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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The transman groped me, but then acted like he was
the victim. We're gonna react to this and all your
other woe kar stories, personal life situations and questions that
you guys sent in for me in this voicemail Friday
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episode of the Brad Versus Everyone podcast, my daily show
where we take on the craziest ideas from across the Internet,
our media, and our politics, all from an independent perspective.
On Fridays, I take your voicemails with your crazy stories
that have happened to you and other stuff you want
to tell me about, and I give you my honest
responses and reaction. The link to send one of those
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in is in the description. First, guys, we're gonna hear
a really kind of disturbing story about somebody who was
touched inappropriately by a trans man who then had the
audacity to play the victim after doing this. Let's take
a listen.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Hi, Brad, I'm just gonna use a fake name. I'm
just gonna say John. I'm sorry, but I kind of
don't want this trace back to me because it's a
little bit embarrassing. This was about a year ago. At
this point, I went out with some of my friends.
We went to a club and we're obviously not so
we we're at a club, right, and this woman comes
up to who I thought was a woman and offered
to buy me a drink. I'm not gonna say no, right,
so I take the drink, I sit down. We have
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a conversation, and I feel the hand wrap around my shoulder.
So I very kindly let this person know, like, hey,
I'm gay. I'm sorry, but like, I'm not attracted to you,
but I would love to be friends. This person responds
by saying, I'm a trans man. They look imagine like
Lily Tino if Lily Tino was female transitioning to male.
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That's what they looked like. Essentially, not trans at all.
After that whole debacle, nothing bad ended up happening. They
just walked away. I was on the dance floor and
I felt someone come up to me and fully grope
my crotch and squeeze. I turned around with my elbow
out and I hooked this person in the face and
I screamed, very loudly, what the are you doing? Long
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story short, I never kicked out of the club because
this person made a huge think about me being transphobic.
When I complained to security on the way out, one
of them laughed in my face. I did end up
getting him fired. I took a video and I ended
up getting him fired later. I just want to know
why these people think they're so untouchable. I can't help
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but think if I did that to a woman, I
would be facing years in jail.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Wow, there's a lot to talk about in that story.
But first time, I'm really sorry that happened to you.
There's like a weird particularly with gay men. They think
sometimes people think it's okay to just like touch you,
and this is something gay men do to other gay men,
like we'll just grop you when it's no big deal.
I actually think it is, and I think people should
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respect people's boundaries a little bit more, especially in this case.
It is. I mean, it's never really appropriate to just
go up and grab somebody. But you already told this
person you weren't interested, and then they went up to
you and groped your jam. That's a crime, babe, Yeah,
that's a crime. So I'm really sorry that happened to you.
This person should absolutely have gotten in trouble for it,
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not gotten you in trouble, and I hate this weaponization
of identity, Like it really doesn't matter if your trans
or not. You can't do that to people. And when
you do, you're not the victim. Some people, and this
is the thing they're really It's not that trans people
are more likely to be predators or anything like that.
That's not statistically born out. But the problem is that
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some predators will claim to be trans and then do
stuff like this, and maybe that applies to this person.
I honestly don't know. I do find it interesting that
they would be like, oh, when you said, oh, I'm gay, Sorry,
I'm not interested, they'd be like, oh, it's okay, I'm
a trans man. I'd be like, yeah, read my previous email.
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I'm gay, not interested. That's what that means, especially if
you I mean, it'd be one thing if they were
very you know, transitioned and passing and looked just like
a man. Even then a lot of gay men wouldn't
be interested for obvious reasons, but some might who are
maybe a little bit on the by spectrum or a
little bit more flexible or open minded. But when you're
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literally just still look like a woman, to be like, oh,
it's Okay, I'm a trans man. You should still be interested, y'all.
