December 30, 2024 • 30 mins
What is the Astrology 2025 forecast for the new year? Get ready for a cosmic rollercoaster in this new episode of “Age of Aquarius.” Join host Jacy Nova and tech entrepreneur Susan Brazer as they dive into the astrology behind 2025—beginning with Pluto’s game-changing shift into revolutionary Aquarius. Discover how this powerful transit could redefine technology, politics, and more—from President Trump’s return to office and grassroots movements challenging the status quo, to UFO sightings and the possibility of alien diplomacy.
Plus, Jacy Nova unveils her top 2025 astrology predictions that will blow your mind: a major political figure’s shocking departure, celebrity shake-ups like Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s relationship, Beyoncé and Jay-Z’s potential split, a Russia-Ukraine truce, revelations from the JFK files, and even surprising details about King Charles.
Don’t miss this deep dive into planetary influences, global intrigue, and out-of-this-world revelations—2025 might just be the year that changes everything!
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Jacy Nova (00:12):
Hey Cosmic Explorers, welcome back to the Age of
Aquarius, where we dive deepinto the celestial happenings
that shape our daily lives.
I'm your host, jc Nova, and I'mjoined today by my good friend
and tech entrepreneur, susanBrazer.
Say hello, susan, helloeveryone.
Great to be here with you today.
So just to give everyone alittle backstory, susan and I
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have been friends for 25 years.
We've worked together, I think,all over the world pretty much,
but maybe you can share alittle bit about how we know
each other.
Susan Brazer (00:43):
Yeah, I mean we met in around 2000.
It was really 1999 when we wereboth talking to the FIFA World
Cup group about next generationsports experiences.
That's how many years ago itwas, and it was an extraordinary
thing to be part of such a richand premier sports property and
to be innovating new ideasaround it.
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So that's how we met and we'vealways been able to have a
conversation about what's nextand what's new, and so it's
particularly cool to put it incontext of astrology, which I've
always leaned into you forguidance on.
So I think it's a new frameworkfor looking at innovation and
changes in environment, andchanges in environment and
changes in political and sociallandscape against the new Pluto
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in Aquarius.
Jacy Nova (01:29):
We actually saw each other over the holidays and just
decided that we needed to dothis podcast together, and today
we're going to be talking aboutPluto in Aquarius and our
predictions for 2025.
So buckle up because it's goingto be a pretty interesting ride
.
So I know, susan, when we weretalking over Christmas about,
like, what's the deal with Plutoand Aquarius?
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So it started November 19th,2024, and it is going to be
transiting through March 8th2043.
So we just left Pluto andCapricorn, and what that was is
Pluto and Capricorn is aboutcontrol power, and what that was
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is Pluto and Capricorn is aboutcontrol power, money, greed,
wars.
And it's interesting that we'regoing into this new era because
Pluto is the planet of deeptransformation, rebirth and
sometimes a little destructionbefore reconstruction.
When Pluto settles intofuturistic, community-driven
Aquarius, it's like the universeis hitting the refresh button
on our collective vibes.
Aquarius is all about breakingmolds, championing innovation
and reminding us that we're allconnected in the cosmic web
Translation, big, big socialshifts, fresh perspectives on
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community and the renaissance ofpersonal freedom.
And then, of course, if you'reliving in the United States, we
know we're going to have a newpresident January 20th, which
you know it could go either wayfor us.
What do you think, susan?
Susan Brazer (02:57):
Yeah, I mean, I think that the edge of Capricorn
is really got a spotlight on itright now, because that's what
half the US feels really thesort of the chaos and
uncertainty, a feeling ofsomewhat resistance, a feeling
that's catalyzed to change.
A lot of people feeldisoriented.
I think a lot of people aresuper excited about what he
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brings and sort of theirreverence to corporate
infrastructure from behind andyet he's using it.
So it's a real moment oftransition.
I think, like, astrologically,it feels exactly how it should
this transition point.
We're at the beginning of thisnext 20-year saga and the US
feels like a real, you know,blown-up view of what the change
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is about to happen.
You know we don't feel all thegoodness of it yet.
You know there's just a lot ofchange in the air and that's not
that comfortable for everyone.
Jacy Nova (03:48):
I think one of the coolest things about Pluto and
Aquarius is how it emphasizesthe power of us.
This transit can spark majormovements where people join
forces to tackle long-standingissues.
Think about 1960s andgrassroots activism, and
revolutionary technology and anoverall desire for all of us to
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create a fair playing field foreveryone.
In 2025, we might see newsocial initiatives everywhere,
from local communities to globalorganizations, as people feel
the need to unite and make realchanges happen.
They're not really happy withthe two-party system of
Republicans and Democrats, andthis is an opportunity for all
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of us to raise the consciousnesslevel.
Susan Brazer (04:33):
It's really amazing because what we also
talked about is I've beenworking on a platform called
Thin Air, which is a nextgeneration media platform.
That is a decentralizedplatform to empower people to
directly connect with oneanother and gather in groups,
and it's ideal for community.
So it is a completely nextgeneration platform that's
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launching in 2025.
So it's so ironic to have thisconversation.
Jacy Nova (04:58):
I think what's important too, what's coming up
when people are talking aboutopen AI and also Google with
their AI platform Gemini is thetalk of ethical questions to
like who controls our data andhow do we protect human values
in the AI world.
It's also like a prettyexciting time to be alive, but
also it's a critical one forbeing mindful and intentional
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about how we use technology.
I'm just curious, susan, whatis your take on the ethics
behind AI and, as being a techentrepreneur, are there any
issues that concern you or doyou think that that's overblown?
Susan Brazer (05:36):
I mean, I think that we're in the beginning
phases of where the power of AIcan take us.
Where the power of AI can takeus, and I think it does require
a lot of ethical prioritization.
There are, you know, we're inthis mode of LLMs and they can
easily break, also because theyrequire a lot of energy to scale
, and I think that there's amove that I'm in which is using
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AI to digitally transform a lotof traditional operations or
systems that are veryinefficient.
For example, media distributioncould be much more automated.
Jacy Nova (06:08):
But what about the ethics of AI, where people are
concerned that it might takeother people's jobs?
It might become sentient?
How does it share information,things like that?
Susan Brazer (06:18):
I mean, I think, ultimately, that we have a long
way to go before it becomestruly sentient.
I think there's a lot of miragebetween what's really happening
and what's going to happen, butI think it is an absolute issue
and the question is it's out ofthe bag, like, who is
controlling it?
Does it start to control itselfand we just become another
organism, not the guiding one?
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And I think that is a bigchallenge that a lot of the
leading AI innovators who havebeen working in it for a while
recognize.
I mean, I started 30 years agoat Apple working on Siri and,
believe it or not, most of whatwe could do today and much of
what we're talking about todaystill wasn't is not actualized
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by the vision that we had.
So, as fast as it's movingcertainly in 2025, I think we're
safe with that Does it?
