March 25, 2025 • 28 mins
Recap of Episode 18 of Australian Survivor Brains V Brawn 2
A Line In The Sand
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Hello and welcome to American TalkAustralian survivor I'm Rachel.
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I'm Leah. And I'm Matt.
Thanks for joining us.
We just watched episode 18 of AustralianSurvivor.
Brains versus brawn two.
And there will be spoilers ahead.
We open up on the evening after tribal,where Myles has played the idol,
and he says he is back on the bottombecause everyone realizes
how good of a playerhe is right. Now, and he really is,
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because he had three idolsand he played them all correctly.
This is crazy.
It's amazing to be able to do thatthree times.
His game playing in real
life is really coming outto help him in this game, I think.
Yeah, he is making his mark on this.
On the season of survivor. He sure is.
So Zahra and Kristen are talkingand they're saying we absolutely
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have to get out.
Miles and AJ, they just can't go that far.
They're controlling the game.
I feel like we've heard that before.Right.
We'll see what happens for this episode.
Then it turns outwe're all ready on day 36. Wow.
And the night after or the day
after the vote, we see Kaitlyntalking that he has a couple buddies.
He says that he is close with Kristen.
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AJ, and Myles.
So remember when the buddy systemwas first introduced to us,
we've kind of been sayingwho exactly is Kaitlyn's buddy?
And it sounds like he thinks thathe has three, so that's nice.
But it does seem like he talksto all three of them like Christian is
someone new, but well, at least AJ,you seem to be very close to AJ,
don't you agree?
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Yeah, so he does seem to be positioned ata pretty good spot in the game currently.
Right.
And Mylesgives some some interesting information.
Myles tells Kaitlyn that AJ tipped him offlast night at the tribal.
At the tribal yeah about playing his idol.
So it is interesting that Kaitlyn is privyto that information that you would think
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would be kind of excluded for just AJ
and Myles, but Kaitlyn certainlyseems to be breaking into that duo.
Yes he is.
He's saying though, that the graduatesalliance is falling apart
because of Karen.
She is not working with them.
And Karen is really focusedon breaking up Kate
and working to weaken AJ Myles.
And I guess that Kaitlyn as well.
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Yeah.
So her plan is to get out KateMorgan or Kate and then AJ and then Myles.
Is her plan.Those are the next three votes.
She thinks so. That's good.
Having a plan. That is a long term plan.
Yeah.
It is interesting though how Kaitlyn'stalking about how the graduates
are dissolving when I feel likethey haven't voted together in while.
Yeah, for a very long time.
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But I guess it's I don't know.
Everyone is going after each other,but not necessarily upfront.
So maybe when they walk by each other,there's still pretending
like they're in the graduates.
It's interesting that this alliance nameis lasting so long.
Yes. Whatever happened to the woman's,
what was a Girls Gone Wild alliancethat left a long time ago?
I guess it seems like one episode or two,it. Right?
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Right. Didn't stick around too long.
But it seems like many times.
And in survivor,the shows that we've watched,
the series that we watched, it's always,the guys are going to get together,
the women are going to get togetherand they're going to go all the way.
And it very seldom if ever happens.
That's true.
Well now we get to the reward challengeand we see
that the pairs are having to,they're tied to these things.
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They have to stack the blocksthen knock them over like dominoes.
Yeah.
And the dominoesI mean not only do you stack them up
but then you have to make them go downlike dominoes.
This is some challenge.
It's a tough reward because you're workingwith another person.
So they have to be good and not drop.
But something I was pretty unhappy aboutwas that they had Logan sit out.
And so I'm thinking,why would you do a reward in pairs
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when you know that you have not even them,right? Yeah.
You got to save them for nextepisode, right?
Is Wade an episode or do itthe one before?
It doesn't. It doesn't make sense.
Like they didn't realize it or something.
And someone's going to have to sit out.Well, wow. Why?
So she has no chance of going.
And then I thought at the end,maybe she'll get a chance to go right.
But you're right.
I didn't even think about that,
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that they should nothave had this challenge
when they have unevennumber of candidates.
Or we have an uneven number of candidates,the person who gets picked
automatically goes.
Oh. Yeah, and then you'd be like,I hope I get the right.
I get the one that the rock.Yeah, exactly.
Well usually. Yeah.
Usually when someone sits out,it's like they get to choose a pair or
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who they think is going to win.
Then they get, oh yeah, reward if that.
You know, something like that.
I feel like they should have. Yeah.
Yeah.
But Logan was just sitting there
on the sidelines cheering for everyonebecause she had no stake in it.
So a little odd, start to the reward.
But in the reward was a roastand trimmings.
Yeah.
So a spit. Roast, right? Oh, yes.
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I don't know what that means.
I guess it's on a spit, right?
It sounded good.
So the unique thing about this is,you know,
we've seen a lot of these challengeswhere you have to kind of
hold on to the rope and you walk outand you put your, blocks on.
Then at the end they kind of tie it off.
So that was kind of a little bitdifferent.
Yeah. Yeah, that looks.
Very hard tying it off.
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They didn't really show us a close upof exactly what they had to do.
But yeah,I guess they just wrapped their cord
around it a bunch of times or something.I don't know.
But so then when you let go,you hope that it doesn't go down an inch
and mess up your whole domino effect.
Yeah.
So a lot of people are getting close.
A lot of people are dropping.
JLP kept yelling out, it's a disaster.
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Yeah.
So he thought it was a disastrous record.
But finally we, you know, see that,who was it?
Kate and Zara were going in.
They had dropped it all and we're like,oh my gosh,
of course they're going to win.
It's you know,slow and steady wins the race.
And they're about to go backand tie off their ropes.
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And AJ and Kristen come out of nowhereand win the whole chat.
Oh yes.
Well wait I want to go back.
One thing.
AJ had dropped a yes a block in.
Logan. Logan help them.
I thought that was interesting.
Very nice. Of her.
Yes, but it seems likein another episode, reward.
Someone could help someone.
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No one did.
So that was interestingthat she helped them.
But anyway, you should notice.
That she was kind of cheering on everyone.
She directly helped AJ,
but she was telling everyone, you know,good job skills and stuff like that.
So I wonder if she was just playingall sides
trying to get invited to the roast.
Oh, maybe.
Right. Well, it was a great challenge.
I don't get the impressionthat she would have not helped anyone else
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and that she was just helping AJ.
She just happened to helpAJ because he needed help.
That's what I think.
But I mean, she's probably a very niceperson and wanted to help somebody win.
Well, it worked out to her advantage.
Yes, AJ and Kristen
are told that they get to pick two peopleto come to the roast with them.
So first they pick Kaitlyn because he hasbeen the longest without a reward.
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And then AJ said that next personis going to pick, what did he say?
It looked likeshe was on death's door the other day.
So they choose Logan,which is quite something to say
to someonewho just like you out at the challenge.
Hey friend.
