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October 22, 2017 98 mins

In which Jeff and KC welcome rugby player, teacher, and friend to the studio to talk about their life and their journey to discovering who they were; we cover misgendering, competitive nerdiness, the confusingness of not knowing the other side of the story, traumatic memories, dark daycare families; Junction City, Kansas; being afraid versus being angry; the hard part is never being sure; the Santa Monica Geographical; midwest hoarder mom saves everything; playing the cello; orchestra competitiveness; cleaning to alleviate anxiety; from the 2X4 to a fraternity paddle; parents setting boundaries; a penis is a what?; finally feeling safe with someone; Madison gets triggered in the grocery store; trying to prove that they were a girl; they lied that they were Frankie Muniz; "I didn't need to be changed, I needed to be enhanced"; hooking up on the band bus; and more!

 

Closing Song: "Uh Huh" - Julia Michaels

 

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