May 16, 2025 • 28 mins
A customer who faked a hate crime to get a refund, a dating horror story, and politics at the... funeral home? I unpack your craziest woke horror stories and personal experiences in this Friday episode of the Brad vs Everyone podcast.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thank racism, woke dating, horror stories, and politics at the
funeral home. We're going to unpack the craziest stories that
you guys sent in in this Friday episode of The
Brad Versus Everyone podcast, my daily show where we take
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on the craziest ideas for guys the Internet, our politics,
and our media, all from an independent perspective. On Fridays,
I take voice notes from you guys to hear about
your woke her stories, your personal scenarios and situations, and
give you my take on the d lulu you've encountered
in real life. The link to send a voice note
is in the description. Now let's listen to the first
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one we got up for today.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Hi Brad, my name is Carly and I recently got
called racist overdog hair. For context, I'm a dog groomer
and I had to do a puppies first haircut and
the lady did not like the haircut and did not
want to know why it got the haircut it got,
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and instead of you know, being civil, she started threatening us,
calling us names, and after that demanded a refund, and
when we said no, she said it's because she's black
and she would not leave our small business wouldn't let
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us continue running it until she got her refund, so
we had to call the cops. The boss is outsick,
recovering from surgery. The manager already left for the day,
she also was sick, and instead of just you know,
taking our boss's phone number and talking to her and
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working something out, she had to threaten us and like
scare us to the point we had to call the police.
And now she's slandering us on the internet and saying
that we're racist, and I would like your input on that.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Wow, what a wild story. I never knew people took
their dog's haircuts so seriously. But I mean, on every level,
this is kind of an interesting scenario to unpack. Like,
first and foremost, I'm not sure you can demand a
refund for a service once you've already received the service.
You're not really entitled to a refund at that point
if it wasn't good, if you're not happy with it,
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like don't come back, don't purchase it again. But I
would never say I went to the place where I
get my haircut and I didn't like the haircut. I
wouldn't be like, I expect to be refunded for this haircut.
Because I'm not happy with how it came out. Well, no,
like they sold me a haircut, I got it and
I'm not happy with it. But shouldn't get a free
haircut just necessarily because I'm not happy with how it
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turned out. You just go somewhere else next time. And
I'm sorry I had to deal with somebody throwing a
public scene in a meltdown like this, But honestly, good
and for y'all for calling the cops, because some people
would be so afraid of getting canceled they're called the
racist or whatever, that they wouldn't even call the cops
in this situation. But we need to normalize actually calling
the cops when it's appropriate. Now, don't call them when
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it's not appropriate. They get called a lot of times needlessly,
but sometimes the police do need to be called. And
when someone's threatening you and trespassing on your property, their
race is irrelevant, the police should be called at that
point because that's not acceptable social behavior. You can't get
away with that, or at least you sure shouldn't be
able to. Now what I would say for this business
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and honestly for any small business in the era of
victimhood and victim Olympics and people claiming false narratives, and
also in the era when everyone's chasing clout and everyone
wants to go viral and everyone's recording out of context
snippets I would actually have. I would recommend that you
have cameras set up to record audio and video of
your place of business, so that in a situation like
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this you could just release the full tape publicly and
show that you weren't raised this person was committing a
crime and was not being reasonable and was threatening you,
or whatever the details may be, and you would actually
have the receipts. If you don't have that, I would
just put out a very clear statement that says, if
you think that it's actually getting enough traction, ignoring it
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might be better if it's not getting much traction, but
if there's actually a lot of traction, I just put
out a very clear statement that says, you know, we
welcome customers of all backgrounds. We never discriminate against anyone. However,
threatening our staff is not okay, and the police were
called as a result of that. I think people probably
won't hold it against you, but I would recommend in
the future having tape and having film of your place
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of business, so that in the case that a crime
does happen, or that somebody makes an allegation that isn't true,
you have the receipts to back it up. But sorry,
this happened. And what a wild world we live in
today where everyone's trying to play the victim all the
time to get free stuff that is just never going
to fly in my book. What do you guys think?
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Have you ever had a similar situation like this? Let
me know in the comments, and do hit that leg
button and make sure subscribed if you aren't yet. Up next,
we've got a dating horror story that interestingly involves trans politics,
but no actual trans people. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Hi, Brad, I'm Darcy, and I have a story about
how the whole gender ideology nonsense is starting to affect
absolutely everybody, including people who really want nothing to do
with it. So I was on a dating app and
on my profile I put that I'm a woman who's
interested in men, and I'm not the most feminine woman
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in the world, but I'm definitely not masculine and have
never tried to be. I was talking to this guy
and it seemed like things were going well So we
were trying to find a time to meet each other
and skuy sends me a message and goes, before we meet,
I just want to double check that you're actually a woman.
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And I was like, excuse me, oh, and he goes yeah,
I mean, you know, it's it's crazy out there. You
never can tell. And I was like, okay, I can
understand and sympathize with that sentiment to an extent, but no,
I'm a woman. And this guy goes, okay, well, there
were just some things about you that made me think
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you might be a man. Oh me to tell you then,
Oh no, I don't want you to send me a
list of things you thought about me that maybe look
like a dude. Like what woman wants to hear that? Anyway,
I just thought that was an insane thing to say
to someone that you'd never even met. And I needless
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to say, things do not work out with him. Dating
is rough out there right now.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Bro fumbled so bad on this one because it sounds
like he actually had an inn with a wonderful woman
with excellent taste in podcasts and YouTube content. So he
messed up one for himself here. And I was with
him in the first half probably. I don't know if
it's necessarily artful to ask about it in this way,
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but like, I don't know. I mean, you wouldn't want
if that's not something you're interested in, if you're not,
you know, open to dating a trans woman, which if
you are, all, by all means power to you. I'm
totally supportive of However, people want to love and date
and live their lives. But like, if you're a typical
heterosexual man, you wouldn't be interested in dating a trans
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woman who was born biologically male. So I think it's
reasonable for you to want to figure that out. I'm
not sure coming out and asking it is the best
way to go about it, but like, hey, that part
wasn't so bad, the part where you say no, And
it sounds like you weren't even put off by that.