Do not understand you're still thinking like a female. If
you think that's how men work, Oh well, I've told
you something different about how I feel inside, so that
should change whether you're attracted to me or not. That's
not how men work. It's simply not. And it's unfortunate
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because I think that a lot of this entitlement and
a lot of this overreach on the gender stuff really
rubs people the wrong way.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I shouldn't, Yeah, shouldn't have said it like that in
this one, But it really does rub people the wrong way,
and it leads to a lot of backlash and resistance
and resentment, even from gay men, even from lesbians, even
from people who are very sympathetic to the idea of
letting people live how will make them happiest and letting
ignore knowledging people's differences. You can only push so far,
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and some of them have pushed and groped simply beyond
the point of any reasonable person accepting it or putting
up with it. So now they're finding out the hard way,
and that's unfortunate, and it's really unfortunate that you were
subjected to this. I'm really sorry I had to go
through that, but thank you for sharing. And guys, if
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you want to send in your story, remember the link
is in the description. I love hearing from you.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Make sure you subscribe to who Aren't yet and do
hit that like button while you're at it, because we've
got so many more crazy things to talk about today.
Up next a really interesting one. This woman got in
trouble as a teenager for blackface, but like, that is
not what happened at all, and it just all shows
the absurdity of the time that we lived in. And
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take a listen to this.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Hey, Brad, here's fan of the show. Here is a
story about the time I got black face allegations when
I was fifteen years old. So this was like early
twenty twenty. Social just attension was very high, but lockdowns
hadn't fully started yet. I met a sleepover with my
friends and face paint comes out and I put the
face paint on and everybody then and this time to
wash it off, but it was very thick, keyp pain.
I had all tends to colors on my face. When
I'm watching it off, it kind of turns into a
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homogeneous brown color all over my face, and everyone's freaking
out and thinks it's funny because I didn't need to
make my face brown and I'm trying as hard as
I can to get it off and it won't come off.
But anyway, somebody snaps a picture, and then a couple
months later, the girl who took the picture, she's in
kind of hot water for something that she said, so
she leaks this picture to try and bt the attention
onto me, and I got allegations for months about me
being a terrible person doing black face when it was
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just a misunderstanding.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
That is actually insane and it is just so psychotic,
but actually, sadly kind of not that atypical in the
canceled culture madness that we live through, that somebody would
sit on that kind of in this case like very
fake but receipts about you, and then when they get
in trouble themselves, release that to like distract from it.
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But that's so ugh, that's so disgusting to me. Everything
about that is terrible. But we see that a lot
like I think of this when I see these stories
about a kid get getting their college acceptance revoked or
their scholarship revoked or their you know, offer letter for
athletics or something revoked because somebody released a video of
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them from years back singing the N word in a
song or something. I'm like, I obviously, I think it's
unfair and ridiculous on its own terms, because you know,
people are young and stupid and just do things, and
it's not the end of the world, and people grow
and change. But I always wonder about the psychology of
the person that takes a screen recording of a snapchat story,
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sits on it for years, and then sees somebody else
thriving and releases it to take them down, Like in
my head, in my view, you have to be kind
of sick in the head to do that. You have
to be really in a dark place yourself where you
just want to tear down others because it doesn't make
your life any better and you're not actually addressing some
cosmic injustice or anything like that. It's just really gross
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and it sounds like that's kind of what happened here.
And I just think on the blackface thing, we've totally
lost the plot to the point where obviously you shouldn't
do blackface to mock black people. That's wrong, that's racist,
and obviously we shouldn't do that. But the panic over
blackface has come to encompass people whose faces happened to
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be colored or shaded in any sort of way. But
then it wasn't being done to mock black people. It's
like a face mask, or it's a paint that face
paint that blurred, like you're saying. And that's why I
always come back to what should matter is the intent.
But then in the cancel culture madness, intent was discarded
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and impact, by which they just mean how emotionally unbalanced
people talked about it on Twitter is what really counts,
not intent. I actually think intent is the most important
thing of all in this, and you had no ill intent,
so frankly, nobody should have ever given you a hard
time about it, And I'm sorry you had to go
through that, but it's sadly not that atypical of a
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lot of the absurdity folks had to live with. Well,
what do you guys think? Have you heard similar stories
to this? Let me know in the comments. Next we're
gonna hear from somebody who had a bad experience with
a vendor in Canada. Given all the political chaos and
bad relations going on between the Trump administration and Canada.
