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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Getting threatened by a trans friend, receiving threats just for
being pro life, and they're pushing non binary ideology in schools. Now,
all this and so much more as coming up in
today's Voicemail Friday episode of The Bread Versus Everyone Podcast,
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my daily show where we take on the craziest ideas
from across the Internet, media and our politics, all from
an independent perspective. On Fridays, I take your voice notes
with your wold car stories, your personal life situations and scenarios,
and your questions for me, and I listen to them
and respond and give my thoughts. So the link to
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send one of those in is in the description. And Guys,
before we get into things, I do want to apologize
about not bringing you a Thursday show. I'm traveling for
a bachelor party and my schedule just got too chaotic
and I had to kind of prioritize other things. So
apologies about that. But we will be back to our
normal scheduled programming next week. Now, up, first, we're gonna
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hear a voicemail from somebody who was repeatedly threatened by
trans classmate who seems to think that that's okay or
acceptable behavior. Really not sure, why, but we're going to
find out.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Let's listen, Hey, Brad, just in case if you got
my name wrong, my name is pronounced Isaiah. Anyway, back
in high school, when I was in high school, I
was going out for a Robin Hood play. I wanted
to be Prince John, but I later got the fire
Tuck role, which is actually a better role for me,
but thank goodness, I didn't shave my head. Anyway. When
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I told another person who was auditioning that I wanted
to Prince John, they kept saying, oh, man, if you
get that role, I'm going to kill you. Like I'm
literally going to kill you. And obviously, when somebody says
that they're going.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
To kill you, you.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Feel threatened and you feel unsafe. So I told the
casting director what happened. They're like, this is not something
that should happened, and they later banned that person. I
misgendered this person one time, called it she, but later
they were like, I am a he when they had
long hair, makeup and a skirt on. Later on, when
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uh uh, when she came over, it's like, hey, bro,
you why did you get me banned? Told them I'm joking,
and I told them I'm sorry, but don't you realize
that saying I'm going to kill you is actually a
bad thing to say to another person that is an
actual threat. And uh yeah, that person's been angry at
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me since then, and I'm glad I don't deal with
that anymore. So what do you think about this? Brad?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Wow? Thanks for the note and for sharing this story.
I certainly have thoughts. First though, what is it with
y'all and your drama clubs always having drama and crazy
stuff going down? I was not a drama kid. My
boyfriend did theater, so he was in a bunch of
musicals and plays and stuff. I did not do any
theater in high school. I played sports. I did mock trial,
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so I was a little nerdy, but I didn't. It's
not like I'm too cool for theater. I just didn't
do it. It wasn't my experience. Is it really this dramatic? Always?
Are there always these feuds and these fights? And it
is the gender stuff always such a big aspect of it.
I'm curious if that's new because we've heard a bunch
of stories like this. But first off, I mean, it's
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not okay to threaten someone just repeatedly to tell them
you're going to kill them in school, in a workplace,
in life. That's not acceptable behavior. So you were not
in the wrong for reporting this person. As for the misgendering,
I mean, listen, first off, you have every right to
misgender someone if you so choose. That is your free speech.
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Now I would probably accommodate in some circumstances people, but
if you're demanding he him pronouns, but you are presenting
with long hair and makeup and all this, that's not
super reasonable. And you don't really have a right to
get mad at people who don't use your correct pronouns
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in that kind of a scenario. So it's all about
navigating these situations in a way that will cause the
least chaos and stress for you, but still standing on
what's right. And honestly, it sounds like you did that.
It really doesn't sound like you did anything wrong, But
it does sound like some people have no chill, and
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some people have also gotten too comfortable, like just because
you're some member of some minority group doesn't mean you
can do whatever you want and then cry discrimination if
you face consequences. At least, it certainly should not mean
that not in my view, But what do you guys think?
Let me know in the comments. Do remember that you
can send in your voice note with your Wokar stories
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or whatever you want to tell me about at the
link in the description. Make sure you subscribe. Okay, guys,
Now we're going to hear from a seventh grader about
the political extremism that is taking over the mind of
a seventh grade classmate. Jeez, Louise, let's listen to this.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Hello, Brad, So, my name is Ariana and I tend
seventh grade at middle school. So I share science with
this one girl, let's call her Lily. And Lily is
super woke, just for a seventh grader. So I overheard
her one day talking. She sits at my table, which
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is a misfortune. So Lily says, oh, I wish I
had a button to kill Trump, and then she said, oh,
same for Elon. She wishes that the bullet never missed,
that Trump died, and many terrible things. Yes, it's really bad.