So he says, he asks you say no, you know
I'm born a woman, and then he says, do you
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want me to tell you why I thought you were trans? Sir?
You just, oh my gosh, stepped in Quicksand I don't
know why you thought to type that out. I don't
know how you looked at that message and thought she's
gonna love this. What I think your response is totally reasonable.
He sounds like not the brightest bulb for thinking that
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would go over well with telling a woman who you
don't even know, all this unsolicited feedback about how she's
comes off as masculine in whatever way, which, by the way,
is totally fine. Tomboys, whatever you want to call it is,
that's cool. It's a natural part of human expression. And
if it's not for him, that's okay. But he doesn't
need to, like critically let you know how you could
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be more feminine in his eyes. It's the audacity for me, sir.
You haven't even bought her a drink yet, she did
not ask for feedback. The complaints department is closed, at
least to you, So I don't blame you at all
for giving him the cold shoulder after that one. And
look to the men out there that he are sexual men.
I sympathize with you a little bit about this general concern,
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not wanting to end up in a situation where maybe
you encounter a surprise package. But whatever you do, do
not go about it like this. Up next, we've got
another story of personal relationships praying over politics, but this
one actually has a happy end. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Hi, my name is Lee, and I don't have time
to tell the full story, but essentially from my opinions
about why I didn't get vaccinated and which were very
well thought out at the time, and I'm very glad
I chose not to do that, and the fact that
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I was like not happy that Trump almost got assassinated
the first time, and like I'm an independent, I wasn't
like a Trump supporter. I'm not a Trump supporter, But
just from those two things, my one of my closest
friends like kind of lost it and told me that
they were worried I was a white supremacist. And it's like,
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I knew people were at this point, but it was
a whole different thing to have it in my face
with someone who knows me deeply for years and loves
me and considers me one of their closest confidants. It
was a really crazy experience. It was really upsetting and
sad to see how far things have gone, particularly with
the vaccine thing. It's like, how did we get from
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like a medical thing to white supremacy. Doesn't make sense
to me. I have a nursing background, I'm an herbalist, like,
so you know, I'm not just somebody talking out there.
But but the cool thing is we actually ended up
working through it and now we're having really beautiful conversations.
Their extreme response actually kind of woke them up to like, whoa,
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Like what's happening with me? So it has a happy ending.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
This made me so happy to get this message because
I've heard from so many of you guys who've had
relationships that have been cut off or given the cold
shoulder or heartbreak or trauma from family, like fraying family
relationships because of politics and because of this kind of
you know, oversimplified, closed minded worldview like oh you don't
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support getting the COVID vacs, you must be a white supremacist.
Or you don't want Trump assassinated, Oh you must be
in the KKK. Like this kind of thing that's obviously
absurd and hysterical has infected a lot of people who,
you know, they're not all bad humans. They may be
people who with whom you've had loving relationships and have
wonderful qualities and have done excellent things in their lives,
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but they've been infected by this kind of hysteria. I
blame in large part a lot of social media echo
chambers and mainstream media coverage and these kinds of things,
But we actually have an example here of somebody who
was like that and afraid of relationship, but then actually
realized and grew and now they're overcoming it. And that
makes me so happy because hopefully that gives you guys
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out there who are having that kind of experience some
hope that forever is a long time and just because
somebody's cut you off because of politics, a family member,
a loved one, a friend, doesn't mean that it's going
to be that forever. And don't give up, don't become hopeless,
and just keep having honest conversations and try to keep
doors open to people even when they close them. You
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just make sure that you know, well, I'm sorry you
feel that way, but I'm always here to talk and
I would love to reconnect with you when you're in
a place where you're comfortable discussing things again. And if
you do that, then at least you know when you
go to sleep at night that you did all you
could to preserve this relationship and that you have left
a crack in the door for them to hopefully see
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the light and come back up next. This message really
through me for a loop. Somebody called in who has
a roommate who identifies as a sovereign citizen. Let's take
a listen to this message.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Hi, Brad, my name is Logan, and I just want
to say I've been watching your show for about two
years now, and with everything that you've gone over, I've
seen some insane things recently, from being called a fascist
fantasizer for playing the video game Held to which is
hilarious even because it's satirizing, you know, all that like
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Starship Troopers kind of vibe. But I've also have an
interesting living condition where I live with a person that
identifies as a sovereign citizen. God forbid if you ever
meet one. They're one of the most intolerant people I've
ever met because they believe that the Constitution is the
only law of the land. The tenth Amendment for people
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to make laws the state's government salves does not exist.
But they just have these insane viewpoints. And he keeps
lecturing me like, you don't need a driver's license.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
You don't need a license plate, blah blah blah blah blah,
talking points like that I don't have to pay taxes,
you know, stuff like that, and I just want to
get your thoughts on it, because I have to deal
with this every single day, and he just goes on
and on and on says I can see the garden
for ten million dollars for this, But I want to
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hear your thoughts.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Love your show, keep it up.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
You're amazing. So I have heard about sovereign citizens before,
and it is a very interesting group. I've listened to
some deep dive podcasts about it, but I can't say
I'm an expert in what they believe or you know,
the lore of it all. So I won't make too
many claims about it, but I will say I put
it in it's kind of like maybe like a niche
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libertarian version of Woke, where I come back to the
same theme. De Lulu is not a slulu. And maybe
you think you shouldn't need a driver's license. I'm personally
call me Gary Johnson, but I'm okay with needing maybe
a basic minimum requirement before you can hit the road.
