You Know You Wrong for That

We kick things off with a big hug to our growing podcast #GroupChat and a special shoutout to one of #TheOtherSix people, Kasey, kicking off #Chapter45.

We also navigate the treacherous waters of infidelity, but we're not just talking about the physical kind. Our discussion explores the emotional betrayals that can upend relationships and friendships.

Lastly, we shout out Teah Woods-Pringle, real estate broker with The Headley Group.
You can find Teah on Instagram at @teahtherealtor and Facebook at Teah Woods-Pringle, real estate broker.

#8PeopleInTheGroupChat #GoodGirlfriends #Conversations #GroupChatGiggles #ChatCrewChronicles 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up?
Welcome back to eight people inthe group chat.
I'm Yola Gilliam.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm your girl Lene Johnson, or Lene, if you ask
some of my friends or Siri.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Who are some of these friends?
I want to know.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
So I'm laughing because I, siri, really does say
like if you say call Lene, itwill say Lene.
And so it was some years ago myfriend Dee, who I worked with.
She literally was the firstperson to legit start calling me
Lene, and so I told her I waslike Dee.

(00:35):
I sent her a message when wewere chatting through DM and I
was telling her how I alwaysthink about her when I do the
introduction, because I alwayssay or AKA Lene to some of my
friends, and so she just diedlaughing.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
She was like.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Oh my God, lene, I just love you and I was telling
my friend Jazz about this.
She was like girl.
I am so glad you told me thatshe was like, because I'm
telling you, I swear, every timeI say call Lene, it says
calling Lene.
So it is hilarious Siri reallydoes call me Lene.
So, yes, so I'm your girl, leneJohnson, or Lene, as some of

(01:11):
you all may know me, and alsoSiri.
We are back for anotherwonderful episode to talk about
what we talk about.
Yes, yeah, so how's your week?

Speaker 1 (01:23):
My week has been pretty good.
I have been looking at ourstats so I want to say thank you
to our listeners and our socialmedia followers.
We've got folks all up and downthe East Coast.
We're trying to branch out West.
We got from everybody, fromFlorida and Georgia up to
Connecticut and New Hampshire.
We even have somebody in.

(01:44):
Germany listening to us, sothat is pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Shout out to the global listener International.
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
We are, so remember to like, download us, follow us,
rate us, so other people canfind us and listen.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yes, wherever you listen to your favorite podcast,
please download and listen tous.
But we also do have listenerson the West Coast too.
Now California, San Diego andLA yes, All right, bring on the
West Coast.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Thank you all.
We appreciate the support.
We were having a blast doingthis and we're glad that people
are listening and enjoying it.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yes, I love doing this because I love to talk.
Funny story is, I've alwaysloved to talk, that's just.
I mean, even since I was little, my parents would go to what do
you call them?
Parent-teacher conference.
They would be like, oh, lene issuch a wonderful student, she's

(02:43):
making A's and B's.
And it would start off bysaying but there's one problem
that we're having in particular,and they would say, well, what
is it?
Well, you know, lene likes totalk, and so we have to, kind of
like, sit her, you know, in thefront or in the back or on the
side.
She's always talking.
So, as you use it, progress.
They say, oh, lene is doingsuch a good job in class, she's

(03:06):
such a pleasure to teach, she'sso, oh my God, she's wonderful.
There's one thing, though wehave a problem with my parents.
They say we know, we know shetalks, she talks.
There's nothing that we can do,she just is a talker.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
She's always going to talk.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah, what's she had to Kathy?
But so, yeah, I love doing thisbecause I love to talk.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
So it works, you're good at it too.
I will say I was telling youbefore we started recording that
I usually like I listen to us,we do edit, but you know we
listen a lot of times but wedon't sit down and listen as
just regular listeners to enjoyit.
And I had that opportunityearlier this week and I was like

(03:46):
, oh my gosh, we sound so good.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Me too, don't we Fran ?

Speaker 1 (03:50):
We do, and not like we didn't think we did it, but
to hear it, just being able tolisten, without any work
involved, was a lot of fun, andI'm really proud of us, so yay.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
I am too.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yay, us team, us team eight people in the group chat,
speaking of our eight people,shout out to Casey it is January
11th when we're recording.
Today is her birthday.
She's kicking off her chapter45.
So, hello, dear, we love you.
Oh, my goodness, 45.
It's that year.

(04:24):
It's that year, man, oh man,you're welcome.
We've been gracing y'all withour presents for 45 years.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Would it be 45 wonderful years or no?
That's going too far.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
It has been 45 years, filled with all the things that
life brings.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Ups and downs, ebbs and blows.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
I think we are grateful to still be on this
planet doing things, but lifehas life at times.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Life has life, life is still life and life will
continue to life.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yes, that is the only constant in this whole thing.
The only constant.
So yeah, all right.
So what you got?
Because you know I get nervous.
This is the only time I getnervous, because I never know
what the topic is.
Well, what is it?

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Well, you know, hold on.
I kind of wanted to talk about,you know, greetings and
salutations first.
I just wanted to see how yourweek was going.
You're going anythinginteresting, anything fun?
No, yes, maybe so.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
I like I said, this week has been kind of crazy.
I think most of us have hadsome winter weather or some
crazy weather.
On Tuesday that just passedthere was a lot of rain,
tornadoes and those kind ofthings.
So we just kind of been goingwith the flow of that.
That changed some schedules forus with my school age kid he's

(05:52):
15, but we are still obviouslyvery involved in how he gets to
and fro.
And we took the other one back.
Y'all saw I shared that tirepicture because that did come to
our minds when we went to takehim back to school.
So we've just kind of beenmoving this week to kind of get
back in the groove of thingswith A little moving and shaking

(06:14):
yeah, I like it.
What about you?

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Well, on Monday I took my notary class Woo-hoo,
congratulations.
Thank you, huh.
Took my notary class, and allday.
Because you could either doonline, but it was broken up

(06:41):
into two days.
So you would do maybe a Tuesdayor Wednesday from 6 to 9 30 PM,
or you could just do one fullday from 9 to 5.
So I opted to do the full day.
So I did it Monday from 9 to 5.
It was a really really goodclass.
Shout out to my instructor,becky Sayer.
She was really good, I likedher and passed the test.

(07:02):
Yes, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
I knew you would.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
And passed the test.
So during that crazy weather Iwas trying to go get certified,
check and drop the applicationin the mail, just send it to the
Secretary of State.
And yeah, it was crazy outthere, but yeah, so that was
what my week has been filledwith that and studying for my
security plus certification, andyet no, but what you brings me

(07:31):
to the time Living and learning,living and learning.
But that never stops, whichbrings me to the topic for today
.
Perfect little segue.
Let's talk about dreams Likewhat is one of your dreams, or
some of your dreams?

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Oh, you like that, I do like that.
But so here I'm hesitant, and Iguess you can hear that I am
hesitant.
Why I?

