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Recap of Episode 24 of Australian Survivor Brains V Brawn 2
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Hello and welcome to Americans TalkAustralian survivor I'm Rachel.
I'm Leah. And I'm Matt.
Thanks for joining us.
We just watched episode 24,the season finale of Australian Survivor.
Brains versus brawn two.
And there will be spoilers ahead.
We open up on day 46and we see our final three.
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We have Myles, AJ and Kaitlynready to take on the final three. Wow.
I mean this is I just cannot believe it.
These three made it.
If three friends made it. It's wonderful.
Myles mentioned that his goalwas just to make it to merge.
And then Kaitlyn says, well,of course my goal was to win.
Yeah.
So it's funny that Myles reallyjust went into this game.
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It seems like just to have fun,and he seems just as surprised
as anyone else that he didso well. Right? Right.
And it was nice to hear Kaitlyn said thatthese are his best friends.
You know he really, really likesAJ and Myles.
Yeah it's fun to see a friendshipmake it all the way to the end.
I can't remember the last time it happenedthat, you know, a core
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alliance of real friendsmade it this far 46 days.
Yeah, well.
Something always feels. Right.
And later on in the episode,
Jonathan said, first timethree men in from the same tribe.
So congratulations on these three.
But I thought was interesting.
Kaitlyn and Myles are reflectingwhile AJ says, wow, there's three brains
because of me.
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He couldn't help a thing, right?
And but he needs Kaitlyn to win immunityso that he can go to the final two.
And Kaitlyn was even already discussingthat it's going to be such a tough choice
for him, who he takes with himonce he wins the necklace.
And I thought it was kind of funnythat everyone
has just assumed that Kaitlyn has won.
No one's even thinkingthat someone else could win.
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Yeah, no one is just going into the daywith the assumption that Kaitlyn will
come out with the necklace.
And how is anyone else going to win.
Right?
But I did hearKaitlyn say that he was loyal to AJ.
Yeah, yeah, he's saying.
There's definitely an AJ side.
We'll see how that plays outin the rest of the episode.
So it's time for the final immunitychallenge.
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Very exciting to make it to this point.
And interestingly, it's in the woodsthis time.
We've seen it.You know, on a cliff with the.
Oh, that.
Oh yeah.
I think that being the first one in.
The rain, wasn't it raining or somethingor the waves were coming in.
And it was cold.
It was calm.
This was like a more peaceful place.
They're just standing on their pegsin the woods.
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But, before they get started,we get to meet the families and friends.
Miles. Yeah.
So Miles brings out his friend Ali,who he said is
his survivor friend,who always messages about survivor.
So I thought that was fun.
That he'sbringing his friend into the game.
His friend gets to go to Samoa.
Sure.
You know, meet JLP.
I'm sure he was thrilled. Yeah, yeah.
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I'm wondering if maybe Milesopted to take his friend over.
You know, like a parent or sibling
or someonethat wasn't as much of a fan of the show
because he knew how much it meantto his friends.
So, sure. Wouldn't that be cool?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, a great wayanyone wants to take
any of us as your friend down to three.
It's a great way to see survivorand still be able to take a shower.
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Sure.
And then AJ brings out his friend,the bill.
And I was surprised by that as well.
I thought AJ was marriedor maybe even had kids.
I thought he mentioned that, but I guessif you did, maybe they weren't available.
I don't know.
Right?
I guess it is a big commitment, right?
If you're married and have young children,maybe you can't take them.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't remember.
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And then Kaitlyn brought his mother.
She was nice to meet her. Lydia. Yep.
Very nice. She was very proud.
Yeah, they didn't mention thatCaitlyn never gets emotional.
And I was thinking really Buthe's also starving, so maybe that's it.
Yeah.
It's interesting to see, you know,how the players families interpret them
and how we view them as,you know, as the audience on the show.
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So it was very fun to seeeveryone's loved ones come out.
And it's always interesting
to see kind of where people come fromand what their relationships are like.
So I did noticeas they're going to sit down, though,
miles tells his friendhe found an idol and played it correctly.
He only mentioned one, so I guess Milesis still trying to be secretive and sneaky
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like this friend, to be surprisedwhen he finds out how many idols. Yes.
Yeah, it makes it more fun to watch one.
Right? Yeah. His friend will be surprised.
So then it's time for the playersto get in position.
And this looks uncomfortable.
They're on their little pegsas we expected, but instead of something
coming up from the ceilingtrying to crush them down or whatever
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it's been in the past, they just have tolike hold on to the bamboo on the side.
But Miles is like an awful stretchto hold on to the bamboo sides.
I feel like it was really tough for himcompared to everyone else.
Right?
Again, it's not based on their body type,right?
It's not based on measurementsor whatever, which doesn't seem fair
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because he definitely was strugglingjust to hold on early on.
Well, later on he said something toAJ that not all of us have.
Skanky long legs or something like that.
Yeah he. Did. Yeah.But I thought it was interesting.
Everyone took their own approach.
AJ's talking, talking, talking.
Caitlyn is not talking.
He's staying focused.
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And Miles is extremely flexible.
That's what I saw, right?
But two hoursin, I can't believe is two hours in.
Oh, no. First they had the one hour hour.
Yeah.
Then they moved to the second stagewhich is unbelievable.
Then they were still there two hours.
I mean, I bet the producersdidn't think they'd be there that long.
I was thinking, I remember it's gone onfor like six hours.
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It's like,oh I recalled that to the sun went down.
Oh yeah. It felt short to me. Right.
And AJ said he's staying.
He's got nowhere to go.
Right. He kept talking about that.
He's staying sane to then.But it was ages.
Oh go ahead Rachel.
Oh AJ was trying to butter up Kaitlyn.
He was telling oh yeah. Oh he's so great.
He's so cool.
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Everyone loves itI feel like Caitlyn yeah.
As Caitlyn is trying to win this challengefor the both of them.
But the live transfer going from one tothe other to seemed unusually difficult.
Especially for miles. Right.
That that it wasn't an easy thing to do.
And I understand thatthere's no sense making it easy.
And you want to have an opportunityfor someone to drop out by doing it.
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But it again, it wasn't milescouldn't could barely reach the bamboo
and have his feet on the onthe little pegs.
Yeah. Didn't seem right to me.
So we saw Miles struggling
for quite a while and eventuallyhe drops out at two hours and 25 minutes.
Wow, that was crazy.
Congratulations, Miles.
That's incredible. Feat.
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Okay, I feel like it's two hoursand 24 minutes more than I could do.
Probably, right? Yeah, yeah.
I was watching him, and I was saying,Miles, you've got to stay in there.
Right?He looks like so uncomfortable to me.
Yeah, he did, he did. Yeah.
So when he dropped out,I thought to myself, well that's it.
Caitlyn wins.
Takes AJ to the end and AJ wins the game.
Done over there not my dude.
