August 27, 2025 • 33 mins
The news of Taylor Swift's engagement is breaking the internet... and some MAGA influencers, like Charlie Kirk, are making it weird and political. I break it down in this episode of the Brad vs Everyone podcast. Plus, a meltdown inside Vanity Fair over First Lady Melania Trump and fat activists on TikTok are mad at Serena Williams over a truly bizarre "controversy."
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Reject feminism, submit to your husband, Taylor, You're not in charge.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Taylor Swift broke the Internet by announcing her engagement, and
some MAGA influencers just had to make it weird. We're
going to break this down, plus so much more on
today's episode of The Brad Versus Everyone Podcast, our daily
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show where we take on the craziest ideas from across
the Internet, our media, and our politics, all from an
independent perspective. Up first, guys, it's the big story of
the day. I'm trying really hard to care about it,
but I just really don't. And that is that Taylor
Swift has announced her engagement to Travis Kelce, the football player.
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And for a lot of people, this is like their
super Bowl. This is like a big deal. This is
kind of a national holiday for them. And I don't
begrudge them that. I just am not particularly a diehard,
swifty or anything like that, so I kind of shrugged
at it. But here's the reporting of this momentous occasion
American history from NBC News.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Look, Emily, this feels like manifestation at its peak. Because
Caldor has been singing about love and a football player.
I feel like since we were teens.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Well, in the words of Taylor Swift, drop everything now.
But this is major breaking news. We're talking about it's
an anything anyone is talking about really in this building.
Taylor Swift Travis Kelsey, they've been dating for about two years.
They started dating over the course of her record breaking
Era's tour and now they're engaged. To look at those
photos they shared on Instagram, really an ethereal vibe. There's
the beautiful ring. They're surrounded by a lot of flowers,
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and she captured it. Your English teacher and your gym
teacher are getting there. The favorite parts about this all
is the song that accompanied the post, It's So High School,
which is largely said to be written and inspired by
Travis Kelce. She released it during the course of the
Era's tour, and she performed on the ERA. So she
does this kind of like signature motion here that mirrors Travis.
I'll see what he does on the field, so there's
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some parallels there.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
So it's always fun.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
And you know how she loves to leave the the
Easter eggs saying my stomach dropped, I got phone calls.
I pulled over. I had to catch my breath because
people are that cute into their relationship.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I want to show you guys a funny clip that
actually kind of sums up like how I react to
this and how I think most every day people probably
would react to this. Take a look at this.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
What Tailor Swift get engaged? That's it? Chats do you
hear what? Taylor Swift got engaged?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
But that uh okay when we well.
Speaker 6 (02:42):
So Taylor Swifts get engaged? Congratulations? Here what get engaged?
Speaker 7 (02:48):
What?
Speaker 8 (02:49):
No?
Speaker 6 (02:50):
One last guy for you? Dude?
Speaker 8 (02:52):
No?
Speaker 6 (02:56):
What did you hear here? What gun engaged?
Speaker 8 (03:00):
I could give a fuck?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
What's all?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Bro?
Speaker 6 (03:04):
You can Tailor Swift guy gage? Who Taylor Swift engage? Yeah? Okay?
To who? What? To Kyles Kelsey? Oh yeah, okay? What
do you hear? Dot? Hear what Taylor Swift ganyage.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Gives a fun So that's me. But that's not everyone.
Some people were joyous. Some people were like angry or
enraged or immediately politicized this in weird ways like we're
going to get to Charlie Kirk. But even Trump got
asked about it, and his response was for him, surprisingly magnanimous.
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Take a listen to him.
Speaker 9 (03:47):
The biggest popul is of the year broke while you're
in this cabin being Travis Kelcey and Tyler Swift are
engaged in the watch.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
Your reactions are, well, I wish him allowed alone.
Speaker 10 (03:59):
I think it's I think he's a great player, I
think he's a great guy, and I think that she's
a terrific person.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
So I wish the have a lot a lot.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
So, guys, now we're going to get to the part
where this story gets weird because some people just had
to make it weird, chief among them Mega superstar and
influencer Charlie Kirk, who made some eyebrow raising comments about
Taylor Swift because it started out like, okay, a little odd,
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but then by the end was very weird, very strange. Okay,
so let's look at this first clip.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
But maybe one of the reasons why Taylor Swift has
been so just kind of annoyingly liberal over the last
couple of years is that she's not yet married and
she doesn't have children. I say this non sarcastically.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
So Charlie had to instantly politicize this, and I actually
don't think it makes a lot of sense. I think
Taylor is liberal because she inhabits a liberal industry, and
because she is a cosmopolitan and an urbanite. And it's
definitely true that some people as they get married and
have kids, become more conservative, but a lot of times
they just don't. Actually, lots of liberals and progressives and
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Democratic voters have children and families and are married, and
so it really actually doesn't tell you very much politically.
So like we're already reaching here, Charlie, really reaching, let's continue.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Taylor Swift might go from a cat lady to a JD.
Van supporter, and I think we celebrate that. I think
that Taylor Swift having two or three children, she should
have more children than she has houses. That is my
challenge Taylor Swift. And I'm not being sarcastic. I think
that if she, if she ends up having children, she'll
stop this kind of liberal endorsing Joe Biden nonsense. And
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we want, we want Taylor Swift on Team America. We
want you to leave the island of the Wokies, and
we would welcome you with open arms. One of the
reasons why so many people on the right have been
just skeptical or at least a little bit negative on
Taylor Swift is up until this point, that's not a
great role model for young women to wait all the
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way until you're thirty five and just put your career first.
We just talked about this with Katie Miller. However, there's
a great chance to change that.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
So Charlie, this is me betting you that Taylor Swift
will not in fact become a JD Fant supporter. I
could be wrong. Crazier things in the world have happened,
but that seems pretty darn unlikely to me. And just
because she has kids does not mean if she even
has kids, we don't even know if they're going to
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does not mean she will instantly stop being a liberal.
That it's not a thing most people that isn't what happens,
and I can't be the only one who found it
a little odd. How Like many conservatives immediately start to
think about her popping out a bunch of children, like,
I don't really care. If she wants kids, great, she
should have a couple of kids. If she doesn't, okay,
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So like, why is this so important? I've seen people
suggest they it'll be like a baby boom if Taylor
Swift has children. And I could be wrong, but I
think there will not be a statistically significant change in
the US birth rate based on Taylor Swift having a baby.