If you become a person who canuse AI and learn some of the
tools as they improve and becomeeasier to use and more
integrated?
That, I think, is going tohappen over the next few years,
and anybody who youngergenerations will have to adapt
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and grow with that so that theycan employ the tools and become
much more efficient, much morecapable of using their time
setting things up and executing,as opposed to doing as much
manual work.
So I think there's a lot ofadvantages and there's going to
be things that we I get a smileevery time I use ChatGPT and get
something really quick and done, and I think that joy can be a
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big part of it as well.
So I think it's a tool and it'sa new digital tool and it needs
to be scoped.
Jacy Nova (07:48):
I think that's true.
I mean, I think it's going tocontinue to unfold and I think
2025 is going to be a big yearfor that, where some of those
questions will get answered.
But then I think it willcontinue to evolve as the
technology evolves.
Now let's talk politics.
One of the biggest wavesshaking up 2025 is President
Trump returning to power onJanuary 20th, so under Pluto and
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Aquarius, like I think, we canexpect a surge of public
discourse around freedom, socialreform and technology.
On the other hand, this mightreignite debates over individual
rights and how democracyfunctions in a quickly shifting
technology world.
It's been a big discussion overthe weekend about platforms
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having censorship and thediscussions around immigration
and social justice and socialissues, but also I think it's
going to reignite debates overindividual rights and how
democracy functions in a quicklyshifting technology world.
I just read that PresidentTrump requested that the Supreme
Court put a pause on the ban ofTikTok, so we'll see how that
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plays out.
Susan Brazer (08:55):
Of course he did.
They went down to Mar-a-Lago sothey had a nice chat and paid
him a check.
I'm sure that was in the offing, no matter what, because first
of all, it is good for people tostill have TikTok and secondly,
it's not Truth Social or youknow X, so it is like a third.
He can get away with it on acompetitive level.
That it's something.
But the universe, andparticularly most global youth
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culture, really thrives onTikTok and it's an easy to use
app and so the ban is sort ofnot totally necessary.
If you know, certain protocolsand behaviors were in place and
checkpoints.
They could get away with it andI'm sure that he will.
There's no doubt in my mindthat TikTok was here to stay in
my mind.
Jacy Nova (09:32):
Yeah, I also think that Pluto and Aquarius is also
going to spur some grassrootsmovements from citizens who want
to shape new policy directionsor challenge old ones.
So maybe adding a third partyRepublican, democrat Obviously
we have libertarians, but Ithink we're going to see more
organizations pop up.
But also, pluto and Aquarius isabout transformation and
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political power plays will be afront row seat for all of us on
this cosmic show.
How do you see politicallythings kind of shaking out in
2025?
Susan Brazer (10:09):
What's your perspective on that?
On January 3rd, a realgrassroots movement into
Washington to just go peacefully, dress appropriately, no guns,
and just make your cause, thatyou just want to support the
14th Amendment and not haveTrump go in.
So I don't hold a lot of weightfor that.
I'm fascinated to see who showsup.
But I do think it's interestingthat they're bringing it back,
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because there has been a lot ofrebuttal against how the court
has handled the questions facingthe 14th Amendment that you
know, Colorado put out there andColorado, you know, wanted to
take them off the ballot becauseof the insurrection and
apparently they voted for it andthe Supreme Court didn't go
with it.
So I think even at thekickstart of the year, on
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January 3rd, we're going tostart to see that grassroots
initiatives come up and I thinkthat there's a Women's March
scheduled as well.
But there are some pivotaldates, like January 6th is also
a pivotal date.
So, as we're kind of stepping into Q1, and even before he's
coronated or before he takes hiscrown, there's a lot of people
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holding their breath to kind offight from different angles, you
know, and there's very littlecoming out of the existing or
the current government, right.
We don't hear anything from theDemocrats on that level.
What I find fascinating is Iread two articles last night
about what happens to MikeJohnson.
Now that is actuallyinteresting, because the
argument is that not all of theRepublicans are happy to Mike
Johnson.
Now that is actuallyinteresting because the argument
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is that not all of theRepublicans are happy with Mike
Johnson and the way he handledthe budget passage just now.
So there seems to be a riftthat is less technical and a
little bit more about the rightversus, you know, the MAGA right
, and I think that's going toshape up Now, if they don't have
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the Speaker of the House andthey stand for that, and I think
it's January 6th he has toapprove the election results.
So I just think it's going tobe an interesting January.
The next two weeks are going tobe very chaotic.
Jacy Nova (12:11):
Well, I think with Pluto and Aquarius it's like the
great thing about social mediaand the internet is you can
connect with people from allover the world that share the
same point of view as you, and Ithink people are trusting
government less and less andthinking for themselves.
And I think change and this isjust my opinion really starts on
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a local level.
You can change, help changeyour community.
You can, you know, changepolitics on where you live and
then you go up onto the globalstage.
But I think 2025 is going to bepretty interesting.
I've gone down the rabbit hole.
I've talked with you a littlebit about it, about the rise of
drone sightings in New Jerseyand New York over the last few
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weeks and in the realm of outerspace.
We've seen that major uptick indrone and unidentified aerial
sightings lately and there areso many videos out and so many
different takes on what it isand people's collective
imaginations about alien life,like their parallel dimensions
is their life on Mars and allthese interesting questions, and
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it's under the watchful eye ofPluto and Aquarius.
Some of the topics that reallyinterest me is the space
exploration boom and that reallyis, in my opinion, driven by
Elon Musk with new missions tothe moon, mars and beyond?
Are we going to see governmentsand private companies basically
start talking about off-worldliving space stations, things
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like that?
I think that could be a topicof discussion.
Susan Brazer (13:43):
So 30 years ago I got involved with the space
industry when we launchedDirecTV, and so I've been a fan
of watching that space, so tospeak, since then, and I've
always been watching, especiallyin the past five to 10 years.
It's not only SpaceX.
They really took a leadershiprole and they work with the
company I used to work with tolaunch their rockets, ses Astra,
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but Blue Origin and VirginGalactic there's an absolute
plethora of new space techcompanies that are doing space
stations new, you know lowersatellites, you know tourism,
and I think the whole thing isgoing to open up like the 60s.
It's going to be really a wholenew era in the next decade or
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so for space travel and I seeall these new innovative
companies in space tech.
I mean it's a big space forventure capital and I think that
you know it's long overdue.
I think that the idea of thedrones, the drone technologies,
are just the beginning, right,because you know they're really
interesting how they roll, butwe can't figure out what they
are exactly.
But there's going to be a wholewide range of new types,
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drone-like cars, and you knownew.
They're called EVTOLs, electricvertical takeoff and landing
vehicles, and they areessentially like a hybrid
between cars and aircraft, andso you're going to have to see,
like, how this is going tourbanize mobility in, you know,
cities and reduce trafficcongestion, like we're going to
move from just drones doing kindof light shows and to something
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else.
