Sacramento Transportation Authority 6/12/25

Sacramento Transportation Authority (STA) meeting from June 12, 2025, detailing administrative procedures and significant discussions. The meeting begins with a roll call and a public statement outlining how the proceedings are broadcast and recorded, emphasizing transparency. Key agenda items include the unanimous approval of consent calendar items and the adoption of the Sacramento Transportation Authority's final budget for Fiscal Year 2025-26, which includes allocations for community engagement and a communication specialist. A substantial portion of the meeting is dedicated to an informational presentation and discussion on Senate Bill 743 (SB743) and Vehicle Miles Traveled (VMT) mitigation strategies, including the complexities of VMT as a proxy for environmental impact and the potential for a regional "mitigation bank" to streamline project approvals and fund high-priority initiatives. The meeting concludes with executive reports and updates from subcommittees, highlighting future discussions on funding and regional priorities.

Episode Transcript

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>> I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO IN MEETING TO ORDER FOR JUNE 12,
MEETING TO ORDER FOR JUNE 12, 2025.
2025. PLEASE CALL IF ROLL.
PLEASE CALL IF ROLL. >> Clerk: DESMOND.

>> Clerk (00:23):
DESMOND. >> HERE.
>> HERE. >> GIC DICKINSON.
>> GIC DICKINSON. >> HERE.
>> HERE. >> GUERRA.
>> GUERRA. >> HERE.
>> HERE. >> HUME.
>> HUME. >> KENNEDY.
>> KENNEDY. >> HERE.
>> HERE. DEBT.
DEBT. >> HERE.
>> HERE. >> MAPLE.
>> MAPLE. >> RATE THEY WILL.
>> RATE THEY WILL. >> HERE.
>> HERE. >> RODRIGUEZ.
>> RODRIGUEZ. >> HERE.
>> HERE. >> SINGH-ALLEN.
>> SINGH-ALLEN. >> HERE.
>> HERE. >> SPEASE.
>> SPEASE. >> HERE.
>> HERE. VANG.
VANG. >> HERE.
>> HERE. SERNA.
SERNA. >> HERE.
>> HERE. >> PLEASE READ OUR STATEMENT.

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>> PLEASE READ OUR STATEMENT. THIS MEETING OF THE SACRAMENTO
THIS MEETING OF THE SACRAMENTO TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY
TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY CABLECAST LIVE ON METRO CABLE
CABLECAST LIVE ON METRO CABLE 14, THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS
14, THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT AFFAIRSCHANNEL ON THE COMCAST AND
CHANNEL ON THE COMCAST AND DIRECT TV U-VERSE CABLE SYSTEMS.
DIRECT TV U-VERSE CABLE SYSTEMS.IT IS ALSO LIVE STREAMED AT
IT IS ALSO LIVE STREAMED AT METRO 14 LIVE.SAC COUNTY. GOV.
METRO 14 LIVE.SAC COUNTY. GOV. REPLAYS SUNDAY AT 2:00 P.M. ON
REPLAYS SUNDAY AT 2:00 P.M. ON METRO 14.
METRO 14. ONCE POSTED RECORDING OF THE

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ONCE POSTED RECORDING OF THE MEETING CAN BE VIEWED AT
MEETING CAN BE VIEWED AT YOUTUBE. COM.
YOUTUBE. COM. THE CHAIRPERSON WILL CALL YOUR
THE CHAIRPERSON WILL CALL YOUR NAME WHEN IT IS YOUR TURN TO
NAME WHEN IT IS YOUR TURN TO COMMENT.
COMMENT. SEND YOUR WRITTEN COMMENDS TO
SEND YOUR WRITTEN COMMENDS TO THE BOARD CLERK.
THE BOARD CLERK. IT WILL BE FILED IN THE RECORD.

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IT WILL BE FILED IN THE RECORD.>> PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE.
>> PLEASE JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE.I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT
AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH ITSTANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD,
STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND
INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. .

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JUSTICE FOR ALL. . >> WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL OUR
>> WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL OUR FIRST ITEM.
FIRST ITEM. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC
COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC REGARDING MATTERS NOT ON THE
REGARDING MATTERS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
AGENDA. >> ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
>> ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. >> I DO NOT HAVE ANY COMMENT
>> I DO NOT HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS.
CARDS. >> NEXT ITEM.
>> NEXT ITEM. >> OUR CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS
>> OUR CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS 2-8.
2-8. >> ANY MEMBER OF THE AUTHORITY
>> ANY MEMBER OF THE AUTHORITY BOARD WISH TO PULL ITEM FOR

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BOARD WISH TO PULL ITEM FOR SEPARATE CONSIDERATION COMMENT
SEPARATE CONSIDERATION COMMENT OR VOTE?
OR VOTE? >> MOVE APPROVAL.
>> MOVE APPROVAL. >> SECOND.
>> SECOND. >> ANYONE SIGNED TO SPEAK ON
>> ANYONE SIGNED TO SPEAK ON CONSENT.
CONSENT. >> WE DO NOT.
>> WE DO NOT. >> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND. VOICE VOTE?
VOICE VOTE? >> WE CAN VOTE ON THE SCREEN.
>> WE CAN VOTE ON THE SCREEN. EVERYONE IS SIGNED IN.

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EVERYONE IS SIGNED IN. PLEASE VOTE.
PLEASE VOTE. >> DIRECTOR MAPLE.
>> DIRECTOR MAPLE. WHERE DID SHE GO?
WHERE DID SHE GO? >> HIT YES FOR HER.
>> HIT YES FOR HER. >> THAT VOTE DOES PASS
>> THAT VOTE DOES PASS UNANIMOUSLY WITH THOSE MEMBERS

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UNANIMOUSLY WITH THOSE MEMBERS PRESENT.
PRESENT. >> NEXT ITEM, PLEASE.
>> NEXT ITEM, PLEASE. >> NEXT IS ITEM 9.
>> NEXT IS ITEM 9. ADOPT SACRAMENTO TRANSPORTATION
ADOPT SACRAMENTO TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY FINAL BUDGET FOR
AUTHORITY FINAL BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025-26.
FISCAL YEAR 2025-26. >> WHO IS STARTING?

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>> WHO IS STARTING? >> HELLO.
>> HELLO. GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR, VICE
GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, BOARD OF DIRECTORS, I AM
CHAIR, BOARD OF DIRECTORS, I AM DUSTIN PURINTON ACCOUNTING
DUSTIN PURINTON ACCOUNTING MANAGER TO PRESENT THE FINAL
MANAGER TO PRESENT THE FINAL 25-26 BUDGET.
25-26 BUDGET. WE WILL SUMMARIZE UPDATES AND
WE WILL SUMMARIZE UPDATES AND DECISIONS IN THE 26 BUDGET

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DECISIONS IN THE 26 BUDGET FOCUSING SINCE YOU SAW THE DRAFT
FOCUSING SINCE YOU SAW THE DRAFTIN MAY LAST MONTH.
IN MAY LAST MONTH. APPROPRIATIONS LIMIT UPDATED
APPROPRIATIONS LIMIT UPDATED ACCORDING TO LAW.
ACCORDING TO LAW. TIMING ON RELEASE IS AFTER THE
TIMING ON RELEASE IS AFTER THE BUDGET DRAFT COMES TO THE BOARD.
BUDGET DRAFT COMES TO THE BOARD.THAT NEW APPROPRIATIONS LIMIT IS
THAT NEW APPROPRIATIONS LIMIT IS$392.4 MILLION.
$392.4 MILLION. THAT WAS ITEM 5 ON CONSENT

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THAT WAS ITEM 5 ON CONSENT CALENDAR TODAY.
CALENDAR TODAY. TOTAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR THIS
TOTAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR THIS BUDGET IS $228.9 MILLION.
BUDGET IS $228.9 MILLION. WELL UNDER APPROPRIATIONS LIMIT.
WELL UNDER APPROPRIATIONS LIMIT.THERE IS ALSO A NEW BUDGET
THERE IS ALSO A NEW BUDGET ALLOCATION IN HERE SINCE THE
ALLOCATION IN HERE SINCE THE DRAFT HAD COME TO THE BOARD.
DRAFT HAD COME TO THE BOARD. $80,000 EDUCATION COMMUNITY
$80,000 EDUCATION COMMUNITY LISTENING SESSION ALLOCATION.
LISTENING SESSION ALLOCATION. PURPOSE TO ASSESS COMMUNICATE

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PURPOSE TO ASSESS COMMUNICATE NEED FOR FUTURE TRANSPORTATION
NEED FOR FUTURE TRANSPORTATION MEASURE AS DETERMINED BY NEW
MEASURE AS DETERMINED BY NEW FUNDING SUBCOMMITTEE SOME OF YOU
FUNDING SUBCOMMITTEE SOME OF YOUARE ON.
ARE ON. WE ALSO HAVE UPDATED
WE ALSO HAVE UPDATED COMMUNICATION SPECIALIST
COMMUNICATION SPECIALIST POSITION.
POSITION. STILL INCLUDED IN BUDGET.
STILL INCLUDED IN BUDGET. COUPLE OF CONTINGENT PIECES.
COUPLE OF CONTINGENT PIECES. BOARD CHAIR NEEDS TO APPROVE.
BOARD CHAIR NEEDS TO APPROVE. SUBJECT TO FURTHER SUBCOMMITTEE

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SUBJECT TO FURTHER SUBCOMMITTEE DISCUSSION BEFORE APPROVED.
DISCUSSION BEFORE APPROVED. TO SUPPORT PUBLIC EDUCATION AND
TO SUPPORT PUBLIC EDUCATION AND OUTREACH FOR MEASURE A AND
OUTREACH FOR MEASURE A AND FUTURE POTENTIAL MEASURES.
FUTURE POTENTIAL MEASURES. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THIS BUDGET
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THIS BUDGET REFLECTS FINANCIAL PRUDENCE AND
REFLECTS FINANCIAL PRUDENCE AND INVESTMENT IN ENGAGEMENT IN
INVESTMENT IN ENGAGEMENT IN EDUCATION.
EDUCATION. I AM OPEN FOR QUESTIONS ON WHAT
I AM OPEN FOR QUESTIONS ON WHAT IS BEFORE YOU.

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IS BEFORE YOU. >> QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
>> QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SEEING NONE.
SEEING NONE. MADAM CLERK ANYONE SIGNED UP TO
MADAM CLERK ANYONE SIGNED UP TO ADDRESS THIS MATTER.
ADDRESS THIS MATTER. >> I DO NOT, CHAIR.
>> I DO NOT, CHAIR. >> OKAY.
>> OKAY. IF THERE IS NO COMMENT FROM
IF THERE IS NO COMMENT FROM BOARD MEMBERS, NO QUESTIONS.
BOARD MEMBERS, NO QUESTIONS. >> MOVED AND SECOND.
>> MOVED AND SECOND. PLEASE VOTE.

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PLEASE VOTE. >> CAN WE TAKE ROLL CALL VOTE.
>> CAN WE TAKE ROLL CALL VOTE. >> SHEER.
>> SHEER. DESMOND.
DESMOND. >> AYE.
>> AYE. >> DICKINSON.
>> DICKINSON. >> AYE.
>> AYE. >> GUERRA.
>> GUERRA. >> AYE.
>> AYE. >> HUME.
>> HUME. >> AYE.
>> AYE. >> KENNEDY.
>> KENNEDY. >> AYE.
>> AYE. >> KENT.
>> KENT. >> AYE.
>> AYE. >> MAPLE.
>> MAPLE. >> AYE.
>> AYE. >> NELSON.
>> NELSON. >> AYE.
>> AYE. >> RATE THEY WILL.
>> RATE THEY WILL. >> AYE.

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>> AYE. >> RODRIGUEZ.
>> RODRIGUEZ. >> PSY.
>> PSY. >> SINGH-ALLEN.
>> SINGH-ALLEN. >> AYE, TALAMANTES.
>> AYE, TALAMANTES. >> AYE, VANG.
>> AYE, VANG. >> AYE.
>> AYE. >> CHAIR SERNA.
>> CHAIR SERNA. >> AYE.
>> AYE. >> RECEIVE INTRODUCTORY
>> RECEIVE INTRODUCTORY PRESENTATION ON COUNTY WIDE
PRESENTATION ON COUNTY WIDE VEHICLE MILED TRAVELED STRATEGY.

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VEHICLE MILED TRAVELED STRATEGY.>> ITEM 10.
>> ITEM 10. IT IS A PRESENTATION BY THE
IT IS A PRESENTATION BY THE COUNTY WIDE VMT STRATEGY.
COUNTY WIDE VMT STRATEGY. IT IS ONE OF THREE WORKSHOPS.
IT IS ONE OF THREE WORKSHOPS. FIRST WE WILL TALK ABOUT WHAT IS
FIRST WE WILL TALK ABOUT WHAT IS43 HAND HOW IT RELATES AND HOW
43 HAND HOW IT RELATES AND HOW IT WILL LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE
IT WILL LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE WHAT IS POTENTIALLY POSSIBLE.

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WHAT IS POTENTIALLY POSSIBLE. AGENDA WISE BACKGROUND AND
AGENDA WISE BACKGROUND AND METHODS.
METHODS. THRESHOLD AND MITIGATION.
THRESHOLD AND MITIGATION. AFTER THIS SLIDE I WILL HAND IT
AFTER THIS SLIDE I WILL HAND IT OFF TO RON FOR REMAINING OF THE
OFF TO RON FOR REMAINING OF THE PRESENTATION.
PRESENTATION. WHY ARE WE HERE?
WHY ARE WE HERE? WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS
WHAT IS THE POINT OF THIS PRESENTATION?
PRESENTATION? WE THINK THAT THE MITIGATION IS
WE THINK THAT THE MITIGATION IS NEW FOR PROJECTS UND UNDER THE .