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Well AJ too is talking to Caitlynsaying I'll take you to the end.
You knowif you want to drop out or whatever.
But at two hours and 30 minutes,they moved to the fourth peg
and this was really far away.
And I sawthat Miles is trying to help Caitlyn.
Did you notice that?
Yes, he was.
And Caitlyn's mom was helpingto. Lydia was helping.
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Yeah.
And then three hours in, I, AJ is in alot of pain and asked Caitlyn to give up.
What's interesting about this is Caitlyn
looks at himand doesn't even say anything.
He wouldn't say no.
He just completely ignores them.
And AJ is sitting therechatting and chatting
and chatting and talking to the families.Is talking to kids, right?
So it was very interesting to see Caitlynjust lock in and ignore
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everyone elseas his mom told him to do. Right?
But it's not like we've seen that beforein this in this season too.
Not necessarily with Caitlyn,but with the women when they were doing
when they were holdingon, you know, some women didn't even move.
Yeah. They're so. Focused. Right.
It's like so into it that not even budgewhile other people are dropping.
So if you can do it, that's fantastic.
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If you see if you can get in that zone.
A good strategy from Caitlyn.
And it paid offbecause eventually AJ slips,
it looks like he wasn't really giving up.
He just slipped right and stumbled
and he was out of the challenge,giving Caitlyn his seventh immunity.
Wow. I'm believable.
So I thought it was nice.
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Caitlynpicks up AJ and carries them all over.
I know the.
Area, which is very niceand the three of them hug, which I mean,
I just like how I really thinkthey do generally like each other, right?
Right. It'snice to see three friends like this.
I just thought that was really nice.
And then Caitlyn starts cryingbecause, this is going to be tough.
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Yeah.
seven immunity wins. Wow.
Yeah, it's a new record. Right. Downsouth.
Never won.
He smashed the old record held by Caitlyn.
I think Caitlynpicking up AJ and carrying him over.
I think it was meant to be niceand supportive, but I was looking at it
thinking Kaitlyn's kind of showing offsaying, you know, you just don't care.
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Are you over?
You can't lie.
But I'm good.
I don't know. My feet are, you know.
How did they do that?
That was crazy.How could you possibly walk?
Caitlyn had no problem, right?
Yeah, I was, I was, I was watching that.
I was wondering,what did Myles do after he got off?
I mean, did he sit there and massagehis feet for a half hour or, I.
Don't know. Rub him in the sand.
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Was he able to put him in the water.You don't know.
Right.
It's interestingI feel like we've seen in the past
the families will come overand help him over to the bench,
and then you kind of sit on the bench.I don't think you get to.
Yeah, wander around, do anything you want.
But then we go straight into tribal.
There's no pitching themselvesback at camp.
We go straight tribal, right. Surprising.
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Yeah.
And because sometimesI think we've seen that in the past
where they have to go straight to tribal
because the sun has already setand there's no time.
But, they didn't take that long comparedto other seasons that there was time
to go back to camp before the sunset,but we didn't see what happened there.
So we go into tribaland now we start the pitches.
Yeah, but did you see before thatthey started clapping for Zara and Sara?
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No emotion. Straight face.
Nah. Should not have.
No look.
She look. Mad. Yeah,they're clapping for a nothing.
Got nothing bad.
It frequentlyseems that your first night in tribal.
The first tribal you go to. You look mad.
Yeah, yeah. And she should be mad.
I mean, she was under the impression
she was making fire last night,and she didn't even get the shot, right.
Yeah,I would be mad if I were her as well.
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Yes, she was prepared. Yeah.
Well, we get into the playerspitching themselves
to Kaitlyn as to whyhe should take them to the final two.
And what was kind of funnyhere is that they're really pitching
why the other person is a better playerbecause they're saying you know,
Kaitlyn has promisedboth of us the final two,
so he's going to have to breaksome promise.
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And Myles is saying,
you know, AJ is so good at the game,you could totally beat me.
And then AJ is like,no, Myles is the best player.
Yeah six records.
And so it's very interesting to seehow right now
they're pitching the other person.
And then tomorrow nightthey're going to be pitching themselves.
So it's kind of.
A weird. Situation.
Yeah.Myles said he has 26 votes against him.
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I was impressed that he added them upand could remember the number.
Oh no I'm notI think Myles because everybody.
But each day you knowand then you get two more the next day.
And then you know I don't know.
I I also thought when AJ was listing off,the many things that Maile has, Myles
has done for the six records.
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He said the jungle rat is ahistorical player
and I have to say I agree with them.
I think he's rightthat that Myles is going to stand out
as one of the best players. Right?
So they.
Will be talking about them in future.
Seasons. Yeah.
So then AJ is talking to Caitlyn.
They're all talking.
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And AJ says, you know what,you have to go with your heart to Kaitlyn.
And then Kaitlyn asked the two,AJ and Myles for a talk,
which I thought was interesting.
They walked away and talked privately.
Right, that they didn't talkjust in front of everybody.
They just saying what he was thinking.
But that was interesting that he did that.
Yeah, it sounds like he just wanted advicefrom his friends.
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Which is understandable.
This is a huge point in the game.
However, it's notyou can't ask these friends.
Right.
And so basically he said,I haven't made up a decision.
I haven't made up my mind.
Can you help me. In thatlike you want us to?
Yeah, that's AJ said.
I think right.
Now I'm kind of running out of timehere. Yeah.
But I was so surprised.
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I feel like you know, obviously
people are going to waverone way or the other,
but I was really shockedthat he had no decision.
He really had no ideawho was taking at that point in the game,
when it was like secondsbefore he had to choose.
I think it was just so difficult for him.
Yeah.
It would have been interestingto see some of that back at camp of him
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contemplating it.
Exactly,because I'm sure they pitched themselves
at that point and, you know,he had some time alone to think about it.
So I would be curiousto see his thought process.
He really didn't tell us.
We just know that he'sreally close friends with both of them.
But he didn't tell us,like why he wants to take
either one to the endor what he's hesitant about.
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But I was kind of getting the impression.
As we were watching, I was thinking,
I feel likeKaitlyn is taking their friendship too
seriously because I feel he obviouslyreally values their friendship.
And it's a very importantrelationship to him, which is wonderful.
But at this last point in the game,
you have to makethe decision for yourself.
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And then you can be friendsoutside the game.
And I feel like Kaitlyn is having troubleseparating
the gameplayfrom the friendship at this. Yes.
I wish she would have been able to do thata little bit differently.
But he makes his vote and then he. Has to.
Yeah the jury gaffsbecause they can't believe it.
K votes out AJ. And so.
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That's why I was so.
Upset that sure it was Myles.
I know my plan but I was like oh AJ.
It seemed like he,
he should have taken AJ he seemed to havea better relationship with him.
And then maybe he just thinks, well,I have a better shot of winning.
Right.That's the idea to win the game, right.
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One of your two friendsis going to be mad at you.
