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Recap of Episode 7 of Australian Survivor Brains V Brawn 2. Will the old alliances stick together?
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Hello and welcome to Americans TalkAustralian survivor I'm Rachel.
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Hello and welcome to Americans TalkAustralian survivor I'm Rachel.
Hello and welcome to Americans TalkAustralian survivor I'm Rachel.
I'm Leah. And I'm Matt.
Thanks for joining us.
We just watched episodeseven of Australian Survivor
brains versus brawn two,and there will be spoilers ahead.
Before we get into tonight's
episode, we just wanted to sharethat we will be here throughout this week.
Episode seven, eight and nine.
However, next week, starting a weekfrom today, we will be out of town
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and missing a week of podcasting,but we will be back the following week.
So stay tuned for that.
We open up on episode seven, and we seeKaren and Laura, who had been sent home
early by Max finding outthat Allie was voted out last night.
Yeah, I thought that was interesting.
It said that Max felt he was blindsidedright by the jungle rat War will continue,
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and that he realizes that the Jungle rathas an upper hand.
So I understand that Max felt blindsided.
Yeah. Like. Yeah.
So we knowas viewers that Caitlyn was the flip vote.
Who was responsible for Allie going homeinstead of Miles,
but it doesn't look likethey ever get to the bottom of it.
There's talk aboutwho did you vote for, blah blah blah.
Sara says that she kind of accidentallyvoted for Allie.
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Yeah. So sorry.
Yeah. So sorry.
Yeah.
Yeah,but no one ever seems to figure out that
Yeah,but no one ever seems to figure out that
Caitlyn also had to cast a vote to Allie,and he doesn't really report anything.
I guess his plan was always to bepart of the boys
voting out a girl,but still, Max had instructed him
to vote out Myles,so I never saw any fallout from that.
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So good for Caitlynfor kind of escaping that.
But he seems to befrom what they're showing us.
They're not showing much of him. Right.
So he looks like a quiet person, butobviously he's very athletic and smart,
is playing an
important role in the game, butit just seems that no one else knows it.
Yeah.
Good point.
The graduatesfeel that they're in a fantastic spot.
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So we've got Corin, Zara, Myles and AJ,
and Caitlyn all feeling good.
And any time you see a group of peoplefeeling good, what's to come?
Changes a tribe swap.
So the players head into the rewardand they,
the bronze find out that Allie went homeand Rich was very happy.
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He was.
He was.
Karen and Laura are saying that they wish
they had been there, so they're kind ofspilling the secrets, right?
But they didn't really,like, clarify that at all.
Maybe they just cut it out of the show.
Right.
Right.
But they're really stirring up suspicion
and keeping the other tribe engagedright there.
And they're going on.
And Max saysthat he was in the crosshairs.
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So, I mean, yeah,who knows what the other team's thinking.
They're all spilling beans.
Interesting response.
We typically see tribes try to keep quietwhen asked
about what happened at tribal,but not this season.
No, this season seems to be everyone'stalking.
Yeah, a lot of talking.
Yes, a lot of beans spill.
Yes, a lot of beans spill.
Yeah.
So JLP says that they are thereto play for Triple Jeopardy.
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Yes, yes.
And everyone thinks it's worth it.
But then he revealsthat it's time to drop your buffs.
Oh, but I felt it was so earlyand it looked
like some of the players felt that. Also,
like some of the players felt that. Also,
it just seems like you said seven.
Yeah, there's a lot.
There's a lot of peoplestill left to mix them all up.
I think it's fun.
It makes you work with different people.
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It keeps the game from being predictable.
I think it's exciting.
Yeah, I hear what you're saying,but I wish
they would not have kept the same names.It's kind of.
It's is confusing.
Who brand brains. Way there. Over there.
I just wish they had new namesand new brains.
The old bronze. Yeah.
Yeah.
They need a to just go by.
Red or green would be easier.
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Right. But.
Well, that's the title of the whole showso that they have to keep it.
Oh I guess you're right.
You're right, you're right.
You're right, you're right.
Well, I liked how they revealed that the,Who is on what team.
So it seems like most of the time we seeJonathan or Jeff
pass out a tray and everyone you knowtakes their buffs
and everyone opens it at the same time,and then it's crazy.
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You're trying to figure out who's on whatteam. Sure.
But tonight they hadall of the players come up individually,
pick out their buff, reveal the color,and then walk over to their mats
so we could see in real timekind of process it as it was happening.
People were getting nervous on the map.
I really like this reveal.I agree with you.
It was it was exciting.
I was wondering from a logisticsstandpoint, what would happen
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if there were three of onecolor left at the end, right?
So, and then all of a sudden you just know
that those final three people were all onone side.
Had it worked out that way.
You know, it's kind of like a riskthat it could be a real dud.
I wonder if there's a producer
kind of moving things aroundevery time they pick a color. Yes.
I know we had a, productiongentlemen who works on survivor.
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Reach out to us last season,and I hope you're still listening.
And if you could give us any clues,we would enjoy it.
That would be great.
We'd love to know the behind the scenes.
So we do the big reveal.
And on the new brain tribe,we see Ben, Laura,
Morgan, Kate, Myles, Zara, Jesse and Max.
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So it's five versus four.
So more original brand versusfour of the original brains.
Mile is miles is certainly not happy.
Zar is not happy.
Laura had attention already.
Laura said she feels she's screwed.
And then we see the brand,which is Ursula, Kailyn, Rich,
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AJ, Logan, Noonan, Polly,Kristen and Karen.
So this is really interesting.
There's four peoplewho just swapped brain to brawn.
Plus,Rich was the original brain to brawn swap.
And then for original brawn.
So depending on where Rich goes it'seither a 5 to 4.
4 to 5. Right. That's that's exciting
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because you don't knowwhat's going to happen in riches.
So you never know how he'sgoing to flip or whatever.
Yeah.
He's kind of the fireballthat you want to see, right?
No idea how he's going to land.
So I thought this was a pretty goodsplit up.
Normally, well, not normally,but every once in a while,
you see kind of a blowout,
you see kind of a blowout,
you know,three people versus ten or whatever.
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So it was exciting to see a pretty evenlymatched brain versus brawn.
Yep. And then they go right into the
the challenge.
Yeah. So this was fun.The players swim out.
They have to rememberthe order of the pictures. Then
they get pulled back in by their tribeand they have to recreate the photos.
So these memory games are always funto see if you can play along at home.
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They were tough ones because the,you know, they're all pictures.
They're not letters or anything.It's hard to get them to match up.
But that's swimming at the beginning.
Yeah. And. Yeah.
So you're right in there.
It seems like swimming is an importantaspect of
being the sort of being a survivor. Right.
I mean, yeah, it can really makeor break your game. Sure.
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Yeah I don't yeah.
Everyone should be practicing swimmingif you're planning on.
Going out thereand treading water and wrestling.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And there's a couple of thingsto be good at.
So you see, the brawntake a pretty fast lead right away.
And then it comes down to Ursulaversus Kate,
and the Ursula gets it wrong initially.