Right now, let's take a listen to this.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Hey Brad, this is me Lannie. I'm one of your
mini fans. I like watching your show. This was just
my will core story that happened to me more recently
that I wanted to share. I had recently bought something
off of ets and reached out to the seller in
regards to tracking shipment info. It was late, and so
I just wanted an update on it, and they, basically
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because it was from Canada, just came right out the gate.
I didn't bring politics or anything up. I was just like, hey,
do you have any updates? I don't see any updates
on ups or usps, and I don't see any updates
on the Etsy app. I was just wondering if you
might have some information that I don't. And they basically
were like, well nice at first, you know what I mean,
Like the first portion of their message was really nice,
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like oh yeah, like I sent it through the way
that you requested, you know, and so it has been shipped.
But then they went on to say like your orange
hair dictator is the reason, so you can thank Caim blah,
blah blah blah, basically bringing in politics, and so all
I did was say, like, hey, I would really appreciate
it if you could refrain from politics. I don't even
care whether or not I agree with them or not.
(10:38):
In my personal opinion, I just think that you should
keep those out of it. So what do you think?
Do you think that seller should be inserting their politics
unnecessarily into a conversation where it's not necessary. I didn't
know this person personally, they don't know me, so.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, no, no, I do not think they should be
doing that. Like it's iabolical, the extent of which people
just don't want to do their jobs anymore. I'm reminded of.
On the other day on the podcast, we talked about
the Texas phone bands and this principal complaining that she
has to our administration's gonna have to print out schedules
for the kids now because they can't use their phones.
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It's like, yes, I'm so sorry that you have to
do your job. I don't know what to tell you.
I have the same feeling about this Etsy person. It's like, yeah,
I selling things internationally involves navigating international trade and issues
that come up, and I think it would be totally fair,
for example, because you should know the consequences of Trump's policy,
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some of which I agree with, some of which I don't,
and I actually disagree with a lot of his trade
war with Canada. If a tariff was affecting, for example,
the cost of your good and there was an additional
fee that was labeled, you know, tariff costs, or if
the package was delayed because of some policy, I think
it would be totally fair for the person to inform you, hey,
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that is why this is delayed. It's because of this policy.
It should take about three weeks to sort through. We're
working on it as fast as we can. It's not like, oh,
they can't ever mention anything political or related to Trump.
But it shouldn't just be them injecting their personal feelings
and ramblings into a business transaction. That is unprofessional and
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it unhinged, and yeah, no, people should not be doing that.
And in fact, if they really just wanted to get
through to people that maybe did vote for Trump or
support Trump and be like, hey, these policies are affecting you.
As soon as they start saying your orange dictator, anybody
who is at all sympathetic to Trump is going to
tune them out, So what they really should just say
is just calmly, dispassionately, Yes, this is what's happening because
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of this policy from the administration. This will be delayed
by this amount, this will be this additional expense. If
they communicated it that way, they could actually potentially get
through to some people that like, hey, what's Trump doing?
Like this isn't good, but they just can't help themselves.
They just can help themselves. It's a reoccurring theme. What
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do you guys think have you encountered this with international
business transactions? Genuinely very curious because I know a lot
of people work in jobs or engage in different transactions
where they're talking to people from across the world, and
I know a lot of people outside of America have
strong feelings about Trump. I know they do. Next, we're
gonna hear from somebody who has a question about my
take on the Texas law banning phones in public schools.
(13:28):
Let's take a listen to that.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
Hi, Brad, my name is Brayden. I'm currently a senior,
and I've been a fan of yours since sophomore year,
and I just got finished watching one of your videos
over the new Texas law about phones, and I was
wondering your thoughts on maybe retweaking the law, as in
just adding some little things here and there, such as
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us teachers can decide after an assignment, after their curriculum
for the day, whether or not students can socialize or
be on their phone since it's their classroom, and maybe
like a two warning system where instead of immediately snatching
or taking away the phone, you get like two strikes,
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and then the second time you're shooting with the phone,
then you get it taken away or maybe even detention
or sent to the office. I've just been noticing that
a bunch of my friends and classmates have been upset
about it just because they think it sounds unreasonable. So
I'm thinking that maybe if we make it sound more reasonable,
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then less students will be upset about it and will
be more likely to agree with it like I do. Anyway,
let me know your thoughts and let me know if
I'm just being a little biased. Hope your day is good.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Well, thank you, and thanks for the note. I totally
got what you're saying. I wouldn't be against tweaking the
policies a little bit. Here or there. But I actually
I'm not sure that making these changes would make a
lot of sense, because, for example, letting teachers decide, okay,
I can go on your phones but in the last
few minutes before the bell rings or whatever, I actually
think it's probably better to just take that out of
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out of the equation entirely. And you know what, kids
can talk, or they can just sit for a moment
or two without stimulation, without a phone, without a screen buzzing.
