hella famous cat that was in one of them maybe
ten years ago. It's a predator Predators. They're on the planet,
I don't know, spoiler alert. They're on the planet being
hunted by the young predators. That one was solid actually,
because I can at least differentiate when something's like I
(35:26):
like it, but it's trash, you know, yeah, Predator, the Predator.
Maybe maybe Swiss is actor.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
I don't think this is it? Who is in Prey?
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Kegan Key is in fucking this one. This is not
what I'm talking about. What's he doing in there? Twenty eighteen,
twenty twenty two. There's so many it is Adrian Brody. Really,
Predators twenty ten, that's just not a good name. Predators, Predators,
(35:59):
that's like fucking eight. I play Epex, everything's about being
a pread Pray.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Is uh.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Aali And Covenant. I don't think I saw that. There's
so many.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
No.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Covenant is the second one of the prequels that Ridley
Scott's returned to the franchise. I hated the first one
so much that the second one seems better, but it
wasn't any good, just the amount of hate. First Ray
I see it twenty twenty two, Yeah, twenty twenty two,
Like it did. It was very well reviewed. People loved it.
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And it's a Predator sequel.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
You haven't seen this one?
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Yeah, it's supposed to be really really good, but a
lot of them.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
I kind of like Predators is the only okay one
twenty ten, But the other ones are just like, yeah,
they're like not even john Wick, because john Wick, at
least the first one has like a decent like story,
you know, but like they're kind of like that, like
it's like you just pure shoot them up. Okay, so
you're just going in just yeah, yeah, yeah, they're fight
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and then they're invisible and the news shit, you know,
we're like that is the basis of those movies. Like
have you seen the original Predator with Arnold Schwarzenegger, Like
it is a shoot them up, but there is a
lot of slow parts, kind of like Aliens, Like it's
kind of actually slow, like there's build up. But that's
the beauty in it, right, It's like fucking edging all
the time, so to speak.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
I actually just rewatched Alien, and I'm in the process
of rewatching Aliens, even though I think I watched it
a couple of months ago. I've seen that movie a bunch.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
It's just so good.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
They're just so well done, Like they're they're both nearly
perfect movies.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
What started the crossover not same director?
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Oh you mean Predator? Yeah? Oh, I think it was
just money.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
It was just like.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
I think I think it started actually as a video game.
Oh actually and then and actually Romulus is based the
first versions of the script were based off of Alien, Isolation,
which is a video game, and then it evolved away
from that.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Yeah, you know, have you seen it now?
Speaker 2 (38:04):
You just I just know what it is, Dylan, your
son up a bit.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yeah, Yeah, it's good. It's good. That's probably my favorite.
I'm not a huge like Arnold guy. That's probably my
favorite Ronold movie.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Praise on Hulu, by the way, but it's it's a
skilled warrior of the Commanche nation fights to protect her
tribe against one of the first highly evolved predators to
land on Earth. So very different premise. And I think
that this one, Romulus is a very different premise because it's, uh,
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they're trying to Actually it's similar to the premise of
Star Trek Prodigy, to be honest with you. It's like
people who are somewhat captive slaves who are trying to
escape from their situation.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
That's kind of like, uh, the one with Adrian Brody.
I like, I think, I don't know if there's prisoners,
but they all just end up on a random planet
together and then they're being hunted.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
This one, they're they're they're forced it's forced labor miners.
They're miners, and they're miners at least they have been
since they were miners.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Yeah, it's definitely worth the watch. And I mean, like
Alien is like the Suspends suspense thriller.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Yeah, Aliens, but the gold standard of the Aliens a
horror movie. Aliens is a an action movie with horror
and romulus sits right in the between those.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Yeah, all with like sci fi shrinks and the.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
The synthetic the Android and it's probably you know what,
probably one actually I don't know, one of the best
performances in the movie, for sure, Andy, Yeah, one of
the best performances in the movie, for sure, and just
an outstanding performance. And Android in one of these movies.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Yeah, I think the way he switched, he went from
like child as yeah, yeah to like full blown yeah Android.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Yeah. And yes, and the pawn character, the guy the
guy that yeah yeah, yeah, that is there is a
digital recreation of the same actor from the first movie,
who also was a synth Yeah. That's kind of cool. Yeah. Anyway,
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highly recommend.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
I haven't seen any movies this summer.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
It sucks.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Should go see something I just didn't.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
I think I said this before, Like if a new
movie comes out and it's at the Imax, I go
on Friday Yeah, it's fun Friday two o'clock to thirty
whatever going. There's ten to fifteen people in there. I
don't have to deal with, you know.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Yeah, that's what I used to do. I used to
do is like a Tuesday deal all alone, like Tuesday
late mornings. That's when I saw like Endgame, when the
world's on fire, everyone's buying tickets, but like Tuesday at eleven,
they aren't. Yeah, exactly, you know, i'd see all that shit.
But I mean this summer was actually probably the first
decent summer movies, right, Yeah, like Deadpool everyone said was good,
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like some of my homies. Yeah, I liked it. Even
Bad Boys got really good reviews, really good reviews.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
I think more business than the last one.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
No, the last one was the last one is just like, uh,
the fanfare stuff, you know, they're just feeding you. But
that everyone said this is the best one since the
first one. Obviously the inside out to everyone says it
was good. Aliens people say it was good. There's like
four or five movies that people say are legitimately good,
which I feels like the first time it was twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Yeah, that that we're getting summer blockbusters that feel like
summer blockbusters.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Yeah, but people enjoy movies.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
There's still is not and nearly as many movies available
to go see.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Yeah what it used to be. Yeah, I scroll Fandango
and there's like three movies that you stater yeah, yeah,
which is funny because it used to be like seven. Yeah,
and they would last longer, right, they stretch them out,
but the contracts different. Right. Netflix is knocking on fucking
Aliens door right now saying, hey, how soon can.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
We do There's a there's a series coming. Yeah, there's
a serious coming Alien Earth. Yeah, that's what it's called.
Right there. There, there's and and there's a spinoff series
from The Batman called The Penguin Penguin.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
I think I saw.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Colin Farrell Yeahengin.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Yeah, I've seen all that.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
And there and Dune has a spin off.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Batman like when you Zoom could when you zoom out
of Batman. It probably has the lamest uh bad guys,
Like the Penguin's pretty bad. The Riddler, Yeah, the Riddler's
pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Arnold Arnold obviously ruined it. But like mister Freeze could
be cool, but Arnold kind of made a corny corny
in a fun way, how did your face is creepy?