I might as well win the game.
At least play the game.They should respect that. Right.
So I'm going to playwho I think I can beat.
And so he keeps Myles.
But AJ was very good about it.
He was very happy you knowso excited to have gotten that far.
So good for him for not like AJ.
Was. Pouting.
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Yeah AJ was comforting Kaitlyn.
Yeah right.
Yes I did him out.
But yeah I guess thinking back on it,
I consider AJ and Kaitlyn to be very wellaligned throughout the game
and every move that AJ did, it seems likehe usually used Kaitlyn as a number.
Everything that Kaitlyn did,AJ was a part of, whereas Myles,
he was very closely associatedwith those two, but he made his own crazy
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move for other parts in the game,and I feel like Kaitlyn separating himself
a little bit fromAJ may have been good for his game
because he was able to,or he could have been able to pitch
some of Adria's moves as his ownbecause AJ wasn't there to,
you know, take credit for itat the I guess, or at the final tribal.
But I'm wondering nowmaybe kill a new deep down
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that he was going to take Myles and that'swhy he was like, I can't decide.
I don't know,because he knew what he wanted to do, but
was having trouble kind of pressing it,kind of looking back on,
that weird little combobetween the three of them anyway.
Right. AJ is the final member of the jury.
Booth and Myles made it to the end.
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And Kaitlyn and Myles are the final two.
Very exciting.
It is very exciting. Very.
This whole episode was just so exciting.
But it was interesting that you said that.
The jury gasped, like every day. All day.
Yeah, yeah.
No one that is going to that.
I thought they would take Myles.
Right. It was.
That was just funny to methat they all did this like
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like like it was stagedalmost like. Yeah. All right.
So then it's day 47 and now they showa little bit of them talking.
But then they go back to tribal.
Well, the most exciting thing about day47 was
Myles had onwhat looks like a new outfit and thing.
Whatever. Right. For some differentI know.
Yeah I don't knowwhere you got that from but.
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I guess I didn't notice.
He was dressed up on day 47.
They had their face thererecapping their games
and now it's timefor their final tribal. Wow.
So they start out with their individualpitch and Kaitlyn goes first.
I think you did a really nice job.
He's talking about his, physical game,which obviously we all know about.
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And then he mentions
that his social game was so goodthat he was able to get information
from other people, and I think hehe made a really good start to the pitch.
I was like, okay,I see where he's going with this.
He could have something here.
Then Myles gets to give his pitchand he also did a very nice job
talking about his strategy,
talking about playing from the bottomand how difficult that was.
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And at this point,after the individual pitches
before the Q&A, I'm thinking that reallyit could get clumps here.
Right?
I was thinking it'sthere's eight people in the jury.
It could be a four for tie.
Yeah.
Can you see going to fire for $1 million.
Oh yeah. That'd be wild. Half a million.
Half million. Sorry.
But then we get into the Q&Awith the jury.
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So this is where I think Kaitlyn kind ofstumbled a little bit at one point.
He was asked about, like, what?
Is he least proud of in the gamewhen he said he's
least proud of voting out his friends?
And that's not really,
I don't know, like that's the gameis that you vote on your friends.
You can't be not proud of thatbecause you had to do it to get there.
You know,I feel like he was kind of saying things
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and he saidlike he wouldn't change anything.
And I don't think he was getting answersthat the jury wanted at that point.
Right.
I feel like this is the point for mewhere Kaitlyn kind of lost the game.
Right? You need to say, you know what?
At one point I doubted somebodyand I didn't vote with this way,
and it would have changed thisand it would have helped.
Right?
You come up with a specificinstead of just I voted out my friends.
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Everybody voted out their friends, right?
Yeah.But I'm going to go back real quickly.
Kaitlyn said he was a golden retriever.
I never heard that before, so I thoughtthat was interesting to hear that.
He just heard that before. Did he.
Just consider himself the. Golden boy?
I think that they're I okay.
But it was good that he did saythat he was doing everything,
getting coconuts,which he was, and building the fires.
And people were strategizingright in front of them.
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And yeah, that was interesting.Sort of like ignored him.
So that was good.
And then how Miles was talking abouthe always played from the bottom
and he acknowledged that he hadpersonality falls flaws.
Yeah.
They kind of ripped into him for that.
We saw on the recap of his game.
Yeah, there were a lot of instancesof people yelling at him
for his personality specifically.
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So I guess he knows he does.
And later at later on during this, he didsay he he took that to heart and changed.
And he didhe did listen to people I remember.
Was it Logan maybe kept telling number.
Maybe we. Talked too. Much.
One of them told him, yeah,just calm down.
And I think. For a while.
Yeah I remember Laura Young.
Stop talking, stop talking.
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But remember when they switched tribes,he just wouldn't start to show them.
Just walking around, just talking about.
Oh it's horrible.
Oh. Like he'snever going to make it. Yeah.
And here he is.
Yeah I would have guessed One other thingthat Kaitlyn harped on a lot
at the final tribalwas that he had a very reproducible game,
and in his eyes, the sole survivorshould have a reproducible game
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where you do the same strategy every time,
and you're always going to come out on topas the final two and possibly even.
Oh yeah, right.
I think that's a very. Scientific.
Yeah.
It's a very scientific approach,but unfortunately I feel like he
sort of misunderstood the game herebecause the game isn't to be reproducible.
The game is to be to outwit, outlast,outplay by any means necessary.
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Really it's not.
So I feel like the jury wasn't, really clinging on to that
as much as I think he wanted it to.
So I feel like that was a bitof a disconnect between him and the jury.
Yeah,I think it was the wrong thing to say,
because if it were just
being able to do the same thingeach time, then it'd be kind of boring.
Yeah, yeah, I think Jerry. Wants to.
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See Caitlin came out very strong with his,pitch.
Very, very good pitch.
But like you said,when it came to the questions,
he couldn't answer them as well as Miles.
Yeah, I think that almost speaksalso to Miles love of the game.
He knows what he's watched.
So many final travels, I'm sure.
And I don't knowif Caitlin is as much of a fan game.
I mean, we know for surethat Miles studies the game.
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He has his spreadsheets out,so he probably knew exactly.
Oh yeah. Wanted to hear.
What I really likedabout the questions from the jury
was AJ, I'm gonna tell you delusional.
Yeah,I gotta tell you, you're both delusional
and what your mistakeswere for throwing away $500,000.
I thought that was great.
Miles, your speech was bad.
Yeah, yeah, but I think.
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Wasn't it very interesting?
He said thatCaitlin should have dropped both Miles
and AJ because he saidyou don't really know what a shield is
and you should have picked anyone, anyoneyou thought that you could have beat.
And I think AJ was right.
You don't keep the two peoplewho you know who are very, very good.
Pick someone who you could probably winagainst, right.
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What do you guys what do you guys I.