I you know, it's that's actually what something humans are
supposed to be able to do. I find myself I
struggle with this. I always have a podcast in or
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I'm talking to it, either talking to someone or doing something,
or if not, I'm listening to something or watching something
while I do something else. And so what I do
is an you know, a little bit of Florida privilege here.
I try to swim in the evening at like four
thirty or five o'clock for like half an hour, and
I just go out in the pool at my hotel
or not my hotel, my apartment complex. And I don't
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have anything in I don't have a podcast playing, I
don't have my phone. I just sit with my own
thoughts and relax and try to stop the never ending
like notifications and thoughts and everything. And actually, I think
kids should probably be forced to do that. It's probably
healthy and good, and so I don't really think they
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need to make that change as far as you know,
a two strike rule or whatever. I get what you're saying,
but I think to make such an extreme shift, you're
probably going to have to have a pretty strict policy,
at least at first to get people to actually go
along with it. And I'm not sure how you would track,
you know, your strikes, Like if one teacher gives you
a strike early in the day and the next second
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time in the afternoon. I think you're probably just gonna
have to be pretty draconian about it at first. And
I totally get it. Kids are going to bristle at it,
they're not going to be thrilled about it, but ultimately
I think it's it's probably in their best interests. What
do you guys think, especially if you have any kids
or you're a kid yourself that are going through this
phone detoxing forced phone detoxing in schools, I think have
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empathy for people.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I know.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I would really struggle to do it myself. I'm working
on it on my own addiction and screen time and
everything too. I really think it's going to be for
our own everyone's best interest in the long run. What
do you guys think? Do let me know. Okay, up next,
we're gonna hear from somebody who's liberal, anti Trump neighbor
threatened to call Ice on their mom. Make it makes
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sense you can't. Let's take a listen to this crazy story.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Hey, Brad, I really like your show. I love how
you always have such a levelhead about everything. The story
I'm telling is about this crazy liberal neighbor we have.
She does not like Trump, she's not conservative, but she
threatened to call Ice on my mom, assuming that she
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is an illegal immigrant because she's Mexican. And obviously this
offended my mom greatly because not only is she a
legal immigrant, she is also a citizen and served in
the military. So yes, this neighbor. I was shocked when
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I heard this. She was claiming my mom needed to
get taken away. And you know, she called the cops
on us because she saw my mom in the street
in front of her house, which she did not like.
And I was especially shocked because I did not expect
it to come from someone who was biracial like me.
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I'm half white, half Mexican. This neighbor that once my
mom deported is half black, half white, but she's clearly
a Karen.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah, I mean, you can say that again. But it
is funny. How quick you know a liberal anti Trump
person sees a Mexican person assumes they must be illegal. Yeah,
that would be called racism. But I think this stuff,
and you're like, oh, it's surprising to me that a
mixed race person would think like this. It all makes
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sense when you realize that people don't make sense, when
you realize that most people don't actually have coherent worldviews
or political ideologies that are internally consistent. They just have
a number of tribal affiliations and biases and a few
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issues where they have strong feelings, and then the rest
is kind of just them mentally filling in the blanks.
And that's not even shade, that's not even an insult.
I don't expect the average person to have thought about
things that deeply or considered their position on every issue,
But actually you encounter this kind of thing more than
you think. You also encounter on the Republican side, like
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somebody who's you know, a staunch right wing Christian Republican
but pro choice or you know, pro trans kids or
whatever like the that doesn't make sense with the internally
consistent political philosophy you would expect. You actually encounter that
a lot in the real world because people are complicated
and they're not purely logical or philosophical beings. They are
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prone to different forms of bias and emotion and frankly
can just be chaotic. And it sounds like that's what
you encountered here. But I'm sorry because you should not
have to go through that. And yeah, that's not okay,
and it's certainly not liberal or progressive in any sense
of those words. That's remotely meaningful. Okay, I'm next, we're
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going to hear about another trans person crashing out for
no real reason. Shocker. I mean, lots of y'all are chill,
don't get me wrong, but you have a problem. The
trans community has a problem with very unchill people giving
it a bad name. And that's what's happening in many
of these situations, including the one we're about to listen to.