Jokers creepy?
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Kind of the interesting thing about all the they called
the Rogues Gallery, the Batman Villains, they're all mentally ill.
That's why you have Arkham Asylum right right right there
on every single freaking one of them, is that none
of them is.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Just the penguin's fucking quacking and.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Ye, whereas when you if you go over to Superman,
they're all aliens, like Luthor is just an evil businessman.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Right, and Spider Man is kind of like that. King
Pin was the big one and yeah, and the other
ones are all experimental fails like he is. Yeah, you know,
they all got sapped or bit or fell.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Some kind of mutant in human whatever.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Yeah, it is funny. I think there's a new Villains World.
Is it Disneyland, disney World, Disney World, I think, or
Universal Buck I get it mixed up. But one of
them is building like the first ever like Villain Park,
which is kind of dope. Yeah, it might be universal.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
I think it might be universal. Yeah, the best is
checking for us.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Yeah, I think it's universal, which is fun too.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
That world seems to be doing good business wise too.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
The world's picking up. We're doing okay world.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
He's building a bunch of new ships in uh, for.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Sure in Florida. But that's been like the overall plant.
I think they have like hundreds of acres that they
own that they haven't touched.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Oh yeah no, but I'm in building like cruise ships.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Oh that for sure.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Disney's building a two or three news cruise ship. I
just saw the biggest Like hell, to me, that sounds
like the place I never want to be.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Well, I love Disney and theme parks, but yeah, like
when you go to that, you know it's only for
like eight year olds.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Oh, Disney's making a villain's land.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Maybe they both are, Yeah, that's probably a world. Yeah, yeah,
I think both are opening shit up. I think the
world's biggest cruise ship currently just stocked up in Miami,
and I saw a video of it pulling in, And
part of it's my brain, but part of it's also
like CGI and AI and Shiit like it looks fake.
It's literally like thirty hotels just moving down the water.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
How many fingers does it have?
Speaker 1 (44:42):
It looks insane? Have you said I think they saw fingers? Though,
I think they saw fingers fucked.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Some, yeah, some of them.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
That was the beginning. Yeah, that was the beginning. We
weren't univers was doing monster Land. Monster Land. All right,
that'll be fire too, because yeah, either way they'll be fire.
But this, yeah, this cruise ship was insane. Well that's
cool though. I'm glad, like one, things are getting money
too rather than just the bullshit that bogs down our world.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
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Speaker 3 (46:00):
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So we've got deadlift issues, and I've had this issue
for my whole goddamn life. You know, we got the
used to be multiply versus raw, and then raw got
confusing because there's classic and the non classic, and knee
raps and not knee raps. And then you know, the
origination of powerlifting issues is how many federations all have
different rules. That it seemed like we were coming together
(00:32):
a little bit. People are starting to walk out their lifts.
Not that a care. I'm not a purist, but I
just want standard. So everyone's walking out their lists. And
then the only differentiation seemed to be untested and tested
in deadlift bar and stiff.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Bar and.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yeah, but at least there's not argues about it. That's
through every FED. That standard.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
It's not yeah standard and everybody can do it.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah, you can do it every FED besides Homeboys strong
lifts or whatever the fuck you can't sumo there beside
the point. So Brandy Terry, one of the strongest human
beings to walk the planet, a homie of ours, talked
to her earlier this summer, and I've complained about it
in strong Man too, because people say, like the biggest
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deadlift ever, but then they're using straps, they're using equipment
often not always, but a lot of those guys will
throw on a suit and then they have these elephant
bars that are eight thousand feet wide, and they're clearly
gonna whip more. Right, So we just I just want
to compare apples to apples, That's all I want to do. Again,
I'm not a purist. I'm all for an evolution, but
if we could, if we could just kind of figure
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out Yeah, I think she pulled six eleven. So Brandy
was aheading to fucking Ireland because there's a championship fed
there that I believe is untested and they use a
stiff bar, which is probably the first that I've heard of.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah. I know when I'm untested, my bars very stiff. Yeah,
whoa yeoh hello.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah. So she was heading out there because I think
she's just trying to obviously, and Brandy is very competitive
and shout out to her for that, like she wants
to legitimately show that she is yeahes in the conversation,
you know, she wants to be equal to and show
what she can do everywhere where most people don't. Right,
old school powerlifting is actually the opposite, which most people
(02:22):
don't know. But it was so snaky how many teams
and lifters and people would wiggle through federations and wiggle
through rules to try to get elite right, or win
or lift in a get a fake record, or it
was all ego.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, get an elite in a different weight class.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, motherfuckers are cutting this and that twenty four hours
and just bullshit ways they're cheesing the system, which is
like just so foreign to me, and after you know,
living on this planet for thirty six years.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
But if you're not cheating, you're not winning.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, you're not trying. I just never understood that. Like
even like basketball, there's guys that are trying to pull
jerseys and pinch you in the posts and stuff like
I just never understood that mindset, Like I just want
to be better than you and I want to prove
it and I want everyone to know it. If I'm
pinching you and doing stepping on your feet in the post, like,
I fucking hate that shit. I'll talk a little shit,
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but even that, I didn't talk that much shit until
you know, someone would started me. I just hate that energy.
And there's a lot of people with that energy. And
I remember even the first couple of times, I was
probably like a kid playing video games, and I could
feel one of the homies had that energy, like do
anything to win, And to me, do anything to win
isn't the right mindset, right, Like people say that's Kobe's mindset,
(03:43):
but it's not. Kobe would do the right things to win.