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And we're thinking,all right, it's in the bag for Kate.
And then she gets it wrong. Right?They both have to swim back out.
And in the back end, it didn't seem likeUrsula was really going that
that urgently.
You know, at the beginningwhen she got it wrong,
she's just kind of like sticking around.
But she could have had a big jump,
right?
You know what I'm talking about.Because she got it wrong.
And then she, she's like,
And then she, she's like,
I'm kind of waiting around to see if Kategot it right.
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And then. Yeah.
And then she took off andwent back out there, and that's too bad.
They had to go back and forthon their own.
They didn't have anyoneto pull them back in.
Yeah, that's a big issue.
And that looked like
they were really drained of energywhen they came walking out.
Right?I mean, it must have been a long swim.
Plus, you're trying to remember, you know,your whole team's yelling at you.
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Come on, come on.
And you'retrying to remember the combination
and you're still processingthese new teams, right?
And they weren't easy symbols.
They weren't like, yeah, they weren'tjust like regular emojis or something.
Well, Ursula snags it for the brawn
and they go hometo enjoy their triple decker sandwiches.
But then we really didn'tsee much about the sandwiches.
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I mean, we saw them on the table,but there really wasn't that much,
you know, the no, no clue.
You know, like we, we see so frequentlywhen there's a food reward.
Yeah.
There was just too much elsehappening this. Right.
I guess so, right.
Just everyone trying to figure out.
Yeah. Their new team.
Yeah.
And so we see a lot happening.
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Karen is thrilled to see the shelter.
She is really happy with the setup.
However, she's not so happy to be backwith the rich.
Right.
But it seems like almosteverybody's like that right?
Yeah.
Everyone has someonethat they don't want to be with. Yeah.
And of course they're all together.
So we see I thought it was kind of funny.
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Richard's talking about how the culture isbetter at the brawn and,
Karen tells us in the confessional that,
Karen tells us in the confessional that,
he is the bad culture over at the brains.
Third's no brains.
So we see there's been no lovelost in their time apart.
And then we see Zara and Myles go outlooking for an idol
together. Yeah.
Flipping back over to the originalor the new brains.
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Yeah.
My sons are talking
about how they're each other's number one,so they're going to stick together.
Well, they're looking for an idolMax finds. Yes.
Oh, my gosh.
It was kind of strange. Did you see that?
He was at one tree,and then all of a sudden,
he just casually walks overto the other tree and finds it.
Yeah, it's like 10 or 15ft away.
And then he just walks over, reaches up,and there it is.
It just seemed like an odd progressionof where to go next.
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You must have seen somethingabout that tree
that made them think, oh, that's somethingthat someone would hide something in.
Or someone told them,
you guys say that
every time someone finds an idol,and I don't think they're doing that.
Maybe we're just being cynical tonight.
Could be.
I don't think we going to say tonight.
Tonight?
I feel tonightwe're at maybe in a strange place.
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Who knows?
I thinkMax found the idol on his own merit.
I hope so.
Well,that can really change his game, right?
Because, absolutely, he didn't haveas many friends as he thought.
And now he has an idol,which is wonderful.
Good for Max. Right?
Good for Max. Right?
And now it's already timefor the immunity challenge as fast.
So it's a pretty intense one.
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You have to kind of unscramblethe ropes, you hacky,
you move your chest all over the chestlike crazy.
you move your chest all over the chestlike crazy.
Moving that chest. Yeah.
And then they have to get the tiles up.
So right awaywe see the brains pulling ahead.
They get to the
puzzle part first with the tiles,
and then it comesall the way around to the brawn
coming up to the puzzle part,and no one can get it.
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And everyone swapping in and outuntil Rich
gets going for the brawnand he just gets it.
Not right away.
It takes a couple tries,but once he gets it,
he gets to right away,which is unbelievable.
I mean, it looks like a very difficultthing to do with that big long pole.
It's very impressivewhat Richard was able to do.
And I'm sitting at home thinking, okay,well that's in the bag
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number three right here.
Head right, right around the corner.Glad to get it.
And then out of nowhere,Ben and PD are, Or.
Sorry, Ben and Jessiecome out of nowhere and get all three.
Right.
So the brains win immunity.
Unexpectedly,they were ahead at the beginning,
then they fell behind,and now they're back.
So this was a good challenge.
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It was something a little bit differentthan what we've seen before.
Getting the tiles up with the giant polelooked incredibly difficult,
and it challenged the playersto use different skills
than we've seen, tested in other forms.
I agree with you, Rachel.
I thought it was very fun to see somethingso different.
I mean, we've seen the heavy chest before,
but that at the end was very interesting.
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Right? So they are mixing it up, right?
So they are mixing up different challengesthis time,
like I talked about before,when they had to start the fire,
when half the team or two of the teammembers
had to start the fire in order toto win the event at the end.
So this is a different thing to pushingthat tile off with just one stick.
So you have to balance it.
It's a long stick.Two people have to work together.
So that's good.
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Yeah.
So the people behind the scenes who arecoming up with these ideas, the producers,
thank you.
And also it's interesting for the players
I'm sure, because they're not theoh I didn't think about that.
Right.
Yeah.
This is something different.
Oh I didn't plan for this exactly.
Probably not a skillanyone's practiced at home.
Right, right.
But there was no puzzle involved, correct?
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Yeah. In the in the whole. The whole day.
The whole episode.
Well, I guess the memories.
It feels like a puzzle. I guess. So, yeah.
Not your traditional jigsaw puzzle, right?
You're right.
That was a that was definitely a memory.
Correct.
Yeah.
Well, thank you for keeping uson our toes, Australian survivor Studios.
So we head back to the brawn tribe,brawn camp
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and see who's going to be the first onegoing home out of this new tribe.
So it seems pretty clear that there'sthe four original brawn before
original brains, and Richard's kind ofin the middle, and it's all up to him.
Yeah, well, it sounds
like they want Noonan out at first, right?
Yeah, that's who Karen pitched.
And I'm wondering why I never really gota great answer throughout the episode.
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Why she was being targeted overanyone else.
Yeah, I'm not sure.
Has they had a run in it?
Did they know each other?
Did they know each other?
I guess the only thing I can think of is
between Noonan, Ursula, Polly and Kristen.
I guess Polly is pretty athletic.
Ursula is very athletic.
I would say Kristen and Noonan are fairlyequal in my book in terms of athleticism.
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I mean, Kristenreally pulled ahead with the fire
and that challengeyou were just talking about.
And then Noonanreally helps out with puzzles.
So I think they both kind ofbring something to the tribe.
So I would have liked
to have a little bit more historyas to why Noonan was the target.
Right.
Noonanseems like a fun person to hang out with.
Yeah, I like seeing her on the screen.
I'm not ready for her to go home. Yeah.
All right, same here.
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All right, same here.
Then.
So then you see the bronze talking, and,
Ursula is not saying anything,so Noonan says,
listen, we have to vote together.
Just stick together.
And Ursula is not into this.
Yeah.
So Ursula has already announcedto everyone that she's on the bottom.