Speaker 2 (08:02):
hear it, I hear the hesitation in your brain.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yes, so I say a lot of things here on this podcast.
That's one I don't know that Iwant to put out there.
So I'm trying to think ofdreams that I am willing to
share out loud with others, andI know that sounds strange, but
sometimes I feel like and notyou when I say this the world

(08:24):
cannot be trusted with yourdreams, that's when people know
too much they.
They they try to sabotage, evenif subconsciously or
unconsciously they try tosabotage.
So I am always very hesitant.
I am definitely one of thosepeople that I'm going to do all
the things I'm going to do, andthen you're going to find out
about them, like you're rarelygoing to find out if you're not

(08:46):
in my inner circle what's movingand shaking before it's a thing
, and so I am a little bithesitant to kind of talk.
So I'm going to.
This is not a superficial dream, but it is not one where I
would be concerned.
People can.
So I just like at this point, Ithink one of my dreams is to be

(09:12):
able to find a how can I saythis?
Find an opportunity to finishwriting that great American
novel that I started years ago.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
A novel, have an author.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, so that's one of my dreams to actually
complete that and have itpublished one day.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Love it Love it.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
What about you and how do you feel about sharing
your dreams?
I know.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
I kind of feel like you because you know how people
are.
But I do have a couple ofdreams, one, I think I share it
with you.
This is as of recent.
I would love to do voiceover.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
Like audio.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yes, I would love to do that, like some commercials
or some audible books.
I would love to do that.
But I guess my one of my bigdreams is actually to get a
corporate, like you know, withthe whole notary thing, do that
they go consulting with tech,computer issues.

(10:30):
That and I honestly would love.
I know this is going to soundmorbid, I know this is going to
sound morbid, but I would loveto have my own cemetery.
I know, close your mouth.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Like what?
No, my mouth is not open.
Like, that is as far as abusiness venture, that is, one
that you will definitely see thereturns on, like, unfortunately
, that's something we all need,I don't know.
Yeah, I think that is a prettygood journey, a business journey
, I mean.
Well, I say that based on whatI think that you're using this

(11:05):
for.
I don't so based on justbusiness aspect.
Yes, now, depending on what youplan to do in this cemetery, I
might have to open my mouth.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
You figure that's one of those things that You're
always going to need, becausepeople are constantly dying on a
daily basis.
Yeah, it's not that muchoverhead.
I mean, what do you do?
You have to get a grave digger,keep your grounds looking good,
so you would need a landscaper.
But for the most part, peopleare always going to be coming to

(11:42):
you because, unfortunately, theday is going to come where
we're going to us or a familymember may pass away, and I just
think that's one of my dreamsthat I would love to do.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
So do you want just the cemetery or do you want the
actual business, like the wholefuneral home, to be a mortician?

Speaker 2 (12:07):
and a family member.
I would love to be a mortician,I would, but no, I don't want
that.
I would like to have acrematory where I would cremate,
but I don't want to do thewhole.
You know the funerals and youknow I could cremate and you
know the burial piece, but notso much.
Yeah.
But you know, I think I reallycould be a mortician now Because

(12:29):
you think about it.
You have nobody giving you lip.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Because I don't know, I don't know a lot about that.
I have lost some folks, butother folks have been in charge
of that aspect of it.
But I don't, I guess I can'timagine that grieving families
might be going through a lot andI feel like you will be getting
some lip from someplace.

(12:55):
I mean, unless you are dealingliterally just with the deceased
and none of their grievingloved ones.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
But I mean, like you know, if I did like their makeup
or whatever, because I would dothat too, you, you don't.
I mean what are they going tosay?
Oh, I don't like it.
I mean I guess maybe the familymembers would say that, but for
the most part, when you'redealing with not so much the
family but the actual deceased,I mean you know what better
person to work with?

(13:26):
They can't talk.
I mean, you know.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
That is true.
Let's hope they cannot talk.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
I hope they look, if they start talking, they can
have everything done.
You can have it, but yeah, sothat's.
That's, that's one.
That's a couple of things thatI would like to do, but yours is
really good.
Have you been so?

(13:57):
When you do the book, is thissomething that you work on?
How often do you work on it?
I should say, is it somethingthat, whenever it hits you, you
jot a couple of lines down anddo you do it by a chapter, or
you just make notes and then youcompile it.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
I have a lot of notes .
I use dabbled so it organizesall this stuff for me, and I
have I've probably written itand rewritten it a number of
times over the years.
I've just don't have anythingthat I have been ready to show
other people.

(14:32):
Ok, it's usually when I like Ikeep notepads and journals and
things around anyway, and I gotnotes I write, you know I do, I
do all that stuff all the timeanyway.
So sometimes I'll just likepick up my pen and write long
hand something out and then goback and like add it to the you

(14:53):
know types document kind ofthing, just because I've had a
thought or something hashappened that triggered
something that I feel like couldbe a good part of a plot or
something.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
I like that.
I like that, and would you everwant to make it into a movie?
Would that be a or no, youwould not even be interested in
that.
You know how the movie onNetflix and my girl, zoe, I

(15:27):
think her name is, who played in.
You know she went to Italy andshe married her husband.
Did you ever watch that movie?
The series.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Erica Ash in that movie.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Erica Ash, let's see oh no, I know what you're
talking about.
Erica Ash is not.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
I think you're talking about the one, oh, yes,
from scratch, or something likethat.
Yes, yeah, from scratch.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
That is the movie.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Oh my gosh, that was so good and I think, do we talk
about this or am I having a verystrange day?
I've that.
I then went down the rabbithole because one of the sisters
is also an author and so she hadwritten a series of books, so I
started reading those.
We're going to have to.
I'm going to have to look intothat and so we can talk about it
with some intention, because Idid enjoy that movie very much,

(16:26):
I did enjoy the books that Iread very much and just kind of
like learning more, a little bitmore about their sisterhood.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Would you like to do it like that, a book like that
where it initially was a bookand then it turned into a series
?
Would that be of interest toyou?

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Depending on how much control and say I had and how
they interpret the vision Ithink would.
But, of course, opportunity.
I would look for opportunitythat would allow for this story
to reach more people.
So, yeah, definitely considerit.
OK, I think that is wonderfulAlong the line when we talk

(17:14):
about dreams.
I do have like three bookseries that I could get the
rights to.
I'd love to make into movies ortelevision programs, really,
yes.
So have you ever read thewedding date?
But Jasmine Guillory, no, whosename?
I probably should make somesaying right, ok, first of all

(17:35):
just start reading, start withthe wedding date and then just
work your way through the series, like I have literally made
notes of, like folks to cast inthese roles.
I love that series.
It's really really cute, butalso insightful and impactful in
ways that make you feel goodabout yourself.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
And it's called the wedding date.
Yes, ok, series, I'm Googlingas you talk, give me a little
synopsis, well in this, but in.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
So the first book in the series is called the wedding
date, and so the series iscalled the way that they get
stuck in an elevator and he ison his way.
He is like in the wedding partyfor his ex, for his ex's
wedding, because he is marryingsomebody who was a friend.
And so they get stuck in thiselevator and he ends up talking

(18:33):
her into coming.
Well, ended up asking her tocome to the wedding as his date,
because the person he wassupposed to ring the girlfriend
he was supposed to bring theyhave broken up just before the
wedding.
So now he's going to his ex'swedding without a date.
He is in the wedding party andso, as they are want to do, they
fake being in a relationshipuntil they grow into a real one.

