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Hello and welcome to Americans TalkAustralian survivor.
I'm Rachel. I'm Leah. And I'm Matt.
Thanks for joining us.
We just watched episode 23 of AustralianSurvivor brains versus brawn two.
And there will be spoilers ahead.
We open up on the final four.
The postgraduates have made it.
And I.
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As soon as the TV turned onand I saw the dark light
and I remembered that Miles had just takena swing at AJ and it didn't take.
I felt like,a rock in the pit of my stomach.
I was so nervous for him.
I thought, oh, Miles,this is such a bad position to be in.
Right?But it didn't seem to phase in much.
Yeah, Miles was not as nervous as I was.
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Though, because I thought it was goingto be a bad situation, too.
Like, how could you do that to me?
But what you guys are worrying about?
Miles, I was so excited for Zarabecause she was talking
how she had the powerto send someone home.
It was her decision and I just loved itthat she is the final female.
She has been very strong
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and there she was making the decision.
Was it the right decision?
I don't know, but she was so excited.
So she starts offsaying how that everyone voted
for everyone elseand then she got to make the decision
right?
So through her detective work,
she figured that everybodywas getting one vote
and so she would be able to makethe one decision
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as who goes home a very unique situation.
Yeah, but she went to AJ said, listen,I told you the whole time
Miles is going after youand you didn't listen to me.
She did.
She told him and he didn't.
And she said,
And she said that Milesthrew everything off of her,
decisionbecause he threw in that immunity idol.
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She was kind of upset by that.
Yeah.
Well, Zar is very proud of herselfas she should be.
Yeah. That's a great move AJ.
Cause one of the top three movesof the game right.
But AJ says what was Miles thinking.
He's cooked. Yeah. Yeah.
Right.
Yeah a good.
And evil response even tells Miles that.
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And he said listenthey would not take you.
But I was going to take youthe whole entire time and what you just
did, you put Zara up three, three pegs.
So you just messed up your game.
Yeah.
And AJ feels that
Kaitlyn will take him to the endand Zara will take him to the exit.
He's saying, Miles,you really messed up because this is it.
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You know, AJ basically sees his pathto the half million dollars.
But he was able to say that he would haveloved to be taken out in that way.
So at least he can recognize itas a good move when he sees it.
He would have thought it was a great move.
Yeah, that's that'snice of him to say that.
Like you tried, but it didn't work.
Yeah,but I would have been proud if he did it.
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And AJ and Kaitlyn are like,were sticking together, right?
They're not doing anything different.
They say they're going to the final two.
Each one will take the other one.
They called it the the perfect triangle.
So but now it's time to cannibalize.
Right.
We made it to the final four and now thepost-grad two have to turn on each other.
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Right. It's day 45.
I mean, how are these guys doing?
This is unbelievable.
A month and a half of eating riceand beans. Yeah.
It's crazy.
So Zara and AJ talk
and Zara says she'sstill taking AJ to the end.
But she saysyou know if Myles were to win today
we're going to have to think aboutgetting out Kaitlyn and ages.
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It's like, oh, I can't even think about,you know, like he's just not going to win.
You guys won't even acknowledgethe fact that it's a possibility.
Which is a crazy thing to say.Just say it.
Right? Right. Yeah.
Because if you're not going to do.
It in the game of survivor, right.
Just say it.
But, you know, she was so takenaback by that, like, oh sure.
Yeah. And it just saved him.
Now he can't even say he'sgoing to hell for I.
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Right.
That is very, very scary. Yeah.
I will say Sara was talking a lot about,you know, if Myles wins,
if Myles wins and I'm thinkinghas he ever won immunity?
We read that word like yeah.
Yep we.
Have Sara.
He's been so close right.
He's very very close many times.
So I think that's whyshe was so concerned.
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Yeah I think it was funnybecause then they go to Myles
and he calls ice Queen with Zara.
Is that ice queen I love it.
I was thinking that if if Mylesif the producers
wanted Myles to win they would come upwith some sort of puzzle or something.
That'swhat I was thinking at that point. Right.
If there's a puzzle Mylescould win a puzzle.
Yeah.
Well I'm I'm still sticking with Mylesspeaking about.
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And he said Zara you messed up my plan.
He doesn't trust her.
And he feels that
you knowmaybe AJ isn't feeling so well about him.
So now he has to go for Kaitlyn.
He's got to talk to Kaitlynand make him see that I'm the only path to
the final two.
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Yeah.
So Myles goal, for day 45 was to convinceKaitlyn
that he cannot go to the end with AJ,which we've seen.