But maybe you think no driver's license should be necessary.
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Zero taxation, All taxes are theft. Okay, you can think that,
but that is not in fact the law of the land,
and if you try to just do that anyway, you're
gonna catch a case. I mean, I've seen these videos
where these sovereign citizens go into court and like the
judges arguing with them, and they're like, well, actually, I
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am the sovereign citizen the tenth Amendment this, and the
judge's like, yeah, don't care, bailiff, take them to jail.
And so it's not going to work out for them.
I mean, if they have to learn it the hard way,
that's unfortunate, but that's their choice. They're adults. I think
what you all you can do is, if you want
to try to reach this person, you could show him
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some of these videos of sovereign citizens trying these exact arguments.
It literally never works from the videos I've seen. Never
has the judge said, yes, sir, you're right, the laws
of this court don't apply to you. Here, take your
pocket constitution and go home, and here's your ten million
dollars that we owe you. Like, it's not a thing,
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it's not gonna happen. You could try to reach him
and show him these videos where they try this stuff
and it never works for them. But also, honest, it's
not your job to cure his delulu. If he wants
to live in his own little fantasy world and think
all this stuff, I guess just let him. But if
it's bothering you, or if he's harassing you about it,
then it's not even any more about the sovereign citizen thing.
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It's just about boundaries. You should just say to him, listen,
you're totally entitled to your beliefs. I don't believe this.
I don't really want to talk about it, so I'm
asking you to maybe just not bring that up to
me and we can talk about other stuff together. And
then if you make that perfectly reasonable request and he
doesn't respect your basic boundaries, then that has nothing to
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do with a sovereign citizen. That's just not being a
good roommate or a good friend. And then it's probably
time to look on Craigslist or Zillow. Not because he's
a sovereign citizen, although I still think that's kind of wild,
but because he's not being a good housemate or friend
at that point, and no matter what your beliefs are,
that's not okay. Up next, this one truly horrified me.
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But we had a voice note from somebody whose family
member politicized their personal tragedy. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 7 (17:09):
Okay, the worst thing anybody's ever said to me, that's
a little bit politically charged. I unfortunately lost my first baby,
my husband and I via miscarriage. It was extremely traumatic
and horrible. I had to have a DNC procedure and yeah,
just very much wanted pregnancy. Not ideal situation.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Horrible.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
But during all of this, I have a cousin who
is not politically active at all. She's actually very much
like willfully ignorant to it all.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
She doesn't care.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
But her parents are pretty liberal, so she's kind of
always has them in her ear, I think, and whether
she wanted to or not, she just hears things and
picks things up on you know, her parents or TikTok.
I don't. I don't really know. But while I was
going through all of this, she said to me, because
I had to schedule my surgery and stuff, and she
knew about that, and she said, well, good thing you're
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going through this when Trump's not a because you couldn't
do it and you'd probably die, or if you did
do it, you'd be in jail. So if that's my story,
obviously that's not the case, regardless of the abortion debate.
Sorry to bring up the abortion debate. I'm sure that
you're over that now that the election's over, But yeah,
that's my story. Yeah, that one hurt. I'm not gonna lie,
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And that was crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
H First, I'm tearing up because just my heart breaks
for you and your husband, and I'm so sorry. I
can't imagine what that must be like and the pain
of going through that. I have a couple of close
friends who've had similar issues, and it is an absolute tragedy.
We're going to totally set aside, like the politics of
abortion and all that, just for this conversation. What a
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wildly inappropriate and insensitive thing to say. Now, maybe your
cousin is a good person who had good intentions and
it's just kind of like socially a bull in a
china shop and didn't realize how insensitive and insane that was.
But I guess like a good rule of thumb in
life is probably don't politicize people's tragedies, their personal tragedies,
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like keep your political takes out of it. And of
course you're correct that, I mean, the nuances of some
of these pro life laws being written poorly at the
state level. I mean, people have reported on and talked
about that, and they cause problems with like miscarriages or
ectopic pregnancies or that sort of thing. But it's not
the case that like miscarriage is now criminalized under Trump.
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None of that changed because of the election. That's almost
exclusively at the state level, regardless, and just setting aside
all of that, if somebody is telling you or you
have learned about a personal loss in their life, the
last thing you should do, if you love and care
about that person is somehow invoke politics. I don't know,
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maybe give your cousin the benefit of the doubt, but
it would be perfectly fair for you to say to
your listen, you said this. It was really inappropriate and
it really hurt me, and I think you should apologize,
and you should keep in mind to not do that
in the future. When people are sharing their tragic experiences
with you. You would be entirely within your rights to
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ask that of your family member. And if your cousin
loves you and values your relationship, they would absolutely I
think if your cousin is in the category of well
intentioned but just kind of socially inept or a little
brainwashed that I think that your cousin would have the
response of, oh my god, I'm so sorry, what a
stupid thing to say. I'm really apologize. And if somehow
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your cousin got mad at you or wasn't willing to apologize,
then look, that tells you a lot about the caliber
and quality of that relationship and whether it's worth investing
in in the future. But I'm so sorry for your loss.
I'm very sorry for your cousin's oafish remarks. And guys,
let's not be like that. Okay, let's just not up
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next what happens when people bring up politics at the
funeral home. We got an interesting voice note about exactly
that question.
