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January 13, 2025 17 mins
You don’t have to wait for a program that integrates seamlessly with Microsoft 365, Microsoft Dynamic and offers top-tier AI and security from a single console—it’s here.

Shelby Skrhak speaks with Pam Johnson, director, America’s Business Applications Marketing at Microsoft, about:
  • Defining Microsoft's Business Central offering
  • Common pain points for SMBs (and how Business Central helps)
  • Key benefits for partners using Business Central 

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Let's get into it.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Welcome to B to B Tech Talk with Ingram Micro.
I'm your host, Shelby Skirhawk, and today our guest is
Pam Johnson, Director of Partner Marketing for Business Applications for Microsoft.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Pam, welcome, Thank you so much, Shelby, I'm excited to
be here. Yeah, well, thank you and welcome back.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
So today we're talking about unleashing the power of Microsoft
Dynamics through sixty five Business Central, and specifically we're talking
about some of the marketing, marketing aspects and.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Trends for SMBs.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
So soft though, to acquaint ourselves, what is best Business Central?

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Yeah, great question. It is the first comprehensive business management
solution that uses Microsoft Copilot to boost productivity and improve
decision making, making it the next generation AI. And which
Dynamics Business Central It's really a single, easy to use
solution that works seamlessly for the Microsoft three sixty five

(01:27):
that connects finance, sales, service, and operation.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
And so this is an ERP that integrates AI specifically
Microsoft Copilot.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
Right, there's Copilot within Business Central, and Business Central is
an ERP solution.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
You are one hundred percent correct, got it?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Then, looking at the SMB market, what are some of
the trends that you're seeing and the things that we're
that they're facing.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Yeah, we actually worked with IDC and connected a survey
with SMB customers and the top three that I play
out that I thought were very relevant for customers that
are thinking about Business Central are the first one. SMBs
are really continually balancing complex and challenging priorities. They're thinking
about growth, how they drive efficiency, productivity, and of course

(02:16):
security is top of mind for SMB leaders today.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
The next one is SMBs are really continuing to invest
in technology. They need to become more digitally resistant and
capitalize on the change marketing conditions. And one impressive stat
is seventy percent of SMBs will have significantly increase their
IT spend by twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
And significantly is significant.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
Then because we're not talking about just maybe keeping up
with or just some small updates. They're significantly increasing their
spend correct.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
So it's a great opportunity for partners. Yeah, and then
the third one is something I think we can all
relate too about working from home and highbred work models
are here to stay, which is driving the increased focus
on security as SMBs are going to focus on keeping
their company and their customers data secure and cyber attacks

(03:14):
are targeting SMBs are becoming more prevalent, and they're driving
companies to take more proactive measures to mitigate the risks.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
That are out there.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, it really is.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
It's everywhere, it is, and I think sometimes customers feel
like I'm okay staying what I'm on because it's not
going to happen to me. And I talked to a
partner just yesterday that a customer came to them because
they were actually attacked. And now the partner is going
to work with a customer to get the data back,
but it's going to definitely be a costly investment for

(03:47):
that customer.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, definitely. Well, so what are then the pain points?

Speaker 3 (03:52):
I mean, security is something that are keeping them them
up at night, but what are those pain points specifically
that SMB customers are experiencing today.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Yeah, especially if you think about it from an ARP perspective.
I think like one of the things we're seeing a
lot of is multiple software programs, paper based systems. What
it's doing is creating data silos that make decision making harder,
and it's hindering business growth and it's also reducing the ROI.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
The second one is manual workarounds that are happening that
result in inefficient processes, data airs, They're driving up costs,
and they're also reducing the business's profitability.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yes, the manual ones the solution that well, because we
didn't have this or because that legacy program didn't talk
to that legacy program. We're doing xyz all of these steps,
when if they were all connected and digitally transformed, if
you will, that would make that process so much easier, right.