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The worst part is this is only seventh grade. It's
really terrible. I feel bad. I don't know what her
parents have done to her. This is seventh grade. We
shouldn't be so political yet it's just sad.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Wow, So thank you for the dispatch from seventh grade.
It's kinda wild to me that I have seventh graders
listening to this podcast. Hopefully you have parental approval for
doing that because to some of the content we discussed
as obviously you know a little bit more grown up.
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But it seems like you're smart and sharp as a
seventh grader if you're following along with such brilliant and
charming insight. However, I mean, you are right, this is
a really disturbing sentiment for anyone to have. But we've
covered her on the show. This is sadly kind of
a widespread sentiment among Democrats and left of center Americans
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say they're all like this. Certainly not but pluralities to
slim majorities. Actually, we've looked at polling think that it's
partially justified to kill Trump or kill Elon, And I
mean that's a really scary view because it does threaten
to kind of undo the fabric of our civilization, take
us down a path towards civil war. It's obviously, you know,
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just any kind of murder is wrong, human life is sacred.
It would make our political climate even more unhinged and
insane if anything like that were to have happened. So
it's obviously not good. But for your classmate, the seventh grader,
I have kind of mixed feelings. I'm not gonna judge
a twelve year old girl or whatever that hard. I mean,
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who among us didn't have some ridiculous opinions or beliefs,
or say or do incredibly stupid things when we were
that young, Like the frontal cortex is not frontal cortexing,
So I'm not going to judge her too hard, though
hopefully she kind of grows out of this extremism. I
will say that my thought instantly goes to the parents,
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as did yours. Right, what is she watching at home?
What is she hearing at home? How closely related to
facts is it? Or is she hearing extreme hyperbole about
like they're going to be putting the gay people in cams,
or other kinds of things that are not in fact true,
but might prompt someone to end up in this kind
of radical place. I am concerned. I would say though,
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that if you hear your classmate express that kind of
sentiment yourself, you probably should report that to a teacher
or guidance counselor or someone like that, because anybody openly
talking about violence in school, that's a little concerning and
something that should be addressed. So good on you for
having your head set on straight at such a young age.
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And yikes, I hope that that's an outlier example and
not what most seventh gate grade classrooms are dividing themselves about. Okay, up, next,
we're gonna hear from somebody who is having non binary
ideology taught in their high school. Let's take a lesson.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Hello, Brad, my name is Mathias and I am a
high school junior from Spain. So a couple of weeks ago,
our school brought in a guy to talk about LGBT issues.
He was He had a bald head, a full beard,
but still he called himself non binary and just centered
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the entire one hour talk pretty much about being non
binary and how they needed to be respected. Now, I
am a trance guy who hasn't started his transition yet
because I want to wait till i'm older, and that
was very annoying because I don't even consider non binary
people inside our community. Also, college entering sam's are very
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hard in Spain and they need years in advance to
prepare for we are already preparing for them. And my
Spanish class was interrupted to bring in this guy to
talk about something ridiculous. This went very annoying too, because
the Spanish exam specifically is very hard, and I don't know,
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I just feel like this talk, especially non binary people,
should be led to the parents because we're all a
bunch of minors. And also this guy kept making a
lot of sex jokes, Like the whole talk just gay
suggestive jokes. It was very annoying. Anyways, let me know
what you think by.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I'm I'm horrified. What do you mean this guy is
coming in and making sex jokes that's extremely inappropriate. Now,
it's a little bit hard to pass too much judgment
just because like Spanish and European culture about this stuff
is so much different than American, but I can really,
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I can only think about it in an American context,
and that would be totally inappropriate to do in a
high school here, not okay, And I will just say like,
I'm glad that you kind of have your head on
straight and realize that you should wait till you're older
to make any choices that you can't undo. You know,
because your brain is still developing until you're like twenty five,
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a lot of these things related to your gender identity
or being trans cannot be undone. So definitely take your
time with that and wait till you're an adult, and
then you know, if you go through counseling, if that
it truly is the right thing for you, then maybe
pursue it. But I'm glad you're not going into anything
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hasty on that front.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Now.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I'll also say I would have been so annoyed to
be studying, for example, and have any crap like this
disrupt it. Not even in this case it's ridiculous incoherent propaganda.