Speaker 8 (21:08):
I've read my names Anna, and I work at a
funeral home, and so I kind of wanted to get
your opinion on something a niche. So I meet with
a lot of families. I talk with a lot of families.
I'm always like either doing lots of paperwork or working
directly with the family. And I you know, I voted
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for Trump, but I'm not like mega crazy. I just
didn't want I'm just not like super left leaning right.
And so there are people who will come in and
they're grieving, right, so they don't really know what else
to talk about. And so when grieving families come in
and they want to talk about anything else but you know,
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their loved one, sometimes they'll bring up politics and they'll
start going on and on and on. And I mean,
in the state where I'm at, most people it's we're
a red state. A lot of the people who come
in that I talk to will just go on and
on and they'll start asking me questions like, well, you know,
what do you think about this?
Speaker 7 (22:08):
You know?
Speaker 8 (22:09):
And I try to do my best to give back
on topic about their loved one, But I don't know.
I don't know when I disagree with families, really, when
I have different political views, what'sn't the best way for
me to communicate with them so that we don't like
lose their business, you know?
Speaker 1 (22:22):
So thank you for telling me about this experience. This
is a really interesting voice note kind of mixed thoughts
because normally, like my general rule is, I think you
should stick up for your beliefs and vocalize them and
not be afraid of hurting someone's feelings. If you're just
calmly and respectfully stating the truth. This is a situation
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where I might have a little bit of a different approach.
Though you're at work. You're in a professional capacity that
is not political, so it wouldn't necessarily be appropriate for
you to bring up politics at work. You're in a
little bit of a tricky situation that these families are
perhaps unknowingly putting you in by them bringing it up.
But I guess listen, they are in the middle of
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personal family tragedy, and for you to like debate them
or challenge them just feels wrong to me. It feels insensitive,
And also, I mean, I'm not really sure what would
be accomplished by it. I doubt they're in the logical
state of mind to like reevaluate their positions or be
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convinced of anything. So what I would say is that
it might be best to just listen, just let them
say whatever they want, and not along and just affirm
their delulu. I usually don't recommend affirming delulu, but if
they're talking about like Handmaid's Tale project twenty twenty five,
I would just NodD along and say, oh, okay, tell
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me more about how you feel. Let them talk. They
just want to be distracted from the fact that they're
burying their loved one. And as much as I might
disagree with them politically, I can understand that human impulse,
you know, And if they specifically have you for your opinion,
I would just say, you know, I'm not really allowed
to talk about my political opinions at work, but I'm
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happy to listen and just leave it at that. I
doubt they'll really insist or pry, but this would, I
would say, probably be one of those rare situations where
speaking out about your beliefs or challenging people on the
things they say that are wrong might not be appropriate
or tactful. So in this case, maybe bite your tongue
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and you can always send in a voice note telling
me if they say something particularly de Lulu Up next,
we've got a voicemail from somebody who's white liberal friends
won't stop being racist to them. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
They bribe.
Speaker 9 (24:44):
My name is John, I'm from Jersey, I'm Hispanic. The
reason I bring that up is because some of my
more liberal friends have started referring to me as LATINX,
and that's really been pissing me off. One of them
had the audacity to ask if I married my wife
(25:06):
for the prestige of marrying a white woman. Oh so yeah,
I just wanted to hear your thoughts on that level
of insanity.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Oh it is funny to me because listen, I grew
up in the suburbs of Rhode Island and Massachusetts, which
are blue states, and in the suburbs where people tend
to be more affluent, you have a lot of these
nominally liberal, center left people who think they're super woke,
but they're really not. And these people sound like they
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fall into that category. To call you LATINX is literally
woke colonization of actual Hispanic language and culture where words
are gendered Latino or Latina and there is no gender
neutral But these wok white people are trying to make
something up, invent something fake, and insert it into your
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language because they think that your culture is like problematic
because it doesn't include non binary Hispanic baristas or something.
It's absurd. And I guess there's two ways to go
about it. One is like the trollish way, where you
could tell them, actually, that's a microaggression when you say LATINX,
and you could play their game. Or you could get
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real with them and say Listen, guys, I know you're
trying to be inclusive or whatever, but Latinos don't believe
in this. You could even show them the polling where
I don't have it in front of me, but like
ninety five percent of Latinos say they've never heard of LATINX,
let alone do they use it. So you could troll
them back, or you could get real with them, but
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it's actually ridiculous and you shouldn't have to accept that
from friends. In the same way, the comment about your
wife is like really inappropriate, and you would be well
within your rights to be like, no, I don't know
what you're talking about. I married my wife because I
love her and I don't think about race all the
time like this, because I'm a normal person. You'd be
well within your rights and listen. Maybe they're lovely people
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in a lot of ways, but they might need a
little bit of a reality check or an honest talking
to and maybe they're open to it. And if they're not,
then they might be a little too close minded for
you to be friends with when you're a free thinking,
intelligent individual with great taste in podcasts. What do you
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guys think about that one? Especially my LATINX listeners. Is
it LATINX or is it latins? Either way sounds incredibly
stupid and fake to me. What do you guys think
of all this? Which one of these voicemails was your favorite?