She's been on the bottom.
She's one of the only people been votedfor on this tribe.
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And then she kind of gets pretty upset.
She says, you know, you're talking to melike I'm a dog and I'm watching it.
And I'm thinking,yeah, she's kind of right.
They're not being very respectful.
I think they're trying to include Ursula,but she's
so withdrawnthat it's making the other bond mad,
and everyone's getting emotionaland it's not really working out.
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And I'm looking at it and I'm thinking,if I were Ursula, I think I'd flip.
What would you guys write?
I was thinking, thinking the same thing
because she's going around saying,you know what was me?
Everybody.I'm the only one with a vote or whatever.
But I think she should havejust kept that to herself
and then just approached the other sideand said, hey, you know, I'll work
with you. I'mnot that big of a fan of these other guys.
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They haven't been treating me very well.
Oh yeah? Yeah, yeah, I got me. Yeah.
Right.
I know I'm sure I wouldn't work with themeither, because they were not very neat.
But I wonder, were they that mean?
I don't know.
The problem is,we don't really know the whole story.
Is Ursula exaggerating it?
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Yeah, but probably
if she really feels that way,then we must accept her how she feels.
So if they should not, they should be moredelicate when they're talking to her.
Well, I'm looking at the water well sceneand they were talking down to her,
you know, union saying,you know, she's not doing.
And yeah, Ursula is right.
They're not speaking to herlike she's theirs just in that.
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You're right, you're right. Yeah.
I feel like people have flipped over a lotless in the history of survivor.
So I think that she would be,justified in that to flip.
Also, just playing from the bottomthe whole game, she's
always been getting votesthat every tribal council
people have been fairly vocal,that they're not a huge fan of hers.
So I'm thinking, why would she wantto keep playing with these people?
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Just switch it up.
Play with someone?No, right. You're right.
But Polly is like,all right, let's just work together.
We'll work this out tomorrow. List.
For this vote, we have to stick together.
And I see what he's saying.
You know,let's let's just do it right now.
But things never work out that easy,and it's never the way
it isat the beginning of these negotiations,
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this part of the show,it never sticks around the same way.
Yeah.
And then you see oh go ahead, Rachel,now it's time for Polly to pull Rick.
Yeah. And Polly pitches low.
Yeah.
Polly is looking for Ridge to flipand they kind of decide.
Logan, Kristen wants to vote out Logan.
It sounds like,And Rich is on board with that.
It sounds like,And Rich is on board with that.
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He thinks that,
He thinks that,
you know, he's been after Logan before.
He wants revenge on her.
And then Polly is kind of selling itto him, saying, you know, this solidifies
your spot at the merge.This is it for you.
And I'm kind of looking at himlike, well, Rich
kind of has a spot at the mergewith the brain, so I don't know.
I feel like he could really go either way.
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And I don't know that eitherone would be better for his game overall.
Yeah, I think it's it's difficult to judgebecause Rich seemed so convincing.
Yep. I'll vote for Logan. Right?
I mean, it didn't seem likehe was wavering at all.
And then if you're out there playing,you know, like, oh, he just told me
he was going to vote for, you know,and then it things just get so mixed up
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and people just aren't necessarilytelling you the truth all the time.
You don't know.
It looks it looks challenging. Yeah.
Well then all of a sudden Richards with AJand he tells them that Polly asked him.
Polly asks him to vote for Loganand AJ says he agrees.
Right.
But then AJ sayshe wants to play both sides
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so he's not going to vote for Logan,and Rich does not like this at all.
Rich Sutton Salmon says, if you don't dowhat I say, you're the next one out.
What did you think about that?
I see what Rich is saying,and I understand
you're telling me who to vote for, butyou're not going to vote for that person
so that you look better.
And I look like the bad guy.
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No, thanks. Because then whatif it doesn't come through?
Then I really look like the bad guy,even though you were behind me.
So I understand what he's saying.
You vote that way too,or I'm not voting that way.
I don't know, I think it's goodto have a double agent on your side.
I think that Rich and AJ could have gonepretty far
being this, like, unsuspecting duo.
One on each side.
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But I think that we saw
Rich's game and right in front of themwhen he threatened AJ like that.
I think that the end of the episodewould have looked incredibly different
if Rich had just said, okay.
But you know, Rich had even said itat the beginning of their conversation.
He was like, you know,
I think it's irrational to go after Logan,but I'll do it if you want.
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So I think that's just how Rich plays.
He's just there for fun,and that's why we enjoy watching him.
So he kind of knows thathe may not be making
the absolute smartest moves,but he is there for a show.
I don't know though.
I feel like he, he could have benefited
from having AJ on the other sidebecause let's say it works out.
Logan goes home and Richand AJ both voted for Logan.
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Well, now they get back to campand they're not going to know
who the next vote is.What if they get an idol?
What if something changes? You never know.
I think it's
always good to have that informationkind of opening up on the opposite side.
I see what you're saying. Yep.
You're opening my eyes to it.
I understand,but it's still just a scary situation
that someone's telling you kind of whichway to vote, and they're not doing it.
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Yeah, okay.
Well, she's not even telling himwhich way to vote,
which is going to vote Logan, regardlessthat he was.
Yes, I just said AJ says hi.
Yes, I just said AJ says hi.
I don't want anyone to knowwhat I'm doing. I'm not voting.
I want I want to be part of this,but I'm not going to vote.
I'm not sticking my neck out.
I think I would feel the same wayin this situation. Yes.
That's great.
That's great.
Well, then we see
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Ursula talking to Logan,and it looks like Kristen's there,
and they're kind of talking about, youknow, how Newnan reacted at a challenge.
And Ursula says, I want Noonan out.
I thought this was going to bea bigger conversation.
I thought, Logan, jump on to this,tell her the plan for tonight.
But she doesn't. Right.
And I was just listening, right. She.
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Yeah. She didn't say much.
And Ursula was upset
because Noonan rolled her eyeswhen they got back from the challenge.
When talking about Ursula. Yeah.
So it sounds like Ursula
and Noonan are really just clashingand anything is going to set them off.
Yeah, but the next thing is, see, Ursula,tell Noonan
she has and decideif she will vote for Noonan or Logan.
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I was just crazy.
Yeah.
This is a very interesting play on Ursula.
Like we were saying earlier,it seems like kind of
keep it in the darkif you're going to flip,
but she's been very openthat she may or may not flip.
I don't know how this is going to gofor the rest of their relationship.
I think Ursula is just proving to us over
and over againthat she does not trust Noonan.
She does not want to work with Noonan.She doesn't like Noonan.
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So I think just
So I think just
you have to spell it out,but they have to go their separate ways.
Ursula has to flip.
Ursula has to flip.
How crazy would it have beenif Rich flipped from brains to brawn?
And then Ursula flips from Brand Friend?
Yeah, and then it all ends upkind of becoming AJ if he flips.
Right.So it was there's a lot going on there.
I was excited to seewhat could have been that Flynn.
(21:42):
Right.
And then so oh go ahead.
Yeah. Then the craziest thing happens.