Kaitlyn is a very loyal player.
He doesn't like to lie, so I don't thinkthis is going to go over well for Myles.
Right.
And Kaitlyn says I'm with you.
But I don't really believe he means that.
Yeah, it does seem like Myles best choicetaking Kaitlyn to the end.
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Oh I agree yeah right right.
I think Myles can definitely be Kaitlyn.
Right.
Well now it's time for the immunitychallenge of the Final Four.
It's a big one.
Yeah.
So the playerstoday have to unwind the rope
with their bodiesaround these obstacle course.
Then they have to decide how much ropethey need to get to their key.
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Once they get to their key,they throw the beanbags
to spin that thing off,and then they climb over.
A. Ramp.
A ramp, and then finally they do a balancething with the balls on a paddle.
So it's wow, we're hittingall the big points of Australians.
There is a. Lot it was.
But I liked how Kaitlyn was wrappingthe rope around his arm and then climbing
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instead of everyone.
It seemed like everyone else just hadlike a big, you know, pile of spaghetti.
Sort of.
Yes, but Kaitlyn went out and it wasn'tenough, right?
Well, like, no.
Apparently Miles can estimatebetter than Kaitlyn.
I guess Sally was. First off and running.
Yeah. Yeah,I was getting worried for Miles.
I thought that his rope was goingto get tangled, but. Right.
It's so fast.
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Yeah. I'm like,oh, he's going to be 15ft short.
And then he did it.
Yeah, you could tell looking in Miles eyeson this challenge that he wanted to win.
He was just like frantic the entire time.
It felt like. Right.
Talking to him so that we.
Yeah.
I don't feel like we've seen that sideof him during challenges before.
I think this time he really locked in
and really was passionate about winningbecause he knew he had to for his game.
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He really messed up last night.You need to. Win, right?
But you think,oh my gosh, what's going to happen?
What's what is going to happen?
Is, is Mylesgoing to be able to pull this off.
Yeah.
So Myles is off to a good start.
He gets to a huge lead.
Yeah.
He's hit those beanbagsspinning that thing off.
He gets it off first.
He gets to the puzzle first.
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And we see Kaitlynand AJ are trying to catch up to him.
Zara unfortunately is dead last right.
Yeah.
She was pretty far behind. Unfortunately.
And then we see Myles dealing with thelearning curve of this little ramp thing.
So this is really toughbecause if you knock one off
or one of themyou know somehow you lose one.
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You can't pick it up whilekeeping your other one's on.
So it's all or nothing, right?
It's start over bad.
It's you either have them allor you don't.
You don't. There's no in between.
And like, wow.
Like as soon as you let gothey are all off.
Oh that was a tough a tough one.
But Myles is talking himself through it.
He's telling himself to breathe.
He says there is a new challengeenthusiasm. Right.
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And then he's a jungle rat.He said something about the jungle rat.
But at one pointhe had two and dropped them.
Yeah.
Like oh geez.
While some of us said that.
I hear it from Myles.
Well yeah.
The underdog of underdogs right.
Oh yeah.
Well you could tellthat Myles really wanted it.
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And I was worriedhe was just going to get so nervous
and overthink itthat he was going to drop them. All right.
And then once Kaitlyn got to the puzzleI thought oh game over.
Yes, the challenge is going to be sweepand, you know.
Roll those things down thereand just get them in a second.
But lo and behold Myles pulls it off.
He gets his very first immunity challenge.
What he really needed at most.
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Bucket list. Check. And yeah.
And Zara's on the other side of the ramp.
Oh no. Yeah yeah.
So you know she.
Like congratulations to Mylesthat he seemed very emotional getting it.
It seemed to have meant a lot to him.
Both personally of course in the gamehe really needed it.
Yeah.
Well then they go backand Zara says worst case scenario,
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AJ, Kaitlyn and Zarahave to turn on each other.
And then she goes and asks Myles, well,what do you want out?
Yeah.
So Zara and Myles have worked togetherfor quite a long time.
They didn't vote together on the last voteand that obviously caused some tension.
But you knowthey have been allies for a while.
So yes I was likewell this is my best chance right.
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Myles thought they were going to votetogether on the last vote.
Yeah.
And obviously Myles has the power here.
So it makes sensethat Zara is targeting him first
because she knows thatAJ and Kaitlyn are really tight.
So her best option is to vote with Myles.
But she's their idea. Also I got.
Their idea is that they need eitherAJ or Kaitlyn to flip
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so that they have the majoritythree votes to send the other one home.
So they said, I think so.
