GOF, Chapter 4 Revisit: Panic! At the Dursleys

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Speaker 1 (00:16):
This is episode four hundred and seventy seven of Alohi
Mora for November eight, twenty and twenty five. Wow, Welcome

(00:38):
to another episode of Alohi Mora, the fandom's original Harry
Potter book Club.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
I'm Bianca Lynch.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
I'm Catherine Lewis, and I'm Sean Minie Willis, and I
am very excited to introduce our guest today, Taylor, who
is one of our avid Fantastic listeners. Welcome Taylor.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
Yay, Taylor, thank you.

Speaker 5 (00:57):
I'm so excited to be here.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Welcome.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
We're to have you. Do you want to tell everyone
a little bit about yourself, Give a little bit of
your Harry Potter background, like your story, your house, you know,
your favorite book like things like that, anything you want
to share. Sure.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
Yeah. So I'm a proud huffle Puff. Yeah. I've been
reading Harry Potter, listening to podcasts, everything for years. I
my mom actually went into the bookstore one day and
my mom actually picked up the book and she was like,
you know, all the kids are reading this. I heard
that there was going to be a movie. You know,

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you should read this. And of course, like everyone who
wants to defy their parents said no. Uh oh no,
I actually don't remember how I got into reading it.
She must have tried again and must have been successful.
But my mother has been a very big supporter of
me being a fan of Harry Potter so for these years.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
So I'm very much Yeah, thanks mom, that's awesome.

Speaker 5 (01:59):
Yeah. My favorite book is Preserve Azkaban, and my favorite
movie is definitely How Is Part One?

Speaker 4 (02:08):
Oh? Very nice.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
We don't hear that very often, right, you know?

Speaker 5 (02:13):
Now, I know I'm like pretty much the only one
because I like keep listening for it listening. I'm like
that does no one else like this one? My favorite adaptation?

Speaker 2 (02:22):
I was gonna say.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
I think people say that it's the best or at
least one of the best adaptations for sure. Yeah, but no,
I love I do. Actually I love that one as well.
Not my favorite, but I do love it. I'll say
it's up there.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
I'm hufflepuff too.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Oh okay, so three hufflepuffs and.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
We are not evenly split today.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
I don't think I've ever been on an episode with
with three huffle puffs.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
So I mean, we could just all hug each other
and eat snacks.

Speaker 5 (02:57):
Actually, I bring snacks with me.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
I like that. Part of uppa Puff. I'm coming to
eat coffee.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Like you know what I'm saying. It's good. We all
love each other.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Hey, I have no snacks, even though I love food.
A typical griffind or running on caffeine in a dream.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
You know, hey, but you make it happen though, right,
I'm trying. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
So we are gathered today to discuss chapter four of
Goblet of Fire, which is back to the Burrow. The
first time we talked about this chapter was back on
episode forty one, and it was titled kind of Purply,
and that was way back in July of twenty thirteen
with hosts kat Rosie, Laura and Guess Alexandra. So if

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you haven't listened to that, definitely go back and listen
to that episode and then you can kind of compare
it to what we say today.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Do you guys ever listen to the previous episodes before
you record? I don't, but I'm just curious, Okay, I
know this. Sometimes like I guess we'll do it, I
don't do it because I feel like it's going to end.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Up like that.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
That's what I'm gonna talk about it.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
I end up just like exactly right, and I want
to have my own original thing. But now I'm kind
of thinking maybe in the future I'll start listening to
it afterward, because I am I do have some curiosities
around if people are picking up on if people picked
up all the same things, like more than a decade ago, Yeah,
we are breaking up on today.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Well. The funny thing about that is I'm like, I
started over from the beginning. So I've been listening to
from episode one and I'm just getting into the Goblet
of Fire chapters. I skipped this one, but last week
I was listening to one on a chapter that we
had just done, and a lot of the same conclusions
were drawn, but then a lot of it was different too.
It was really cool, nice, Okay, that's neat. It's fun

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to do.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
But never before, well, I would think like after we
record this, if we go and look at chapter or
at episode forty one, it would be like, oh what
did I freaking think of that? Oh my gosh, I
could have brought it up or we could have disgust
it here. So it's kind of like a I know,
maybe good, maybe bad, and.

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We thank you.

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Speaker 6 (05:51):
Chapter revisit.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
Back to the Burrow. Mister Weasley arrives at the Dursley's
house by using the flu network, finds him self trapped
behind the boarded up fireplace and blasts it open, causing
a chaos in the living room. The Dursleys are horrified
by the magical intrusion, as anyone would be, while Harry

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is thrilled to see the Weasleys again. Fred and George
mischievously drop a piece of candy tongue tongue toffee, which
Dudley eats, making his tongue grow several feet long. Mister
Weasley panics and tries to fix the situation, which ends
up making the Dursleys even more terrified. Mister Weasley quickly
ushers Harry away before the Dursleys can explode further, and

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the chapter ends with Harry leaving Privet Drive behind, relieved
and excited to be returning to the Burrow for the
rest of the summer. Bless His Heart.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Is a super super short chapter in the audio books.
I was surprised it was like eighteen minutes or something.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
It's eleven pages in the book, because I was like, oh,
here's the end.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Wow. Yeah, Wow is short.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
It's so abrupt it ends abruptly, and you're like, oh,
that's it, okay. So we open the chapter with Harry
packing up all his things, getting ready to go. He's
putting away his books and his trunk and taking things
down off the wall, his little countdown, making sure his
food is cleaned up so mice don't take over his

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room while he's gone, and it just makes my heart
so happy to see him like excited. He's about to
go somewhere that's safe, and he's about to be around
people who actually like him and who talk to him,
pay attention to him. I just it makes me happy,
that's all. It just makes me happy.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
It's so nice.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Harry deserves that.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
I do think it's nice to see him like so
excited because it's like the one normal thing. I feel
like he's actually the normal one normal kid think that
he's getting to do. He's actually getting picked up to
go over to a friend's house. He's never like really
done that. He's been kidnapped to a friend's house, but
never like everyone knows where he's going. He gets the

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f up.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
You know.

Speaker 5 (08:20):
It's exciting to say true.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
Yeah, that's so sweet.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
I never really thought about it from that perspective, like
in terms of it's like one of It's just it's
such a normal thing to be excited about as a
kid going to your friend, even if it's just for
like one night.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
You're like a sleepover.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, yeah, feeling you're looking at that, you're literally looking
at the.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Clock like, oh my god, why it's time moving so quickly?

Speaker 5 (08:44):
Coming yeah, and then the excitement you feel that you're
like you're already packed up, You're ready to go, and
why can't they just get you already?

Speaker 3 (08:52):
It seems like time slows down when you're excited to
go somewhere.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
Yeah, And I also did note that, like what he's
packed up, what he listed as his most prized possessions,
he notes the ties that they have to people that
he does consider family. That you know, the cloak is
from his father, he didn't doesn't mention that he got
the cloak from Dumbledore. He doesn't consider Dumble. It's the
cloak from his father, the brewstick from his godfather. Serious,

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and then the map is from the Weasleys, from friend George.
So the fact that he all his prize physicians have
family ties, I'm like, oh here, yeah, I mean also
notes that he did take his food as.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
Well, which is that like a trauma response maybe just in.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Case, you know, I mean, he knows he's not going
to starve in the.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Borough, right right. But then at the same time, he
didn't throw it away, he didn't take it downstairs. He
took it.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Wait what did he take?

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Also, it was like it was like food for like
his birthday.

Speaker 5 (09:58):
I think it was because Lea's on a diet right
and I only write the chapter. I didn't skin the
before chapters. But you know, when and you know, this
was the nineties, diet was like, you know, don't eat anything,
and Harry was like, we're going to I am going
to starve, and so I think it's literally like any food,

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but I think it's like a bunch of cake, which
I assume might be tea cake, so not like sugar cake,
but like it's food that they gave him so that
he could actually eat.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Things well, oh, like his friends. When his friends came
to the rescue.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
For it, Harry watched her crawl out of sight and
pulled out a large chunk of birthday cake. Sat on
the floor, eating it, savoring the happiness that was flooding
through him. He had cake, and Dudley had nothing but
grape fruit. It was a bright summer.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Okay. So yeah, so it's the food that he got
from miss friends.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah, okay, so that makes sense because otherwise, you know,
it would go to waste because it's not like he can,
you know, just leave it in there.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
For the It makes more sense now to me, especially
if it's cake from my friends. Yeah, you're gonna take
it with you. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Imagine though, if he had left it and then they
had gotten mice, Like imagine Petunia's reaction to mice all
over her house.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
But like, how great of revenge would that be? I mean,
it would be mean, and Harry's not necessarily like that
all the time, but it would be fantastic.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Like mice aren't funny at all, but I mean it
would be funny house like to them. Not in my house,
it's not funny, and it would be funny.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
That's what you get.

Speaker 5 (11:31):
Yeah, But I also kind of wondered if he also
took the food, because I mean, I'm no expert on
like orphans or foster children, but a lot of TV
shows I've watched they mentioned that, like, you know, if
you don't have a home, that's that's the one thing
that they are. They like they hoard food, and they
like make sure to take.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
That with them.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
That just happens. I just see that in fictional TV shows.
I don't know if that's true.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
I mean, it makes sense, yeah, I mean I feel like,
when you think about it, I'm kind of surprised that
Harry hasn't always done that because I mean, we find
out I believe even I know in the second maybe
in the first book that you know, there are times
where they literally don't feed him enough. So to me, like,

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I'm kind of shocked that he hasn't always been hiding
food like just from like downstairs.

Speaker 7 (12:22):
True.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Well, like in the earlier books it talks about him
sneaking down like waiting for them to go to sleep
so he could sneak downstairs and get some food. Yeah, so,
but it just seemed it would be easier to just
have a stash in your room, it seems, and you
don't have to sneak down there.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Which we know Harry is really good at.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
He is Harry.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
Well. Then so after this we see him talking to
Uncle Vernon, and Uncle Vernon says that he hopes they've
dressed properly, and then Harry's like, oh crap, I don't
think I've ever seen them wear anything that would be
so in the movie. To me, I mean, they wear

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super bright, mismatched but muggle clothes. I mean he wears
like a like slacks, he wears a button down shirt.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Do you mean a goblet of fire of this?

Speaker 4 (13:18):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
We don't see this scene isn't in the movie.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
No, no, no, no, I mean, like, I don't mean
this particular scene. I'm just saying like movie isms. I
don't remember them wearing robes at all, right, they wear.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Like they stopped after like the second.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
Year they wear robes like, well we saw them.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Again in Deathly Hollows.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, I think it was just like first year, in
second year and then afterward they just went to like
regular Muggle clothes.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Yeah, I would say miss Weasley wears a dress. I
wouldn't say it was robes. Ever, he wears normal clothes
to me. I mean, of course they're bright and mismatched
or whatever, but like, and I know he wears a
robe over his clothes to work, but like, I mean,
they're gaudy, but they're normal kind of minus your cloak. Like, well,

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I is this a movieism or do we think this
is just straight up wrong.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Like that Vernon is worried about what they're gonna wear.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
Yes, and Harry too, He is has a sense of
foreboding because he's never seen them wear anything that they
would call normal.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
Probably because you know, like you said, the way that
they address is certainly not up to their Dursley standards.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
Well, yeah, not up to their stable clothes.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
He doesn't want to turn to be triggered. Well, the
other thing is it doesn't really take much now, Well,
and it's.

Speaker 5 (14:45):
Mister w Weeis is not the first wizard he's met,
because he Burnon figures out later that you know, he's
running with who we now know as Deedless. He realizes
that must have been a wizard because he's just dressed funny,
that's right, And he noticed a whole bunch of people
dressed funny.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
Hagrid too so.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
But so Vernon's expecting robes and weirdness. Harry doesn't know
what to expect, right, true, but he knows that it's
not going to be good enough.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Did they even tell us where they were wearing? I
don't even think we found out.

Speaker 5 (15:20):
I don't think it says, I think only mentions that
mister Weasley is wearing robes, but that I don't know
that it mentions what the boys are wearing.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
I didn't even notice it. I didn't even notice they
mentioned what mister Weasley was wearing. But at least, at
least we at least I mean, but that makes sense
because I mean that's pretty consistent in the book.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
They're always wearing, right do we think so as far
as the movie ism that we have decided that the
mogul clothes are not in the book, uh, in their
mix matched and stuff. I honestly thought that was a
style choice. I just thought he thought it looked good
because that's what muggles wear. But do we think it's

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because they just got everything secondhand and just piece milled
everything together or do you think it's a style choice.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
I think it's a style choice. I think they I
think he just doesn't. We end up finding this out
later in the in this exact book where we see
all these wizards that just are wearing these things that
would be outlandish in the in the muddle, So that's right. Yeah,
I think I think it's just a style choice. I
think they just don't.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
Know what they're wearing, like waiters or something like that.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
And I think someone was wearing a fish and hat.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yeah, my favorite, very good, very good.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
That is true. So it is it is a style choice,
but also one that they think is really on point. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
Yeah, I was kind of thinking that maybe mister Reesley
wore ropes because, like I was kind of wondering, why
would he wear ropes instead of trying to wear Muggle
things when he's going to meet a Muggle true family,
And so I kind of wonder if maybe he just
wore his robes just because that's what's considered formal in
the Wizarding World. And then but I also wondered maybe

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if he was self conscious that if he did mess
up wearing Muggle clothes, these you know, uh, the Muggle
family that he's like steering at in the face, they're
going to realize that he's not wearing the right clothes.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
Oh yeah, because he knows their mean.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
But does he know that they're mean? Yeah, I mean Harry,
but I think it hmmm.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
Especially when we see at the end he's a how
to how to hold hold on Harry, hold up? Come back?
You're not gonna say bath.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
I was thinking that this is actually when because you know,
I like parents, you know, for good reasons sometimes don't
always like take kids seriously. At this point, does like
how much does he go because you know, he probably
hears it from Ron, like because yeah, I just I
just wonder if he if he thought that if he
thought that Harry was exaggerating because to me, the way

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that and it could just be that mister Weasley was
just deciding to go in and be the bigger person,
which is really kind and bigger him and very mister
weasley ish. But to me, I felt like if he
actually knew what was going on, I just yeah, I don't.
I just I don't think he knew.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
Where is it where Miss Weasley says are they starving you?
Is it the first one?

Speaker 1 (18:28):
But I think she was just making that comment because
Harry was skinny, right, Yeah, Yeah, I don't think she
was like actually.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
Like actually thinking they starved him.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
Yeah, because that's like a normal I feel like that's
a normal thing when you know, growing up all my
all my family were like, oh you're no, you need more,
You're so skinny, and stuff like that. I feel like
that's a normal thing. People were like, are they starving you?