AJ comes up to Karenand he says let's get out rich.
So I think this is becauseRich had just kind of threatened him
I believe so, but he also saidbecause he saw that the brawn team
was not united and he didn't want thingsto backfire in his face.
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So I think there is all kinds of rich.
And he saw how they were not united,
maybe thought, oh, I don't knowif this vote's really going to happen.
Yeah.
AJ has a pretty good sense of the game,I think.
And he's realizingthat if he were to flip with the brawn
and try to ridethe brawn coattails to merge,
it may not get him there because the brawnor so unsteady to begin with. Yes.
Even though the original brains
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don't really like each otherthat much there at least.
Well, Karenand Rich don't really like each other, but
if you take Rich out of the picture,they're a little bit more cohesive. Yes.
Yeah.
They're also not so vocalabout how they don't like each other, not
confronting each other.
Yeah.
They play a very different gamethan each other. Yes.
So I thought this was a great move by AJ.
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Kind of saying, you know, if you'regoing to get me, I'll get your first.
And so he's kind of running around,you know,
everyone's getting ready for tribal richeswalking up.
And he's like,you know, we're going to vote rich now.
And I'm thinking, I don't know.
I don't know if he sold it enough.
I'm looking at Kristen and Ursulaby the fire.
They're just like,what do you think of that?
They I don't I'm thinkingas we're going into tribal,
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I don't know if he sold it well enough.
Right.
And then we go to tribal,
and it seems likeRich is answering every other question.
It seemed like to me
she does
a lot of rich, a lot of questions to Rich.
Well, he's a big part of this.
Yes, he was a big part of last episode,
even though he wasn't at tribal council,and he's a big part of this one.
Right? He's made his mark on the game.
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He has.
He has.
There was a lot of discussionabout original tribal lines.
And are you going to stick with it?And I thought Logan made a good point.
She was saying that,
everyone wants to playlike we're at the merge,
and if we play it toosoon, we're not going to make it there.
Kind of.
Kind of.
Yeah.
So that was an interesting perspective,right?
I guess she's trying to say we all need towork together because now we're a tribe.
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Yeah. She also had a great pitch.
I thought by saying, you know,I don't know how many kids Ursula has.
I haven't asked Paula yetabout why I was a paramedic
and really trying to convince themto get her to stay in this position.
Right? Yeah.
Yeah, I was impressed by that. Right.
I think she she pitched a good cellfor why she should stay,
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even though it's not like a real reason.
She's just trying to get at everyone'semotions.
Right? That she's like,she's like a human.
She has feelings for people or whatever.
Right?
She's she's thinking about peoplenot as players, but as people.
Yeah.
So going into it, it'shard to tell what's going to happen.
There's a lot of discussion ofare you going to stay loyal?
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Are you going to flip?
Who are you going to flip
with what this will bring even meanwhen there's three names out on the table?
Yeah.
And suddenly it is time to vote.
In the voting booth, we see Rich say,some of them pretty dramatic.
You said that,you write some Logan's name,
and then he says, and it's Laura next.
Yeah, yeah.
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He's really mad at the Vibe Tribeor the Vibe Alliance.
Yeah, but did Laura or Rich?
Yeah, but then Laura,she'd still want to work with Rich.
Yeah.
I thought that she was still planningto work with Rich.
Yeah,because she kept trying to save them.
Well, I guess he doesn't feelthat she's not even on his truck.
And he knows thathe's ready to vote somebody up
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on the other tribe.
on the other tribe.
So he is pretty sure
that Logan is getting some votes tonight.
And then the votes are read.
We see one vote for Noonan, onevote for Logan, and the rest are for Rich.
So Rich ends up being the next personvoted out of the game.
Yeah, Rich.
So I vote.
When we saw that at the end,we saw how everyone voted.
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Yes. Yeah, he sure did.
I thought he left with a smile.
He seemed pretty, you know,he wasn't angry.
He did say, get those brains.
But I
thought he, you know, did a nice jobwalking out.
There was no complaints, right?
He seemed happy.
He seemed happy.
You could tell that he took thisas a game.
He didn't take anything toopersonally. Correct.
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And he seemed to be having a lot of funin the game.
He made for great TV,which as a film producer,
that's probably his goal in daily life.
And he achieved it here on survivor.
So great job Rich.
He was fun to watch.
He was fun to watch.
I guess not so great to work with,
but it was interesting to watch him.
Rachel, you made a great point.
I forgot that because of his workhe knows what is right.
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Like you just said, good TV.
So he what he was doingthe filmmaker right that was wonderful.
I thought it was interestingthat Ursula voted for Noonan,
and she was the only onewho didn't vote for Rich Joe.
Was she was she? Is she that out of touch?
Did they not tell her,
or did she think that anyone elsewas going to vote for Noonan?
Or was it just,
(26:40):
an exclamation point like, I'mcoming for you and I still don't like you?
I don't
know,interpreted it as a declaration of war.
We're kind of against Noonan saying,I'm flipping
and I'm voting for my own tribe.
I don't know that it was the right move
because she knew that the vote was rich.
She didn't really talk to anyoneabout voting
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for Noonanunless we missed it, on the show.
So I don't think that it was the besttime to do that.
I think she should have voted for.
Gone back and then gotten with
Karen or Logan and said, you know,I want to flip.
Who are we taking out next?
Yeah, because Noonan could end upsince she voted with the other people.
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She might say, you know,we just got to get Ursula out, right?
And she might be able to do it.
So, yeah, Ursula should have waited.
I, I agree with you,but Ursula is, a contender.
I mean, when she's in the
in the challenges,I mean, she's she's really in shape and.
Wow, she's so cool in that big chestand everything.
(27:42):
Yeah, right.
She's very strong.
She's a power lifter around, right?
I think we're kind of
getting to that point in the game whereeveryone brings something to the table,
and every person that's lostis going to have an impact
on the entire tribeand the rest of the game.
I've also noticed that I feel likeI like all the players quite a bit,
and I feel like every timethey bring up a name like, hi,
(28:05):
oh yeah, right, right.
It seems like a so it's a, it'san exciting part of the season to be yet.
And then they both have Flint nowso they have fire.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
Finally
Finally
we've been waiting.
we've been waiting.
Yeah.
So I'm glad everyone knows fire.
All right.
So another episode coming up soon.
Yes. Will be back tomorrow.
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In the meantime, don't forget to follow uson Instagram at at survivor, TikTok
at survivor, and send us an emailat eight, Australian Survivor at gmail.com
and let us know whyyou think Ursula voted for Noonan.
Was it on purpose?
Was it a confusion? Was it a statement?
Let us knowand we will talk to you tomorrow.
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Hello and welcome to Americans TalkAustralian survivor I'm Rachel.
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Hello and welcome to Americans TalkAustralian survivor I'm Rachel.
Hello and welcome to Americans TalkAustralian survivor I'm Rachel.
I'm Leah. And I'm Matt.
Thanks for joining us.
We just watched episodeseven of Australian Survivor
brains versus brawn two,and there will be spoilers ahead.