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NEW FOR PROJECTS UND UNDER THE .IT IS VERY CHALLENGING GETTING
IT IS VERY CHALLENGING GETTING THROUGH CEQA PROCESS.
THROUGH CEQA PROCESS. WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY VARIETY OF
WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY VARIETY OF MITIGATION FOR THE PROJECT.
MITIGATION FOR THE PROJECT. COST-EFFECTIVE MITIGATION IS
COST-EFFECTIVE MITIGATION IS DIFFICULT TO FIND.
DIFFICULT TO FIND. THEN TO IMPLEMENT THE VMT.
THEN TO IMPLEMENT THE VMT. A LOT OF CHALLENGES AS WE MOVE

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A LOT OF CHALLENGES AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECTS.
FORWARD WITH THE PROJECTS. POTENTIALLY OPPORTUNITIES.
POTENTIALLY OPPORTUNITIES. COUNTY WIDE APPROACH COULD
COUNTY WIDE APPROACH COULD STREAMLINE THAT IDENTIFICATION
STREAMLINE THAT IDENTIFICATION MUCH VMT MITIGATION, ALLOW
MUCH VMT MITIGATION, ALLOW PROJECTS THROUGH CEQA QUICKER
PROJECTS THROUGH CEQA QUICKER AND ALLOW US TO REDIRECT THE
AND ALLOW US TO REDIRECT THE MITIGATION FUNDS TO HIGH
MITIGATION FUNDS TO HIGH PRIORITY PROJECTS AS WELL.

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PRIORITY PROJECTS AS WELL. OPPORTUNITY SIDE.
OPPORTUNITY SIDE. FOR THIS PRESENTATION WE WILL
FOR THIS PRESENTATION WE WILL HAVE RON WALK US THROUGH THE 101
HAVE RON WALK US THROUGH THE 101ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC.
ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC. >> THANK YOU, KEVIN.
>> THANK YOU, KEVIN. PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY TO
PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY TO SHARE A FEW THOUGHTS INSIGHTS
SHARE A FEW THOUGHTS INSIGHTS ABOUT SB743 AND IMPLEMENTATION.

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ABOUT SB743 AND IMPLEMENTATION. I LIKE THE WAY KEVIN FRAMED IT.
I LIKE THE WAY KEVIN FRAMED IT. REAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR AGENCIES
REAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR AGENCIES LIKE STA BECAUSE OF THE TYPES OF
LIKE STA BECAUSE OF THE TYPES OFPROJECTS YOU DELIVER INVOLVING
PROJECTS YOU DELIVER INVOLVING ADDING CAPACITY TO ROADWAY
ADDING CAPACITY TO ROADWAY SYSTEM TO INDUCE VMT.
SYSTEM TO INDUCE VMT. ACTRIV TRANSPORTATION AND
ACTRIV TRANSPORTATION AND TRANSIT CAN REDUCE IT AND

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TRANSIT CAN REDUCE IT AND QUALIFY AS MITIGATION MEASURES
QUALIFY AS MITIGATION MEASURES FOR OTHER PROJECTS.
FOR OTHER PROJECTS. MORE BACKGROUND 743 HOW WE GOT
MORE BACKGROUND 743 HOW WE GOT HERE AND WHAT IS NEXT WITH
HERE AND WHAT IS NEXT WITH RESPECT TO THE MITIGATION.
RESPECT TO THE MITIGATION. I WANT TO START WITH SOMETHING
I WANT TO START WITH SOMETHING REALLY SIMPLE.
REALLY SIMPLE. VMT IN BASIC FORM.
VMT IN BASIC FORM. VERY SIMPLE METRIC.
VERY SIMPLE METRIC. TWO VARIABLES.

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TWO VARIABLES. NUMBER OF VEHICLE TRIPS,
NUMBER OF VEHICLE TRIPS, MULTIPLIED BY LENGTH OF THE
MULTIPLIED BY LENGTH OF THE TRIPS.
TRIPS. IF YOU HAD ONE VEHICLE TRIP
IF YOU HAD ONE VEHICLE TRIP GOING ONE MILE ONE VMT.
GOING ONE MILE ONE VMT. SIMPLE.
SIMPLE. FOUR VEHICLE TRIPS GOING
FOUR VEHICLE TRIPS GOING 10 MILES, 40VMT. THAT IS WHERE
10 MILES, 40VMT. THAT IS WHERE SIMPLICITY STOPS.
SIMPLICITY STOPS. END UP IN PRACTICE WITH NINE

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END UP IN PRACTICE WITH NINE METRIC VERSIONS TO USE IN
METRIC VERSIONS TO USE IN TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS WHY WE
TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS WHY WE ARE ANALYZING VMT.
ARE ANALYZING VMT. >> ROLL BACK A FEW SECONDS TO
>> ROLL BACK A FEW SECONDS TO SIMPLICITY PART.
SIMPLICITY PART. THIS IS HUGELY IMPORTANT.
THIS IS HUGELY IMPORTANT. AT LEAST TO ME.
AT LEAST TO ME. AND I THINK ONE OF THE
AND I THINK ONE OF THE FUNDAMENTAL SHORTCOMINGS OF ANY

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FUNDAMENTAL SHORTCOMINGS OF ANY STATUTE THAT USING VMT AS
STATUTE THAT USING VMT AS SURROGATE METRIC FOR GREEN HAS
SURROGATE METRIC FOR GREEN HAS GAS EMISSIONS.
GAS EMISSIONS. WHAT YOU SHOW AND TELL US HERE
WHAT YOU SHOW AND TELL US HERE THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GREEN HAS GAS EMISSION.
GREEN HAS GAS EMISSION. THAT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO HOW
THAT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO HOW FAR THE VEHICLE TRAVELS.
FAR THE VEHICLE TRAVELS. >> YOU ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

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>> YOU ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK. >> IT IS THE RIGHT TRACK.
>> IT IS THE RIGHT TRACK. SHOW ME ON YOUR SLIDE WHERE IT
SHOW ME ON YOUR SLIDE WHERE IT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH
HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. >> WHEN YOU TRAVEL ONE MILE IN A
>> WHEN YOU TRAVEL ONE MILE IN AVEHICLE.
VEHICLE. >> YOU ARE MAKING A CONNECTION
>> YOU ARE MAKING A CONNECTION THAT IS NOT PART OF THE
THAT IS NOT PART OF THE SIMPLICITY YOU JUST GOT DONE
SIMPLICITY YOU JUST GOT DONE EXPLAINS IS WHAT I AM SAYING.

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EXPLAINS IS WHAT I AM SAYING. >> THINK ABOUT THE POWERS THE
>> THINK ABOUT THE POWERS THE VEHICLE THAT IS WHERE THE
VEHICLE THAT IS WHERE THE GREENHOUSE GAS COMES FROM GAS OR
GREENHOUSE GAS COMES FROM GAS ORELECTRICITY.
ELECTRICITY. WHAT YOU ARE GETTING TO THE FACT
WHAT YOU ARE GETTING TO THE FACTTHE WAY THE LAW WAS PASS IT
THE WAY THE LAW WAS PASS IT TREATS ALL VMT THE SAME.
TREATS ALL VMT THE SAME. IT HAS IMPLICATIONS FOR
IT HAS IMPLICATIONS FOR MITIGATION.

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MITIGATION. THINGS THAT MIGHT REDUCE
THINGS THAT MIGHT REDUCE EMISSIONS AREN'T RELEVANT FOR
EMISSIONS AREN'T RELEVANT FOR 743.
743. THEY ARE TRYING TO REDUCE HOW
THEY ARE TRYING TO REDUCE HOW MUCH PEOPLE ARE DRIVING.
MUCH PEOPLE ARE DRIVING. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT. I KNOW THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
I KNOW THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUTMORE IN THAT CONTEXT.
MORE IN THAT CONTEXT. IN 375 IT IS VERY,

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IN 375 IT IS VERY, VERY RELEVANT.
VERY RELEVANT. AT ONE POINTS 375 WAS
AT ONE POINTS 375 WAS UNDERSTANDABLE MAKING THAT LEAP
UNDERSTANDABLE MAKING THAT LEAP FROM HOW FAR A VEHICLE TRAVELS
FROM HOW FAR A VEHICLE TRAVELS USING AS SURROGATE FOR RELEASE
USING AS SURROGATE FOR RELEASE OF GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS INTO
OF GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS INTOTHE ATMOSPHERE.
THE ATMOSPHERE. HOWEVER, SINCE SB375 IS PASSED
HOWEVER, SINCE SB375 IS PASSED AND IMPLEMENTED AND AND I AM

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AND IMPLEMENTED AND AND I AM SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE, TOO.
SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE, TOO. MARKET FOR ZERO EMISSION
MARKET FOR ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES HAS EXPANDED.
VEHICLES HAS EXPANDED. BY LAW IN CALIFORNIA IT HAS TO
BY LAW IN CALIFORNIA IT HAS TO FOR THE TIME BEING.
FOR THE TIME BEING. THERE IS A COURT CASE.
THERE IS A COURT CASE. I WANT TO STOP YOU HERE AND MAKE
I WANT TO STOP YOU HERE AND MAKESURE THAT WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME
SURE THAT WE ARE ALL ON THE SAMEPAGE IN TERMS OF UNDERSTANDING

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PAGE IN TERMS OF UNDERSTANDING THAT, IN TERMS OF ITS
THAT, IN TERMS OF ITS MEASUREMENT FOR SB375 OR OTHERS
MEASUREMENT FOR SB375 OR OTHERS THAT WHEN IT COMES TO GREENHOUSE
THAT WHEN IT COMES TO GREENHOUSEGAS CONNECTION, IT HAS SERIOUS
GAS CONNECTION, IT HAS SERIOUS SHORTCOMINGS ESPECIALLY RELATED
SHORTCOMINGS ESPECIALLY RELATED TO GAS TAX, TOO, BY THE WAY.

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TO GAS TAX, TOO, BY THE WAY. >> WE HAVE NINE FORMS OF METRIC
>> WE HAVE NINE FORMS OF METRIC IN PRACTICE.
IN PRACTICE. SOMETIMES WE ANALYZE FOR
SOMETIMES WE ANALYZE FOR GREENHOUSE GAS, AIR POLLUTANT,
GREENHOUSE GAS, AIR POLLUTANT, LAND USE PLANNING PURPOSES.
LAND USE PLANNING PURPOSES. GREEN AND GRAY ROADS SHOWS HOW
GREEN AND GRAY ROADS SHOWS HOW WE USE VMT AIR POLLUTION

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WE USE VMT AIR POLLUTION ANALYSIS.
ANALYSIS. WHERE IT IS GENERATED AND WHAT
WHERE IT IS GENERATED AND WHAT TYPES OF VEHICLES DETERMINES HOW
TYPES OF VEHICLES DETERMINES HOWMUCH FUEL IS BURNED HOW MUCH IT
MUCH FUEL IS BURNED HOW MUCH IT SHOWS UP.
SHOWS UP. NEAR SENSITIVERY SENATOR ONCE
NEAR SENSITIVERY SENATOR ONCE WAY OR FOR GREENHOUSE GAS A
WAY OR FOR GREENHOUSE GAS A DIFFERENT WAY.
DIFFERENT WAY. SIMPLE METRIC.
SIMPLE METRIC. IT CAN GET COMPLEX AS THE

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IT CAN GET COMPLEX AS THE DISCUSSION JUST ALLUDED TO.
DISCUSSION JUST ALLUDED TO. IN TERMS OF HOW WE GOT HERE.
IN TERMS OF HOW WE GOT HERE. WHERE HAS GIVEN US GOOD IDEA.
WHERE HAS GIVEN US GOOD IDEA. THERE IS A CONNECTION TO
THERE IS A CONNECTION TO GREENHOUSE GASES.
GREENHOUSE GASES. I WILL GO BACK TO AMEND B32 IN

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I WILL GO BACK TO AMEND B32 IN 2006 WHEN THE STATE FIRST
2006 WHEN THE STATE FIRST STARTED TO PASS GREENHOUSE
STARTED TO PASS GREENHOUSE GASES.
GASES. IT INTRODUCED TO CEQA.
IT INTRODUCED TO CEQA. FIRST TIME STATE INTRODUCED
FIRST TIME STATE INTRODUCED DIRECT METRIC TO CEQA.
DIRECT METRIC TO CEQA. DIDN'T TELL HOW TO MEASURE THE,
DIDN'T TELL HOW TO MEASURE THE, THRESHOLD.
THRESHOLD. BUT WE HAD TO ANALYZE IT.
BUT WE HAD TO ANALYZE IT. FAST FORWARD TO SB375.