I was like,I really don't have a preference.
Just whoever's willing to flip,they will target.
Right?
And they think AJ is more likelyto flip on Kaitlyn than that.
Kaitlyn flip on AJ. So they're like,all right, this is our plan.
We're going to get AJ to flip.
We're going to send Kaitlyn homeand let's see how that works.
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Well it doesn't work outwell because then AJ comes up
and he makes this announcement.
He says you know Kaitlyn and Iare not flipping on each other.
We are voting together.
So now we get into a tricky situation.
So if Zara and Myles vote together andthen AJ and Kaitlyn vote together, right.
We're in a tie and a final fourtie goes to fire.
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Right.
And then they say oh,and neither of them are very good at fire.
What, 45 days?
And you never thought thatmaybe you should practice fire.
It's like that last night.
Right now we need to look for an idolor practice fire.
Yeah.
Very even said,you know, I'm really not to be an addict.
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I was hoping I'd be able to talk myself
out of ever making fire.
Why do we always say
if you're going on survivor,you have to know how to make fire, right?
We have a lot of rules.
If you go on survivor,you got to know how to make fire.
You have to be able to tie a long sticktogether to get a key off.
You know, we have a lot of
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different.
Things that throw a sandbag.
Accurately.
Anyone gets cast on the next season,reach out to us.
We've got a list of thingswe want you to do.
Stand. Stand on a little stick.
Yeah, for an hour.
We'll give you a list of what to practice.
Well, AJ comes up with a good point.
So he says that.
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So as far as saying you knowlet's not even worry about fire.
Let's just be reasonable. Let's be adults.
How about you flip with us?
We all vote okay. When done deal.
AJ brings up a good point.
If AJ were to vote Kaitlyn,Kaitlyn were two votes Sara
and then Zara and Myles target AJ.
AJ goes home.
No fire, no chance of staying in the game.
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And so I mean once you said that I'm likeyeah that does actually sound like
some things are inthe house would do right right.
They know Myles wanted him out last time.
I would not put it past Mylesto get them out this way to kind of trick
him like sure. Right.
So AJ has no trust in them.
He said he's not doing that.
He said we're going to go deadlock andwe're going to do fire and that's that.
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So it is exciting thatthere's only four people left in the game,
but there's so many options.
We're really thinking
through every possible scenarioand there's a lot of them right.
And it seems like Zara is really
playing the game the most.
Oh she is, she's really thinking,what can I do?
I'm like trying every angle
so that I can stay.She wants to stay alive.
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She's gotten so far.
It's just a shame if she has to leave.
Yeah, she is fighting for her life.
So then Zara approaches Kaitlyn.
He says, no, I'm not going to death.
And that's kind of it.
That he even mentioned Izzat.
He said that he was very bizarre.And he's like, well, you understand?
And she says, well, not really.
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I don't know. Yeah.
Sara brings up a great point.
She saved Kaitlyn last night.
He was vulnerable without thethe necklace.
It would have been so easy for herto send him home.
And she did it.
And he's not really repaying the favor.
Right.
It doesn't necessarily seem like he'snicely targeting her.
He's just not going to help her.
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Yeah, which is too bad. Right?
So it's looking likeZara is going to make fire
and she's practicing,which is what we always tell people to do.
Yeah.
So I'm happythat she's finally practicing.
Yeah.
Well it's funny because she's saying,well, I'm not very good at fire, but
did anyone practicebefore going on survivor?
You have to practice.
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I don't know, Kaitlyn certainly did.
He knows he seems to have beenthe fire guy for their tribe for a while.
Right?
And Kaitlyn said that he will helpSara, right?
He can't help with the vote, but he saidhe will help her with the fire.
He's very upsetabout his position right now.
It is
interesting seeing this top fourbecause they've been friends for 45 days.
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They found each otherand they've worked together.
And so it's this weird little thing
where everyone's being supportiveof watching Zara make fire,
and they're being nice to herand they're trying to be helpful.
And she's like, AJ, do you want to try?
And it's this weird dynamic.
So I don't know.
It's it's nice to see a Final Fourthat likes each other
and has been working togetherbecause so many times in the game,
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you hear people say, were the final four,were the final five, it never happens.
All right.
So she's sitting right there.
These four playersthat have been doing a really great job
all gamewere able to make it to this point.
But now when they turn on each otherit's it's always sad to see it is.
But it is interesting that, you know,we're going to be the final four.
And their brains.
And you would have thoughtmiles of all people would still be there.