I could be wrong, Crazier things have happened, but I'm
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pretty skeptical of that idea. And then I don't agree
with this idea that he suggests that we want her
on Team America. Politics is not as simple as Republicans
love America Democrats hate America. Obviously, I lean a little
bit more to the right politically, though I'm an independent
these days. But I know people left right and center
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who genuinely love our country and have their best interests
in heart, have the best interests of our country at heart,
and so I don't I really hate that idea that
this kind of you hear it from the left all
the time, where they say, oh, Republicans are all just
bad and evil. Well, oh, Democrats are against America. Some are, sure,
but many are not. And I don't think there's any
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reason to believe that Taylor Swift is anti America just
because she endorsed Joe Biden or Kamala or whatever. So
so far a little bit of cringe. Some commentary I
don't quite agree with. But this final clip of Charlie
is where things get genuinely weird. Take a listen.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
This is something that I hope will make Taylor Swift
more conservative, engage in reality more, and get outside of
the abstract clouds. Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor,
You're not in charge, and most importantly, I can't wait
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to go to a Taylor Kelsey concert. I can't say
it without laughing. You gotta change your name. If not,
you don't really mean it.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Congratulations Taylor, anyone else feel a little uncomfy right now?
I did not need Charlie Kirk staring into the camera
and telling Taylor Swift to submit. Submit to your husband,
Taylor like oh. I understand that that's part of like
traditionalist Christian wedding vows, But most people these days do
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not view marriage as a woman submitting to the leadership
of her husband, and I have a feeling that Taylor,
like many people, will view it as a partnership. And
she may change her name, she may not. She might
also change her name but then still go by Taylor
Swift for like entertainment purposes in her public persona, which
I think is totally fine. I like the idea of
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changing your name when you get married, but if you
want to continue to use the brand that you've built publicly. Great,
why wouldn't you. It doesn't mean you're not committed to
your marriage. And I'm sorry, but there's something incredibly strange
and off putting about this certain kind of male conservative
commentary where they're like instantly seeing a woman get married
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and they're like, submit, submit to your man, your husband's
in charge. Now. It's weird. It gives very strange energy,
and I'm telling you right now that repulses women, many women,
especially younger women, from conservatism or from a Republican message,
because it sounds like you genuinely view women as beneath
you or as as like, oh, a second class of citizen,
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or they just need to shut up and do what
men tell them. It really it gives anti feminist in
the way that actually matters, not in like the oh
you're not woke, but in the way that you think
women are an underclass to men. And again, I really
have no issue if in your personal marriage you have
this like submissive dominant arrangement, knock yourself out. I probably
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don't need to hear you talk about it. I don't
really want to be included in the conversation on that.
But regardless of ge like, if that's your traditionalism, that's
your value is great. It is weird to instantly see
someone else get married like submit submit Taylor Like, I'm sorry,
it's weird. It makes me uncomfy, And I heard from
a lot of right leading women who agreed with me.
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When I posted about this on X, Bridget Fetasy, the comedian,
wrote about Charlie, I am once again begging conservative pundits
to stop sounding like a bunch of weirdos and go
have a drink with some normal dudes at the bar.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I agree with this. I don't know, but call me crazy,
but I don't think most men speak about their wives
as Yes, she submits to me, I am the alpha.
I also feel like if you have to constantly announce
that you're the leader, you might not actually be the leader.
I'm just saying. My friend Mary Catherine Hamm, who is
a Fox News contributor, she wrote on X that this
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is tiresome rage bait. One of the best things about
Kelsey is that he is so demonstrably unthreatened by her
referring to Taylor. He spends his life being a modern
gladiator accomplishing feats of manly strength and courage and being
a super Bowl champion. He's good. It's a great compliment
to her. I agree with this. I think that it
actually speaks well to Travis Kelsey's character as a man
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that he doesn't feel so threatened and insecure by the
fact that Taylor is a bigger star than him, or
that she is so world famous or anything like that.
He doesn't need her to submit and just become Travis
Kelce's wife or anything like that. That's not the vibe
I get, and far from it from being some sort
of betrayal of the purpose of marriage like Charlie seems
to suggest. I actually think that's nice. I think that's
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a good modern relationship dynamic and it's perfectly fine, and
that when people like Charlie Kirk do this, they come
off as strange. That's my take and I'm sticking to it.
But you guys can let me know what you think
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Up next, we're going to talk about a scandal taking
over the magazine Vanity Fair, which I cannot say I'm
a regular reader of not really that kind of gay.
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I'm pretty gay, but not really that kind of gay.
But anyway, Vanity Fair apparently still exists, is still a thing,
and it's embroiled in kind of an internal scandal, a
civil war, if you will, over Milania Trump, because apparently
the new editor of Vanity Fair wants to put her
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on the cover, or at least floated the idea and
was quickly met with a revolt from woke staffers threatening
to quit in protest. Take a listen to this from
Fox News.
Speaker 9 (13:45):
Worts suggests its new boss is potentially interested in featuring
Milania as liberal outlets shift to woo the administration. Milania
was excluded from the nation's fashion magazines, including Vogue and
Vanity Fair, during her first time in the White House,
despite previous First Lady features. Michelle Obama was on twelve
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magazine covers during per eight years as the First Lady,
including three times on the cover of Vogue. But now
this potential move has employees of the fame fashion magazine
losing their minds, with some threatening to quit if the
First Lady is branded a spot on the cover.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I mean, you got to see what he says. I
will walk out of this blank, blank door.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Half my staff this according to it, who is a
mid level editor, We're.
Speaker 7 (14:33):
Not going to normalize that desk spot and his wife.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
So that's the attitude of the people you hire.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I would say, listen, if you're going to walk out
because you don't like my cover, you don't understand who
the boss is, you should leave.
Speaker 9 (14:45):
She's a Vogue before she became First Lady, and.
Speaker 7 (14:49):
Fashion is She's at the top of the fashion industry
and has been for decades. But I love that our
editor says that. And she speaks with her clothes in
a way like I don't get clothes, but she speaks
and like I get. I look at her clothes and
I'm like, oh wow, that's a sociation.
Speaker 9 (15:06):
And she speaks how many languages.
Speaker 7 (15:08):
She's so large, right, But I love that this editor says,
if I have to work bagging groceries and Trader Joe's,
I'll do it.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I would far rather work at Trader Joe's. Trader Joe's
is a great place to work.
Speaker 7 (15:18):
I think it's fun to it's fun to show you're
always very friendly.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
The quotes from the reporting about this are really quite something.
So reading from the post Millennial here, this is one
of the staffers speaking, we are not going to normalize
this death spot and his wife. We're just not going
to do it. We're gonna stand for what's right. If
I have to work bagging groceries at Trader Joe's, I'll
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do it. If Gudici, the editor, puts Malani on the cover,
half of the editorial staff will walk out. I guarantee it,
the staffer, who remained anonymous said. Another employee, though, offered
a different perspective and said, it's all talk. If they
put her on the cover, people will protest and grape
about it, but I don't see anyone quitting such a
prestigious job over that. Honestly, there will be people who
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push back, but ultimately it's Mark's decision. He's the one
who will sink or swim over that choice, not the
rest of us. There are so many layers to this controversy.
I guess you have to call it that are so
ridiculous and so antithetical to journalism. I also love the
casual elitism, as if these Vanity Fair writers to think
they're above the plebs who bag groceries at Trader Joe's.