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FAST FORWARD TO SB375. REDUCING VMT FROM LAND USE
REDUCING VMT FROM LAND USE TRANSPORTATION IS CHALLENGING.
TRANSPORTATION IS CHALLENGING. MPOs WERE TASKED WITH THAT.
MPOs WERE TASKED WITH THAT. THEY TRACK THAT.
THEY TRACK THAT. YOU CAN GO TO SB150 WHERE THEY
YOU CAN GO TO SB150 WHERE THEY TRACK PERFORMANCE HOW THEY HAVE
TRACK PERFORMANCE HOW THEY HAVE DONE OVER TIME.
DONE OVER TIME. VMT AND GREENHOUSE GAS IN THE

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VMT AND GREENHOUSE GAS IN THE STATE HAS CONTINUED TO INCREASE.
STATE HAS CONTINUED TO INCREASE.WE HAVE 743.
WE HAVE 743. MORE DIRECT EFFECT TO REDUCE
MORE DIRECT EFFECT TO REDUCE ACTUAL VEHICLE TRAVEL REGARDLESS
ACTUAL VEHICLE TRAVEL REGARDLESSOF WHAT POWERS THE CAR.
OF WHAT POWERS THE CAR. IT IS A PROXY FOR OTHER
IT IS A PROXY FOR OTHER POTENTIAL IMPACTS.
POTENTIAL IMPACTS. WE TALKED ABOUT GREENHOUSE GAS
WE TALKED ABOUT GREENHOUSE GAS AND AIR POLLUTION.
AND AIR POLLUTION. SAFETY IS ANOTHER ONE.
SAFETY IS ANOTHER ONE. MORE PEOPLE DRIVE MORE RISK TO

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MORE PEOPLE DRIVE MORE RISK TO BEING EXPOSED TO COLLISION.
BEING EXPOSED TO COLLISION. VMT IN CEQA MEASURES IMPACT OF
VMT IN CEQA MEASURES IMPACT OF DRIVING.
DRIVING. TENDS TO BE PROXY FOR OTHER
TENDS TO BE PROXY FOR OTHER THINGS.
THINGS. THAT IS HOW IT IS USED BY US
THAT IS HOW IT IS USED BY US PRACTITIONERS.
PRACTITIONERS. WHAT DID THE LEGISLATURE EXPECT
WHAT DID THE LEGISLATURE EXPECT WHEN THEY PASSED THIS?

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WHEN THEY PASSED THIS? REDUCING GREENHOUSE GRASSES FROM
REDUCING GREENHOUSE GRASSES FROMLEGISLATIVE INTENT.
LEGISLATIVE INTENT. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT TWO.
I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT TWO. ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION TO IMPROVE
ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION TO IMPROVEPUBLIC HEALTH.
PUBLIC HEALTH. ENCOURAGING INFILL DEVELOPMENT.
ENCOURAGING INFILL DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE TO THINK ABOUT THREE
WE ARE TO THINK ABOUT THREE OUTCOMES WHEN WE MAKE DECISIONS
OUTCOMES WHEN WE MAKE DECISIONS METRICS, METHOD TO USE AND WHAT

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METRICS, METHOD TO USE AND WHAT TYPE OF MITIGATION MEASURES ARE
TYPE OF MITIGATION MEASURES ARE MOST EFFECTIVE.
MOST EFFECTIVE. THAT TAKES US TO MORE DIFFICULT
THAT TAKES US TO MORE DIFFICULT PARTS OF IMPLEMENTING 743.
PARTS OF IMPLEMENTING 743. THRESHOLDS AND MITIGATION.
THRESHOLDS AND MITIGATION. WHAT CONSTITUTES SIGNIFICANT
WHAT CONSTITUTES SIGNIFICANT IMPACT?
IMPACT? UNDEUNDER THE CEQA WE HAVE TO

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UNDEUNDER THE CEQA WE HAVE TO DETERMINE WHEN THE CHANGE IS
DETERMINE WHEN THE CHANGE IS SIGNIFICANT.
SIGNIFICANT. GOOD VERSUS BAD VMT.
GOOD VERSUS BAD VMT. MOST DIFFICULT DECISION LEAD
MOST DIFFICULT DECISION LEAD AGENCIES STRUGGLE WITH.
AGENCIES STRUGGLE WITH. WITHIN THE BU BU BUILT ENVIRONME

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WITHIN THE BU BU BUILT ENVIRONMEHAVE PLACES WHERE HOMES, JOBS,
HAVE PLACES WHERE HOMES, JOBS, SCHOOLS ARE LONG DISTANCES.
SCHOOLS ARE LONG DISTANCES. CERTAIN DRIVING IS REQUIRED TO
CERTAIN DRIVING IS REQUIRED TO FULLY PARTICIPATE IN THE
FULLY PARTICIPATE IN THE ECONOMY, IN SOCIETY, HEALTHCARE,
ECONOMY, IN SOCIETY, HEALTHCARE,GROCERIES.
GROCERIES. WHEN YOU ARE ESTABLISHING
WHEN YOU ARE ESTABLISHING THRESHOLDS, THE WAY CEQA WORKS

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THRESHOLDS, THE WAY CEQA WORKS EACH LEAD AGENCY, CITY, COUNTY,
EACH LEAD AGENCY, CITY, COUNTY, CALTRANS HAS OPTION TO PICK
CALTRANS HAS OPTION TO PICK THRESHOLD.
THRESHOLD. STATE HAS MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.
STATE HAS MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. THEY DID NOT CONNECT THRESHOLDS
THEY DID NOT CONNECT THRESHOLDS TO INFILL HOUSING OR PROMOTING
TO INFILL HOUSING OR PROMOTING ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION THEY WERE
ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION THEY WERE TIED TO GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION

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TIED TO GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTIONGOALS.
GOALS. CITIES AND COUNTIES AND CALTRANS
CITIES AND COUNTIES AND CALTRANSHAVE DONE THEIR OWN ANALYSIS FOR
HAVE DONE THEIR OWN ANALYSIS FORTHE THRESHOLDS.
THE THRESHOLDS. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME.
THEY ARE NOT THE SAME. IT VARIES DEPENDING HOW THEY
IT VARIES DEPENDING HOW THEY VALUE E.M.T. VERSUS OTHER
VALUE E.M.T. VERSUS OTHER OBJECTIVES FUTURE GROWTH,
OBJECTIVES FUTURE GROWTH, DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC

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DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC ACTIVITY.
ACTIVITY. ONCE WE FIGURE OUT THRESHOLDS WE
ONCE WE FIGURE OUT THRESHOLDS WEHAVE IMPACTS TYPICALLY.
HAVE IMPACTS TYPICALLY. WE HAVE TO MITIGATE THOSE
WE HAVE TO MITIGATE THOSE IMPACTS.
IMPACTS. ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT VMT
ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT VMT IMPACTS WHY WE DRIVE SO MUCH.

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IMPACTS WHY WE DRIVE SO MUCH. BUILT ENVIRONMENTS HAVE BIG
BUILT ENVIRONMENTS HAVE BIG FACTORS.
FACTORS. WE REFER TO THE D'S.
WE REFER TO THE D'S. VARIABLES.
VARIABLES. DENSITY OF POPULATION.
DENSITY OF POPULATION. EMPLOYMENT, CLOSER PEOPLE ARE
EMPLOYMENT, CLOSER PEOPLE ARE LIVING TOWARDS DESTINATION
LIVING TOWARDS DESTINATION SHORTER TRIPS.
SHORTER TRIPS. MORE LIKELY YOU COULD WALK,
MORE LIKELY YOU COULD WALK, BIKE, TAKE TRANSIT.
BIKE, TAKE TRANSIT. AS YOU IMPROVE THE DENSITY AND
AS YOU IMPROVE THE DENSITY AND GET PEOPLE CLOSER TOGETHER IF

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GET PEOPLE CLOSER TOGETHER IF YOU HAVE A SUPPORTIVE NETWORK.
YOU HAVE A SUPPORTIVE NETWORK. WALKING, BICYCLING, TRANSIT.
WALKING, BICYCLING, TRANSIT. IF YOU HAVE TO DRIVE THE
IF YOU HAVE TO DRIVE THE DISTANCE IS SHORT.
DISTANCE IS SHORT. THESE ARE ALL THE PHYSICAL FORMS
THESE ARE ALL THE PHYSICAL FORMSOF OUR DEVELOPMENT THAT MAY
OF OUR DEVELOPMENT THAT MAY BEING A REAL DIFFERENCE.
BEING A REAL DIFFERENCE. AT BOTTOM OF THE LIST IS DEMAND
AT BOTTOM OF THE LIST IS DEMAND MANAGEMENT.
MANAGEMENT. YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF
YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF TRANSPORTATION DEMAND

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TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT.
MANAGEMENT. TDM.
TDM. YOU ARE USING INCENTIVES OR
YOU ARE USING INCENTIVES OR DISINCENTIVES TO CHANGE
DISINCENTIVES TO CHANGE INDIVIDUAL BEHAVIOR.
INDIVIDUAL BEHAVIOR. THE CHALLENGE WITH D VARIABLES.
THE CHALLENGE WITH D VARIABLES. THINK OF A PYRAMIDS.
THINK OF A PYRAMIDS. THEY ARE IN THE PHYSICAL
THEY ARE IN THE PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENT HOW MUCH WE NEED TO
DEVELOPMENT HOW MUCH WE NEED TO TRAVEL BY VEHICLES.

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TRAVEL BY VEHICLES. REGIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE,
REGIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE, POLICIES AND LOCATION EFFICIENCY
POLICIES AND LOCATION EFFICIENCYOF LAND USE IS BIGGEST EFFECT IS
OF LAND USE IS BIGGEST EFFECT ISWHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE TO
WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE TO REDUCE HOW MUCH PEOPLE NEED TO
REDUCE HOW MUCH PEOPLE NEED TO DRIVE.
DRIVE. AT TOP IS WHERE WE ARE LEAST
AT TOP IS WHERE WE ARE LEAST EFFECTIVE.
EFFECTIVE. THAT IS BUILDING OPERATIONS OR
THAT IS BUILDING OPERATIONS OR TDM.
TDM. PICTURE OFFICE BUILDING WHERE
PICTURE OFFICE BUILDING WHERE YOU ARE OFFERING THE TENANTS OF

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YOU ARE OFFERING THE TENANTS OF THE BUILDING TRANSIT PASSES.
THE BUILDING TRANSIT PASSES. THAT HAS A NUDGE EFFECT.
THAT HAS A NUDGE EFFECT. IT HAS TO WORK WITH EACH
IT HAS TO WORK WITH EACH INDIVIDUAL PERSON.
INDIVIDUAL PERSON. EACH PERSON HAS REASONS FOR
EACH PERSON HAS REASONS FOR DRIVING OR TAKING TRANSIT.
DRIVING OR TAKING TRANSIT. WHEN YOU NUDGE INDIVIDUALS IT IS
WHEN YOU NUDGE INDIVIDUALS IT ISDIFFICULT TO CHANGE BEHAVIOR.
DIFFICULT TO CHANGE BEHAVIOR. WE ARE LESS EFFECTIVE AT THE TOP
WE ARE LESS EFFECTIVE AT THE TOPOF THE PYRAMIDS.
OF THE PYRAMIDS. PROBLEM IS IF YOU ARE DOING

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PROBLEM IS IF YOU ARE DOING TRANSIT PASSES YOU HAVE TO DO IT
TRANSIT PASSES YOU HAVE TO DO ITEVERY YEAR CONTINUALLY.
EVERY YEAR CONTINUALLY. EXPENSIVE.
EXPENSIVE. GUESS WHAT?
GUESS WHAT? BUILDING TENANTS CHANGE OVER
BUILDING TENANTS CHANGE OVER TIME.
TIME. FOUR YEARS FROM NOW THEY COULD
FOUR YEARS FROM NOW THEY COULD BE DIFFERENT.
BE DIFFERENT. SAME STRATEGY DOESN'T WORK THEY
SAME STRATEGY DOESN'T WORK THEY DON'T WANT TRANSIT THEY WOULD
DON'T WANT TRANSIT THEY WOULD RATHER BIKE.
RATHER BIKE. YOU ARE CONSTANTLY TRYING TO
YOU ARE CONSTANTLY TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH TENANTS TO CHANGE

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KEEP UP WITH TENANTS TO CHANGE STRATEGIES.
STRATEGIES. THEY REQUIRE YOU TO PAY FOR THEM
THEY REQUIRE YOU TO PAY FOR THEMEVERY SINGLE YEAR.
EVERY SINGLE YEAR. WHEN WE THINK OF THIS IN
WHEN WE THINK OF THIS IN CONSTRUCT OF MITIGATION PROGRAM
CONSTRUCT OF MITIGATION PROGRAM OR CRAFTING PROGRAM.
OR CRAFTING PROGRAM. WHAT HAPPENS NOW IN PRACTICE
WHAT HAPPENS NOW IN PRACTICE WITHOUT PROGRAM APPROACH EVERY
WITHOUT PROGRAM APPROACH EVERY PROJECT MITIGATES ITS OWN
PROJECT MITIGATES ITS OWN IMPACTS OF THE TRANSPORTATION

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IMPACTS OF THE TRANSPORTATION THEY ARE DONE ON SYSTEM
THEY ARE DONE ON SYSTEM MITIGATION.
MITIGATION. MITIGATION IS TRIED TO BE BUILT
MITIGATION IS TRIED TO BE BUILT INTO THE PROJECT.
INTO THE PROJECT. YOU MIGHT IMAGINE THAT IS
YOU MIGHT IMAGINE THAT IS DIFFICULT ON FREEWAY.
DIFFICULT ON FREEWAY. HOW DO YOU BUILD ELEMENTS INTO
HOW DO YOU BUILD ELEMENTS INTO THE FREEWAY TO REDUCE VMT?
THE FREEWAY TO REDUCE VMT? EASIER FOR COMPLETE STREETS
EASIER FOR COMPLETE STREETS WHERE INTEND IS TO ACCOMMODATES
WHERE INTEND IS TO ACCOMMODATES DIFFERENT USERS AND MODES.

