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May 20, 2025 75 mins
There’s something strangely reassuring about knowing people were wrestling with the similar issues we struggle with over 2,000 years ago — even if they wore togas and wrote with a chisel.
 
Donald Robertson is a cognitive-behavioral psychotherapist, acclaimed author of How to Think Like a Roman Emperor, and one of the world’s leading voices on Stoicism. He’s also the founder of the Plato’s Academy Centre in Athens, and a founding member of the Modern Stoicism nonprofit.
 
On this pod, we talk about the wisdom literature and how it can help with emotional distress; specifically, the idea of Stoics as ancient psychotherapists. Donald explains how Stoicism wasn’t just a philosophy of life, but also a clear system of psychotherapy in ancient Greek and Roman thought.
 
Some episode highlights:
  • How shifting definitions shape our understanding of mental illness
  • On the paradox of growth through adversity
  • Struggle and transformation
  • Experiential wisdom
  • Fortune and the bitch goddess of success
  • Stoicism as an ancient psychotherapy
  • The philosophical roots of cognitive therapy
  • On anger, and the art of self-mastery (Seneca, Galen)
  • On Worry and rumination
  • Marcus Aurelius 
  • Stoicism’s broader vision
  • On the “view from above” and the liberation of perspective
  • How time expansion mitigates worry
  • The complex relationship of thoughts and emotions
  • The core proposition of both Stoicism and CBT
  • How complaining signals resistance to reality
  • Acceptance and the dichotomy of control
  • How to reconnect with what’s essential in a noisy world
 
This isn’t motivational fluff; it’s a toolkit for anyone who’s ever gotten tangled in their own head.
 
 
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