So there's a group down in SanDiego that I'm working with that
does immersive technologieswith Qualcomm and they're
looking at all the archaeologyof all the things that have been
buried.
So we're now into this space ofreally trying to understand our
origin story and recognize thatmaybe the Genesis story isn't
so true.
So, who knows, it's going toring up all sorts of new
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thinking about, you know,religion and relations and
interstellar travel.
I mean, it's just really goingto be mind blowing over the next
25 years, I think.
Jacy Nova (15:44):
I think one of the when we were talking about the
drones, I thought an interestinginformation that you shared
with me is that we talked aboutElon Musk being super quiet
about all this drone activity,and you shared some information
with me which I wasn't aware of.
Is that quiet about all thisdrone activity, and you shared
some information with me which Iwasn't aware of is that his
brother owns a drone company.
Susan Brazer (16:01):
Yeah, and he bought it.
You know he watched thismagical light show.
I mean, the Chinese really areamazing at this and you know he
is in part of Elon's ecosystem,so nobody really knows what is
the drone.
There's also podcasters thatassert those are really from a
whole cabal of people fromLockheed in the space industry
that have through theirinteractions with aliens or
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space objects before that theyare.
Now they have much moreadvanced technology than we can
even imagine and they're justplaying it out.
The question is the timing,like why now you know, why do we
see all these red maps?
Jacy Nova (16:38):
Yeah, it seems it feels very orchestrated.
Susan Brazer (16:40):
Does it feel like that?
Yeah, and I don't think it'srandom.
I mean, I mean orchestrated ina very timely way.
Is it a distraction?
Is there a message there?
I think there are countlesspeople trying to ferret out the
information, but I think, inthat case, for me it seems a
little curious right now.
I mean, I can't say why, I'mnot sure.
It sounds like, it feels like adistraction to me as opposed to
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an authentic movement.
You know, maybe there's aconcern from the outer beings
that they feel that we'replaying with nuclear fire, but
that doesn't feel like thesituation at the moment.
But you know, we're not intouch with all that classified
information.
Jacy Nova (17:17):
Well, I do think it's interesting.
In Trump's last presidency hedid Space Force, which he is
part of the military, so it maysound kind of wild, but maybe
there's some alien diplomacygoing on.
Maybe we'll get more ET signals.
I do think that 2025 is a primereal estate for cosmic
surprises and possibly thedrones.
We're kind of testing thewaters to see how people would
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respond and you're from NewJersey, so I was always like
watching the shorts and videosand I was always like everyone
from New Jersey and New York arelike, oh, look at that drone in
the sky.
Nobody was like freaked out orparanoid, but they found it kind
of fun and interesting.
New Jersey.
Susan Brazer (17:55):
People are very interesting in general, they're
very direct and so they're notreally hysterics.
They can flip the table too.
So I think the thing about thedrones in New Jersey is curious
to me, because proximity to NewYork, of course, and also the
East Coast corridor, sort of themid Atlantic corridor, is where
the government is, obviously,and some of these technologies,
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it makes sense.
But there's something about NewJersey and I don't know if we
can tie it to Trump or not beingthat he has a lot of property
in New Jersey and he's that's,you know, that's his second home
, so to speak.
But I do think the thing aboutthe drones that is fascinating
is the timing right, and not somuch that they could be, you
know, governmental drones orthey can just be.
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But it's also the orbs thatseem to be, these like little
bulbous, floaty objects that youdon't even know that people are
spotting as well.
So the consistency of seeing itin Colorado and seeing the same
thing in Oregon and seeing thesame thing in New Jersey, that's
also very fascinating to me,like all of a sudden we're all
over the place.
It's not just that, it's in onelittle nook and cranny with a
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bunch of old guys noting it downon a piece of paper.
So I think we're onto somethingwith that.
It'll be interesting to see.
The other thing I just want tosay is the biggest change that I
think that centers all of thisinfrastructure is the new era in
the Pluto-Aquarius age, I think.
Quantum computing.
And we are at the incrediblebeginning, like it is in the
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inception moment, of that.
And I think that quantumcomputing is so far advanced
that you'll need it, won't beable to even use silicon chips,
that whole silicon industry thatwe've been living on since the
70s.
It's sort of going to move intoa new era.
As a matter of fact, it lookslike you need to mine diamonds
in order to kind of get a chipthat will work in a whole new
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way.
So the speed and the complexityis going to just be
extraordinary.
We have no way to imagine whatthat's going to be.
And then the need for newelectrical power to handle all
of that right, and new sourcesof renewable energy or battery
systems or smart gridinfrastructure.
There's so many changes thatwill come to support the
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breakthroughs, but thesebreakthroughs will be across
every aspect of our lives,whether it's healthcare and
developing medicine, or doingsecurity or managing electricity
or tackling even climate change.
So you know that is a secretweapon that most people don't
know about.
It is absolutely phantom atthis moment because it's so
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enormous of a change, but it'sreally, you know, we're not even
at the beginning, in a way ofthat it's.
So it's got a long way to go,so that 20 year run is going to
be very filled with quantum.
Jacy Nova (20:36):
I'm looking forward to.
Maybe we can do a time travelor or teleporting.
That would make my life fromArizona to California much
shorter.
Susan Brazer (20:44):
You know, the thing is this all blends right.
I was watching Joe Dispenza ona video the other night, who I
really like, and he reallyblends a new way of looking at
yourself, your soul and yourscience, and I found it
interesting because he talkedabout everyone having every
animal, every mammal, has apineal gland that acts
differently, but it's sort of areceptor for energy and
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frequencies and so it then getsactivated by your breath and by
your physiology and it's a big.
It connects you, I think, toother people.
So I felt like the science ofhow we operate as human beings
is really very super connectedenergetically and we really have
very.
We're just beginning to learnabout that as well.
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I think we talk about itspiritually and I think
astrologically.
You've always guided me inunderstanding what's about to
happen.
How do you connect the dotswith that to some of the changes
that we're seeing?
Jacy Nova (21:42):
I've been looking at Pluto and Aquarius for quite a
while and, on a personal level,I found Pluto and Capricorn to
be very challenging for me.
I'm a Virgo but I have a lot ofLibra in my chart.
For anyone interested inastrology, I have one interested
in astrology.
I have, when interested inastrology, I have Moon, Mercury,
Venus and Libra, along withWith Pluto and Capricorn.
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It's about structure andcontrol and it has this kind of
Saturn influence and forcingpeople to make changes that they
maybe necessarily didn't wantto make.
You had COVID, where we wereforced in a lockdown which
required people to move todifferent parts of the country,
which I think kind of shookthings up a little bit.
Now that we're in Pluto andAquarius, I think people are
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much more focused on friendshipson a local level, but also you
have your global friendshipsthat maybe you have a friend
that might be living overseasthat you never get to see but
you can connect with on aregular basis, and I feel like
Pluto and Aquarius has reallystarted this collective
conversation and also kind ofleads into, you know, the
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conspiracy theories that we seeonline.