(18:54):
Oh, but, like I said, that'sthe start of several other
connected stories where thesecharacters come to life.
And so I really enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
I would love to Wait, so they have a move now.
They already have a moviecalled the wedding date.
Is this the same?

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Did you know that?
But who are the people in thiswedding date movie you're
talking about?
Let's see, is this that you'renot talking about?
That Deborah Messing movie, areyou?
Yeah, I think you're talkingabout.
No, you're not talking aboutthe Deborah.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Messing movie the wedding.
Well, okay, the wedding dateseries by a minute.
Hold on, who is in this one?
So it appears that in this oneit's Dormant Maroney.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah, maroney, and Nevermessing is the female
character.
Yes, this is not the same thing.
Ok, that movie she he's.
He is a professional and shehired to go to her sister's
wedding in England.
That is a really cute movie too.
You should watch it.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
See, is this the young lady who played in leap
year?
Have you ever seen leap year?

Speaker 1 (20:12):
I have, but this is the girl from the Will and Grace
.
Oh, yes, when I think of theyear.
Yes, the sister Amy Adams is init.
Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
OK, all right, I have to check out the wedding day
series.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
Well, this is just what I don't know.
Oh, the books, yes, no, thebook, the book series yeah, do
read the books, do watch themovies.
Do find me funding to offer ifsomebody else hasn't already
bought the rights to me.
I love it.
Ok, um content because peoplewould like it.
Yeah, I'm interested to checkthat out.
I'm interested to put that outthere.
Watch somebody else get to it.

(20:49):
That's what I said.
I don't talk about stuff.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
But you know it would be OK.
I think you could do it.
I think so.
Ok, I can't wait to check thatout.
This is what I need to talkabout.
Ok, very burning topic that theworld has been talking about
For the past week.
I'll be the guy yesterday.

(21:13):
You already know.
No, no, go ahead.
Can we not talk about that?

Speaker 1 (21:20):
So oddly enough, we were supposed to record this
episode the day after all thathappened, so that day I figured
we would definitely be talkingabout it, yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
I don't spend too much time on it but you know
just a little.
Well, it is his internet now,so it is, and as I go to YouTube
just to see how many views ithas had thus far, what did you
think about it Like?
How did you enjoy it?

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Or I probably Watched more than I should Like.
I ended up watching the wholething and I texted several
people because and I think Iprobably texted you when I was
there, some other stuff and Iwas like, oh my goodness, I
ended up watching it all the waythrough.

(22:12):
And then I had texted Eric, whohad an event that day, so he
was working, and when he gothome I watched it with him, like
parts of it with him too.
So I thought Two cats point oflike.
This is my life, this is myexperience.
Y'all said these things aboutme.

(22:33):
I am just replying, I'm hittingreply I.
It was very entertaining, he isvery entertaining and I
understand why it broke theinternet, as people keep saying.
I will also say this it is alsovery well timed, as we all know

(22:54):
cats.
Well, we might not all know,but cats about to go on tour.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
We is, and I heard that that he's coming to the
Bodger Angles arena, a Coliseum.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
And he's here which are the bow play out in 10
minutes or so I believe it, Ibelieve it and so I think this.
And not only was itentertaining, it was a master
class in marketing, yeah, andgetting your name out there in

(23:24):
preparation for some stuff yougot going on.
So I I've not I've seen a lotof like the internet is filled
not only with those clips and itwent on for almost three hours.
So it's, it's, it's a lot ofcontent.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Two hours and 46 minutes and five seconds, to be
exact, and he has.
It has Shout out to.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Shannon Sharp.
Yes, let's have some feelingsabout him, yes and so.
But shout out to himCongratulations to him, because
I know like he got a anincreased number of followers.
Yes, a lot of views.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
I they were even talking about.
I was watching Nightcap lastnight in good feelings.
Let me just say that you saidoh yes, good feelings.
I'm Marish.
They have been talking about it.
He said on, even on the news.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
They put it everywhere you cannot be on.
I'm just call it Cat WilliamsInternet and not some of it.
Yeah, something about it.
Everybody, like you, said it ison like mainstream media news
outlets.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
It is, it is.
I mean, here's the thing whenyou do something to someone and
they come back, be it in personor online, you cannot dictate
how they're going to respondExactly, so you just have to sit
in it and say it is what it is,because I feel like if you can

(24:57):
dish it, you should be able toreceive it and, like everyone
has been saying, all of thepeople who have been calling him
out and calling him what allthese types of names have yet to
say that he was lying.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Well, that's the thing.
There have been a lot ofresponses, but nobody had been
like he told the both of us lie.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
So no, none of them I know he had receipts.
And let me tell you, um, youknow he was talking about Steve
Hardy and how he sold his jokes.
And when he bought up MarkCurry I was like you know that
meme with Wee Bay from the wire.

(25:37):
I don't know if you everwatched a wire, but anyway you
know how he kind of rubbed hischin like, oh, oh, my God, that
meme.
If not, I'll send it to you.
When he brought up Mark Curry Isaid yo, like it mirrors each
other.
I didn't even really thinkabout that until he brought that
up.
And so, of course, mike, whoused to be married to Um, oh, oh

(26:05):
, oh, oh the name is on the tipedge of my tongue Um, she comes
in a house and lives, she Lenahouse wife.
She's a model.
She was Leon's ex fiance.
That's a daughter named Noelle.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Cynthia.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Cynthia, cynthia's ex husband's podcast, mark Curry
was and so um, and surprisinglyenough, cynthia and Mike meant
on Steve Harvey's show, oh, andthat's how they met.
But he was saying so you know,you have beef with, uh, Steve,
and he's like I don't have beef.
He just stole some of my jokes.

(26:37):
Well, of course, internet theydo what they do and they find
receipts.
And he had made this joke, markCurry, some years ago about um
Halloween, dressing up in aHalloween costume yes, all that.
UPS right.
And then they showed the clipof when Steve was on his talk
show.
Wow, he didn't make a joke.

(26:58):
You know how you, you'retalking to the audience.
So he wasn't like he was doingstandup, but he was telling the
story how you know, when I wasyoung, you know, in talking
about Halloween and how told thewhole is that joke, but just in
a conversation form, andeverybody was like, oh you know,
tight deal.
And I was like they aren'tdoing their job and coming with
receipts.