Agree, but would Caitlin have been able toI guess by winning immunity
he would have been ableto keep advancing and advancing.
Right? Right.
So pick some people that maybeyeah weren't doing as much.
Right.
So we kind of like joined the group ofthe strong guys and then stayed with him.
Yeah.
But I'm happy
he did that because I just loveseeing the three of them together at that.
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So yeah, I think killingunfortunately didn't really get
a good opportunity to do that because I'mthinking about like the final five.
You know, we had Zara and Kate, who wereboth really strong players as well.
So I think it was, by the time
the thought would have crossed his mind,it was almost too late for it.
I think he also, you know,he takes this friendship so seriously.
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So he would have had to cut themat maybe like Final eight.
Final seven would have been a good time
for himto kind of break free from this group.
And I think that
it would have been very difficult for himemotionally to make that separation.
Right, AJ said at four and five.
And so I think he did have the opportunityto do it, as I recall.
Oh, I'm. Sure there werea lot of people wanted Miles for sure.
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And I had forgottenthat AJ was throwing those challenges.
I forgot I was very mad at AJfor throwing those challenges, right?
And yeah, they said.
Good thing he's not in the final two.
Well, I still I did.
They talked about that in the show.
Open the yeah the cool recap there.
Yeah yeah yeahI'm just thinking if Caitlin were to break
free of Miles and Adriaat final five and final four,
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he would have ended up next to Kate orZara who were still really good players.
So yeah. Butdo you have beaten either of those two?
I don't know.
I don't.
Know, I'm not positive of thatbecause they had a lot of friends.
Yeah.
It was nice though, to see that, we didn't really have anyone in the jury
like very overtly rootingfor just one of them,
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which we've seen a lot in the past,where they say, you know, you, my friend,
tell us all of your great things,and then I'm going to ask, right, right.
The one I don't want to win somethingbad. Exactly.
Yeah. That was that was nice.It felt like.
Yeah, it felt watching itlike the vote could really go either way.
I felt like every juror seemedopen. Right.
That's why I was saying it.Could it be for for like.
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Yeah. What are they going to do.
So then it is time to votefor the final time.
Yeah. And I was on the edge of my seat.
I didn't knowwhich way it was going to go.
And when AG was running, running to vote,I'm like, who is he going to vote for?
And I think I said, Miles.
I said that he was going to vote for
Miles, that AJ would vote for Milesbecause he knows the game that he played.
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And yeah.
And he knew that it couldn'tbe the two of them at the end.
Right.
He didn't he didn't know that.
He didn't want to be sitting there. Right.
All right.
So that's why he had to vote for mileseven though he, you know put him down.
You know, your speech was no good.
Well, they read out the votes,they bring in the families,
and we see one vote for miles,and we see one vote for Kaitlyn.
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And then every vote after is for miles,making him the winner of brains
versus Brown two.
Wow. Congratulations, Miles and Matt.
Half $1 million.
Matt should you probably shouldget some money for picking miles to.
The same place just right.
I was just.
Checking out the web page,and then I look at them and I'm like,
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that guy says he placed strategicallyand he has spreadsheets.
I think he's going to win.All right. Hungry, Jack?
How about sending some hamburgersover here to the United States for Matt
picking miles for, who what is it?
Car dealer car.
That always, I assume.
Yeah, I. Zuzu, all right.
You can send us a prayer over here to.
Well, make sure that Matt gets itfor picking up miles.
(25:15):
That would be fantastic.
So thank you. I'd like to thank you all for.
Yeah, believing in me.
I'll take some Australian loveover here in the United States.
But just the three of us, right?
Yeah.
Did, did Hungry Jack's even sponsoran episode?
I didn't know. That.
They haven't.
It's just like a sponsored here.
Oh, I keep yeah. Yeah, yeah.
(25:36):
We love hungry Jack.
We eat Burger King over here.
Yeah. It looks just like Hungry Jack's.
We always get a kick out of seeing them,
so it's too badthey didn't advertise with C, right?
Maybe next time.
I remember the Ikea episode.
I slept on an Ikea pillow. Yeah, yeah.
That was fun.
Well, the car was the best, right?
I mean, I think, the Joker won that.
(25:56):
There was a couple times that happened,but I remember when the Joker won, right?
So that's a good win. It's quite bad car.
Excellent, excellent. Excellent season.
I mean I right don't you think?
I mean, Australian survivor castssuch great people.
Right. Excellent characters. Right.
I do wish we had a little bit of a reunionafter they read the final votes.
(26:17):
They ended up sorry.
It just ended with Milesjust walking towards the camera.
I'm like, what are they showing in it?
Was that like the. First that was like.
Was it the first time that he walkedonto the island or something?
I don't know, it would just be funif they just ended with their
their videos of how they tried to get on.
Oh yeah.
The audition tape forthat would be pretty neat,
(26:38):
just to end with the winners auditiontape or something and then fade them.
Yeah, but it was just kind of an odd.
Well,we'll just put this at the shot here.
Well, I wanted to
I wanted to hear where Caitlyn had to say,
and I wanted to hearwhat the jury had to say.
Yeah, I wanted a little live reunion, soit was too bad we didn't get to see that.
But maybe they'll release something lateron. We'll keep an eye out.
But I would be interested to hear whateveryone else thought about this winner.
(27:00):
Obviously they voted for him,so everyone but Kristen voted for Myles.
But still,it would be interesting to see. Yeah.
What kind of discussion.
Congratulations to all the players.
It was just fantastic. Fantastic season.
It was.
And now it's time for our castand crew party to wrap up the season.
Yeah.
So thank you allso much for listening to us this season.
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And, let us know what you would liketo see differently for our next time.
Yes, we're going to be on next.
I mean, it's going to be shortly, right?
The fourth since coming up.
Yeah.
So I think the Australia versus the world,I think I read that
it might be like a mini series.
It may not be the full length, for that.
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Okay. Well, I'm running for Australia.
I'm telling you right. Awaywe don't even know.
I mean, I know,I know, and I'm voting for Australia.
These guys are my favorites.
And Luke's coming back.
Yeah, King George, I mean, this is great.
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Hello and welcome to Americans TalkAustralian survivor I'm Rachel.
I'm Leah. And I'm Matt.
Thanks for joining us.
We just watched episode 24,the season finale of Australian Survivor.
Brains versus brawn two.
And there will be spoilers ahead.
We open up on day 46and we see our final three.
(00:20):
We have Myles, AJ and Kaitlynready to take on the final three. Wow.
I mean this is I just cannot believe it.
These three made it.
If three friends made it. It's wonderful.
Myles mentioned that his goalwas just to make it to merge.
And then Kaitlyn says, well,of course my goal was to win.
Yeah.
So it's funny that Myles reallyjust went into this game.
(00:41):
It seems like just to have fun,and he seems just as surprised
as anyone else that he didso well. Right? Right.
And it was nice to hear Kaitlyn said thatthese are his best friends.