But are they really conspiracytheories?
Are they actually the truth?
And the old guard is trying tosay, oh no, that's not true.
Like an example, Biden'sdecline the Democratic Party was
saying, oh no, he's healthy,he's fine, he's this, he's that.
Now that Trump's won, theWashington Post comes out and go
oh no, he's had dementia andhas been declining since he was
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elected.
But also, I think, in 2025, thebig conversation is about COVID
and the cover-up and vaccinesand really about healthcare and
what is true and what isn't.
Susan Brazer (23:27):
Yeah, no, I mean the healthcare thing.
I mean I can't say that we'rehappy about any of what happened
with COVID, but I do feel thatit was an enormous seismic shift
, not only in terms of ourlifestyles but our social lives.
Right, I mean, it reallychanged our balance.
Personally, I think I mean I goout a lot less than I used to,
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and maybe that's age-related,but maybe not.
I think there's so manypowerful things that happened as
a result of COVID.
So it's fascinating about someof the structural and cultural
changes that COVID had.
But on the healthcare side, boy,I do think what's your take on
Luigi?
I mean, he came out of nowherewith a lot of issues and health
issues and shined the light onthat whole Capricorn control
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point of that CEO.
I think that was the firstcannonball out of the cannon to
say you know, we're not happywith health care and we're not
happy with how it's beingadministrated and how it's being
served up actually.
So there's a lot of stories onthe whole US or the kind of
Western medical scenario, andnot everyone's too happy about
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it.
I think that's one of thedialogues that's been on social
media that everybody's reallygot multiple ideas about, and
you know, even podcasters who Ireally like are still hanging on
.
Well, you know, jfk doesn't evenlike fluoride.
I'm like that.
That one has been brought upand we've all kind of bought off
on that.
Fluoride's not so great.
You know there are things likeyou just said that that are not
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necessarily conspiracies.
They're the truth and there's adifference between conspiracy
and the truth.
Let's get to the truth if wecan.
You know it's not your truth,it's the truth and we forget
that.
You know it's hard to get there.
It's getting increasingly hardto get there.
Jacy Nova (25:11):
I do think 2025 is going to be super interesting,
which brings me to somepredictions that I have, and you
might have a few of your own,but here's what I think will be
in the cosmic pipeline Now I didwrite this yesterday A major
political figure will pass away,and God bless him.
Jimmy Carter passed away today.
Susan Brazer (25:32):
Oh my God, I didn't know that.
I didn't hear that.
That's amazing.
Well, he was holding out, youknow, a democratic victory, but
I guess he gave it up.
Jacy Nova (25:39):
Yeah, he made it to 100 years and an amazing,
talented, wonderful man, yes.
Next prediction is, I thinkRussia and Ukraine will come to
some kind of truce.
There's going to be adiplomatic breakthrough after
Trump takes office and willfinally bring a temporary
ceasefire, if not a permanentend to the war.
Russia right now is reallysuffering on an economic level
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and I personally don't thinkPutin will be around meaning not
politically, but I mean on thisplanet within the next few
years, like I do see himtransitioning Relief Another one
.
Another one is, I think TaylorSwift, assajj and her sweetheart
, travis Kelsey, libra, will getengaged this year.
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Oh, that's happy news.
That's super happy.
Yeah, I would love to see themget engaged.
I also feel like Beyonce, virgoand Jay-Z will split and I
think the P Diddy trial is goingto really heat things up and a
lot of celebrities are going tofeel the heat.
I do think that P Diddy willspill the beans per se.
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What do you think?
Susan Brazer (26:44):
Wow.
First of all, she did that bigshow down in Texas at the game
last weekend and everybody justwas wowed by her.
She is an extraordinary talentand the more she bites into that
Texas upbringing for her, Ithink it's a good thing it
distances her from the Hollywoodand New York scene.
Jacy Nova (27:02):
I think the next prediction that I have is the
JFK files will be finallydeclassified.
The long-held secrets will berevealed.
It also reignites debates aboutone of America's most enduring
conspiracy theories, but alsoabout the CIA like what the CIA
is really doing.
Conspiracy theories, but alsoabout the CIA, like what the CIA
is really doing.
And my last prediction is KingCharles will abdicate the throne
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and will step down allowingPrince William and Catherine to
become the new king and queen ofEngland.
Susan Brazer (27:31):
Wow, that sounds like a really good set of
predictions.
I believe that that sounds likethe right path for Charles, and
it's an ironic thing that hewaited his whole entire life to
get that role and now his roleis to give it to his son, so
it's very bittersweet.
Jacy Nova (27:46):
Yeah for sure.
Well, I think for most people.
I think that if, whether you'reinterested in astrology or not,
it's like, how do you ride thewave basically in 2025?
I think it's really importantthat you stay open.
Aquarius vibes really thrive onopen minds.
I think it's really importantthat you stay open.
Aquarius vibes really thrive onopen minds.
So I think it's important forpeople to stay curious, whether
it's taking a workshop, learninga new tech skill, exploring a
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social cause, anything thatspeaks to your heart, and really
this is your moment to explore.
And even if you say you'rehomebound, you can always watch
YouTube, you can always learnonline.
But I would say, really keep anopen mind.
I think also it's important tocollaborate, find your tribe or
join an interest group thatshares your values.
I think there's massive powerin collective intention.
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Really, right now, it helpsraise the vibration and it's
also really a time to releaseand renew.
Pluto can stir up old patternsthat no longer serve you, so, as
they surface, I think it'simportant to practice letting go
with compassion.
Also, forgiveness is for you,it's not for other people.
So if you're holding on to oldresentment or you haven't
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forgiven someone for maybe whatthey've done to you is to
forgive them for yourself, soyou can let go of that energy.
So I think journaling therapyor even just having a good
heart-to-heart chat with afamily member or a friend to
talk about how you're feeling,and Pluto and Aquarius really is
about a cosmic reset button andit's all about leveling up
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personally and collectively,through fresh ideas,
collaborative action andsometimes a bit of chaos.
I don't know what you think,susan, but I think 2025 is going
to be a year of sweepingtransformation that for some
people are going to feel radical, but it's also part of Pluto's
plan to help us evolve into amore connected, forward-thinking
society.
Susan Brazer (29:30):
I mean just to put this in.
At the end, I think that's allgood.
I think the economic horizon,which we didn't really address,
feels threatening and I thinkthe way you've laid it out is
that you really just have tokind of find your people and
find your way through.
It's not easy to be financiallystressed and to see so much
change in your work world and inyour financial stability.
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So I think that's going to be awrench that I'd like to throw.
I think that that is going tobe an important determinant of
people's feelings over the nextyear and their ability to relax
into the transformation.
So it's going to be a bumpyride.
That's what I think.
Jacy Nova (30:11):
Yeah, I agree.