I don't think Logan's been lookingthat bad.
I think she looks bad at all. Not.
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I wouldn't say she's on death's door.
She was pretty down when she was gone.
Out, but she does.
She looks great for 36 days being out.
I mean, my gosh, they all look great.
If you ask me.
They must be getting some helpbecause it seems like in the beginning
of all these survivor shows,people had all kinds of skin disorders
and stuff like that,and it doesn't seem like people
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and their hair remember, their hairdidn't always look so nice.
I hear they wash their face with sand.
Well, I guess it's doing good things, so.
Oh, but when it feeds up.
Some hacks on the way.
What do you think about that face?
They had everything that was amazing.
It was looked like there was enough foodfor the entire tribe.
Right? Right.
There is a lot of foodand it looked great.
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They were all really enjoying it.
Kaitlyn especially eating the legs.
That bowl of peas was huge. Yeah.
And when they pass thatand then the carrots looked great.
Yeah.
It was like for us in the United States,America Thanksgiving.
Yeah. So then AJ tells us his strategy.
So everyone pay attentionif you're ever going to go on survivor.
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He says the way to win
is that you let other people pitch thingsand let them think it's their idea.
And we see him do just that.
Logan is the first oneto kind of bring up strategy
at this point, and she pitches Cochran.
So she said that Corinne'scontrolling the game and shares the detail
that Karen is the one who told Loganto play the idol, at that one vote.
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So that was kind of a big secret to why.
Richie backstab me like that.
I don't know, she helped her out. Why?
It was horrible.
Yeah, I'm trying to figure outwhy Logan turned on Cochran.
I mean, Cochran was playing,
you know, she was in control of the game,but she was helping Logan, right?
She's like all the females.It seemed to me.
Is it suffocating? Morgan?
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Is it just to gain the trust of thethe new berries?
The berries? Yeah.
What happened?
There was supposed to belike the cranberries,
but then AJ just wanted the berries,so I don't know what happened there.
Maybe he didn't like the group.
Isn't there group?
Musical group, the cranberries.
I think that'swhat they were supposed to be called out.
Yeah,but they changed their mind. Yeah, right.
Yeah.
Well, then there's AJ.
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Not living up to his his advice.
Somebody else comes up with an idea.
Let him go with it. Yeah.
Just go with cranberries.
It's like it's only a couple of days.
Well, I was just surprised about Logan.
So they decide to call themselvesthe Four Berries.
Yeah.
So their plan is that they want to dothree votes on and three votes on Zara.
And then their guess is that current Zaraand I guess Myles will all vote
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for someone else.
And then whatever happens, it'll bea three, three, three split on the revote.
They're all going to vote out card.
But it's interesting thatthey're not going to tell Myles the plan.
They think that he's a little bittoo much of a chatterbox.
And so we're really seeing the separationof AJ and Myles in their games.
Because this is now the second episode
where they haven't really beenon the same wavelength with the plan.
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Yes, we'll talk about that more laterafter the immunity challenge.
Right.
All right.
So then we get goingto the immunity challenge.
So we see that this is quitethe challenge.
They have to do one of those backwardsrolls on a barrel.
And then they have to roll their barrel.
Then they have to throw something.The 3 pound rope.
Yeah. And finally.
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Oh yeah, there's so much more onthe ends in a puzzle.
Right.Throwing that rope is obviously the.
Oh yeah. The part the monkey.
Not while. We're talking. Yeah.
The interesting thingis that another weird thing
about a challenge this episodeI have another complaint for JLP.
I hope you're listening.
But they stopped the challenge.
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It's like only five peoplemake it to the first round,
and then another threemake it to the last round.
Why not just have the whole challengego and see who wins?
I don't know why we're stopping people.
Oh, that's a good idea.
But the challenge didn't stop and restart.
That's what I thought was going to happen.
Like the first people to get to this pointand then we stop.
Then we have another raceto the next point and then. Right.
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They didn't do itthat way. It's just like, keep on going.
Oh you're done. Right? Yeah. No.
Why even bother?
Just let everyone go to the endand see what happens.
I mean, why do we keep stopping?
I'm like that.
Yeah. Yeah. I agree with you, Rachel.
Let him go all the way to the endand see who makes the puzzle the fastest.
Yeah, I mean, who cares, you know? Right?
I could tell that there probably wasn'tgoing to win when she was spending.
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So long on the, barrel.
She fell off the barrel right at the end,which is disappointing.
And she had to go back.
You know, I felt bad. There she is.
You know, I'm so far behind.
Well, the first threeto get a walk on those barrels
and land the three bags were Kaitlyn.
Kaitlyn did it pretty quickly.
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AJ took a little while and then Morgan
and I'm like,what happened to Logan Mapper?
Logan was right there and then,but she did come in and then Kristen.
But Logan should have been therelike before.
AJ right now, which is interestingand took her a little longer.
Right. Those were the top five.
Yeah.
So then they had to do thatreally difficult toss.
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Before they could get on the beam.
And we see Kaitlyn got it.
I mean it took up a while, buthe was by far the first one to get the,
get to the next step.
Yeah. Did you see the puzzle?
He was like a cowboythe way you, throwing that rope.
That was pretty cool, right?Everyone else threw it.
Like all of us would throw it.
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Yeah, like he gets better now.
Like that, right? Oh, boy.
So maybe that was interesting.
Well, now we know if you ever go onsurvivor, that's the way to.
Throw it, right?
Right. Practice with a monkey fist.
Yeah. Right. Yeah.
So the weird thing about thisnow is Kaitlyn is on the other side
of that triangle, so no one can seewhere is that in the puzzle.
And he waves over jail pins,says, don't tell them.
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I don't want them to knowthat I'm good at the puzzle.
And I'm thinking,well, it's day 36, maybe 37 by now.
Doesn't matter if you're right.
I mean, that's something you keep a secret
at a different stage of the game,or we're nine left.
It doesn't matter. Right?
It doesn't seem to make sense toto say that, I mean, just win the game.
Well, Jonathan is kind oflaughing about it, right?
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And he shrugged his shoulders like, okay,okay.
Yeah, yeah.I don't know. Whatever you see.
Yeah, I see why.
Kaitlyn I mean, he's definitelymaking himself a challenge beast.
And he could be seen as a threat,but he was going to win this one.
You know, by the time we got tothe puzzle, he was going to win it.
Right?
So either win itor don't don't tell JLP to get involved
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and tell the players something else. Yeah.It was very strange.
Just slow downuntil you have three pieces left.
When somebody comes over the wall, startmoving them around a little bit
and then let them start on their puzzleand then win the game.
Well, we saw that, other two peoplethat joined Kaitlyn was Morgan and AJ,
and while Morgan was trying to get downfrom that, hill,
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Kaitlyn pulled aside and helped her.
That was kind.
And J.
Jonathan even said something about that.
So he was not hustling the puzzle.
Done. No,And he even lost a piece there at the end.