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DIFFERENT USERS AND MODES. STILL A CHALLENGE.
STILL A CHALLENGE. WE LOOK TO OFF SYSTEM
WE LOOK TO OFF SYSTEM MITIGATION.
MITIGATION. THESE ARE OTHER PROJECTS THAT
THESE ARE OTHER PROJECTS THAT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED IN THE
COULD BE IMPLEMENTED IN THE CITY, COUNTY OR REGION.
CITY, COUNTY OR REGION. CHALLENGE IS THERE IS A LOT OF
CHALLENGE IS THERE IS A LOT OF COORDINATION BETWEEN
COORDINATION BETWEEN JURISDICTIONS.
JURISDICTIONS. PART OF CEQA MITIGATION IT HAS
PART OF CEQA MITIGATION IT HAS TO BE EFFECTIVE AND ENFORCEABLE.
TO BE EFFECTIVE AND ENFORCEABLE.IF IT IS IN OTHER JURISDICTION

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IF IT IS IN OTHER JURISDICTION YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT
YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THAT JURISDICTION TO
WITH THAT JURISDICTION TO IMPLEMENT.
IMPLEMENT. THAT LEADS TO PROGRAM LEVEL
THAT LEADS TO PROGRAM LEVEL SOLUTIONS.
SOLUTIONS. HOW DO WE TAKE AS CITY OR COUNTY
HOW DO WE TAKE AS CITY OR COUNTYOR SUBREGIONAL LEVEL.
OR SUBREGIONAL LEVEL. HOW DO WE PULL MOST EFFECTIVE
HOW DO WE PULL MOST EFFECTIVE MIDGATIONS TOGETHER TO MAKE IT
MIDGATIONS TOGETHER TO MAKE IT EASIER TO IMPLEMENT.

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EASIER TO IMPLEMENT. AGENCIES ARE EXPLORING NOW.
AGENCIES ARE EXPLORING NOW. IN PRACTICE ON THE SYSTEM
IN PRACTICE ON THE SYSTEM MITIGATION ONLY.
MITIGATION ONLY. WE ARE JUST TRYING TO BUILDS TO
WE ARE JUST TRYING TO BUILDS TO PROJECTS.
PROJECTS. EASIER IF YOU ARE DOING THIS FOR
EASIER IF YOU ARE DOING THIS FORARTERIAL PROJECTS, LOCAL AGENCY
ARTERIAL PROJECTS, LOCAL AGENCY PROJECTS.
PROJECTS. GOOD EXAMPLE FROM THE COMPLETE
GOOD EXAMPLE FROM THE COMPLETE STREETS MASTER PLAN.
STREETS MASTER PLAN. BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN

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BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES DIRECT LEE TO THE
FACILITIES DIRECT LEE TO THE PROJECT.
PROJECT. OFF SYSTEM YOU CAN HAVE BIGGER
OFF SYSTEM YOU CAN HAVE BIGGER EFFECT AND INVEST IN TRAIL
EFFECT AND INVEST IN TRAIL SYSTEMS COUNTY WIDE.
SYSTEMS COUNTY WIDE. INVEST IN COUNTY WIDE TRANSIT.
INVEST IN COUNTY WIDE TRANSIT. MORE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A
MORE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A BIGGER EFFECT.
BIGGER EFFECT. WHEN WE THINK ABOUT VMT
WHEN WE THINK ABOUT VMT MITIGATION TO BE COST-EFFECTIVE,

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MITIGATION TO BE COST-EFFECTIVE,LARGEST EFFECT IS IMPORTANT.
LARGEST EFFECT IS IMPORTANT. IF WE ONLY WORK AT PROJECT
IF WE ONLY WORK AT PROJECT SCALE, WE HAVE LESS OPPORTUNITY
SCALE, WE HAVE LESS OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
TO DO THAT. HERE IS ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE
HERE IS ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE BUILDING INTO THE PROJECT.
BUILDING INTO THE PROJECT. VRT LANES, TRANSIT MORE
VRT LANES, TRANSIT MORE EFFECTIVE ARE TYPES ARE PROJECTS
EFFECTIVE ARE TYPES ARE PROJECTSTHAT ARE VRT MITIGATION TO

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THAT ARE VRT MITIGATION TO CREATE THE IMPACTS.
CREATE THE IMPACTS. ANOTHER ANOTHER EXAMPLE MOBILITY
ANOTHER ANOTHER EXAMPLE MOBILITYHUBS WHERE WE TAKE TRANSIT
HUBS WHERE WE TAKE TRANSIT STATIONS TO IMPROVE ABILITY TO
STATIONS TO IMPROVE ABILITY TO EXTEND FIRST AND LAST MILE.
EXTEND FIRST AND LAST MILE. IN SOME IMPROVEMENTS YOU CAN
IN SOME IMPROVEMENTS YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO THINGS LIKE e-BIKE
ACTUALLY DO THINGS LIKE e-BIKE SHARE.
SHARE. THOSE THINGS.
THOSE THINGS. GO BEYOND ONE MILE EASILY.
GO BEYOND ONE MILE EASILY. JUST MAKING IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE

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JUST MAKING IT EASIER FOR PEOPLETO GET AROUND WITHOUT HAVING TO
TO GET AROUND WITHOUT HAVING TO DRIVE.
DRIVE. WHAT THIS IS GOING TO LEAD YOU
WHAT THIS IS GOING TO LEAD YOU TO.
TO. YOU WILL SEE IN OTHER SESSIONS.
YOU WILL SEE IN OTHER SESSIONS. THINKING ABOUT PROGRAM LEVEL
THINKING ABOUT PROGRAM LEVEL MITIGATION.
MITIGATION. YOU PROBABLY HEARD OF IMPACT FEE
YOU PROBABLY HEARD OF IMPACT FEEPROGRAMS.
PROGRAMS. A FORM OF PROGRAM-BASED
A FORM OF PROGRAM-BASED MITIGATION.
MITIGATION. THERE ARE IMPACT FEE PROGRAMS

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THERE ARE IMPACT FEE PROGRAMS DEVELOPED IN THE STATE BASED ON
DEVELOPED IN THE STATE BASED ON REDUCING VMT.
REDUCING VMT. FIRST IN L.A.
FIRST IN L.A. NOW THEY ARE LOOKING TO SIMPLER
NOW THEY ARE LOOKING TO SIMPLER PROGRAMS.
PROGRAMS. VMT MITIGATION EXCHANGESES AND
VMT MITIGATION EXCHANGESES AND BANKS.
BANKS. EXCHANGES ARE A LIST OF PROJECTS
EXCHANGES ARE A LIST OF PROJECTSEVIDENCE THEY REDUCE VMT AND
EVIDENCE THEY REDUCE VMT AND COULD BE EFFECTIVELY BUILT BY

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COULD BE EFFECTIVELY BUILT BY PROJECT APPLICANT OR PAID FOR
PROJECT APPLICANT OR PAID FOR FULLY BY PROJECT APPLICANT
FULLY BY PROJECT APPLICANT CREATING VMT IMPACTS.
CREATING VMT IMPACTS. VMT BANKS ARE MORE COMPLEX.
VMT BANKS ARE MORE COMPLEX. YOU PURCHASE VMT REDUCTION
YOU PURCHASE VMT REDUCTION CREDITS BASED ON HOW MANY VMT
CREDITS BASED ON HOW MANY VMT YOUR PROJECT GENERATES ABOVE THE
YOUR PROJECT GENERATES ABOVE THETHRESHOLD.
THRESHOLD. YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH

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YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH VERIFICATION ALL PROJECTS THE
VERIFICATION ALL PROJECTS THE BANK IS GOING TO PAY FOR WILL
BANK IS GOING TO PAY FOR WILL REDUCE VMT.
REDUCE VMT. A WHOLE VERIFICATION COMPLEX
A WHOLE VERIFICATION COMPLEX THAT IS COMPLEX.
THAT IS COMPLEX. WE WILL SPEND MORE TIME TALKING
WE WILL SPEND MORE TIME TALKING IN OTHER SESSIONS ABOUT THE
IN OTHER SESSIONS ABOUT THE DETAILS THAT IS THE OVERVIEW.
DETAILS THAT IS THE OVERVIEW. WE WILL GO DIRECTLY TO
WE WILL GO DIRECTLY TO QUESTIONS.
QUESTIONS. >> VERY GOOD.
>> VERY GOOD. THANK YOU.

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THANK YOU. DIRECTOR DICKINSON.
DIRECTOR DICKINSON. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. IT IS QUITE INTRIGUING.
IT IS QUITE INTRIGUING. I WANT TO COMMENT MORE IN A
I WANT TO COMMENT MORE IN A MOMENT.
MOMENT. I WILL SAY BY WAY OF FULL
I WILL SAY BY WAY OF FULL DISCLOSURE THAT, OF COURSE,
DISCLOSURE THAT, OF COURSE, SB743 WAS A BILL BY THEN SENATE

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SB743 WAS A BILL BY THEN SENATE PRO TEM DARRELL STEINBERG.
PRO TEM DARRELL STEINBERG. I MANAGED THE BILL ON THE
I MANAGED THE BILL ON THE ASSEMBLY FLOOR.
ASSEMBLY FLOOR. I HAVE A LITTLE HISTORY WITH IT
I HAVE A LITTLE HISTORY WITH IT AS WELL.
AS WELL. IT WAS FUNDAMENTALLY FOCUSED
IT WAS FUNDAMENTALLY FOCUSED TWO THINGS.
TWO THINGS. ONE, GET AWAY FROM USING LEVEL
ONE, GET AWAY FROM USING LEVEL OF SERVICE AS MEASURE FOR WHAT

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OF SERVICE AS MEASURE FOR WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE TO MITIGATE
NEEDED TO BE DONE TO MITIGATE TRAFFIC IMPACTS WITH NEW
TRAFFIC IMPACTS WITH NEW DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE LEVEL OF
DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE LEVEL OF SERVICE JUST MEANT YOU BUILDS
SERVICE JUST MEANT YOU BUILDS BIGGER FACILITIES RATHER THAN
BIGGER FACILITIES RATHER THAN LOOKING AT HOW TO REDUCE TRAVEL.
LOOKING AT HOW TO REDUCE TRAVEL.THAT WAS ONE CORE OBJECTIVE.
THAT WAS ONE CORE OBJECTIVE. THE SECOND WAS REALLY WHAT YOU
THE SECOND WAS REALLY WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT

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HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT PRIMARILY WHICH IN EFFECT WAS
PRIMARILY WHICH IN EFFECT WAS TRYING TO HAVE PROJECTS ACTUALLY
TRYING TO HAVE PROJECTS ACTUALLYINTERNALIZE EXTERNALITY WHAT
INTERNALIZE EXTERNALITY WHAT THEY WERE PUTTING INTO THE AIR
THEY WERE PUTTING INTO THE AIR IN TERMS OF GREENHOUSE GASES.
IN TERMS OF GREENHOUSE GASES. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T DO VERY OFTEN IN A LOT OF
DO VERY OFTEN IN A LOT OF PROJECTS IN A LOT OF WHAT WE DO
PROJECTS IN A LOT OF WHAT WE DO IN THE PUBLIC REALM.

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IN THE PUBLIC REALM. WHAT IS INTRIGUING TO ME ABOUT
WHAT IS INTRIGUING TO ME ABOUT THIS. OF COURSE, THERE IS A
THIS. OF COURSE, THERE IS A STRUGGLE WITH HOW MUCH
STRUGGLE WITH HOW MUCH MITIGATION COSTS FOR SIGNIFICANT
MITIGATION COSTS FOR SIGNIFICANTNEW PROJECTS BECAUSE THE
NEW PROJECTS BECAUSE THE EXTERNALITY IS QUITE SIGNIFICANT
EXTERNALITY IS QUITE SIGNIFICANTWHAT IS PUT INTO THE AIR.
WHAT IS PUT INTO THE AIR. IT MAKES IT HARD ON A SINGLE

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IT MAKES IT HARD ON A SINGLE PROJECT BASIS A LOT OF TIMES
PROJECT BASIS A LOT OF TIMES ECONOMICALLY TO MAKE THAT
ECONOMICALLY TO MAKE THAT PROJECT WORK WITH THE KIND OF
PROJECT WORK WITH THE KIND OF MITIGATION REQUIRED.
MITIGATION REQUIRED. IDEA OF MITIGATION BANK IS
IDEA OF MITIGATION BANK IS INTRIGUING TO ME.
INTRIGUING TO ME. THE YARD OF LOOKING AT WHAT YOU
THE YARD OF LOOKING AT WHAT YOU COULD -- THE IDEA OF LOOKING AT
COULD -- THE IDEA OF LOOKING AT WHAT YOU COULD DO COUNTY WIDE OR

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WHAT YOU COULD DO COUNTY WIDE ORLARGER REGIONAL BASIS TO
LARGER REGIONAL BASIS TO MITIGATE THE IMPACTS OF
MITIGATE THE IMPACTS OF PROJECTS.
PROJECTS. IT SEEMS TO ME TO HAVE A LOT OF
IT SEEMS TO ME TO HAVE A LOT OF PROMISE.
PROMISE. ONE COULD SAY IT IS PROBLEMATIC
ONE COULD SAY IT IS PROBLEMATIC TO THE EXTENT IT MIGHT ALLOW