Please do let me know in the comments. Do hit
that button make sure subscribed if you aren't yet, remember
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you can send in voice notes with your wo chorus
stories or your crazy personal situations at the link in
the description and we'll talk again real soon.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Yeah,
Thank racism, woke dating, horror stories, and politics at the
funeral home. We're going to unpack the craziest stories that
you guys sent in in this Friday episode of The
Brad Versus Everyone podcast, my daily show where we take
(00:21):
on the craziest ideas for guys the Internet, our politics,
and our media, all from an independent perspective. On Fridays,
I take voice notes from you guys to hear about
your woke her stories, your personal scenarios and situations, and
give you my take on the d lulu you've encountered
in real life. The link to send a voice note
is in the description. Now let's listen to the first
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one we got up for today.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Hi Brad, my name is Carly and I recently got
called racist overdog hair. For context, I'm a dog groomer
and I had to do a puppies first haircut and
the lady did not like the haircut and did not
want to know why it got the haircut it got,
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and instead of you know, being civil, she started threatening us,
calling us names, and after that demanded a refund, and
when we said no, she said it's because she's black
and she would not leave our small business wouldn't let
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us continue running it until she got her refund, so
we had to call the cops. The boss is outsick,
recovering from surgery. The manager already left for the day,
she also was sick, and instead of just you know,
taking our boss's phone number and talking to her and
(01:50):
working something out, she had to threaten us and like
scare us to the point we had to call the police.
And now she's slandering us on the internet and saying
that we're racist, and I would like your input on that.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Wow, what a wild story. I never knew people took
their dog's haircuts so seriously. But I mean, on every level,
this is kind of an interesting scenario to unpack. Like,
first and foremost, I'm not sure you can demand a
refund for a service once you've already received the service.
You're not really entitled to a refund at that point
if it wasn't good, if you're not happy with it,
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like don't come back, don't purchase it again. But I
would never say I went to the place where I
get my haircut and I didn't like the haircut. I
wouldn't be like, I expect to be refunded for this haircut.
Because I'm not happy with how it came out. Well, no,
like they sold me a haircut, I got it and
I'm not happy with it. But shouldn't get a free
haircut just necessarily because I'm not happy with how it
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turned out. You just go somewhere else next time. And
I'm sorry I had to deal with somebody throwing a
public scene in a meltdown like this, But honestly, good
and for y'all for calling the cops, because some people
would be so afraid of getting canceled they're called the
racist or whatever, that they wouldn't even call the cops
in this situation. But we need to normalize actually calling
the cops when it's appropriate. Now, don't call them when
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it's not appropriate. They get called a lot of times needlessly,
but sometimes the police do need to be called. And
when someone's threatening you and trespassing on your property, their
race is irrelevant, the police should be called at that
point because that's not acceptable social behavior. You can't get
away with that, or at least you sure shouldn't be
able to. Now what I would say for this business
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and honestly for any small business in the era of
victimhood and victim Olympics and people claiming false narratives, and
also in the era when everyone's chasing clout and everyone
wants to go viral and everyone's recording out of context
snippets I would actually have. I would recommend that you
have cameras set up to record audio and video of
your place of business, so that in a situation like
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this you could just release the full tape publicly and
show that you weren't raised this person was committing a
crime and was not being reasonable and was threatening you,
or whatever the details may be, and you would actually
have the receipts. If you don't have that, I would
just put out a very clear statement that says, if
you think that it's actually getting enough traction, ignoring it
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might be better if it's not getting much traction, but
if there's actually a lot of traction, I just put
out a very clear statement that says, you know, we
welcome customers of all backgrounds. We never discriminate against anyone. However,
threatening our staff is not okay, and the police were
called as a result of that. I think people probably
won't hold it against you, but I would recommend in
the future having tape and having film of your place
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of business, so that in the case that a crime
does happen, or that somebody makes an allegation that isn't true,
you have the receipts to back it up. But sorry,
this happened. And what a wild world we live in
today where everyone's trying to play the victim all the
time to get free stuff that is just never going
to fly in my book. What do you guys think?
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Have you ever had a similar situation like this? Let
me know in the comments, and do hit that leg
button and make sure subscribed if you aren't yet. Up next,
we've got a dating horror story that interestingly involves trans politics,
but no actual trans people. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Hi, Brad, I'm Darcy, and I have a story about
how the whole gender ideology nonsense is starting to affect
absolutely everybody, including people who really want nothing to do
with it. So I was on a dating app and
on my profile I put that I'm a woman who's
interested in men, and I'm not the most feminine woman
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in the world, but I'm definitely not masculine and have
never tried to be. I was talking to this guy
and it seemed like things were going well So we
were trying to find a time to meet each other
and skuy sends me a message and goes, before we meet,
I just want to double check that you're actually a woman.
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And I was like, excuse me, oh, and he goes yeah,
I mean, you know, it's it's crazy out there. You
never can tell. And I was like, okay, I can
understand and sympathize with that sentiment to an extent, but no,
I'm a woman. And this guy goes, okay, well, there
were just some things about you that made me think
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you might be a man. Oh me to tell you then,
Oh no, I don't want you to send me a
list of things you thought about me that maybe look
like a dude. Like what woman wants to hear that? Anyway,
I just thought that was an insane thing to say
to someone that you'd never even met. And I needless
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to say, things do not work out with him. Dating
is rough out there right now.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Bro fumbled so bad on this one because it sounds
like he actually had an inn with a wonderful woman
with excellent taste in podcasts and YouTube content. So he
messed up one for himself here. And I was with
him in the first half probably. I don't know if
it's necessarily artful to ask about it in this way,
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but like, I don't know. I mean, you wouldn't want
if that's not something you're interested in, if you're not,
you know, open to dating a trans woman, which if
you are, all, by all means power to you. I'm
totally supportive of However, people want to love and date
and live their lives. But like, if you're a typical
heterosexual man, you wouldn't be interested in dating a trans
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woman who was born biologically male. So I think it's
reasonable for you to want to figure that out. I'm
not sure coming out and asking it is the best
way to go about it, but like, hey, that part
wasn't so bad, the part where you say no, And
it sounds like you weren't even put off by that.