You know he really, really likesAJ and Myles.
Yeah it's fun to see a friendshipmake it all the way to the end.
I can't remember the last time it happenedthat, you know, a core
(01:02):
alliance of real friendsmade it this far 46 days.
Yeah, well.
Something always feels. Right.
And later on in the episode,
Jonathan said, first timethree men in from the same tribe.
So congratulations on these three.
But I thought was interesting.
Kaitlyn and Myles are reflectingwhile AJ says, wow, there's three brains
because of me.
(01:23):
He couldn't help a thing, right?
And but he needs Kaitlyn to win immunityso that he can go to the final two.
And Kaitlyn was even already discussingthat it's going to be such a tough choice
for him, who he takes with himonce he wins the necklace.
And I thought it was kind of funnythat everyone
has just assumed that Kaitlyn has won.
No one's even thinkingthat someone else could win.
(01:44):
Yeah, no one is just going into the daywith the assumption that Kaitlyn will
come out with the necklace.
And how is anyone else going to win.
Right?
But I did hearKaitlyn say that he was loyal to AJ.
Yeah, yeah, he's saying.
There's definitely an AJ side.
We'll see how that plays outin the rest of the episode.
So it's time for the final immunitychallenge.
(02:04):
Very exciting to make it to this point.
And interestingly, it's in the woodsthis time.
We've seen it.You know, on a cliff with the.
Oh, that.
Oh yeah.
I think that being the first one in.
The rain, wasn't it raining or somethingor the waves were coming in.
And it was cold.
It was calm.
This was like a more peaceful place.
They're just standing on their pegsin the woods.
(02:25):
But, before they get started,we get to meet the families and friends.
Miles. Yeah.
So Miles brings out his friend Ali,who he said is
his survivor friend,who always messages about survivor.
So I thought that was fun.
That he'sbringing his friend into the game.
His friend gets to go to Samoa.
Sure.
You know, meet JLP.
I'm sure he was thrilled. Yeah, yeah.
(02:47):
I'm wondering if maybe Milesopted to take his friend over.
You know, like a parent or sibling
or someonethat wasn't as much of a fan of the show
because he knew how much it meantto his friends.
So, sure. Wouldn't that be cool?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, a great wayanyone wants to take
any of us as your friend down to three.
It's a great way to see survivorand still be able to take a shower.
(03:08):
Sure.
And then AJ brings out his friend,the bill.
And I was surprised by that as well.
I thought AJ was marriedor maybe even had kids.
I thought he mentioned that, but I guessif you did, maybe they weren't available.
I don't know.
Right?
I guess it is a big commitment, right?
If you're married and have young children,maybe you can't take them.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't remember.
(03:29):
And then Kaitlyn brought his mother.
She was nice to meet her. Lydia. Yep.
Very nice. She was very proud.
Yeah, they didn't mention thatCaitlyn never gets emotional.
And I was thinking really Buthe's also starving, so maybe that's it.
Yeah.
It's interesting to see, you know,how the players families interpret them
and how we view them as,you know, as the audience on the show.
(03:51):
So it was very fun to seeeveryone's loved ones come out.
And it's always interesting
to see kind of where people come fromand what their relationships are like.
So I did noticeas they're going to sit down, though,
miles tells his friendhe found an idol and played it correctly.
He only mentioned one, so I guess Milesis still trying to be secretive and sneaky
(04:13):
like this friend, to be surprisedwhen he finds out how many idols. Yes.
Yeah, it makes it more fun to watch one.
Right? Yeah. His friend will be surprised.
So then it's time for the playersto get in position.
And this looks uncomfortable.
They're on their little pegsas we expected, but instead of something
coming up from the ceilingtrying to crush them down or whatever
(04:33):
it's been in the past, they just have tolike hold on to the bamboo on the side.
But Miles is like an awful stretchto hold on to the bamboo sides.
I feel like it was really tough for himcompared to everyone else.
Right?
Again, it's not based on their body type,right?
It's not based on measurementsor whatever, which doesn't seem fair
(04:54):
because he definitely was strugglingjust to hold on early on.
Well, later on he said something toAJ that not all of us have.
Skanky long legs or something like that.
Yeah he. Did. Yeah.But I thought it was interesting.
Everyone took their own approach.
AJ's talking, talking, talking.
Caitlyn is not talking.
He's staying focused.
(05:15):
And Miles is extremely flexible.
That's what I saw, right?
But two hoursin, I can't believe is two hours in.
Oh, no. First they had the one hour hour.
Yeah.
Then they moved to the second stagewhich is unbelievable.
Then they were still there two hours.
I mean, I bet the producersdidn't think they'd be there that long.
I was thinking, I remember it's gone onfor like six hours.
(05:36):
It's like,oh I recalled that to the sun went down.
Oh yeah. It felt short to me. Right.
And AJ said he's staying.
He's got nowhere to go.
Right. He kept talking about that.
He's staying sane to then.But it was ages.
Oh go ahead Rachel.
Oh AJ was trying to butter up Kaitlyn.
He was telling oh yeah. Oh he's so great.
He's so cool.
(05:57):
Everyone loves itI feel like Caitlyn yeah.
As Caitlyn is trying to win this challengefor the both of them.
But the live transfer going from one tothe other to seemed unusually difficult.
Especially for miles. Right.
That that it wasn't an easy thing to do.
And I understand thatthere's no sense making it easy.
And you want to have an opportunityfor someone to drop out by doing it.
(06:18):
But it again, it wasn't milescouldn't could barely reach the bamboo
and have his feet on the onthe little pegs.
Yeah. Didn't seem right to me.
So we saw Miles struggling
for quite a while and eventuallyhe drops out at two hours and 25 minutes.
Wow, that was crazy.
Congratulations, Miles.
That's incredible. Feat.
(06:38):
Okay, I feel like it's two hoursand 24 minutes more than I could do.
Probably, right? Yeah, yeah.
I was watching him, and I was saying,Miles, you've got to stay in there.
Right?He looks like so uncomfortable to me.
Yeah, he did, he did. Yeah.
So when he dropped out,I thought to myself, well that's it.
Caitlyn wins.
Takes AJ to the end and AJ wins the game.
Done over there not my dude.
(06:59):
Well AJ too is talking to Caitlynsaying I'll take you to the end.
You knowif you want to drop out or whatever.
But at two hours and 30 minutes,they moved to the fourth peg
and this was really far away.
And I sawthat Miles is trying to help Caitlyn.
Did you notice that?
Yes, he was.
And Caitlyn's mom was helpingto. Lydia was helping.
(07:21):
Yeah.
And then three hours in, I, AJ is in alot of pain and asked Caitlyn to give up.
What's interesting about this is Caitlyn
looks at himand doesn't even say anything.
He wouldn't say no.
He just completely ignores them.
And AJ is sitting therechatting and chatting
and chatting and talking to the families.Is talking to kids, right?