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TO THE EXTENT IT MIGHT ALLOW PROJECTS TO HAPPEN THAT
PROJECTS TO HAPPEN THAT OTHERWISE YOU WOULD SAY THAT IS
OTHERWISE YOU WOULD SAY THAT IS NOT A PROJECT WE SHOULD BUILD
NOT A PROJECT WE SHOULD BUILD BECAUSE YOU GET MITIGATION HERE
BECAUSE YOU GET MITIGATION HERE BUT YOU GET IMPACTS OVER THERE
BUT YOU GET IMPACTS OVER THERE WERE THE NEW PROJECT IS BUILT.
WERE THE NEW PROJECT IS BUILT. I THINK THAT IS GOING TO BE AN
I THINK THAT IS GOING TO BE AN ELEMENT OF DISCUSSION WITH
ELEMENT OF DISCUSSION WITH RESPECT TO THE IDEA OF SETTING

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RESPECT TO THE IDEA OF SETTING UP A BANK, BUT AT THE SAME TIME
UP A BANK, BUT AT THE SAME TIME THERE ARE PROJECTS CLEARLY WE
THERE ARE PROJECTS CLEARLY WE WOULD ALL LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN TO
WOULD ALL LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN TO ENHANCE AND GROW OUR COUNTY, OUR
ENHANCE AND GROW OUR COUNTY, OURREGION, OUR CITIES.
REGION, OUR CITIES. LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVE FORMS OF
LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVE FORMS OF MEETING REQUIREMENTS OF SB743

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MEETING REQUIREMENTS OF SB743 LIKE USING THE BANK TO ME MAKE
LIKE USING THE BANK TO ME MAKE GREAT SENSE TO EXPLORE.
GREAT SENSE TO EXPLORE. THIS IS FIRST OF THREE
THIS IS FIRST OF THREE PRESENTATIONS.
PRESENTATIONS. I LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT TWO.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT TWO. CAN YOU TELL US WHETHER ANYONE
CAN YOU TELL US WHETHER ANYONE HAS ANY KIND OF CONCRETE OR

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HAS ANY KIND OF CONCRETE OR TANGIBLE WAY STARTED TO WORK ON
TANGIBLE WAY STARTED TO WORK ON OR MOVE FORWARD ANYPLACE AROUND
OR MOVE FORWARD ANYPLACE AROUND THE STATE THE IDEA OF MITIGATION
THE STATE THE IDEA OF MITIGATIONBANK FOR VMT?
BANK FOR VMT? >> THE THREE DIFFERENT PROGRAM
>> THE THREE DIFFERENT PROGRAM TYPES IMPACT FEES, EXCHANGE OR
TYPES IMPACT FEES, EXCHANGE OR BANK.
BANK. IMPACT FEES IN PLACE IN A FEW
IMPACT FEES IN PLACE IN A FEW PLACES.
PLACES. FIRST IN LA AS PART OF THE WEST
FIRST IN LA AS PART OF THE WEST SIDE SPECIFIC PLAN.

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SIDE SPECIFIC PLAN. CITY OF ORANGE ALSO HAS ONE.
CITY OF ORANGE ALSO HAS ONE. SOME JURISDICTIONS HAVE DONE IN
SOME JURISDICTIONS HAVE DONE IN LIEU FEE PROGRAMS.
LIEU FEE PROGRAMS. THERE ARE PILOT STUDIES.
THERE ARE PILOT STUDIES. CITY OF LA THROUGH LA METRO DID
CITY OF LA THROUGH LA METRO DID ONE OF THE PILOTS.
ONE OF THE PILOTS. THEY WERE TESTING THE USE OF

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THEY WERE TESTING THE USE OF TRANSIT PASS SUBSIDIES AS AN
TRANSIT PASS SUBSIDIES AS AN EXCHANGE OR BANK FORMAT.
EXCHANGE OR BANK FORMAT. THEY MOVED THINGS PROBABLY THE
THEY MOVED THINGS PROBABLY THE FURTHEST ALONG WHERE THEY HAD
FURTHEST ALONG WHERE THEY HAD THE DATA TO DO VERIFICATION.
THE DATA TO DO VERIFICATION. YOU DO FIND SOME THINGS THAT MAY
YOU DO FIND SOME THINGS THAT MAYBE ARE UNIQUE OR SURPRISING.
BE ARE UNIQUE OR SURPRISING. THIS IS ALL NEW.
THIS IS ALL NEW. EACH OF THOSE PILOTS GOING ON IS

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EACH OF THOSE PILOTS GOING ON ISHELPING US TO ADVANCE PRACTICE
HELPING US TO ADVANCE PRACTICE TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO DO
TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO DOTHIS.
THIS. IT IS VERY EARLY.
IT IS VERY EARLY. PEOPLE ARE IN THE MORE PILOT
PEOPLE ARE IN THE MORE PILOT STAGE THAN, YES, WE ARE RUNNING
STAGE THAN, YES, WE ARE RUNNING THIS TWO OR THREE YEARS AND WE
THIS TWO OR THREE YEARS AND WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING.
KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING. >> IN SUBSEQUENT PRESENTATIONS
>> IN SUBSEQUENT PRESENTATIONS WILL YOU TELL US MORE WHAT IS
WILL YOU TELL US MORE WHAT IS HAPPENING AROUND THE STATE?

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HAPPENING AROUND THE STATE? >> YES, WE CAN COMPARE IMPACT
>> YES, WE CAN COMPARE IMPACT FEES, WHO IS DOING BANKS OR
FEES, WHO IS DOING BANKS OR EXCHANGES, HOW FAR DID THEY
EXCHANGES, HOW FAR DID THEY ACTUALLY GET?
ACTUALLY GET? WE WILL KEEP THAT UP-TO-DATE AS
WE WILL KEEP THAT UP-TO-DATE AS CLOSE TO PRESENTATION DATE AS
CLOSE TO PRESENTATION DATE AS POSSIBLE.
POSSIBLE. >> THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AS WE
>> THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AS WE THINK WHAT TO DO IN SACRAMENTO

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THINK WHAT TO DO IN SACRAMENTO COUNTY.
COUNTY. I TAKE THE CHAIR'S POINT.
I TAKE THE CHAIR'S POINT. OF COURSE, IN 2013 WHEN THIS
OF COURSE, IN 2013 WHEN THIS LEGISLATION WAS BEING CONSIDERED
LEGISLATION WAS BEING CONSIDEREDWE DIDN'T HAVE NEARLY PERCENTAGE
WE DIDN'T HAVE NEARLY PERCENTAGEOF EVs OR THE ZERO EMISSION
OF EVs OR THE ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES ON THE ROAD THAT WE
VEHICLES ON THE ROAD THAT WE HAVE TODAY.
HAVE TODAY. MAYBE SOMEONE WANTS TO LOOK AT

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MAYBE SOMEONE WANTS TO LOOK AT AMENDING 743 TO TAKE THAT INTO
AMENDING 743 TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.
ACCOUNT. IN THE MEANTIME, WE STILL ARE
IN THE MEANTIME, WE STILL ARE DOMINATED BY COMBUSTION ENGINE
DOMINATED BY COMBUSTION ENGINE AND GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.
AND GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. TO ME IT MAKES SENSE TO TRY TO

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TO ME IT MAKES SENSE TO TRY TO IMPLEMENT THIS AS IT WAS
IMPLEMENT THIS AS IT WAS INTENDED WHEN THE LEGISLATION
INTENDED WHEN THE LEGISLATION WAS SIGNED INTO LAW.
WAS SIGNED INTO LAW. THANKS, MR. CHAIR.
THANKS, MR. CHAIR. >> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. DIRECTOR KENT.
DIRECTOR KENT. >> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. I AM GOING TO PURPORT TO SPEAK
I AM GOING TO PURPORT TO SPEAK FOR SOME UNSPECIFIED
FOR SOME UNSPECIFIED CONSTITUENCY FOR WHICH I MAY OR

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CONSTITUENCY FOR WHICH I MAY OR MAY NOT SPEAK ACCURATELY FOR
MAY NOT SPEAK ACCURATELY FOR MAJORITY OR MINORITY.
MAJORITY OR MINORITY. I HEAR A ECONOMIC TRADE-OFF
I HEAR A ECONOMIC TRADE-OFF IMPLIED BY ON SYSTEM, OFF SYSTEM
IMPLIED BY ON SYSTEM, OFF SYSTEMMITIGATION INVESTMENT IN
MITIGATION INVESTMENT IN CAPACITY AND INCENTIVES AND
CAPACITY AND INCENTIVES AND DISINCENTIVES.
DISINCENTIVES. SIMPLISTICALLY IT AMOUNTS TO NO

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SIMPLISTICALLY IT AMOUNTS TO NO MORE LOCAL OPPORTUNITY FOR
MORE LOCAL OPPORTUNITY FOR EMPLOYMENT.
EMPLOYMENT. INDIVIDUALS HAVE TO MAKE LIVING
INDIVIDUALS HAVE TO MAKE LIVING IN EXISTING CORRIDORS WITH
IN EXISTING CORRIDORS WITH RESTRICTED CAPACITIES.
RESTRICTED CAPACITIES. PUTTING INVESTMENT IN LOCAL
PUTTING INVESTMENT IN LOCAL CAPACITY DOES NOT ASSIST WITH
CAPACITY DOES NOT ASSIST WITH ECONOMIC WELL-BEING.
ECONOMIC WELL-BEING. WHAT FREEDOM DO YOU HAVE TO TAKE

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WHAT FREEDOM DO YOU HAVE TO TAKETHAT INTO ACCOUNT AND HOW DO YOU
THAT INTO ACCOUNT AND HOW DO YOUMANAGE THAT TRADEOFF IN POLICY?
MANAGE THAT TRADEOFF IN POLICY? >> THAT IS A FUN QUESTION.
>> THAT IS A FUN QUESTION. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT VMT.
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT VMT. YOU CAN BREAK IT DOWN INTO
YOU CAN BREAK IT DOWN INTO COMPONENT PARTS.
COMPONENT PARTS. SOME TRIPS ARE MADE BECAUSE THEY
SOME TRIPS ARE MADE BECAUSE THEYARE GOING TO WORK.
ARE GOING TO WORK. COMMUTE TRIP.
COMMUTE TRIP. MIGHT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF LONGER
MIGHT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF LONGER DISTANCE CORRIDORS.
DISTANCE CORRIDORS. OTHER TRIPS ARE MADE NEAR THE

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OTHER TRIPS ARE MADE NEAR THE HOME TO GO TO SCHOOL, GROCERY
HOME TO GO TO SCHOOL, GROCERY SHOPPING, TO GO MEET A FRIEND
SHOPPING, TO GO MEET A FRIEND FOR COFFEE.
FOR COFFEE. WE HAVE VMT FOR DIFFERENT
WE HAVE VMT FOR DIFFERENT PURPOSES AND USING DIFFERENT
PURPOSES AND USING DIFFERENT PARTS OF NETWORK.
PARTS OF NETWORK. YOU CAN MEASURE VMT FOR EACH
YOU CAN MEASURE VMT FOR EACH COMPONENT PART AND TARGET
COMPONENT PART AND TARGET MITIGATION TO EACH COMPONENT
MITIGATION TO EACH COMPONENT PART.
PART. ARE YOU TRYING TO REDUCE LONG

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ARE YOU TRYING TO REDUCE LONG DISTANCE COMMUTED TRIPS OR
DISTANCE COMMUTED TRIPS OR DRIVING TRIPS AND GET MORE MADE
DRIVING TRIPS AND GET MORE MADE BY WALKING AND BICYCLES OR ON
BY WALKING AND BICYCLES OR ON TRANSIT?
TRANSIT? YOU CAN BECOME SOPHISTICATED HOW
YOU CAN BECOME SOPHISTICATED HOWTO TARGET TYPE OF VMT TO ANALYE
TO TARGET TYPE OF VMT TO ANALYEAND STRATEGY TO ADDRESS WHAT
AND STRATEGY TO ADDRESS WHAT YOUR COMMUNITY VALUES MOST.

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YOUR COMMUNITY VALUES MOST. NO RIGHT OR WRONG.
NO RIGHT OR WRONG. HOW DO COMMUNITIES VALUE VMT AND
HOW DO COMMUNITIES VALUE VMT ANDVMT REDUCTION.
VMT REDUCTION. THREE BUCKETS.
THREE BUCKETS. WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO PROTECT
WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO PROTECT IN COMMUNITY?
IN COMMUNITY? WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO AVOID AS
WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO AVOID AS WORLD CHANGES AND WHAT ARE YOU
WORLD CHANGES AND WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO CREATE?
TRYING TO CREATE? MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO WALK AND
MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO WALK AND BIKE IS ONE THING.