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I actually appreciate them and respect the work they do,
and I acknowledge that it's important, And I don't think
I'm better than them just because I work on a
laptop and they work at a grocery store counter. But
that is absolutely how many mainstream media figures feel they
got some fancy degree where they've frankly was probably a
joke anyway, And they work at one of these elite institutions,
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and they look down on working class Americans so much
that they use them as an example of what they
would do if they took a brave, bold stand. Yeah,
because the Trump administration is really never going to recover
from Vanity Fair staffers walking out over a magazine cover.
It's like, do these people think they actually the self
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importance is so unreal. Maybe Vanity Fair used to be
very relevant, used to be like a big deal. It's
certainly not anymore in the modern culture or the modern
cultural zeitgeist. So for these people to think they're like
doing their big one, Oh we'll all walk out? Oh no,
how would Milania ever recover? How would President Trump's administration
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continue without your support? Like they really think they're so
important even though they're literally irrelevant. It's almost funny. But
I actually agree with the second guy. I think you
might get a couple like true believers who would storm out,
And as far as I'm considered, as I could see it,
I would say, don't let the door hit you, please go.
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But I bet a lot of them would just complain
about it and stick around because they don't want to
give up their cushy jobs. What I suspect. That's my
working theory on that. And what I'll say is this
as well, not for me to speak on style or
anything like that. I mean my boyfriend literally when we
got together, he had to slowly start disappearing my outfits
and replacing them with new clothes because they looked bad
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like some of my old friends that I have from
before we started dating six six years ago. Literally did
we joke about it because I used to wear the
same like three things like the same ratty blue and
gray under armor sweatshirt. They could always pick me out
of a crowd. What I what my boyfriend did is like,
I don't know, six months or a year into dating,
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he just was doing my laundry and they disappeared and
I didn't notice, And then like a year later, I'm like, hey,
where's my sweatshirt and he's like, yeah, I threw that
out last February. So far from me to speak on
style or to claim any sort of expertise in this,
but I kind of think that the same way Vanity
Fair and these other magazines have put like all the
other modern first ladies on the cup her Millenia is
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actually pretty darn stylish and kind of glorious and rather glamorous,
that is, And I think she's kind of iconic. I actually,
obviously I'm pretty critical of Trump, but I actually like her,
and I think she's I don't see any reason she's
like a bad first lady or anything like that. She
was a wasn't she a supermodel? I mean, so the
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idea that she shouldn't be on the front of cover
of Vanity Fair when the other first ladies who aren't
don't have her background in you know, modeling and glamour
and all this stuff. Again, I'm way out of my
lane here, but I'm saying it seems pretty clear to
me she belongs on the cover as well. If they
always put the first Lady on the cover, why wouldn't
they do it for her, unless, of course they think
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that like, you don't count, you're not the first Lady.
If the writers at Vanity Fair don't agree with your
husband's politics, it just doesn't even make any sense. Your
job is to like represent American fashion and discourse, and
the First Lady is a big part of that, whether
you like them or not. So what's crazy about this
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is like they could even do a cover and then
have the story be like critical or skeptical in some way.
But these people really object to even acknowledging the existence
of culturally significant conservative people, in this case women, in
a way that I find really bizarre and incredibly arrogant.
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Like Milania is still more relevant than every single one
of you times a thousand combined, Yet they think, well,
we won't bestow upon her the gift of Vanity Fair
covered them because she's part of the bad people. She
probably wouldn't even do it at this point, if we're
so honest, like this whole story assumes she would do it,
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which I don't even know that she would. But they're
so presemptuous, they're so arrogant, and they fundamentally just wreak
of disdain for the country who's citizens they rely on
to keep their business running. I think this story is wild,
and I think that it kind of perfectly encapsulates the
rot of mainstream and establishment media that has led to
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its demise. Other than that, though they're doing great over
a vanity fair. Okay, one final story to talk about today,
Fat TikTok fat positivity TikTok. That is, they're not happy.
They're very upset with a certain celebrity and superstar athlete,
Serena Williams, the legendary tennis player, because she dare do
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a commercial promoting GLP ones, you know, those medications that
millions of people are taking to get healthier and lose
weight and feel better about themselves and solve their health issues.
That is evil and dastardly thing to do in the
mind of these fat positivity activists that somehow still have
these large presences on TikTok. Anyway, I'm going to show
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you the commercial first that she did for ROW, which,
by the way, Row hit me up, sponsor me, I
would love to promote some antibody positivity medications. Hit me
up anyway. Serena Williams did this collaboration with Roe. Here's
that commercial that has certain sectors of the Internet up
in arms.
Speaker 8 (22:15):
Yes, I'm on ROW. They say golp Ones for weight
loss is a shortcut.
Speaker 7 (22:23):
It's not.
Speaker 8 (22:23):
It's science after kids, It's a medicine. My body needed.
Gop One's helped me lose thirty one pounds. One app
to hit my goals. This is healthcare, this is Roe.
I'm Serena Williams and I'm a real ROW member.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Now, guys, prepare yourself because we're going to react to
some tiktoks that I compiled. And it's some of the
most unhinged discourse I have seen in the minute. It's
giving Sydney Sweeney actually like that whole dumb controversy, But honestly,
this might be like even less reasonable than the people
who crashed out over that. Let's listen to this first clip.
Speaker 10 (23:05):
First of all, I want to acknowledge my privileges. I'm
a thin white woman. I can't even pretend to know
what it's like for a black woman or black women
in larger bodies to understand the discrimination the oppression that
they go through.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I can't pretend to know that.
Speaker 10 (23:21):
But what I can do is I can state my
thoughts and opinions as someone who supports people in making
peace with food and their body and in all size bodies.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Right where.
Speaker 10 (23:33):
That's where I'm coming from. If she can't accept her body,
this is where I think of everyone else that internalizes that,
And it's like, how do any of us stand a chance?
If the greatest of all time can't accept her body,
how do we stand a chance?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Oh my gosh, guys, I'm so sorry I forgot to
start this segment with a disclaimer about my privilege as
a white, able bodied cisgendered. I almost said heterosexual, because
that's the part of the buzzword, but not quite that part.
White male who occupies a body of thinness, who suffers
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from extreme pretty privilege. Oh my gosh, how exhausting it
must be to go through the world like this, constantly
flagellating yourself for your immutable characteristics and suggesting that your
opinion or perspective is somehow less valid, absolutely wild. But
also I love this woman. She's like a I don't know,
pro fat activist or whatever. On TikTok, She's like, I
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help people feel comfortable in their bodies at any size, sorry,
but morbidly obese people for their own sake and their
own health. You shouldn't be making them, helping them become
content with their bodies. Should be helping them change their
bodies and improve their health. Should never bully people, Never
shame people. That's not a good thing to do. It's
not even productive, doesn't even help, probably often makes the
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problem worse. But you shouldn't be helping people become comfortable
in unhealthy states that are bad for them mentally, emotionally, spiritually, physically,
and beyond. So kind of crazy, and I think she's
taking the absolute wrong message from the actual commercial. The
message is that like, look, I'm Serena Williams, and I
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had a couple of kids, and I had trouble losing
weight even and I need help. There's no shame in
needing help. Even someone like me needed help to be healthier,
and so I took GLP ones and you can too.