So if you're listening and thissounds intriguing to you, we're
just getting started.
So, cosmic Explorers, be sureto like and subscribe so you
never miss another episode.
Until next time, keep embracingthat Inquiry in spirit, stay
curious, stay open and remembertransformation is just another
word for growth.
Hey Cosmic Explorers, welcome back to the Age of
Aquarius, where we dive deepinto the celestial happenings
that shape our daily lives.
I'm your host, jc Nova, and I'mjoined today by my good friend
and tech entrepreneur, susanBrazer.
Say hello, susan, helloeveryone.
Great to be here with you today.
So just to give everyone alittle backstory, susan and I
(00:33):
have been friends for 25 years.
We've worked together, I think,all over the world pretty much,
but maybe you can share alittle bit about how we know
each other.
Susan Brazer (00:43):
Yeah, I mean we met in around 2000.
It was really 1999 when we wereboth talking to the FIFA World
Cup group about next generationsports experiences.
That's how many years ago itwas, and it was an extraordinary
thing to be part of such a richand premier sports property and
to be innovating new ideasaround it.
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So that's how we met and we'vealways been able to have a
conversation about what's nextand what's new, and so it's
particularly cool to put it incontext of astrology, which I've
always leaned into you forguidance on.
So I think it's a new frameworkfor looking at innovation and
changes in environment, andchanges in environment and
changes in political and sociallandscape against the new Pluto
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in Aquarius.
Jacy Nova (01:29):
We actually saw each other over the holidays and just
decided that we needed to dothis podcast together, and today
we're going to be talking aboutPluto in Aquarius and our
predictions for 2025.
So buckle up because it's goingto be a pretty interesting ride
.
So I know, susan, when we weretalking over Christmas about,
like, what's the deal with Plutoand Aquarius?
(01:50):
So it started November 19th,2024, and it is going to be
transiting through March 8th2043.
So we just left Pluto andCapricorn, and what that was is
Pluto and Capricorn is aboutcontrol power, and what that was
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is Pluto and Capricorn is aboutcontrol power, money, greed,
wars.
And it's interesting that we'regoing into this new era because
Pluto is the planet of deeptransformation, rebirth and
sometimes a little destructionbefore reconstruction.
When Pluto settles intofuturistic, community-driven
Aquarius, it's like the universeis hitting the refresh button
on our collective vibes.
Aquarius is all about breakingmolds, championing innovation
and reminding us that we're allconnected in the cosmic web
Translation, big, big socialshifts, fresh perspectives on
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community and the renaissance ofpersonal freedom.
And then, of course, if you'reliving in the United States, we
know we're going to have a newpresident January 20th, which
you know it could go either wayfor us.
What do you think, susan?
Susan Brazer (02:57):
Yeah, I mean, I think that the edge of Capricorn
is really got a spotlight on itright now, because that's what
half the US feels really thesort of the chaos and
uncertainty, a feeling ofsomewhat resistance, a feeling
that's catalyzed to change.
A lot of people feeldisoriented.
I think a lot of people aresuper excited about what he
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brings and sort of theirreverence to corporate
infrastructure from behind andyet he's using it.
So it's a real moment oftransition.
I think, like, astrologically,it feels exactly how it should
this transition point.
We're at the beginning of thisnext 20-year saga and the US
feels like a real, you know,blown-up view of what the change
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is about to happen.
You know we don't feel all thegoodness of it yet.
You know there's just a lot ofchange in the air and that's not
that comfortable for everyone.
Jacy Nova (03:48):
I think one of the coolest things about Pluto and
Aquarius is how it emphasizesthe power of us.
This transit can spark majormovements where people join
forces to tackle long-standingissues.
Think about 1960s andgrassroots activism, and
revolutionary technology and anoverall desire for all of us to
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create a fair playing field foreveryone.
In 2025, we might see newsocial initiatives everywhere,
from local communities to globalorganizations, as people feel
the need to unite and make realchanges happen.
They're not really happy withthe two-party system of
Republicans and Democrats, andthis is an opportunity for all
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of us to raise the consciousnesslevel.
Susan Brazer (04:33):
It's really amazing because what we also
talked about is I've beenworking on a platform called
Thin Air, which is a nextgeneration media platform.
That is a decentralizedplatform to empower people to
directly connect with oneanother and gather in groups,
and it's ideal for community.
So it is a completely nextgeneration platform that's
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launching in 2025.
So it's so ironic to have thisconversation.
Jacy Nova (04:58):
I think what's important too, what's coming up
when people are talking aboutopen AI and also Google with
their AI platform Gemini is thetalk of ethical questions to
like who controls our data andhow do we protect human values
in the AI world.
It's also like a prettyexciting time to be alive, but
also it's a critical one forbeing mindful and intentional
(05:22):
about how we use technology.
I'm just curious, susan, whatis your take on the ethics
behind AI and, as being a techentrepreneur, are there any
issues that concern you or doyou think that that's overblown?
Susan Brazer (05:36):
I mean, I think that we're in the beginning
phases of where the power of AIcan take us.
Where the power of AI can takeus, and I think it does require
a lot of ethical prioritization.
There are, you know, we're inthis mode of LLMs and they can
easily break, also because theyrequire a lot of energy to scale
, and I think that there's amove that I'm in which is using
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AI to digitally transform a lotof traditional operations or
systems that are veryinefficient.
For example, media distributioncould be much more automated.
Jacy Nova (06:08):
But what about the ethics of AI, where people are
concerned that it might takeother people's jobs?
It might become sentient?
How does it share information,things like that?
Susan Brazer (06:18):
I mean, I think, ultimately, that we have a long
way to go before it becomestruly sentient.
I think there's a lot of miragebetween what's really happening
and what's going to happen, butI think it is an absolute issue
and the question is it's out ofthe bag, like, who is
controlling it?
Does it start to control itselfand we just become another
organism, not the guiding one?
(06:39):
And I think that is a bigchallenge that a lot of the
leading AI innovators who havebeen working in it for a while
recognize.
I mean, I started 30 years agoat Apple working on Siri and,
believe it or not, most of whatwe could do today and much of
what we're talking about todaystill wasn't is not actualized
(07:00):
by the vision that we had.
So, as fast as it's movingcertainly in 2025, I think we're
safe with that Does it?
If you become a person who canuse AI and learn some of the
tools as they improve and becomeeasier to use and more
integrated?
That, I think, is going tohappen over the next few years,
and anybody who youngergenerations will have to adapt
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and grow with that so that theycan employ the tools and become
much more efficient, much morecapable of using their time
setting things up and executing,as opposed to doing as much
manual work.
So I think there's a lot ofadvantages and there's going to
be things that we I get a smileevery time I use ChatGPT and get
something really quick and done, and I think that joy can be a
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big part of it as well.
So I think it's a tool and it'sa new digital tool and it needs
to be scoped.
Jacy Nova (07:48):
I think that's true.