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I'm thinking that thempeople on the Braun team,
they're probably like, oh my gosh,when they're rewatching this on TV,
how did this happen?
How especially, the school teacher.
Oh, I can't remember his name right nowwho wanted him out a long time ago.
And he's probably like, how is he there?
And I'm not,you know, and a mad Max, right?
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You know.
Yeah.
They must be like, how is this happening?
Was that guy still in? Right.
Oh, he.
Really is the jungle rat.
He just can't stamp out yet.
And then.
But Kaitlyn and Mylestalk, and Myles wants to know if,
Kaitlyn will vote out AJ.
And he says, no, no, I won't vote for AJ,but I will take you to the final two.
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And I'm thinking, well,why would Myles buy that
if you can't hold up AJwhy would you think I'm going to you?
I would take you over AJ to the final two.
But I guess he think he maybe.
Myles sayswhile Kaitlyn will know he can't beat AJ.
Yeah well
it didn't seem like Kaitlynand AJ had been talking about it before
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saying why don't you just tell Mylesthat you'll take him to the final two
so that he'll you'reright about getting up.
All right.Yeah. And Kaitlyn did a good job.
I you know,I believed when he was saying that.
Yeah, but this is like the first timeKaitlyn's lied all game.
Yeah. Okay, good.
So I'm happy that he's finally gettinginto the spirit of survivor.
Right.
But yeah,I think that Myles is smart enough to know
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why would he take Myles over AJ
if you won't even vote out AJ nowyou know it doesn't make any sense right.
And then Myles speaks a little bitabout how everyone's coming to him.
And he says hey Jason Master Shark and
then AJ pitches Zara to Myles.
Yeah.
And so it's it's interesting
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Kaitlyn and AJ are worriedthat Myles will go to fire.
Not for a logical reason,but just for the drama of the game.
And I'm the lover that I really like us.
Yeah,I'm sitting there thinking the same thing.
This is going to happen Myles loves this.
And it makes for good TV.
I want to see the fire too right.
Oh my right knowshow to play to the TVs right.
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Show me the tension of building the fireand who's going to do it.
Well.
And then Zara going at it going out.
Keep trying. Trying.
And then she makesfire right before tribal.
Right.
Yeah. That was wonderful. Not AJ.
No I know how they did to him.
But Zara is not stopping.
She's fighting every inch. Yeah.
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So then we get to tribal
and we hear Zara say thatmaybe she made a mistake last night.
Maybe she should have listened to Milesbecause now she's being targeted.
Right.
But she says that she has no doubt
in her mindthat she will be making fire tonight.
And the jury's faces were so excited.
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They were excited to see a possible fire,just like I was.
I think everyone on that jury dislikesall four of them.
Well, I guess Zara they don't dislike,but everyone else they dislike, right?
Yeah,I think it's been a pretty chaotic four
that has wreaked havoc on the tribes
from day one to day 45, so they've burnta lot of people in their way.
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Right.
So Ali looks like I'm not interestedin any of that.
Sure. That he have was very nice.
Yeah. The sparkles are. Yeah, yeah.
So you're somaybe you're thinking that Kaitlyn can win
because the others who he would go againstare so hated.
Could be.
That the jury might just say,I can't stand those other people.
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Except for Zara.
Zara has, her buddies over there, somaybe Zara, but they're mad at Zara, too.
I don't know, it's very interesting and.
Well,this is the great part about survivor.
The people that you vote outhave to pick you right to be the winner.
That's what makes it so exciting.
Well, there's a lot of talk about what
Zara did wrong last nightand how it's going to affect her today.
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And they sort of end tribal byAJ saying that he's basing his vote
tonight or something like that,because he can spells out his name.
And then they come, you know, back,gosh, come.
Back from the commercial and,you know, they play it again like, ouch.
Yeah. Wow.
That's gotta hurt.
Yeah.
And he's been friends with herfor maybe not on the best terms,
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but they've lived together for 45 days.
He should have said it differently.
But I guess AJtoo knows how to play to the show.
Sure, sure. How to make a presentation.
So then they go to the voting boothsand I'm thinking,
all right, we're getting ready for fire.
They've got to be, you know, preppingthe flint in the back, ready to wheel out.
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All right here we go AJ versus Zara.
And we read you know one vote Zaraone vote AJ one vote Zara.
And I'm like all right herewe go. Next vote AJ right.
And JLP says the file or you knowwhatever number the next person.
That yeah. Is Zara.
Oh that oh that's so sad.
But I really thoughtshe was going to fire.
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Yeah right.