Check now with row to get your coverage. Whatever. That's
not a bad message. That's a good message. You're helping
people get healthier. What's wrong with that? That seems like
great to me. I would give her a round of
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applause for that. But maybe that's my white able body
then privilege showing or something. I don't know. Let's look
at the next club.
Speaker 11 (25:46):
Cults love to keep people skinny. Serena Williams has been
sharing her journey with GLP ones and promoting the telehealth
company Row that her husband is an investor in. People
really feel like this is a return to conservative values
and a sign that finn is in is very much
a thing.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Again, did this woke up lady? Really? Just say wanting
to be thin and fit and healthy is conservative values.
You are not doing your side of favors. Love you
are You're like owning yourself. You're saying that being fat
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and unhealthy is like liberal values or progressive values. Are
you sure that's what you want to go with? You're
gonna stick to that one. I don't know what to say.
And they keep bringing up this point. Oh, her husband
is an investor in the company, so they profit off
of it. So they literally just think profit equals bad.
Profit can be bad if you're like exploiting someone or
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harming someone or defrauding people. But if you are providing
access to a product that makes people healthier and happier
and you're making money off of that, that is called
a win win. There's no shame in that. Oh, she's
making money off of it. Great. I hope she gets
a bag and helps America get healthier in the process.
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Sounds great to me. They really are not coping well
on TikTok with this development. Take a look at this
next video.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
The mask is off.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
We have officially stopped pretending it's really just about health,
and now weight less drugs are being promoted by an
extremely fit, extremely accomplished professional athlete. We're in a very
hopeless moment and everyone's kind of given up on changing society.
There were a lot of flaws of the body positivity movement.
We all kind of realized that, I think, and ultimately
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fat phobia was not defeated.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Why would we want to defeat fat phobia? That's not
even a real thing. But it's the extent that people
are afraid of being fat. That makes sense because it's
bad for you and it contributes to all of the
leading causes of death in America. So but on her
actual point that like even that even Serena Williams, who
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is so fit, taking it, No, that's not the point.
They don't. The point went over totally over their heads.
Serena Williams talked about the fact that she lost thirty
one pounds. She had a fair amount of extra weight
that she really struggled to lose after multiple pregnancies and
it was causing health issues. So she said in an
interview with The Today Show that since starting the medication,
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she's already seen and felt her health improve. At a
recent doctor's visit, she was told her blood sugar levels
have normalized, and she says her joints feel lighter, like
they're not taking as much of a load. She said,
I had a lot of knee issues, especially after I
had my kid, and I was never able to get
to my normal levels of weight. Reflecting on her health
goals when starting a GLP one, she also points out
that African Americans have an increased risk of diabetes. It's
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definitely around in my family, and I really just wanted
to look deeper. She explains. Williams's hope for the multi
year campaign is to normalize use of GLP one medications
for weight loss and help others live healthier lives. So
she did have actual health issues, she did have weight
to lose, and she's showing America, particularly women who look
up to her and maybe Black women who again, these
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health issues are more prevalent in those communities, and if
you really care about them, you should want them to
do better and thrive, not try to normalize diabetes or whatever.
And I think that's great. She was able to improve
her health. So they're lying when they say it wasn't
even about health, because she needed it. Know, the whole
point is that she needed it. Now. The contrary thing, though,
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is that even if it wasn't about health, even if
it was just wanting to look good and feel better
about yourself, that's also fine and good to a point. Obviously,
you know, you can become too obsessed with totally unrealistic
body standards, with you know, developed disorders and other such things,
so obviously there's a limit to that. But just wanting
to be slim and attractive and feel good about your
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body isn't bad. It's not. And these people seem to
just assume that it is. Of course, they also had
to make it about race, because they just do that
with everything always by default into this.
Speaker 12 (30:00):
So like fat phobia is not a chronic issue in
our society, then then why does one of the greatest
athletes of all time of our generation feel that she
needs pharmaceutical intervention by way of a GLP one in
order to lose weight and become skinny. What I hate
about GLP ones in the way that they're being used
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is that it seems like fatness is a universal problem
that everyone should want to fix.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yes, obesity is bad for you, so anyone who's obese
should want to fix that. Are we just science deniers now?
Total reality deniers? And it's wild because she just totally
ignored the fact that Serena specifically did this in part
to lower her blood sugar avoid getting diabetes, which runs
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in her family, and because, as she talked about on
the Today's Show, she was having joint issues related to
excessive body weight that she had thirty one pounds that
she lost that she struggled to lose without the medications
after childbirth. All of that is totally valid, and just
because you're triggered by it doesn't mean she did anything
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wrong at all. Theirs, of course, more.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Star athlete Serena Williams promoting a weight loss drug was
certainly not on my twenty twenty five bingo card, and frankly,
I find it to be deeply unsettling. Before I say
anything else, I want to admit that I don't really
understand how GOP wants work. I'm not educated on the subject.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
And then shut up. Why are you speaking? I hate
that they do this, TikTokers this all the time. I'm
not really educated on those, but then they keep talking.
I don't fix my mouth to speak about things that
I don't know anything about. Call me crazy, that's my
personal strategy. And she admits you she knows nothing about
the subject, then also has some wild takes like this.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
Listen, Yeah, it's bothersome deeply bothers arise in. Fat phobia
within our culture does not just come with the normalization
of Internet subcultures like skinny talk. It also comes with bigotry,
because at the end of the day, fat phobia isn't
just a fear of being fat, it's a fear of
the black body.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Uh oh. I love how we're conflating obesity with the
black body. And these are the woke people, these are
the anti racists black people. I mean, there's some differences
in bodies of course between races, but like, nothing about
being black means your body is inherently fat or obese.
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Tons of white people are obese in this country. You've
ever been to a cracker barrel. It's not about black
bodies white bodies. Everybody should want to be a healthy way,
and it's an epidemic in America. But yet these people
have tried to make it into some sort of marginalized
identity in the intersectional oppression Olympics, bullshit, NonStop stuff that
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they pull. It's actually horrible, it's actually really really bad
for our country, and they are misleading people. Whereas Serena
is helping people get healthier and making a bag while
she's at it. If you ask me, that's a pretty badass.
And that's something good, not something so problematic that it
needs a whole TikTok discourse around it. That's my hot take.
