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September 17, 2025
What if payment chains are the “AWS moment for money”? Simon Taylor — fintech veteran, ex-Barclays crypto lead, and author of FinTech Brainfood — joins Bankless to map the convergence of fintech and crypto. From stablecoins serving as the Trojan horse for tokenisation to Tempo’s push for a payments chain, Simon explains why finance is on the brink of its biggest infrastructure shift since Visa. We cover the rise of payments L1s, the regulatory roulette of stablecoins, and whether neutrality and permissionlessness can survive in corporate-led networks. Plus, Simon breaks down the differences between stablecoins, tokenized deposits, and CBDCs — and explains why the future of finance is already being rebuilt on-chain. --- 📣SPOTIFY PREMIUM RSS FEED | USE CODE: SPOTIFY24 https://bankless.cc/spotify-premium --- BANKLESS SPONSOR TOOLS: 🪙FRAX | SELF SUFFICIENT DeFi https://bankless.cc/Frax 🦄UNISWAP | SWAP ON UNICHAIN https://bankless.cc/unichain 🛞MANTLE | MODULAR LAYER 2 NETWORK https://bankless.cc/Mantle 🎩DEGEN | JOIN THE COMMUNITY https://bankless.cc/degen 🌳KGEN | REQUEST A DEMO https://bankless.cc/KGEN-podcast 🏄 SURF | UPGRADE YOUR CRYPTO RESEARCH https://bankless.cc/surf --- TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 4:28 FinTech Meets Crypto 9:47 The AWS Moment for Money 14:34 Why Payments Are Broken 21:25 Stablecoins in Action 25:59 The Rise of Payments Chains 38:11 Neutrality, Permissionlessness & The Libra Lesson 52:48 Stablecoins, Tokenized Deposits & CBDCs 59:08 The Stablecoin Boom Ahead 1:12:24 Is FinTech Becoming Crypto? 1:15:22 Tokenization Beyond Payments 1:36:25 Agents & AI Commerce 1:40:33 Closing Thoughts --- RESOURCES Simon Taylor https://x.com/sytaylor/ FinTech Brainfood https://www.fintechbrainfood.com/ --- Not financial or tax advice. See our investment disclosures here: https://www.bankless.com/disclosures
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