Like Kobe's putting in the work to get to where
he wants to be. He's not fucking cheesing the system
to fucking win. And a lot of powerlifters historically have
been like that, probably still are for whatever reason. And
so shout out to Brandy to not do that. She's
competed in a monolift, she's competed walked out, she's competed sleeve,
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she competed wrapped, and now she's like, well, there was
another lady who's pulled the biggest poll ever on a
stiff bar, and Brandy's a wal I'm going to go
chase that. So she went all the way to Ireland
to do that, and I think she succeeded. I think
she not only won the meet, but I think she
has the biggest deadlift ever by a woman. On a
stiff bar now, I believe at six eleven. I think
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the other one was usapl right, and she was the
one that did the tour on like Ellen Degenerous and
all that shit. I think she pulled six hundred on
the dot stiff bar. I forgot her name, but that
was a couple of years ago. But I think Brandy
just pulled yeah, six eleven stiff bar, and her best
pole ever is like six forty five I think on
a deadlift bar, which shows the discrepancy, which is just
(04:46):
is what it is. But so now I don't think
she has the biggest poll on a deadlift bar currently,
but she's definitely in the conversation she had it at
one point. Someone might have taken it.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
There's no way to tell that from open pier listing.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
No, I think so is there. Yeah, if you go
to the top of the probably just it would probably
be if you go all feds, it'll just likely be
a deadlift bar rather than a stiff bar. So I
think she had that at one point, and then if not,
she's definitely in the conversation. It's within like ten pounds,
and so now she has a stiff bar, So shout
out to her. Shout out to Ireland for doing it.
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I mean the support has been pretty European for a while,
you know. Shout out of boy Mumby. Like I know,
there's a lot of folks in London and shit that powerlift,
which is cool. Same week I saw a bunch of
really big deadlifts and the other thing is people don't
note it. That's even snaky to me, So shout out
to Brian Shaw, old friend of ours. Brian had the
Shaw Classic, which has turned into a huge strongman event
(05:44):
soon too. If not already equal the world's strongest man,
he has the best competitors. I saw pictures of the facility.
It looks fucking sick. He's got everything going for him,
And shout out to him because I know how hard
events are to pull off like that, and he's grown
it from literally I think, being in his garage to now.
It looked insane. It looks sick, so shout out to Brian.
But those guys are pulling giant deadlifts.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
You know.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I saw Hooper on those guys pulling into the high
nine hundreds. But I don't know what fucking bar it's
on one. They have straps, so we already got to
eliminate it from my opinion of the world's biggest deadlift,
because at least the standard's got to be with your
goddamn hands. Not that strong men aren't strong or their
deadlifts don't count, but if we got to have some
standard here, and if we're adding too much equipment, you're
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fucking out. So but I saw those guys pulling well
into the nines. I don't think someone pulled a g
which makes me think it was a regular deadlift bar.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Possibly. I can't actually figure this out.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
You haven't used a websit a long ast.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, I'm sorry, guys, I don't understand how your stuff works.
I'm very I'm very confused.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Dot org means you're smart. The more orgs you're on,
the more GUVs you're on.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Well, yeah, dot com is like open, like want to
buy it. It's like I could figure out what but that's
I'm trying to be in records.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Maybe go rankings, try rankings.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
You see this is me, this which is everything.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
But I think you can click deadlift and it'll short it.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Well, maybe somebody can, but I can't.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, I thought maybe deadlift sorted. I haven't been on
the website a long time.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
No, I'm just kidding. Christy Hawkins is forty three, No.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Idea a lot of strong buckos.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Denise Herbert actually, I think is the one that had
the stiff bar deadlift. There six she had the stiff
bar deadlift and yeah, right there it shows her overall
deadlift at six forty two. I'm trying to see another number.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
That's so crazy. That's that's that's a big deadlift. Yeah,
that's you know.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, Brandy might have it all time.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Then forty pounds above my.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Equipped Yeah, yeah, Brandy's there at six forty one. Wraps
one sixty five to be RPF. Either way, the sport
is moving. People are getting stronger, faster.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Better.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I do uh, I do wonder. Yeah, the the show
Classic look very cool. It did, and I mostly only
saw clips because there's too much sports going on for
me to keep up. I was watching the jiu jitsu
tournament that went on shout out by Boy Nicki Rod
the first ever winner in the Craig Jones Invitational million
(08:28):
bucks for choking out Man's which is dope man. Nicki
was one of the coolest guests we we've probably ever interviewed. Yes,
shout out to Nicky. Huge, huge for the sport, for
jiu jitsu. I mean, if jiu jitsu can do that,
there's no way powerlifting can. Like it's just a brain
behind it jiu jitsu. The more I do dive into
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it and have friends in it, I do see the
parallels with powerlifting. One of the biggest comments in an
interview I saw there, which is maybe the guy who
runs ADCC, which is like the World Cup of Powerlifting,
a very prestigious and international competition, which was also this weekend.
I think it was him, but it might have been
somebody else who was speaking about people who watched jiu
(09:14):
jitsu and saying that nine out of ten are jiu
jitsu practitioners or participants, and I was talking to said
about off air, which is very similar to powerlifting. You know,
anyone who's watching an online powerlifting meet is either like
your mom or probably ten out of ten someone who
did lists in squats, which is a limiting factor of
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the growth of the sport. So how do you how
do you change that? I think adding money changes it.
I was watching that jiu jitsu thing because I knew
a million bucks were on the line. Obviously my homie
was in it. I wanted to watch Nikki and there's
a couple classic UFC champs in there. Luke rock Hold
and some other people were in the tournament, which made
it cool. There were names that I was familiar with,
but UFC is probably the opposite. If you watch the UFC,
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it's probably one out of ten of them actually practice
a martial art. Most of them are just drunk, fucking honkys,
you know. Most of them are just people like me,
just wanna bees watching people beat the fuck out of
each other, you know, And so I do wonder what
that switches that changes that you know, like obviously stand
up basically bare knuckle, you got eight ounce gloves on
(10:21):
is very interesting because you know, some crazy shit can
happen versus a deadlift, even a choke out, like a
really dynamic match in jiu jitsu is still just not
the same as you know, a flying fucking Superman punch
and all this stuff. It's just visually not the same
and powerlifting right the same thing. There's another really interesting
(10:41):
interview that got like tense between I forgot that guy's name,
but he's basically kind of a fringe sports commentator in
Dana White were sitting down chatting, and the guy was
basically telling Dana how power slap's so dumb and and
and his argument was actually the same as mine, but
I don't think you voiced it that good. So Dana
(11:04):
kind of won the exchange where he was basically just
saying that He's like, dude, it's just like not variable enough.
You know, guy goes up, he swings his right hand
and the other guy gets knocked out or he doesn't.