But what do you guys think? Let me know in
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Reject feminism, submit to your husband, Taylor, You're not in charge.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Taylor Swift broke the Internet by announcing her engagement, and
some MAGA influencers just had to make it weird. We're
going to break this down, plus so much more on
today's episode of The Brad Versus Everyone Podcast, our daily
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show where we take on the craziest ideas from across
the Internet, our media, and our politics, all from an
independent perspective. Up first, guys, it's the big story of
the day. I'm trying really hard to care about it,
but I just really don't. And that is that Taylor
Swift has announced her engagement to Travis Kelce, the football player.
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And for a lot of people, this is like their
super Bowl. This is like a big deal. This is
kind of a national holiday for them. And I don't
begrudge them that. I just am not particularly a diehard,
swifty or anything like that, so I kind of shrugged
at it. But here's the reporting of this momentous occasion
American history from NBC News.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Look, Emily, this feels like manifestation at its peak. Because
Caldor has been singing about love and a football player.
I feel like since we were teens.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Well, in the words of Taylor Swift, drop everything now.
But this is major breaking news. We're talking about it's
an anything anyone is talking about really in this building.
Taylor Swift Travis Kelsey, they've been dating for about two years.
They started dating over the course of her record breaking
Era's tour and now they're engaged. To look at those
photos they shared on Instagram, really an ethereal vibe. There's
the beautiful ring. They're surrounded by a lot of flowers,
(01:40):
and she captured it. Your English teacher and your gym
teacher are getting there. The favorite parts about this all
is the song that accompanied the post, It's So High School,
which is largely said to be written and inspired by
Travis Kelce. She released it during the course of the
Era's tour, and she performed on the ERA. So she
does this kind of like signature motion here that mirrors Travis.
I'll see what he does on the field, so there's
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some parallels there.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
So it's always fun.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
And you know how she loves to leave the the
Easter eggs saying my stomach dropped, I got phone calls.
I pulled over. I had to catch my breath because
people are that cute into their relationship.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I want to show you guys a funny clip that
actually kind of sums up like how I react to
this and how I think most every day people probably
would react to this. Take a look at this.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
What Tailor Swift get engaged? That's it? Chats do you
hear what? Taylor Swift got engaged?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
But that uh okay when we well.
Speaker 6 (02:42):
So Taylor Swifts get engaged? Congratulations? Here what get engaged?
Speaker 7 (02:48):
What?
Speaker 8 (02:49):
No?
Speaker 6 (02:50):
One last guy for you? Dude?
Speaker 8 (02:52):
No?
Speaker 6 (02:56):
What did you hear here? What gun engaged?
Speaker 8 (03:00):
I could give a fuck?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
What's all?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Bro?
Speaker 6 (03:04):
You can Tailor Swift guy gage? Who Taylor Swift engage? Yeah? Okay?
To who? What? To Kyles Kelsey? Oh yeah, okay? What
do you hear? Dot? Hear what Taylor Swift ganyage.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Gives a fun So that's me. But that's not everyone.
Some people were joyous. Some people were like angry or
enraged or immediately politicized this in weird ways like we're
going to get to Charlie Kirk. But even Trump got
asked about it, and his response was for him, surprisingly magnanimous.
(03:46):
Take a listen to him.
Speaker 9 (03:47):
The biggest popul is of the year broke while you're
in this cabin being Travis Kelcey and Tyler Swift are
engaged in the watch.
Speaker 6 (03:55):
Your reactions are, well, I wish him allowed alone.
Speaker 10 (03:59):
I think it's I think he's a great player, I
think he's a great guy, and I think that she's
a terrific person.
Speaker 6 (04:07):
So I wish the have a lot a lot.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
So, guys, now we're going to get to the part
where this story gets weird because some people just had
to make it weird, chief among them Mega superstar and
influencer Charlie Kirk, who made some eyebrow raising comments about
Taylor Swift because it started out like, okay, a little odd,
(04:30):
but then by the end was very weird, very strange. Okay,
so let's look at this first clip.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
But maybe one of the reasons why Taylor Swift has
been so just kind of annoyingly liberal over the last
couple of years is that she's not yet married and
she doesn't have children. I say this non sarcastically.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
So Charlie had to instantly politicize this, and I actually
don't think it makes a lot of sense. I think
Taylor is liberal because she inhabits a liberal industry, and
because she is a cosmopolitan and an urbanite. And it's
definitely true that some people as they get married and
have kids, become more conservative, but a lot of times
they just don't. Actually, lots of liberals and progressives and
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Democratic voters have children and families and are married, and
so it really actually doesn't tell you very much politically.
So like we're already reaching here, Charlie, really reaching, let's continue.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Taylor Swift might go from a cat lady to a JD.
Van supporter, and I think we celebrate that. I think
that Taylor Swift having two or three children, she should
have more children than she has houses. That is my
challenge Taylor Swift. And I'm not being sarcastic. I think
that if she, if she ends up having children, she'll
stop this kind of liberal endorsing Joe Biden nonsense. And
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we want, we want Taylor Swift on Team America. We
want you to leave the island of the Wokies, and
we would welcome you with open arms. One of the
reasons why so many people on the right have been
just skeptical or at least a little bit negative on
Taylor Swift is up until this point, that's not a
great role model for young women to wait all the
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way until you're thirty five and just put your career first.
We just talked about this with Katie Miller. However, there's
a great chance to change that.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
So Charlie, this is me betting you that Taylor Swift
will not in fact become a JD Fant supporter. I
could be wrong. Crazier things in the world have happened,
but that seems pretty darn unlikely to me. And just
because she has kids does not mean if she even
has kids, we don't even know if they're going to
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does not mean she will instantly stop being a liberal.
That it's not a thing most people that isn't what happens,
and I can't be the only one who found it
a little odd. How Like many conservatives immediately start to
think about her popping out a bunch of children, like,
I don't really care. If she wants kids, great, she
should have a couple of kids. If she doesn't, okay,
(07:00):
So like, why is this so important? I've seen people
suggest they it'll be like a baby boom if Taylor
Swift has children. And I could be wrong, but I
think there will not be a statistically significant change in
the US birth rate based on Taylor Swift having a baby.
I could be wrong, Crazier things have happened, but I'm
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pretty skeptical of that idea. And then I don't agree
with this idea that he suggests that we want her
on Team America. Politics is not as simple as Republicans
love America Democrats hate America. Obviously, I lean a little
bit more to the right politically, though I'm an independent
these days. But I know people left right and center
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who genuinely love our country and have their best interests
in heart, have the best interests of our country at heart,
and so I don't I really hate that idea that
this kind of you hear it from the left all
the time, where they say, oh, Republicans are all just
bad and evil. Well, oh, Democrats are against America. Some are, sure,
but many are not. And I don't think there's any
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reason to believe that Taylor Swift is anti America just
because she endorsed Joe Biden or Kamala or whatever. So
so far a little bit of cringe. Some commentary I
don't quite agree with. But this final clip of Charlie
is where things get genuinely weird. Take a listen.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
This is something that I hope will make Taylor Swift
more conservative, engage in reality more, and get outside of
the abstract clouds. Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor,
You're not in charge, and most importantly, I can't wait
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to go to a Taylor Kelsey concert. I can't say
it without laughing. You gotta change your name. If not,
you don't really mean it.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Congratulations Taylor, anyone else feel a little uncomfy right now?
