Relentless Health Value

Relentless Health Value

American Healthcare Entrepreneurs and Execs you might want to know. Talking. Relentless Health Value is a weekly interview podcast hosted by Stacey Richter, a healthcare entrepreneur celebrating fifteen years in the business side of healthcare. This show is for leaders in pharma, devices, payers, providers, patient advocacy and healthcare business. It's for health industry innovators, entrepreneurs or wantrepreneurs or intrapreneurs. Relentless Healthcare Value is the show for you if you want to connect with others trying to manage the triple play: to provide healthcare value while being personally and professionally fulfilled.

Episodes

October 16, 2025 26 mins

In Episode 489 Part 2 of 'Relentlessly Seeking Value,' Stacey Richter continues the series on 'Mission Margin' by focusing on the financial sustainability aspect with guest Dan Greenleaf, CEO of Duly, a multi-specialty group. The episode dives into the balance between maintaining mission-driven healthcare, which includes affordability, accessibility, and quality, and achieving financial margins. 

Dan discusses practical strategies ...

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In this episode of Relentless Health Value, Stacey Richter talks mission with Dan Greenleaf, CEO of Duly Health and Care. Next week we cover margin. The discussion delves into the crucial balance between mission and margin in healthcare, highlighting how focusing on mission can drive financial stability. 

The interview centers around four key quadrants of Duly's mission: affordability, access, consumer experience, and quality. Gree...

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Stacey Richter is joined by Mark Cuban, CEO and founder of Mark Cuban Cost Plus Drugs, and Cora Opsahl, Health Fund Director of the 32BJ Health Fund, to discuss pressing issues in American healthcare. 

The conversation centers on the inefficiencies and complexities created by high deductible health plans and the layers of vendors self-insured employers hire to manage healthcare claims. Mar...

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In episode 487, part two, host Stacey Richter interviews Kevin Lyons, a former police detective and current Executive Director of the New Jersey State Police Benevolence Association about the application of detective skills to analyze healthcare spending. 

Following a discussion on the barriers driving up healthcare costs in part one, Lyons delves into techniques such as statement analysis and facial recognition to identify deceit ...

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In Episode 487 of Relentless Health Value, host Stacey Richter speaks with Kevin Lyons, a former police detective and current executive director at the New Jersey State Police Benevolence Association. They explore, in this two part episode, the significant challenges public sector employees face in obtaining cost-effective health benefits. 

The discussion highlights key issues, including ...

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In this episode of Relentless Health Value, host Stacey Richter sits down with Dr. Stan Schwartz, co-founder of ZERO.health, to explore the practical realities and benefits of direct contracting in healthcare. 

Dr. Schwartz shares his journey from traditional healthcare to pioneering bundled payments and direct contracts, offering actionable insights for employers, providers, and anyone interested in making healthcare more affordab...

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In episode 485, Stacey Richter interviews Dr. Cristin Dickerson on the topic of direct contracting for imaging services. They discuss the high costs of imaging, which can account for 6-11% of a plan sponsor’s healthcare spend. The episode covers the potential for significant cost savings and improved patient access through direct contracting, bypassing traditional TPAs that may have conflicts of interest or contractual constraints....

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Exploring TPA and Health Plan Inertia with Elizabeth Mitchell: What Plan Sponsors Need to Know.

In this Take 2 of episode 436 of Relentless Health Value, host Stacey Richter speaks with Elizabeth Mitchell, President and CEO of the Purchaser Business Group on Health, about the challenges third-party administrators (TPAs) face, the issues around hidden fees, and the problems with health plan inertia. 

They discuss how self-insured em...

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In Episode 484 of Relentless Health Value, host Stacey Richter talks with Dave Chase from Health Rosetta about the three most pressing questions faced by self-insured employers today. 

The discussion covers how to verify if a benefits advisor truly protects employer interests, avoiding personal liability when third-party administrator contracts have hidden conflicts, and identifying if employers are being systematically overcharged...