(27:18):
So you know, in the whole theythey did one side by side where
he had told this joke on comicview um about the spaceship, but
he didn't use the spaceship.
I think he did a car and then,of course, next to it.
So by side they had Cedric'sversion of it, but Cedric had
changed his to a spaceship.

(27:39):
So I mean, but let me tell youhe was just sitting back in the
cut waiting for his time,keeping names and taking notes,
but the whole point.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
like he said, you know, if you are going to do
somebody that way, you need tobe prepared for them to talk
about what you did to them.
You don't get to be defensiveafter you have done somebody
wrong.
No, you don't.
And they tell people you didthem wrong.
I've always had an issue withthat, like if don't do people
wrong, if you don't want metelling you, you know telling
that you've done people wrong.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Well, look, and here's the ironic.
Or should I listen to even theirony?
That's the word I want to use.
The irony of it all is Toryhaving hearts.
X, Y is now going on tour.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Or I found it on Instagram yesterday.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Charlotte is one of the cities where she's coming
with him.
Well, I said the irony of itall, but you know, you know he
has a lawsuit against Tasha Kay.
You know the blogger on YouTube.
Oh, he didn't take out alawsuit on Kat, you would think,
Hmm, right, interesting.
Yeah, I mean, you know, to me Ithink that's just very telling.

(28:52):
Can't sue, can't sue someone ifit's true right.
So I thought over oh, you know,all in all, it was a, I'm
telling you, my, my chest wastight the entire.
You know, you don't give meheart palpitations when you're
like I'm going to need you tostay off the internet and I'm
telling you like that's why Inever finished power, because

(29:15):
I'm telling you, like it, myheart just starts racing and
being.
I just have to put it on pause.
You know stuff that's very Idon't know.
I don't know I can't, just yeah.
But that made my heart tightLike oh my.
But I didn't stop it, but I wasjust like, oh my God, this is
crazy.
But over and all, I thought itwas a.

(29:35):
It was good I wanted to getthat in because I know we were
supposed to talk about that lastweek.
But, um, yeah, go Kat.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Okay, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah so talkingabout people doing you wrong and
then having to tell somebodyabout it, or having feelings Not
the best segue, but it does.
It did actually does make methink about our next topic,

(30:05):
which is around current eventsand internet and stuff.
Staying on that, I sent you andI don't know if you had time to
watch that a clip from anepisode of girlfriends.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
My first girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Okay, now you can't have to take that out.
Um, we can't pay for that.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
I can't even sing just that one verse.
No, we don't want me.
I think her name is Mara, sowho was the?

Speaker 1 (30:36):
we don't need her.
So I'm gonna shout out to herand Tracy and golden and person
and Jill, Marie and Reggie andKhalil, um out that the why
can't someone sing?

Speaker 2 (30:45):
but they can sing in an everyday life, you just can't
record it.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Well, we're not monetized, so it's not like
we're going to lose anything,but let's just be on the safe
side.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Okay, but you know, I like to have conversations and
bust out with song, but I guessI can't do that.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
We don't have that kind of money.
So don't.
All right, soon Not yet.
Soon, soon, soon, soon, we will.
Then you got to buy the rightsto the songs.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
So okay, so yes, girlfriends.
One of my favorite shows by theway.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yes, so in this particular clip it's from.
It's one of the episodes whereMaya was not doing what she's
supposed to do.
She was having an inappropriaterelationship, not fully
physical, she did think they didkiss, but she was involved with
Stan Stan, crazy Stan, herhusband who was not her husband.

(31:38):
She has a husband.
Stan bought her a watch.
Darnell, her husband wanted tobuy her a watch and had talked
to Joan about buying my watchfor Christmas.
And Maya lied to Darnell whenhe asked her where she got this
very expensive watch and saidJoan bought it.
And so he was pissed because hehad talked to her, talked to

(32:00):
Joan about recommendations thatshe had to buy and he had no
recommendations on what kind ofwatch to get Maya and in his
mind she has gone out and boughthis wife a better, you know,
gift than he can More expensive.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Yeah, Because it was a comfort watch, right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
And so he is pissed and Joan kind of makes picks the
worst moment to kind of show upin their space at that moment
because they're at the companyholiday party and he basically
tells her to kiss his tail and afew other choice words and he
walks off and she is confused atfirst but then she recognizes

(32:41):
because she is aware of whatMaya is doing and it led to a
lot of things in the comments.
So there's so many questionshere, but one of the things in
the comments that really drew mein and made me want to have
this discussion with you wasabout one significant other not
liking their friends, andbecause one commenter pointed

(33:04):
out she was like this is why alot of times guys don't like
their you know, the woman intheir life's friends, because
they've been using them asscapegoats and excuses for stuff
, and so they have formed thisopinion of the friend with
either not all the informationor false information, and I was

(33:27):
like that's, he didn't like herfor a long time Because of that.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
No, he did not.
He did not.
But man do it too.
Not that it's right, that's notthe point here.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
No, it's not.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
But I just wanted to put that caveat, caveat, out
there Lots of people are trashpeople, we.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
that is a caveat.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yes, they are, and let me speak clear.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
So here's the thing and Maya was cheating.
She did not have intercoursewith a stamp, but she did kiss
them.
But even if she hadn't kissedhim, she was lying to her
husband about her whereaboutsand things related to their life
.
And I am a strong believer thatcheating is not about sex.
Cheating is about lying.
So you don't have to have afull out sexual relationship

(34:17):
when we grow and that is a realword, sexual relationship with
somebody To be cheating on yoursignificant other or your
partner.
It is infidelity because of thelying.
So I totally 1000% agree.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
I totally 1000% agree .
I forgot my thought just thatquick because it doesn't have to
be, like you said, a sexual.
It starts in the heartinitially, right, because we
think about it is in your heartand then you act upon it.

(34:57):
So that's usually how thingshappen.
And do you think it's wrong tohave a mental affair or a
mentally like someone mentallyhave checked out in a mental
cheating?

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yes, I agree.
I mean, people talk aboutaffair, affairs of the heart all
the time.
I think here's the thing If youare having issues with your
partner that leads you to wantto engage in any other kind of

(35:39):
activity with somebody that isnot your partner in a way that
would normally be within thoseconfounds, then it is wrong.
And I remember it was a JimmyCarter who said something about
having lust in his heart at onepoint.

(36:00):
Yes, like even to that point.
If you have feel like you havecrossed a boundary and your
spouse would not be pleased withthis behavior and would not
find this your partner would notfind this behavior Okay.
It ain't okay as it relates tothe boundaries in your
relationship, and I keep tryingto point that out because if

(36:23):
y'all have agreements, thenthat's different.
Again, it's always about theboundaries that you all have
determined for your relationship.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Well, and two, I agree with you with two things.
How did that person feel thatcomfortable to be able to do
that?