I did not need Charlie Kirk staring into the camera
and telling Taylor Swift to submit. Submit to your husband,
Taylor like oh. I understand that that's part of like
traditionalist Christian wedding vows, But most people these days do
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not view marriage as a woman submitting to the leadership
of her husband, and I have a feeling that Taylor,
like many people, will view it as a partnership. And
she may change her name, she may not. She might
also change her name but then still go by Taylor
Swift for like entertainment purposes in her public persona, which
I think is totally fine. I like the idea of
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changing your name when you get married, but if you
want to continue to use the brand that you've built publicly. Great,
why wouldn't you. It doesn't mean you're not committed to
your marriage. And I'm sorry, but there's something incredibly strange
and off putting about this certain kind of male conservative
commentary where they're like instantly seeing a woman get married
(09:58):
and they're like, submit, submit to your man, your husband's
in charge. Now. It's weird. It gives very strange energy,
and I'm telling you right now that repulses women, many women,
especially younger women, from conservatism or from a Republican message,
because it sounds like you genuinely view women as beneath
you or as as like, oh, a second class of citizen,
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or they just need to shut up and do what
men tell them. It really it gives anti feminist in
the way that actually matters, not in like the oh
you're not woke, but in the way that you think
women are an underclass to men. And again, I really
have no issue if in your personal marriage you have
this like submissive dominant arrangement, knock yourself out. I probably
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don't need to hear you talk about it. I don't
really want to be included in the conversation on that.
But regardless of ge like, if that's your traditionalism, that's
your value is great. It is weird to instantly see
someone else get married like submit submit Taylor Like, I'm sorry,
it's weird. It makes me uncomfy, And I heard from
a lot of right leading women who agreed with me.
(11:08):
When I posted about this on X, Bridget Fetasy, the comedian,
wrote about Charlie, I am once again begging conservative pundits
to stop sounding like a bunch of weirdos and go
have a drink with some normal dudes at the bar.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
I agree with this. I don't know, but call me crazy,
but I don't think most men speak about their wives
as Yes, she submits to me, I am the alpha.
I also feel like if you have to constantly announce
that you're the leader, you might not actually be the leader.
I'm just saying. My friend Mary Catherine Hamm, who is
a Fox News contributor, she wrote on X that this
(11:43):
is tiresome rage bait. One of the best things about
Kelsey is that he is so demonstrably unthreatened by her
referring to Taylor. He spends his life being a modern
gladiator accomplishing feats of manly strength and courage and being
a super Bowl champion. He's good. It's a great compliment
to her. I agree with this. I think that it
actually speaks well to Travis Kelsey's character as a man
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that he doesn't feel so threatened and insecure by the
fact that Taylor is a bigger star than him, or
that she is so world famous or anything like that.
He doesn't need her to submit and just become Travis
Kelce's wife or anything like that. That's not the vibe
I get, and far from it from being some sort
of betrayal of the purpose of marriage like Charlie seems
to suggest. I actually think that's nice. I think that's
(12:27):
a good modern relationship dynamic and it's perfectly fine, and
that when people like Charlie Kirk do this, they come
off as strange. That's my take and I'm sticking to it.
But you guys can let me know what you think
in the comments below. Do make sure you're subscribed, hit
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(12:48):
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Up next, we're going to talk about a scandal taking
over the magazine Vanity Fair, which I cannot say I'm
a regular reader of not really that kind of gay.
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I'm pretty gay, but not really that kind of gay.
But anyway, Vanity Fair apparently still exists, is still a thing,
and it's embroiled in kind of an internal scandal, a
civil war, if you will, over Milania Trump, because apparently
the new editor of Vanity Fair wants to put her
(13:32):
on the cover, or at least floated the idea and
was quickly met with a revolt from woke staffers threatening
to quit in protest. Take a listen to this from
Fox News.
Speaker 9 (13:45):
Worts suggests its new boss is potentially interested in featuring
Milania as liberal outlets shift to woo the administration. Milania
was excluded from the nation's fashion magazines, including Vogue and
Vanity Fair, during her first time in the White House,
despite previous First Lady features. Michelle Obama was on twelve
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magazine covers during per eight years as the First Lady,
including three times on the cover of Vogue. But now
this potential move has employees of the fame fashion magazine
losing their minds, with some threatening to quit if the
First Lady is branded a spot on the cover.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I mean, you got to see what he says. I
will walk out of this blank, blank door.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Half my staff this according to it, who is a
mid level editor, We're.
Speaker 7 (14:33):
Not going to normalize that desk spot and his wife.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
So that's the attitude of the people you hire.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
I would say, listen, if you're going to walk out
because you don't like my cover, you don't understand who
the boss is, you should leave.
Speaker 9 (14:45):
She's a Vogue before she became First Lady, and.
Speaker 7 (14:49):
Fashion is She's at the top of the fashion industry
and has been for decades. But I love that our
editor says that. And she speaks with her clothes in
a way like I don't get clothes, but she speaks
and like I get. I look at her clothes and
I'm like, oh wow, that's a sociation.
Speaker 9 (15:06):
And she speaks how many languages.
Speaker 7 (15:08):
She's so large, right, But I love that this editor says,
if I have to work bagging groceries and Trader Joe's,
I'll do it.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
I would far rather work at Trader Joe's. Trader Joe's
is a great place to work.
Speaker 7 (15:18):
I think it's fun to it's fun to show you're
always very friendly.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
The quotes from the reporting about this are really quite something.
So reading from the post Millennial here, this is one
of the staffers speaking, we are not going to normalize
this death spot and his wife. We're just not going
to do it. We're gonna stand for what's right. If
I have to work bagging groceries at Trader Joe's, I'll
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do it. If Gudici, the editor, puts Malani on the cover,
half of the editorial staff will walk out. I guarantee it,
the staffer, who remained anonymous said. Another employee, though, offered
a different perspective and said, it's all talk. If they
put her on the cover, people will protest and grape
about it, but I don't see anyone quitting such a
prestigious job over that. Honestly, there will be people who
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push back, but ultimately it's Mark's decision. He's the one
who will sink or swim over that choice, not the
rest of us. There are so many layers to this controversy.
I guess you have to call it that are so
ridiculous and so antithetical to journalism. I also love the
casual elitism, as if these Vanity Fair writers to think
they're above the plebs who bag groceries at Trader Joe's.