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BIKE IS ONE THING. PROTECT EXISTING ABILITY TO GET
PROTECT EXISTING ABILITY TO GET TO WORK ON TIME?
TO WORK ON TIME? THOSE ARE ESSENTIAL QUESTIONS TO
THOSE ARE ESSENTIAL QUESTIONS TOANSWER TO PICK RIGHT METRICS HOW
ANSWER TO PICK RIGHT METRICS HOWTO BREAK THEM DOWN A AND TAKE GT
TO BREAK THEM DOWN A AND TAKE GTMITIGATION ACCORDINGLY.
MITIGATION ACCORDINGLY. >> DIRECTOR HUME.
>> DIRECTOR HUME. >> I WILL STAY WITH THIS LINE OF
>> I WILL STAY WITH THIS LINE OFTHINKING.
THINKING. THIS GOES BACK TO WHAT THE CHAIR

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THIS GOES BACK TO WHAT THE CHAIRBROUGHT UP IN HIS ORIGINAL
BROUGHT UP IN HIS ORIGINAL COMMENTS.
COMMENTS. IN SO FAR AS ELECTRIFICATION OF
IN SO FAR AS ELECTRIFICATION OF THE FLEET CANNOT
THE FLEET CANNOT BE CONTEMPLATED.
BE CONTEMPLATED. WHEN THIS WAS ENACTED.
WHEN THIS WAS ENACTED. NUMBER OF EVs OR THE ZERO
NUMBER OF EVs OR THE ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES WERE FAR FEWER

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EMISSION VEHICLES WERE FAR FEWERTHAN NOW.
THAN NOW. THAT TREND LINE WILL CONTINUE TO
THAT TREND LINE WILL CONTINUE TOINCREASE.
INCREASE. WHEN WE THINK ABOUT WHAT WE ARE
WHEN WE THINK ABOUT WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO PROTECT OR EVEN
TRYING TO PROTECT OR EVEN ENCOURAGE OR MOVE AWAY FROM.
ENCOURAGE OR MOVE AWAY FROM. IN A WORLD WHERE EVs ARE THE
IN A WORLD WHERE EVs ARE THE NORM.
NORM. WHY ARE THESE METRICS STILL
WHY ARE THESE METRICS STILL IMPORTANT?
IMPORTANT? ARE YOU LOOKING HOW WE SPEND OUR
ARE YOU LOOKING HOW WE SPEND OURTIME HOW HEALTHY OUR LIFESTYLE

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TIME HOW HEALTHY OUR LIFESTYLE IS.
IS. >> YOU PICKED UP ON A COUPLE OF
>> YOU PICKED UP ON A COUPLE OF THEM.
THEM. GET TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY.
GET TO PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY. WIN OF THE CHALLENGES RIGHT NOW
WIN OF THE CHALLENGES RIGHT NOW WITH ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
WITH ELECTRIC VEHICLES. CURRENT ONES ON THE NETWORK.
CURRENT ONES ON THE NETWORK. GENERATE LESS EMISSIONS OUT OF
GENERATE LESS EMISSIONS OUT OF TAILPIPE PER MILE.
TAILPIPE PER MILE. THEY ARE HEAVIER THAN GAS POWER
THEY ARE HEAVIER THAN GAS POWER VEHICLE.
VEHICLE. IN TERMS OF COLLISIONS WITH

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IN TERMS OF COLLISIONS WITH PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLES MORE
PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLES MORE WEIGHT AND MORE ENERGY IN
WEIGHT AND MORE ENERGY IN COLLISION THE COLLISION SEVERITY
COLLISION THE COLLISION SEVERITYTHE WORSE.
THE WORSE. YOU MIGHT SOLVE THE GREENHOUSE
YOU MIGHT SOLVE THE GREENHOUSE GAS PROBLEM WITH ELECTRIC SAFETY
GAS PROBLEM WITH ELECTRIC SAFETYIS WORSE.
IS WORSE. WHEN WE LOOK AT PROXY VARIABLE

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WHEN WE LOOK AT PROXY VARIABLE IT IS NOT DESCRIBING ANYTHING
IT IS NOT DESCRIBING ANYTHING DIRECTLY.
DIRECTLY. PROXY FOR GREENHOUSE GASES,
PROXY FOR GREENHOUSE GASES, SAFETY, LAND USE EFFICIENCY.
SAFETY, LAND USE EFFICIENCY. IF YOU WERE ABLE TO SOLVE
IF YOU WERE ABLE TO SOLVE GREENHOUSE GAS IT WOULD GAUGE
GREENHOUSE GAS IT WOULD GAUGE SOMETHING LIKE SAFETY.
SOMETHING LIKE SAFETY. IT IS ALSO POSSIBLE THAT THERE
IT IS ALSO POSSIBLE THAT THERE ARE OTHER METRICS MORE
ARE OTHER METRICS MORE MEANINGFUL TO THE COMMUNITY.
MEANINGFUL TO THE COMMUNITY. I SHOULD POINT OUT CEQA DOESN'T

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I SHOULD POINT OUT CEQA DOESN'T PREVENT US FROM USING A HOST OF
PREVENT US FROM USING A HOST OF METRICS TO ANALYZE
METRICS TO ANALYZE TRANSPORTATION NETWORKS,
TRANSPORTATION NETWORKS, TRANSIT, SCOOTER, BICYCLE LENS,
TRANSIT, SCOOTER, BICYCLE LENS, SAFETY LENS.
SAFETY LENS. IT IS MANDATED FOR LAND USE
IT IS MANDATED FOR LAND USE PROJECTS.
PROJECTS. STATE HAS ELECTED TO USE IT FOR
STATE HAS ELECTED TO USE IT FOR TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.
TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS. EVERY LEAD AGENCY MAKES THAT FOR

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EVERY LEAD AGENCY MAKES THAT FORTHEMSELVES.
THEMSELVES. IF OTHER METRICS ARE SUITED TO
IF OTHER METRICS ARE SUITED TO YOUR COMMUNITY FOR
YOUR COMMUNITY FOR TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS YOU HAVE
TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS YOU HAVETHAT CHOICE.
THAT CHOICE. >> FOR THE SAFETY ASPECT, PROXY,
>> FOR THE SAFETY ASPECT, PROXY,IF YOU WILL.
IF YOU WILL. IS IT NOW A PROBABILITY
IS IT NOW A PROBABILITY EQUATION.
EQUATION. MORE VMT MORE LIKELIHOOD THIS
MORE VMT MORE LIKELIHOOD THIS COULD HAPPEN?
COULD HAPPEN? >> YES.
>> YES. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THIS FROM A
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THIS FROM APREDICTING FUTURE KIND OF THING,

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PREDICTING FUTURE KIND OF THING,YES, WE DO HAVE TO MAKE FUTURE
YES, WE DO HAVE TO MAKE FUTURE YEAR FORECASTS AS PART OF CEQA
YEAR FORECASTS AS PART OF CEQA ANALYSIS.
ANALYSIS. WE CAN RELY ON SOME RESEARCH
WE CAN RELY ON SOME RESEARCH RELATED TO WHAT WE CALL VMT PER
RELATED TO WHAT WE CALL VMT PER CAPITA HOW MUCH WE GENERATE AS
CAPITA HOW MUCH WE GENERATE AS INDIVIDUALS.
INDIVIDUALS. WHEN YOU FIND PLACES THAT
WHEN YOU FIND PLACES THAT GENERATE A LOT OF VMT PER CAPITA
GENERATE A LOT OF VMT PER CAPITAYOU TEND TO FIND A HIGHER LEVEL

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YOU TEND TO FIND A HIGHER LEVEL OF COLLISIONS, MORE SEVERE
OF COLLISIONS, MORE SEVERE COLLISIONS AND THIS IS ALL
COLLISIONS AND THIS IS ALL DOCUMENTED PRETTY WELL IN BOTH
DOCUMENTED PRETTY WELL IN BOTH THE FORMER OFFICE OF PLANNING
THE FORMER OFFICE OF PLANNING RESEARCH, GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND
RESEARCH, GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND CALTRANS.
CALTRANS. THEY HAVE THIS ON THEIR WEBSITES
THEY HAVE THIS ON THEIR WEBSITESIF YOU WANT TO READ MORE ABOUT
IF YOU WANT TO READ MORE ABOUT IT.
IT. RELATIONSHIPS WE HAVE TO BE
RELATIONSHIPS WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF.
MINDFUL OF. BASIC RELATIONSHIP HIGHER
BASIC RELATIONSHIP HIGHER PROBABILITY OF HIGHER COLLISIONS

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PROBABILITY OF HIGHER COLLISIONSAND MORE SEVERE COLLISIONS AS
AND MORE SEVERE COLLISIONS AS YOU JUST RELY MORE ON DRIVING.
YOU JUST RELY MORE ON DRIVING. THAT IS ELECTRIC OR GAS-POWERED.
THAT IS ELECTRIC OR GAS-POWERED.>> DIRECTOR DICKINSON.
>> DIRECTOR DICKINSON. >> THANKS, CHAIR.
>> THANKS, CHAIR. I WAS GOING TO SAY.
I WAS GOING TO SAY. I NEGLECTED TO SAY AND PROBABLY
I NEGLECTED TO SAY AND PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BECAUSE IT IS
SHOULD HAVE BECAUSE IT IS RELEVANT TO THE OTHER COMMENTS.
RELEVANT TO THE OTHER COMMENTS. AIR RESOURCES BOARD AND DIRECTOR

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AIR RESOURCES BOARD AND DIRECTORGUERRA AND THE CHAIR ARE
GUERRA AND THE CHAIR ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS.
FAMILIAR WITH THIS. HAS CONSISTENTLY MAINTAINED IF
HAS CONSISTENTLY MAINTAINED IF WE HAD ALL EV FLEET, WE STILL
WE HAD ALL EV FLEET, WE STILL HAVE TO REDUCE MILES TRAVELED IN
HAVE TO REDUCE MILES TRAVELED INORDER TO MEET REQUIREMENTS OR
ORDER TO MEET REQUIREMENTS OR GOALS WITH RESPECT TO REDUCTION
GOALS WITH RESPECT TO REDUCTION OF GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS OUT
OF GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS OUT OF TRANSPORTATION SECTOR.

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OF TRANSPORTATION SECTOR. I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO LEAVE
I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO LEAVE IMPRESSION IF WE HAD ALL
IMPRESSION IF WE HAD ALL ELECTRIC FLEET THAT WOULD SOLVE
ELECTRIC FLEET THAT WOULD SOLVE THE ISSUE.
THE ISSUE. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO MENTION
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO MENTIONTHAT.
THAT. THANKS.
THANKS. >> THAT IS WHY I CAN'T STAND THE
>> THAT IS WHY I CAN'T STAND THETERM ZERO EMISSIONS.
TERM ZERO EMISSIONS. YOU ARE GETTING ELECTRONS FROM
YOU ARE GETTING ELECTRONS FROM SOMEWHERE.
SOMEWHERE. UNLESS YOU ARE IN THE SMUD

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UNLESS YOU ARE IN THE SMUD SERVICE AREA IN 2031 WITH
SERVICE AREA IN 2031 WITH GUARANTEE THAT IS ALL RENEWABLE
GUARANTEE THAT IS ALL RENEWABLE PORTFOLIO, THOSE ELECTRONS COULD
PORTFOLIO, THOSE ELECTRONS COULDBECOMING FROM OUT OF STATED
BECOMING FROM OUT OF STATED COAL.
COAL. SOMETHING TO REMEMBER.
SOMETHING TO REMEMBER. THANK YOU AGAIN.
THANK YOU AGAIN. MR. BEWSEY.
MR. BEWSEY. >> REAL QUICKLY.
>> REAL QUICKLY. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE

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I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE THINGS WHERE I SEE A LOT OF
THINGS WHERE I SEE A LOT OF VALUE IN DOING THIS WORK.
VALUE IN DOING THIS WORK. I THINK THAT THE STATE OR REGION
I THINK THAT THE STATE OR REGIONCOULD TAKE A STRONGER ROLE.
COULD TAKE A STRONGER ROLE. WE HAVE MORE LOCAL CONTROL WHERE
WE HAVE MORE LOCAL CONTROL WHERETHIS GOES.
THIS GOES. BRINGING IT TO YOU MAKES A LOT
BRINGING IT TO YOU MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
OF SENSE. THERE ARE REAL APPLICABLE
THERE ARE REAL APPLICABLE EXAMPLES IN ALL JURISDICTIONS TO

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EXAMPLES IN ALL JURISDICTIONS TODO THIS.
DO THIS. EXAMPLE OF ELK GROVE PROPERTIES
EXAMPLE OF ELK GROVE PROPERTIES OF ROADWAYS TO WIDEN.
OF ROADWAYS TO WIDEN. THEY WANT LIGHT RAIN TO ELK
THEY WANT LIGHT RAIN TO ELK GROVE OR BRT TO ELK GROVE.
GROVE OR BRT TO ELK GROVE. I KNOW THAT JURISDICTION WELL
I KNOW THAT JURISDICTION WELL THEY HAVE THE LAGUNA CREEK TRAIL
THEY HAVE THE LAGUNA CREEK TRAILPROJECT.
PROJECT. CITRUS HEIGHTS YOU HAVE SUNRISE

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CITRUS HEIGHTS YOU HAVE SUNRISE TOMORROW WITH B RT COMING IN.
TOMORROW WITH B RT COMING IN. OPPORTUNITY THERE FOR SOME OF
OPPORTUNITY THERE FOR SOME OF THAT BMT MITIGATION WHEN
THAT BMT MITIGATION WHEN CALTRANS PLANS TO WIDEN 80.
CALTRANS PLANS TO WIDEN 80. THERE ARE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES
THERE ARE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIESHERE.
HERE. THE OTHER ONE THAT.
THE OTHER ONE THAT. THEY LOOK AT EXPANDING TOLLING

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THEY LOOK AT EXPANDING TOLLING THROUGHOUT THE REGION.
THROUGHOUT THE REGION. THEIR PLAN IN 20-25 YEARS TO ADD
THEIR PLAN IN 20-25 YEARS TO ADDTOWING TO ALL MAJOR FREEWAYS IN
TOWING TO ALL MAJOR FREEWAYS IN SACRAMENTO COUNTIES.
SACRAMENTO COUNTIES. THOSE REVENUES CAN RETURN BACK.
THOSE REVENUES CAN RETURN BACK. YELLOW 80 THEY ANTICIPATE

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YELLOW 80 THEY ANTICIPATE $12 MILLION ONLY TO VMT
$12 MILLION ONLY TO VMT MITIGATION.
MITIGATION. OVER 20 YEARS THAT IS A LOT OF
OVER 20 YEARS THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR THAT PROJECT.
MONEY FOR THAT PROJECT. WE ANTICIPATE THEY WILL BE ABLE
WE ANTICIPATE THEY WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
TO DO THAT. WHEN SACRAMENTO COUNTY WE HAVE
WHEN SACRAMENTO COUNTY WE HAVE -- WHERE IS MAGNITUDE MORE
-- WHERE IS MAGNITUDE MORE POTENTIAL EXPRESS LANES COMING
POTENTIAL EXPRESS LANES COMING TO SACRAMENTO COUNTY AT SOME
TO SACRAMENTO COUNTY AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE?
POINT IN THE FUTURE? THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO TAKE THOSE

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THIS IS A GOOD WAY TO TAKE THOSEREVENUES AND PUTTING THEM BACK
REVENUES AND PUTTING THEM BACK IN THE COMMUNITY, FUNDING
IN THE COMMUNITY, FUNDING TRANSIT, FUNDING WE HAVE A LOT
TRANSIT, FUNDING WE HAVE A LOT OF TRANSIT NEEDS ON THE
OF TRANSIT NEEDS ON THE OPERATIONAL SIDE.
OPERATIONAL SIDE. WHETHER THAT IS LIGHT RAIL OR
WHETHER THAT IS LIGHT RAIL OR BUS RAPID TRANSIT OR VALLEY RAIL

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BUS RAPID TRANSIT OR VALLEY RAILOR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION
OR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.
PROJECTS. TRANSPORTATION MANAGEMENT
TRANSPORTATION MANAGEMENT ASSOCIATIONS IN THE REGION.
ASSOCIATIONS IN THE REGION. I THINK THIS IS -- I AM TRYING
I THINK THIS IS -- I AM TRYING TO SAY GETTING IN FRONT OF THIS
TO SAY GETTING IN FRONT OF THIS IS SMART WAY TO CONTROL REVENUES
IS SMART WAY TO CONTROL REVENUESIN THE FUTURE.