And that is true.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
It's true. That's very binary.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, right, And same with powerlifting.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
You either get the lift or you don't.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
You're gonna load the weight up and you're gonna load
they make it.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
They give you the weight or they give you the
lift that they don't.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
And that's it, right. Where again, like and Dana's argument
is like, well, mma is the same. I was like, well,
it's just not you know, like way too many things. Yeah,
and I'm not a practitioner by any means, but there's chokes,
and there's kicks, and there's punches, and a guy could
get knocked out or he could just get t ko
and how it happens is different. Everything literally every single time.
How it happens is different.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, UFC, I mean to make it the same, it
would have to be just takedowns, or even even then
just one part of it.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, but even then, I think it's gonna be different
because you're gonna grab an ankle different, you're gonna grab
a kne different. In power slap, you're literally using your
dominant hand and you're only allowed to hit like six inches. Yeah,
there's only one place you can hit. It's kind of
like the most variance of powerlufl thing is like sumo unconventional,
like yoah, who's what's it gonna pull? Where again? Like
yeah basketball, Yeah, you're putting a ball through a net,
(12:15):
but the amount of ways that it happens literally has
never been replicated. The variables are a trillion. Sure someone
shot it from the corner, but how that ball ended
up in the corner, how exact trajectory of the shot,
like visually is different every single time. And same with
m A. Yes, multiple guys have been knocked out with
the left hook, but how that left hook got there,
(12:37):
how it visually looks is different every single time. Where again, Yeah,
power slap and powerlifting are just so stagnant in every
sense of the word.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah, we like every home run was not hit the
same way because.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
The pitch is different. Who's an outfield?
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Every touchdown did not happen the same.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
The score of the game and the pressure of the game,
whether it's middle the season or a playoff or lay in,
all of it matters so much. The dynamic between the
brain games of the batter and the picture, Like, there's
so many more things going on rather than yeah, ball,
Sure we could break them all down ball make contact
with bat, but the externals are crazy. Where I agree
(13:17):
power Slap isn't And I still have watched Power Slap.
I watched it live, I've watched the clips. I don't
mind watching it, and obviously I watched powerlifting and jiu
jitsu is much more dynamic than those. But still, I mean,
it got a lot of views. Bro I was watching
Saturday Sunday Nicky Rod's first match had one hundred thousand
live viewers. Good lord, you know, and jiu jitsu has
(13:45):
grown for multiple reasons. UFC guys like Nicki creating YouTube content.
Craig Jones his coach Gordon Ryan, although he's their enemy,
has gained a lot of popularity. Rogan, obviously, Joco, will Nick,
all these all these big podcasters and faces are into
jiu jitsu, so that's helped the sport grow as well.
(14:06):
But but the rocks on on Instagram squatting and squatting
hasn't gotten more popular necessarily, you know what I mean. Like,
so there's something else missing for sure, I just don't
know what it is.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
My daughter in law admitted to me yesterday that she
had no idea that Joe Rogan did anything, but the
podcasts like did not realize she was that he was
a stand up. It's like, yeah, no, I've I've actually
like seen Rogan in person a couple of times. I've
met Rogan. He's a stand up, Yeah, it'd be the great.
He's not a very good stand up anymore, but.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
No, I think his stand up's always been a nice
seven out of ten.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
But being kind of mid yeah, like he's.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Funnier than most, Like he's funnier than I would be,
but in the comedy realm, he's not that fun. Now,
that same thing happened to me in the gym, and
I'm not going to throw you under the bus. But
they had no clue it was a comedian either. I
thought he was whatever you.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Use to see generation.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I don't know though, because his Netflix special got a
lot of promo. Yeah, and it just dropped this month.
I haven't watched it. I'm sure it's okay, but yeah,
I've seen some of his old stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Like I've seen people comment today it was trash a
new one.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah, we saw him live. He was all right, he
was all right. His live This Last Would We Seem
last year was one of his better sets I've seen. Like,
I've seen probably all whatever eight of his biggest specials,
and some are decent. I once sticks in my head.
I forget the stick. But he had a bit on
like uh Noah's Ark that was pretty funny, and this
(15:30):
last time he was decent. But but the other guy's
on the Yeah, I was.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Gonna say that. Other people like overshadowed that.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Yeah. Yeah. Even David Luke is our buddy, like we're
crushing it, and he is funny. He's like a funny guy.
But I'm a funny guy too, And I'm not a
stand up comedian, you know, Like there's there's so much
difference and what comedy is as entertainment is changing, though,
you know, shout out to Tony Hinchcliff, like kill Tony's
a phenomena. Like that's a live ad lib show basically,
(15:57):
and and it's kind of like the modern day raunchy
who's lines it anyways?
Speaker 2 (16:02):
And Yeah, but at the same time that that's not new,
that's been around no time. It just kind of caught
the guys more lately.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, over the last four years, it's just taken off. Yeah,
but he's done it. I think as long as Rogan's
been podcasting, like twenty ten.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, long long time.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Yeah, which is really cool to shut out to them.
And David Lucas, our buddy's a big part of that show,
and I think he was even found on that show
and then it's now like a regular It would be
fun to see live. But even that there was a
Rogan on that is almost even funnier because like just
it's kind of like the uh cliffs and movies where
you see an actor can't like hold it and they
(16:36):
laugh like Saturay Night Live used to be a sh Yeah. Yeah,
that's fun to see when comedians are genuinely laughing at
each other. Yeah, that shit's good. And I think they
just did a big show in Madison Square Garden. Yeah,
live kill Tony, which is pretty cool. Yeah, because we
saw Yeah, we met all those guys. We met Hingecliff,
we met Rogan, we were there and even Hingecliff live.
You know, no offense Homeie, Like he's just funnier off
(16:56):
the tip than he is like a set.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
That's why some comics crowd work is better than any
of their material.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, half of his set was just crowdworking. It was
hilarious and then he goes into his beds and they're
they're good. Yeah. But I've been into comedy since forever,
but especially when I was in high school, I got
really into stand up comedy. And it is cool how
it's gotten more popular. Like back then it was rare.