So it was very interesting to see Caitlynjust lock in and ignore
(07:42):
everyone elseas his mom told him to do. Right?
But it's not like we've seen that beforein this in this season too.
Not necessarily with Caitlyn,but with the women when they were doing
when they were holdingon, you know, some women didn't even move.
Yeah. They're so. Focused. Right.
It's like so into it that not even budgewhile other people are dropping.
So if you can do it, that's fantastic.
(08:04):
If you see if you can get in that zone.
A good strategy from Caitlyn.
And it paid offbecause eventually AJ slips,
it looks like he wasn't really giving up.
He just slipped right and stumbled
and he was out of the challenge,giving Caitlyn his seventh immunity.
Wow. I'm believable.
So I thought it was nice.
(08:25):
Caitlynpicks up AJ and carries them all over.
I know the.
Area, which is very niceand the three of them hug, which I mean,
I just like how I really thinkthey do generally like each other, right?
Right. It'snice to see three friends like this.
I just thought that was really nice.
And then Caitlyn starts cryingbecause, this is going to be tough.
(08:46):
Yeah.
seven immunity wins. Wow.
Yeah, it's a new record. Right. Downsouth.
Never won.
He smashed the old record held by Caitlyn.
I think Caitlynpicking up AJ and carrying him over.
I think it was meant to be niceand supportive, but I was looking at it
thinking Kaitlyn's kind of showing offsaying, you know, you just don't care.
(09:07):
Are you over?
You can't lie.
But I'm good.
I don't know. My feet are, you know.
How did they do that?
That was crazy.How could you possibly walk?
Caitlyn had no problem, right?
Yeah, I was, I was, I was watching that.
I was wondering,what did Myles do after he got off?
I mean, did he sit there and massagehis feet for a half hour or, I.
Don't know. Rub him in the sand.
(09:28):
Was he able to put him in the water.You don't know.
Right.
It's interestingI feel like we've seen in the past
the families will come overand help him over to the bench,
and then you kind of sit on the bench.I don't think you get to.
Yeah, wander around, do anything you want.
But then we go straight into tribal.
There's no pitching themselvesback at camp.
We go straight tribal, right. Surprising.
(09:49):
Yeah.
And because sometimesI think we've seen that in the past
where they have to go straight to tribal
because the sun has already setand there's no time.
But, they didn't take that long comparedto other seasons that there was time
to go back to camp before the sunset,but we didn't see what happened there.
So we go into tribaland now we start the pitches.
Yeah, but did you see before thatthey started clapping for Zara and Sara?
(10:12):
No emotion. Straight face.
Nah. Should not have.
No look.
She look. Mad. Yeah,they're clapping for a nothing.
Got nothing bad.
It frequentlyseems that your first night in tribal.
The first tribal you go to. You look mad.
Yeah, yeah. And she should be mad.
I mean, she was under the impression
she was making fire last night,and she didn't even get the shot, right.
Yeah,I would be mad if I were her as well.
(10:34):
Yes, she was prepared. Yeah.
Well, we get into the playerspitching themselves
to Kaitlyn as to whyhe should take them to the final two.
And what was kind of funnyhere is that they're really pitching
why the other person is a better playerbecause they're saying you know,
Kaitlyn has promisedboth of us the final two,
so he's going to have to breaksome promise.
(10:55):
And Myles is saying,
you know, AJ is so good at the game,you could totally beat me.
And then AJ is like,no, Myles is the best player.
Yeah six records.
And so it's very interesting to seehow right now
they're pitching the other person.
And then tomorrow nightthey're going to be pitching themselves.
So it's kind of.
A weird. Situation.
Yeah.Myles said he has 26 votes against him.
(11:16):
I was impressed that he added them upand could remember the number.
Oh no I'm notI think Myles because everybody.
But each day you knowand then you get two more the next day.
And then you know I don't know.
I I also thought when AJ was listing off,the many things that Maile has, Myles
has done for the six records.
(11:36):
He said the jungle rat is ahistorical player
and I have to say I agree with them.
I think he's rightthat that Myles is going to stand out
as one of the best players. Right?
So they.
Will be talking about them in future.
Seasons. Yeah.
So then AJ is talking to Caitlyn.
They're all talking.
(11:56):
And AJ says, you know what,you have to go with your heart to Kaitlyn.
And then Kaitlyn asked the two,AJ and Myles for a talk,
which I thought was interesting.
They walked away and talked privately.
Right, that they didn't talkjust in front of everybody.
They just saying what he was thinking.
But that was interesting that he did that.
Yeah, it sounds like he just wanted advicefrom his friends.
(12:18):
Which is understandable.
This is a huge point in the game.
However, it's notyou can't ask these friends.
Right.
And so basically he said,I haven't made up a decision.
I haven't made up my mind.
Can you help me. In thatlike you want us to?
Yeah, that's AJ said.
I think right.
Now I'm kind of running out of timehere. Yeah.
But I was so surprised.
(12:38):
I feel like you know, obviously
people are going to waverone way or the other,
but I was really shockedthat he had no decision.
He really had no ideawho was taking at that point in the game,
when it was like secondsbefore he had to choose.
I think it was just so difficult for him.
Yeah.
It would have been interestingto see some of that back at camp of him
(12:58):
contemplating it.
Exactly,because I'm sure they pitched themselves
at that point and, you know,he had some time alone to think about it.
So I would be curiousto see his thought process.
He really didn't tell us.
We just know that he'sreally close friends with both of them.
But he didn't tell us,like why he wants to take
either one to the endor what he's hesitant about.
(13:19):
But I was kind of getting the impression.
As we were watching, I was thinking,
I feel likeKaitlyn is taking their friendship too
seriously because I feel he obviouslyreally values their friendship.
And it's a very importantrelationship to him, which is wonderful.
But at this last point in the game,
you have to makethe decision for yourself.
(13:39):
And then you can be friendsoutside the game.
And I feel like Kaitlyn is having troubleseparating
the gameplayfrom the friendship at this. Yes.
I wish she would have been able to do thata little bit differently.
But he makes his vote and then he. Has to.
Yeah the jury gaffsbecause they can't believe it.
K votes out AJ. And so.
(14:00):
That's why I was so.
Upset that sure it was Myles.
I know my plan but I was like oh AJ.
It seemed like he,
he should have taken AJ he seemed to havea better relationship with him.
And then maybe he just thinks, well,I have a better shot of winning.
Right.That's the idea to win the game, right.
(14:20):
One of your two friendsis going to be mad at you.
I might as well win the game.
At least play the game.They should respect that. Right.
So I'm going to playwho I think I can beat.
And so he keeps Myles.
But AJ was very good about it.
He was very happy you knowso excited to have gotten that far.
So good for him for not like AJ.
Was. Pouting.
(14:41):
Yeah AJ was comforting Kaitlyn.
Yeah right.
Yes I did him out.