Speaker 4 (18:50):
You know you're skinny. It's a motherly thing. I guess. Yeah,
Missus Weasley's mother ring is coming out.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
And I'm I'm curious because it h I'm thinking about
like your question about like why he wore ropes, Like
why wouldn't he wear Muggle clothes because he was going
to a Muggles home.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
But to me, I kind of looked at it from
the perspective of like, I think it's.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Different if you're going to like pick up Harry in
public somewhere, but because you're just going to be.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Inside of the house.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Yeah, it's it's kind of like, do you need to
dress like a Muggle just to just to what?

Speaker 2 (19:26):
And again, I think we don't.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
We don't really have an answer to this. But I
think a lot of this is also tied to how
much does Arthur know or not know about the Dursleys.
If he did know that, would he have tried to
dress up and Muggle clothes so that maybe that would
ease the tension, Like would he be the bigger person
or would he be like, nah, I'm a wizard, so
I'm a dressed like a wizard and I don't care.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
You know who has a problem with it? Like, yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
But surely he has some sort of indication because he's
got three boys who've all you know, have stated that
you know, they saw his room. They had bars on
the window. But then this previous summer he would have
talked to coworkers about those who went to reverse the

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spell damage on a march.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
And you know the fact that the Dostas were like, no,
he cannot come back. You know, it's not exactly an
indication of a loving family that they're like, no, we
don't want to see him for us the summer.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I really have to have him
back there.

Speaker 5 (20:30):
That's fine.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
He's got the magic cooties.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
So it sounds like mister Wesley is just going in
being the bigger person.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Trying to be the adult.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
He definitely was at the end. That's the kind of
adult that I aspire to be. Excuse you, hey, sorry, mister.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
In my brain that that sounded a lot better.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
Yes, big, mister Big from Sex and the City, right, okay, ah, yeah,
mister Big, but we don't Yeah, he is something else.
He's not mister Weasley though. Uh and so when they
so y'all were talking about the Weasley kids that it's
explicitly says that the only time Harry had ever seen

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the Weasley's where anything he would consider normal was during
the holidays. He said that the Weasley children wear muggled
clothes during the holidays, but like the only time we
ever know of them going outside of the Wizarding World
on holiday was their trip to Egypt, So why would

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they care to wear Muggle clothes during the holidays if
they're in the Wizarding World? Does that make sense to you, guys?

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Oh? I think like when we well this is probably
a movieism too, when we see them going home for
like Christmas and whatever, they're wearing Muggle clothes. But I
wonder if it has to do with since they go
outside and they actually they play outside like kids, should
they go outside and they attend to the garden and

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you know, with the gnomes and all of that. I
wonder if it's more convenient, more comfortable to wear Muggle
clothes for that kind of stuff. I mean, well, I
don't know, because they wear robes when they play quidditch.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
At school, but they also will y'all discuss that on
another episode? Do they wear nothing under their robes or
do they wear like jeans and a T shirt or whatever,
you know, like normal not necessarily Muggle clothes, just like
clothes for humans to go on your legs and your bodice,

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that's not a basically a dress a robe.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
But jeans are Muggle clothes.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
I know.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
I saw them saying not necessarily jeans like pen and
pants or you know the eighteen hundred since they're all
but yeah, pantaloons.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
No, it's just now, it's just it's just underwear. It's
just underwear. The robe to them is what jeans and
a top are to us. It's it's it's underwear and
it's robes.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
That's it. That's my vote.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Then they just go naked, like when we see the
scene with James and Snape and they turn them upside down,
you can see his skibbies. I believe they call them, right, So,
I think they're not wearing pants or anything under those robes.
I think it's just underwear.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
But then which.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Would make sense because that's their that's their clothing.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
Then we see other like flashbacks to where they're wearing
a school uniform, right am I mistaken? A yeah, the
uniform pants are we I think?

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Okay, I think we got to stay out of the
movies because they just they just don't. I think this
makes it work confusing because it's like in reality, they're.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
Just they're just wearing ropes.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
It's robes, like their uniforms in our famous Aloha Moorra whatever.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
It's it's just it's not cannon.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
So like, don't they wear uh ties?

Speaker 5 (24:09):
They do?

Speaker 4 (24:11):
I thought they did it at least so was their tie? Yeah,
so was their men in the book. And I ain't on
their robe?

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Wait, when do they mention ties in the book?

Speaker 5 (24:22):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (24:23):
Maybe I'm getting mixed up.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
I don't think it.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Because I don't think I've ever heard anyone mention a tie.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Like when Harry first his stuff, he just says he
needs robes and that's it, just robes. You know, he
might be.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
Because that's also how they indicate houses, isn't it right?
And the are all black? Robes are on the robes
is a movieism? They they're all black in their books.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Anyway. To answer your question, Catherine, I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
To answer your question, I don't have an answer. I
don't really don't.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
Why have theories by I don't really know why.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah, listeners, let us know what you think.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Right.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
Why why do you think they wear that during the
high I mean I.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Have to choose between jeans and a robe. I'm absolutely
choosing the word.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
I know I am too. Oh yeah, they cut me
off because you because you little girl. They cut me
off in the middle when I sit down. Oh no,
they cut me right in the middle. I can't wait
to get my jeans off at the end of the day.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Are you one at those people that sits around your
house in jeans, Taylor.

Speaker 5 (25:27):
When it's cold sometimes. But I've I've definitely started to
wearing I'm wearing sweatpants right now.

Speaker 4 (25:35):
Okay, that's better. Okay, that's a little a little more
on the comforting side.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
I do have a I do have a friend.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
She lives in New York, and she is she's very uncomfortable,
like not being fully dressed in her house, and I'm
just like, girl, what she's She's like, She's like, because
if I need to like run out of the house, like,
it's just nice to like already be dressed. And I
was like, well, first of all, I don't really ever
need to run out of the house.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Let me just start there. I'm out of the house
for anything.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
And if I do, I'm like, I can take that
additional three minutes so like to put something on. But
I'm like, she is so comfortable and like jeans, shirt
like and anything that you would wear like, and I'm
just like, I love that for you, but it's.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
A no for me.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Hard pass. The most clothes I'm putting on is a
sweatshirt over my nightgown and the shoes, or get it,
like a snuggie just because now I live in Michigan,
so I think I'm gonna have to have a snuggie.
But that covers everything, So you could run out of
a house and a snuggie.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
I don't recommend it, but it comes everything. I feel
like I have since I started, like a few years ago,
I started actually wearing lounge wear, and I feel like
the loungewear movement has been a game changer for me,
and it's also the whole movement and also the whole

(27:01):
movement of wear, Like workout clothes are just regular clothes now.
Like here I'm in like I'm in Colombia, and I
remember like the first two weeks that I was here,
and I was like, I always know when it's time
to do laundry because I have no more workout clothes.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
I'm like that's saying. I'm like, I'm like one second,
I'm like, oh I got more body suits? Oh I
have no more.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Let's just like pull up like work exactly. I'm like, well,
I'm like, all right, it's time to do laundry now.
So yeah, shout out to this new movement of you know,
women who are just like we are not We're not
doing this anymore. We are we are choosing comfort. We
are choosing comfort. And shout out to the brands that
have made comfort cute as well.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
We appreciate you're.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Not going to do life strap down, strapped down.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
I don't know anymore.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
By the way, listen they relate.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
Yeah, I gotta straps girl, It's all.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Yeah, a liar.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
I'm like, nah, all right, I have a lesson.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
If I ever need anything lifted up, he just goes
throw it behind me and it's lifted Thank you Jesus. Hey,
I don't need wires anymore. But yes, so fancy nice
putting things together. Uncle Vernon looking down on his nose.
Whatever the things we don't wear anymore. Uncle Vernon is

(28:24):
currently wearing his best suit. And I know it's totally
stupid question to ask, but leave it to me. What
color do we think Uncle Vernon's best suit.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Is definitely black?

Speaker 5 (28:40):
Black.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
He doesn't have the personality for anything.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
Else not manavy blue.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Okay, yeah, I'm sorry, black gray or navy. That's as
far a very.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
Dark navy blue that can be mistaken as black.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:56):
Well I always picture them as like, you know, the
fifties house, you know, especially because and so I feel
like that's the image that the author is trying to portray.
And so, you know, in what would be considered old
fashioned when these books were written, it would just be
a darker suit as the more formal suit.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
Look at you bringing out logic.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
And we all know that Vernon wants to appear to
be classy, so and better than everyone.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
Yeah else, Oh you're just saying better than Yes.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
He's better than just better than everyone, better than everything,
he's better.

Speaker 5 (29:35):
Better than period.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
Yes, Yes, I'm sorry. I was trying to finish your
sentence that was already finished.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Which is really funny because it's because I just love
this irony of you look down on the Wizarding World
and you think they're so stupid and they don't know
anything about common sense, but yet you want to impress them.
And sometimes I just get so frustrated at how like
all these archy remarks that I just want to put
into Harry's brain to give to the Dursles. I'm like,

(30:04):
you should have said this, you should have brought this up, like,
I mean, but it's fine, okay. I guess he did
okay on his own, but yeah, I just I'm like, yeah, vernon, there,
they're so beneath you that you need to dress up
for them.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
You caught that. I did not catch that. Jobs brilliant, brilliant.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
That's because I am petty, so I catch a lot
of things.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
We like, Betsy, Betty, I like it very much. Chow, Yeah, it's.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
So yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
And then we see you know, him being a turd.
And then we see Dudley emerge with his hands clamped
on his bottom slash his butt, and it is continually
clamped harder and harder the entire time we see this,
and as we know, it is because he had an
episode from Hagrid. The last time he encountered a wizard,

(30:56):
he left with a pigtail. So how do we think?
And apparently Shamani is brilliant and knows this. I am not,
because I haven't read the book since they first came out.
So how do we think that they explained the curly
pigtail to a Muggle doctor who very much would see

(31:16):
that and know that's a freaking pigtail, especially based on
what we saw in the movie that is a freaking pigtail?
And how much do you think they paid since it
was a private hospital to keep this hush hush for
their discretion.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
They definitely paid some money, Like I never definitely paid,
definitely paid.

Speaker 5 (31:37):
They paid out the wazoo.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
I'm trying to think about how much they would pay
at a regular hospital for that, Like I don't even know,
Like what would that even couse to have an appendage?

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Kid like, and like I have.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
No I literally like I feel like, are we talking
like five K? Are we talking like ten K? Like
I with or without insurance? I don't know. I have
no idea. But also, why did they even go to
a private hospital? Is because of a specialist? Okay, So
that okay, so that's what I was thinking. But even
my hush hush to who like.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Who, like anybody and everybody, they can't go to a
local doctor because.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Because the local doctor is going to tell who or
what they need to tell them.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Yeah, but okay, But my whole.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Thing is, it doesn't matter if you go to a
private or a public They're all muggles, Like it's like,
who are you going to go? It doesn't matter who
you go to you're still getting a tail.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Removed their parent, even if you even if you.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Go into a Yeah, yeah, I agree. I one hundred
percent agree about the paranoia. I guess, like in my head,
I'm just like, even if you went to like a
public hospital, it's not like you get examined in a
room in front of everyone and then the doctor and
then the doctor goes out, and it's like that.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
So in my head, I'm like, but you.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
Would have had like one see them in the waiting room,
them seeing a friend that they knew, and they were like, oh,
you guys look healthy. What are you guys here for?
And then Vernon's like, true, nothing, you know, like because
they looked healthy all outside.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
That's a really good point. I didn't even think about
them running into someone else.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
Nothing.

Speaker 5 (33:21):
I think the private hospital is like that. They're paying
for the confidentiality.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
Part of it.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Yeah, sometimes the walls are thin.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
So but you have the actual answer. Oh yes, I
didn't know until today.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
The answer to the question. So they apparently told them
that it was a wart they had gotten out of control,
which to me, I mean it was clearly a pig's tail,
and I feel like that's I don't know. I mean,
I've never had an experience with warts, so I don't

(33:57):
know what they do.

Speaker 5 (34:00):
For wark were to get out of control, it wouldn't curl.
And I don't remember this description of a book, but
it was definitely curly, because that's what you think of
that pigstail being curly. And I mean I had a
wart once, but it just one day just fell off,
but it.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
Just it's a round bump on whatever or whatever.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
So I think that this is I think that this
also relates to what we learn and what we learned
from Arthur. And I don't remember which book judged me,
but whatever he was talking about, how you know, muggles
will do anything too, because my whole point is, even
if we didn't believe it was a ward, he's not
going to be like, oh, this was put here by

(34:44):
a wizard. So it's like whether they believe the word
story or not. Like they can go do their own research,
they can go try to find precedent, but at the
end of the day, they're not going to guess that
it was magic. So even if they didn't believe it,
what were they going to do. They've probably kept it. Actually,
it's probably.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
In a jar just study this.

Speaker 7 (35:04):
This is.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
They show it around, They show it around. Guess what
I removed today.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
They went to the private hospital because most likely anyone
that they knew or anyone around them probably couldn't afford
a private hospital. That was what my train of thought.
So they wouldn't have probably most likely never see anybody
that they knew. They're at a private hospital because they
wouldn't typically go there because they couldn't afford it. That
was my train of thought. Sorry about that, but yes,

(35:32):
ugh award. Also I watched Doctor pimple Popper a lot.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Oh gosh.

Speaker 4 (35:37):
I ain't never seen a ward or any kind of
anything that looked like that. It usually just gets bigger,
like circumference wise or dome wise or both. Uh not yet,
not that big. Sorry anyway, because you have like lapomas
and stuff, and I've seen people with it, that was

(35:58):
my book. I've seen people with it on their neck
and you know, on their heads and stuff. But nothing curls,
nothing curls. It's made up. It's a lie.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
That was the best they had, I guess.

Speaker 4 (36:10):
Yeah, And why would you want to tell them that
your son has a warp grown out of his butt crack?

Speaker 5 (36:16):
Maybe That's how I got control.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Because the alternative is to tell them that a wizard
put a pig sail there.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
I mean, it's a lesser.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
Room to what are those sebaceous cysts? Feel heard about
those that happens at your butt crack and sometimes it's
for people who have sitting down jobs, and it's one
of the most painful things.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
I think.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
That's how you say it, sabacious cysts. They have to
like clean them out and they have to leave it
open so that it can.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
More.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
This is more than my stomach and handle. Sorry, can't
like I'm weak, y'all.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
I'm sorry. I'm the person who like can't eat while
watching like a horror movie.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
Well, just like Taylor said on here, do you think
he had pst PT from this, which is you know
the things that I'm talking about Taylor.

Speaker 5 (37:04):
Yeah, I mean, I mean the reason I asked is
because I definitely think he did, like the the way
that he just it does Dudley's reactions to the first
wizard he's met face to face since Hagrid like, He's definitely.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
Like he immediately grabbed gave me a.