I would go rent the DVD from Hollywood and you
(17:25):
had to like go on the corner to find it
to find like an Eddie Murphy or Chris Rock or something.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Is.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, they're very not popular. But if if Hollywood was
a thing right now, you'd probably walk in. It'd probably
be on the main stage.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah maybe so.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, like Netflix, it is Netflix, you click on it,
and some of those stand ups when they're new.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah, when they're new, they're.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Right on that front page. You're clicking on whoever Joe
Coroy or whoever the fuck's going on. You just even
have them as household names. I feel as rare, right,
because Eddie Murphy and them weren't really household names. So
they got into the movies. Yeah, yeah, or they got
the household names because they did both, Yeah, Pryor maybe Saturday.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Night Live, Eddie Murphy also Steve Martin Saturday Night Live
as guest host.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, but not because of their stand up stand up
because not because of.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Their stick because people hadn't seen that. It wasn't until
Delirious came out. It wasn't until you know, Steve Martin
is a wild and crazy guy. Yeah, that one and
one before that when we that one he was in
the jerk and then they go crazy with that movie
that went that went pretty pretty big.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Richard Pryor I think the only one that was like
a stand up guy. But even that you could probably
argue from his his appearances on movies. Carlin, Oh yeah,
Carlon o g obviously, but a lot of those guys
that Adam Sandler's and whatever, like even still people don't
know Adam Sandler's a stand up comedian. They think of
him as Happy Gilmour. Right, but he started. I think
he had a He just dropped a special, right. I
(18:50):
think Adam did too. I should watch it. I haven't
watched any lately, but I think Adam Sandler just dropped.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I think Say and Arthur doing a sequel with the water.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Boy Happy Gidmore Happy. And I was getting an ad
for extras.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Oh really, Yeah, I should have.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
That would just be sooo vegas. I don't know. I
think it was here I got to add this weekend,
but I don't know why I got it. Maybe age
group or something. Oh maybe I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
It was like like a like an email or was
it like it?
Speaker 1 (19:18):
No, it's like Instagram ad. It was an Instagram ad
and it was like, you know, fucking two days worth
of work for two hundred bucks if you weren't in
SAG Yeah, I saw my god, I'm good.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
You gotta you gotta talk to get Yeah a sad card.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Yeah. Maybe they would have just snuck me in for
a couple of jokes, but it would have been worth it. No,
I don't know where this all went.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Jiu jitsu.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Oh so much sports going on. That's where it went.
College sports are in PAC twelve is no more. You
probably don't even know what that is.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
So goddam I didn't watch sports growing up. Broke my
little heart.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
The PAC twelve is our league. It's our league. We're
supposed to be the guys, U C, L, a USC,
UC Berkeley, Oregon, Washington, Washington State, Oregon State. It's the
West Coast League. Gone gone, just like that, just like that.
Why why the big business shit? I don't understand. So
other leagues absorbed them. I think the Big twelve, which
(20:16):
is my favorite league, Ohio State and all them absorbed
a ton of them. So I think ucla USC went
into that league.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Are they gonna start playing like across the country.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
That's kind of cool though, yeah maybe maybe Financially they're
just more able to now, right because when these leagues
started eighty years ago, it makes sense for Berkeley not
to go play Ohio, yeah, because they didn't have the
billion dollar Budweiser sponsor. But now they do and so
the Nike sponsorship. So now it's much easier for those
schools to yeah, go play, you know, yeah like Obama,
(20:47):
you Penn and whatever, yeah, so that'll be good, and
it does make it more competitive. I have wondered why
they haven't just made it a national college league, right,
like why don't why don't you run it like the
European soccer where say you have twenty teams. Football is
obviously a little bit harder because they just played less games.
But let's say you have twenty teams and the bottom
(21:07):
five of that league go down to the other league
next year, and the top five of the bottom league
whatever that is, gets to go into the next.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah, it sort of makes sense. Like in the A
few years ago, Major League Baseball made a change where
now they call it the balance schedule, where every team
plays every other team during the regular season. Sure they don't,
it doesn't you know, it doesn't doesn't wait until like
playoff season before people.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Go dision all right, right, right, yeah, yeah, I think
it's good and bad. I think it's good for competitiveness,
but then it's maybe bad for like rivalries.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah, it does. It cuts down the number of games
in natural.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yes, and so NBA similar You play every team I
believe in the in the season for sure, but you'll
play your division more.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Yeah. Then and they still play their division a bit more. Yeah, yeah,
but it used to they cut down the number of
number of games by like I don't know, six or
nine or something total games no versus your versus your
your division.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah, I think there's plus and minuses there the Yeah,
a lot of sports have like changed, I feel like
pretty drastically over the last like five years, where like
even the NBA having a play in a seasonal tournament.
They have a tournament every Christmas. Now that's cool though,
I think it's really cool, and baseball should probably try
to do something same because the season is so long.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
They used to Yeah, like why do you there used
to be, well, there used to be two All Star Games. Yeah,
like there's still there's one and in the middle of
the season, sort of in the middle of the season.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Yeah, but like you don't care about baseball games in June.
But I think that and the players probably don't either. Yeah,
And that's the issue. And and the.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
All Star Games back to being just a just an
exhibition and it is only it's a popularity contest. It's
only yeah, it's it's fans that I don't think that
that's maybe the right it's way to choose.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
I think it's not the right way with the amount
of weight we put on the term All Star. Yeah. Right,
then it's the same with the basketball like when you
say like, oh he's a like, they'll still say like
Kobe Bryant sixteen time All Star, Like that's part of
your thing. And then if it's only fan voted, now,
now you got to run a funny Twitter right now,
You've got to do some extra curriculars to be funny
(23:24):
to get some fan base. And then it's obviously just
by city, Like no Kings player was in the All
Star Game last year and you're like, well, I don't
know about all that. Ye, it was just fan vote. Yeah, right,
and it probably should be more like a Hall of
Fame vote where they have like selected committee, whether it's
like ex players and ex coaches or current coaches even.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Or you've just run it purely on stats.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, stats can be a little baseball maybe baseball, Yeah,
it's just so statistic. Yeah, one, it's just so stats based.
You either hit the ball or you don't. Or basketball,
there's just so many other minutes. Football, there's more minutes.