Before we get into tonight's
episode, we just wanted to sharethat we will be here throughout this week.
Episode seven, eight and nine.
However, next week, starting a weekfrom today, we will be out of town
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and missing a week of podcasting,but we will be back the following week.
So stay tuned for that.
We open up on episode seven, and we seeKaren and Laura, who had been sent home
early by Max finding outthat Allie was voted out last night.
Yeah, I thought that was interesting.
It said that Max felt he was blindsidedright by the jungle rat War will continue,
(00:46):
and that he realizes that the Jungle rathas an upper hand.
So I understand that Max felt blindsided.
Yeah. Like. Yeah.
So we knowas viewers that Caitlyn was the flip vote.
Who was responsible for Allie going homeinstead of Miles,
but it doesn't look likethey ever get to the bottom of it.
There's talk aboutwho did you vote for, blah blah blah.
Sara says that she kind of accidentallyvoted for Allie.
(01:10):
Yeah. So sorry.
Yeah. So sorry.
Yeah.
Yeah,but no one ever seems to figure out that
Yeah,but no one ever seems to figure out that
Caitlyn also had to cast a vote to Allie,and he doesn't really report anything.
I guess his plan was always to bepart of the boys
voting out a girl,but still, Max had instructed him
to vote out Myles,so I never saw any fallout from that.
(01:32):
So good for Caitlynfor kind of escaping that.
But he seems to befrom what they're showing us.
They're not showing much of him. Right.
So he looks like a quiet person, butobviously he's very athletic and smart,
is playing an
important role in the game, butit just seems that no one else knows it.
Yeah.
Good point.
The graduatesfeel that they're in a fantastic spot.
(01:53):
So we've got Corin, Zara, Myles and AJ,
and Caitlyn all feeling good.
And any time you see a group of peoplefeeling good, what's to come?
Changes a tribe swap.
So the players head into the rewardand they,
the bronze find out that Allie went homeand Rich was very happy.
(02:16):
He was.
He was.
Karen and Laura are saying that they wish
they had been there, so they're kind ofspilling the secrets, right?
But they didn't really,like, clarify that at all.
Maybe they just cut it out of the show.
Right.
Right.
But they're really stirring up suspicion
and keeping the other tribe engagedright there.
And they're going on.
And Max saysthat he was in the crosshairs.
(02:37):
So, I mean, yeah,who knows what the other team's thinking.
They're all spilling beans.
Interesting response.
We typically see tribes try to keep quietwhen asked
about what happened at tribal,but not this season.
No, this season seems to be everyone'stalking.
Yeah, a lot of talking.
Yes, a lot of beans spill.
Yes, a lot of beans spill.
Yeah.
So JLP says that they are thereto play for Triple Jeopardy.
(03:01):
Yes, yes.
And everyone thinks it's worth it.
But then he revealsthat it's time to drop your buffs.
Oh, but I felt it was so earlyand it looked
like some of the players felt that. Also,
like some of the players felt that. Also,
it just seems like you said seven.
Yeah, there's a lot.
There's a lot of peoplestill left to mix them all up.
I think it's fun.
It makes you work with different people.
(03:22):
It keeps the game from being predictable.
I think it's exciting.
Yeah, I hear what you're saying,but I wish
they would not have kept the same names.It's kind of.
It's is confusing.
Who brand brains. Way there. Over there.
I just wish they had new namesand new brains.
The old bronze. Yeah.
Yeah.
They need a to just go by.
Red or green would be easier.
(03:43):
Right. But.
Well, that's the title of the whole showso that they have to keep it.
Oh I guess you're right.
You're right, you're right.
You're right, you're right.
Well, I liked how they revealed that the,Who is on what team.
So it seems like most of the time we seeJonathan or Jeff
pass out a tray and everyone you knowtakes their buffs
and everyone opens it at the same time,and then it's crazy.
(04:06):
You're trying to figure out who's on whatteam. Sure.
But tonight they hadall of the players come up individually,
pick out their buff, reveal the color,and then walk over to their mats
so we could see in real timekind of process it as it was happening.
People were getting nervous on the map.
I really like this reveal.I agree with you.
It was it was exciting.
I was wondering from a logisticsstandpoint, what would happen
(04:29):
if there were three of onecolor left at the end, right?
So, and then all of a sudden you just know
that those final three people were all onone side.
Had it worked out that way.
You know, it's kind of like a riskthat it could be a real dud.
I wonder if there's a producer
kind of moving things aroundevery time they pick a color. Yes.
I know we had a, productiongentlemen who works on survivor.
(04:51):
Reach out to us last season,and I hope you're still listening.
And if you could give us any clues,we would enjoy it.
That would be great.
We'd love to know the behind the scenes.
So we do the big reveal.
And on the new brain tribe,we see Ben, Laura,
Morgan, Kate, Myles, Zara, Jesse and Max.
(05:12):
So it's five versus four.
So more original brand versusfour of the original brains.
Mile is miles is certainly not happy.
Zar is not happy.
Laura had attention already.
Laura said she feels she's screwed.
And then we see the brand,which is Ursula, Kailyn, Rich,
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AJ, Logan, Noonan, Polly,Kristen and Karen.
So this is really interesting.
There's four peoplewho just swapped brain to brawn.
Plus,Rich was the original brain to brawn swap.
And then for original brawn.
So depending on where Rich goes it'seither a 5 to 4.
4 to 5. Right. That's that's exciting
(05:55):
because you don't knowwhat's going to happen in riches.
So you never know how he'sgoing to flip or whatever.
Yeah.
He's kind of the fireballthat you want to see, right?
No idea how he's going to land.
So I thought this was a pretty goodsplit up.
Normally, well, not normally,but every once in a while,
you see kind of a blowout,
you see kind of a blowout,
you know,three people versus ten or whatever.
(06:16):
So it was exciting to see a pretty evenlymatched brain versus brawn.
Yep. And then they go right into the
the challenge.
Yeah. So this was fun.The players swim out.
They have to rememberthe order of the pictures. Then
they get pulled back in by their tribeand they have to recreate the photos.
So these memory games are always funto see if you can play along at home.
(06:37):
They were tough ones because the,you know, they're all pictures.
They're not letters or anything.It's hard to get them to match up.
But that's swimming at the beginning.
Yeah. And. Yeah.
So you're right in there.
It seems like swimming is an importantaspect of
being the sort of being a survivor. Right.
I mean, yeah, it can really makeor break your game. Sure.
(07:00):
Yeah I don't yeah.
Everyone should be practicing swimmingif you're planning on.
Going out thereand treading water and wrestling.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And there's a couple of thingsto be good at.
So you see, the brawntake a pretty fast lead right away.
And then it comes down to Ursulaversus Kate,
and the Ursula gets it wrong initially.
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And we're thinking,all right, it's in the bag for Kate.
And then she gets it wrong. Right?They both have to swim back out.
And in the back end, it didn't seem likeUrsula was really going that
that urgently.
You know, at the beginningwhen she got it wrong,
she's just kind of like sticking around.
But she could have had a big jump,
right?