But yeah I guess thinking back on it,
I consider AJ and Kaitlyn to be very wellaligned throughout the game
and every move that AJ did, it seems likehe usually used Kaitlyn as a number.
Everything that Kaitlyn did,AJ was a part of, whereas Myles,
he was very closely associatedwith those two, but he made his own crazy
(15:06):
move for other parts in the game,and I feel like Kaitlyn separating himself
a little bit fromAJ may have been good for his game
because he was able to,or he could have been able to pitch
some of Adria's moves as his ownbecause AJ wasn't there to,
you know, take credit for itat the I guess, or at the final tribal.
But I'm wondering nowmaybe kill a new deep down
(15:30):
that he was going to take Myles and that'swhy he was like, I can't decide.
I don't know,because he knew what he wanted to do, but
was having trouble kind of pressing it,kind of looking back on,
that weird little combobetween the three of them anyway.
Right. AJ is the final member of the jury.
Booth and Myles made it to the end.
(15:52):
And Kaitlyn and Myles are the final two.
Very exciting.
It is very exciting. Very.
This whole episode was just so exciting.
But it was interesting that you said that.
The jury gasped, like every day. All day.
Yeah, yeah.
No one that is going to that.
I thought they would take Myles.
Right. It was.
That was just funny to methat they all did this like
(16:14):
like like it was stagedalmost like. Yeah. All right.
So then it's day 47 and now they showa little bit of them talking.
But then they go back to tribal.
Well, the most exciting thing about day47 was
Myles had onwhat looks like a new outfit and thing.
Whatever. Right. For some differentI know.
Yeah I don't knowwhere you got that from but.
(16:35):
I guess I didn't notice.
He was dressed up on day 47.
They had their face thererecapping their games
and now it's timefor their final tribal. Wow.
So they start out with their individualpitch and Kaitlyn goes first.
I think you did a really nice job.
He's talking about his, physical game,which obviously we all know about.
(16:57):
And then he mentions
that his social game was so goodthat he was able to get information
from other people, and I think hehe made a really good start to the pitch.
I was like, okay,I see where he's going with this.
He could have something here.
Then Myles gets to give his pitchand he also did a very nice job
talking about his strategy,
talking about playing from the bottomand how difficult that was.
(17:19):
And at this point,after the individual pitches
before the Q&A, I'm thinking that reallyit could get clumps here.
Right?
I was thinking it'sthere's eight people in the jury.
It could be a four for tie.
Yeah.
Can you see going to fire for $1 million.
Oh yeah. That'd be wild. Half a million.
Half million. Sorry.
But then we get into the Q&Awith the jury.
(17:40):
So this is where I think Kaitlyn kind ofstumbled a little bit at one point.
He was asked about, like, what?
Is he least proud of in the gamewhen he said he's
least proud of voting out his friends?
And that's not really,
I don't know, like that's the gameis that you vote on your friends.
You can't be not proud of thatbecause you had to do it to get there.
You know,I feel like he was kind of saying things
(18:01):
and he saidlike he wouldn't change anything.
And I don't think he was getting answersthat the jury wanted at that point.
Right.
I feel like this is the point for mewhere Kaitlyn kind of lost the game.
Right? You need to say, you know what?
At one point I doubted somebodyand I didn't vote with this way,
and it would have changed thisand it would have helped.
Right?
You come up with a specificinstead of just I voted out my friends.
(18:21):
Everybody voted out their friends, right?
Yeah.But I'm going to go back real quickly.
Kaitlyn said he was a golden retriever.
I never heard that before, so I thoughtthat was interesting to hear that.
He just heard that before. Did he.
Just consider himself the. Golden boy?
I think that they're I okay.
But it was good that he did saythat he was doing everything,
getting coconuts,which he was, and building the fires.
And people were strategizingright in front of them.
(18:43):
And yeah, that was interesting.Sort of like ignored him.
So that was good.
And then how Miles was talking abouthe always played from the bottom
and he acknowledged that he hadpersonality falls flaws.
Yeah.
They kind of ripped into him for that.
We saw on the recap of his game.
Yeah, there were a lot of instancesof people yelling at him
for his personality specifically.
(19:05):
So I guess he knows he does.
And later at later on during this, he didsay he he took that to heart and changed.
And he didhe did listen to people I remember.
Was it Logan maybe kept telling number.
Maybe we. Talked too. Much.
One of them told him, yeah,just calm down.
And I think. For a while.
Yeah I remember Laura Young.
Stop talking, stop talking.
(19:27):
But remember when they switched tribes,he just wouldn't start to show them.
Just walking around, just talking about.
Oh it's horrible.
Oh. Like he'snever going to make it. Yeah.
And here he is.
Yeah I would have guessed One other thingthat Kaitlyn harped on a lot
at the final tribalwas that he had a very reproducible game,
and in his eyes, the sole survivorshould have a reproducible game
(19:49):
where you do the same strategy every time,
and you're always going to come out on topas the final two and possibly even.
Oh yeah, right.
I think that's a very. Scientific.
Yeah.
It's a very scientific approach,but unfortunately I feel like he
sort of misunderstood the game herebecause the game isn't to be reproducible.
The game is to be to outwit, outlast,outplay by any means necessary.
(20:10):
Really it's not.
So I feel like the jury wasn't, really clinging on to that
as much as I think he wanted it to.
So I feel like that was a bitof a disconnect between him and the jury.
Yeah,I think it was the wrong thing to say,
because if it were just
being able to do the same thingeach time, then it'd be kind of boring.
Yeah, yeah, I think Jerry. Wants to.
(20:31):
See Caitlin came out very strong with his,pitch.
Very, very good pitch.
But like you said,when it came to the questions,
he couldn't answer them as well as Miles.
Yeah, I think that almost speaksalso to Miles love of the game.
He knows what he's watched.
So many final travels, I'm sure.
And I don't knowif Caitlin is as much of a fan game.
I mean, we know for surethat Miles studies the game.
(20:54):
He has his spreadsheets out,so he probably knew exactly.
Oh yeah. Wanted to hear.
What I really likedabout the questions from the jury
was AJ, I'm gonna tell you delusional.
Yeah,I gotta tell you, you're both delusional
and what your mistakeswere for throwing away $500,000.
I thought that was great.
Miles, your speech was bad.
Yeah, yeah, but I think.
(21:16):
Wasn't it very interesting?
He said thatCaitlin should have dropped both Miles
and AJ because he saidyou don't really know what a shield is
and you should have picked anyone, anyoneyou thought that you could have beat.
And I think AJ was right.
You don't keep the two peoplewho you know who are very, very good.
Pick someone who you could probably winagainst, right.
(21:39):
What do you guys what do you guys I.
Agree, but would Caitlin have been able toI guess by winning immunity
he would have been ableto keep advancing and advancing.
Right? Right.
So pick some people that maybeyeah weren't doing as much.
Right.