You know, you gotta have shit staft and still be
like the guy or not the guy. But you know,
and then yeah, what if there's ties.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Put them both on you. I mean most most players
don't play more than two or three innings in anyway.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yeah, that's for sure. Yeah. I mean that's a lot
of controversy over the men's basketball US program for similar things,
which is the opposite. It's not fan base. And now
they're calling politics and they're yelling at Steve Kerr and
and a lot of the ex players are coming out
and saying stuff too. So I do wonder if there's
some vendetta. You don't know, because they're human. It's not
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everyone's gonna like everybody, you know. Yeah, I don't know
if it.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Was purely based on popularity popularity among other players, would
a Pete Rose or a Barry Bonds ever have been
in an All Star game?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, you don't know. Yeah, And people say the same
thing about Yeah, Isaiah Thomas from Detroit Pistons. Everyone says
that everyone just hated him. Yeah, everyone just says they
hit it.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I wondered with the Hall of Fame stuff too. That's
a big conversation obviously, still floating around with the Pete Roses,
and I think they just gave Reggie Bush's heisman back.
Maybe I'm wrong. I think that's correct, you know, And
then there's still, yeah, the Barry Bonds Hall of Fame argument,
the Pete Rose argument. I think those are the still
the biggest.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
I think that that because the Giants are having so
much trouble this year with hitting, I think they should
just bring Barry back for the rest of the season
and reset his retirement because he never actually formally announced
his retirement. Reset it give him another five years to throw.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
What is he forty five? No, he's probably older. He's
probably fifty, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I don't think he's well. And I think maybe he
just turned fifteen. He gets still hit? Why not?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
He could try? For sure, it definitely gets asides in seats.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I believe he could. Yeah, I mean their home park
is one of the hardest to hit a home running.
And he did it. You know, he did it before
he was ju step.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
So, yeah, what's the oldest six like elevant baseball player,
not right now, but like through time, like how old
are and oh yeah, what was he early forties?
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Forties?
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Because you would still think if you're not a pitcher
in baseball, And maybe this is my bias to get to.
You would think you'd be able to have a pretty
fucking long career. Yeah, if you took care of yourself
and you played outfield.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Yeah theoretically, as long as you didn't crash into the
wall too many times or right to one of your
other outfielders. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah, like pictures, I understand, Like you're just putting where catchers,
I understand you're putting where.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yeah, shortstop, first base, third base. Those are hard positions
you start. If you lose a step, it's very difficult too.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I just don't on top. But that's my point is
I don't think you lose a step if you keep going.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Yeah, maybe not.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Like look at Lebron and obviously he's a specimen and
a half, but guys in the MLB or specimens too.
There's specimens all over the place. But I just feel
like maybe they get laxed like Lebron. I mean, they say,
and who knows, right that he spends millions on his
like and he's obviously doing it, but who knows what
he could be.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
A place by a robot at this point.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
That's what they say. They say he spends millions on
like his health, you know, but that's chef. You know,
that's the trainer, but still like just to see him
do that and in the dynamic, in the minutes that
he plays, there's just no way a baseball player can't
do that. Or Tom Brady was what forty three? Yeah,
like that's insane, that's actually insane. Lebron's forty This year,
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I was looking through like oldest players all time. I
think Kevin Willis and Robert Parrish were two the oldest.
They played in the NBA and played minutes when they're
forty four.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I can't remember who it was. I was watching pitch
the other day who was forty and he's a right
handed pitcher, and that just this is something that doesn't happen.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah, again, left handers kind of can kind of go forever,
but right odds.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah, yeah, I understand pitching because it is just reps
and wear and tear, but like you're playing fucking third
base or outfield, just stay in shape. You should be
able to rock to your forty five.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah, I mean, I agree it doesn't play out like that,
but I I do agree. I just wonder why it doesn't.
And if you're like if you're a minor leaguer and
you haven't made it to the majors by the time
when you're twenty six to twenty seven, you're not good.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
That's rough because you've got to be fast and you
obviously need your step, but you don't have to be
the fastest. It's different than a wide receiver. If you're
a wide receiver, you have to be the fastest or
you're just not good. That twenty five year old's going to.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Come grab you. They're playing around and they'll and they'll
have to do it in the minor leagues first. So
if they do it at all with saying that a
pitcher has to stay in for a starting pitcher has
to stand for six innings.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Interesting, that would change the whole game.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Yeah, I would dramatically change the game back to the
more the way it was to go for So they
would change the conditioning for sure, dramatically, and change your off.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Season a little bit, change our trade, your draft.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yeah, and it would it would affect the length of
careers in a big way.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I think the only way you do that is if
you shorten the schedule, and then I think I think
you would definitely see more home runs and yeah, just
more yeahentage goes up or whatever, because you know, either
that or we figure out how to make it possible
for more pitchers to go past six or ages of
the sixth inning.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Yeah, I don't mind that rule changes. But then for
the longevity of the athlete, you just need to shorten
the schedule, and so does the NBA, Like eighty two games.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I know it's a money they're talking about adding more, right,
I know, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Potentially, I don't think they will though, It's just none
of it makes sense. All of it's just money driven
because athletes don't want it.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I remember going from high school and if you make
a run in high school, you're doing you know, twenty
to thirty games, that's like a playoff run. And then
college like the baseline's thirty games, and that felt like
forever bro Let alone, going from college thirty forty fifty
games to eighty two games, like there's it's just not
fun and it's not good on your body. It's literal
only good for the owner's wallets. That's all it is.
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And baseball is the same. It makes the games boring,
players are checked out. Yeah, like there's just no reason
for it.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
I don't understand the economics of any of the major
league sports, how they're just millions and millions and millions
of dollars, and how they're going to continue to be
because it is the way that TV's changed.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
What was the big one this year? NFL to Netflix,
NBA to at Netflix, Netflix, snag somebody NBA. Yeah, next
year than twenty twenty five to twenty six. I think
this is a This is the last year of TNT.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Last year in TNT, so it's twenty five twenty six, Yeah, which.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Is huge for Netflix to I mean, yeah, that's a
billion dollar investment and it will pay off, I think
because like Hulu's been the sports place for whatever, but
they don't really own.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
And more more internationally, Disney Plus has internationally been a
big sports think.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
That they had they own ESPN. It makes sense they had.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Soccer, but it wasn't on ESPN, it was on Disney Plus.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
I know, I'm just saying they own it all.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Yeah, Like I don't know why. I don't know. ESPN
is more of a Western for sure brand.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Yeah, I don't even know ESPN's popular in Europe.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
I'm sure it does something, but yeah, it's definitely American, Yeah,
because all the talk shows, I mean even yeah, yeah,
Netflix doing that's huge because even Hulu having sports was
more like that. Like it's because they had a relationship
with ABC. It's not like they bought it. Amazon Prime
is the only one that I know bought it bought
it first because I think they had Thursday night football
games like every other week for a while. Now they
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might have every Thursday. But it is changing the landscape
of all of it fast.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
And they put together this bundle that's like forty nine
bucks a month, But the question is, like who are
they going to sell it to.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
None of that's really worth it. Like YouTube TV, in
my opinion, really is still just like the best. It's
seventy bucks and you get literally everything besides like HBO
and Netflix exclusives. But otherwise you're gonna get literally everything
where again, yeah, if you want to watch that, otherwise
you got to get ten different packages of twenty bucks. Right,
(31:56):
And Netflix and HBO are obviously probably the leaders and
like independent stuff, right, they're making their own their own production.