You know what I'm talking about.Because she got it wrong.
And then she, she's like,
And then she, she's like,
I'm kind of waiting around to see if Kategot it right.
(07:43):
And then. Yeah.
And then she took off andwent back out there, and that's too bad.
They had to go back and forthon their own.
They didn't have anyoneto pull them back in.
Yeah, that's a big issue.
And that looked like
they were really drained of energywhen they came walking out.
Right?I mean, it must have been a long swim.
Plus, you're trying to remember, you know,your whole team's yelling at you.
(08:04):
Come on, come on.
And you'retrying to remember the combination
and you're still processingthese new teams, right?
And they weren't easy symbols.
They weren't like, yeah, they weren'tjust like regular emojis or something.
Well, Ursula snags it for the brawn
and they go hometo enjoy their triple decker sandwiches.
But then we really didn'tsee much about the sandwiches.
(08:24):
I mean, we saw them on the table,but there really wasn't that much,
you know, the no, no clue.
You know, like we, we see so frequentlywhen there's a food reward.
Yeah.
There was just too much elsehappening this. Right.
I guess so, right.
Just everyone trying to figure out.
Yeah. Their new team.
Yeah.
And so we see a lot happening.
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Karen is thrilled to see the shelter.
She is really happy with the setup.
However, she's not so happy to be backwith the rich.
Right.
But it seems like almosteverybody's like that right?
Yeah.
Everyone has someonethat they don't want to be with. Yeah.
And of course they're all together.
So we see I thought it was kind of funny.
(09:06):
Richard's talking about how the culture isbetter at the brawn and,
Karen tells us in the confessional that,
Karen tells us in the confessional that,
he is the bad culture over at the brains.
Third's no brains.
So we see there's been no lovelost in their time apart.
And then we see Zara and Myles go outlooking for an idol
together. Yeah.
Flipping back over to the originalor the new brains.
(09:27):
Yeah.
My sons are talking
about how they're each other's number one,so they're going to stick together.
Well, they're looking for an idolMax finds. Yes.
Oh, my gosh.
It was kind of strange. Did you see that?
He was at one tree,and then all of a sudden,
he just casually walks overto the other tree and finds it.
Yeah, it's like 10 or 15ft away.
And then he just walks over, reaches up,and there it is.
It just seemed like an odd progressionof where to go next.
(09:51):
You must have seen somethingabout that tree
that made them think, oh, that's somethingthat someone would hide something in.
Or someone told them,
you guys say that
every time someone finds an idol,and I don't think they're doing that.
Maybe we're just being cynical tonight.
Could be.
I don't think we going to say tonight.
Tonight?
I feel tonightwe're at maybe in a strange place.
(10:12):
Who knows?
I thinkMax found the idol on his own merit.
I hope so.
Well,that can really change his game, right?
Because, absolutely, he didn't haveas many friends as he thought.
And now he has an idol,which is wonderful.
Good for Max. Right?
Good for Max. Right?
And now it's already timefor the immunity challenge as fast.
So it's a pretty intense one.
(10:32):
You have to kind of unscramblethe ropes, you hacky,
you move your chest all over the chestlike crazy.
you move your chest all over the chestlike crazy.
Moving that chest. Yeah.
And then they have to get the tiles up.
So right awaywe see the brains pulling ahead.
They get to the
puzzle part first with the tiles,
and then it comesall the way around to the brawn
coming up to the puzzle part,and no one can get it.
(10:55):
And everyone swapping in and outuntil Rich
gets going for the brawnand he just gets it.
Not right away.
It takes a couple tries,but once he gets it,
he gets to right away,which is unbelievable.
I mean, it looks like a very difficultthing to do with that big long pole.
It's very impressivewhat Richard was able to do.
And I'm sitting at home thinking, okay,well that's in the bag
(11:17):
number three right here.
Head right, right around the corner.Glad to get it.
And then out of nowhere,Ben and PD are, Or.
Sorry, Ben and Jessiecome out of nowhere and get all three.
Right.
So the brains win immunity.
Unexpectedly,they were ahead at the beginning,
then they fell behind,and now they're back.
So this was a good challenge.
(11:38):
It was something a little bit differentthan what we've seen before.
Getting the tiles up with the giant polelooked incredibly difficult,
and it challenged the playersto use different skills
than we've seen, tested in other forms.
I agree with you, Rachel.
I thought it was very fun to see somethingso different.
I mean, we've seen the heavy chest before,
but that at the end was very interesting.
(12:01):
Right? So they are mixing it up, right?
So they are mixing up different challengesthis time,
like I talked about before,when they had to start the fire,
when half the team or two of the teammembers
had to start the fire in order toto win the event at the end.
So this is a different thing to pushingthat tile off with just one stick.
So you have to balance it.
It's a long stick.Two people have to work together.
So that's good.
(12:22):
Yeah.
So the people behind the scenes who arecoming up with these ideas, the producers,
thank you.
And also it's interesting for the players
I'm sure, because they're not theoh I didn't think about that.
Right.
Yeah.
This is something different.
Oh I didn't plan for this exactly.
Probably not a skillanyone's practiced at home.
Right, right.
But there was no puzzle involved, correct?
(12:44):
Yeah. In the in the whole. The whole day.
The whole episode.
Well, I guess the memories.
It feels like a puzzle. I guess. So, yeah.
Not your traditional jigsaw puzzle, right?
You're right.
That was a that was definitely a memory.
Correct.
Yeah.
Well, thank you for keeping uson our toes, Australian survivor Studios.
So we head back to the brawn tribe,brawn camp
(13:07):
and see who's going to be the first onegoing home out of this new tribe.
So it seems pretty clear that there'sthe four original brawn before
original brains, and Richard's kind ofin the middle, and it's all up to him.
Yeah, well, it sounds
like they want Noonan out at first, right?
Yeah, that's who Karen pitched.
And I'm wondering why I never really gota great answer throughout the episode.
(13:31):
Why she was being targeted overanyone else.
Yeah, I'm not sure.
Has they had a run in it?
Did they know each other?
Did they know each other?
I guess the only thing I can think of is
between Noonan, Ursula, Polly and Kristen.
I guess Polly is pretty athletic.
Ursula is very athletic.
I would say Kristen and Noonan are fairlyequal in my book in terms of athleticism.
(13:54):
I mean, Kristenreally pulled ahead with the fire
and that challengeyou were just talking about.
And then Noonanreally helps out with puzzles.
So I think they both kind ofbring something to the tribe.
So I would have liked
to have a little bit more historyas to why Noonan was the target.
Right.
Noonanseems like a fun person to hang out with.
Yeah, I like seeing her on the screen.
I'm not ready for her to go home. Yeah.
All right, same here.
(14:15):
All right, same here.
Then.
So then you see the bronze talking, and,
Ursula is not saying anything,so Noonan says,
listen, we have to vote together.
Just stick together.
And Ursula is not into this.
Yeah.
So Ursula has already announcedto everyone that she's on the bottom.
She's been on the bottom.
She's one of the only people been votedfor on this tribe.
