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Are you exhausted?
Trying to keep up with everything thatyou have to do, everything that you
have to track, and all of the outcomesthat you feel you have to manage.
As you know, as a real estateagent, we carry so much anxiety is
right there underneath the surface.
We're juggling deals.
We're worried about getting ghosted.
We're overthinking every conversation.
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And we need to stop doing that.
I've been there and I know how heavyit is, and I know what a struggle
this is for real estate agents.
But what I'm gonna share with youtoday is that one thing that changed
it all for me, , my mindset, mybusiness, and honestly my entire life.
, , and you might be wondering,well, what is that game changer?
Well, the answer is to detachyourself from the outcome.
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. I know this sounds a lot easier than itreally is, but hopefully by the end of
today's session you'll understand howyou can detach from the outcome no matter
what it is you need to detach from, andthat your happiness is already there.
You don't have to doanything for your happiness.
You just need to be, and whenyou detach from the outcome.
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It's easier to just be
So again, if you wanna get ridof the feeling of that stress
and the overthinking and thepressure that's stealing your
joy, then this episode is for you.
Stick around.
Welcome risers.
It's that time once again for the AgentRise podcast where we help real estate
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agents build a business they love.
I'm your host Neil Wig, andtoday I'm sharing the single
most, the biggest mindset.
Hack that I've ever experienced,and the difference that it's made to
remove anxiety, to remove overwhelm,to remove, overthinking, and it all
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comes from detachment of the outcome.
See, our happiness is not determined on.
On the outcome of something.
And I think a lot of us strugglewith this, where we, um, attach our
happiness with, with the outcome, ifwe're gonna get this listing or if this
is gonna close or not, or what thisseller is thinking of me, or is this
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client gonna call me back or ghost me?
Um, is this person gonnaslam the door in my face?
We overthink the outcome and therefore.
We're afraid to step into it becauseif you think about anything that you're
afraid of doing, it's usually becauseyou're afraid of the outcome, right?
Like, if you're afraid to, to doyour taxes, let's say you're afraid
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of the outcome of how much you wouldowe, , let's say that you also are
afraid of, um, calling that seller that,
their house isn't selling andyou need to, to call the seller.
See, you're afraid of the outcome.
Or, you like the idea of maybedoing something like door knocking
or geo-farming, but, but boy,what if it doesn't go well,
and I'm afraid of the outcome?
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We attach our happiness to theoutcome, and if you guys think
about it, happiness is within us.
When we're born, we have happiness.
We come out of the womb happy, butthen we get all these things that
get in the way of our happiness.
And, and, and most of those thingsare things that we're attached to.
If I were to take away some of the thingsthat you're attached to, like, like your
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success in your career or, uh, maybeyour degree or, or, or whatever it is
that you have found that your happinessis based on, that's an attachment.
And if you can detach from that.
And, and, and have happiness and joyno matter what, no matter, no matter
the outcome, then, then there'snothing to be attached to, right?
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Like, like I get anxiety andfear, uh, because I'm, I'm
afraid of what might happen.
I'm afraid of what the outcome might be.
And so I'm, I'm overthinking that outcome,or, you know, some of the things that
I have to do in my, in my business.
I, I, you know, like some of the morechallenging things that I have to do,
uh, I'm a little reluctant to do thembecause I'm, I'm afraid of the outcome.
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Right.
But if I detach from the outcome andI'm no longer a afraid of it, , i just
believe that everything is gonna work out.
It always has, and it always will.
When you're hit with a challenge, you,the challenge is one thing, right?
But then your thoughts aboutthat challenge is another thing.
And you could get hit with this challenge,and have your thoughts just be like, okay,
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we're gonna, we're gonna address this.
And in timing, everything is gonnawork out and everything is fine.
Or you can get all stressed out.
You can cause yourselfall kinds of anxiety.
You can lose a bunch of sleep, you canincrease your blood pressure, you can
do all kinds of damage to yourself.
It's the thinking that makes it so right.
The, the challenge is still the challengeand your thoughts are still the thoughts.