It was still in his bag and he didn't.
So you can't act about itand it didn't have an impact.
He won, far ahead of anyone else.
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So congratulations, Kaitlyn.
On his thirdindividual immunity of the season.
Well, who was.
Who was it that yelled, look in your bag?
There was a femaleand I thought it. Was a Logan.
I don't know, maybe. Yeah.
And I'm thinking, how long would it have taken
if if they hadn't said that,what would what would he.
I guess he would have lookedpretty quickly.
You look under the table.
All right. Yeah.And then you're. Good. Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
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I think it's a pretty smart person. Right.
Is working on his PhD.
Yeah I think all right, well,either way, it's pretty impressive.
Very impressive.
Well, then it istime to head back to camp to scramble.
So AJ wants to as all set on the berriesplan to get out.
Cochran and Kristen.
However, as a Berryis not so keen on the idea,
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she's saying that Cochran is,better for her game
because they have some trust,whereas Zora isn't really going to benefit
Kristen's game. Yeah they don't.She's a little bit more of a threat.
Yeah.
And she's a threat for theindividual challenges which we've seen.
So Kristen goes to the other girls.
She goes to Kate and Morgan pitchesthe idea of voting Sara out.
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And they say no.
So you that was kind of a shortconversation there.
Yeah.
This wholeall these conversations were so strange.
And this is when we see Miles scramblingand no one's talking to him.
He's trying to talk to AJ about the thing.
You do your thing.I do your thing. Oh, you can tell me.
So we don't do the same thing?
No. Yeah. It was so strange. Yeah.
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And yeah, it was.
Nobody wanted to hear his plan.
Well I thought it was very odd, but
AJ was like, well,I won't tell you until Tribal Council.
Yeah.
I'm thinkingif I'm Miles, I'm thinking, well,
if you're not going to tell me,then maybe I'm the plan.
I'm going to go out and find the idoland play it for myself.
Exactly.
Which I guess wouldn't have had an effecton AJ's plan, but it would
make Miles have looked pretty good to playanother idol, you know what I mean?
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Like, it just seems likewhy not just let him in on the plan?
Yeah, right.
Well, he's afraid he'd tell Karen.
Well, Mileshad another trick up the sleeve.
He had a plan that he wanted Zora out.
So this is very interesting,because for the berries,
Zora is obviously the second vote.
She's the backupthat Kristen had wanted out.
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Anyway, Kristen was tryingto make the switch from car into Zora,
and now you're walks upmiles pitching that exact idea.
Yeah.
That's just funny
how there's two different groupsvoting for the same person.
Yeah. That's it's unusual.
Yeah.
So it's looking at this point,
like Kristen is going to bethe decision maker at this vote.
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So she's flipping it now from A3332A432.
Well I guess Miles is doing that to A432.
However Logan is the onewho spills the beans on it, not Miles.
Logan comes back over to Agent Katelyn andsays, you know, we've got a big problem.
Miles is voting for Zora.
Now we all have to switch up our votes.
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I don't know. It's it was like.
It was like the very next shot.
Like she was telling them, you know, theymade it seem like it was a second later.
Yeah.
It reminds me of.
Who was it on the brains tribe?
I think it was Ali who had just, like,sprint over to tell people
the plans after she.
Oh that's right. Yeah, I'm very low,but there.
Well, AJ decidesto take matters into his own hands.
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He tells Miles your plans dead.
Don't worry about. It. Oh, geez.
That's kind of partner.
Yeah.So an interesting way of working together.
But AJ is saying that he is goingto win the game if he sees. No.
No way that he can't win.
He cannot use.
I'm thinking, wow that's confidence.
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Yeah. Nine players left and he is.
He sees no way to lose.
Well meanwhileKristen goes to talks to Karen
and tells her that,they're going to vote her out.
Right? Yeah.
So Kristen'sreally telling a lot of secrets here.
She said, if you want to save yourself,you have to vote for Zahra.
Which I don't know is necessarily true,because from what I'm understanding,
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Kristen and Milesare going to vote for Zahra.
And then I think the plan was still forKate and Morgan to vote for her as well.
So it's still beforeand then B three on Corin
and then or Catanzaro would votefor whoever they wanted to probably keep
and that was it.
So she didn't necessarily have to tell herthat she had to slip on Zora
because she didn't.
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There was enough votes
going other placesthat the four on Zahra would have done it.
Yeah, it would have been a blindsideon Zahra, but she told her anyway.
And then we head in.
The tribal really waited untilthe last minute to break the news to her.
Right?
And then Polly walks inwith its open shirt.
I know he's lost his beard.
He just has a mustache.And he. That necklace thing.
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Yeah, yeah yeah.
Yeah, yeah, Polly looked great.
I'm excited to see the rest of us out.Right.
I know, and they're like, oh,he looks mad.
Yeah. Yeah.
And they were excitedto see how he looked.
They're all like the way it looked.
Yeah this is fun right.
Some hooting and hollering. Woo yeah yeah.
Well Khan is not there for a fashion show.
She is there to play the game.
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So she comes out. Mad.
And she says you knowokay Morgan, you're a shield for AJ.
You're not allies.
And I thought that was a pretty good
point, that, allies and shields are different things.
And Kate and Morgan seem to think,oh, no, it's not a big deal.
Like,I wouldn't really engage in discussion,
but I thought that was a good point.Right?
It is interesting.
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Morgan and, Kate, do they just shut down?
They don't they don't try to get involvedin someone else's business.
I guess they want if you want a reactionfrom them, they're not giving it to you.
Yeah.
Very interesting.Yeah. Like a. Poker face.
Which is a great job.
Yeah. Right. Didthey learn it from the information.
They did. Yeah. The player.
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And then Corrin calls for that sidebarwhich I thought was interesting.
Oh my god.
Yeah.
Let's have a chat Kaitlyn two right.
Yeah. Kaitlyn, Zara Logan.
Kristen and herself. Yeah, yeah.
So that. Yeah.
So she says,let's all head on over here for a chat.
And so I thought that was funbecause this is survivor, you know, people
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getting up and whispering at tribaland there was all this chaos.
Why not Myles.
Why didn't she bring Myles in?
I think she just really dislikes him.
Yeah but Myles was wanted to workwith her.
RememberAJ was trying to get her out before
and Myles said it wasn't in his game.
He likes chaos.
Wants to work with her rightI don't know what the.
Issue is that Myles and AJ are too close.
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I think Karen didn't think that Myleswas going to break away from AJ.
She doesn't know that Myles is leftout of the plan right.
She that's true. That's true.
But I think if she says to to Myleshey we're going to do XYZ.
He's just going to walk right over there
and look at her and gohey they're doing x y z.
Yeah. Right.
And then it wasprobably going to be on AJ right.
Yeah yeah. So it wouldn't have worked.
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So I think she knew enough notto call Myles because they'll just blab.
Well I think Khan did.