So he says, he asks you say no, you know
I'm born a woman, and then he says, do you
(07:50):
want me to tell you why I thought you were trans? Sir?
You just, oh my gosh, stepped in Quicksand I don't
know why you thought to type that out. I don't
know how you looked at that message and thought she's
gonna love this. What I think your response is totally reasonable.
He sounds like not the brightest bulb for thinking that
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would go over well with telling a woman who you
don't even know, all this unsolicited feedback about how she's
comes off as masculine in whatever way, which, by the way,
is totally fine. Tomboys, whatever you want to call it is,
that's cool. It's a natural part of human expression. And
if it's not for him, that's okay. But he doesn't
need to, like critically let you know how you could
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be more feminine in his eyes. It's the audacity for me, sir.
You haven't even bought her a drink yet, she did
not ask for feedback. The complaints department is closed, at
least to you, So I don't blame you at all
for giving him the cold shoulder after that one. And
look to the men out there that he are sexual men.
I sympathize with you a little bit about this general concern,
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not wanting to end up in a situation where maybe
you encounter a surprise package. But whatever you do, do
not go about it like this. Up next, we've got
another story of personal relationships praying over politics, but this
one actually has a happy end. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Hi, my name is Lee, and I don't have time
to tell the full story, but essentially from my opinions
about why I didn't get vaccinated and which were very
well thought out at the time, and I'm very glad
I chose not to do that, and the fact that
(09:34):
I was like not happy that Trump almost got assassinated
the first time, and like I'm an independent, I wasn't
like a Trump supporter. I'm not a Trump supporter, But
just from those two things, my one of my closest
friends like kind of lost it and told me that
they were worried I was a white supremacist. And it's like,
(09:55):
I knew people were at this point, but it was
a whole different thing to have it in my face
with someone who knows me deeply for years and loves
me and considers me one of their closest confidants. It
was a really crazy experience. It was really upsetting and
sad to see how far things have gone, particularly with
the vaccine thing. It's like, how did we get from
(10:16):
like a medical thing to white supremacy. Doesn't make sense
to me. I have a nursing background, I'm an herbalist, like,
so you know, I'm not just somebody talking out there.
But but the cool thing is we actually ended up
working through it and now we're having really beautiful conversations.
Their extreme response actually kind of woke them up to like, whoa,
(10:39):
Like what's happening with me? So it has a happy ending.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
This made me so happy to get this message because
I've heard from so many of you guys who've had
relationships that have been cut off or given the cold
shoulder or heartbreak or trauma from family, like fraying family
relationships because of politics and because of this kind of
you know, oversimplified, closed minded worldview like oh you don't
(11:03):
support getting the COVID vacs, you must be a white supremacist.
Or you don't want Trump assassinated, Oh you must be
in the KKK. Like this kind of thing that's obviously
absurd and hysterical has infected a lot of people who,
you know, they're not all bad humans. They may be
people who with whom you've had loving relationships and have
wonderful qualities and have done excellent things in their lives,
(11:25):
but they've been infected by this kind of hysteria. I
blame in large part a lot of social media echo
chambers and mainstream media coverage and these kinds of things,
But we actually have an example here of somebody who
was like that and afraid of relationship, but then actually
realized and grew and now they're overcoming it. And that
makes me so happy because hopefully that gives you guys
(11:48):
out there who are having that kind of experience some
hope that forever is a long time and just because
somebody's cut you off because of politics, a family member,
a loved one, a friend, doesn't mean that it's going
to be that forever. And don't give up, don't become hopeless,
and just keep having honest conversations and try to keep
doors open to people even when they close them. You
(12:09):
just make sure that you know, well, I'm sorry you
feel that way, but I'm always here to talk and
I would love to reconnect with you when you're in
a place where you're comfortable discussing things again. And if
you do that, then at least you know when you
go to sleep at night that you did all you
could to preserve this relationship and that you have left
a crack in the door for them to hopefully see
(12:30):
the light and come back up next. This message really
through me for a loop. Somebody called in who has
a roommate who identifies as a sovereign citizen. Let's take
a listen to this message.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Hi, Brad, my name is Logan, and I just want
to say I've been watching your show for about two
years now, and with everything that you've gone over, I've
seen some insane things recently, from being called a fascist
fantasizer for playing the video game Held to which is
hilarious even because it's satirizing, you know, all that like
(13:05):
Starship Troopers kind of vibe. But I've also have an
interesting living condition where I live with a person that
identifies as a sovereign citizen. God forbid if you ever
meet one. They're one of the most intolerant people I've
ever met because they believe that the Constitution is the
only law of the land. The tenth Amendment for people
(13:29):
to make laws the state's government salves does not exist.
But they just have these insane viewpoints. And he keeps
lecturing me like, you don't need a driver's license.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
You don't need a license plate, blah blah blah blah blah,
talking points like that I don't have to pay taxes,
you know, stuff like that, and I just want to
get your thoughts on it, because I have to deal
with this every single day, and he just goes on
and on and on says I can see the garden
for ten million dollars for this, But I want to
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hear your thoughts.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
Love your show, keep it up.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
You're amazing. So I have heard about sovereign citizens before,
and it is a very interesting group. I've listened to
some deep dive podcasts about it, but I can't say
I'm an expert in what they believe or you know,
the lore of it all. So I won't make too
many claims about it, but I will say I put
it in it's kind of like maybe like a niche
(14:25):
libertarian version of Woke, where I come back to the
same theme. De Lulu is not a slulu. And maybe
you think you shouldn't need a driver's license. I'm personally
call me Gary Johnson, but I'm okay with needing maybe
a basic minimum requirement before you can hit the road.