Speaker 5 (37:22):
Pigtail, and I had to go to the hospital. I
don't want to go to the hospital.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Right, Oh gosh, So I agree with this, and then
I put this further down in the doc. But I'll
just I'll just ask it now because I was actually
thinking I was thinking the same thing, like, obviously there
is a lot of trauma from this.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
We can tell. We can tell by the way that
Dudley is acting. So why did he eat that candy?

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Like, if you are so afraid, if you don't want
anything to do with magic and wizards, and you know
that wasn't muggle candy, like you saw a drop.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
So if you were that scared, why did you eat
the candy?

Speaker 4 (38:01):
Because he's on a diet, because he's greedy, greedy.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
I guess that's the true answer. That is that that.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Is he can help himself. He's just the right.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
It's like the deprivation of the diet, like he didn't
even care.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
He was like, can he lost control of himself?

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Oh my god, because Dudley, Dudley has no portion control.

Speaker 4 (38:27):
Well, I don't have a portion control either, so I
can't sing.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Uh yeah, But you also didn't have a pigstail put
on your butt.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
So I mean and walking around the whole time they
were there holding my butt either clinching it tighter and
tighter as they were there, like, No, you're right, you're right,
You're right.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
That is that's hilarious. Wow, Okay, well that's I will
take that. So then my follow up question is why
can Dudley just go to a friend's house? Like, as
far as we know, that's a very normal I mean,
and I know the answer is plot, but like, as
far as we know, Dudley has friends who he can
you know, he can go and hang out with him.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
So I'm like, I just to me.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
It didn't make sense if you were that scared, why
even put yourself in the situation.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Like I felt like I.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Would have been like I don't want to be here,
you know when they get here, like I'm gonna go,
you know whatever.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
But yeah, I was just like, you didn't even have
to be there for this.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
And especially since Petunia is so like what they called
helicopter monks, She's so on him at every second, every
minute of every day. If she was like they hurt
my boy last time, I would be like, go to
the neighbor's house, go to your friend's house, because.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
They go in your room.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
Yeah, they're not gonna hurt my boy, you know, like yeah,
like we'll meet you out.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
Well, well, I guess the woman you outside wouldn't matter
because yeah, yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
But anything like any anything, you know, don't be in
the house like I I think if they had because
my son was eating cake, which granted it was not
his cake and it was not his to eat, but
they gave him a permanent pigtail because he was eating cake,
I would not let my child be there, and I
probably wouldn't if I was mister Dursley, I probably wouldn't

(40:18):
have let my wife be there. I would be like,
it's me and you, Harry. I don't know what they'll do.
They are crazy, which he thinks they're crazy. He thinks
they're all mad anyway, so I'd be like, you're not
going to be here period.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Do you think more for Petunia because she we of
course find out later how much more she actually knows
about the magical world. Do you think there's like part
of Petunia that still has that feeling of not exactly jealousy,
but like something close to it, like yes, like you
want to be around them, kind of like how we
talk about how like Draco is obsessed with Harry, and you,

(40:54):
like you get to a point where you're like, Okay,
do you like him? Because honestly, this is yes, Like
this obsession is like you could literally just ignore him.
It's almost like when Harry's around, even though he can't
stand him, he can't help but talk to him.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Like, do you think that there's something in Petunia?

Speaker 1 (41:10):
And that's still like she still wants access to the
magical world even though.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
She hates it. I'm air quoted for those of you
are not watching the video.

Speaker 5 (41:22):
I think it's almost yes, to answer your question, yes,
but I almost think it may have gotten worse because
here's her sister's son who has magic, and here's her
son that doesn't and her so she she fully understands
that there could have been a chance that Dudley had
magic too, but he doesn't.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Oh I didn't even think about that.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
Wow. Yeah, I've never even thought about that either.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Oh Dudley with magic Jesus hopeless.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Think she does. Like she hate watches them from Afar,
hate songs for the world.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
I do agree, hundred percent agree, because there's a part
that I'll say later where she's watching the flu frame
flu flames, and she like shudders, and I think that
hate watching is like you're saying, like she knows exactly
what that.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Is, and right, and I've been watching The Alchemist.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
I'm sorry, but I do one hundred percent I do
think she hate watches because she shuddered, but it's also
like she couldn't not watch it.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Yeah, there's like a longing buried somewhere could look completely
different than it does.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
Yes, And I don't think she lets herself think that
often because she's focused on that hate side of it
more than she is the longing side. So I don't
think she lets herself self think that often.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Mm hmm, I agree.

Speaker 4 (43:00):
But yeah. So then they're they're eating lunch and everything's
quiet and it's awkward, and things are getting more awkward
because it's getting closer to time for them to arrive,
and Uncle Vernon asks how they're going to arrive, and
Harry was like, any think about it? And then he
remembers that the car is now in the forbidden forest.

(43:24):
How do you think that mister Weasley reacted to hearing
that his car is permanently wild and it's not coming back.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
I don't think mister Weasley has any kind of like
emotional attachment like we would with our cars that we
drive like.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Every day, But I do.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
I think the biggest thing there is he was so
excited to find out that it actually flew. So, if anything,
I think that he was more so upset that like
he didn't get to try it himself, or.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
That like he didn't get to witness it. But I
don't think he ever felt like any because it was
never his car, right, Like he don't.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
I don't know how. I don't know how he got
that car. Wait a minute, how did he get that car? Well,
wait a minute, was that his car?

Speaker 5 (44:07):
It was his car, but i't know that we know
how he got got it.

Speaker 4 (44:12):
He's the one that worked on it to make it fly.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
Right.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
But when when you say it was his car, you
mean we think he bought that car, is what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
I feel like he bought it. I read somewhere that
he bought it, But I don't know. I might, but
I feel like I thought it was.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Like confiscated by the ministry. That's what I thought. I
didn't know he bought it.

Speaker 5 (44:32):
That's probably I mean, you're probably right, it's probably confiscated
for the and he somehow talked because you know, and
we see it mentioned here. You know, he has lots
of friends within the ministry. They will do him favors.
You know, it's possible that he like talked someone into saying, well,
maybe instead of destroying it or taking the charms off

(44:53):
of it, I could take it off.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
We might could use it for the ministry. Yeah, mystery.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
And so with the assumption that this car was confiscated,
I don't think I think that he's just kind of like, dang.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
I wish I could have saw.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
It, like, yeah, if I'm wrong, and if and if
that was a family car, then I mean I'd be
pissed so mad.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
I mean even if he had just gotten it and
he had spent money on it, I'd be mad.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Yeah, But I just don't think they would because because
they literally don't need cars, and because we know that
they're really poor and cars are not cheap.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
I just yeah, well, and Missus.

Speaker 5 (45:34):
Weasley doesn't like the car either, true.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
Missus Weasley's probably like she's like, you can't have it,
that's what.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
You're just like, Oh, your car's gone too bad?

Speaker 4 (45:47):
Oh no, when wait, yeah, here's.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
My violin anyway.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
Yeah, yeah, she's so mean, but like for real, she
can't she is, I don't know. She reminds me of
my mom, but anyway, but she she would never be late.
But they are late. Why everything is instantaneous, right, the
to disaperate instantaneous, to go through the flu network instantaneous,

(46:19):
to take a port key almost instantaneous. Why are they late?
And they're not just five minutes late, they're what thirty
forty five minutes late?

Speaker 5 (46:29):
Why they're like, did I write it down? They're like
fifteen to twenty Yeah, they're fifteen to twenty minutes late.
Is because fifteen minutes definitely passes. And that's the last
time Harry notices, like how long it's been until they arrive.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
So my hmmm.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Well, the first thing I want to say is that
I feel like the closer I am to a place,
the more likely I am to be late. Let me
put that out there. I used to like a six
am boot camp class at this gym, and I was
five minutes from the gym, and I was consistently five
minutes late to that class consistently, and like I remember,
the instructor of her name was.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Ashley, and she was like, don't you live like r.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
So me personally, for whatever reason, the easier it is
for me to get to a place the later I am.
And I think that it's because psychologically, I tell myself, well,
I don't, I don't need to. I tell myself that, like, oh,
I got time basically right, because I'm like whatever, it's
just it's a five minute walk or you know what,
because I walk most places here, So I feel like

(47:40):
that happened. The other thing I wondered is what if
in wizarding culture, maybe it's not that big of a
deal to be fifteen minutes late. Because I'm gonna be
honest with you. Whenever I was like fifteen minutes, I
was like for me, I'm like, that's not even late.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Like I was here, you are coct.

Speaker 4 (48:06):
Ten past five, then a quarter past five?

Speaker 3 (48:09):
Correct.

Speaker 4 (48:10):
I don't know why I thought it was longer than that, but.

Speaker 5 (48:12):
It probably seems longer just because to him it's like,
why are they here? I want to get out of
this place every minute?

Speaker 4 (48:19):
Why aren't you here? And of course you see then
after that and Petunia and Uncle Vernon are being rude
about it, like how dare they be late? They have
no punctuality, Like, yeah, so I mean they're being they're
being rude about it, which I'm sure Harry's like in
his brain. Also, Bianca, do you have ADHD or add

(48:40):
I don't think so? Oh well, never mind, there I do.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
And I was going to say, not that I suspect
that I do.

Speaker 4 (48:48):
Right, I'm not either, per I do though, But we
have a thing called time blindness. Yes, yeah, that's what
I was going to say, where it just doesn't literally does.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
Not they come peach old time, or you get into
a task and you just forget that.

Speaker 4 (49:07):
You just have no idea that three hours has passed time. Absolutely, yeah, yes.
And my husband will be like, I see that you're
doing blah blah blah about how much time do you
think it'll take for you to finish? And I'll be
like maybe ten minutes and he goes, all right, i'll
see you in thirty minutes, like but for real, like
and he'll be like, i'll come back. I'll come back

(49:28):
and kind of prompt you, and like thirty minutes later
he'll come back and I'll be like, oh, has it
been ten minutes? Yeah, ten minutes is up, and he
was like, well it was forty five minutes ago. Are
you ready?

Speaker 3 (49:41):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (49:42):
So?

Speaker 4 (49:42):
And I'm like, ah, let me go change clothes. I'm sorry,
I'm coming.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
So yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
Total, it's a thing. It's a thing. And I definitely
think mister mister Weasley has uh ady d.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Yeah, I just I don't. I don't think that mister
Weasley felt like he was late.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
If I'm being honest, I don't like no, I mean,
I don't yeah very much at all in the Wizarding World.

Speaker 4 (50:03):
True, yeah, true.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
I mean it's not like they even have a real clock,
you know.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
They the hands don't tell.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Variation of a clock.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
So yeah, I think as far as the answer, it's like,
why were the Weasleys late?

Speaker 2 (50:18):
And my brain I'm like, were they late? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (50:22):
I was looking at the thing if it says like
I was looking at the note that they wrote, if
it said like, uh, like right at five o'clock or
five o'clock on the dot or whatever is they say, no,
send pigback, pigback, Pronto, will come and get you at
five o'clock on Sunday anyway, and then Harry says it's okay.
The locals say, I can come see you at five

(50:44):
o'clock tomorrow, so they do confirm it is supposed to
be five o'clock said twice. Yeah, but like you said,
they don't even have a real clock, So how do
they tell time in the Wizarding World?

Speaker 3 (50:57):
Do they have like a sundo?

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Like I think they have another clock somewhere.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
We just we just only hear about okay, watches, and
we know they have watches too, because we learn that
we know that there are watches as well. So I
just yeah, honestly, I just feel like it's not that
big of a deal, and it is such an interesting
thing to me because as someone who has experienced this

(51:22):
from like a cultural perspective, like I feel like in
the US, we are when it comes to anything like professional,
at least for the most part, we are pretty.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
We're pretty like punctual.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
And I remember here in my Airbnb there was someone
who's supposed to come look at the hot water and
they came like thirty minutes after the time, and I
was so pissed, like I was.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Like and but again like they just came in.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
They were like what thes like, there was there was
no like sorry for being late.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
In their mind, they're not late because in Colombian culture.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
It's very common for if you say this time, it's
like plus or minus.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
You know whatever.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
And then whenever I was in Asia, it was the opposite.
People would show up early and I would.

Speaker 4 (52:04):
Be I wasn't ready. I'm not ready enough. I don't
have you like I don't have my pants on.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
I'm at the.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
House, Catherine.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
You want to talk about time blin, this is like
time blindness. Like I remember we were in Bali and
like our apartment had.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
A little like plunge pool.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
So the masseuse was coming and I don't know, I
think it was like two pm or something. It's like
one point fifty. I'm still in the pool. Why Because
I am who I am, And because just like we said,
I'm like, well, all I got to do is go
upstairs and towel off.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
I'm just getting a massage.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
Lo and behold, you're not gonna be wearing clothes to
get the massage. So I just got to put a
towel on the answer the door.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Yeah, never expect me or Catherine to show up on
time to anything, obviously, Okay.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
So so literally this is what I'm thinking.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
So I imagine my surprise when it's like two minutes
later and there's a knock and I'm like opening the
door and I'm like, hi, I thought we said to
would clock and like I.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Was like, can you just And it's like a hotel room.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
So it's not even like I can invite them in.
So it's just that was honestly the first.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
Thing they came, stand outside the closed door.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
That's literally what I felt. Terrible.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
I'm trying to terrible.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
And when you got let me tell you how much
of a piece of shit I am. That massage was
so good that I got it again.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
I got it again three days later and the same
thing happened, the same thing. I know, I know, but
you know what, But my whole thing is why did
you show up early?

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Again? You know I wasn't ready the first day? Who
did this?

Speaker 8 (53:34):
Like?

Speaker 2 (53:34):
Why?

Speaker 4 (53:35):
Because I thought you'd be prepared the.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Same exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
So I just feel like culturally in the Wizarding World,
I can very much see like it's just not being
that big a deal to be like a few minutes
behind it.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Just in general, I mean, if their.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Lacks about safety the way that they are, I can't imagine.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
That there's sticklers for time.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
And if they are to something like if they're going
to a function or have to be somewhere, you know,
their travel is really like instantaneous, So it's not that
big of a deal if they're running behind. Right.

Speaker 8 (54:10):
Why is it that people are not punctual? Two reasons.
One is they don't realize how important it is. It
never occurs to them that when you are late for
an appointment, you are insulting the person who has agreed
to see you at that time. If you ask a
person what do you think about so and so who
is very punctual, they will say, I think this person
is more competent, more reliable, more dependable, more intelligent, more valuable,

(54:33):
and more likely to be promoted and given greater responsibilities
than the person who is late all the time. The
person who's late all the time is considered unreliable, sloppy, undisciplined,
a poor time manager, and not capable of greater responsibilities.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
And Taylor brought up some interesting something interesting about the distances.