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And so a lot of us get this confused thatwhen we have a challenge, we, we get all
in a tizzy and we get all worked up and,and because we're all worked up, we have
a really hard time with the challenge.
But if we were to just stay calm anddetach ourselves from the outcome,
the challenge is just going to.
Is just gonna get met, right?
The challenge is gonna get dealtwith, and especially if you don't
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have any thoughts of fear and anxietyand stress all around the challenge,
it's actually easier to deal with it.
You have a clearer mind, right?
So you have all your energy to beable to deal with the challenge.
When, when you're all frazzled,you don't have any energy, you're.
You're, you're too busy tryingto take care of yourself.
You got an anxiety attack or youknow, a lot of, a lot of things
going on, emotions going on, right?
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And so it's just so noisy thatyou can't even see the answer.
You can't even hardly deal with it.
And then there's so much feararound the outcome of it and what
might happen that you, you, youstruggle to even deal with it, right?
So when you learn to detach, whenyou learn to, to just let be.
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Then, then all of a sudden you juststart to see things moving forward.
And for me, that's just been a bigpart of my, my life is like if I
can just detach from the thoughts Iknow everything is gonna work out.
I know it, it always does.
If you think back, think, thinkabout something that maybe
stressed you out not too long ago.
Just think about it.
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Maybe, maybe it was a few weeks ago,something that really bothered you.
Right?
Just so, so just think about that andhold onto that thought and then now
look at how things have turned out andlook at the fact that thinking makes
it so the past doesn't even exist.
The past doesn't exist.
It only exists in our mind.
And so this fear stands in ourway and we prevent, it prevents
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ourselves from doing anything.
Right, because if you think aboutthe difficult things that you have to
do, you know, think about those, youknow the difficult things you have
to do, and if you remove yourselffrom it, if you actually get out,
of your own mind and remove yourselfof it, it's not a big deal at all.
Right?
But, but in our mind, it is in our mind.
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It, it, it, it keeps going.
And so when you can detach yourself fromthe outcome, then all of that goes away.
I wanna make five key points here today.
Okay.
So the first one is whatattachment really is.
And what attachment is, is youclinging to deals or outcomes or
approval, uh, and believe that thisis the source of your happiness.
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Like I will be happy once I produce this.
I will be happy.
Once my business getshere, I will be happy.
Once we move into thatnew home, I will be happy.
Once I get that new car, I will be happyonce I have enough money to hire somebody.
Right?
So we, we attach our happiness.
To deals, to outcomes, to approval,I'll be happy once I get accepted,
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uh, by these clients, right?
And in real estate.
It shows up in anxiety over closingsand what ifs and, uh, do they like me?
And why, why do they pick me?
Or did they pick somebody else?
Right?
So this is what most of us do wrong.
Our happiness is not basedon any of this, right?
We already have happiness.
We don't have to do anything for it.
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We just have to be, we came out of thewomb happy, our happiness is already
there and, and what we have to do isjust detach from the outcomes that
we think our happiness is based on.
the second point I wanna make here is thatthere's an illusion of happiness, right?
Like, like I remember yearningso much for double centurion.
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If anybody's with Century21, you know what I mean?
Back in the day, I was, uh, a Century 21agent and I was a centurion, which you
had to do a certain amount of volume,and then you got this award, and then
my ultimate goal was to become a doublecenturion, like double the award.
And I did it.
I, I did it.
Um, in multiple years, um, I had,uh, if you go back and look at
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one of my first videos, you, youcan see in the background I have.
All of my trophies behind me.
So I, I, I really took pride inall of these trophies and I really,
I based my happiness off of it.
I based that if, if, you know,everything's gonna go well and
I'll do whatever it takes, uh,as long as I get those awards.
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And when I learned what I learned now,and this was many years ago, and I'm going
to, I'm gonna teach this here today, ofremoving yourself from the attachment.
Uh, what I. When I left for a full-timeRV back in 2020, I had a bin full
of all of these trophies, and I, atthe time had learned this mindset.
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I had learned that I needed to detach fromthings that my happiness is not based on,
uh, events, people, things, my happiness.