I mean, I think it's going tocontinue to unfold and I think
2025 is going to be a big yearfor that, where some of those
questions will get answered.
But then I think it willcontinue to evolve as the
technology evolves.
Now let's talk politics.
One of the biggest wavesshaking up 2025 is President
Trump returning to power onJanuary 20th, so under Pluto and
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Aquarius, like I think, we canexpect a surge of public
discourse around freedom, socialreform and technology.
On the other hand, this mightreignite debates over individual
rights and how democracyfunctions in a quickly shifting
technology world.
It's been a big discussion overthe weekend about platforms
(08:32):
having censorship and thediscussions around immigration
and social justice and socialissues, but also I think it's
going to reignite debates overindividual rights and how
democracy functions in a quicklyshifting technology world.
I just read that PresidentTrump requested that the Supreme
Court put a pause on the ban ofTikTok, so we'll see how that
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plays out.
Susan Brazer (08:55):
Of course he did.
They went down to Mar-a-Lago sothey had a nice chat and paid
him a check.
I'm sure that was in the offing, no matter what, because first
of all, it is good for people tostill have TikTok and secondly,
it's not Truth Social or youknow X, so it is like a third.
He can get away with it on acompetitive level.
That it's something.
But the universe, andparticularly most global youth
(09:16):
culture, really thrives onTikTok and it's an easy to use
app and so the ban is sort ofnot totally necessary.
If you know, certain protocolsand behaviors were in place and
checkpoints.
They could get away with it andI'm sure that he will.
There's no doubt in my mindthat TikTok was here to stay in
my mind.
Jacy Nova (09:32):
Yeah, I also think that Pluto and Aquarius is also
going to spur some grassrootsmovements from citizens who want
to shape new policy directionsor challenge old ones.
So maybe adding a third partyRepublican, democrat Obviously
we have libertarians, but Ithink we're going to see more
organizations pop up.
But also, pluto and Aquarius isabout transformation and
(09:54):
political power plays will be afront row seat for all of us on
this cosmic show.
How do you see politicallythings kind of shaking out in
2025?
Susan Brazer (10:09):
What's your perspective on that?
On January 3rd, a realgrassroots movement into
Washington to just go peacefully, dress appropriately, no guns,
and just make your cause, thatyou just want to support the
14th Amendment and not haveTrump go in.
So I don't hold a lot of weightfor that.
I'm fascinated to see who showsup.
But I do think it's interestingthat they're bringing it back,
(10:31):
because there has been a lot ofrebuttal against how the court
has handled the questions facingthe 14th Amendment that you
know, Colorado put out there andColorado, you know, wanted to
take them off the ballot becauseof the insurrection and
apparently they voted for it andthe Supreme Court didn't go
with it.
So I think even at thekickstart of the year, on
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January 3rd, we're going tostart to see that grassroots
initiatives come up and I thinkthat there's a Women's March
scheduled as well.
But there are some pivotaldates, like January 6th is also
a pivotal date.
So, as we're kind of stepping into Q1, and even before he's
coronated or before he takes hiscrown, there's a lot of people
(11:16):
holding their breath to kind offight from different angles, you
know, and there's very littlecoming out of the existing or
the current government, right.
We don't hear anything from theDemocrats on that level.
What I find fascinating is Iread two articles last night
about what happens to MikeJohnson.
Now that is actuallyinteresting, because the
argument is that not all of theRepublicans are happy to Mike
Johnson.
Now that is actuallyinteresting because the argument
(11:37):
is that not all of theRepublicans are happy with Mike
Johnson and the way he handledthe budget passage just now.
So there seems to be a riftthat is less technical and a
little bit more about the rightversus, you know, the MAGA right
, and I think that's going toshape up Now, if they don't have
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the Speaker of the House andthey stand for that, and I think
it's January 6th he has toapprove the election results.
So I just think it's going tobe an interesting January.
The next two weeks are going tobe very chaotic.
Jacy Nova (12:11):
Well, I think with Pluto and Aquarius it's like the
great thing about social mediaand the internet is you can
connect with people from allover the world that share the
same point of view as you, and Ithink people are trusting
government less and less andthinking for themselves.
And I think change and this isjust my opinion really starts on
(12:32):
a local level.
You can change, help changeyour community.
You can, you know, changepolitics on where you live and
then you go up onto the globalstage.
But I think 2025 is going to bepretty interesting.
I've gone down the rabbit hole.
I've talked with you a littlebit about it, about the rise of
drone sightings in New Jerseyand New York over the last few
(12:55):
weeks and in the realm of outerspace.
We've seen that major uptick indrone and unidentified aerial
sightings lately and there areso many videos out and so many
different takes on what it isand people's collective
imaginations about alien life,like their parallel dimensions
is their life on Mars and allthese interesting questions, and
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it's under the watchful eye ofPluto and Aquarius.
Some of the topics that reallyinterest me is the space
exploration boom and that reallyis, in my opinion, driven by
Elon Musk with new missions tothe moon, mars and beyond?
Are we going to see governmentsand private companies basically
start talking about off-worldliving space stations, things
(13:40):
like that?
I think that could be a topicof discussion.
Susan Brazer (13:43):
So 30 years ago I got involved with the space
industry when we launchedDirecTV, and so I've been a fan
of watching that space, so tospeak, since then, and I've
always been watching, especiallyin the past five to 10 years.
It's not only SpaceX.
They really took a leadershiprole and they work with the
company I used to work with tolaunch their rockets, ses Astra,
(14:06):
but Blue Origin and VirginGalactic there's an absolute
plethora of new space techcompanies that are doing space
stations new, you know lowersatellites, you know tourism,
and I think the whole thing isgoing to open up like the 60s.
It's going to be really a wholenew era in the next decade or
(14:27):
so for space travel and I seeall these new innovative
companies in space tech.
I mean it's a big space forventure capital and I think that
you know it's long overdue.
I think that the idea of thedrones, the drone technologies,
are just the beginning, right,because you know they're really
interesting how they roll, butwe can't figure out what they
are exactly.
But there's going to be a wholewide range of new types,
(14:49):
drone-like cars, and you knownew.
They're called EVTOLs, electricvertical takeoff and landing
vehicles, and they areessentially like a hybrid
between cars and aircraft, andso you're going to have to see,
like, how this is going tourbanize mobility in, you know,
cities and reduce trafficcongestion, like we're going to
move from just drones doing kindof light shows and to something
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else.
So there's a group down in SanDiego that I'm working with that
does immersive technologieswith Qualcomm and they're
looking at all the archaeologyof all the things that have been
buried.
So we're now into this space ofreally trying to understand our
origin story and recognize thatmaybe the Genesis story isn't
so true.
So, who knows, it's going toring up all sorts of new
(15:33):
thinking about, you know,religion and relations and
interstellar travel.
I mean, it's just really goingto be mind blowing over the next
25 years, I think.