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Obviously, you have definitely let something out
that gave them an opening.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Right, because a person just not going to step to
you without Well, that's notsaying that, because some people
are just that disrespectful.
Well, no, no, no, no.
What I was going to say waswithout and continue to take it
there, without an okay from you,they may try it, but if you
shut it down, then theyunderstand okay, this is, I

(37:12):
can't go that far, because aperson is always going to see,
feel you out to see where theycan start.
You shut it down, okay, andthen they come back for more,
but you continue to shut it down.
But if you say, oh well, youknow, and all that, then I said,
okay, maybe I can, or whateverthe case may be.
But there was a situation when Ialways asked this question.

(37:34):
I had a male friend, just aplatonic friend, who he had
cheated on his girlfriend, andso we had a conversation about
it and I said, well, she wasdoing X, y and Z, x, y and Z, so
let him finish this bill.
And I said, joe Schmo, did sheknow how this made you feel?

(38:04):
No, well, joe Schmo, did youtell her how this made you feel?
No, I said so.
You cheat on her, but you don'thave a communication to you,
didn't have, you didn'tcommunicate with her that it was
bothering you or you didn'tlike this.
But it's okay for you to cheaton her but not tell her.

(38:26):
So she doesn't.
She's blind, blindly.
She doesn't even know what'sgoing on.
Aware that you're upset withher doing this, which is, to me,
unfair because you didn't evengive a.
You didn't even give her achance to even correct.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Talk about that.
Every time you got tocommunicate with your partner,
you have to.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
You have to, and you know, while we're talking on
this, I'm reading some of thecomments and which is
interesting, not that it makesit right, but one person says
Darnell got on my nerves,because I specifically remember
that Darnell from the firstseason who was cheating on Maya,
hand feeding, kissing andflirting with his coworker.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Cecily, who was played by girl, who played Laura
on Family Matters.
Yes, I remember that episode.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
So not to say that and I agree again, maya was
wrong, but how quickly we forgetthe things that you have done.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Well, two wrongs don't make the right.
No, it does not, it does.
Well, one for me, I would belike so, maya, you didn't like
it when he did this.
Why would you do like youdidn't like how he made you feel
when he did this?
Well, I would you behave in away you know is going to make
him feel some type of way.
And if we want if y'all haven'tseen these.

(39:51):
Go watch these episodes.
We'll tell y'all in the shownotes where a girlfriend is
playing, because you should bewatching it.
But later, when he doesdiscover what's been happening,
he is literally built afriendship with this man,
because this man is one man, isnot right in the head.
So he has come down to the reccenter and been playing
basketball and befriended andbefriended and be invited to

(40:14):
their home Right.
And he talks about how, youknow she's made him look like a
fool.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Now I will say he did become a stalker.
He was talking.
I mean, he became a stalker.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
She put her family in that position and I was really
upset, like I said from start tofinish, like watching her tell
this lie, bringing her friends.
Once you, once you tell yourfriends, your friends are going
to make whatever decisions.
I don't judge friends for beingfriends, so we're going to put

(40:49):
a pin in that we can talk abouthow you feel about your friends
holding that secret later.
But the fact that she had, shelied on Joan to cover her butt,
yeah, and so I was like, notonly now, you're lying to your
husband, you're lying to youknow, you're lying to your
husband about this fair.
You're lying to your husbandabout your friend.

(41:09):
You're lying on your friend.
You've brought her into this ina way she didn't want to be in
it.
I can guarantee you she didn'twant to be in it.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Um, so now you have him upset with Joan for no
reason, because you know, right.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
But she got your back .
And first of all, let's behonest, this is television.
There are a lot of things thatare happening, but at the same,
freaking time just her boss.
So girl.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yeah, she, that was just wrong with so many levels
Like that's your job.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
You got to lose your husband.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Like yeah, that's I don't.
But I can't remember.
Did she ever come out and saythat Joan had nothing to do with
it?

Speaker 1 (41:52):
She ever do that I cannot remember.
So now I'm going to be forcedand I use that very lightly
because I'm going to enjoyrewatching I'm going to have to
rewatch that to see if because Icannot remember if she ever
came clean about Joan.
Well, maybe she did, because itall came out in that episode
when he came to the house.

(42:13):
That's right, because remembershe left all this.
So he found out because she hadbutt dialed him basically Yep,
yep, and she was having aconversation with the girls and
it was all recorded on hisvoicemail.
So she really never did reallycome clean.

(42:36):
He just found out she had triedto cut it off with Stan, but he
was stalking her.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Yeah, At that point it was it had gone too far.
Yes, and again, see, and thenyou.
There's another point to this.
You don't know a person'smindset, so you're thinking
you're being friendly, notknowing you know how this person
is going to take it.
And he took it way to theextreme.
Now he's stalking her.

(43:03):
So you set yourself up forthings like that possible.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Hashtag fatal attraction You're going to get
your bunny coils.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
Hashtag snapped.
These are things that leadpeople to do stuff like that.
You wonder, oh my goodness,what happened?
What stuff like this?
So it's just like just keep thelines of communication open.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
And let me tell you something, and I, because I feel
like people are nice, we don'tjudge people.
People have all kinds ofreasons for doing all kinds of
things, so I try not to judgepeople.
But I will tell you this If youhave decided that you need to
bring, step out on your partnerbecause you're not bringing
somebody in, that's a differentsituation.

(43:47):
If you have decided that youneed to step out on your partner
and engage activities be itmentally, physically,
emotionally with somebody else,without thinking through why
this is happening, it's alwaysgoing to be easier with that
other person so saying oh, mypartner doesn't understand me.

(44:07):
Oh, my partner nags me.
Oh, I've got this.
Of course, it's easy.
You ain't got no bills and noresponsibilities with this other
person, right, that's what itwas.
Y'all just out there living thelife.
Of course, that is easy.
Girls night is always fun, it'salways fun.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Ain't got no bills.
And you think about it.
You're telling this person oh,I'm having this problem with her
or him, and this person istaking it in.
So now they know what angle towork it from.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
They know, exactly who they need to be for you.
Yes, because you done.
Told them all your businesswhen you're not even talking to
your partner about it.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
And I guarantee you, you choose to leave your mate
and then you're going to havethe not the exact same problem,
but you're still going to haveproblems.
You are, if not worse problems.
So you know the grass.
I know it's such a cliche, butthe grass may seem greener on
the other side, but it never is.
It just never.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Whether you still got to do the work.
You got to water it.
If we're going to use the grassanalogy, you still got to do
the work.
Well, I think that's the green.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
That's the problem People don't want to do the work
.
They don't want to do the work,which is why you have
situations like this and, ofcourse, other things happen too.
But a lot of times when you dohave problem because you don't
wake up and start havingproblems and tomorrow you cheat
or you divorce, it's beenleading up to that.