Speaker 5 (04:52):
Yes, for sure.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
And then the less errors when you do things manually
versus if you can automate it is critical, yes, yes.
And then to your point earlier, the disconnected systems, it
makes it really hard to collaborate and share information, and
it's also impacting employee's ability to solve those critical business
problems and really effectively serve their customers.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, well, let me ask you, so, I mean, yes,
the SMB customer is facing these things, but is that
also a challenge for the partners themselves, the ones that
are trying to help these SMBs if they are not
fully digitally up to date.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yeah, it's a great question, and I would definitely say
some partners are experiencing this because some partners haven't made
that transition over into a seamless ERP solution, and so
I think it's important that partners are able to run
an efficient ERP solution as well as their productivity apps.
It definitely makes it easier to have the conversation with
the customer.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Well, so getting into the mindset of the partner and
when they are talking to various customers. I wonder if
you can and give us some of those common customer
scenarios where Business Central would help those SMBs.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Yeah, it's a great question, and this is a question
we typically get a lot from partners, like how do
I know which customers I need to be targeting for this?
And we've really found three common scenarios where our solution
really fits. The first one is the businesses really outgrowing
systems such as QuickBooks zero and there's some others out there.
And some of the triggers that are making that happen

(06:32):
is scalability. They're unable to support the required number of
users or transaction volume is one of them. Reporting requirements
is critical because they might need more dimensions than the
current system allows. What do you mean by that with
the flexibility for reporting to make sure that you can
have different types of reports?

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Okay, okay?

Speaker 4 (06:53):
And then the last one is the inefficient workflows, which
we talked a little bit about where you're switching between
apps see time and causing data entry airs.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
So that's the first one.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
The second one is really where the business has an
old solution that needs updating and this could be more
legacy systems potentially on prem and some things to keep
in mind there that are triggers is they're out of
warranty or support.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
So then again it's a huge risk for the end customer.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
Or maybe that's broken, not reliable and not secure where
the existing solution has fundamental problems that's actually holding the
company back. And then the third is really it's missing
critical capabilities where the business has changed and grown and
they need additional capabilities and what their existing system has.
So that's really thinking about from an old legacy system perspective.

(07:49):
And then the third is the business has a very
specific need and the capability becomes a must, and that's
where think about compliance auditory requirements. There's certain compliance standards
that customers need to make sure they're maintaining. Then you
also have specific feature and capabilities. This could get into

(08:10):
where you need warehouse support, tracking inventory or rebates. And
then the last one is really the facts fast and
flexible deployments and more of a hub and spoke and
this is where companies really want to decentralize an operating model,
but they might want to standardize across various divisions and
they need that solution that can quickly and easily deploy

(08:34):
across the different business units.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
What would you an example of that.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
With the fast and flexible deployments, think about organizations that
might have manufacturing or they might have retail, because you're
going to have your general edge of your account clubile
accounts pable, but then you're also going to have the
manufacturing and inventory.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
That you're going to want to make sure is up
to date.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
So that's when you think about different departments and different units,
that would be a specific scenario.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Got it, got it?

Speaker 5 (08:59):
Got it?

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Okay, Well, so for the partner that's listening to their customer,
you mentioned three really common customer scenarios. The business that's
outgrowing their systems, the business that just has old legacy
software that is, you know, not supported anymore and desperately
needs needs help. Or the business has a very specific

(09:24):
requirement like correct with like HIPPA and you know, government
compliance that sort of thing. Well, so in talking about
those those customer scenarios, though, again going back to the
partner that's sitting at the table having this discussion, they're
going to be talking to traditionally the IT department, but
there's really so many roles with an organization. And I

(09:47):
guess because we're talking about a large scale ERP system
that's not just a it's large scale.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
So I guess, how did they.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Expand their thinking and think, Okay, well, who else do
I need to be talking about. You're talking to not
just the you know, the the IT department or the CTO,
but what are some of their considerations that they should
be I guess having when they're sitting at that table.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Yeah, and that's one thing I think that's super important
when you're thinking about an EERP solution is you need
to make sure that you expand the rooms in the
house or expand across organized in the organization, the individuals
you're talking to, So having an engagement with the owner
the CEO is super critical. And the other one is

(10:32):
really on the operational side. It's your finance controller CFO
because they're the ones that are going to make the
decision to write the check. In addition, you can be
talking to the IT manager, but it's super important that
you're getting a seat at the table with the owner,
CEO and or the financial individual.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
So the executive, the owner, the CEO. Yep, I wonder
if you can break that down a little bit. So, okay,
so when you're talking to the CEO, what are you saying,
what are some of the things that they need fixed
and that you might be able to offer that solution.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
Yeah, so that's a great question.

Speaker 4 (11:09):
I think it's important for partners to think about the
personas that they're talking to. What are some of the
core challenges that that individual season the organization, and then
what are some of the key impacts and so when
you put your CEO hat on, if you're in a
customer organization, A couple of the ones that come talk
to mind to me is you've got the remote work empowerment,

(11:33):
you've got potentially increasing fraud risk, and you've got increasing
regulatory and compliance reporting, and then there's penalties if you
don't do that. And so some of the key metrics
that's going to be top of mind for that CEO
is going to be profitability.