Yeah I think Khan did a good job here.
So she's sayingbasically the votes are coming on me.
If anyone plays an idolI'm the one at risk.
So you have no, you know,it's a risk mitigation situation.
You have no reason not to vote with me.
We'll make an alliance right here.
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We will all be the majority,and that'll be that.
So I thought it was a decent pitch,but she didn't seem to be.
She was not able to nail homewhy it would be advantageous
to those people to vote for Myles,who was her selected target.
She explained how it would not be a riskto work with her, but she didn't say why
it would benefit them.
Well, she didn't have much timeto put this all together.
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And then I'm just thinking that'swhat made it fall.
Was this a timewhen they're over there in their chat?
Then AJ's talk indicates Morganand then Myles
is sitting there by himself,and then Jonathan saying, well.
You know when he jokes, yeah. Yeah.
That was funny.
But then Kaz turns and talks to everybodyright? Yep.
And she says that she's playingRussian roulette.
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Right.
She said the gun is pointing at her andshe's going to see who she can get out.
So she's putting on a good show.
You know, she's, moving around tribal.
She's has some good analogies, and she'smaking it entertaining for the viewer.
But I feel like, like we said, she doesn'tshe didn't have enough time
to put it all together.
So it's just not quite clicking right.
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You know, like, it's it's a good pitch,but it's not.
There's nothing behind it.There's no substance to the pitch.
I wonder if she thoughtthis through beforehand
or did it just come to her to kind ofas she was walking there
as they were,you know, traveling to tribal council?
I think her only opportunitywas to think of it at Tribal Council,
because Kristen told her the plan secondsbefore they left, it looked like.
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Right,I see what you're saying. Yep. Okay.
And she seemed really, caught off guardwhen Kristen told her,
oh yeah, she was the vote.
I don't think she was thinkingabout this ahead of time.
Yeah, she was livid at AJ,but yeah, not enough time to get them
to work out a plan. Yeah.
So then Karen throws a lot of chaos.
Unfortunately, Kaitlyn says
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he doesn't know where he's voting yet,and it looks like it's all falling apart.
It doesn't feel likeshe has the strength behind her,
said Karen gets into the voting booth
and interestingly enough, writes downZara's name.
She did this whole big presentation
because she didn'twant to turn on her number one
and there she isvoting for her number one.
Yeah, I was very, very surprised by that.
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Confused, I guess.
Yeah.
I guess she just felt,you know, it's not going to work.
She tried to blow up the game.It didn't happen.
And now
she has to go into self-preservation modeand either vote out Zara or herself.
So she's saying, you know, it didn't work.
I'll vote out Zara.
Right?
It's like,if I know she's getting some votes,
why don't I add one more in the hopesthat I don't get as many, right?
Yeah. She realized that Miles wasn't goinghome, right? Yeah.
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No one's for the plan.So why would I vote that way?
So when it comes time to read outthe votes, Myles gets one vote
from Zara and then Zara, I think.
Did she get through?
I think three of the three votes.
And then there were fivesending car and home.
So disappointing.
She was my winnerpick from the very beginning.
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And she made it down to the final 8 or 9.
While I.
Rachel, you picked a good person.
I mean, she really played this game.
I kind of figured, like she was Kirby.
I keep talking about last season, but,she knew her stuff, just like Kirby did.
And I just think it's a shame.
I'm very upset. I'm very sad.
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I think she is an excellent playerand it's a shame they voted her out.
She was a brain.She was on the brains. Wow.
But she was athletic too. Yeah.
I mean, she had both. Yeah.
Yeah, she. Was very fun to watch. Yes.
And she was constantly thinking like Milesand AJ I guess.
But I don't knowI just so sad to see her go.
(24:53):
Yeah it's disappointing.She played a great game.
So I guess we'll just have to settlefor seeing her on the jury,
even though I would like to see hercausing chaos at camp a little bit longer.
But I don't understandwhy everyone turned on her.
I just just because AJ wanted her out.
Oh, why?
I don't ever see, Logan's.
Why did Logan want her out?
(25:16):
Yeah, I still don't get that.
Something happened with Loganat the reward challenge.
Is it just because Logan was pickedto go on the berries?
Reward?
I don't know,but she brought that as we were.
Yeah, but she came up, right?
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, because Cochran saved Loganthere, right?
Laura would have been on the campand Logan
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would have been on the juryhad Corey not saved Logan.
And she turned aroundand stabbed her in the back, right?
Yeah. That was pretty sad.
Well, I guess Logan just had toseparate herself and make her own moves.
Maybe she thought that she would be inKaren's shadow if she stuck with her.
I don't know, but why?
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Disappointing to see.
Yeah, I feel myself. Yes.
Going down and down in this podcast,getting smarter and smarter.
So there I will.
That's why I sound like this.
I just really liked her.
But it's really fun to watch.
Hopefully she'll be on another seasonone day.
Yeah. I'm wondering,I hope so. What about you, Matt?
What do you think.
I'm still voting for Myles now. Right?
So. Right.
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Jungle, right?
Right.
I think he has a chanceto get to the end.
Yeah.
It seems like AJ, Karen and Mylesseem to be the three people
that really stand out this season.
Do you guys agree? Right.
They were playing the game right.
Constantly playing the.
Game I don't feel like Kaitlyn'snecessarily playing the game.
He's just a good athlete.
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No I think he's but he's playing.
But yeah he's he'sthese three people really stand out right.
They're ultra players. Right?Mega players.
They are mega players. Macom yeah.
Logan, I would sayis playing the game in the sense
that she's always about to be voted outand seems to keep surviving,
but I think that AJ and Corinand Myles are playing better games. Hey.
(27:02):
But she could get oh more.
Logan's been trying to get AJ outsince like day five or something,
so it seems like Logan
has not achieved what she wanted.
I don't know, it'sjust a very would have helped her.
Yeah.
Oh wow. What was a another great episode
I Australian survivorsjust wonderful to watch.
(27:25):
Very entertaining. Fun.
Well I wonder what's going to happenin the next episode.
Oh, it looked like a lot. What's going.
On? Yeah, except for.
So the previews were intriguing, right?
So if you understandwhy Logan flipped on Corin,
please let us know,because we can't figure it out.
Maybe we missed something in the episode.
Please write in to us on Instagramat Survivor, TikTok
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at survivor, or send us an email at eight,Australian Survivor and at gmail.com.
And let us know what is Logan doing?
Why did you vote out Karen?
And are you just as sadas us to see her going home?
Thanks.And we'll see you next week. Bye bye. Bye.
Hello and welcome to American TalkAustralian survivor I'm Rachel.
(00:03):
I'm Leah. And I'm Matt.
Thanks for joining us.
We just watched episode 18 of AustralianSurvivor.
Brains versus brawn two.
And there will be spoilers ahead.