But maybe you think no driver's license should be necessary.
(14:47):
Zero taxation, All taxes are theft. Okay, you can think that,
but that is not in fact the law of the land,
and if you try to just do that anyway, you're
gonna catch a case. I mean, I've seen these videos
where these sovereign citizens go into court and like the
judges arguing with them, and they're like, well, actually, I
(15:09):
am the sovereign citizen the tenth Amendment this, and the
judge's like, yeah, don't care, bailiff, take them to jail.
And so it's not going to work out for them.
I mean, if they have to learn it the hard way,
that's unfortunate, but that's their choice. They're adults. I think
what you all you can do is, if you want
to try to reach this person, you could show him
(15:30):
some of these videos of sovereign citizens trying these exact arguments.
It literally never works from the videos I've seen. Never
has the judge said, yes, sir, you're right, the laws
of this court don't apply to you. Here, take your
pocket constitution and go home, and here's your ten million
dollars that we owe you. Like, it's not a thing,
(15:52):
it's not gonna happen. You could try to reach him
and show him these videos where they try this stuff
and it never works for them. But also, honest, it's
not your job to cure his delulu. If he wants
to live in his own little fantasy world and think
all this stuff, I guess just let him. But if
it's bothering you, or if he's harassing you about it,
then it's not even any more about the sovereign citizen thing.
(16:13):
It's just about boundaries. You should just say to him, listen,
you're totally entitled to your beliefs. I don't believe this.
I don't really want to talk about it, so I'm
asking you to maybe just not bring that up to
me and we can talk about other stuff together. And
then if you make that perfectly reasonable request and he
doesn't respect your basic boundaries, then that has nothing to
(16:37):
do with a sovereign citizen. That's just not being a
good roommate or a good friend. And then it's probably
time to look on Craigslist or Zillow. Not because he's
a sovereign citizen, although I still think that's kind of wild,
but because he's not being a good housemate or friend
at that point, and no matter what your beliefs are,
that's not okay. Up next, this one truly horrified me.
(17:02):
But we had a voice note from somebody whose family
member politicized their personal tragedy. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 7 (17:09):
Okay, the worst thing anybody's ever said to me, that's
a little bit politically charged. I unfortunately lost my first baby,
my husband and I via miscarriage. It was extremely traumatic
and horrible. I had to have a DNC procedure and yeah,
just very much wanted pregnancy. Not ideal situation.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Horrible.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
But during all of this, I have a cousin who
is not politically active at all. She's actually very much
like willfully ignorant to it all.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
She doesn't care.
Speaker 7 (17:38):
But her parents are pretty liberal, so she's kind of
always has them in her ear, I think, and whether
she wanted to or not, she just hears things and
picks things up on you know, her parents or TikTok.
I don't. I don't really know. But while I was
going through all of this, she said to me, because
I had to schedule my surgery and stuff, and she
knew about that, and she said, well, good thing you're
(17:58):
going through this when Trump's not a because you couldn't
do it and you'd probably die, or if you did
do it, you'd be in jail. So if that's my story,
obviously that's not the case, regardless of the abortion debate.
Sorry to bring up the abortion debate. I'm sure that
you're over that now that the election's over, But yeah,
that's my story. Yeah, that one hurt. I'm not gonna lie,
(18:21):
And that was crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
H First, I'm tearing up because just my heart breaks
for you and your husband, and I'm so sorry. I
can't imagine what that must be like and the pain
of going through that. I have a couple of close
friends who've had similar issues, and it is an absolute tragedy.
We're going to totally set aside, like the politics of
abortion and all that, just for this conversation. What a
(18:45):
wildly inappropriate and insensitive thing to say. Now, maybe your
cousin is a good person who had good intentions and
it's just kind of like socially a bull in a
china shop and didn't realize how insensitive and insane that was.
But I guess like a good rule of thumb in
life is probably don't politicize people's tragedies, their personal tragedies,
(19:06):
like keep your political takes out of it. And of
course you're correct that, I mean, the nuances of some
of these pro life laws being written poorly at the
state level. I mean, people have reported on and talked
about that, and they cause problems with like miscarriages or
ectopic pregnancies or that sort of thing. But it's not
the case that like miscarriage is now criminalized under Trump.
(19:30):
None of that changed because of the election. That's almost
exclusively at the state level, regardless, and just setting aside
all of that, if somebody is telling you or you
have learned about a personal loss in their life, the
last thing you should do, if you love and care
about that person is somehow invoke politics. I don't know,
(19:53):
maybe give your cousin the benefit of the doubt, but
it would be perfectly fair for you to say to
your listen, you said this. It was really inappropriate and
it really hurt me, and I think you should apologize,
and you should keep in mind to not do that
in the future. When people are sharing their tragic experiences
with you. You would be entirely within your rights to
(20:15):
ask that of your family member. And if your cousin
loves you and values your relationship, they would absolutely I
think if your cousin is in the category of well
intentioned but just kind of socially inept or a little
brainwashed that I think that your cousin would have the
response of, oh my god, I'm so sorry, what a
stupid thing to say. I'm really apologize. And if somehow
(20:37):
your cousin got mad at you or wasn't willing to apologize,
then look, that tells you a lot about the caliber
and quality of that relationship and whether it's worth investing
in in the future. But I'm so sorry for your loss.
I'm very sorry for your cousin's oafish remarks. And guys,
let's not be like that. Okay, let's just not up
(20:59):
next what happens when people bring up politics at the
funeral home. We got an interesting voice note about exactly
that question.