(14:37):
And then she kind of gets pretty upset.
She says, you know, you're talking to melike I'm a dog and I'm watching it.
And I'm thinking,yeah, she's kind of right.
They're not being very respectful.
I think they're trying to include Ursula,but she's
so withdrawnthat it's making the other bond mad,
and everyone's getting emotionaland it's not really working out.
(15:01):
And I'm looking at it and I'm thinking,if I were Ursula, I think I'd flip.
What would you guys write?
I was thinking, thinking the same thing
because she's going around saying,you know what was me?
Everybody.I'm the only one with a vote or whatever.
But I think she should havejust kept that to herself
and then just approached the other sideand said, hey, you know, I'll work
with you. I'mnot that big of a fan of these other guys.
(15:21):
They haven't been treating me very well.
Oh yeah? Yeah, yeah, I got me. Yeah.
Right.
I know I'm sure I wouldn't work with themeither, because they were not very neat.
But I wonder, were they that mean?
I don't know.
The problem is,we don't really know the whole story.
Is Ursula exaggerating it?
(15:41):
Yeah, but probably
if she really feels that way,then we must accept her how she feels.
So if they should not, they should be moredelicate when they're talking to her.
Well, I'm looking at the water well sceneand they were talking down to her,
you know, union saying,you know, she's not doing.
And yeah, Ursula is right.
They're not speaking to herlike she's theirs just in that.
(16:02):
You're right, you're right. Yeah.
I feel like people have flipped over a lotless in the history of survivor.
So I think that she would be,justified in that to flip.
Also, just playing from the bottomthe whole game, she's
always been getting votesthat every tribal council
people have been fairly vocal,that they're not a huge fan of hers.
So I'm thinking, why would she wantto keep playing with these people?
(16:25):
Just switch it up.
Play with someone?No, right. You're right.
But Polly is like,all right, let's just work together.
We'll work this out tomorrow. List.
For this vote, we have to stick together.
And I see what he's saying.
You know,let's let's just do it right now.
But things never work out that easy,and it's never the way
it isat the beginning of these negotiations,
(16:47):
this part of the show,it never sticks around the same way.
Yeah.
And then you see oh go ahead, Rachel,now it's time for Polly to pull Rick.
Yeah. And Polly pitches low.
Yeah.
Polly is looking for Ridge to flipand they kind of decide.
Logan, Kristen wants to vote out Logan.
It sounds like,And Rich is on board with that.
It sounds like,And Rich is on board with that.
(17:09):
He thinks that,
He thinks that,
you know, he's been after Logan before.
He wants revenge on her.
And then Polly is kind of selling itto him, saying, you know, this solidifies
your spot at the merge.This is it for you.
And I'm kind of looking at himlike, well, Rich
kind of has a spot at the mergewith the brain, so I don't know.
I feel like he could really go either way.
(17:29):
And I don't know that eitherone would be better for his game overall.
Yeah, I think it's it's difficult to judgebecause Rich seemed so convincing.
Yep. I'll vote for Logan. Right?
I mean, it didn't seem likehe was wavering at all.
And then if you're out there playing,you know, like, oh, he just told me
he was going to vote for, you know,and then it things just get so mixed up
(17:49):
and people just aren't necessarilytelling you the truth all the time.
You don't know.
It looks it looks challenging. Yeah.
Well then all of a sudden Richards with AJand he tells them that Polly asked him.
Polly asks him to vote for Loganand AJ says he agrees.
Right.
But then AJ sayshe wants to play both sides
(18:09):
so he's not going to vote for Logan,and Rich does not like this at all.
Rich Sutton Salmon says, if you don't dowhat I say, you're the next one out.
What did you think about that?
I see what Rich is saying,and I understand
you're telling me who to vote for, butyou're not going to vote for that person
so that you look better.
And I look like the bad guy.
(18:30):
No, thanks. Because then whatif it doesn't come through?
Then I really look like the bad guy,even though you were behind me.
So I understand what he's saying.
You vote that way too,or I'm not voting that way.
I don't know, I think it's goodto have a double agent on your side.
I think that Rich and AJ could have gonepretty far
being this, like, unsuspecting duo.
One on each side.
(18:51):
But I think that we saw
Rich's game and right in front of themwhen he threatened AJ like that.
I think that the end of the episodewould have looked incredibly different
if Rich had just said, okay.
But you know, Rich had even said itat the beginning of their conversation.
He was like, you know,
I think it's irrational to go after Logan,but I'll do it if you want.
(19:12):
So I think that's just how Rich plays.
He's just there for fun,and that's why we enjoy watching him.
So he kind of knows thathe may not be making
the absolute smartest moves,but he is there for a show.
I don't know though.
I feel like he, he could have benefited
from having AJ on the other sidebecause let's say it works out.
Logan goes home and Richand AJ both voted for Logan.
(19:35):
Well, now they get back to campand they're not going to know
who the next vote is.What if they get an idol?
What if something changes? You never know.
I think it's
always good to have that informationkind of opening up on the opposite side.
I see what you're saying. Yep.
You're opening my eyes to it.
I understand,but it's still just a scary situation
that someone's telling you kind of whichway to vote, and they're not doing it.
(19:57):
Yeah, okay.
Well, she's not even telling himwhich way to vote,
which is going to vote Logan, regardlessthat he was.
Yes, I just said AJ says hi.
Yes, I just said AJ says hi.
I don't want anyone to knowwhat I'm doing. I'm not voting.
I want I want to be part of this,but I'm not going to vote.
I'm not sticking my neck out.
I think I would feel the same wayin this situation. Yes.
That's great.
That's great.
Well, then we see
(20:17):
Ursula talking to Logan,and it looks like Kristen's there,
and they're kind of talking about, youknow, how Newnan reacted at a challenge.
And Ursula says, I want Noonan out.
I thought this was going to bea bigger conversation.
I thought, Logan, jump on to this,tell her the plan for tonight.
But she doesn't. Right.
And I was just listening, right. She.
(20:39):
Yeah. She didn't say much.
And Ursula was upset
because Noonan rolled her eyeswhen they got back from the challenge.
When talking about Ursula. Yeah.
So it sounds like Ursula
and Noonan are really just clashingand anything is going to set them off.
Yeah, but the next thing is, see, Ursula,tell Noonan
she has and decideif she will vote for Noonan or Logan.
(21:00):
I was just crazy.
Yeah.
This is a very interesting play on Ursula.
Like we were saying earlier,it seems like kind of
keep it in the darkif you're going to flip,
but she's been very openthat she may or may not flip.
I don't know how this is going to gofor the rest of their relationship.
I think Ursula is just proving to us over
and over againthat she does not trust Noonan.
She does not want to work with Noonan.She doesn't like Noonan.
(21:22):
So I think just
So I think just
you have to spell it out,but they have to go their separate ways.
Ursula has to flip.
Ursula has to flip.
How crazy would it have beenif Rich flipped from brains to brawn?
And then Ursula flips from Brand Friend?
Yeah, and then it all ends upkind of becoming AJ if he flips.
Right.So it was there's a lot going on there.