I already have my happiness.
And so when I learned this.
And then I sat and stared at thisbox of trophies and decided if they
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should go in the storage unit orif I should just throw 'em out.
Um, I decided to throw 'em out.
I had no pain around it at all.
I was detached from it.
It's just some hunks of metal,um, that, that really meant
absolutely nothing to me.
And I, and I threw them out.
And I'm telling you, thisillusion of awards is.
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It is such a challenge in our lives.
Uh, we, we feel that we won't behappy unless we, , have that dream
house or have the dream vehiclesor go on the dream vacations.
We won't be happy unless we have allof the success and we're the number one
agent and we have all of the trophies.
And I'm here to tell you, and I'm sureyou've heard this from many other people,
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is that that does not bring happiness.
It brings joy and it brings thrills andexcitement and things to look forward
to and fun times and all of that.
But you'll also learn that thependulum swings the other way, and
if you're going for that, for yourhappiness, if you're yearning for that.
To be your happiness or if you'regoing for vacations and all of that.
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If that is what you're basingyour happiness on, then
your happiness is fleeting.
It's coming and going.
You know it remember how happy youwere when you got that new car and
now you probably could care less.
Right.
You remember when youmoved into that new home?
Uh, you know, I remember when Iwent full-time RV and I had this
moment of pure bliss and like,it's just absolutely amazing.
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But then depression came right afterthat 'cause that pendulum swings.
But if you don't base your happinesson those things, then the pendulum
doesn't swing and you get to enjoy life.
You get to go through amazing thingsand, but you always have your happiness.
Right.
I always have my happiness, and thenwhen I go on a vacation, that's a thrill.
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That's exciting.
But I still have my happinessEverywhere I go, I have my happiness.
It, I, I, I detach from the outcome.
I don't need something orsomebody to make me happy.
I already am happy.
I don't need to stress out abouta deal because my happiness
isn't based on that deal.
Right.
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And one of my, my best examples ofthis, uh, when I put this to practice
for the very first time, I think it wasback in 2017 or 18, I had a client that
had bought a house with me and theyneeded to sell their previous home.
And I had their previous home listedand we got an accepted offer on
it, and we got through inspectionand I received an amendment.
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With like the, I, I don't know whatyou want, how you wanna say it, but
it was like a, um, the trifecta.
It needed a new roof, it needednew windows, and it needed a new
furnace according to the inspector.
And I got an email from the buyer'sagent, uh, and in the morning, uh, with
the inspection report and an amendment,uh, uh, request to, uh, to repair and.
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It was, it was hefty, right?
And my buyers were already in mysellers, I'm sorry, my sellers
were already in their new home.
So I was concerned,boy, this is a big deal.
This is a lot of money.
And I'm sure theyweren't planning on this.
So, uh, I knew that they were bothat work, and it was a part of our
agreement that I would email themduring the day and email them both.
Because they both work desk jobsand they can communicate via email.
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Um, and so, uh, it was justbest to email them both.
So I forwarded the email andI, I explained everything that
the, that I had learned about,uh, what the agent had told me.
The buyer's agent had told me.
Um, I explained all of it in anemail and then I asked them to
set up a time with me to meet and,um, and so I sent off that email.
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I then got the email back from her.
Uh, it was a very nasty email.
She wasn't happy and Idon't, I don't blame her.
She was not happy about the situation.
Uh, she couldn't believe that theywere looking at it all this way.
And, uh, she sent me a very nasty email,almost pointing fingers at me and just.
Went on and on.
And then at the bottom of the emailshe said, we unfortunately can't
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meet today until four o'clock.
I have this and my husband has this,and so we'll meet at four o'clock.
Sounds good.
We'll see you then.
End of email.
And, um, so I'm sitting there withthis nasty email, kind of feel like
she's attacking me, uh, kind of nervousthat this deal isn't gonna close.
And, you know, just this, all this stress.
Right.
That I could easilyjust con up here, right?
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I could, it depends onhow I react to her email.
Is, is is how I'm feeling, right?