Speaker 5 (54:59):
Yeah, I kind of wondered if it seems instantaneous, if I
wonder if there's like a proportional difference, because in a
previous episode someone looked up how far Surrey was from
London and they said it was about three hours. And
I don't know where Autery Saint Catchpole is, but I
kind of wondered if maybe that, you know, because the

(55:22):
only other time we see the flue network used is
when they go from the borough to uh herery accidentally
goes to Noctron Alley. But it must have been, but
the others must not have been close behind, since they
went directly to Diagon Alley, and so I wonder if
they might be a little bit closer to London than
the Dursleys are, and then maybe that's why the travel
by flu takes so long to get to the Dursleys.

(55:45):
Instead of three hours, it's twenty minutes.

Speaker 4 (55:48):
But I feel like you're at the burrow. You throw
the powder into your fireplace, you walk into your fireplace
and walk out of their fireplace. That's what I think
you have to ask, you know what I mean, Like
your first step and then your second.

Speaker 5 (56:04):
Step is that actually travel though?

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Yeah, yeah, there's a spin move that happens.

Speaker 4 (56:11):
Oh right, flushing down the toilet like at the for
the Ministry, it's so.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Hard for our heads.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
For me, so I wonder how long it actually takes them.

Speaker 4 (56:25):
And then they don't need to like breathe in in
the fire ash or whatever. So it can't be that
long if they're like not purposefully inhaling, because in that
why he gets because he breathes in to take the
deep breath to say where he wants to go, and
then he kind of chokes or whatever on the ash
that gets.

Speaker 5 (56:47):
Its directed.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
So wouldn't you like not necessarily want to breathe in
that while you're in it? So it can't take that
long if you're not purposefully.

Speaker 5 (56:59):
Like, so do you think you do you think they
can breathe will while in transit?

Speaker 4 (57:05):
Yeah, I mean I'm sure they have to because.

Speaker 5 (57:08):
If they can't breathe and then it has to take
a like a minute or.

Speaker 4 (57:14):
Less, very short amount of time, yeah, because otherwise you suffocate.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
And maybe it's like thirty seconds or so. Maybe it
just feels like a long time because you're seeing everything
spinning by right, kind of like.

Speaker 5 (57:26):
That awful ride where you're like, it's I need to
be off of this right now, but you have no
choice but to stay on spinning teacups.

Speaker 4 (57:35):
Yeah, you can't get off. They're not gonna stop the ride.

Speaker 5 (57:38):
But I think more likely The reason that it might
take longer is because maybe he waited too late to
get them connected to the FLU network. And maybe it's
just bureaucacy at work, because like they had to actually
get set up.

Speaker 4 (57:52):
Look at you, Taylor.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
You mean like he set it up at the last minute.

Speaker 5 (57:57):
Yeah, Like they probably went to the ministry and the like, oh,
we need to go get them connection to the FLU network.
Oh you can't do that to get network?

Speaker 4 (58:10):
Well, did I get that?

Speaker 5 (58:11):
You got to go to this department? No, you need
to three eight seven?

Speaker 2 (58:15):
Wait a minute, has a plug? Though, that is true,
he said.

Speaker 4 (58:20):
Much, but maybe he waited until the last minute to
use that plug, which that plug had to go somewhere
to do something to fill out four thirty a B
and then yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Wow, we just put all those together.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
Look at you?

Speaker 4 (58:37):
Heck yeah, Taylor. But but that still does not to me. Okay,
so moving forward, that still does not explain why he
didn't tell how he was coming other than the fact
that maybe he didn't know how he was coming up until,
like you said, five minutes before when he decided to.
But then he had to have known that. But because

(58:59):
if he waited until five is before, how else was
he gonna get there. He wasn't gonna fly, and he
wasn't gonna disaperate because I isn't. Isn't Privet Drive protected
in some kind of way with a concealment charm or
something like that to where people can't I know it's
not like Hogwarts and that it's super protected, but I

(59:20):
feel like it's protected in some kind of way to
wear up until this point, the death theaters and stuff
didn't know where he was or like couldn't access him
or something like that.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
But but I think it's I think there's a difference
in like you're not physically capable of finding this house
versus you know the address, you know where the house is,
you can go there. But that does make me wonder
Catherine could he have operated, because wouldn't that have almost
been easier? I mean, Fred, George and Ron didn't really
need to, Like I get it, and I get as

(59:53):
like the I mean Fred and George's spent well they
wanted to torment Dudley, so I guess that was why
they came. But yeah, I mean get it, like Ron,
like all I want to go, you know, I want
to be there.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
I'm ready to see my best friend.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
But in reality, would it have been easier if he
just can you operate with a bunch of stuff?

Speaker 5 (01:00:11):
Well, so I kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Maybe that's why.

Speaker 5 (01:00:15):
But one we do know that it's considered rude. It's
rude to operate into someone else's home uninvited.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Girl. They don't care about me or rude.

Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
Clearly they do not hear.

Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
He is a little messed up here.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Oh my gosh, they paolitely.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Blew up their fire.

Speaker 4 (01:00:40):
He didn't tell him how.

Speaker 5 (01:00:42):
It's funny the chapter are in the book. It just
looks like he's just kind of kicking his way out.
It doesn't make it look like he's blasting his way out.
So it kind of surprises you when you read it
the first time. We're like, oh, there's an explosion.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
Yeah, but oh my god, what is that?

Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
It's mister Wesley.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Why is he wearing? Why? What is all that green stuff?
Is that his rod?

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
It's his clothes a puppet.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
He looks like.

Speaker 5 (01:01:11):
It's supposed to be smoke on the what's to me
the right side, the opposite side from where all the
words are.

Speaker 4 (01:01:17):
It's where he's blasted.

Speaker 5 (01:01:19):
So I think it's like, oh, he's getting blasted this way,
not this way. Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
Ah, so he's like flying.

Speaker 5 (01:01:26):
Right, he's flying out head first.

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
Sorry that was but you were saying it didn't look
like it. Also, the page before it has the electric
heater exploding out, so they they've made it to where
it looks like the illustrated version.

Speaker 5 (01:01:49):
Yeah, the chapter, because I looked at it. It's just
a bunch of legs coming out of the fireplace.

Speaker 8 (01:01:57):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (01:01:58):
Oh I do that, but it's not as good as
your book on the screen.

Speaker 4 (01:02:06):
Yeah, I mean, but you would think with his muggle
obsession with everything and the catastrophe he's already had with
the flying car, like, he would take that information.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
Yeh.

Speaker 4 (01:02:18):
That's something that a wizard would need to know before
they would relay relay that information to a muggle house
because like how you're coming to a muggle since he
is so my my number one thing for mister Weasley
is that he is obsessed with Muggles. So with all

(01:02:41):
that in the back of your head, you would think
he would know that the only way Muggles can travel
is a car, and that they wouldn't know about flu network,
they wouldn't know about operating, they wouldn't know about the
well he knows about the flying car, but like they
wouldn't know about a broom, or they wouldn't know about

(01:03:03):
all the other ways that you can travel. Wouldn't that
be something that you would prepare.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
I just I don't think they're the same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
I think that him being obsessed with them is not
I don't I don't necessarily think it's related to him
considering I should let them know how I'm arriving. I
just don't think he thought about it, to be honest, Like,
and if he did, I think that it was one
of those things where at the last minute you thought
about it, but it was too late, like kind of like, well,

(01:03:33):
we don't do this because we have like a I know,
we have like a doc for we have like a
dog for like all of our guests. But I know
like ones like I went on a podcast and there
was there was like no, it wasn't a podcast. I
was going live with someone and then like at the
last minute he's like, oh, yeah, I need you to
send me your stream key, and I was like and
I like me as someone who's not techy, like I

(01:03:53):
got I almost.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Had a panic attack.

Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
I don't know what that is.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
But for him, he my point exactly. So for him,
because he's a streamer, like, he did this all the time,
and so for him it wasn't a big deal. So
I think it's just one of those things where it's
just it's his norm to travel. Like he's not thinking
about it. And like I said, about the time he
thought about it, he was like, was the day of
what is he gonna do? He's not gonna be a but.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
He doesn't have time to send an owl, So now
he just gotta right, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:04:20):
He show up and do what he did, and he
well he didn't he.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Didn't have to do it that way.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
But and he even says it didn't occur to him
that they wouldn't be able to get through. So I
think he was thinking that he could just like connect
it to the Flue network travel through. They would pop in,
get Harry, and pop out. Like in his head it
was going to be this simple process.

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
But then that's simple.

Speaker 5 (01:04:45):
What did it matter that he was twenty minutes late.

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
I didn't think about it either. Why do y'all think
they boarded up the chimney because of the letters? The letters?

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
But that was book one. Get over it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:00):
That's why I think it's just dawned on me. They
boarded it up because of the letters and put a
freaking electric.

Speaker 5 (01:05:07):
Because I wondered why they boarded it up too, because here,
if we have an electric fireplace.

Speaker 4 (01:05:11):
My brain works sometimes.

Speaker 5 (01:05:13):
Put campfire Susie in there, and we don't bother boarding
it up.

Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
Campfire Susie. Yeah, but the letters, that's what I love it.
But the letters could still come through, or an owl
could come through, or what else if it wasn't boarded up.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
But at this but at this point in time, he
knows that it doesn't matter what he does.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
If the letter was to get the hart to get
to Harry.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
So for me to still have done that, and it's
X amount of years later like it, And at this point,
at this point, the cat's out of the bag. Harry knows,
oh right, right, yeah, but you know we're talking about
they're going to pull.

Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
The bars off the windows and letters anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
So like the thetter he gets from the Ministry doors
underage magic, it still gets into the house. So I mean,
you might as well just live your life and leave
your fireplace alone.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
But now he has an electric fireplace. And speaking of electricity.

Speaker 4 (01:06:12):
I mean, if they're if he is so back to
mister Weasley being obsessed with muggles, If he is so
obsessed with them, how does he not know how to
pronounce electricity? Electricity? Doesn't he say echo eclectic? Mister Weasley's
voice excitedly eclectic you say with a plug? Because he

(01:06:33):
has to know eclectic is a real word?

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
Does he?

Speaker 4 (01:06:37):
So the we know eclectic is a word, but we're electricity, right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
But the thing is he's not around mom. There's no one.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
The exact answer to this question is because there's no
one to correct him. That's why it's just like learning
another language. You could be saying the same thing over
and over your entire life and you'll never know that
you said it wrong, And so someone who speaks that
native language corrects you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
Trust me, I know from.

Speaker 4 (01:07:01):
Experience or like reading a book with Hermione, Yeah, I
get that. I get that. Okay, shut out to certain dale.

Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
Who is the reason I can pronounce many things? Is
this Harry Potter series?

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:07:15):
For those those of you who.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Just read the books to the audio, I'm like, this podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
Has blown my mind, like going back and looking at
how things are spelled, like creature blew my mind. I
was like, what so, Yeah, he's had nobody to correct him.
That's why he's been getting it wrong this full time.

Speaker 4 (01:07:36):
You're absolutely right, that is true even reading it. I
mean I could see how you could flip that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
Yeah, them stuck in the fireplace has has got to
be like this is one of the scenes that I
would have loved to have seen in the movie, just
for the chaos of them stuck inside the fireplace, and
then here comes wrong. Has something gone wrong? Twins are
like no Ron, and that's exactly where we want to be, Like, hey,

(01:08:05):
come on, Ron, come on.

Speaker 6 (01:08:07):
Hot express imagine like that's gonna be like if I
thank goodness none of them have claustrophobia because, like, you know, true,
my family's fireplace was never like that big.

Speaker 5 (01:08:21):
And then imagine a grown man. And then Fred and
George in the book, I think are supposed to be
a stockier body type. So then you've got two stocky
teenagers and then here comes Ron, who is supposed to
be really tall and a growing teenage boy. Like they've
got to be up like this, four almost one grown man,

(01:08:43):
three almost grown men, like packed in like sardines.

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
Oh, imagine if if they couldn't stand in it. Imagine
if they're all squatting down, because I mean any normal
I mean our ours is is gas. It's a gas,
which I guess you could have logs, but I mean
it's maybe two two feet by two feet and you've

(01:09:10):
got four men standing in a two feet by two fair.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
How is that possible?

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:09:16):
But like they said, his yeah is like I could
say that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
It is just like how would you go back?

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
Yet? Would you go back?

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Oh that's a good point, Like you're literally okay, how
do you even how do you even have to pull
his wand out?

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
And yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
Wow, maybe he already had in his hand or something.

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
Maybe.

Speaker 4 (01:09:48):
Yeah, like if you threw it in there, if you
threw float flue power to powder to go back, wouldn't
it just take everybody? Because they were right, like one
person kind of like it wouldn't make sense.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01):
Maybe he can get to the flu powder.

Speaker 4 (01:10:02):
True, I mean can't hardly move. I'm sure you can't
move it all. But they're they're stuck. They're beating on
the wall and Harry hears them and he's talking to
him or whatever, and he's like they plugged it up
and you can't get over there, And he's like, well,
I I'll fix this and then just explodes it.

Speaker 5 (01:10:24):
This is a personally like a reasonable solution.

Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
How Yeah, Like it's perfectly reasonable. With three of your
kids behind you, We'll just blast through the wall. Like,
how is that the best idea here?

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
Well? My question was what were the where were the
other options?

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
Like do we do? We even have better alternatives? Like
what could have been done? Different?

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
Act? Now?

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
Because there you got you got four adult Well we
got four people smush and stuck together in a fireplace.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
Like what else could they have done?

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
There was no other option in my opinion.

Speaker 5 (01:11:03):
They could just cut like a hole in the boards
and made.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
A door cut.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
What do you mean they couldn't?

Speaker 5 (01:11:09):
Like he cud moved enough to.

Speaker 4 (01:11:11):
Move, but he got his wind out for something? Yeah,
cut like you know, done something else with it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
I'm picturing him with his wind in his hand already
and he's like pressed up against like this and his
wand is like right here. And for those of you
who are missing the video, this is gold. So you
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Speaker 4 (01:11:31):
She's like she looks like a mime. She has you know,
like the mind, but by her face.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
But I'm picturing him more like this, and so he
can just kind of go like he doesn't have to
move his wand he can just save the spell and
just tap it or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:11:47):
But then at the same time, why couldn't you switched
up against it? Right, He's already there physically, Why did
you have to to the other side?

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
You have to turn?

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
No, you don't you do?

Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
Yeah, your whole body just goes.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
Like, yeah, you don't.

Speaker 5 (01:12:04):
That's when they learn to operate. They have to turn
on the.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
No, it's only what I don't remember any turning and
operator either.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
It's like deliberate.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
Everything, demination, deliberation.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
Yeah, exactly, there's I don't think I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
They have to turn on the spot. And that's the
part that's tricky because they have to turn on the
spot just right to end up in like the next
hoop or whatever they're working with in the hall.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
See, I know we ain't got Alison on here because
Alison would be like receipts because I listeners call us
out because me and Catherine, we we are busy on
any rules around spinning whenever it comes to.