But even if it was something like fine, why are
you doing it right before big exams and during the
hardest class like that would drive me and I was
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a type A student, that would have actually made me
crash out. But on the actual non binary thing, this
is an incoherent ideology. This is a sexist ideology that
starts from a false premise. In reality, sex is binary,
and almost every human being is easily categorizable as male
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or female based on their reproductive system and then based
off like a crude understanding of sex stereotypes suggests that like,
if you're too feminine, you might not really be a man.
Orf you're too masculine, you might not really be a woman.
I really think that ideology has no place in society
and that we should just be accepting of gender non
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conforming people like oh she, yeah, she's a woman, but
she's super masculine in her appearance sometimes and doesn't like
traditionally girly things and that's totally cool. Or yes, he's
a man, but he's flamboyant and feminine and he even
likes to wear a little bit of makeup. All of
that should just be okay and cool, Like sure, all right,
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doesn't mean you're not male or female. And I'm particularly
alarmed by the idea of presenting teenagers with this ideology
from an authority figure in this kind of context, because
teenagers are already vulnerable and susceptible to these kinds of
ideas being pushed on them, especially because you know a
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lot of young people I know I did have self
esteem issues, have body issues, are coming to grips with
maybe a different sexuality or so many things that exposing
them to that that just seems sinister to me, and
really not okay, And I don't understand. I can think
of all these negative things associated with it and literally
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zero positivity or good outcome. So I think that's really
not great. And I sure hope that's not happening here
in the United States, although in some pockets of the country,
I would not be shocked if they were teaching kids
about non binary in high school. Okay, up, next, we're
gonna hear from somebody who's gotten some extremely disturbing threats
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just for being outspoken in her pro life beliefs. Let's
take a listen.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
Hi, Brad.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
My name is Lauren and I it's less of a
story and more of something that's happened so frequently at
this point that I just feel the need to mention
it so frequently that I unfortunately have a buttload of screenshots.
Speaker 7 (14:49):
But I am outwardly pro life, I'm outwardly against abortion,
and I have got an unholy amount of SA threats
to my three year old and six month old daughters.
It has become something that is almost stockerish. Some of
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these people have come to my comments on my Instagram
posts or sent me messages. I've gone on and off
of private Instagram people have somehow found my email addresses,
my personal addresses and sent me literal I hope that
your daughter gets sayed. I hope that you get sayed.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
I hope la da da da.
Speaker 7 (15:31):
Da all because I have pro life and it is
a very unfortunate but frequent occurrence, and I just thought
that that might be something you'd be a good commentator
on being an independent middle ground perspective and I'd love
to hear your thoughts on it.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Wow, I mean, thank you for sharing. That's really like
a very vulnerable story and very scary and I'm so
that you had to go through that. That is not okay.
And I would say the same thing if you were
a pro choice activist, like what part of people's education
or parenting was wrong where they didn't get it through
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their thick skulls. That is not okay to threaten to
sexually assault people, and that particularly, I would be horrified
and my heart would go out to you if you
were talking about I was a pro life activist and
people saying they wanted to essay me the kids though,
what kind of sick demon what kind of demonic spirit
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would invoke someone's young infant children because and threatened to
do terrible things to them, or suggest they hope that
terrible things happen to them because of that person's political advocacy.
What did the what did the baby do? That's insane,
That is diagnostic of a sick and disturbed soul. So
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the best thing you can do is block these people.
If it crosses a certain threshold, you could contact your
local police. They're probably not going to be very helpful.
Trust me, as a public figure, as a journalist, as
a commentator with sometimes unpopular opinions. I have received threats before.
There's not a ton that they can necessarily do, but
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it can't hurt to put some of that stuff on
the record or file reports. But I'm so sorry you
have to deal with that, and it's really unacceptable. And
that exists independently of whether you agree with your views
on abortion, which people should leave nuance, for the fact
that it's really a complicated and deeply emotional issue that
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people of good faith could come down on different sides
of And it doesn't mean they're evil or bad, and
it certainly doesn't mean terrible things should happen to their children.
So I'm really sorry you had this experience hearing stuff
like this makes me sad because I imagine it's some
point of an outlier example. But the toxicity of our
discourse that is a broader problem, and people need to
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stop dehumanizing the people that disagree with them, stop wishing
the worst on them, and maybe leave some space for
the fact that you know, I might think this person
has the totally wrong idea for society. I think their
views are really harmful. Maybe they actually are coming from
a good place. And I am whether I would agree
with you on every abortion policy or not, I'm pretty
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confident you are coming from a good place, and I'm
so sorry that happened to you, But thank you for sharing.