We open up on the evening after tribal,where Myles has played the idol,
and he says he is back on the bottombecause everyone realizes
how good of a playerhe is right. Now, and he really is,
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because he had three idolsand he played them all correctly.
This is crazy.
It's amazing to be able to do thatthree times.
His game playing in real
life is really coming outto help him in this game, I think.
Yeah, he is making his mark on this.
On the season of survivor. He sure is.
So Zahra and Kristen are talkingand they're saying we absolutely
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have to get out.
Miles and AJ, they just can't go that far.
They're controlling the game.
I feel like we've heard that before.Right.
We'll see what happens for this episode.
Then it turns outwe're all ready on day 36. Wow.
And the night after or the day
after the vote, we see Kaitlyntalking that he has a couple buddies.
He says that he is close with Kristen.
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AJ, and Myles.
So remember when the buddy systemwas first introduced to us,
we've kind of been sayingwho exactly is Kaitlyn's buddy?
And it sounds like he thinks thathe has three, so that's nice.
But it does seem like he talksto all three of them like Christian is
someone new, but well, at least AJ,you seem to be very close to AJ,
don't you agree?
(01:26):
Yeah, so he does seem to be positioned ata pretty good spot in the game currently.
Right.
And Mylesgives some some interesting information.
Myles tells Kaitlyn that AJ tipped him offlast night at the tribal.
At the tribal yeah about playing his idol.
So it is interesting that Kaitlyn is privyto that information that you would think
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would be kind of excluded for just AJ
and Myles, but Kaitlyn certainlyseems to be breaking into that duo.
Yes he is.
He's saying though, that the graduatesalliance is falling apart
because of Karen.
She is not working with them.
And Karen is really focusedon breaking up Kate
and working to weaken AJ Myles.
And I guess that Kaitlyn as well.
(02:09):
Yeah.
So her plan is to get out KateMorgan or Kate and then AJ and then Myles.
Is her plan.Those are the next three votes.
She thinks so. That's good.
Having a plan. That is a long term plan.
Yeah.
It is interesting though how Kaitlyn'stalking about how the graduates
are dissolving when I feel likethey haven't voted together in while.
Yeah, for a very long time.
(02:29):
But I guess it's I don't know.
Everyone is going after each other,but not necessarily upfront.
So maybe when they walk by each other,there's still pretending
like they're in the graduates.
It's interesting that this alliance nameis lasting so long.
Yes. Whatever happened to the woman's,
what was a Girls Gone Wild alliancethat left a long time ago?
I guess it seems like one episode or two,it. Right?
(02:51):
Right. Didn't stick around too long.
But it seems like many times.
And in survivor,the shows that we've watched,
the series that we watched, it's always,the guys are going to get together,
the women are going to get togetherand they're going to go all the way.
And it very seldom if ever happens.
That's true.
Well now we get to the reward challengeand we see
that the pairs are having to,they're tied to these things.
(03:14):
They have to stack the blocksthen knock them over like dominoes.
Yeah.
And the dominoesI mean not only do you stack them up
but then you have to make them go downlike dominoes.
This is some challenge.
It's a tough reward because you're workingwith another person.
So they have to be good and not drop.
But something I was pretty unhappy aboutwas that they had Logan sit out.
And so I'm thinking,why would you do a reward in pairs
(03:36):
when you know that you have not even them,right? Yeah.
You got to save them for nextepisode, right?
Is Wade an episode or do itthe one before?
It doesn't. It doesn't make sense.
Like they didn't realize it or something.
And someone's going to have to sit out.Well, wow. Why?
So she has no chance of going.
And then I thought at the end,maybe she'll get a chance to go right.
But you're right.
I didn't even think about that,
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that they should nothave had this challenge
when they have unevennumber of candidates.
Or we have an uneven number of candidates,the person who gets picked
automatically goes.
Oh. Yeah, and then you'd be like,I hope I get the right.
I get the one that the rock.Yeah, exactly.
Well usually. Yeah.
Usually when someone sits out,it's like they get to choose a pair or
(04:17):
who they think is going to win.
Then they get, oh yeah, reward if that.
You know, something like that.
I feel like they should have. Yeah.
Yeah.
But Logan was just sitting there
on the sidelines cheering for everyonebecause she had no stake in it.
So a little odd, start to the reward.
But in the reward was a roastand trimmings.
Yeah.
So a spit. Roast, right? Oh, yes.
(04:39):
I don't know what that means.
I guess it's on a spit, right?
It sounded good.
So the unique thing about this is,you know,
we've seen a lot of these challengeswhere you have to kind of
hold on to the rope and you walk outand you put your, blocks on.
Then at the end they kind of tie it off.
So that was kind of a little bitdifferent.
Yeah. Yeah, that looks.
Very hard tying it off.
(05:01):
They didn't really show us a close upof exactly what they had to do.
But yeah,I guess they just wrapped their cord
around it a bunch of times or something.I don't know.
But so then when you let go,you hope that it doesn't go down an inch
and mess up your whole domino effect.
Yeah.
So a lot of people are getting close.
A lot of people are dropping.
JLP kept yelling out, it's a disaster.
(05:23):
Yeah.
So he thought it was a disastrous record.
But finally we, you know, see that,who was it?
Kate and Zara were going in.
They had dropped it all and we're like,oh my gosh,
of course they're going to win.
It's you know,slow and steady wins the race.
And they're about to go backand tie off their ropes.
(05:44):
And AJ and Kristen come out of nowhereand win the whole chat.
Oh yes.
Well wait I want to go back.
One thing.
AJ had dropped a yes a block in.
Logan. Logan help them.
I thought that was interesting.
Very nice. Of her.
Yes, but it seems likein another episode, reward.
Someone could help someone.
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No one did.
So that was interestingthat she helped them.
But anyway, you should notice.
That she was kind of cheering on everyone.
She directly helped AJ,
but she was telling everyone, you know,good job skills and stuff like that.
So I wonder if she was just playingall sides
trying to get invited to the roast.
Oh, maybe.
Right. Well, it was a great challenge.
I don't get the impressionthat she would have not helped anyone else
(06:27):
and that she was just helping AJ.
She just happened to helpAJ because he needed help.
That's what I think.
But I mean, she's probably a very niceperson and wanted to help somebody win.
Well, it worked out to her advantage.
Yes, AJ and Kristen
are told that they get to pick two peopleto come to the roast with them.
So first they pick Kaitlyn because he hasbeen the longest without a reward.
(06:47):
And then AJ said that next personis going to pick, what did he say?
It looked likeshe was on death's door the other day.
So they choose Logan,which is quite something to say
to someonewho just like you out at the challenge.
Hey friend.
I don't think Logan's been lookingthat bad.
I think she looks bad at all. Not.
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I wouldn't say she's on death's door.
She was pretty down when she was gone.
Out, but she does.
She looks great for 36 days being out.
I mean, my gosh, they all look great.
If you ask me.