Speaker 4 (01:12:45):
I just thought that was for students like this is
a basic for children. This is how you get into
the field.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
All literally all the operating that we hear about in
the book. I don't ever remember anybody spinning.

Speaker 4 (01:12:58):
They just disappeared, Yeah, exactly, like they just po.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
Okay, so here it is and have blood prints. When
they're having their apparition lessons, they get the three d's
the destination, determination, and deliberation, and it says step three,
turn on the spot, feel your way into nothingness, moving
with deliberation.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
So it's turn on the spot.

Speaker 5 (01:13:21):
You should interpret spinning and turning as differently, but you
gotta at least turn either way.

Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
I guess he has to move through.

Speaker 5 (01:13:30):
The twist is what you got to do in order to.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
Yeah, you have to you have to move.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
I just don't feel like I just don't feel like
any other adult does this. Like I don't like I
feel like I understand that this is what was taught
whenever they were first learning, But I just don't see
Dumbledore spinning to apperate like I just I feel like
it just disappears.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
I don't think it's like a dance kind of spin.
I think it's just like they're turning, just like you,
like you're changing direction when you're walking, like you just
you turn to the right. I think they're just turning
and then they disappear. I don't think they're doing.

Speaker 4 (01:14:04):
Like a full turn. They can do it midstride in
the movies. Okay, okay, but the movies. I know. I'm
just saying. I'm just saying though.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
Like I think it's just like you take a small
step to the right and then you just poof. It's
not like it's not like an elaborate like balleria thing
where you're like turning around and no, I know, I.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
Just in my head, to me, operating is just like
you think about it and you're gone, Like I just
I never thought about this.

Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
I don't know. It's it's fine, we can I know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
The point that you're making is like he couldn't have
operated because based on based on what we learn in
the book, like you, you can't operate if you're smushed
up again something is okay.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
So we can't operate. He can't cut a hole in
the wall. What else we got?

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
There's nothing else that he can do.

Speaker 4 (01:14:54):
I don't think Uncle Vernon has a crowbar. I have
a crow are because I remodel houses aka my own
house but you could have pried it open. If it's wood,
you could have pried it open. I also have a mallet.
I could have busted a hole in it, like lower
where their legs are, not where their face is, because

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then at the same time, I'm like, his face is
pushed up against it. Why would you blow up something
that your face is on.

Speaker 5 (01:15:23):
And if we're looking for another magical option, he could
have just vanished the boards so instead of they could
have just fallen out.

Speaker 4 (01:15:34):
You're right, I like that option a heck of a
lot better.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
Transfiguration, is that what you mean?

Speaker 3 (01:15:42):
Like the vanishing spell.

Speaker 4 (01:15:46):
Make it into nothingness, anything would be better than blowing up.

Speaker 5 (01:15:53):
Then he could have just conjured it back when he left.

Speaker 4 (01:15:56):
Huh yeah, look at you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
I think that this was just it was. It was
it was I think on this pressure.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
I also I also feel like we all are sitting
here in our very non tight spaces where we can
and it's very easy to sit here and ponder, can't
I do this? But whenever there are four of you,
you can barely breathe, you can barely move, You're just
going to end You're a gryffindor let's just go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
And put that in there.

Speaker 9 (01:16:25):
Okay, okay, you're you're a gryffindor who is not her mind,
so we do okay because Hermione, her Miney probably would
have done that, like Hermione would first like, okay, let's
vanish these.

Speaker 1 (01:16:38):
But yeah, I think I just think in the moment,
you're like, I'm smushed, I need my space, I'm gonna
I'm acting down.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
Thinking later exactly it was, it was.

Speaker 4 (01:16:47):
A explosion because to get don to just explode.

Speaker 5 (01:16:51):
But I do think it just the fact that this
is the first thing that comes to us to his mind,
is it kind of gives credence to the fact that
how use he must uh, how use he must speed
to explosions since apparently they happened all the time in
his house.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
Yeah, yeah, that's awesome, that's true, No big deal, just
another explosion.

Speaker 4 (01:17:14):
Do you think this is a normal thing, which we
know that there are things that happen in the house,
there are things that happen at his work, like we
know that he's around that, but in other people's houses
and purposefully doing this to other people's houses. He seems
completely oblivious to the fact that it isn't okay to
blow up someone's living room, like regardless of whether they're

(01:17:38):
a wizard or muggle. He's like, this is totally normal, Like,
oh sorry, I'll fix that later, Like you could say
you're sorry, like you could apologize. You could fix it immediately,
like right now, and then find a different way to
get home. Like he already knows they're traumatized. He can
see that they're traumatized, like they're not hadding their fear.

(01:18:03):
I don't know. It just doesn't make sense to me.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
It's literally like what you said when you ask, is
this a normal thing? I think that as a wizard,
if you're so used to always being able to put
something back together, it's not a big deal to you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
If you could just be like scourgeify.

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
Or repairo like you're not, yeah, exactly, Like it's not
it's not that big of a deal, right, Like if
we knock over like a boil, a boil, like a
bowl of like eggs or something, you know, just like
things are horrible to clean up, right Like you like
you're about to make scrambled eggs and the bowl falls over,
Like if you're like, gosh, you're either pausing to take
a deep breath or you probably are screaming something of profanity,

(01:18:41):
very loud. Okay, it's it's probably one or two of
those things. But if you're a wizard, you're just like whoop.
So I think that for author, like there's there's nothing
any kind of like malicious, nothing like they deserve it,
nothing egotistical.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
It literally is just straight up. This is his mom.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
He's in a house with how many kids, Like Taylor said,
things are always blowing up, like you were just saying
you can just fix it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
Like to him, it's like this stuff is just not
a big deal.

Speaker 4 (01:19:09):
Yeah, you're right, And he does say I was wrong.
He said, yeah, sorry about that. Yeah, he just he
did like apologize about that. I'll fix it later.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
If anything, he's he's probably in his own way horrified
at how horrified they are, because he's like, why are
y'all so horrible?

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
Like he's probably like relaxed, like I'm looking at my line.

Speaker 5 (01:19:32):
And it's like.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
I can fix this in two seconds.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
Like you're so mad that your son's tongue is that big.
It was like, I mean, come on, just let me
no big deal.

Speaker 4 (01:19:44):
It's a joke. Like it's like one of those things
on social media that they're like, yeah that, They're like,
it was a prank. And then they show like the
prank and it's something that's like life threatening and really bad.
They're like, but it was a prank, and then like this,
his tongue is blocking his airway, Like that's not a
funny prank no matter who you are, you know, but

(01:20:07):
this actually so back to blowing up the fireplace, it
brings me back to the comment our throwback comment from
episode forty one. Of course, this is from Deanna, and
she says, I think the entire scene would have been
different if Molly had been the one to pick up Harry.

(01:20:30):
For one thing, Molly seems to be much more level
headed than Arthur, so I don't think she would have
even used flu powder because she seems to follow the
rules a bit more. She would not have used a
connection at the ministry to hook up the Dursleys to
the flu network. However, if she did, I think she
would stop and think long enough to come up with
a better solution than blowing up the fireplace. Hmmm, for example,

(01:20:55):
sending everyone home and operating into the Dursley's living room. Perhaps. Also,
we know that the twins are afraid of their mother,
so I don't think they would have ever pulled this
prank on Dudley with Molly present. I think the Dursleys
still would have looked down on Molly solely for being
a witch, but I don't think they would have been
as rude or shocked, since I think she would have

(01:21:16):
handled the situation better in the first place. Well, I agree,
one hundred percent.

Speaker 5 (01:21:24):
Agree.

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
Well, I think we just covered all the reasons why
they couldn't go back.

Speaker 4 (01:21:29):
And ask, so she could and they couldn't go back.

Speaker 3 (01:21:32):
But I do recall at the end of I think
it's it's either Askaban or it might even be Sorcerer's
Stone where they see Molly and Vernon refers to her
as a dumpy sort of woman, or they're talking about
Mally or something like that, and he reversed her as
a dumpy sort of woman. So I don't think that

(01:21:55):
they would necessarily be inclined to be more welcoming in
her either, because he's already got the impression that the
Weasleys are just not to their standard at all. So
I really don't think it matters who came, like Vernon
was gonna have a problem no matter what.

Speaker 4 (01:22:13):
I also think that missus Weasley would not have been
the bigger person. No, I think she would have ripped
them a new one if they were rude to her.
I don't think she would have been as jovial war
especially I mean, of course, I think he they're stuck

(01:22:36):
or whatever, and Harry's like, there's an electric fireplace in
front of the fireplace, and he completely forgets the entire
that he's in this predicament electricity, it's eculetric, it's electric.
Oh I need to know about this, And like all
his sons are like the heck, Dad, like we're stuck

(01:22:56):
in here, shut up, get us out. You know, that
would have not happened with Molly. She would have been like,
what the heck is wrong with you people? Boarding up
this fireplace? Like I think she would have one given
them the what for. And if she had exploded it,
I think she would have been.

Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
Like, stand back, this is your fault.

Speaker 4 (01:23:17):
Yeah, oh yeah that too that he.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
Does tell them to stand bad back, and then she's like,
this is your fault.

Speaker 4 (01:23:23):
Why did you do this? And and I think she
would have given them the Molly Weasley stern thing that
she gives her children. And I think she would have
given that to Vernon. I really do, why did you
do this? What what normal person? Da dah dah da
da da? Like I think she would have.

Speaker 3 (01:23:39):
I think definitely would have said something for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:23:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:42):
The fact that that Arthur stands there though, and is
explaining to them what happened and why.

Speaker 4 (01:23:51):
Brian does not care, and they're just like, no, no,
it's because he's just like looking horrified.

Speaker 3 (01:23:58):
Oh this happened because blah blah blah, and we thought
we'd be able to get through, and the Dursleys are
just like, we don't care. You just blew up our
living room.

Speaker 4 (01:24:07):
We don't know why, right, it was completely horrible.

Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
It's cute that mister Weasley thought they were going to care.

Speaker 4 (01:24:15):
It is, And I don't think missus Weasley would have
one hundred percent like I said, I think she would
have been like, well, what'd you do this for? Like,
what normal person does this? I don't obviously something's wrong
with you. Like, I really do think she would have
gotten them. But then, like I said, you know, he
flips out and then goes to his ecletricity. Uh uh,

(01:24:38):
I have plugs and batteries at home. Remind me when
he keeps this collection. Where is he keeping this collection
of plugs and batteries? I thought maybe it would be
at work, but then he says something about Missus Weasley
thinking he's mad. Is it because she knows he has

(01:24:58):
them and collects them or because he keeps him at home?

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
Yeah, I'm thinking of the shed the same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:25:04):
Like I don't I'm trying to figure out if we
get confirmation or if that's just a movie ism, lego
gameism where they have all the tools in the shed.
I feel like somewhere they do mention it, but I'm
not one hundred percent sure.

Speaker 1 (01:25:18):
Because it's like the same place where he was keeping
the car, and I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
I feel like I don't remember which book that was.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
Was it happ Blood whenever Double Doore brought Harry to
the burrow and he was like he wanted to talk
to him in private, and I feel like he was.

Speaker 5 (01:25:33):
In he went to the shed or something the ship
like yeah, because it kind of echoed when rheus Keeter
like shoves him into the broom closet. I remember the
first time I read that. I was just like, apparently
just gets shoved into wherever he like whenever I want
to start a new prible, it's just get right in.

Speaker 4 (01:25:49):
There wherever's closest.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
Yeah, so that's where he's keeping him in the shed.

Speaker 4 (01:25:55):
But yeah, because he I didn't remember that because I
kind of wondered.

Speaker 5 (01:25:57):
If inspiration for the movies in the like okay, because
I remembered that too in the Lego game. That's it's
like pretty much like a interactive museum of Muggle things.
Is that. You know, he probably kept the car out
there to work on, and so naturally when he keep
all the Muggle things he needed right there with the car. True,

(01:26:19):
she also probably didn't want him in the house.

Speaker 4 (01:26:21):
I don't think they had room for it in the house,
you know, probably not unless they made plugs in the
walls that he could plug it into and play with
his little just like a kid plugging it into the wall.
Oh this one has two prongs. Oh this one has
three prongs. Oh, like I could totally see that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:26:40):
Well, and I learned from another podcast that apparently, and
I don't know if this was everywhere or specifically, the
UK plugs were not standardized for the longest time. So
that's that explains why he has a collection that he
needed multiple, because.

Speaker 4 (01:27:00):
Oh, it's not like here where you have a two
or three and if you have an oven or a stove,
it might be a four, but for the majority, it's
gonna be two or three. Any think about that? Hm hmm,
look at us learning stuff. Thank's Taylor so smart? And

(01:27:22):
then we go and there he's trying to have a
conversation with Dudley, who is furiously clamping his butt buttocks,
and do we see we see this in the movie
right where he's like having a good holiday Dudley where
he's like, because none of it okay, pretty.

Speaker 5 (01:27:47):
Much starts with the dream, but he's already at the borough,
like it's like the day girl's port key for the
friddage catch.

Speaker 4 (01:27:59):
So I can see so mister Weasley's like feeling sympathy
for Dudley because he looks like he's in pain because
he's gripping his butt so hard, and he's like, have
they got good holiday?

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
Dudley?

Speaker 4 (01:28:13):
Like I could see him being like, oh he did?
This kid's nuts? Like are you okay? And I'm sure
Harry doesn't talk about Dudley often to him, So with
the fact that this apparently rotund young man is running
back and forth in the house, grabbing his buttocks, which

(01:28:34):
I'm sure mister Weasley does not know that there was
ever a curly pigtail there. He's just a kid grabbing
his butt of course, I could see him going have
a nice holiday, you know, you know, and and so
then we see that like Dudley and Petunia, so mister
Vernon's uncle Vernon steps in front of them, and I

(01:28:56):
and I know in the movies whatever, But I knew
that he was supposed to be massive, and I knew
that that appetunity was supposed to be like a stick.
But it says here that Dudley is ridiculously larger than
his dad. Did I miss this? After all these years,

(01:29:18):
he's supposed to be bigger than his dad.

Speaker 1 (01:29:21):
I mean, at one point they said that he was
the size of a small killer whale.

Speaker 2 (01:29:24):
This was very this was very exaggerating.

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
I know there was an episode a while back where
I just kind of talked about how like the author
just made a lot of this very cartoonish. Obviously, Dudley
was not literally the size of a baby killer whales.
So I'm pretty sure this is exaggerated. But I mean,
but it's just made to let us know that he
is a very large.

Speaker 4 (01:29:48):
Child was nowhere near enough to conceal. Dudley like, I
don't know, Like I understand like describing people the way
they look, but like go in to that degree to
I mean, would you call it fat, Jane? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:30:11):
It's just.