(45:33):
So now, when you see a problemlike I said, I've never been
married, but when you see aissue, or rising, or you know
you're not talking to thisperson for weeks, or I'm
sleeping on the couch, obviouslythere's a problem.
At some point you need to havea communication, have

(45:53):
communication, not acommunication, but have
communication about that Exactlyand not let it just fester into
something.
But that was such a good andjust the comments you know,
saying how Maya was wrong.
It's just funny to see howdifferent viewpoints of how

(46:13):
people think.
And so the first one, like yousaid, said it's so called
friends, just like this.
That's why their man don't likeyou and you never, and you
never did anything.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
That's what you mentioned and you're like I
don't know why.
And you're like, why are youtreating me like that?
I don't even know him like that.
Yeah, but it's because she beenlying, she been using you as an
excuse when she out all nightlong saying you bought her gifts
, you know doing all kinds ofthings.
And I was like, not only isthat an out okay with your
partner to tell that lie, butyou lying on me that way.

(46:48):
Me, you ain't really my friend,because this is not like oh, I
went to dinner with so and so,girl, you know, cover for me.
I was buying him a Christmaspresent.
This is, I am lying andcheating and I have made you the
culprit in this.
I have Sullied your name andyour reputation For my own good,

(47:14):
and most of the time withouteven telling you.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Yeah, because you can see that Joan was very upset
and taken aback by that.
She should have been Once youknow, darnell left after you
know having some choice wordsfor Joan.
What are you doing?
Just don't do stuff like that.
I don't do stuff like that.
You just don't do stuff likethat.
But I tell you that is suchclassic show.

(47:41):
Who was your favoritegirlfriend?
I definitely did not like Mayaand those outfits.
Really, maya was funny.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
So I will say all of them had their issues.
Like I thought everybody shouldbe on somebody's couch and a
couple of them were in the end.
But I will say this from just aentertainment point of view
Tony is that girl.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
That girl will always be that girl.
I love Tony.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Like Antoinette Marie Giles is it.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Yes, she is.
Yes, she is.
Joan had her own issue.
Joan reminds me of the modernday being Mary Jane.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Mary Jane, I didn't watch that show Eric did, but I
know what you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
They self sabotage.
Joan was always self sabotage.
If you notice, look how manyboyfriends she had and she was
self sabotage them all.
Mary Jane Pope, it's Joan Selfsabotage.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
I loved Joan.
Now, joan was.
Joan is the person we all have,a friend like Joan, we all need
a friend like Joan as itrelates to who she is.
In her friendship, herrelationship, she was so.
She was so unsure of herselfand so unsure of her worth that

(49:06):
she, like you said, she well,she put herself one in these
relationships, chasing afterthis magic dream of this one
true love.
And she then, when it didn'twork, like you said, then she
just decided not, I'm going towork on this relationship, this
relationship that I have, that'sgood in most of the ways, and

(49:27):
fix it in other ways, becausenothing, you're not going to get
100% of what you need from anyperson.
We know that.
And so, instead of working onthose relationships and valuing
the good parts of them, whichwere, I feel like most of them
were, above the 80%, when youthink about the 80, 20 rule, oh
yeah, she was like, well, thisain't my one true love because

(49:48):
everything ain't perfect, so I'mjust going to blow it up and
move on to the next.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
I like you, but you know what.
That's what makes we needpeople like Joan.
We need people like Tony, needpeople like Maya, because that's
what makes the world go round.
We need people like Joan, Imean people with those type of
personalities.
Yeah, Because everybody can'tbe everybody.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
I think all of them see, I think all of them played
a crucial role in it.
Like, even with Lynn, I feltlike she actually kept them
grounded.
She did and I think and this isgoing to sound weird sometimes
I think they kept her aroundbecause sometimes you feel good,
feeling like you're better thansomebody else.
Let's be honest, when you getenough people in a group because

(50:39):
I always went so, I do I thinkeverybody kind of played their
role, but I do like I feel likeLynn's character growth was what
people needed to see when theyweren't feeling particularly
good about themselves.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
You saw her grow.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
You saw her, learn, you saw her.
You saw how she was able toshow the other three parts of
themselves that they needed tosee Right.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
And even though she didn't have a stable place
really to stay because she wasbouncing between the friends and
couch surfing, she always hadthe most positive attitude.
Yeah, you know, you would thinksomeone like that would be.
Oh, what was me?

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Well no, if I didn't have any bills, I'd probably be
more positive too.
Well, now, that's a sure.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
You do make a good point.
You do make a good point, butshe was just so.
She was the girl that wouldjust make you just.
If you were having a bad day,lynn, come around.
I don't want to see you, lynn.
She would stay around and youwould just feel better.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
You would, yes, you just would feel better.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Definitely you would feel better.
But I really like Tracy EllisRoss.
She just seems like a cool girl.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
She does.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
She seems like a just in real life, I tell you she is
, she, just she is bad.
I really like her.
I like her.
This was, this was good.
This was was that one of yourfavorite shows?

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Oh my gosh, yes, how was it not everybody?
One of everybody's favoriteshows, and if you've not seen it
, watch Girlfriends, like comeon now, girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
And if you've seen, Blackish, but not Girlfriends.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
There was an episode where she brought the other
three actresses in to play hercurrent day friends and Blackish
.
They were Rainbow's friends,yep, so you'll know.
You can put the faces to thenames and then go check out
Girlfriends.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
And you know what Tony and Molly from?
They just remind me so much ofeach other.
Really Insecure, Molly.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
I don't know.
Do you mean like, like theactresses physically, or yes,
yes, the characters, no, no, notthe characters but yes, when I
see Tony, I see Molly and viceversa.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
I just do.
But you know what I hate?
Hate it though.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
I hate it that it didn't work out between Tony and
Todd Me too, I was mad at thatstoryline and I always wondered
if something happened in reallife that, like one of them
needed to leave or do that.
And I know that, um, jill Marieended up not renewing the
contract towards the end.
But I really liked themtogether.
He, because he didn't put upwith her crap.
He was he.