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I actually appreciate them and respect the work they do,
and I acknowledge that it's important, And I don't think
I'm better than them just because I work on a
laptop and they work at a grocery store counter. But
that is absolutely how many mainstream media figures feel they
got some fancy degree where they've frankly was probably a
joke anyway, And they work at one of these elite institutions,
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and they look down on working class Americans so much
that they use them as an example of what they
would do if they took a brave, bold stand. Yeah,
because the Trump administration is really never going to recover
from Vanity Fair staffers walking out over a magazine cover.
It's like, do these people think they actually the self
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importance is so unreal. Maybe Vanity Fair used to be
very relevant, used to be like a big deal. It's
certainly not anymore in the modern culture or the modern
cultural zeitgeist. So for these people to think they're like
doing their big one, Oh we'll all walk out? Oh no,
how would Milania ever recover? How would President Trump's administration
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continue without your support? Like they really think they're so
important even though they're literally irrelevant. It's almost funny. But
I actually agree with the second guy. I think you
might get a couple like true believers who would storm out,
And as far as I'm considered, as I could see it,
I would say, don't let the door hit you, please go.
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But I bet a lot of them would just complain
about it and stick around because they don't want to
give up their cushy jobs. What I suspect. That's my
working theory on that. And what I'll say is this
as well, not for me to speak on style or
anything like that. I mean my boyfriend literally when we
got together, he had to slowly start disappearing my outfits
and replacing them with new clothes because they looked bad
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like some of my old friends that I have from
before we started dating six six years ago. Literally did
we joke about it because I used to wear the
same like three things like the same ratty blue and
gray under armor sweatshirt. They could always pick me out
of a crowd. What I what my boyfriend did is like,
I don't know, six months or a year into dating,
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he just was doing my laundry and they disappeared and
I didn't notice, And then like a year later, I'm like, hey,
where's my sweatshirt and he's like, yeah, I threw that
out last February. So far from me to speak on
style or to claim any sort of expertise in this,
but I kind of think that the same way Vanity
Fair and these other magazines have put like all the
other modern first ladies on the cup her Millenia is
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actually pretty darn stylish and kind of glorious and rather glamorous,
that is, And I think she's kind of iconic. I actually,
obviously I'm pretty critical of Trump, but I actually like her,
and I think she's I don't see any reason she's
like a bad first lady or anything like that. She
was a wasn't she a supermodel? I mean, so the
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idea that she shouldn't be on the front of cover
of Vanity Fair when the other first ladies who aren't
don't have her background in you know, modeling and glamour
and all this stuff. Again, I'm way out of my
lane here, but I'm saying it seems pretty clear to
me she belongs on the cover as well. If they
always put the first Lady on the cover, why wouldn't
they do it for her, unless, of course they think
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that like, you don't count, you're not the first Lady.
If the writers at Vanity Fair don't agree with your
husband's politics, it just doesn't even make any sense. Your
job is to like represent American fashion and discourse, and
the First Lady is a big part of that, whether
you like them or not. So what's crazy about this
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is like they could even do a cover and then
have the story be like critical or skeptical in some way.
But these people really object to even acknowledging the existence
of culturally significant conservative people, in this case women, in
a way that I find really bizarre and incredibly arrogant.
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Like Milania is still more relevant than every single one
of you times a thousand combined, Yet they think, well,
we won't bestow upon her the gift of Vanity Fair
covered them because she's part of the bad people. She
probably wouldn't even do it at this point, if we're
so honest, like this whole story assumes she would do it,
(20:49):
which I don't even know that she would. But they're
so presemptuous, they're so arrogant, and they fundamentally just wreak
of disdain for the country who's citizens they rely on
to keep their business running. I think this story is wild,
and I think that it kind of perfectly encapsulates the
rot of mainstream and establishment media that has led to
(21:11):
its demise. Other than that, though they're doing great over
a vanity fair. Okay, one final story to talk about today,
Fat TikTok fat positivity TikTok. That is, they're not happy.
They're very upset with a certain celebrity and superstar athlete,
Serena Williams, the legendary tennis player, because she dare do
(21:32):
a commercial promoting GLP ones, you know, those medications that
millions of people are taking to get healthier and lose
weight and feel better about themselves and solve their health issues.
That is evil and dastardly thing to do in the
mind of these fat positivity activists that somehow still have
these large presences on TikTok. Anyway, I'm going to show
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you the commercial first that she did for ROW, which,
by the way, Row hit me up, sponsor me, I
would love to promote some antibody positivity medications. Hit me
up anyway. Serena Williams did this collaboration with Roe. Here's
that commercial that has certain sectors of the Internet up
in arms.
Speaker 8 (22:15):
Yes, I'm on ROW. They say golp Ones for weight
loss is a shortcut.
Speaker 7 (22:23):
It's not.
Speaker 8 (22:23):
It's science after kids, It's a medicine. My body needed.
Gop One's helped me lose thirty one pounds. One app
to hit my goals. This is healthcare, this is Roe.
I'm Serena Williams and I'm a real ROW member.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Now, guys, prepare yourself because we're going to react to
some tiktoks that I compiled. And it's some of the
most unhinged discourse I have seen in the minute. It's
giving Sydney Sweeney actually like that whole dumb controversy, But honestly,
this might be like even less reasonable than the people
who crashed out over that. Let's listen to this first clip.
Speaker 10 (23:05):
First of all, I want to acknowledge my privileges. I'm
a thin white woman. I can't even pretend to know
what it's like for a black woman or black women
in larger bodies to understand the discrimination the oppression that
they go through.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
I can't pretend to know that.
Speaker 10 (23:21):
But what I can do is I can state my
thoughts and opinions as someone who supports people in making
peace with food and their body and in all size bodies.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Right where.
Speaker 10 (23:33):
That's where I'm coming from. If she can't accept her body,
this is where I think of everyone else that internalizes that,
And it's like, how do any of us stand a chance?
If the greatest of all time can't accept her body,
how do we stand a chance?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Oh my gosh, guys, I'm so sorry I forgot to
start this segment with a disclaimer about my privilege as
a white, able bodied cisgendered. I almost said heterosexual, because
that's the part of the buzzword, but not quite that part.
White male who occupies a body of thinness, who suffers
(24:14):
from extreme pretty privilege. Oh my gosh, how exhausting it
must be to go through the world like this, constantly
flagellating yourself for your immutable characteristics and suggesting that your
opinion or perspective is somehow less valid, absolutely wild. But
also I love this woman. She's like a I don't know,
pro fat activist or whatever. On TikTok, She's like, I
(24:34):
help people feel comfortable in their bodies at any size, sorry,
but morbidly obese people for their own sake and their
own health. You shouldn't be making them, helping them become
content with their bodies. Should be helping them change their
bodies and improve their health. Should never bully people, Never
shame people. That's not a good thing to do. It's
not even productive, doesn't even help, probably often makes the
(24:55):
problem worse. But you shouldn't be helping people become comfortable
in unhealthy states that are bad for them mentally, emotionally, spiritually, physically,
and beyond. So kind of crazy, and I think she's
taking the absolute wrong message from the actual commercial. The
message is that like, look, I'm Serena Williams, and I
(25:16):
had a couple of kids, and I had trouble losing
weight even and I need help. There's no shame in
needing help. Even someone like me needed help to be healthier,
and so I took GLP ones and you can too.