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IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> I DON'T REPRESENT ELK GROVE.
>> I DON'T REPRESENT ELK GROVE. I KNOW THEY JUST DON'T WANT IT.
I KNOW THEY JUST DON'T WANT IT. THEY PLANNED FOR IT MORE THAN 20
THEY PLANNED FOR IT MORE THAN 20YEARS AGO.
YEARS AGO. I WOULD SAY THEY MORE THAN WANT
I WOULD SAY THEY MORE THAN WANT IT.
IT. >> THEY DON'T WANT IT?
>> THEY DON'T WANT IT? >> MORE THAN WANT IT.
>> MORE THAN WANT IT. PLANNED FOR IT.
PLANNED FOR IT. SPEAKING AS FORMER PROJECT

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SPEAKING AS FORMER PROJECT MANNER FOR LAGUNA RIDGE.
MANNER FOR LAGUNA RIDGE. VERY GOOD.
VERY GOOD. WE DO HAVE ONE PUBLIC SPEAKER.
WE DO HAVE ONE PUBLIC SPEAKER. MR. ALLISON.
MR. ALLISON. >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. DAN ALYSON REPRESENTING MYSELF.
DAN ALYSON REPRESENTING MYSELF. IT WAS GOOD PRESENTATION.
IT WAS GOOD PRESENTATION. I LOOK FORWARD TO ADDITIONAL

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I LOOK FORWARD TO ADDITIONAL ONES.
ONES. I THINK PROGRAM LEVEL MITIGATION
I THINK PROGRAM LEVEL MITIGATIONIS WELL WORTH EXPLORING.
IS WELL WORTH EXPLORING. IT IS A GREAT IDEA.
IT IS A GREAT IDEA. SOME PROJECTS HAVE SO MUCH VMT
SOME PROJECTS HAVE SO MUCH VMT IMPACT THEY SHOULD BE REJECTED
IMPACT THEY SHOULD BE REJECTED NO MATTER WHAT.
NO MATTER WHAT. THEY ARE BAD PROJECTS.
THEY ARE BAD PROJECTS. I ASK HOW WELL GEOGRAPHIC EQUITY

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I ASK HOW WELL GEOGRAPHIC EQUITYBE HANDLED.
BE HANDLED. UPPER INCOME COMMUNITY GETS BIKE
UPPER INCOME COMMUNITY GETS BIKEFACILITIES AND LOWER INCOME
FACILITIES AND LOWER INCOME COMMUNITY GETS MORE VMT WITH
COMMUNITY GETS MORE VMT WITH AUTO POLLUTION AND TRAFFIC
AUTO POLLUTION AND TRAFFIC VIOLENCE.
VIOLENCE. THE POINT VMT IS PROXY FOR
THE POINT VMT IS PROXY FOR SAFETY IS IMPORTANT.
SAFETY IS IMPORTANT. I REALIZE IT IS NOT PART OF 743.
I REALIZE IT IS NOT PART OF 743.IT IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.

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IT IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. EVERY VEHICLE ON THE READY
EVERY VEHICLE ON THE READY CREASES SAFETY FOR PEOPLE USING
CREASES SAFETY FOR PEOPLE USING OTHER MODES.
OTHER MODES. BANKS AND EXCHANGES SOUND
BANKS AND EXCHANGES SOUND SIMILAR TO CAP AND TRADE THAT
SIMILAR TO CAP AND TRADE THAT THE STATE HAS WHICH HAS PLUSES
THE STATE HAS WHICH HAS PLUSES AND MINUSES.
AND MINUSES. CRITICIZED AND ALSO EFFECTIVE.
CRITICIZED AND ALSO EFFECTIVE. I THINK IT IS INTERESTING TO SEE

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I THINK IT IS INTERESTING TO SEEWHAT RELATIONSHIP THERE IS.
WHAT RELATIONSHIP THERE IS. I HAVE DOUBTS THAT THE BANK WILL
I HAVE DOUBTS THAT THE BANK WILLEVER BE BIG ENOUGH TO COVER
EVER BE BIG ENOUGH TO COVER CALTRAN FREEWAY EXPANSIONS.
CALTRAN FREEWAY EXPANSIONS. TREMENDOUS VMT INDUCING
TREMENDOUS VMT INDUCING PROJECTS.
PROJECTS. I DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER PROJECTS
I DON'T KNOW ANY OTHER PROJECTS WE COULD DO COULD MAKE UP FOR

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WE COULD DO COULD MAKE UP FOR THAT EVEN WITH TOLLING.
THAT EVEN WITH TOLLING. >> ANY OTHERS SIGNED UP?
>> ANY OTHERS SIGNED UP? >> I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
>> I DON'T BELIEVE SO. >> DIRECTOR GUERRA.
>> DIRECTOR GUERRA. >> THANK YOU I WOULD BE REMISS
>> THANK YOU I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T HIGHLIGHT A CONCERN
IF I DIDN'T HIGHLIGHT A CONCERN I WAS WAITING TO ASK UNTIL THE
I WAS WAITING TO ASK UNTIL THE STUDY COMES BACK.
STUDY COMES BACK. I WANT IT OUT THERE.
I WANT IT OUT THERE. ONE CONCERN ABOUT BANKING THAT I

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ONE CONCERN ABOUT BANKING THAT IWOULD FEAR AND IT IS SIMILAR TO
WOULD FEAR AND IT IS SIMILAR TO THAT OF LOOKING AT FREEWAY, BUT
THAT OF LOOKING AT FREEWAY, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE A TRAVESTY
I THINK IT WOULD BE A TRAVESTY IF A BANK CREATED TO FUND THE
IF A BANK CREATED TO FUND THE BUS DRIVER SYSTEM THROUGH
BUS DRIVER SYSTEM THROUGH STOCKTON BOULEVARD AND ACTIVE
STOCKTON BOULEVARD AND ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS WOULD
TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS WOULD STILL RESULT IN WHAT WE HAVE

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STILL RESULT IN WHAT WE HAVE TODAY ON SOME INTERNAL AVENUES
TODAY ON SOME INTERNAL AVENUES WITH THREE LANES GOING EACH
WITH THREE LANES GOING EACH DIRECTION AS TRADE-OFF.
DIRECTION AS TRADE-OFF. I THINK THAT HAS LED TO THE
I THINK THAT HAS LED TO THE SEPARATION AND COMMUNITIES AND
SEPARATION AND COMMUNITIES AND NEIGHBORHOODS.
NEIGHBORHOODS. SAFETY ISSUES ON INTERSECTIONS.
SAFETY ISSUES ON INTERSECTIONS. I WANT FROM THE ONSET I THINK

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I WANT FROM THE ONSET I THINK THERE IS BENEFITS TO LOOKING AT
THERE IS BENEFITS TO LOOKING AT A BANK.
A BANK. NOT AT CONTINUING TO REPLICATE
NOT AT CONTINUING TO REPLICATE THE TERRIBLE TRANSPORTATION
THE TERRIBLE TRANSPORTATION DESIGNS THAT HAVE ONLY CONTINUED
DESIGNS THAT HAVE ONLY CONTINUEDTO CREATE PROBLEMS WE ARE TRYING
TO CREATE PROBLEMS WE ARE TRYINGTO TURN BACK TODAY.
TO TURN BACK TODAY. I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT. >> THANK YOU, DIRECTOR.

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>> THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. THIS IS INFORMATIONAL ITEM.
THIS IS INFORMATIONAL ITEM. REQUIRES NO ACTION ON OUR PART.
REQUIRES NO ACTION ON OUR PART. WITH THAT WE WILL GO TO THE NEXT
WITH THAT WE WILL GO TO THE NEXTITEM.
ITEM. >> ITEM 11.
>> ITEM 11. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S REPORT. >> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON COMMENTS
I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON COMMENTS FROM LAST BOARD MEETING
FROM LAST BOARD MEETING REGARDING STOCKTON BOULEVARD AND

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REGARDING STOCKTON BOULEVARD ANDCAPITAL CORRIDOR PROJECT.
CAPITAL CORRIDOR PROJECT. WE REACHED OUT TO BOARD MEMBERS
WE REACHED OUT TO BOARD MEMBERS WITH COMMENTS ABOUT THAT
WITH COMMENTS ABOUT THAT PROJECT.
PROJECT. WE TALKED WITH THE CITY OF
WE TALKED WITH THE CITY OF SACRAMENTO STAFF AS WELL
SACRAMENTO STAFF AS WELL REGARDING CURRENT STATUS AND
REGARDING CURRENT STATUS AND POTENTIAL NEXT STEPS.
POTENTIAL NEXT STEPS. WE TALKED TO CITY STAFF.
WE TALKED TO CITY STAFF. THEY ARE WILLING TO COME BACK TO

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THEY ARE WILLING TO COME BACK TOSTA FOR PRESENTATION IF THAT IS
STA FOR PRESENTATION IF THAT IS SOMETHING THE BOARD WANTS.
SOMETHING THE BOARD WANTS. THEY INITIATED CONSULTANT FOR
THEY INITIATED CONSULTANT FOR INITIAL DESIGN/ENVIRONMENTAL
INITIAL DESIGN/ENVIRONMENTAL WORK.
WORK. I THINK THEY ARE INTERESTED IN
I THINK THEY ARE INTERESTED IN GETTING THAT GOING A LITTLE
GETTING THAT GOING A LITTLE FARTHER.
FARTHER. IT MIGHT BE FALL/WINTER BEFORE
IT MIGHT BE FALL/WINTER BEFORE THEY WOULD WANT TO COME BACK.
THEY WOULD WANT TO COME BACK. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE BOARD IF THAT IS AN INTEREST FOR
BOARD IF THAT IS AN INTEREST FORTHAT TO COME BACK AS

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THAT TO COME BACK AS INFORMATIONAL PRESENTATION.
INFORMATIONAL PRESENTATION. >> DIRECTOR GUERRA.
>> DIRECTOR GUERRA. >> YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
>> YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I WOULD LIKE THAT TO COME BACK.
I WOULD LIKE THAT TO COME BACK. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REQUEST IF
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REQUEST IF WE HAD THE COUNTY DOT INVOLVED
WE HAD THE COUNTY DOT INVOLVED IN THIS.
IN THIS. I REMEMBER EARLY ON WE WERE
I REMEMBER EARLY ON WE WERE HAVING A NUMBER OF STAKEHOLDER
HAVING A NUMBER OF STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS WITH THE COUNTY DOT.

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MEETINGS WITH THE COUNTY DOT. BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH IS RIGID
BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH IS RIGID SPLIT MULTI JURISDICTION.
SPLIT MULTI JURISDICTION. IF WE COULD DO THAT.
IF WE COULD DO THAT. ALSO, UPDATE ON MOU BETWEEN
ALSO, UPDATE ON MOU BETWEEN THREE AGENCIES.
THREE AGENCIES. >> GOOD CALL.
>> GOOD CALL. DIRECTOR MAPLE.