Speaker 4 (01:30:13):
I think during that time I was gonna say, during
that time period, I probably would have been like, oh
my gosh, he's just humongous or whatever. And now I'm like,
did you I mean, did it matter? Did it matter
what size he was? I mean, obviously when Dumbledore or

(01:30:35):
whoever says that she was abusing him in a different
way than she was abusing Harry because she fed him
so much or whatever, but like, did it matter that
he was overweight? Did it matter his size? Like this moment,
did you have to say right right? Did you have
to say that he hid behind him and wasn't even

(01:30:59):
close to because he's just so gigantic? Like that's like
you said, It's what what was the purpose other than shame,
like to show how I don't know. It's just a
little frustrating looking back at it to see something like
that that was not necessary to be said.

Speaker 3 (01:31:20):
So the way mister Weasley is talking to him and
just it kind of cracks me up because he thinks it.
Dudley is disturbed, but isn't he though, like we talked
about a little bit earlier, he must have some PTSD
from what Haggard did to him and he really needed
to have gotten some help. Though we know that Dursleys

(01:31:40):
would never have done that because then they would have
had to disclosed what happened to him.

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
So right, but that leads would believe in therapy anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:31:53):
They don't care, No, absolutely not. They're like they're in
denial because they're probably just like, oh, it's fine if
we ignore it, pretend it never happened. It never happened.

Speaker 4 (01:32:03):
That's a very Southern thing. Also, by the way, apparently
it's British too, but it's very Southern, like if you
just act like it never happened, and then come back
the next day and act like nothing ever happened, then
everything's fun and then you just move forward. And why
would you need to talk about that? You're bringing that
back up? Why are you bringing them back up? Are
you are you okay? You just need to let that go?

(01:32:26):
Why are you holding on it? Well?

Speaker 3 (01:32:30):
That leads me to a question, though, what do you think, like,
what would you have looked like if the Weasleys and
Dursley's had actually have been friends, Like, because mister Weasley
comes in a decent human being, he is kind and
everything to Vernon to Dudley, what if they had become friends,

(01:32:52):
because I feel like they could have learned a lot
from each other. It could have worked out for everybody,
you know, the Dursleys could have found out that magical
doesn't necessarily make you a bad person and maybe learn
some tips from being decent people. And Arthur would have
gotten asked all the questions about the electricity, So like,
what do you what do you think I would have
looked like? Obviously I know it's impossible, but what do

(01:33:14):
you think it would have looked like?

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
I'm like, girl, I don't even I don't even have
enough imagination for ponder them.

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
I'm not even gonna lie like I tried, and I'm like,
It's the only.

Speaker 5 (01:33:24):
Thing I can come up with is the fact that
Christizy would actually learn how to say the word electricity boom, Yes,
he would.

Speaker 4 (01:33:34):
I almost feel like if missus Weasley would give them
that talking to and would be like, y'all suck. Y'all
are jerks. I mean, obviously she wouldn't say in those terms,
but y'all are jerks. How dare you do this to
a child? Of all things? Like if she really there

(01:33:57):
was no explosion involved, there was no crazy thing to
immediately have them on all their senses heightened, you know,
for them to already be knocked off their game, but
for somebody to just straight up be like, how dare
you like you are awful people, you're terrible people. You're

(01:34:19):
you know, like if the really and like and if
she's honed down on Petunia, like, how dare you do
this to your daughter's son just because you da da
duh and you know about magic and you know blah
blah blah, and how dare you be this pos to
this child? And I think if they started out with

(01:34:45):
that or something to that degree, maybe they'd have their
their nose in the air knocked a couple of notches
down to where they could be like, now let's have
have a civil conversation. Sits your whatever butt's down, and

(01:35:06):
let's talk about this child and what's the best for him.
And if you don't want anything to do with it
And I don't know, and I know that doesn't work
on people like them, but that was you said, if
it could ever happen, how would it. I think that
would be. I think something a real smack in the

(01:35:27):
face would have to be the start to them. And honestly,
I think it would work even better if Missus Weasley
did like the muffle lotta not muffle lot of that's
a that's a sound. Yeah, if she did that on
them and made them sit down and shut their mouths,

(01:35:49):
made them sit down and listen to her, I really
do I think it would. I think it would literally
scare them enough to be like, holy crap, they could
They could end me right now, and there's nothing I
can do about it. I don't know, that's my thought.

Speaker 2 (01:36:06):
I mean I could buy it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:07):
I just.

Speaker 4 (01:36:09):
I don't think they'd be friends. Yeah, but I think
they I think they would respect. I think they would
at least respect the Weasleys at that.

Speaker 1 (01:36:17):
Yeah, no about like they need to have somebody like
and also just somebody to like throw the truth in
their face, like you're actually child abusers and there's nothing
cool about there's something funny about this, Like you're actually
terrible human beings and if like and if law enforcement
found out that you were doing this, like you could

(01:36:37):
actually be imprisoned. So this this whole thing where you're
acting like you're better than everyone were actually But I mean, there,
I don't like, there's no world where the Weasleys gets
because I because because if we if mister and missus
Weasley actually knew what was going on, they wouldn't.

Speaker 5 (01:36:56):
There is no they wouldn't be part of the eat, Like,
they wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:36:59):
Even want to be their friends. They would like they
would be livid.

Speaker 1 (01:37:02):
So I don't know, listeners, you can let us know
what you think, but I just think, yeah, it wouldn't happen.

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
But I hear what you mean in terms of like
it would have to be like sit down, shut up,
this is this is what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:37:16):
And even then this happens again, I will report you
to the police. I will. And your.

Speaker 2 (01:37:24):
It happens again, we'll get a dragon a blood your boss.

Speaker 5 (01:37:27):
Okay, I'm like, I mean, they got a plug with
the dragon their own side.

Speaker 3 (01:37:30):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:37:32):
They could go fine, they got they got connections.

Speaker 1 (01:37:35):
Oh my god, has anyone read the Fourth Wing series? No, Catherine,
I just started it and I am literally obsessed. When
I said, it has been so long since I have
been this obsessed with a book series. It's so bad,
Like me, like, I'm so bad that like because normally,

(01:37:59):
like I have a my headphones and I'm listening to books.
Like my husband like comes home and he's like, he's like,
you're always playing that.

Speaker 10 (01:38:05):
Book around the house because I like have a just
full speaker anything anything that I am doing if I'm
not like on the phone or working, I'm I am
listening to this book.

Speaker 1 (01:38:15):
And now he's like I was like, this book is
so good, and he's like, yeah, I can tell you
really like it.

Speaker 2 (01:38:21):
So the Dragon thing came up for me.

Speaker 1 (01:38:24):
I'm like yeah, anyway, I'm just I'm glad to know
someone else you saw that I posted in the thread
and I was looking for another book series. So most
of the I got a ton of recommendations. The problem
is most of them are already checked out from the library.
Most of them they have like weeks of like a
wait list. So the Fourth Wing is the is the
first one that I looked up and it was actually available,

(01:38:45):
So I was like borrow immediately, and I am yeah,
I'm so hooked.

Speaker 2 (01:38:49):
Anyways, yeah, we can move on. Very good listeners if
any of you have read it as well.

Speaker 4 (01:38:54):
Relate like That's the cool thing about it is like
like that it's not done, She's not finished.

Speaker 11 (01:39:00):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
I'm actually actually got really sad when I learned that,
because I'm not used to waiting Catherine like it's.

Speaker 4 (01:39:05):
Oh, well, yeah that too. I mean, yeah, I don't
like that that part of it, but I do like
that there's yeah, you know, there's gonna be And it's.

Speaker 1 (01:39:11):
Funny because my brain is like, Bianca, take your time,
and I'm doing the pull.

Speaker 2 (01:39:14):
I'm flying through this book, flying through.

Speaker 4 (01:39:16):
Don't just have to do it again when it comes
closer to town.

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
Yeah, they're right, you're right. I definitely feel like this
is a series I could reread. Okay, anyways, we're going
to move on now. So so speaking of good books,
back to Harry Potter. Why is Harry not helping out
with this awkward silence? Because I think he calls the
a nasty so something like that in the books, and

(01:39:42):
I'm just.

Speaker 2 (01:39:43):
Like, Harry, he could he could say anything.

Speaker 1 (01:39:47):
He could be like, all right, well I'm gonna head out,
or he could be like, oh well, mister Weasley. How
are things that were like he could small talk something
and like if do we think Harry's enjoying this at all?
Or do we think that he's just like not like
socially adept enough to be like.

Speaker 2 (01:40:06):
Oh, I'm the I'm the middle ground person here.

Speaker 1 (01:40:09):
Let me try to bridge or you know, something like
is he enjoying it or is he just is he
just not thinking about it?

Speaker 5 (01:40:16):
I think number two, he's just it's a socially adept part.
He doesn't He didn't know how to navigate this because
he's not used to polite or a facade. Is that
the word facade of politeness with the Jersleys?

Speaker 4 (01:40:34):
Oh yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:40:35):
But also whatever he uses to feel the silence, is
that really going to make the situation any better?

Speaker 1 (01:40:41):
I mean, I feel like I feel like it could have.
I really feel like he could have been like, howard's
your summer been? And at least it would have been like, Okay,
we're not all just standing here looking at each other
in this silence. I mean, it probably would have been
obvious that he was trying to cover it up, but

(01:41:04):
I don't know. It just made me laugh when I
the nar reader was talking about how it was a
nasty silence, and I'm like, I don't think Harry, this
this could have been a moment for you, my gene.
He was just like nope, nope.

Speaker 4 (01:41:15):
I also think he's overwhelmed. He's got and he's probably
like me, thinking through everything that was just said and
everything that was just done, and was like, what are
going to be the consequences of all these things?

Speaker 2 (01:41:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:41:35):
You know, like, granted, he's going to the borough, thank
goodness that he's not staying at the Dursleys after this
catastrophe has just happened. But I would be thinking, like,
like we said before, I mean, he's got PTSD, not well,
we were actually talking about Dudley having PTSD from the tail.
Obviously he's grabbing his butt the whole time. But I

(01:41:55):
would think about Harry being I mean, he's been there
every year of his life, and he's been there now
every summer since he's gone to Hogwarts. He's punished for everything,
and so these people are in the house blowing stuff up,
acting like everything's normal. How's he gonna be punished for this?
Like I'd be thinking about everything that was just said

(01:42:18):
or everything that was just done, and now the twins
are looking at each other with evilish grinds, and it's like,
what are they about to do? What's up their sleeves?
And then then you're thinking about how mister Weasley's gonna
have them go home, And then you're thinking about, like
i'd my trunk that's chunking down the stairs, and then

(01:42:42):
like I would just be completely overwhelmed by everything that
had just happened and everything that was about to happen.
And then mister Weasley's talking to this boy that he
thinks is disturbed. Was your summer, Dudley? Yeah, Like, and
I'm just like, there's so much going on right now.
I'm so overwhelmed. I'm just not gonna say anything. And

(01:43:02):
I what is it. I'm gonna sit in my room
and be quiet and pretend that I don't exist. Like
I feel like that's still in his head, and he
hasn't given these snarky there's a loss in my house. Okay,
he hasn't given these snarky comebacks because I think there's
just so much going on and there's so like he's

(01:43:23):
had opportunities, but he just hasn't because I I feel
like there's just not the time. It's not the time
for it or whatever, that's fair. And then the twins
are looking at each other all sly and junk and
then you know Fred just oh oh no, I spit
the the toffees like I know why he did it,

(01:43:47):
but why did he do that? Like oh, and I'm
glad he did it because Dudley deserves it, that jerk.
But still like.

Speaker 2 (01:43:58):
Bless, I mean, they sell these things, so it's not.

Speaker 4 (01:44:03):
Like the wizards.

Speaker 2 (01:44:05):
Yeah, yes, yes, that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:44:09):
Okay, that's that's a fair point.

Speaker 2 (01:44:13):
They're so cute.

Speaker 4 (01:44:17):
And then wrapper at the bottom that's open. But if
you look closely, all of these wrappers have something on
the outside of them, like and I'm sure this is
a this is just the illustrated book, but one of
them has like one of them has like a star
on the outside of it, and it's green, So I

(01:44:39):
wonder if that would be like a slug. One of
them has a spider on it, one of them has
I wonder I wonder if they were just unlabeled kind
of like we have just plain brightly colored wrappers, which
I think it says in there that it was just
brightly colored. But I wonder if they were labeled for

(01:45:02):
them to know which is which, like at the ton tongue,
ton tongue for the ways, least to know, like if
they're probably yes, so if they have ton tongue coffee
that's in a wrapper, then wouldn't you need something to
know that that was ton tongue coffee toffee? And then
this one's the vomiting one, and then this puking pastels,

(01:45:25):
and then this one's the because they're all kind of
similar looking, aren't they. One's like the slug repellent.

Speaker 5 (01:45:32):
Because at this point, you know, they're literally working with
pocket money. They don't have Harry's investment yet, so they can't, right,
they can't contract somebody to make very specific wrappers for
each individual one. They're probably like making these wrappers themselves,
and they probably all look the same, so they're probably
hand right drawing a spider a star to differentiate each

(01:45:56):
and every one.

Speaker 4 (01:45:57):
Yes, that's what I would think. So like if it
had something drawn on it for me, if I had
previously been given a tail, I would just be like,
you know what I mean, it smells like candy, it
looks like candy, but it's got a spider on it.
I wonder, you know, like if I open this wrapper,

(01:46:18):
because I wouldn't even think about eating it. I just
think if I opened it, this candy is gonna turn
into a spider, you know what I mean? Or if
it had like ten like then, see, you could put
ten tongue toffee and you could just put the number
ten on it to know that that's the toffee one

(01:46:39):
in the wrapper. Or maybe they just brought all ten
tongue tongue toffee wrappers. I don't know. I was just thinking,
like you could put ten on it and you wouldn't
necessarily know that it was gonna make your tongue swell up,
so he could eat it and not worry about it
doing that, you know, part of the sneakiness.

Speaker 5 (01:47:01):
So are you thinking to the fact that it's not
clearly labeled is why Dudley ate it? Or the fact
that it's not clearly labeled. Yeah, that Fred or George
whoever dropped dropped it, may have he didn't realize which one.

Speaker 4 (01:47:18):
He dropped, both of them, both of them. I think
because it's not clearly labeled, Dudley is fine with eating it.
And also because it's not clearly labeled, maybe Fred didn't
know that was the specific one he was dropping. Maybe
he thought he was dropping the puking pastels, or maybe
he thought he was dropping the slug, or maybe they
were playing it safe quote safe, and he just brought

(01:47:42):
all ton tongue or it's not ten tongue, it's ton
a ton. I thought it was ten yes, t o
in my brain. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:47:54):
I think knew what they were doing. He knew what
he was dropping. He knew.