Speaker 7 (20:56):
Take a listen, Hi, Brad, my name's Brianna. I'm a
huge fan Wokrror story takes place in twenty nineteen. I
was the only server at a little hole in the wall,
authentic Chinese family owned restaurant, and one day at lunchtime,
three people walked in, one of whom was a very
non passing trans woman. But I'll always respect anyone's pronouns
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if I can clearly see what they're trying to convey.
So I walked up to the table to take their order,
and I said, what can I get you guys? Oh
my god, did she lose her mind on me? She
was so upset, I said, you guys, when clearly I
didn't mean it that way, and I made it very
clear to I apologized, I let her know I didn't
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mean anything by that, and then I call everybody, you guys,
And she ended up becoming a regular of ours, and
I really did like her as a person. But that
was kind of at the what I feel like is
the start of the like woke madness, and I'll just
never forget that, getting getting my head schewed off for
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saying you guys. So anyway, thank you so much for
your time and for what you do. I appreciate you.
It's great to see your success.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
Brad.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
Have a great day.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Well, I had no idea my fans were such biggot
and horrible people. Nah, I'm just kidding. Thank you for
tuning in for your support. You did nothing wrong. I'm
getting triggering flashbacks here because remember, I know if you're
a regular listener, you already know this. You've probably heard
this story, but bear with me. I went to a
super wo college and I literally got written up and
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threatened with termination from my student newspaper because I said
about a colleague who identified as non binary that they
sounded like the boy who Cried Wolf. And of course
it was a boy. It was a guy, though usually
non binary is females actually, but in this case, it
was a male who identified as non binary but totally
looked like a guy and still acted like a whiny
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gay bitch, which is what he was. But anyway, he
he got so offended that I used the phrase boy
who Cried Wolf to describe him. And it's like, bro,
it's literally a phrase. It's a I don't know exactly
what you would even call that, but it's a thing.
People say. It's about boys, girls, everyone because you're referring
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to the parable about the boy who cried wolf right,
And I was literally told that I had done a microaggression,
that I if I happened again, I would be fired,
that I was making the place unsafe. And you know
now years later, and at the time, I was so
horrified because I tried to, you know, respect you thole's pronouns.
And now I'm like, I just don't care. I don't
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really care if you're upset. I have fatigue. I have
pronouns fatigue. I have non binary fatigue, all right. So
I think they may not realize that that they have
created this atmosphere where even people who meant well and
tried to be nice no longer given a f And honestly, like,
that's how I would feel in your situation. Yeah, okay.
(23:58):
The fact that they over policed people to the point
of that is so insane that people stop caring and
they're like, you know what, You're gonna find some reason
to be upset anyway. So I'm not even gonna bother
to try. And I don't really think that's even better
for them that we're here now, in this place that
we're in on this issue and on this discourse that's
genuinely so toxic in so many ways. And it also
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your story that you recounted to me. It greeks of insecurity.
I don't know, if you really believe you're a woman,
you would not be invalidated to the point of being
so distraught by somebody collectively saying to a group of people,
hey you guys, or hey guys. Because again, it's like
a person actually sound in their own internal sense of
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self like that who believes their identity doesn't freak out
over every minor perceived, not even or hallucinated in this case,
invalidation of set identity, because if you're actually secure, you
just roll with it, you know. So a lot of
it comes from insecurity. But unfortunately, I think it's had
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the opposite of the intended effect. If their goal in
you know, if they'll kind of woke speech police's goal
and kind of hyper policing people's language like this was
to get people to comply more or accommodate more, it's
definitely had the opposite effect. And I really can't blame people.
I simply cannot. But what do you guys think have
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you had situations like this? Let me know in the comments.
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