Jacy Nova (15:44):
I think one of the when we were talking about the
drones, I thought an interestinginformation that you shared
with me is that we talked aboutElon Musk being super quiet
about all this drone activity,and you shared some information
with me which I wasn't aware of.
Is that quiet about all thisdrone activity, and you shared
some information with me which Iwasn't aware of is that his
brother owns a drone company.
Susan Brazer (16:01):
Yeah, and he bought it.
You know he watched thismagical light show.
I mean, the Chinese really areamazing at this and you know he
is in part of Elon's ecosystem,so nobody really knows what is
the drone.
There's also podcasters thatassert those are really from a
whole cabal of people fromLockheed in the space industry
that have through theirinteractions with aliens or
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space objects before that theyare.
Now they have much moreadvanced technology than we can
even imagine and they're justplaying it out.
The question is the timing,like why now you know, why do we
see all these red maps?
Jacy Nova (16:38):
Yeah, it seems it feels very orchestrated.
Susan Brazer (16:40):
Does it feel like that?
Yeah, and I don't think it'srandom.
I mean, I mean orchestrated ina very timely way.
Is it a distraction?
Is there a message there?
I think there are countlesspeople trying to ferret out the
information, but I think, inthat case, for me it seems a
little curious right now.
I mean, I can't say why, I'mnot sure.
It sounds like, it feels like adistraction to me as opposed to
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an authentic movement.
You know, maybe there's aconcern from the outer beings
that they feel that we'replaying with nuclear fire, but
that doesn't feel like thesituation at the moment.
But you know, we're not intouch with all that classified
information.
Jacy Nova (17:17):
Well, I do think it's interesting.
In Trump's last presidency hedid Space Force, which he is
part of the military, so it maysound kind of wild, but maybe
there's some alien diplomacygoing on.
Maybe we'll get more ET signals.
I do think that 2025 is a primereal estate for cosmic
surprises and possibly thedrones.
We're kind of testing thewaters to see how people would
(17:40):
respond and you're from NewJersey, so I was always like
watching the shorts and videosand I was always like everyone
from New Jersey and New York arelike, oh, look at that drone in
the sky.
Nobody was like freaked out orparanoid, but they found it kind
of fun and interesting.
New Jersey.
Susan Brazer (17:55):
People are very interesting in general, they're
very direct and so they're notreally hysterics.
They can flip the table too.
So I think the thing about thedrones in New Jersey is curious
to me, because proximity to NewYork, of course, and also the
East Coast corridor, sort of themid Atlantic corridor, is where
the government is, obviously,and some of these technologies,
(18:16):
it makes sense.
But there's something about NewJersey and I don't know if we
can tie it to Trump or not beingthat he has a lot of property
in New Jersey and he's that's,you know, that's his second home
, so to speak.
But I do think the thing aboutthe drones that is fascinating
is the timing right, and not somuch that they could be, you
know, governmental drones orthey can just be.
(18:37):
But it's also the orbs thatseem to be, these like little
bulbous, floaty objects that youdon't even know that people are
spotting as well.
So the consistency of seeing itin Colorado and seeing the same
thing in Oregon and seeing thesame thing in New Jersey, that's
also very fascinating to me,like all of a sudden we're all
over the place.
It's not just that, it's in onelittle nook and cranny with a
(18:58):
bunch of old guys noting it downon a piece of paper.
So I think we're onto somethingwith that.
It'll be interesting to see.
The other thing I just want tosay is the biggest change that I
think that centers all of thisinfrastructure is the new era in
the Pluto-Aquarius age, I think.
Quantum computing.
And we are at the incrediblebeginning, like it is in the
(19:20):
inception moment, of that.
And I think that quantumcomputing is so far advanced
that you'll need it, won't beable to even use silicon chips,
that whole silicon industry thatwe've been living on since the
70s.
It's sort of going to move intoa new era.
As a matter of fact, it lookslike you need to mine diamonds
in order to kind of get a chipthat will work in a whole new
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way.
So the speed and the complexityis going to just be
extraordinary.
We have no way to imagine whatthat's going to be.
And then the need for newelectrical power to handle all
of that right, and new sourcesof renewable energy or battery
systems or smart gridinfrastructure.
There's so many changes thatwill come to support the
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breakthroughs, but thesebreakthroughs will be across
every aspect of our lives,whether it's healthcare and
developing medicine, or doingsecurity or managing electricity
or tackling even climate change.
So you know that is a secretweapon that most people don't
know about.
It is absolutely phantom atthis moment because it's so
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enormous of a change, but it'sreally, you know, we're not even
at the beginning, in a way ofthat it's.
So it's got a long way to go,so that 20 year run is going to
be very filled with quantum.
Jacy Nova (20:36):
I'm looking forward to.
Maybe we can do a time travelor or teleporting.
That would make my life fromArizona to California much
shorter.
Susan Brazer (20:44):
You know, the thing is this all blends right.
I was watching Joe Dispenza ona video the other night, who I
really like, and he reallyblends a new way of looking at
yourself, your soul and yourscience, and I found it
interesting because he talkedabout everyone having every
animal, every mammal, has apineal gland that acts
differently, but it's sort of areceptor for energy and
(21:07):
frequencies and so it then getsactivated by your breath and by
your physiology and it's a big.
It connects you, I think, toother people.
So I felt like the science ofhow we operate as human beings
is really very super connectedenergetically and we really have
very.
We're just beginning to learnabout that as well.
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I think we talk about itspiritually and I think
astrologically.
You've always guided me inunderstanding what's about to
happen.
How do you connect the dotswith that to some of the changes
that we're seeing?
Jacy Nova (21:42):
I've been looking at Pluto and Aquarius for quite a
while and, on a personal level,I found Pluto and Capricorn to
be very challenging for me.
I'm a Virgo but I have a lot ofLibra in my chart.
For anyone interested inastrology, I have one interested
in astrology.
I have, when interested inastrology, I have Moon, Mercury,
Venus and Libra, along withWith Pluto and Capricorn.
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It's about structure andcontrol and it has this kind of
Saturn influence and forcingpeople to make changes that they
maybe necessarily didn't wantto make.
You had COVID, where we wereforced in a lockdown which
required people to move todifferent parts of the country,
which I think kind of shookthings up a little bit.
Now that we're in Pluto andAquarius, I think people are
(22:29):
much more focused on friendshipson a local level, but also you
have your global friendshipsthat maybe you have a friend
that might be living overseasthat you never get to see but
you can connect with on aregular basis, and I feel like
Pluto and Aquarius has reallystarted this collective
conversation and also kind ofleads into, you know, the
(22:49):
conspiracy theories that we seeonline.
But are they really conspiracytheories?
Are they actually the truth?
And the old guard is trying tosay, oh no, that's not true.
Like an example, Biden'sdecline the Democratic Party was
saying, oh no, he's healthy,he's fine, he's this, he's that.
Now that Trump's won, theWashington Post comes out and go
oh no, he's had dementia andhas been declining since he was
(23:16):
elected.