And so I, I read the emailand I understood that she was
upset and I replied, and I, I,I wrote a, a bit of a reply.
I did spend a lot of time on it.
I just said that we will meetat four o'clock and we'll
figure out how to move forward.
We'll come up with a solution and,uh, and we'll leave it at that.
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And I had learned at this time todetach myself from the outcome I had
learned to compartmentalize thingsand to just say, okay, that meeting
comes at four o'clock and we're gonnaaddress things then there's nothing more
that I should be doing at this time.
Uh, old Neil would've been frantic.
I probably would've tried tocall her and talked to her.
I probably would've bothered her at work.
I probably would've, uh, been been, youknow, talking to the inspector and talking
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to HVAC companies and I just would've.
I, I don't think I wouldn't be ableto sit still with it, but I said no.
In this case.
Um, you know, uh, the right now,I, I can't overthink the outcome.
I, I can't attach myself to the outcome.
Uh, I'm not worried about the outcome.
Instead, what I'm gonna do is I'mgonna meet with them at four o'clock
and we'll come up with a plan,and then we'll address it then.
Okay?
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And so I just.
I just left it be, I leftit be so much that I almost
forgot about the appointment.
If it wasn't for my little 10minute reminder reminding me,
you know, my calendar reminder, Ialmost forgot about the meeting.
That's how much I was ableto detach myself from it.
We get on the meeting, it'sabout a five to 10 minute meeting
with the, with the sellers.
She starts off apologizing tome, says that I'm really, really
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sorry for sending that email.
I know this isn't your fault.
And I, I, I accepted her apologyand I said, okay, no problem.
Let's, let's figure outhow to move forward here.
And, and he said, I thinkI have the solution.
I called the HVAC company, uh, toget an estimate for a new furnace.
And they have a deal going right nowwhere they include a free air conditioner.
So what if we go back?
'cause the air conditioner isjust as old as the furnace.
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So what if we go back to the buyerand say, Hey, we'll, we'll give
you 500, $5,000 for the roof.
Because the roof wasn't at the endof its life, but it was pretty close.
And so what if we give them 5,000for a $10,000 roof or 7,500 roof?
We give 'em $5,000 and we givethem a furnace and a and a air
conditioner, and they can take careof the windows if they want to.
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'cause the windows were also debatableif they were, were repairable or not.
Okay?
So he told me this.
I said, Hey, that sounds great.
I called the buyer's agent.
Buyer's agent says, that sounds amazing.
Send it over and done deal.
All right.
Now how did I. How did Idetach myself from that?
Because that, that sounds great, right?
Like, oh, that's all I gotta do.
I just gotta detach myselfand that's no problem.
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But how did I do that?
Or what were the thingsthat I said in my mind?
Okay.
First of all, I said thatthe, the roof and the furnace
and the windows, the, this.
These are not mine.
This is not my fault, right?
Uh, I don't own these.
Th these are not my windows.
These are not my roof.
This is not my furnace, right?
This is theirs, okay?
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And if it was in bad condition,they should have repaired it, right?
So right there, I'm gonna attach myself.
I also told myself thathouses don't bleed.
Like this isn't an emergency.
And I also told me, toldmyself that everything is gonna
work out for my greater good.
It always does and it alwayswill, and everything's gonna
work out for everything.
Everybody that's involved here,it's all gonna work out and, and
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I just need to, there's nothingthat I need to do right now.
I need to have this meeting with themat four o'clock, decide what we want
to address and how to address it,and then I'll go to work from there.
But I'm not gonna stress out about it.
I'm not gonna overthink any of this.
I'm not gonna get myselfattached to the outcome.
Instead, I'm gonna tell myself thateverything is gonna work out, and
I'm gonna be at that meeting at fouro'clock and we'll handle it then and
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we'll talk about a solution then,and then we're gonna address it.
And how we go about addressingit isn't gonna hurt me either.
Right.
That no matter the outcome, andif this deal all falls apart and
they fire me over it and they gowith another agent, everything's
gonna work out anyways, right?
I don't need to beattached to the outcome.
So next time you're in a stressfulsituation, or next time you have to
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do something that doesn't excite you,don't get attached to the outcome.