I was excited to seewhat could have been that Flynn.
(21:42):
Right.
And then so oh go ahead.
Yeah. Then the craziest thing happens.
AJ comes up to Karenand he says let's get out rich.
So I think this is becauseRich had just kind of threatened him
I believe so, but he also saidbecause he saw that the brawn team
was not united and he didn't want thingsto backfire in his face.
(22:05):
So I think there is all kinds of rich.
And he saw how they were not united,
maybe thought, oh, I don't knowif this vote's really going to happen.
Yeah.
AJ has a pretty good sense of the game,I think.
And he's realizingthat if he were to flip with the brawn
and try to ridethe brawn coattails to merge,
it may not get him there because the brawnor so unsteady to begin with. Yes.
Even though the original brains
(22:27):
don't really like each otherthat much there at least.
Well, Karenand Rich don't really like each other, but
if you take Rich out of the picture,they're a little bit more cohesive. Yes.
Yeah.
They're also not so vocalabout how they don't like each other, not
confronting each other.
Yeah.
They play a very different gamethan each other. Yes.
So I thought this was a great move by AJ.
(22:48):
Kind of saying, you know, if you'regoing to get me, I'll get your first.
And so he's kind of running around,you know,
everyone's getting ready for tribal richeswalking up.
And he's like,you know, we're going to vote rich now.
And I'm thinking, I don't know.
I don't know if he sold it enough.
I'm looking at Kristen and Ursulaby the fire.
They're just like,what do you think of that?
They I don't I'm thinkingas we're going into tribal,
(23:09):
I don't know if he sold it well enough.
Right.
And then we go to tribal,
and it seems likeRich is answering every other question.
It seemed like to me
she does
a lot of rich, a lot of questions to Rich.
Well, he's a big part of this.
Yes, he was a big part of last episode,
even though he wasn't at tribal council,and he's a big part of this one.
Right? He's made his mark on the game.
(23:30):
He has.
He has.
There was a lot of discussionabout original tribal lines.
And are you going to stick with it?And I thought Logan made a good point.
She was saying that,
everyone wants to playlike we're at the merge,
and if we play it toosoon, we're not going to make it there.
Kind of.
Kind of.
Yeah.
So that was an interesting perspective,right?
I guess she's trying to say we all need towork together because now we're a tribe.
(23:52):
Yeah. She also had a great pitch.
I thought by saying, you know,I don't know how many kids Ursula has.
I haven't asked Paula yetabout why I was a paramedic
and really trying to convince themto get her to stay in this position.
Right? Yeah.
Yeah, I was impressed by that. Right.
I think she she pitched a good cellfor why she should stay,
(24:12):
even though it's not like a real reason.
She's just trying to get at everyone'semotions.
Right? That she's like,she's like a human.
She has feelings for people or whatever.
Right?
She's she's thinking about peoplenot as players, but as people.
Yeah.
So going into it, it'shard to tell what's going to happen.
There's a lot of discussion ofare you going to stay loyal?
(24:33):
Are you going to flip?
Who are you going to flip
with what this will bring even meanwhen there's three names out on the table?
Yeah.
And suddenly it is time to vote.
In the voting booth, we see Rich say,some of them pretty dramatic.
You said that,you write some Logan's name,
and then he says, and it's Laura next.
Yeah, yeah.
(24:54):
He's really mad at the Vibe Tribeor the Vibe Alliance.
Yeah, but did Laura or Rich?
Yeah, but then Laura,she'd still want to work with Rich.
Yeah.
I thought that she was still planningto work with Rich.
Yeah,because she kept trying to save them.
Well, I guess he doesn't feelthat she's not even on his truck.
And he knows thathe's ready to vote somebody up
(25:14):
on the other tribe.
on the other tribe.
So he is pretty sure
that Logan is getting some votes tonight.
And then the votes are read.
We see one vote for Noonan, onevote for Logan, and the rest are for Rich.
So Rich ends up being the next personvoted out of the game.
Yeah, Rich.
So I vote.
When we saw that at the end,we saw how everyone voted.
(25:36):
Yes. Yeah, he sure did.
I thought he left with a smile.
He seemed pretty, you know,he wasn't angry.
He did say, get those brains.
But I
thought he, you know, did a nice jobwalking out.
There was no complaints, right?
He seemed happy.
He seemed happy.
You could tell that he took thisas a game.
He didn't take anything toopersonally. Correct.
(25:56):
And he seemed to be having a lot of funin the game.
He made for great TV,which as a film producer,
that's probably his goal in daily life.
And he achieved it here on survivor.
So great job Rich.
He was fun to watch.
He was fun to watch.
I guess not so great to work with,
but it was interesting to watch him.
Rachel, you made a great point.
I forgot that because of his workhe knows what is right.
(26:19):
Like you just said, good TV.
So he what he was doingthe filmmaker right that was wonderful.
I thought it was interestingthat Ursula voted for Noonan,
and she was the only onewho didn't vote for Rich Joe.
Was she was she? Is she that out of touch?
Did they not tell her,
or did she think that anyone elsewas going to vote for Noonan?
Or was it just,
(26:40):
an exclamation point like, I'mcoming for you and I still don't like you?
I don't
know,interpreted it as a declaration of war.
We're kind of against Noonan saying,I'm flipping
and I'm voting for my own tribe.
I don't know that it was the right move
because she knew that the vote was rich.
She didn't really talk to anyoneabout voting
(27:01):
for Noonanunless we missed it, on the show.
So I don't think that it was the besttime to do that.
I think she should have voted for.
Gone back and then gotten with
Karen or Logan and said, you know,I want to flip.
Who are we taking out next?
Yeah, because Noonan could end upsince she voted with the other people.
(27:22):
She might say, you know,we just got to get Ursula out, right?
And she might be able to do it.
So, yeah, Ursula should have waited.
I, I agree with you,but Ursula is, a contender.
I mean, when she's in the
in the challenges,I mean, she's she's really in shape and.
Wow, she's so cool in that big chestand everything.
(27:42):
Yeah, right.
She's very strong.
She's a power lifter around, right?
I think we're kind of
getting to that point in the game whereeveryone brings something to the table,
and every person that's lostis going to have an impact
on the entire tribeand the rest of the game.
I've also noticed that I feel likeI like all the players quite a bit,
and I feel like every timethey bring up a name like, hi,
(28:05):
oh yeah, right, right.
It seems like a so it's a, it'san exciting part of the season to be yet.
And then they both have Flint nowso they have fire.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
Finally
Finally
we've been waiting.
we've been waiting.
Yeah.
So I'm glad everyone knows fire.
All right.
So another episode coming up soon.
Yes. Will be back tomorrow.
(28:25):
In the meantime, don't forget to follow uson Instagram at at survivor, TikTok
at survivor, and send us an emailat eight, Australian Survivor at gmail.com
and let us know whyyou think Ursula voted for Noonan.
Was it on purpose?
Was it a confusion? Was it a statement?
Let us knowand we will talk to you tomorrow.
(28:46):
Thanks. Bye bye.
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