Check now with row to get your coverage. Whatever. That's
not a bad message. That's a good message. You're helping
people get healthier. What's wrong with that? That seems like
great to me. I would give her a round of
(25:38):
applause for that. But maybe that's my white able body
then privilege showing or something. I don't know. Let's look
at the next club.
Speaker 11 (25:46):
Cults love to keep people skinny. Serena Williams has been
sharing her journey with GLP ones and promoting the telehealth
company Row that her husband is an investor in. People
really feel like this is a return to conservative values
and a sign that finn is in is very much
a thing.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Again, did this woke up lady? Really? Just say wanting
to be thin and fit and healthy is conservative values.
You are not doing your side of favors. Love you
are You're like owning yourself. You're saying that being fat
(26:22):
and unhealthy is like liberal values or progressive values. Are
you sure that's what you want to go with? You're
gonna stick to that one. I don't know what to say.
And they keep bringing up this point. Oh, her husband
is an investor in the company, so they profit off
of it. So they literally just think profit equals bad.
Profit can be bad if you're like exploiting someone or
(26:45):
harming someone or defrauding people. But if you are providing
access to a product that makes people healthier and happier
and you're making money off of that, that is called
a win win. There's no shame in that. Oh, she's
making money off of it. Great. I hope she gets
a bag and helps America get healthier in the process.
(27:07):
Sounds great to me. They really are not coping well
on TikTok with this development. Take a look at this
next video.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
The mask is off.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
We have officially stopped pretending it's really just about health,
and now weight less drugs are being promoted by an
extremely fit, extremely accomplished professional athlete. We're in a very
hopeless moment and everyone's kind of given up on changing society.
There were a lot of flaws of the body positivity movement.
We all kind of realized that, I think, and ultimately
(27:36):
fat phobia was not defeated.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Why would we want to defeat fat phobia? That's not
even a real thing. But it's the extent that people
are afraid of being fat. That makes sense because it's
bad for you and it contributes to all of the
leading causes of death in America. So but on her
actual point that like even that even Serena Williams, who
(27:59):
is so fit, taking it, No, that's not the point.
They don't. The point went over totally over their heads.
Serena Williams talked about the fact that she lost thirty
one pounds. She had a fair amount of extra weight
that she really struggled to lose after multiple pregnancies and
it was causing health issues. So she said in an
interview with The Today Show that since starting the medication,
(28:20):
she's already seen and felt her health improve. At a
recent doctor's visit, she was told her blood sugar levels
have normalized, and she says her joints feel lighter, like
they're not taking as much of a load. She said,
I had a lot of knee issues, especially after I
had my kid, and I was never able to get
to my normal levels of weight. Reflecting on her health
goals when starting a GLP one, she also points out
that African Americans have an increased risk of diabetes. It's
(28:43):
definitely around in my family, and I really just wanted
to look deeper. She explains. Williams's hope for the multi
year campaign is to normalize use of GLP one medications
for weight loss and help others live healthier lives. So
she did have actual health issues, she did have weight
to lose, and she's showing America, particularly women who look
up to her and maybe Black women who again, these
(29:04):
health issues are more prevalent in those communities, and if
you really care about them, you should want them to
do better and thrive, not try to normalize diabetes or whatever.
And I think that's great. She was able to improve
her health. So they're lying when they say it wasn't
even about health, because she needed it. Know, the whole
point is that she needed it. Now. The contrary thing, though,
(29:26):
is that even if it wasn't about health, even if
it was just wanting to look good and feel better
about yourself, that's also fine and good to a point. Obviously,
you know, you can become too obsessed with totally unrealistic
body standards, with you know, developed disorders and other such things,
so obviously there's a limit to that. But just wanting
to be slim and attractive and feel good about your
(29:47):
body isn't bad. It's not. And these people seem to
just assume that it is. Of course, they also had
to make it about race, because they just do that
with everything always by default into this.
Speaker 12 (30:00):
So like fat phobia is not a chronic issue in
our society, then then why does one of the greatest
athletes of all time of our generation feel that she
needs pharmaceutical intervention by way of a GLP one in
order to lose weight and become skinny. What I hate
about GLP ones in the way that they're being used
(30:22):
is that it seems like fatness is a universal problem
that everyone should want to fix.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yes, obesity is bad for you, so anyone who's obese
should want to fix that. Are we just science deniers now?
Total reality deniers? And it's wild because she just totally
ignored the fact that Serena specifically did this in part
to lower her blood sugar avoid getting diabetes, which runs
(30:53):
in her family, and because, as she talked about on
the Today's Show, she was having joint issues related to
excessive body weight that she had thirty one pounds that
she lost that she struggled to lose without the medications
after childbirth. All of that is totally valid, and just
because you're triggered by it doesn't mean she did anything
(31:14):
wrong at all. Theirs, of course, more.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Star athlete Serena Williams promoting a weight loss drug was
certainly not on my twenty twenty five bingo card, and frankly,
I find it to be deeply unsettling. Before I say
anything else, I want to admit that I don't really
understand how GOP wants work. I'm not educated on the subject.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
And then shut up. Why are you speaking? I hate
that they do this, TikTokers this all the time. I'm
not really educated on those, but then they keep talking.
I don't fix my mouth to speak about things that
I don't know anything about. Call me crazy, that's my
personal strategy. And she admits you she knows nothing about
the subject, then also has some wild takes like this.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
Listen, Yeah, it's bothersome deeply bothers arise in. Fat phobia
within our culture does not just come with the normalization
of Internet subcultures like skinny talk. It also comes with bigotry,
because at the end of the day, fat phobia isn't
just a fear of being fat, it's a fear of
the black body.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Uh oh. I love how we're conflating obesity with the
black body. And these are the woke people, these are
the anti racists black people. I mean, there's some differences
in bodies of course between races, but like, nothing about
being black means your body is inherently fat or obese.
(32:39):
Tons of white people are obese in this country. You've
ever been to a cracker barrel. It's not about black
bodies white bodies. Everybody should want to be a healthy way,
and it's an epidemic in America. But yet these people
have tried to make it into some sort of marginalized
identity in the intersectional oppression Olympics, bullshit, NonStop stuff that
(33:00):
they pull. It's actually horrible, it's actually really really bad
for our country, and they are misleading people. Whereas Serena
is helping people get healthier and making a bag while
she's at it. If you ask me, that's a pretty badass.
And that's something good, not something so problematic that it
needs a whole TikTok discourse around it. That's my hot take.
But what do you guys think? Let me know in
(33:22):
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