They must be getting some helpbecause it seems like in the beginning
of all these survivor shows,people had all kinds of skin disorders
and stuff like that,and it doesn't seem like people
(07:28):
and their hair remember, their hairdidn't always look so nice.
I hear they wash their face with sand.
Well, I guess it's doing good things, so.
Oh, but when it feeds up.
Some hacks on the way.
What do you think about that face?
They had everything that was amazing.
It was looked like there was enough foodfor the entire tribe.
Right? Right.
There is a lot of foodand it looked great.
(07:49):
They were all really enjoying it.
Kaitlyn especially eating the legs.
That bowl of peas was huge. Yeah.
And when they pass thatand then the carrots looked great.
Yeah.
It was like for us in the United States,America Thanksgiving.
Yeah. So then AJ tells us his strategy.
So everyone pay attentionif you're ever going to go on survivor.
(08:10):
He says the way to win
is that you let other people pitch thingsand let them think it's their idea.
And we see him do just that.
Logan is the first oneto kind of bring up strategy
at this point, and she pitches Cochran.
So she said that Corinne'scontrolling the game and shares the detail
that Karen is the one who told Loganto play the idol, at that one vote.
(08:32):
So that was kind of a big secret to why.
Richie backstab me like that.
I don't know, she helped her out. Why?
It was horrible.
Yeah, I'm trying to figure outwhy Logan turned on Cochran.
I mean, Cochran was playing,
you know, she was in control of the game,but she was helping Logan, right?
She's like all the females.It seemed to me.
Is it suffocating? Morgan?
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Is it just to gain the trust of thethe new berries?
The berries? Yeah.
What happened?
There was supposed to belike the cranberries,
but then AJ just wanted the berries,so I don't know what happened there.
Maybe he didn't like the group.
Isn't there group?
Musical group, the cranberries.
I think that'swhat they were supposed to be called out.
Yeah,but they changed their mind. Yeah, right.
Yeah.
Well, then there's AJ.
(09:14):
Not living up to his his advice.
Somebody else comes up with an idea.
Let him go with it. Yeah.
Just go with cranberries.
It's like it's only a couple of days.
Well, I was just surprised about Logan.
So they decide to call themselvesthe Four Berries.
Yeah.
So their plan is that they want to dothree votes on and three votes on Zara.
And then their guess is that current Zaraand I guess Myles will all vote
(09:37):
for someone else.
And then whatever happens, it'll bea three, three, three split on the revote.
They're all going to vote out card.
But it's interesting thatthey're not going to tell Myles the plan.
They think that he's a little bittoo much of a chatterbox.
And so we're really seeing the separationof AJ and Myles in their games.
Because this is now the second episode
where they haven't really beenon the same wavelength with the plan.
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Yes, we'll talk about that more laterafter the immunity challenge.
Right.
All right.
So then we get goingto the immunity challenge.
So we see that this is quitethe challenge.
They have to do one of those backwardsrolls on a barrel.
And then they have to roll their barrel.
Then they have to throw something.The 3 pound rope.
Yeah. And finally.
(10:18):
Oh yeah, there's so much more onthe ends in a puzzle.
Right.Throwing that rope is obviously the.
Oh yeah. The part the monkey.
Not while. We're talking. Yeah.
The interesting thingis that another weird thing
about a challenge this episodeI have another complaint for JLP.
I hope you're listening.
But they stopped the challenge.
(10:39):
It's like only five peoplemake it to the first round,
and then another threemake it to the last round.
Why not just have the whole challengego and see who wins?
I don't know why we're stopping people.
Oh, that's a good idea.
But the challenge didn't stop and restart.
That's what I thought was going to happen.
Like the first people to get to this pointand then we stop.
Then we have another raceto the next point and then. Right.
(10:59):
They didn't do itthat way. It's just like, keep on going.
Oh you're done. Right? Yeah. No.
Why even bother?
Just let everyone go to the endand see what happens.
I mean, why do we keep stopping?
I'm like that.
Yeah. Yeah. I agree with you, Rachel.
Let him go all the way to the endand see who makes the puzzle the fastest.
Yeah, I mean, who cares, you know? Right?
I could tell that there probably wasn'tgoing to win when she was spending.
(11:21):
So long on the, barrel.
She fell off the barrel right at the end,which is disappointing.
And she had to go back.
You know, I felt bad. There she is.
You know, I'm so far behind.
Well, the first threeto get a walk on those barrels
and land the three bags were Kaitlyn.
Kaitlyn did it pretty quickly.
(11:43):
AJ took a little while and then Morgan
and I'm like,what happened to Logan Mapper?
Logan was right there and then,but she did come in and then Kristen.
But Logan should have been therelike before.
AJ right now, which is interestingand took her a little longer.
Right. Those were the top five.
Yeah.
So then they had to do thatreally difficult toss.
(12:04):
Before they could get on the beam.
And we see Kaitlyn got it.
I mean it took up a while, buthe was by far the first one to get the,
get to the next step.
Yeah. Did you see the puzzle?
He was like a cowboythe way you, throwing that rope.
That was pretty cool, right?Everyone else threw it.
Like all of us would throw it.
(12:24):
Yeah, like he gets better now.
Like that, right? Oh, boy.
So maybe that was interesting.
Well, now we know if you ever go onsurvivor, that's the way to.
Throw it, right?
Right. Practice with a monkey fist.
Yeah. Right. Yeah.
So the weird thing about thisnow is Kaitlyn is on the other side
of that triangle, so no one can seewhere is that in the puzzle.
And he waves over jail pins,says, don't tell them.
(12:46):
I don't want them to knowthat I'm good at the puzzle.
And I'm thinking,well, it's day 36, maybe 37 by now.
Doesn't matter if you're right.
I mean, that's something you keep a secret
at a different stage of the game,or we're nine left.
It doesn't matter. Right?
It doesn't seem to make sense toto say that, I mean, just win the game.
Well, Jonathan is kind oflaughing about it, right?
(13:08):
And he shrugged his shoulders like, okay,okay.
Yeah, yeah.I don't know. Whatever you see.
Yeah, I see why.
Kaitlyn I mean, he's definitelymaking himself a challenge beast.
And he could be seen as a threat,but he was going to win this one.
You know, by the time we got tothe puzzle, he was going to win it.
Right?
So either win itor don't don't tell JLP to get involved
(13:29):
and tell the players something else. Yeah.It was very strange.
Just slow downuntil you have three pieces left.
When somebody comes over the wall, startmoving them around a little bit
and then let them start on their puzzleand then win the game.
Well, we saw that, other two peoplethat joined Kaitlyn was Morgan and AJ,
and while Morgan was trying to get downfrom that, hill,
(13:50):
Kaitlyn pulled aside and helped her.
That was kind.
And J.
Jonathan even said something about that.
So he was not hustling the puzzle.
Done. No,And he even lost a piece there at the end.
It was still in his bag and he didn't.
So you can't act about itand it didn't have an impact.