Well I thought it was very well spoken
when she left, she said it is a privilegeto be part of the graduate crew.
I mean you got to give her kudos.
She did an excellent job, right?
She a final female there.
And boy, did she stick to our guns.
And she fought every inch to get there.
And good job.
I can't say anything negative.
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Well in the beginning I thought you
said inthe beginning I said some negative things.
But at the end, she did such a great job.
She grew on us a lot. Yeah, yeah.
See you then.
Well, I like in Zara's testimonialat the end, her confessional,
she said, you.
But you boys better have a good storyto tell
when it comes down to the final two.
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So she's really bummed that she gotvoted out this close to the end.
And I don't blame her.
Yeah, it has to be devastating, right?
I don't understand why the females couldnot stick together like the males yet.
Nope. They just couldn't do it.
There's alwaysit always seems that in the games
of survivor survival,they're saying, let's stick together.
All the guys, all the women,but they never do in the end.
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Well,these did these, these three brains did.
Right?
Yeah.
So it's interesting to see that Miles
and AJ really didmake it very close to the end together.
And they brought their buddy Kayla.
Yeah. It's yes.
I a. So should we make some predictions.
But what's going to happenin the next episode.
Yeah. So oh let's see.
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What do you think.
Well I'm still voting for Mylesmy first choice.
And I would love to see him win.
So it comes down to if Kaitlyn can,you know,
stand on those little piecesof wood longer than anybody else.
And he takes Myles.
Right.
Is that woodor does it automatically go to fire.
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No I think for a final two situation
I think whoever wins immunity
tomorrow will be ablejust to choose who they take to final two.
Right. That's my understanding. Right.
And so he I think that Kaitlyn is goingto take AJ out and Myles will be out.
And then I think that AJ will win
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based on
playing a better strategic gamethan physical game.
I agree.
I think that Kaitlyn will most likely winand take AJ, but
I would hope that Myles can somehowsneak into the final two and win.
I don't know if he'll be able to do it,but that would be my hope.
It'd be exciting.
So I think Myles, based on his size,might be able to win this immunity,
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but can he stand the pain?
And I guess it does seem like Kaitlyncan endure more pain than anyone else.
I have to say I'm I'm voting for AJ.
Either way, I don't care what happens.
I just want AJ to win at this point.
But I think AJwill be in the final two for sure.
I don't see him winning this challengetomorrow, but I see him in the final two.
How is he not won any challenges?
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But I also have to say it seemed like thischallenge, his last challenge,
it was built once again to Myles heightand AJ and Kaitlyn were taller.
You sawKaitlyn had to spread his legs out.
Far. To squat and AJ was just too tall.
And I don't understand why this seasonthey're not making it towards everyone's
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body type.
I think that's just part of
the challenge of being on survivoris, you know, can you
can you handle it? I don't know, yeah.
Because even Zar was having troublelifting herself up over the tall rails
and everything. Right?
I don't know, it's very interesting.
But anyway, Zara, very sad to see you go.
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Thank you very much.
Interesting. Boys are. Men.
Yeah.
It was interesting that in, Myles,as he was
announcing his vote at the, confessional booth.
Oh, yeah.
He said that it was basically like paybackfor not sticking with him last,
last vote.
So unfortunately,I think Zara's vote last night taking out
Kate while it was it looked likeit would have been good for a game.
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I think it really, sort of led to her downfall this episode.
Which is too bad, right? Payback.
Unfortunately, because she did, Kaitlynand AJ weren't going to break.
And then Myles yeah said this is it.
But if she would have voted out one ofthe others and left Kate I don't know.
She might have been voted out again todaybecause Myles might have thought,
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well, I can probably win over Katebetter than I can Zara.
Yeah. Right.
So it's hard to say howit all would have turned out.
But it is too bad that you know
Zara's big vote is kind ofwhat led to her downfall this episode.
Yeah right.
But she did a great job andwe are so excited for the finale tomorrow.
I can't believe it's already here.
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We are so excited to see how theJungle Rat and what does AJ call himself?
The Emperor and then challenge enthusiast
Kaitlyn has come togetherfor the final three.
Record holder Kaitlyn.
Yeah, well,congratulations to all three of them.
Think of all the people thathave been here and have been eliminated.
Some I know absolutely no thought.
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Just and bad luck they were voted out.
You feel so badly for everyonewho is just like no one got to know them.
No one even you know,I just got voted out.
So congratulations to these top three.
They did an excellent job
and we're excited to see how it all workstomorrow.
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is taking homethe title of Sole Survivor tomorrow night.
We'll see you then. Bye.