But everywhere else you're just getting regurgitated shit, right Disney sure,
but a lot of that stuff you're going to get
on a random replay on YouTube. It does. It does
(32:17):
kind of like make it difficult. You're gonna end up
spending one hundred and fifty bucks if you like movies. Yeah,
yeah it sucks. And sports like I have don't. I
literally got out of watching sports because of that, Like
you just can't find them.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Yeah, you know, more challenging.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Yeah, you need to get like three different systems if
you want to watch soccer and basketball and football.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Right, which is what they're trying to address with this bundle.
But I don't think. I think it's like who who
is interested in all of those? Number one? And it's
going to pay that much for it. It's just like, yeah,
I don't know, it's a lot. It's they're just streaming,
is trying to recreate cable and I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah, it's literally just turning into cable, which is what
YouTube TV is.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, and there's nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah, but totally unrelated note, And this is going to
be like because we're we're doing a whole batch recording
this week because we've got travel stuff coming up. I
saw Alien Romulus.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
Oh yeah, did it come out this week or came
out last week? I came out from I saw the previews.
It does look kind of scary. It's good. Yeah you
saw too. Have you seen the old ones out?
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (33:19):
You gotta go, Yeah, you gotta go check in.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Oh no, I remember you talking about like last week's podcast, Yeah,
talking about the rebugs and I was like, I was
waiting for it. I was like, we are they going
to show the rebu Yeah? Yeah, she was like going
down the ladder.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
I think I might have there. Uh yeah, you should
watch for sure. Alien and Aliens Okay, like the first
Aliens one and two, Yeah, one and too, Yeah, one
and two. They're gonna be like boring for you, but
if you'll like them, if you like dive in look
at it from like a cinematic storytelling.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yeah, I like how like the whole thing was shot.
Yeah that's fire. Yeah, beautifully shot. Yeah, it's amazingly shot.
And the budget was less than I was expecting based
on you know, based on how it looks. H It
is chronologically between the first two movies. Okay, so it's
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twenty twenty years after the first movie and it's little
thirty four years or thirty seven years before the second one.
Oh seven years.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
You can probably find the other ones on like Amazon
Prime or sure they're yeah classic Classic, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Yeah, there are. I think they're on Max, but I
think that you can get them with commercials on some
of the other But the look is very similar. But
it also it literally incorporates pieces of all of the
movies except for the Alien Versus Predator stuff.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah. I like those two, but those are like a
Guilty Watch or whatever, you know.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
They're like it's they're like watching a video game.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, mashup. You know what you're getting into. Yeah, no,
it is. It's the crossover, that's all.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
It's non cannon. But but they made a Predator movie
that went straight to video that it was incredibly popular
called Prey.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
What's the one is it Adrian Brody or who's a
Hella famous cat that was in one of them maybe
ten years ago. It's a predator Predators. They're on the planet,
I don't know, spoiler alert. They're on the planet being
hunted by the young predators. That one was solid actually,
because I can at least differentiate when something's like I
(35:26):
like it, but it's trash, you know, yeah, Predator, the Predator.
Maybe maybe Swiss is actor.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
I don't think this is it? Who is in Prey?
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Kegan Key is in fucking this one. This is not
what I'm talking about. What's he doing in there? Twenty eighteen,
twenty twenty two. There's so many it is Adrian Brody. Really,
Predators twenty ten, that's just not a good name. Predators, Predators,
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that's like fucking eight. I play Epex, everything's about being
a pread Pray.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Is uh.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Aali And Covenant. I don't think I saw that. There's
so many.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
No.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Covenant is the second one of the prequels that Ridley
Scott's returned to the franchise. I hated the first one
so much that the second one seems better, but it
wasn't any good, just the amount of hate. First Ray
I see it twenty twenty two, Yeah, twenty twenty two,
Like it did. It was very well reviewed. People loved it.
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And it's a Predator sequel.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
You haven't seen this one?
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Yeah, it's supposed to be really really good, but a
lot of them.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
I kind of like Predators is the only okay one
twenty ten, But the other ones are just like, yeah,
they're like not even john Wick, because john Wick, at
least the first one has like a decent like story,
you know, but like they're kind of like that, like
it's like you just pure shoot them up. Okay, so
you're just going in just yeah, yeah, yeah, they're fight
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and then they're invisible and the news shit, you know,
we're like that is the basis of those movies. Like
have you seen the original Predator with Arnold Schwarzenegger, Like
it is a shoot them up, but there is a
lot of slow parts, kind of like Aliens, Like it's
kind of actually slow, like there's build up. But that's
the beauty in it, right, It's like fucking edging all
the time, so to speak.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
I actually just rewatched Alien, and I'm in the process
of rewatching Aliens, even though I think I watched it
a couple of months ago. I've seen that movie a bunch.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
It's just so good.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
They're just so well done, Like they're they're both nearly
perfect movies.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
What started the crossover not same director?
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Oh you mean Predator? Yeah? Oh, I think it was
just money.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
It was just like.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
I think I think it started actually as a video game.
Oh actually and then and actually Romulus is based the
first versions of the script were based off of Alien, Isolation,
which is a video game, and then it evolved away
from that.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Yeah, you know, have you seen it now?
Speaker 2 (38:04):
You just I just know what it is, Dylan, your
son up a bit.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Yeah, Yeah, it's good. It's good. That's probably my favorite.