Speaker 4 (01:47:59):
So that just brought all those specific ones.

Speaker 5 (01:48:03):
Yeah and so or okay, he had multiple, but he
made sure the one what was left was tongue tongue toffee.

Speaker 4 (01:48:10):
Oh no, that's the orange wrapper, you know, or you know,
that would make sense, especially like you were saying with
the shoe string budget. You know, you've got your the slug,
the thing where you burp slugs or whatever. Well no,
that was eight yeah, yeah, eat slugs and then it
backfired on him. That was a spell. Yeah yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:48:32):
But the canary creams, you eat them and you turn
into a canary.

Speaker 4 (01:48:36):
So maybe that one's rapper. So that would make sense
to not necessarily have the wrapper decorated at that point
in their franchise. They could just have yellow or red
for the one that makes the steam come out of
your ears, like you could have red for those, and
you could you know that? Would that would make sense?
And then he would know exactly which one he had dropped. Yeah,

(01:49:00):
that's smart. So Fred scrambles around, crams him back into
his pocket, and then he gave the Dursleys a cheery
wave because he knew it was coming obviously. He stepped
forward and walks right into the fire, saying the burrow.
Aunt Petunia gave a little shuddering gasp. There was a
wishing sound sound, and Fred vanished. Why do we think

(01:49:22):
she shuddered at him walking into the flue flames? He
shouts the burrow, She gasps, slash shutters. Do you think
she's remembering the old days of when her family used
to do that? Or is she just so disgusted by
all forms of magic that it literally repulses her? Or

(01:49:43):
would she have ever heard of the Weasleys and the burrow?
And her gasp? Is her remembering it's not as booge
as her family's house, Oh the barrow?

Speaker 3 (01:49:54):
Who well, Honestly, I just think it's a mad of
her being disgusted by any type of magic, because she
considered it to be abnormal because you remember that she
called Lily a freak for being a witch, and she
just signs anything that's not like her to be unnatural.

(01:50:20):
And plus magic had just destroyed her house. So and
I don't think her family would have never used flu
powder because they were they were muggles, so Lily was
muggle born, so they would never she would never have
seen this before. But even so, this is unnatural that
Petunia does not do unnatural, that's right.

Speaker 5 (01:50:42):
I mean it is a little less true disturbing to
see a child just walk nonchalantly into, you know, a
bunch of flames and you expect. You don't expect them
to just disappear and be fine. You expect something else
to be apt to happen.

Speaker 4 (01:51:00):
Right, It's like the burning bush that doesn't burn, the
burning child walking in and it's not he's not burning.
What's happening because she didn't You're right, she did. She
didn't see them come in through the fire, so you're
right because obviously they use the flu network, so she
didn't see them come in. So yeah, that makes sense

(01:51:22):
that she would be.

Speaker 5 (01:51:23):
Like, but that does bring a question do you need it?
Because they the fire went in lit obviously when they came.
Do you only need a fire lit when you leave?
You must, because why would they bother lighting one in
the first place.

Speaker 3 (01:51:41):
I think maybe you only need a lit on the
traveling end, like the departure end, not the arrival end.

Speaker 4 (01:51:48):
H that makes sense, especially since he lit it before
they left. Yeah, and then to see the fire go
from orange to green, like that's yeah, that's unnatural.

Speaker 5 (01:52:00):
It's almost it's almost like she was surprised and astonished,
but then when she realized, but then when she remembers, oh,
it's magic, she like purposely puts herself back into that
mindset of this is abnormal. I am supposed to not
like this.

Speaker 4 (01:52:17):
Yeah, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 3 (01:52:19):
Oh what if she secretly thinks it's cool on the
inside and she's secretly fascinating, but she's just showing disiting
on the outside for appearances.

Speaker 4 (01:52:30):
Yeah yeah, because I mean they do bring attention to
the fact that she gasped and shuddered, so it'd be
like clutching her pearls. I guess you know, Oh, this
is oh sunnatural. Yeah, I could see that.

Speaker 5 (01:52:46):
How dare you? Lisea is a fireplace, It's great, civilized
people used the front door.

Speaker 4 (01:52:50):
Yeah, and then it's also like how dare they? But
also how how how did they? How? How what is that?
Oh my gosh, what is that?

Speaker 7 (01:53:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:53:01):
Yeah, yeah, how dare they? But also how Yes, civilized
people leave through the front door. But then I don't
want them to leave through the front door because they
might blast it open, Like you know, they just exploded
my fireplace, so why wouldn't they?

Speaker 3 (01:53:16):
Then the neighbors would see, and it would be a
whole other issue. O.

Speaker 5 (01:53:20):
The neighbors would see, and then all that would just
get all over the perfectly green lawn.

Speaker 4 (01:53:25):
Oh my gosh, how dare and all the white I
guess it's drywall. It says that there's white also all
over him. So another picture. Oh wow, it's mister Weasley
where he's been blown up. He looks very old in this, I.

Speaker 5 (01:53:49):
Mean he is.

Speaker 3 (01:53:50):
He's stressed out, that is true.

Speaker 5 (01:53:54):
And he's gotta be quite a bit older than than
the Dursleys, because you know, I did the math years ago,
but about how the age difference between Bill and Jenny.
But uh, it's definitely minimum of eight or nine. So

(01:54:15):
there's probably a good a ten year difference between the
oldest and the youngest child.

Speaker 4 (01:54:22):
So that would that's gotta be hard.

Speaker 5 (01:54:24):
So that would put mister Weasley five to ten years older,
uh than the Dursleys, So he is there's a big
age difference between all the parents in the room.

Speaker 4 (01:54:36):
I just thought they got young, got married young, and
started having them young. I didn't really pay attention to that.
But but yeah, the parents in the room, and of
course mister author, mister Weasley being the the real parent
in the room, the loving, caring kind yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:54:57):
The only real Yeah. Like the way he stands up
for Harry is just it warms my heart when they
get ready to leave and Harry says bye, and Vernon
just stands there and he stands up for him, and
he's like, aren't you gonna say goodbye to your nephew?
Like how dare you? Like, it's just it's it's sad.

(01:55:19):
Like it's funny of course, because we see Vernon like
struggling with himself, but it's also sad that he can't
be a decent human being for like two seconds and
say bye.

Speaker 8 (01:55:31):
M h.

Speaker 4 (01:55:32):
He he's not even willing to fake it, which.

Speaker 3 (01:55:35):
Is weird because you would think if he finds himself
so superior to everyone else, that.

Speaker 4 (01:55:40):
He would fake it, and that the only reason why
he ever he says anything is because he was afraid
because the wand was in mister Wesley's hand. He looks
at the wand and looks back at mister Weasley.

Speaker 5 (01:55:52):
He clearly interprets a threat.

Speaker 4 (01:55:54):
Yes, the only reason why you say anything is because
he's holding the wand why would you have done that earlier?
He just blew up your effing living room. Why did
now have to be the time you got nervous about
being nice? Like I would have been nice this whole time.
But oh my gosh, No, don't worry about that. It's
a whole. It's a massive hole in the wall. It's

(01:56:15):
totally fine. We'll clean that up. We'll clean that up
and we'll give contractors and we'll we'll have that patched up.
Don't you worry? What can I do for you? Do
you guys want some tea? Come right over here?

Speaker 2 (01:56:27):
Threatening him like like Hagrid did? Was more like no,
Like I feel like mister.

Speaker 1 (01:56:34):
Wesley is being really I mean, even though like what's
happening is intimidating, Like mister Weasley is still being really kind.

Speaker 4 (01:56:42):
I mean, well, yeah, yeah, he's like, well, you aren't
gonna see him until the end of the summer. Yeah,
it's like he don't care about that.

Speaker 1 (01:56:51):
And hold on to his pride as much as possible,
like he's still trying to be like I mean he
also he's the man of like he's the head of household.
Like he's not gonna want to just like bow down,
Like he's gonna try to.

Speaker 2 (01:57:06):
You know, hold on as much as he can so
he can, you know, look like big.

Speaker 4 (01:57:10):
Man, mister big in more than one way. But like,
but I agree with that, but also the only it
says here, the only reason why he he did that
was mister Weasley's wand was still in his hand and
Uncle Vernon's tunny as darted to it once before he
said very resentfully goodbye.

Speaker 2 (01:57:32):
Then yeah, So like.

Speaker 4 (01:57:36):
If if you're gonna be nervous about a wander or
being punished or you know whatever, wouldn't you have thought
that the whole time, Like even if you are trying
to put on a front of being the bigger man
and whatever. Because they don't know that Dudley's eating this
so far, so they don't know that, like things are

(01:57:57):
already going more to crap. They've already gone enough to crap. Like,
wouldn't you think he would just be like, all right, bye,
you know, I don't know. I think I'm thinking too
deep into it. I think so yeah. And then, like
we were saying, he does eat, Dudley does eat the

(01:58:18):
tongue tongue toffee an engorgement charm. So he says, Oh,
it's just an engorgement charm, don't worry about it. And
of course Dudley's flopping on the floor and his mom's
trying to pull it out, and it's, I guess, progressively
getting bigger because it's saying that the he's suffocating with
combined pressure of his mom pulling his tongue and the

(01:58:40):
swelling of his tongue. Wouldn't this literally be like a
person having an anaphylactic reaction with their tongues swelling. How
is this okay? Like? How is this? How is this
a prank? Like we were saying earlier, Oh, it's just
a prank. Then your tongue swells like you're having an

(01:59:01):
anaphylactic reaction and you're suffocating, you can't breathe.

Speaker 5 (01:59:06):
It makes me wonder if they had this reaction when
they were testing it on themselves, because surely they have
already done self testing at this point some of it, right,
Or do you think that they just didn't even bother
with the self testing.

Speaker 1 (01:59:21):
No, I think they self test everything. They didn't start
adding in other people until later. They self test everything.
So I mean, I think it's similar to what we
were saying earlier, Like to them, it's a frank like
it's not a big deal.

Speaker 2 (01:59:35):
Like people have different I don't know if like levels
is the right word, but there are people who.

Speaker 1 (01:59:44):
Accept certain things and certain people who don't write in
terms of so like there was one person who might
think that something is it went too far, somebody else
might think it wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:59:55):
And I mean, and again we're in the Wizarding world
where safety.

Speaker 4 (02:00:01):
Is safety is a joke.

Speaker 2 (02:00:02):
Safety is an option. It's like they.

Speaker 4 (02:00:04):
Don't safety is a prank.

Speaker 1 (02:00:06):
To be honest with you, I mean, the most horrifying
thing that they have to me is that whole vomiting
thing Like that to me is almost worse than that,
like to have someone violently like yeah, I just so
honestly to me, this thing, I'm not saying it's not
a big deal. It is that it's horrifying. But honestly,
I'm just like, yeah, and they and then they sold

(02:00:31):
it made we can fix it exactly because they can.

Speaker 2 (02:00:35):
That's the thing, because they because it is.

Speaker 4 (02:00:37):
You know, but what if it's a I mean but
a muggle. They gave it to a muggle. They can't
fix that. What if their dad had left and he
was there by himself.

Speaker 1 (02:00:49):
But Catherine, because that could go on and on and
on in so Minya through like.

Speaker 2 (02:00:59):
What of the demes to soul? No more? Dudley.

Speaker 4 (02:01:03):
Yeah, I know, but you're but but we're talking about
right now with this being a prank and not an
actual safety hazard where someone might die because they can
reverse it. But if you're not a magical person, you can't.

Speaker 1 (02:01:19):
But there was a magical person there, are you. You're
saying like, oh, you're saying like what if Arthur wasn't there?

Speaker 5 (02:01:23):
Like where do they all left? Before?

Speaker 4 (02:01:29):
It literally could have been ten seconds later, literally ten
seconds later, because he had just said bye to Harry
and Harry was about to swoosh through and mister Arthur
was just gonna mister Weasley was just gonna fix it
and leave. What if Dudley had had an ounce of

(02:01:49):
self control.

Speaker 5 (02:01:50):
But like further to the point, the only reason Arthur's
the last to leave is because he's got to fix
up the living room. So if the living room hadn't
been born up, Arthur could have left, well, well, he
still would have had Harry leave before him, I'm sure,
since considering Harry's last experience with the flu network, but

(02:02:11):
it's possible that he could. He would have been or
should everyone out faster.

Speaker 3 (02:02:17):
That is an excellent point.

Speaker 5 (02:02:18):
Yeah, I mean, like the Dursleys at this point, uh,
their worst nightmare has come through, has come true because
another wizard has done harm to their child.

Speaker 3 (02:02:31):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (02:02:32):
Yeah, And you would think at this point that I know,
I mean, I know Uncle Vernon is not thinking logically
because his son is suffocating and his wife is crying,
trying to pull this foreign object out of his mouth
that they probably don't know is his tongue. But he
could see that his son is literally suffocating of a

(02:02:53):
magical affliction. Wouldn't you think the man screaming I can't
fix it. It's Justina Gorge, my charm, I can fix it,
would be your best bet to help your dying son
in this moment? Why would you throw teacups at him,
I mean, like throwing things at him to try to
get him out when your son is suffocating, wouldn't you

(02:03:16):
think he would be like, well, then freaking fix.

Speaker 5 (02:03:19):
Him, you know, like I don't know that the first
person I trust is the help father of the boys
who did this to my son.

Speaker 4 (02:03:27):
That also blew up your living room twenty minutes earlier.

Speaker 3 (02:03:30):
Exactly, I mean, I mean that's fair. But at the
same time, he's the only one that can fix it,
so that is.

Speaker 4 (02:03:38):
True, right, he's only one left too.

Speaker 1 (02:03:43):
I think it's still pride, Like I think like he
Uncle Vernon does.

Speaker 2 (02:03:47):
Not ever, ever, ever, ever ever.

Speaker 1 (02:03:52):
Want to ask a wizard for help. And I know that,
And I hear you like it's your son, like he
can't breathe, of course, Like yeah, you would think that.
The parenting instinct is like I don't care, like I
will do anything right. But but I'm actually more surprised
that Petunia.

Speaker 2 (02:04:13):
Wasn't the one who was like, please do it.

Speaker 1 (02:04:16):
Because Petuna, whether she wants to deny it or not,
she understands more about magic. So I feel like for her,
she is the person who would be more likely to
be like Okay, I understand that this horrible we've had
this terrible magnetic exactly, we've had this terrible magic accident.
But I know that you have the ability to undo this,

(02:04:36):
so I'm not at all really, I'm really not surprised
that Vernon was more like, just get out, stay away.
They're probably thinking, you know what, we got to tell
removed whatever is coming out.

Speaker 4 (02:04:45):
Of his stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:04:46):
We could get that removed too.

Speaker 1 (02:04:47):
But I'm more surprised that Petunia was not the one
who was like you, like, you need to help my
son right now.

