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August 3, 2021 22 mins

In this episode, Sam LeBlond talks with the Presidential Historian and President/CEO of the Lyndon B. Johnson Foundation, Mark Updegrove. They discuss preserving Presidential legacies during a pandemic, the consequential father-son relationship of Bush 41 and Bush 43 (and why it is so historically significant), the importance of compromise, and valuable advice from Barbara Pierce Bush.

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