I'm not a huge like Arnold guy. That's probably my
favorite Ronold movie.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Praise on Hulu, by the way, but it's it's a
skilled warrior of the Commanche nation fights to protect her
tribe against one of the first highly evolved predators to
land on Earth. So very different premise. And I think
that this one, Romulus is a very different premise because it's, uh,
(38:38):
they're trying to Actually it's similar to the premise of
Star Trek Prodigy, to be honest with you. It's like
people who are somewhat captive slaves who are trying to
escape from their situation.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
That's kind of like, uh, the one with Adrian Brody.
I like, I think, I don't know if there's prisoners,
but they all just end up on a random planet
together and then they're being hunted.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
This one, they're they're they're forced it's forced labor miners.
They're miners, and they're miners at least they have been
since they were miners.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Yeah, it's definitely worth the watch. And I mean, like
Alien is like the Suspends suspense thriller.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Yeah, Aliens, but the gold standard of the Aliens a
horror movie. Aliens is a an action movie with horror
and romulus sits right in the between those.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Yeah, all with like sci fi shrinks and the.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
The synthetic the Android and it's probably you know what,
probably one actually I don't know, one of the best
performances in the movie, for sure, Andy, Yeah, one of
the best performances in the movie, for sure, and just
an outstanding performance. And Android in one of these movies.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Yeah, I think the way he switched, he went from
like child as yeah, yeah to like full blown yeah Android.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Yeah. And yes, and the pawn character, the guy the
guy that yeah yeah, yeah, that is there is a
digital recreation of the same actor from the first movie,
who also was a synth Yeah. That's kind of cool. Yeah. Anyway,
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highly recommend.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
I haven't seen any movies this summer.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
It sucks.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Should go see something I just didn't.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
I think I said this before, Like if a new
movie comes out and it's at the Imax, I go
on Friday Yeah, it's fun Friday two o'clock to thirty
whatever going. There's ten to fifteen people in there. I
don't have to deal with, you know.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Yeah, that's what I used to do. I used to
do is like a Tuesday deal all alone, like Tuesday
late mornings. That's when I saw like Endgame, when the
world's on fire, everyone's buying tickets, but like Tuesday at eleven,
they aren't. Yeah, exactly, you know, i'd see all that shit.
But I mean this summer was actually probably the first
decent summer movies, right, Yeah, like Deadpool everyone said was good,
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like some of my homies. Yeah, I liked it. Even
Bad Boys got really good reviews, really good reviews.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
I think more business than the last one.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
No, the last one was the last one is just like, uh,
the fanfare stuff, you know, they're just feeding you. But
that everyone said this is the best one since the
first one. Obviously the inside out to everyone says it
was good. Aliens people say it was good. There's like
four or five movies that people say are legitimately good,
which I feels like the first time it was twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Yeah, that that we're getting summer blockbusters that feel like
summer blockbusters.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Yeah, but people enjoy movies.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
There's still is not and nearly as many movies available
to go see.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Yeah what it used to be. Yeah, I scroll Fandango
and there's like three movies that you stater yeah, yeah,
which is funny because it used to be like seven. Yeah,
and they would last longer, right, they stretch them out,
but the contracts different. Right. Netflix is knocking on fucking
Aliens door right now saying, hey, how soon can.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
We do There's a there's a series coming. Yeah, there's
a serious coming Alien Earth. Yeah, that's what it's called.
Right there. There, there's and and there's a spinoff series
from The Batman called The Penguin Penguin.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
I think I saw.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Colin Farrell Yeahengin.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
Yeah, I've seen all that.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
And there and Dune has a spin off.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Batman like when you Zoom could when you zoom out
of Batman. It probably has the lamest uh bad guys,
Like the Penguin's pretty bad. The Riddler, Yeah, the Riddler's
pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Arnold Arnold obviously ruined it. But like mister Freeze could
be cool, but Arnold kind of made a corny corny
in a fun way, how did your face is creepy?
Jokers creepy?
Speaker 2 (42:49):
Kind of the interesting thing about all the they called
the Rogues Gallery, the Batman Villains, they're all mentally ill.
That's why you have Arkham Asylum right right right there
on every single freaking one of them, is that none
of them is.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Just the penguin's fucking quacking and.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
Ye, whereas when you if you go over to Superman,
they're all aliens, like Luthor is just an evil businessman.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Right, and Spider Man is kind of like that. King
Pin was the big one and yeah, and the other
ones are all experimental fails like he is. Yeah, you know,
they all got sapped or bit or fell.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Some kind of mutant in human whatever.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
Yeah, it is funny. I think there's a new Villains World.
Is it Disneyland, disney World, Disney World, I think, or
Universal Buck I get it mixed up. But one of
them is building like the first ever like Villain Park,
which is kind of dope. Yeah, it might be universal.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
I think it might be universal. Yeah, the best is
checking for us.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Yeah, I think it's universal, which is fun too.
Speaker 2 (43:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
That world seems to be doing good business wise too.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
The world's picking up. We're doing okay world.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
He's building a bunch of new ships in uh, for.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Sure in Florida. But that's been like the overall plant.
I think they have like hundreds of acres that they
own that they haven't touched.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
Oh yeah no, but I'm in building like cruise ships.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Oh that for sure.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
Disney's building a two or three news cruise ship. I
just saw the biggest Like hell, to me, that sounds
like the place I never want to be.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
Well, I love Disney and theme parks, but yeah, like
when you go to that, you know it's only for
like eight year olds.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Oh, Disney's making a villain's land.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Maybe they both are, Yeah, that's probably a world. Yeah, yeah,
I think both are opening shit up. I think the
world's biggest cruise ship currently just stocked up in Miami,
and I saw a video of it pulling in, And
part of it's my brain, but part of it's also
like CGI and AI and Shiit like it looks fake.
It's literally like thirty hotels just moving down the water.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
How many fingers does it have?
Speaker 1 (44:42):
It looks insane? Have you said I think they saw fingers? Though,
I think they saw fingers fucked.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Some, yeah, some of them.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
That was the beginning. Yeah, that was the beginning. We
weren't univers was doing monster Land. Monster Land. All right,
that'll be fire too, because yeah, either way they'll be fire.
But this, yeah, this cruise ship was insane. Well that's
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too rather than just the bullshit that bogs down our world.
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