It's that simple.
the next point that I wanna make hereis that the goal is freedom, okay?
And happiness is your natural state.
You have to understand thathappiness is your natural state.
You're naturally happy, butit's all covered up and it's
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all in the way with attachments.
So when you detach, then.
Away it goes.
Another thing Anthony Emiliosays this is that that, uh,
sorrow is the root of attachment.
So when, when you're experiencing sorrow,it's because you're attached to something.
And in order to remove thatsorrow, you need to detach.
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And see when you, when you don'tdetach, when you're attached to the
outcome or you're clinging to yourclients or you're clinging to this
deal, what does that clean do it right?
It's giving you fear and stressand anxiety, and what does that do?
It only gives you more of that, right?
So instead.
Detach and just know thateverything is gonna work out.
Know that, that, that, that stress isonly doing harm to your body, right?
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Like, look at it in two differentexamples, like two different situations.
You've got the, the, the situationitself that you're afraid of and
that you're fearing, and you'vegot your own mindset, right?
Nobody upsets you.
You upset yourself.
That might be a hard one to,to grasp, but think about that.
Nobody upsets you.
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You upset yourself.
I. Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
They upset me.
They did this to me.
No, no, no, no, no.
Wait, wait.
It's your thoughts that upset you, right?
You are the only thinker in your thinker.
You're the only one incontrol of your thoughts.
It's your thoughts that upset yourself,and it's the attachment to the
outcome that definitely has upset you.
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And the next point I wannamake here is how do you let
go of attachments like this?
Sounds easier than itactually is, but it's not.
I mean, it really isn't.
You can decide right now that I'm notgonna attach myself to that outcome.
And, um, like we think about it like the,the root of attachment, um, is desire.
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You have a desire for somethingand in order to tach you
need to remove that desire.
Um, so then we start to think, well,should we just have a desireless life
then and we don't have any desires?
No, that's not the case.
You can detach and, and, and stillreceive amazing things and, and, and
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be in a place of love and receiveall kinds of amazing things in your
life, , but you're not attachedto them for your happiness, right?
You, you, you have desires, you havegoals, you have things that you wanna
receive in your life, but you'renot, not saying, Hey, if I don't
get that, I'm not gonna be happy.
I must get that in orderfor me to be happy, I.
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That's the mistake, right?
So your happiness isnot dependent on that.
Your happiness is you already have it.
You don't have to do anything for it.
You just have to be.
And once you are happy, thenyou just receive all kinds of
amazing things in your life.
The stress goes away.
The overthinking goes away.
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You stop caring whatpeople think about you.
You stop caring about howthis is gonna turn out.
You, you, you, you'regonna see it turn out.
You're gonna see it all come, and you'regonna have a lot of energy to turn it out
because you're not full of fear and stressand anxiety in order for it to happen.
You're gonna hold it loosely,and then you're gonna just see
more and more things happen, andyou're gonna enjoy every bit of it.
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Like I, I, one of my favorite, uh,saves, there's a, a bumper sticker that
I see in the parking lot at my officethat, um, uh, uh, somebody has on their
car that says, don't Monday, my Sunday.
Don't Monday, my Sunday.
Um, I, I think we do this all of the time.
We, we are enjoying a beautifulSunday, but we're so worried about
we, what we have to do on Mondaythat we can't even enjoy our Sunday.
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Right?
So don't Monday.
My Sunday.
And you can do this.
This is just an example.
You do this all of the time.
Right.
Everything that you think you haveto do that's really challenging.
Uh, you, you, you're, you, youoverthink it, and then you,
you're so afraid to do it becauseyou're so afraid of the outcome.
And if you just detach yourselffrom the outcome, then you
find yourself just doing it.
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It's easy.
Because on the surface, the thingthat you're afraid of doing, it's
probably really, really easy.
Right?
It's, it's probably gonna takeyou five minutes to do it.
But the, but the outcome, what couldhappen with the rejection, the, the bad
news that I could get, the, you know,that's what's preventing us from doing it.
Right.