He won, far ahead of anyone else.
(14:11):
So congratulations, Kaitlyn.
On his thirdindividual immunity of the season.
Well, who was.
Who was it that yelled, look in your bag?
There was a femaleand I thought it. Was a Logan.
I don't know, maybe. Yeah.
And I'm thinking, how long would it have taken
if if they hadn't said that,what would what would he.
I guess he would have lookedpretty quickly.
You look under the table.
All right. Yeah.And then you're. Good. Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
(14:32):
I think it's a pretty smart person. Right.
Is working on his PhD.
Yeah I think all right, well,either way, it's pretty impressive.
Very impressive.
Well, then it istime to head back to camp to scramble.
So AJ wants to as all set on the berriesplan to get out.
Cochran and Kristen.
However, as a Berryis not so keen on the idea,
(14:54):
she's saying that Cochran is,better for her game
because they have some trust,whereas Zora isn't really going to benefit
Kristen's game. Yeah they don't.She's a little bit more of a threat.
Yeah.
And she's a threat for theindividual challenges which we've seen.
So Kristen goes to the other girls.
She goes to Kate and Morgan pitchesthe idea of voting Sara out.
(15:16):
And they say no.
So you that was kind of a shortconversation there.
Yeah.
This wholeall these conversations were so strange.
And this is when we see Miles scramblingand no one's talking to him.
He's trying to talk to AJ about the thing.
You do your thing.I do your thing. Oh, you can tell me.
So we don't do the same thing?
No. Yeah. It was so strange. Yeah.
(15:37):
And yeah, it was.
Nobody wanted to hear his plan.
Well I thought it was very odd, but
AJ was like, well,I won't tell you until Tribal Council.
Yeah.
I'm thinkingif I'm Miles, I'm thinking, well,
if you're not going to tell me,then maybe I'm the plan.
I'm going to go out and find the idoland play it for myself.
Exactly.
Which I guess wouldn't have had an effecton AJ's plan, but it would
make Miles have looked pretty good to playanother idol, you know what I mean?
(15:59):
Like, it just seems likewhy not just let him in on the plan?
Yeah, right.
Well, he's afraid he'd tell Karen.
Well, Mileshad another trick up the sleeve.
He had a plan that he wanted Zora out.
So this is very interesting,because for the berries,
Zora is obviously the second vote.
She's the backupthat Kristen had wanted out.
(16:20):
Anyway, Kristen was tryingto make the switch from car into Zora,
and now you're walks upmiles pitching that exact idea.
Yeah.
That's just funny
how there's two different groupsvoting for the same person.
Yeah. That's it's unusual.
Yeah.
So it's looking at this point,
like Kristen is going to bethe decision maker at this vote.
(16:40):
So she's flipping it now from A3332A432.
Well I guess Miles is doing that to A432.
However Logan is the onewho spills the beans on it, not Miles.
Logan comes back over to Agent Katelyn andsays, you know, we've got a big problem.
Miles is voting for Zora.
Now we all have to switch up our votes.
(17:01):
I don't know. It's it was like.
It was like the very next shot.
Like she was telling them, you know, theymade it seem like it was a second later.
Yeah.
It reminds me of.
Who was it on the brains tribe?
I think it was Ali who had just, like,sprint over to tell people
the plans after she.
Oh that's right. Yeah, I'm very low,but there.
Well, AJ decidesto take matters into his own hands.
(17:22):
He tells Miles your plans dead.
Don't worry about. It. Oh, geez.
That's kind of partner.
Yeah.So an interesting way of working together.
But AJ is saying that he is goingto win the game if he sees. No.
No way that he can't win.
He cannot use.
I'm thinking, wow that's confidence.
(17:44):
Yeah. Nine players left and he is.
He sees no way to lose.
Well meanwhileKristen goes to talks to Karen
and tells her that,they're going to vote her out.
Right? Yeah.
So Kristen'sreally telling a lot of secrets here.
She said, if you want to save yourself,you have to vote for Zahra.
Which I don't know is necessarily true,because from what I'm understanding,
(18:07):
Kristen and Milesare going to vote for Zahra.
And then I think the plan was still forKate and Morgan to vote for her as well.
So it's still beforeand then B three on Corin
and then or Catanzaro would votefor whoever they wanted to probably keep
and that was it.
So she didn't necessarily have to tell herthat she had to slip on Zora
because she didn't.
(18:27):
There was enough votes
going other placesthat the four on Zahra would have done it.
Yeah, it would have been a blindsideon Zahra, but she told her anyway.
And then we head in.
The tribal really waited untilthe last minute to break the news to her.
Right?
And then Polly walks inwith its open shirt.
I know he's lost his beard.
He just has a mustache.And he. That necklace thing.
(18:49):
Yeah, yeah yeah.
Yeah, yeah, Polly looked great.
I'm excited to see the rest of us out.Right.
I know, and they're like, oh,he looks mad.
Yeah. Yeah.
And they were excitedto see how he looked.
They're all like the way it looked.
Yeah this is fun right.
Some hooting and hollering. Woo yeah yeah.
Well Khan is not there for a fashion show.
She is there to play the game.
(19:10):
So she comes out. Mad.
And she says you knowokay Morgan, you're a shield for AJ.
You're not allies.
And I thought that was a pretty good
point, that, allies and shields are different things.
And Kate and Morgan seem to think,oh, no, it's not a big deal.
Like,I wouldn't really engage in discussion,
but I thought that was a good point.Right?
It is interesting.
(19:31):
Morgan and, Kate, do they just shut down?
They don't they don't try to get involvedin someone else's business.
I guess they want if you want a reactionfrom them, they're not giving it to you.
Yeah.
Very interesting.Yeah. Like a. Poker face.
Which is a great job.
Yeah. Right. Didthey learn it from the information.
They did. Yeah. The player.
(19:52):
And then Corrin calls for that sidebarwhich I thought was interesting.
Oh my god.
Yeah.
Let's have a chat Kaitlyn two right.
Yeah. Kaitlyn, Zara Logan.
Kristen and herself. Yeah, yeah.
So that. Yeah.
So she says,let's all head on over here for a chat.
And so I thought that was funbecause this is survivor, you know, people
(20:12):
getting up and whispering at tribaland there was all this chaos.
Why not Myles.
Why didn't she bring Myles in?
I think she just really dislikes him.
Yeah but Myles was wanted to workwith her.
RememberAJ was trying to get her out before
and Myles said it wasn't in his game.
He likes chaos.
Wants to work with her rightI don't know what the.
Issue is that Myles and AJ are too close.
(20:33):
I think Karen didn't think that Myleswas going to break away from AJ.
She doesn't know that Myles is leftout of the plan right.
She that's true. That's true.
But I think if she says to to Myleshey we're going to do XYZ.
He's just going to walk right over there
and look at her and gohey they're doing x y z.
Yeah. Right.
And then it wasprobably going to be on AJ right.
