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October 17, 2025 126 mins
 

This week on Another Pass, Sam and Case are joined by Randy Allain and Kris Ingersoll to tackle the flatscan of a film that was X-Men: Dark Phoenix! Together, they explore where this cosmic finale lost its spark, what could've made it soar, and why the Dark Phoenix saga might be one of Hollywood's hardest stories to get right.

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Another Pass Full Episode Originally aired: October 17, 2025 
 
Music by Vin Macri and Matt Brogan
 
Podcast Edited by Sophia Ricciardi
 
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Outline
Introduction and Podcast Setup (00:00 - 11:12)
  • Hosts Case Aiken and Sam Alicea introduce the episode focusing on X-Men Dark Phoenix.
  • Guests Randy Elaine and Chris Ingersoll join the discussion; both co-host Media Lit podcast.
Initial Impressions and Beginning of Film Discussion (11:12 - 20:59)
  • Analysis of the opening space mission scene and its visual/aesthetic choices.
  • General approval of the X-Men team roster in Dark Phoenix.
Strengths of Characters and Performances (20:59 - 30:59)
  • Appreciation for Sophie Turner's performance with Jean Grey.
  • Discussion of Magneto's portrayal by Michael Fassbender.
‍ Xavier's Character Arc and Franchise Context (30:59 - 41:10)
  • Examination of Xavier's complexities as an idealistic and flawed leader.
  • Reflection on his manipulation and ego, with a key scene involving him being made to walk up stairs.
️ Critiques: Villains and Plot Issues (41:11 - 50:27)
  • Strong criticism of the d'Bari alien race as villains.
  • Weakness of action sequences involving these aliens.
Character Development and Timeline Problems (50:27 - 01:00:35)
  • Concern over the lack of emotional investment in characters' relationships.
  • Confusing timeline spanning decades but not reflected in characters' aging or interactions.
Death of Mystique and Emotional Impact (01:00:35 - 01:11:32)
  • Mixed feelings about Mystique's death scene.
  • Discussion about studio and star politics influencing character presence.
️ Critique of Dialogue and Character Interactions (01:11:32 - 01:22:42)
  • Criticism of a line spoken by Raven about 'Ex Women' as inauthentic pandering.
  • Suggestions for how to better write character tension and relationship dynamics.
Pitches for Reworking the Film: Sam's Pitch (01:22:43 - 01:33:08)
  • Sam proposes minor tweaks to the film's first act.
  • Suggestions to extend screen time for Dazzler and build out Jean's emotional journey.
Pitches for Reworking the Film: Randy's Pitch (01:33:08 - 01:43:57)
  • Randy removes the alien villains and replaces them with Mr. Sinister (Kevin Bacon).
  • Incorporates Hellfire Club and Magneto's acolytes to enrich villain roster.
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