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DIRECTOR MAPLE. >> I WANTED TO SHARE SAME
>> I WANTED TO SHARE SAME COMMENTS AS DIRECTOR GUERRA.
COMMENTS AS DIRECTOR GUERRA. WE WERE IN SACOG THIS MORNING
WE WERE IN SACOG THIS MORNING WITH SOME COLLEAGUES ON THIS
WITH SOME COLLEAGUES ON THIS BOARD.
BOARD. IT WAS THIS PROJECT THAT WAS
IT WAS THIS PROJECT THAT WAS DISCUSSED MULTI JURISDICTIONAL
DISCUSSED MULTI JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARIES.
BOUNDARIES. THERE IS EXCITEMENT AND ON OTHER
THERE IS EXCITEMENT AND ON OTHERBOARDS I AM ON.
BOARDS I AM ON. IT WOULD BE A TIMELY

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IT WOULD BE A TIMELY PRESENTATION TO THIS BOARD.
PRESENTATION TO THIS BOARD. >> DIRECTOR MAPLE I CAN SEND YOU
>> DIRECTOR MAPLE I CAN SEND YOUTHE E-MAIL FOR BACKGROUND.
THE E-MAIL FOR BACKGROUND. I WILL WORK WITH COUNTY, CITY
I WILL WORK WITH COUNTY, CITY STAFF TO MAKE SURE WE GET
STAFF TO MAKE SURE WE GET INFORMATIONAL ITEM ON THAT.
INFORMATIONAL ITEM ON THAT. SEPARATELY REQUESTED WITH
SEPARATELY REQUESTED WITH CAPITAL CORRIDOR STAFF TO
CAPITAL CORRIDOR STAFF TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT AND FUNDING

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DISCUSS THE PROJECT AND FUNDING GAP.
GAP. I PROVIDED BRIEFING TO DIRECTOR
I PROVIDED BRIEFING TO DIRECTOR DICKINSON ON THIS.
DICKINSON ON THIS. THAT PROJECT IS COMPLETED CEQA.
THAT PROJECT IS COMPLETED CEQA. ONCE N E.P.A. IS COMPLETED IT
ONCE N E.P.A. IS COMPLETED IT CAN PURSUE FUNDING.
CAN PURSUE FUNDING. IT IS IN HALFWAY BETWEEN CEQA
IT IS IN HALFWAY BETWEEN CEQA AND N E.P.A. NOW.

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AND N E.P.A. NOW. I ANTICIPATE MUCH MORE
I ANTICIPATE MUCH MORE COMPETITIVE WHEN FEDERAL FUNDING
COMPETITIVE WHEN FEDERAL FUNDINGIN THE FUTURE.
IN THE FUTURE. WITH THOSE TWO PROJECTS THOSE
WITH THOSE TWO PROJECTS THOSE ARE NOT MEASURE A PROJECTS.
ARE NOT MEASURE A PROJECTS. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE FOR THIS
I THINK IT MAKES SENSE FOR THIS BROADER QUESTION HOW TO SUPPORT
BROADER QUESTION HOW TO SUPPORT NON-MEASURE A.
NON-MEASURE A. BACK TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE WHAT

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BACK TO THE SUBCOMMITTEE WHAT SHOULD STA DO?
SHOULD STA DO? WE WILL REFER THAT BACK SO WE
WE WILL REFER THAT BACK SO WE HAVE SOME LEVEL OF UNDERSTANDING
HAVE SOME LEVEL OF UNDERSTANDINGHOW TO DEAL WITH THESE TYPES OF
HOW TO DEAL WITH THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE.
PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE. SB1 COMPETITIVE PROGRAMS.
SB1 COMPETITIVE PROGRAMS. CTC RELEASED STAFF
CTC RELEASED STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT LAST
RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT LAST FRIDAY.
FRIDAY. WE HAD FOUR APPLICATIONS
WE HAD FOUR APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED WITHIN THE SACRAMENTO

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SUBMITTED WITHIN THE SACRAMENTO AREA.
AREA. $127 MILLION WAS REQUESTED.
$127 MILLION WAS REQUESTED. NONE OF THOSE PROJECTS WERE
NONE OF THOSE PROJECTS WERE AWARDED WITH EXCEPTION OF I
AWARDED WITH EXCEPTION OF I STREET BRIDGE REPLACEMENT
STREET BRIDGE REPLACEMENT $25 MILLION.
$25 MILLION. A LOT OF REASONS WHY THE
A LOT OF REASONS WHY THE PROJECTS DID NOT GET AWARDED.
PROJECTS DID NOT GET AWARDED. WE WILL DO DEBRIEFS WITH C TC
WE WILL DO DEBRIEFS WITH C TC STAFF.

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STAFF. I REACHED OUT TO APPLICANTS.
I REACHED OUT TO APPLICANTS. PT CPA, THE CONNECTOR AND JAMES
PT CPA, THE CONNECTOR AND JAMES CORE LESS TO DISCUSS.
CORE LESS TO DISCUSS. THIS IS FIRST TIME WE HAVE DONE
THIS IS FIRST TIME WE HAVE DONE REGIONAL PRIORITIZATION TO TRY
REGIONAL PRIORITIZATION TO TRY TO MAKE SURE WE ARE MOVE
TO MAKE SURE WE ARE MOVE ANYTHING THE SAME DIRECTION.
ANYTHING THE SAME DIRECTION. PRIORITY ACROSS THE REGION.
PRIORITY ACROSS THE REGION. THE FACT NONE OF THE PROJECTS

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THE FACT NONE OF THE PROJECTS PRIORITIZED WERE FUNDED IS
PRIORITIZED WERE FUNDED IS CONCERNING.
CONCERNING. I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT.
I DON'T WANT TO REPEAT. MAKE IT BETTER.
MAKE IT BETTER. I AM HAPPY I STREET BRIDGE
I AM HAPPY I STREET BRIDGE PROJECT WAS FUNDED.
PROJECT WAS FUNDED. THAT IS A WIN FOR THE REGION.
THAT IS A WIN FOR THE REGION. I AM EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
I AM EXCITED ABOUT THAT. MORE WORK TO DO ON THAT.
MORE WORK TO DO ON THAT. >> DIRECTOR KENNEDY.
>> DIRECTOR KENNEDY. >> I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT

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>> I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.
YOU. AS THOUGHT IT WOULD BE
AS THOUGHT IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE IF OUR
INTERESTING TO SEE IF OUR FREEWAY EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE
FREEWAY EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM HAS SEEN UPTICK ON
PROGRAM HAS SEEN UPTICK ON HIGHWAY 50 SINCE THIS PROGRAM
HIGHWAY 50 SINCE THIS PROGRAM HAS BEEN GOING SINCE THIS
HAS BEEN GOING SINCE THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN GOING THROUGH.
PROJECT HAS BEEN GOING THROUGH. I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO ANSWER
I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO ANSWER THAT NOW.
THAT NOW. IT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING
IT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING THOUGHT.
THOUGHT. >> WE WILL TAKE THAT AS FOLLOW
>> WE WILL TAKE THAT AS FOLLOW UP ITEM.

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UP ITEM. I WILL SAY WE HAVE EXISTING
I WILL SAY WE HAVE EXISTING AGREEMENT WE EXTENDED ON CONSENT
AGREEMENT WE EXTENDED ON CONSENTWHICH ALLOWS US TO PROVIDE
WHICH ALLOWS US TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SERVICES DURING
ADDITIONAL SERVICES DURING CONSTRUCTION.
CONSTRUCTION. CALTRAN BEES IS USING THAT.
CALTRAN BEES IS USING THAT. THIS WEEKEND THERE IS WORK ON 80
THIS WEEKEND THERE IS WORK ON 80WITH CLOSURES WE PROVIDE
WITH CLOSURES WE PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SERVICE.
ADDITIONAL SERVICE. WE CAN GET YOU AN ANSWER ON
WE CAN GET YOU AN ANSWER ON THAT.
THAT. THANK YOU.

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THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. >> JUST REMINDER JULY NO BOARD
>> JUST REMINDER JULY NO BOARD MEETING.
MEETING. RECESS.
RECESS. IN AUGUST WE ANTICIPATE COMING
IN AUGUST WE ANTICIPATE COMING BACK WITH VMT MITIGATION PROGRAM
BACK WITH VMT MITIGATION PROGRAMOPTIONS FOR DISCUSSION.
OPTIONS FOR DISCUSSION. WE ANTICIPATE THAT EVERY YEAR
WE ANTICIPATE THAT EVERY YEAR SACOG GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS
SACOG GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS IDENTIFYING THE REGIONAL

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IDENTIFYING THE REGIONAL PRIORITIES FOR FEDERAL FUNDING.
PRIORITIES FOR FEDERAL FUNDING. THEY WILL RESTART THAT PROCESS
THEY WILL RESTART THAT PROCESS AGAIN.
AGAIN. WE ANTICIPATE POTENTIALLY ACTION
WE ANTICIPATE POTENTIALLY ACTIONIN AUGUST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT
IN AUGUST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT TO MAKE SURE PRIORITIES OF
TO MAKE SURE PRIORITIES OF SACRAMENTO ARE REFLECTED WITH
SACRAMENTO ARE REFLECTED WITH SACOG AND WHAT IS USED FOR
SACOG AND WHAT IS USED FOR CAP-TO-CAP.
CAP-TO-CAP. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. >> GREAT.
>> GREAT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR EXECUTIVE

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ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR?
DIRECTOR? OKAY.
OKAY. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. WE HAVE ONE MEMBER OF THE --
WE HAVE ONE MEMBER OF THE -- WAIT THAT IS NEXT ITEM.
WAIT THAT IS NEXT ITEM. WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE TO SPEAK ON
WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE TO SPEAK ONTHIS MATTER.
THIS MATTER. >> WE DO NOT.
>> WE DO NOT. >> NEXT ITEM.
>> NEXT ITEM. >> FINAL ITEM COMMENTS AND
>> FINAL ITEM COMMENTS AND REPORTS FROM AUTHORITY MEMBERS.
REPORTS FROM AUTHORITY MEMBERS. DIRECTOR TALAMANTES REPORT OUT?

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DIRECTOR TALAMANTES REPORT OUT? >> NOTHING EXCITING.
>> NOTHING EXCITING. WE DID A ROAD MAP AND TIMELINE
WE DID A ROAD MAP AND TIMELINE FOR 80 CAUSEWAY PROJECT TOLL
FOR 80 CAUSEWAY PROJECT TOLL EXEMPTIONS AND VIOLATIONS AND
EXEMPTIONS AND VIOLATIONS AND TOLL PROGRAM MANAGEMENT AND ON
TOLL PROGRAM MANAGEMENT AND ON CALL SERVICES.
CALL SERVICES. I GOT VOLUNTEERED TO BE ON THE

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I GOT VOLUNTEERED TO BE ON THE COMMITTEE TO INTERVIEW PEOPLE
COMMITTEE TO INTERVIEW PEOPLE THAT APPLY.
THAT APPLY. >> DIRECTOR GUERRA ANYTHING TO
>> DIRECTOR GUERRA ANYTHING TO REPORT ON NEW TRANSPORTATION
REPORT ON NEW TRANSPORTATION FUNDING SUBCOMMITTEE?
FUNDING SUBCOMMITTEE? >> WE HAD FIRST MEETING TODAY
>> WE HAD FIRST MEETING TODAY WITH THE CHAIR OF THE
WITH THE CHAIR OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE FROM REGIONAL
SUBCOMMITTEE FROM REGIONAL TRANSIT.
TRANSIT. SITTING NEXT TO ME BOARD MEMBER
SITTING NEXT TO ME BOARD MEMBER MAPLE HERE.
MAPLE HERE. WE DISCUSSED SOME INFORMATION

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WE DISCUSSED SOME INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THE MULTIPLE AGENCIES
ABOUT HOW THE MULTIPLE AGENCIES CAN WORK TOGETHER AND WILL BE
CAN WORK TOGETHER AND WILL BE WORKING TOGETHER.
WORKING TOGETHER. ALSO I WANT TO THANK OUR EARLY
ALSO I WANT TO THANK OUR EARLY CONVERSATION WITH SUBCOMMITTEE
CONVERSATION WITH SUBCOMMITTEE TO DIRECT OUR STAFF KEVIN BEWSEY
TO DIRECT OUR STAFF KEVIN BEWSEYAND HIS TEAM TO COMMUNICATE WITH
AND HIS TEAM TO COMMUNICATE WITHRESPECTIVE CITY MANAGERS AND DOT
RESPECTIVE CITY MANAGERS AND DOTDIRECTORS TO COMMUNICATE WITH

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DIRECTORS TO COMMUNICATE WITH CONSTITUENTS AND NEXT STEPS.
CONSTITUENTS AND NEXT STEPS. >> MR. HUME, ANYTHING TO REPORT
>> MR. HUME, ANYTHING TO REPORT OUT ON THE -- WE HAVE TO FIND A
OUT ON THE -- WE HAVE TO FIND A BETTER NAME.
BETTER NAME. ROLE IN THE REGION SUBCOMMITTEE.
ROLE IN THE REGION SUBCOMMITTEE.>> WORKING ON A NEW NAME.
>> WORKING ON A NEW NAME. ALL RIGHT.

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ALL RIGHT. MR. ALLISON.
MR. ALLISON. >> I WASN'T SURE WHAT WOULD COME
>> I WASN'T SURE WHAT WOULD COMEFROM THE SUB COMMITTEES.
FROM THE SUB COMMITTEES. I AM GLAD STA IS EXPLORING
I AM GLAD STA IS EXPLORING FUNDING AND THE ROLE OF STA IN
FUNDING AND THE ROLE OF STA IN THE REGION.
THE REGION. THANK YOU.

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THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU. VERY GOOD.
VERY GOOD. ANY FURTHER COMMENTS FROM?
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS FROM? DIRECTOR MAPLE.
DIRECTOR MAPLE. >> ON THAT I W WANT TO THANK
>> ON THAT I W WANT TO THANK DR. GUERRA I THANK YOU FOR
DR. GUERRA I THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS BETTER IF IT COMES

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MAKING THIS BETTER IF IT COMES TO FRUITION.
TO FRUITION. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. >> I BELIEVE THAT COMPLETES OUR
>> I BELIEVE THAT COMPLETES OUR AGENDA.
AGENDA. >> YOU ARE CORRECT.
>> YOU ARE CORRECT. >> NO FURTHER BUSINESS BEFORE
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