But also, I think, in 2025, thebig conversation is about COVID
and the cover-up and vaccinesand really about healthcare and
what is true and what isn't.
Susan Brazer (23:27):
Yeah, no, I mean the healthcare thing.
I mean I can't say that we'rehappy about any of what happened
with COVID, but I do feel thatit was an enormous seismic shift
, not only in terms of ourlifestyles but our social lives.
Right, I mean, it reallychanged our balance.
Personally, I think I mean I goout a lot less than I used to,
(23:48):
and maybe that's age-related,but maybe not.
I think there's so manypowerful things that happened as
a result of COVID.
So it's fascinating about someof the structural and cultural
changes that COVID had.
But on the healthcare side, boy,I do think what's your take on
Luigi?
I mean, he came out of nowherewith a lot of issues and health
issues and shined the light onthat whole Capricorn control
(24:12):
point of that CEO.
I think that was the firstcannonball out of the cannon to
say you know, we're not happywith health care and we're not
happy with how it's beingadministrated and how it's being
served up actually.
So there's a lot of stories onthe whole US or the kind of
Western medical scenario, andnot everyone's too happy about
(24:35):
it.
I think that's one of thedialogues that's been on social
media that everybody's reallygot multiple ideas about, and
you know, even podcasters who Ireally like are still hanging on
.
Well, you know, jfk doesn't evenlike fluoride.
I'm like that.
That one has been brought upand we've all kind of bought off
on that.
Fluoride's not so great.
You know there are things likeyou just said that that are not
(24:57):
necessarily conspiracies.
They're the truth and there's adifference between conspiracy
and the truth.
Let's get to the truth if wecan.
You know it's not your truth,it's the truth and we forget
that.
You know it's hard to get there.
It's getting increasingly hardto get there.
Jacy Nova (25:11):
I do think 2025 is going to be super interesting,
which brings me to somepredictions that I have, and you
might have a few of your own,but here's what I think will be
in the cosmic pipeline Now I didwrite this yesterday A major
political figure will pass away,and God bless him.
Jimmy Carter passed away today.
Susan Brazer (25:32):
Oh my God, I didn't know that.
I didn't hear that.
That's amazing.
Well, he was holding out, youknow, a democratic victory, but
I guess he gave it up.
Jacy Nova (25:39):
Yeah, he made it to 100 years and an amazing,
talented, wonderful man, yes.
Next prediction is, I thinkRussia and Ukraine will come to
some kind of truce.
There's going to be adiplomatic breakthrough after
Trump takes office and willfinally bring a temporary
ceasefire, if not a permanentend to the war.
Russia right now is reallysuffering on an economic level
(26:02):
and I personally don't thinkPutin will be around meaning not
politically, but I mean on thisplanet within the next few
years, like I do see himtransitioning Relief Another one
.
Another one is, I think TaylorSwift, assajj and her sweetheart
, travis Kelsey, libra, will getengaged this year.
(26:22):
Oh, that's happy news.
That's super happy.
Yeah, I would love to see themget engaged.
I also feel like Beyonce, virgoand Jay-Z will split and I
think the P Diddy trial is goingto really heat things up and a
lot of celebrities are going tofeel the heat.
I do think that P Diddy willspill the beans per se.
(26:43):
What do you think?
Susan Brazer (26:44):
Wow.
First of all, she did that bigshow down in Texas at the game
last weekend and everybody justwas wowed by her.
She is an extraordinary talentand the more she bites into that
Texas upbringing for her, Ithink it's a good thing it
distances her from the Hollywoodand New York scene.
Jacy Nova (27:02):
I think the next prediction that I have is the
JFK files will be finallydeclassified.
The long-held secrets will berevealed.
It also reignites debates aboutone of America's most enduring
conspiracy theories, but alsoabout the CIA like what the CIA
is really doing.
Conspiracy theories, but alsoabout the CIA, like what the CIA
is really doing.
And my last prediction is KingCharles will abdicate the throne
(27:23):
and will step down allowingPrince William and Catherine to
become the new king and queen ofEngland.
Susan Brazer (27:31):
Wow, that sounds like a really good set of
predictions.
I believe that that sounds likethe right path for Charles, and
it's an ironic thing that hewaited his whole entire life to
get that role and now his roleis to give it to his son, so
it's very bittersweet.
Jacy Nova (27:46):
Yeah for sure.
Well, I think for most people.
I think that if, whether you'reinterested in astrology or not,
it's like, how do you ride thewave basically in 2025?
I think it's really importantthat you stay open.
Aquarius vibes really thrive onopen minds.
I think it's really importantthat you stay open.
Aquarius vibes really thrive onopen minds.
So I think it's important forpeople to stay curious, whether
it's taking a workshop, learninga new tech skill, exploring a
(28:07):
social cause, anything thatspeaks to your heart, and really
this is your moment to explore.
And even if you say you'rehomebound, you can always watch
YouTube, you can always learnonline.
But I would say, really keep anopen mind.
I think also it's important tocollaborate, find your tribe or
join an interest group thatshares your values.
I think there's massive powerin collective intention.
(28:30):
Really, right now, it helpsraise the vibration and it's
also really a time to releaseand renew.
Pluto can stir up old patternsthat no longer serve you, so, as
they surface, I think it'simportant to practice letting go
with compassion.
Also, forgiveness is for you,it's not for other people.
So if you're holding on to oldresentment or you haven't
(28:51):
forgiven someone for maybe whatthey've done to you is to
forgive them for yourself, soyou can let go of that energy.
So I think journaling therapyor even just having a good
heart-to-heart chat with afamily member or a friend to
talk about how you're feeling,and Pluto and Aquarius really is
about a cosmic reset button andit's all about leveling up
(29:11):
personally and collectively,through fresh ideas,
collaborative action andsometimes a bit of chaos.
I don't know what you think,susan, but I think 2025 is going
to be a year of sweepingtransformation that for some
people are going to feel radical, but it's also part of Pluto's
plan to help us evolve into amore connected, forward-thinking
society.
Susan Brazer (29:30):
I mean just to put this in.
At the end, I think that's allgood.
I think the economic horizon,which we didn't really address,
feels threatening and I thinkthe way you've laid it out is
that you really just have tokind of find your people and
find your way through.
It's not easy to be financiallystressed and to see so much
change in your work world and inyour financial stability.
(29:54):
So I think that's going to be awrench that I'd like to throw.
I think that that is going tobe an important determinant of
people's feelings over the nextyear and their ability to relax
into the transformation.
So it's going to be a bumpyride.
That's what I think.
Jacy Nova (30:11):
Yeah, I agree.
So if you're listening and thissounds intriguing to you, we're
just getting started.
So, cosmic Explorers, be sureto like and subscribe so you
never miss another episode.
Until next time, keep embracingthat Inquiry in spirit, stay
curious, stay open and remembertransformation is just another
word for growth.
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