So we kind of like joined the group ofthe strong guys and then stayed with him.
Yeah.
But I'm happy
he did that because I just loveseeing the three of them together at that.
(22:00):
So yeah, I think killingunfortunately didn't really get
a good opportunity to do that because I'mthinking about like the final five.
You know, we had Zara and Kate, who wereboth really strong players as well.
So I think it was, by the time
the thought would have crossed his mind,it was almost too late for it.
I think he also, you know,he takes this friendship so seriously.
(22:23):
So he would have had to cut themat maybe like Final eight.
Final seven would have been a good time
for himto kind of break free from this group.
And I think that
it would have been very difficult for himemotionally to make that separation.
Right, AJ said at four and five.
And so I think he did have the opportunityto do it, as I recall.
Oh, I'm. Sure there werea lot of people wanted Miles for sure.
(22:44):
And I had forgottenthat AJ was throwing those challenges.
I forgot I was very mad at AJfor throwing those challenges, right?
And yeah, they said.
Good thing he's not in the final two.
Well, I still I did.
They talked about that in the show.
Open the yeah the cool recap there.
Yeah yeah yeahI'm just thinking if Caitlin were to break
free of Miles and Adriaat final five and final four,
(23:06):
he would have ended up next to Kate orZara who were still really good players.
So yeah. Butdo you have beaten either of those two?
I don't know.
I don't.
Know, I'm not positive of thatbecause they had a lot of friends.
Yeah.
It was nice though, to see that, we didn't really have anyone in the jury
like very overtly rootingfor just one of them,
(23:27):
which we've seen a lot in the past,where they say, you know, you, my friend,
tell us all of your great things,and then I'm going to ask, right, right.
The one I don't want to win somethingbad. Exactly.
Yeah. That was that was nice.It felt like.
Yeah, it felt watching itlike the vote could really go either way.
I felt like every juror seemedopen. Right.
That's why I was saying it.Could it be for for like.
(23:49):
Yeah. What are they going to do.
So then it is time to votefor the final time.
Yeah. And I was on the edge of my seat.
I didn't knowwhich way it was going to go.
And when AG was running, running to vote,I'm like, who is he going to vote for?
And I think I said, Miles.
I said that he was going to vote for
Miles, that AJ would vote for Milesbecause he knows the game that he played.
(24:11):
And yeah.
And he knew that it couldn'tbe the two of them at the end.
Right.
He didn't he didn't know that.
He didn't want to be sitting there. Right.
All right.
So that's why he had to vote for mileseven though he, you know put him down.
You know, your speech was no good.
Well, they read out the votes,they bring in the families,
and we see one vote for miles,and we see one vote for Kaitlyn.
(24:33):
And then every vote after is for miles,making him the winner of brains
versus Brown two.
Wow. Congratulations, Miles and Matt.
Half $1 million.
Matt should you probably shouldget some money for picking miles to.
The same place just right.
I was just.
Checking out the web page,and then I look at them and I'm like,
(24:54):
that guy says he placed strategicallyand he has spreadsheets.
I think he's going to win.All right. Hungry, Jack?
How about sending some hamburgersover here to the United States for Matt
picking miles for, who what is it?
Car dealer car.
That always, I assume.
Yeah, I. Zuzu, all right.
You can send us a prayer over here to.
Well, make sure that Matt gets itfor picking up miles.
(25:15):
That would be fantastic.
So thank you. I'd like to thank you all for.
Yeah, believing in me.
I'll take some Australian loveover here in the United States.
But just the three of us, right?
Yeah.
Did, did Hungry Jack's even sponsoran episode?
I didn't know. That.
They haven't.
It's just like a sponsored here.
Oh, I keep yeah. Yeah, yeah.
(25:36):
We love hungry Jack.
We eat Burger King over here.
Yeah. It looks just like Hungry Jack's.
We always get a kick out of seeing them,
so it's too badthey didn't advertise with C, right?
Maybe next time.
I remember the Ikea episode.
I slept on an Ikea pillow. Yeah, yeah.
That was fun.
Well, the car was the best, right?
I mean, I think, the Joker won that.
(25:56):
There was a couple times that happened,but I remember when the Joker won, right?
So that's a good win. It's quite bad car.
Excellent, excellent. Excellent season.
I mean I right don't you think?
I mean, Australian survivor castssuch great people.
Right. Excellent characters. Right.
I do wish we had a little bit of a reunionafter they read the final votes.
(26:17):
They ended up sorry.
It just ended with Milesjust walking towards the camera.
I'm like, what are they showing in it?
Was that like the. First that was like.
Was it the first time that he walkedonto the island or something?
I don't know, it would just be funif they just ended with their
their videos of how they tried to get on.
Oh yeah.
The audition tape forthat would be pretty neat,
(26:38):
just to end with the winners auditiontape or something and then fade them.
Yeah, but it was just kind of an odd.
Well,we'll just put this at the shot here.
Well, I wanted to
I wanted to hear where Caitlyn had to say,
and I wanted to hearwhat the jury had to say.
Yeah, I wanted a little live reunion, soit was too bad we didn't get to see that.
But maybe they'll release something lateron. We'll keep an eye out.
But I would be interested to hear whateveryone else thought about this winner.
(27:00):
Obviously they voted for him,so everyone but Kristen voted for Myles.
But still,it would be interesting to see. Yeah.
What kind of discussion.
Congratulations to all the players.
It was just fantastic. Fantastic season.
It was.
And now it's time for our castand crew party to wrap up the season.
Yeah.
So thank you allso much for listening to us this season.
(27:20):
Our our third season doing the podcast.
And, let us know what you would liketo see differently for our next time.
Yes, we're going to be on next.
I mean, it's going to be shortly, right?
The fourth since coming up.
Yeah.
So I think the Australia versus the world,I think I read that
it might be like a mini series.
It may not be the full length, for that.
(27:42):
Okay. Well, I'm running for Australia.
I'm telling you right. Awaywe don't even know.
I mean, I know,I know, and I'm voting for Australia.
These guys are my favorites.
And Luke's coming back.
Yeah, King George, I mean, this is great.
I know. Chrissy. Yeah.
We've heard rumorsthat the season will start in July,
(28:03):
so we will be back with our predictionsgoing into the Australia versus
the world in a few months.
But until then, please let us knowwhat you liked about the podcast,
what you wish we did differently.
We're always looking for feedbackand we'd love to know what you would like
to see more of for next season,so don't forget to follow us on Instagram
at Survivor, TikTok at survivor,and send us an email at eight.
(28:25):
Australian Survivor at gmail.com.
Let us know what you thoughtabout the season.
Thank youand we had such a great time this season.
Thank you for joining usto listen to brains versus brawn two.
We had a blast recapping it.
And we'll see you in July.
And we really appreciate once againyou taking the time to listen to us.
Thank you. Right.And thank you for following us.
See you soon. Bye.
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