(53:41):
He grounded her and he was goodfor her and I thought that they
made a good couple and a goodteam.
He really adored her.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
He, I mean, he really , really adored Tony.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
And I think she adored him, which is why it was
weird that they broke them up,because she and I all the things
that she thought were her typeand that she wanted and needed
in a relationship.
When she met the person thatshe really fell in love with, it
was because he didn't put heron that pedestal.
He didn't have those things.
It was a genuine connection andthey started from a friendship.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
It did, it really did , and I don't know.
I just I didn't like how thatit just I didn't like how that
ended.
But do you think always it waskind of like a it for me when
she would always thought it wasfunny.
But I will always cringe insidewhen she would call him and I

(54:39):
would joke, joke about hisheight and I'm like, ooh, is
that what we want to do?
Like you know, in the beginningit's funny, but like to
continuously say that it's likeis that how you really feel
about me?
You remember she used to climb.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
I think she, like when it started off, like you
said, it was a joke and it washaha and that's just kind of
their banter.
But I think and this is goingto sound strange I think she did
it when things weren't rightbetween them, to kind of harken
back to the good old days, so tospeak.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
So you think maybe it was kind of like a defense
mechanism.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Yes, and I think that she.
It was almost kind of like areminder of okay, I have made
this commitment to this person.
I do love this person, eventhough he on my very last nerve
right now.
It was almost like their ownlove language.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
But I will again.
I'm willing to rewatch it tosee if I feel differently now
because, let's be honest, thereare a lot of things that we saw
in movies and we were going totalk about this, but we'll have
to talk about it another timebecause we're running out of
time.
But movies and shows that weloved, that we see very

(55:55):
differently at this age.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Yes, that's true, we should do that.
Yeah, let's talk about thatnext episode, because I
definitely want to get into that.
Yeah, that you definitely see.
And look, we could even do asegment on songs, because songs
that we heard growing up we lookat very differently now songs

(56:21):
and shows.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
I don't know that I do that with songs because I
knew what those songs meant then.
So I'm always surprised whenpeople are just like oh my gosh,
is that what that lyric meant?

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Or like people playing certain songs at their
weddings that are not love songs, yeah, and not just our
generation, our parents'generation, because those songs
they just had in you window,they were not so much in your
face as now, and they were good.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
They were good, they were still good.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Yes, and it always alluded to.
It's like use your imagination,but I definitely think that was
a good subject.
But let me ask you this reallyquickly Did you like living
single?

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Why would you ask me that?
You know how I love Living StCole?
Oh my gosh, I love EricAlexander Because I know you
loved it Like in ways that Iwell.
I love Kim Fields, I love EricAlexander.
I love Queen Latifah, I loveKim Cole.
It's like I follow very fewcelebrities online Like these
are people that I follow TCCarson, john Hinton Like this
was that show, was everythingEpic, epic it was.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
It was just amazing.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
And I, I just don't.
I found out the other day andI'm like I'm not in tears but
about it, but I was really kindof irked to find out that TC
Carson was fired.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
He talked about that in an interview and before you
tell I didn't know about that,tell me what happened.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
I guess basically he had in some kind of ways become
the spokesperson for the castand when they had not even
demands but requests and things,it sounds like I'm going to
watch the clip again because Idon't want to misquote him.
I will say he said that he wasfired based on, I guess, he
would not advise the cast in acertain way, as the producers

(58:12):
and folks wanted him to.
He did.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
So they would like give him, like they would put
something, tell him something,let me, let me rewatch it I
don't want to misquote himcompletely.

Speaker 1 (58:23):
I will just say I was in my feelings to find out that
he had been fired.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Okay, we will find out.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
I will go back, I will find out more.
I will go back to that againnext time because I don't want
to.
I don't want to misquote,because I got some feelings
around it, so I want to makesure I'm getting it right.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
Okay, yeah, I definitely would, yes, love to
hear that.
Let me tell you something.
In the nineties, early 2000s,like the best shows.
Do you remember the show?
It was called, oh my goodness,mars Chestnut.
Was in it, tati LaBelle.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Out all night, out all night.
The one where the fuck, the onewhere the fuck yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
I love like we had some great shows back in the day
and it always would infuriateme how you would have these
great shows and it's just likewe're not going to redo their
contract.
Everybody's watching it,Everybody.
Like I said, I never watchedone episode of Fritz, ever like

(59:21):
ever, and I've seen bits andpieces of it and then I know I
never will watch another episode, seeing that they bit living
single.
That was their judge.
So I won't watch an episode offriends.
I know some people love friends, but I have some friends.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
There are some funny episodes in France, are they
that?
And leave it there?

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Yeah, Okay, well, maybe I, maybe I will watch one,
but I will never be fanatic offriends, because there's some
guy hard, some guy hard fans outthere and people.
I remember being in school andpeople would come back and they
would, you know, like I don'teven know what day it was.
They would come back the nextday.
Did you see friends?
And I just would be like, no, Idon't watch that.

(01:00:04):
And then I would try to watchit and it just didn't.
You know, it didn't move melike Cosby or Martin or
different, different world andwe will go.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
I won't go down, you know, get on my soapbox about it
, but this is again whyrepresentation matters.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
We want to see people who look like us in everyday
situations.
I think one of the things thatreally bothers me about a lot of
stuff and this is why I misssome of those great shows is we
are more than trauma and so Ilike the shows that we like,
that we talk about, that youjust listed.
Those are filled with everydayyou know, happenings, joy, love,

(01:00:43):
you know, and I think it isimportant for people to be able
to see that.
Like you put on a show andexpect people who don't, this is
not, they can't relate to thislife or these people's
experience at all to enjoy it.
So when people black people inparticular talk about they

(01:01:03):
didn't watch, friends, like wedidn't see, we rarely saw them.
They showed up, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
I didn't identify with that.
Like I just yeah, that makessense, but I did.
But, my God, just differentworld.
I love, like I probably.
That's probably going to be oneof the next series that I made
binge because having you know,diane Carroll as Whitney Whitney

(01:01:30):
, excuse me, whitney JasmineGuy's mom and Pala Belle being
Duane mom.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Duane, Clearton, Duane.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Yes, padeem Hardison's mom, that was just.
And then remember she was goingto marry the senator by Byron
and Padeem or Duane rushed inand the mother and Diane Carroll
was just like just that, do you?

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
remember I was like, nah, that's extreme, just that.
So, yes, we, that show wasphenomenal.
Speaking of Jasmine Guy, shejust won an Emmy the other night
.
What for her?
And I think it may be her first.
I think it may be her first,congratulations to her.
Congratulations Well overdue,well deserved.

(01:02:17):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
I saw a clip.
It was her first one becauseher and Padeem Hardison was on
the Brex Club and I didn't seethe whole thing.
But when I was scrolling onInstagram she was saying that
was her first one.
But she also said how she hasalways been a friend of Lisa
Bonet's.
Yes, so you know.