Speaker 5 (11:50):
So what are the operating margin? What are my IT costs?
And what about revenue growth?

Speaker 3 (11:57):
So they're looking at, yeah, the revenue growth opportunities there
and balancing that with all of the challenges that they're
already facing.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
Correct.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
I was just going to say, like if we go
think about the finance and the controller, like a couple
core business challenges that come top of mind for them
on why they would be considering a new ERP solution
is going to be limited visibility into real time data
for payment predictions or forecasting or cash flow management, which
is super critical especially within SMB organizations. And you've got

(12:32):
the manual and inefficient financial processes that are going to
increase time and costs. And then I think the other
one that we hit on earlier too is the ability
to enable that remote digital selling and support to make
sure no matter where individuals are on the organization, they're
still driving productivity for the bottom dollar.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Well, so let me ask the partner is probably used
to talking to the IT manager or the CTO. They
may depending on theirization, they may be talking to the CEO.
But I don't know, it could be wrong. It seems
like you wouldn't normally be talking to the finance guy
the controller. How important is that element? I mean, is

(13:13):
that something that the partner would would normally be facing.
Are they really just talking to the CEO or the
IT guy?

Speaker 4 (13:20):
No, it's super important from an ARP that you actually
have the finance or the controller in there to have
that discussion because they're going to be the one that's
going to write you the check. And some of the
key impact metrics top of mind for them is what's
my operating expense ratio or what's the percent of revenue
coming from new versus existing customers? How many average days

(13:42):
does it take to close the books? Like, it's going
to revolve around the financial metrics as well as the productivity.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Oh okay, and that's something that I hadn't that. I
don't think a lot of us would really have thought
about that. Yeah, it's the finance guy that's cutting the check,
so he really needs to be assured that this is
this is something that the organization absolutely needs. It's I
would like to have. It's really becoming a must have correct.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
And then on the IT side of the house, like
a couple of things, which is probably no shock if
there's it people listening to this is again maintaining security,
which we've talked about, and then around the governance trust
and the security of the AI language and the decision
models that's super important in it. They're going to want
to know about budget and they're going to be thinking

(14:31):
about attacks, breaches, fraud attempts. And the one thing that
we get a lot of questions on is I don't
know if I feel secure putting my earp on the cloud.

Speaker 5 (14:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yeah, And what we typically say to that is you're
going to run on enterprise grade security in the Azure environment,
and so it's actually safer to put it in the
cloud than it is to have it sitting in your
server in your office.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Well, so you've made a lot of great points there,
and I guess, as we start to wrap up our episode,
I'd love to, I guess, summarize or give our listeners
kind of some takeaways from this episode. So, Pam, what
do you want partners listening to this really to understand
most about Business Central?

Speaker 4 (15:17):
So if you think about Business Central, think about it
as that one comprehensive solution that integrates into M three
sixty five and runs on the Azure platform for that
enterprise grade security. But I also would challenge you to
think about when you're meeting with your existing customers to

(15:38):
really think about the SMB trends that we talked about,
the customer pain points, the scenarios to target it. More importantly,
the importance of reaching the right individuals in the organization,
because if you're listening for that and you craft a
compelling pitch to your client about highlighting Microsoft Dynamics three

(15:58):
sixty five or the copilot function in there along with
the integration into M three sixty five, there's no other
competitor out there today that can offer this comprehensive solution.
And this is where really Microsoft can fight and win,
and this is where we need us partners to really
go out and help us do that and I know
you might be thinking, well, it's ERP, that's not really

(16:20):
my area of focus. I don't know if I can
do that, And I challenge each one of you. I
know that you can do it based on kind of
the talk that we had today, and if you're wondering
how to take the next step, Ingram is ready to
help you. So that's where I would reach out to
Dynamics three sixty five at ingrammicro dot com and they're
more than willing to engage with you to have the discussion.

(16:40):
You don't have to be the expert because they can
also do the deployment for your end customer.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Excellent. Well yeah, so great.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
So we've got that contact information so if if partners
have questions about anything that we talked about today, they
can reach out. So well, Pam, I really appreciate the
time and the insight today. Thank you so much for
joining me.

Speaker 5 (17:01):
It was my pleasure. Thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
I'm excited about seeing more partners with the opportunity around
business Central.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
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