Yeah yeah. So it wouldn't have worked.
(20:55):
So I think she knew enough notto call Myles because they'll just blab.
Well I think Khan did.
Yeah I think Khan did a good job here.
So she's sayingbasically the votes are coming on me.
If anyone plays an idolI'm the one at risk.
So you have no, you know,it's a risk mitigation situation.
You have no reason not to vote with me.
We'll make an alliance right here.
(21:18):
We will all be the majority,and that'll be that.
So I thought it was a decent pitch,but she didn't seem to be.
She was not able to nail homewhy it would be advantageous
to those people to vote for Myles,who was her selected target.
She explained how it would not be a riskto work with her, but she didn't say why
it would benefit them.
Well, she didn't have much timeto put this all together.
(21:40):
And then I'm just thinking that'swhat made it fall.
Was this a timewhen they're over there in their chat?
Then AJ's talk indicates Morganand then Myles
is sitting there by himself,and then Jonathan saying, well.
You know when he jokes, yeah. Yeah.
That was funny.
But then Kaz turns and talks to everybodyright? Yep.
And she says that she's playingRussian roulette.
(22:01):
Right.
She said the gun is pointing at her andshe's going to see who she can get out.
So she's putting on a good show.
You know, she's, moving around tribal.
She's has some good analogies, and she'smaking it entertaining for the viewer.
But I feel like, like we said, she doesn'tshe didn't have enough time
to put it all together.
So it's just not quite clicking right.
(22:23):
You know, like, it's it's a good pitch,but it's not.
There's nothing behind it.There's no substance to the pitch.
I wonder if she thoughtthis through beforehand
or did it just come to her to kind ofas she was walking there
as they were,you know, traveling to tribal council?
I think her only opportunitywas to think of it at Tribal Council,
because Kristen told her the plan secondsbefore they left, it looked like.
(22:47):
Right,I see what you're saying. Yep. Okay.
And she seemed really, caught off guardwhen Kristen told her,
oh yeah, she was the vote.
I don't think she was thinkingabout this ahead of time.
Yeah, she was livid at AJ,but yeah, not enough time to get them
to work out a plan. Yeah.
So then Karen throws a lot of chaos.
Unfortunately, Kaitlyn says
(23:08):
he doesn't know where he's voting yet,and it looks like it's all falling apart.
It doesn't feel likeshe has the strength behind her,
said Karen gets into the voting booth
and interestingly enough, writes downZara's name.
She did this whole big presentation
because she didn'twant to turn on her number one
and there she isvoting for her number one.
Yeah, I was very, very surprised by that.
(23:30):
Confused, I guess.
Yeah.
I guess she just felt,you know, it's not going to work.
She tried to blow up the game.It didn't happen.
And now
she has to go into self-preservation modeand either vote out Zara or herself.
So she's saying, you know, it didn't work.
I'll vote out Zara.
Right?
It's like,if I know she's getting some votes,
why don't I add one more in the hopesthat I don't get as many, right?
Yeah. She realized that Miles wasn't goinghome, right? Yeah.
(23:53):
No one's for the plan.So why would I vote that way?
So when it comes time to read outthe votes, Myles gets one vote
from Zara and then Zara, I think.
Did she get through?
I think three of the three votes.
And then there were fivesending car and home.
So disappointing.
She was my winnerpick from the very beginning.
(24:13):
And she made it down to the final 8 or 9.
While I.
Rachel, you picked a good person.
I mean, she really played this game.
I kind of figured, like she was Kirby.
I keep talking about last season, but,she knew her stuff, just like Kirby did.
And I just think it's a shame.
I'm very upset. I'm very sad.
(24:33):
I think she is an excellent playerand it's a shame they voted her out.
She was a brain.She was on the brains. Wow.
But she was athletic too. Yeah.
I mean, she had both. Yeah.
Yeah, she. Was very fun to watch. Yes.
And she was constantly thinking like Milesand AJ I guess.
But I don't knowI just so sad to see her go.
(24:53):
Yeah it's disappointing.She played a great game.
So I guess we'll just have to settlefor seeing her on the jury,
even though I would like to see hercausing chaos at camp a little bit longer.
But I don't understandwhy everyone turned on her.
I just just because AJ wanted her out.
Oh, why?
I don't ever see, Logan's.
Why did Logan want her out?
(25:16):
Yeah, I still don't get that.
Something happened with Loganat the reward challenge.
Is it just because Logan was pickedto go on the berries?
Reward?
I don't know,but she brought that as we were.
Yeah, but she came up, right?
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, because Cochran saved Loganthere, right?
Laura would have been on the campand Logan
(25:38):
would have been on the juryhad Corey not saved Logan.
And she turned aroundand stabbed her in the back, right?
Yeah. That was pretty sad.
Well, I guess Logan just had toseparate herself and make her own moves.
Maybe she thought that she would be inKaren's shadow if she stuck with her.
I don't know, but why?
(25:58):
Disappointing to see.
Yeah, I feel myself. Yes.
Going down and down in this podcast,getting smarter and smarter.
So there I will.
That's why I sound like this.
I just really liked her.
But it's really fun to watch.
Hopefully she'll be on another seasonone day.
Yeah. I'm wondering,I hope so. What about you, Matt?
What do you think.
I'm still voting for Myles now. Right?
So. Right.
(26:19):
Jungle, right?
Right.
I think he has a chanceto get to the end.
Yeah.
It seems like AJ, Karen and Mylesseem to be the three people
that really stand out this season.
Do you guys agree? Right.
They were playing the game right.
Constantly playing the.
Game I don't feel like Kaitlyn'snecessarily playing the game.
He's just a good athlete.
(26:41):
No I think he's but he's playing.
But yeah he's he'sthese three people really stand out right.
They're ultra players. Right?Mega players.
They are mega players. Macom yeah.
Logan, I would sayis playing the game in the sense
that she's always about to be voted outand seems to keep surviving,
but I think that AJ and Corinand Myles are playing better games. Hey.
(27:02):
But she could get oh more.
Logan's been trying to get AJ outsince like day five or something,
so it seems like Logan
has not achieved what she wanted.
I don't know, it'sjust a very would have helped her.
Yeah.
Oh wow. What was a another great episode
I Australian survivorsjust wonderful to watch.
(27:25):
Very entertaining. Fun.
Well I wonder what's going to happenin the next episode.
Oh, it looked like a lot. What's going.
On? Yeah, except for.
So the previews were intriguing, right?
So if you understandwhy Logan flipped on Corin,
please let us know,because we can't figure it out.
Maybe we missed something in the episode.
Please write in to us on Instagramat Survivor, TikTok
(27:45):
at survivor, or send us an email at eight,Australian Survivor and at gmail.com.
And let us know what is Logan doing?
Why did you vote out Karen?
And are you just as sadas us to see her going home?
Thanks.And we'll see you next week. Bye bye. Bye.
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