(01:02:40):
Of course she was fired becauseshe was pregnant.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
And let's say that she was fired because she was
pregnant, but she was alsomarried at the time.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
She was, they did not want the character of Denise to
be pregnant.
Because she was supposed to be,you know, college age.
So but she but Whitley saidthat, or Jasmine Guy, I should
say, said that it wasn't so muchBill.
But I don't think the network,I mean she heard rummins of Bill
but the network just did notwant to have someone who

(01:03:15):
physically was pregnant on theshow at that time.
But I just thought that showthat was such a clip.
And Mr Gaines, I mean, you know, even though he played a small
role, he was very pivotal indifferent world.
Mr Gaines, the cafeteriamanager, I mean it was just, it

(01:03:36):
was just great, it was justgreat.
But I definitely want to talkabout the movie thing next time.
But did you see this?
I just want to ask you, did yousee this?
It just came out this morning,I think girl Michael Strayhan's
daughter revealed that she hadbrain tumor.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
Yes, eric was telling me about that.
I didn't see it, but he didshare that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
Well, yeah.
So you know, keep them in a lotof layers.
It made me think about, youknow, my mind draws a blank
today.
Chat with Bozeman.
You know how people were sayingabout oh, he looked and how
they were questioning you knowwhat.
Where's Michael?
Did he get fired?
Is he quitting?
You know, because there was apoint where he had taken us a

(01:04:19):
badical and you know it wasquestions of where he was.
But you just that just goes toshow you.
Obviously he was dealing withhis daughter.
You just never know what peopleare going through and you can
make these, these assumptionsand all they probably did, and
you don't even know the man wasdealing with something that was
very traumatic in his family.
So people just need to becareful what they say, because

(01:04:41):
you never know what's going onin a person's life Like that.
Yes, I just thought that wassad.
I saw that come across my phonethis morning.
I was like, oh, so youngbecause she's 19.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Oh, so young.
Oh yes, we're definitelythinking about that family brand
for that family and so manymore.
There's so much happening inthis world.
Just be kind to one another,please just be kind.
Yeah so, we, we, we've reacheda point, y'all and we can.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Yeah so you know I actually was thinking about
something but I won't mention it.
I won't mention it.
I just you know how a lot ofthings just go on in the brain
of Lenny, yeah, and.
But you know what I enjoyed?
I enjoyed the picture that youposted, that were initially in

(01:05:30):
our group chat April was a groupchat, the literal group chat.
I just, little Catherine Casey,posted the picture of you and
her, yeah, in high schoolwearing the.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
American Eagle Apparel.
It was not American EagleApparel at the time, it was just
our regular weird denim clothes.
It wasn't weird because thething is, you saw the same
outfits in American andhilarious wearing them and I'm
sure, if you haven't seen thatpost, we're wearing them in the
90s, in 1997, as part of oursenior picture fashion shoot.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
Yeah, I loved it, but what I was thinking about when
I was at that pause, I wasthinking about that and was
thinking about this thedocumentary on apriconberry and
fish.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Did you see that?
I saw a trailer for that, but Ididn't see it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
It actually was just how they didn't want certain
people to shop there, and I tellyou people are weird.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
I would have been certain people with my butt and
my thighs, I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
Well, I could not get a cat and so probably still
can't get a cat in Because it'snot made for, you know, people
with hips, curves.
So you know it is what it is,but that's that.
That's actually.
I was thinking about thepicture, I was thinking about
that.
But yeah, guys, so that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
So let's talk about it, because we asked where we
will be sitting here talking allday long, because we will find
something that trutters.
One thought of it would be agood thing Listeners would enjoy
that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
They like to hear our shenanigans they do but I
honestly cannot wait until wetalk about the movies that hit
different as an adult, likethat's going to be.
That's going to be a hot topic.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
And I want you to get prepared.
So just some of them.
I want you all to think aboutLove Jones, love and basketball.
Baby boy fools, rush in, thinkabout some of those.
Be ready to add your own to thelist, because we're going to
ask you all on social mediabefore we talk about this.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
I have my hand up, what do?
You want to say I have aquestion.
Fool's in love.
Maybe I should know if I'veever heard oh, fools rush in no.
No, you never heard of it, likenever Fool's.
First when I saw it I thoughtit was.
Why do fools fall in love withFrankie Lyman?

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
No, they hit different too.
We can add that to the list.
Fool's rush in is with SelmaHayek and Matthew Perry, and it
is one of my favorite movies andof course I've been thinking
about it and watching it againbecause Matthew Perry got
arrested, so recently passed,and they meet on a one night
stand.
She shows up at his housepregnant and then they decide

(01:08:15):
they should marry, having atthat point not even knowing each
other's last names, I guesstechnically she shows up as a
job and then like but, and thenhilarity at some points ensue.
But it's a.
I thought it was so cute andromantic Many moons ago and now

(01:08:39):
I'm like what the heck?

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
Well, I mean, I need to tune into that because I've
never, never, heard of the movie.
Yes, please do watch it.
Oh, ok, well, you know, she,she Sam Hayek.
He's married to the gentlemanwho the Moe, or Moe as some
people call it, oh, and.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
I didn't see it.
I know what he did.
They look.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
He's like the CEO of Moe Shondon and Hennessy.
Yes, so you know, she makingthat, he make that bread that.
You know I was driving, I wasat my house for a brunch and we
were talking about something andmy brain just went off into
something.
I was like speaking out, shewas like in that 80D I'm like I

(01:09:31):
know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
And that's more like a squirrel dog with a squirrel.
What do you mean?
You see something, yourattention is automatically there
versus yes, actual yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
Thinking last night.
How many were?
How many words do we have forthe word money?
Brad, cheta, scrillard, benji'sI was thinking about that last
night.

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
Well, make a list.
You can add coin.
Yeah, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Speaking of.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Because we got to go and if I don't bring her back,
we'll be down this money roadforever.
Speaking of money, Money, money, money and building wealth and
home ownership.
Who we highlighting this?

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
week.
One that we're highlighting isTia Woods Pringle, who is a real
estate agent.
So you know, for three weeksstraight we have been focusing
on home ownership.
Yeah, home ownership is veryimportant it is, and for the

(01:10:45):
past three weeks we havehighlighted real estate agents.
So maybe this is aforeshadowing moment of those
who have been thinking aboutpurchasing.
Maybe this is a good time, maybenot right now, but I'm going to
touch with any of these folks,yes, so she works on Tia Woods

(01:11:06):
Pringle for the Headley Groupand she services Elements for
Scythe in Gifford County, andher IG handle is Tia T-E-A-H not
T-I-A but T-E-A-H the realtor,and on Facebook it is Tia Woods

(01:11:27):
Pringle, like the potato chipAlthough Pringle is not a potato
chip.
Did you know that?
But anyway, I digress.
Tia Woods Pringle, like thechip real estate broker.
Shut up.
I can see your face, eventhough I cannot see your face.
How you're looking at me.
Oh goodness, girl.
Yes, yes, please check Tia outand her email address, if you

(01:11:49):
like to email her, istiatherealtureatgmailcom.
So again, it is Tia, therealtor at IG and Tia Woods
Pringle, the real estate agenton Facebook.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
And we'll share it in the show notes and on Instagram
.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Yes, we will.
So, yes, guys.
But yeah, did you know thatPringle was not considered a
potato chip?
I didn't Just random thoughts,but yeah, it's not, guys, it's
not considered a potato chip,it's not.
And this is what you want toleave y'all.
Yeah, it's just a little known.
I like to leave our listenerswith little unknown facts that

(01:12:25):
may not be relevant, but whoknows, we'll get on Jeopardy one
day and that may be a question.
So I'm just saying Well, thereyou go, there you go everyone.
Thank you for listening, I'llget on to it.