Speaker 8 (21:08):
I've read my names Anna, and I work at a
funeral home, and so I kind of wanted to get
your opinion on something a niche. So I meet with
a lot of families. I talk with a lot of families.
I'm always like either doing lots of paperwork or working
directly with the family. And I you know, I voted
(21:29):
for Trump, but I'm not like mega crazy. I just
didn't want I'm just not like super left leaning right.
And so there are people who will come in and
they're grieving, right, so they don't really know what else
to talk about. And so when grieving families come in
and they want to talk about anything else but you know,
(21:50):
their loved one, sometimes they'll bring up politics and they'll
start going on and on and on. And I mean,
in the state where I'm at, most people it's we're
a red state. A lot of the people who come
in that I talk to will just go on and
on and they'll start asking me questions like, well, you know,
what do you think about this?
Speaker 7 (22:08):
You know?
Speaker 8 (22:09):
And I try to do my best to give back
on topic about their loved one, But I don't know.
I don't know when I disagree with families, really, when
I have different political views, what'sn't the best way for
me to communicate with them so that we don't like
lose their business, you know?
Speaker 1 (22:22):
So thank you for telling me about this experience. This
is a really interesting voice note kind of mixed thoughts
because normally, like my general rule is, I think you
should stick up for your beliefs and vocalize them and
not be afraid of hurting someone's feelings. If you're just
calmly and respectfully stating the truth. This is a situation
(22:42):
where I might have a little bit of a different approach.
Though you're at work. You're in a professional capacity that
is not political, so it wouldn't necessarily be appropriate for
you to bring up politics at work. You're in a
little bit of a tricky situation that these families are
perhaps unknowingly putting you in by them bringing it up.
But I guess listen, they are in the middle of
(23:05):
personal family tragedy, and for you to like debate them
or challenge them just feels wrong to me. It feels insensitive,
And also, I mean, I'm not really sure what would
be accomplished by it. I doubt they're in the logical
state of mind to like reevaluate their positions or be
(23:25):
convinced of anything. So what I would say is that
it might be best to just listen, just let them
say whatever they want, and not along and just affirm
their delulu. I usually don't recommend affirming delulu, but if
they're talking about like Handmaid's Tale project twenty twenty five,
I would just NodD along and say, oh, okay, tell
(23:46):
me more about how you feel. Let them talk. They
just want to be distracted from the fact that they're
burying their loved one. And as much as I might
disagree with them politically, I can understand that human impulse,
you know, And if they specifically have you for your opinion,
I would just say, you know, I'm not really allowed
to talk about my political opinions at work, but I'm
(24:07):
happy to listen and just leave it at that. I
doubt they'll really insist or pry, but this would, I
would say, probably be one of those rare situations where
speaking out about your beliefs or challenging people on the
things they say that are wrong might not be appropriate
or tactful. So in this case, maybe bite your tongue
(24:29):
and you can always send in a voice note telling
me if they say something particularly de Lulu Up next,
we've got a voicemail from somebody who's white liberal friends
won't stop being racist to them. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 5 (24:44):
They bribe.
Speaker 9 (24:44):
My name is John, I'm from Jersey, I'm Hispanic. The
reason I bring that up is because some of my
more liberal friends have started referring to me as LATINX,
and that's really been pissing me off. One of them
had the audacity to ask if I married my wife
(25:06):
for the prestige of marrying a white woman. Oh so yeah,
I just wanted to hear your thoughts on that level
of insanity.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Oh it is funny to me because listen, I grew
up in the suburbs of Rhode Island and Massachusetts, which
are blue states, and in the suburbs where people tend
to be more affluent, you have a lot of these
nominally liberal, center left people who think they're super woke,
but they're really not. And these people sound like they
(25:35):
fall into that category. To call you LATINX is literally
woke colonization of actual Hispanic language and culture where words
are gendered Latino or Latina and there is no gender
neutral But these wok white people are trying to make
something up, invent something fake, and insert it into your
(25:57):
language because they think that your culture is like problematic
because it doesn't include non binary Hispanic baristas or something.
It's absurd. And I guess there's two ways to go
about it. One is like the trollish way, where you
could tell them, actually, that's a microaggression when you say LATINX,
and you could play their game. Or you could get
(26:17):
real with them and say Listen, guys, I know you're
trying to be inclusive or whatever, but Latinos don't believe
in this. You could even show them the polling where
I don't have it in front of me, but like
ninety five percent of Latinos say they've never heard of LATINX,
let alone do they use it. So you could troll
them back, or you could get real with them, but
(26:38):
it's actually ridiculous and you shouldn't have to accept that
from friends. In the same way, the comment about your
wife is like really inappropriate, and you would be well
within your rights to be like, no, I don't know
what you're talking about. I married my wife because I
love her and I don't think about race all the
time like this, because I'm a normal person. You'd be
well within your rights and listen. Maybe they're lovely people
(27:01):
in a lot of ways, but they might need a
little bit of a reality check or an honest talking
to and maybe they're open to it. And if they're not,
then they might be a little too close minded for
you to be friends with when you're a free thinking,
intelligent individual with great taste in podcasts. What do you
(27:21):
guys think about that one? Especially my LATINX listeners. Is
it LATINX or is it latins? Either way sounds incredibly
stupid and fake to me. What do you guys think
of all this? Which one of these voicemails was your favorite?
Please do let me know in the comments. Do hit
that button make sure subscribed if you aren't yet, remember
(27:43):
you can send in voice notes with your wo chorus
stories or your crazy personal situations at the link in
the description and we'll talk again real soon.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
Yeah,
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