Speaker 4 (02:04:54):
You did this, you fix it? You know, Yeah, I get.

Speaker 1 (02:04:58):
And it wasn't and it's and still it wasn't like Hagrid,
who was like boom pixel right like exactly, like it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (02:05:04):
It wasn't like that. Like I said, even.

Speaker 1 (02:05:06):
Though mister Weasley has blown up their living room there,
they can see that mister Weasley means them no harm. Yeah,
I agree, Like Hagrid threatened him like if you say
anything else about Albus doubledore.

Speaker 12 (02:05:19):
Like you know what I mean, exactly, thank you exactly,
Like Hagrid was aggressive, like mister Weasley has been minus
blowing up.

Speaker 1 (02:05:30):
The fireplaces has not been aggressive, he's been all.

Speaker 4 (02:05:35):
Right, no, yeah, yes, and he was also like, oh,
I'm sorry about that, but I can fix it, and that,
you know, it's like I think I would be frightened
at the fact that there was an explosion, but also
like this man, it's not not a simpleton, but almost like, oh,
sorry about that, but I'll fix it. You know, it's
it's it's all good. How are you guys? And then

(02:05:56):
like it was like not a big deal to him,
So maybe I don't know. But then of course they're
not thinking logically in the moment, like I said, because
it's so much going on at one time, you know,
it's just so much going on.

Speaker 3 (02:06:09):
But I have to agree, like I am kind of
surprised that Petunia didn't step up because like as a mom,
when you see your child like sick or hurt or whatever,
fix you want to do whatever you can to fix it.
So I feel like Petunia would have said, like like
Bianca said, given that she understands the magical world, she

(02:06:31):
would have said, hey, please fix my son, like I
know you can do it. Just fix him, and Vernon
go yeah wherever.

Speaker 4 (02:06:39):
Yeah, Vernon, don't look.

Speaker 3 (02:06:45):
Close your eyes.

Speaker 2 (02:06:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:06:49):
But she's just crying and pulling at his tongue like useless.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:06:55):
These people are dumb're missing out on so much cool stuff,
like I would be fair girling.

Speaker 2 (02:07:01):
Show me. Can you do that thing with it again?
What can you show me today? Like make me disappear?

Speaker 4 (02:07:15):
I'll tell you.

Speaker 2 (02:07:18):
Oh, yes, exactly, Catherine Barter, we do what weekly sit down.

Speaker 1 (02:07:22):
I tell you all about electricity if you just show
me all see if.

Speaker 3 (02:07:28):
That's what I'm saying. It would have been cool if
they had been cool with wizards and they could have
been friends. Everybody could have learned something, everybody could have
had a good time like that. That would have been cool.

Speaker 2 (02:07:37):
Yeah, it would have been a different universe.

Speaker 3 (02:07:40):
Are Yeah, and we get the great The great thing
about this scene is that we do get excellent characterization
of the Dursleys because we're meant to believe that they
are these ridiculous, over the top people. And that's exactly
what we're getting, right with Petunias screaming and crying and
pulling and burning, freaking out, and they call the chaos

(02:08:02):
that's happening the way they are freaking out. Instead of
stopping and letting Arthur just fix the problem and being.

Speaker 4 (02:08:11):
Done any kind of logical anything.

Speaker 3 (02:08:13):
Yes, it really shows us who they are.

Speaker 4 (02:08:18):
They go, they are amen.

Speaker 2 (02:08:20):
People show you who they are.

Speaker 4 (02:08:23):
Believe them, Believe them. Yes, I totally believe them. Yes.
And so I wonder because right here they were saying
that Uncle Vernon was bellowing like a wounded hippo, and

(02:08:47):
I so you're saying this, this characterization of them. And
then a few pages back we saw a reference that
Aunt Petunia was peering through the curves, as if there
was word of an escaped rhinoceros. Are we using these
animal references because it's a children's book or because we

(02:09:10):
wanted to show the characterization of the size of Uncle Vernon.
Because he could have said bellowing like a bullfrog, I mean,
I don't know, or like a baby, but he used
a wounded hippo or what a banshee? Yeah, it could

(02:09:31):
have been a wizardy that. Yeah, it could have been anything,
But they chose a wounded hippo, which I would think
would be a reference to his size. Now hers was
as if they got word of an escaped rhinoceros. But like,
why why the animal references?

Speaker 3 (02:09:49):
I think it's just meant to make them seem extra ridiculous. Yeah,
and there's definitely on stone because the baby Hippo also
refers to both Dudley and Vernon as far as size,
but Petinia's extra ridiculousness by looking as though a wild

(02:10:15):
rhinoceros was coming down the road, like obviously that would
never happen. Probably that would probably never I hope that
never happens, Right, we'll say that, I hope.

Speaker 4 (02:10:27):
Hey, you know, she might have thought they were coming
on the rhinoceros's back. You know, you never know, here
come the magic people riding on the back of Rhinoh
you know, I don't know they're ridding on a unicorn.
I didn't know those existed, you know.

Speaker 3 (02:10:44):
Oh lord wow, So my next question here Vernon, he
starts throwing ornaments at mister Weasley. What did he think
he was going to do? Like this man is standing
here with the wind, he has magical capabilities. He's not

(02:11:08):
scared of your ornaments. Like what what are you doing?
Like you're making an unnecessary mess, You're breaking things that
are probably precious to Petunia. Like what are you doing, sir?
Get it together?

Speaker 2 (02:11:22):
That you're making me wonder that?

Speaker 1 (02:11:23):
Like later on, did they have another like argument, because Platilia.

Speaker 2 (02:11:27):
Was like, why did you throw that china that I
got from.

Speaker 5 (02:11:32):
China from your grandmother, not mine, right from your mother?

Speaker 2 (02:11:39):
Yeah, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (02:11:42):
I just honestly, I just think it wasn't even a
matter of like there's no logic here in terms of, oh,
this person has a wand and I have ornaments. I
think it's it's literally it's just chaos. It's just panic
at this point, like there's rationale has left the building, Okay,
Like I don't not even whatever fireplace was blown up,

(02:12:04):
Like Rahal was just like he like looked back and
he was like, you know what, y'all, I'm out.

Speaker 2 (02:12:08):
Okay, that's just.

Speaker 3 (02:12:12):
Instead we have panic at the that question run and
think there's no thinking here.

Speaker 1 (02:12:19):
They're just reacting. Like at this point, everybody is just reacting.
Thinking is not a thing right now.

Speaker 4 (02:12:29):
He just and and then so my I was reading
through there and then it says it says ornaments, and
I was like, this is summertime, why are there Christmas ornaments?
But it's not Christmas ornaments. It's China figurines.

Speaker 3 (02:12:42):
So like fancy stuff that Petunia is collecting.

Speaker 7 (02:12:45):
Like knit knacks trot skis right, she's pissed, but you know,
you know that he fixed it.

Speaker 4 (02:12:59):
Yeah, yeah, don't touch it. It's just my pretty easy.
You know he fixed everything though, because it says there
that he reared back and got ready to chunk the
third ornament and then mister Weasley blasted it out of
his hand?

Speaker 5 (02:13:18):
Yo?

Speaker 4 (02:13:19):
What is he doing?

Speaker 2 (02:13:22):
I'm not no, I'm not mad at it's this man's face.

Speaker 1 (02:13:25):
I don't care you throwing stuff at me like I'm
gonna defend myself.

Speaker 5 (02:13:29):
He was already discussed that blasting is apparently his first,
you know, reaction to everything. So let's just blast that
out of his hand.

Speaker 4 (02:13:38):
That's his first thing he.

Speaker 2 (02:13:39):
Could have He could have went when Guardium.

Speaker 3 (02:13:45):
Yeah, he was giving the same energy Vernon was giving him.

Speaker 1 (02:13:50):
Yeah, mister was like, well now he said, you want
you want to play y'all want to play it?

Speaker 2 (02:13:58):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (02:13:59):
But I am one hundred percent on Arthur's side with
that bit.

Speaker 2 (02:14:04):
Every time I read this chapter, I'm so sad it
was not in the movie.

Speaker 1 (02:14:08):
I'm like, you rob us of this.

Speaker 3 (02:14:12):
This is comedic gold.

Speaker 4 (02:14:15):
But you know, pieces, yes.

Speaker 2 (02:14:17):
They're gonta give it us ten minutes.

Speaker 4 (02:14:19):
But you know, pieces of that that chin to it.
You know it like trapnel probably blasted in his face.
If he's blasting it, you know, good explain that you
know it exploded in his face.

Speaker 2 (02:14:32):
I can't has way more empathy than like the rest
of us. We're just like and.

Speaker 3 (02:14:39):
That's what you get.

Speaker 4 (02:14:39):
I mean, I didn't say he didn't deserve it.

Speaker 3 (02:14:42):
If you all sandle the heat, stay out of the kid.

Speaker 1 (02:14:45):
That's the same way like if if you start throwing,
because like it's like that whole thing of I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:14:53):
I feel like if someone if someone does something first.

Speaker 1 (02:14:57):
And then like you clap back, and then your clap
back was better, and then now they're all upset. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no,
I thought you wanted to do this exactly. I'm like,
I'm like, you need you need to comfort pared. I'm like,
you need to ask yourself do you really want to
do this.

Speaker 5 (02:15:11):
It's like if someone punches you, you immediately try to
punch back. You're not worried about breaking their nose. You
just want to put yeah, And he is like, yeah,
blasting this cup out, it's not getting thrown out.

Speaker 3 (02:15:25):
Yeah, Yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (02:15:27):
Don't care whether it's close to your face or not.

Speaker 3 (02:15:30):
Arthur was tired.

Speaker 5 (02:15:32):
I don't care if it makes you blind.

Speaker 3 (02:15:33):
I can fix that.

Speaker 4 (02:15:35):
Yeah, we can't make you not have glasses in the
wistarding world.

Speaker 1 (02:15:39):
This is also after he just waited some disrespecting Harry too,
so I also feel like like he like he came
there because remember this is this is big hair Week.
Oh my god, I watched ten Things I Hate About
You lately and you know, like at the end when
the girl Bianca.

Speaker 3 (02:15:57):
No, I've never seen it, stop what I know?

Speaker 2 (02:16:03):
Okay, Okay, I will, I will it.

Speaker 3 (02:16:06):
It's actually ironically on my list to watch it because
people keep referencing it and I'm like, okay, I need
to watch this like now and find out what the
hype is about.

Speaker 1 (02:16:15):
So yeah, let me know how you like it, because
I feel like I don't know if I were watching
it for the very first time, like at the age
I am, I don't know if it would be the
same is when I started watching it when I was
like a teenager.

Speaker 2 (02:16:26):
So let me know, let me know how you like it.

Speaker 1 (02:16:29):
But but yeah, I feel like we're talking about big
mister Weasley right like this, He's he's being.

Speaker 2 (02:16:34):
The bigger person.

Speaker 1 (02:16:35):
So he's already coming in like I've heard the rumors,
but my kids are probably exaggerating. They're not really treating
this kid this horribly. And then they don't even tell
Harry Bye. They won't even tell Harry By. So at
that point they already like big mister Weasley already is now.

Speaker 2 (02:16:51):
Like medium mister Wes. Okay, he's already come down like
wait minute, wait minute. So at this point, y'all end through.

Speaker 1 (02:16:59):
Y'all threw three things that need the fact that he
even waited until the third one to blast, I'm like,
because you would have thrown one thing at me, and
I would have been like, okay, let's play.

Speaker 3 (02:17:12):
Yeah, oh this is what we're doing.

Speaker 4 (02:17:14):
Okay, my version of a wind would have come out. Yes, yeah, exactly,
I ain't got one. You know what I'm playing.

Speaker 2 (02:17:23):
With her old wine, just like pull back.

Speaker 4 (02:17:29):
Do it again.

Speaker 3 (02:17:31):
I'm sorry, did you have a problem.

Speaker 4 (02:17:34):
I am a hoffle puff. Yeah exactly, we can go.
We can go here. I bet you I'll be faster
than you.

Speaker 3 (02:17:41):
I bet bet like he could show he showed some restraint.

Speaker 4 (02:17:48):
I didn't do that.

Speaker 7 (02:17:49):
Y'all.

Speaker 4 (02:17:49):
We need to go. We need to Taylor. We have
I'm now doing faux Ninja moves over here. Taylor. You
have had such insight in solving all of our problems
we've had here. Thank you for being on this show,

(02:18:10):
our evid listener, Taylor, thank you for having me. Thank
you so much for being our guest. And I know
there was one thing that you did want to say
to our listeners, So if you would like to do that,
go right ahead right now.

Speaker 5 (02:18:22):
Oh yes, I just instead of promoting any socials or whatever,
I just wanted to encourage people to vote. Every election,
no matter how big or small, is very important, no
matter what side of the al you're on, So just
get out there and vote.

Speaker 4 (02:18:35):
That is an excellent reminder. Thank you, Taylors.

Speaker 3 (02:18:38):
Thank you so much for being here. It was it
was fun. You actually, like every time we go through
these chapters and we have a new guest with a
new perspective, they bring up something that I've never thought
about in like, however many decades, So thank you for that.
But that is fantastic.

Speaker 5 (02:18:56):
I've always wanted to be on a podcast, so thank
you for helping me check something off my bucket list.

Speaker 4 (02:19:01):
Yeah, that's good and I'm glad it was this one
because you knew exactly what you were talking about the
whole time. I love it.

Speaker 5 (02:19:10):
Yes, yes, I had a great time. I'm enjoying myself.

Speaker 3 (02:19:14):
Well we did too. And when we gather again, we
will be discussing chapter twenty two of The Deathly Hallows.
The title chapter the Deathly Hallows.

Speaker 1 (02:19:25):
Oh wow, my brain is like, is that you know?
Like you hear the chapter? I only try to like
guess which one it is?

Speaker 2 (02:19:32):
But is that No? I don't know which one that is.
It's fine. I'll just listen to the episode listeners.

Speaker 3 (02:19:41):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (02:19:41):
That's why plug go listen to the episode. I'll listen
along with you.

Speaker 5 (02:19:45):
Yeah.

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Speaker 4 (02:21:32):
So yes, and then they're continuing to look down. Sorry
that was Let me say that again, because my book
just scraped, which also you guys, I sent it in
the group chat. Yes, but I had to rent it
because all of my book we just moved again and
all of my books are in storage and I don't

(02:21:54):
know where they are, so I went to the local
library and got my very first library car to ever
and rented the illustrated version and it is so cool,
like I love it. I So I have the first
three books illustrated and I've never opened them. So because
I am afraid to open the fourth one, I'll open

(02:22:15):
the fourth one because I've rented it. It's not mine, yes,
so I don't mind. But so yeah, and then we see,
you know, him being a third herd herd hed hed
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