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In the second part of this conversation with Jonathan Baran, CEO of Self Fund Health, the focus is on reversing the negative cycle of skyrocketing healthcare costs by shifting from buying discounts to investing in primary care and better benefit designs. 

The discussion highlights the current issues with the healthcare flywheel, driven by employers buying discounts, and offers solutions such as investing in direct primary care, inc...

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In this episode Stacey Richter speaks with Jonathan Baran, CEO of Self Fund Health in a detailed exploration of what they term the 'Flywheel Downward Spiral' of American healthcare costs. The conversation delves into how electronic health records (EHR) and the incentives driving insurers, brokers, and hospital systems contribute to consistently rising healthcare premiums. 

Key points include how insurers profit from high premiums, ...

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In this bonus clip from Episode 483 of Relentless Health Value, host Stacey Richter discusses the efforts of individuals working within large healthcare organizations to improve patient outcomes despite systemic challenges. 

Guest Jonathan Baran, co-founder and CEO of Self Fund Health, highlights how incentives within the healthcare system drive behaviors that often conflict with patient and member interests. 

The discussion emphas...

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In this episode, Stacey Richter talks with Dr. Stan Schwartz, co-founder of ZERO.health about the tension between mission-driven healthcare and financial incentives within the healthcare system. Highlighting examples like the Comprehensive Primary Care Initiative and other advanced primary care efforts, Schwartz shares insights on how health system economics, particularly the reliance on emergency room admissions, often undermine i...

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In this episode, Stacey Richter discusses 'Three Surprising Ways Carriers Make Lots of Money' with Preston Alexander. The episode highlights how carriers leverage financial strategies—like using premium dollars as float, intracompany eliminations, and upcoding in Medicare Advantage—to enhance their profits. 

The discussion emphasizes the importance for plan sponsors and policymakers to understand these tactics to better manage heal...

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In this second take on episode host Stacey Richter speaks with Dr. Tom Lee, founder of One Medical and Galileo. The discussion centers on the survival of independent primary care practices in the current healthcare economy, the associated challenges, and the paradox of primary care. 

Topics include reducing ER visits, managing downstream specialty spend, and the imbalance between CMS and commercial carrier payments to primary care ...

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This short bonus episode is a side bar conversation with Dr. Tom Lee discussing why retail clinics are struggling with Dr. Tom Lee. 

They explore the shortcomings of retail clinics in providing longitudinal primary care, despite their convenience for minor urgent care and vaccinations. 

Dr. Lee emphasizes that true primary care requires consistent, long-term patient relationships and complex management which many retail clinics fai...

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Balancing Mission and Margin in Healthcare: A Candid Conversation with Dr. Ben Schwartz

In this episode, host Stacey Richter engages in a deep dive with Dr. Ben Schwartz to explore the phrase 'No Margin, No Mission' and its practical implications in the healthcare industry. 

They discuss the complex relationship between profitability and mission-driven care, the challenges of value-based care, and the role of dyad leadership. The e...

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In this Take Two episode of Relentless Health Value, host Stacey Richter reflects on her conversation with Dr. John Lee to explore the challenging intersection between mission and margin in healthcare. 

They discuss the nuances of cognitive dissonance faced by healthcare professionals, particularly when organizational priorities conflict with patient care. Dr. Lee shares insights on finding a sense of mission within the constraints...

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Enhancing Payment Integrity in Health Systems: An In-depth Discussion with Kimberly Carleson.

In Episode 481 of Relentless Health Value, host Stacey Richter speaks with Kimberly Carleson, CEO of US Beacon, about payment integrity within health systems. They delve into strategies some hospitals use to maximize revenue without raising rates and discuss the importance of accurate billing. 

Key takeaways include the high prevalence of ...

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Exploring the Complexities of Pharma Rebates with Ann Lewandowski

In this Summer Short episode of Relentless Health Value, host Stacey Richter converses again with Ann Lewandowski about the intricate dynamics of pharmaceutical rebates, or as Lewandowski prefers, post-sale concessions. 

The discussion delves into the nuances of these rebates, the impact they have on drug costs, and the hidden consequences for patients and plan spons...

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