The task itself is really, reallyeasy, and I think a lot of us, if we,
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if we think about where we're at inour business and the things that we
know we should be doing, but we're notdoing them, it's because we're afraid
of the outcome, we're afraid of, ofrejection, we're afraid of it not working.
We're afraid of putting energytowards something and it going wrong.
We right?
So we're afraid of the outcomeand we're attached to the outcome.
Our happiness is attached tothe outcome, and, and I'm, I
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want you to hear today here.
Detach yourself from that outcomeand have the happiness, have
the joy, have it right now.
It's nothing that you have to go for.
Nothing you have to earn for.
You just have to be.
You just have to have it, and there it is.
So let's wrap this up.
I, I wanna, I want to bring this into somereal life examples for real estate agents.
Okay?
So if you've got fear around, you know,maybe prospecting, getting out there and,
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and, and you're afraid of the rejection,uh, or maybe you've got fear of calling
a client and giving them an update.
Uh, maybe you've got feararound a listing, not selling.
Um, maybe you got fear about this dealthat's gotten really shaky and you're
just concerned that it's not gonna close.
And if it doesn't close, you know howmuch this is gonna hurt the seller.
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And, you know, you got,you got these fears.
You wanna mail to your sphereof influence, but you're
afraid that they're, um.
They're gonna look, kind of, lookat you kind of funny because, uh,
you haven't done a very good job ofkeeping up with the relationship,
but now you're soliciting to them.
Um, you've got fear about that socialmedia post, like, this is stupid.
Nobody's gonna, nobody'sgonna comment on this.
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Um, and you've got fear aboutposting this, this social media
post, or maybe you got fear about.
Balancing your books and actuallylooking at, at the numbers and
looking at where your business is.
Maybe you got fear about your pipeline,like you don't wanna look at your
pipeline because you know how lowit is and you're, you're afraid.
Um, you know, there's some somehonest things that you need to look
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at in your business, but you'reafraid of looking at them because
you're attached to the outcome.
And so what I wanna encourage you todayto do is to just do those difficult
things and don't think about the outcome.
Just remove yourself from theoutcome before you go to do it.
Don't, don't worry about the outcome,just go do the activity and, and, and
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little by little you're gonna startto see this in your life that, wow,
I can detach myself from the outcomeand, and I can still care, I can still
have desires and I can still want thisto turn out great for my client, and
I can still put the work towards it.
But I'm not gonna base my happiness onthe, on the fact that if this happens
or doesn't happen, like I alreadygot happiness, I already got it.
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I don't have to do anything for it.
I already got it.
I just have to be, I just have to be.
And if I'm, if I'm, if I'm being,and I'm not attached to the outcome,
then I don't have to worry aboutlosing my happiness either, right?
Because whatever the outcomeis, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna
let that affect my happiness.
I'm not gonna go there.
Right, and so just practice this little bylittle so you don't have to listen to me
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anymore or read any more books about this.
You can just start seeing it in yourown life, and then when you start
seeing it in your own life, justpractice it even more and more and more.
And let me know when youcompletely walk free.
When you have happiness, 100% of the timewhere there's no more bad days, every
day is a great day, because why not?
You have happiness, right?
And you're not attached to any outcome.
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No one thing or one person orone event is gonna change that.
Right.
And if you can get to thatplace, I'm telling you it's
pure freedom and pure bliss.
It's really awesome.
So I'm excited for you.
I hope that this episoderesonated with you.
I know that a lot of you probably can'tbelieve what I'm saying, um, where
you're like, yeah, I can't detach myself.
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Like there's no way, ah, if that'syou, then just keep leaning into it.
I encourage you to keep leaning into it.
If you wanna have a conversation aboutit, if there's some, some, you know,
you're certain situation or somethingthat certain is happening in your
life right now and you wanna have aconversation with it, go to agent rice
coaching.com and book a call with me.
I'm happy to talk with youabout it, and happy to help you
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get over this limiting belief.
I hope that this resonates with you.
Again, thank you so much for listening.
Hope you have a great day andlike always remember to be the
reason somebody smiles today.