And don't let them win. When they send you those
kinds of messages. They're trying to cow you into silence,
right like, scare you so you shut up, and to
whatever extent you're able, I would not give into that,
and I would keep stating your beliefs proudly and strongly,
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not cave to a heckler's veto. But what do you
guys think? Can you believe that story? I'm still kind
of horrified by that one. Up next, we're going to
hear from somebody who had a really horrifying experience with
a person in their life who was interested in diaper play. Yes,
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those are words that I actually had to say on
the podcast today. Let's take a listen to this.
Speaker 8 (19:19):
Hey, Brad, I just wanted to let you know you're
really awesome and I love watching you every day. So
my Woldcorp story is that I was in a fandom community.
I made friends with a transgender woman, and while we
were at conventions, I would treat this person exactly like
a woman, as per the woke standards, and I would
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let them go into the bathroom with me, I would
hug them, I would let them help me with my
cost into my costume. And it was until later that
I found out this person was into diaper play and
also was apparently a self professed file. So yeah, I
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realized I connected that this person was most likely transitioning
in order to live out his dreams of being a
little girl in real life, or perhaps to get closer
to children. I don't know. It was just crazy to
think that by woke standards, I would have to treat
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this creepy man as a woman. So yeah, crazy.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Wow, that is horrifying, and I'm sorry for you. Because
it really sounds like your trust and your privacy was
violated by somebody who was not what you thought they were,
And oh, my gosh, this is so disturbing. It really
concerns me that there are people there out there in
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the world like this. It's important to note that, of course,
that is not representative of all or most, or trans
people or non binary people or anything like that. But
I take your point though, that this is the problem
with what some people on the kind of woke left
advocate for, which is basically just like self id you
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are whatever you say you are, no questions asked, no
diagnosises needed, no verification process, just that's their truth. So
if they feel like a woman that day open up
the women's locker room, obviously that is problematic. And it's
not because like, oh, trans people are dangerous or anything
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like that. No, it's because dangerous people can and will
exploit those loopholes to get access to people and to
make other people uncomfortable. And it sounds like that's what
happened here. It doesn't even sound like this as a
person who would actually meet any traditional definition of being trans.
It sounds like it's just a perv who and a
predator who seized on that as a way to get
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closer to potential victims. That's horrifying. I'm really sorry you
had to go through that, but wow, thank you for
sharing and for your vulnerability with all of us. Up next,
we're going to hear from a listener in Canada. Because
when I get depressed about the absolute state of our country,
well there's always even crazier stuff happening abroad. Let's take
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a listen.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
Hello, Brad, my name is Wolfe, also known as Lupo.
I have been watching your show for about six or
seven days straight here. I've binged a lot of your
videos because it's been very refreshing to see someone who
is also center right and libertarian who doesn't believe in
the identity politics, especially coming from the gay community. Although
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I'm straight, I'm a firm believer in do what you want,
just don't bring the kids in it. As I was
saying in my comment, inspired me to send you this.
I am a Canadian and we have some wacky laws.
From getting fifteen years in prison if you kill someone
in self defense, two, we are now legally allowed to
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use neo pronouns and self identify as native on government
documents and medical records. I want you to know that
I will be legally moving to the United States because
this country has lost its mind and Trump is right,
just for the wrong reasons. We are a problem, but
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our problem is not drugs. That's nothing compared to the
amount of overcorrection and dei we've done as a society.
I just want to say thank you for letting me
voice my opinion and want to know what your thought is,
whether or not we've gone too far, because I sure,
as Holp we we have all right. Thank you very much,
Brad love the.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Show well, thank you so much for tuning in and
for your And I'll say this about Canada, particularly on
some of this stuff and on some of the free
speech stuff, is where they seem to have truly lost
the plot, Like the whole Canadian trucker situation during COVID.
I was horrified by that, the way they were like
freezing their bank accounts and cracking down on people just
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for protesting. And it is just ridiculous that anybody or
any country would treat neo pronouns, which, guys, if you
don't know what that is, neo pronouns refers to the
woke idea that you can have anything be a pronoun,
So my pronouns could be slug, slugs, snowball, snowballs. The
idea that governments would enable and encourage that level of
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the lulu is actually astonishing to me and deeply depressing
and shows how deep the rot is, shows how deep
some of these ideas are embedded in supposedly advanced, enlightened nations.
And yeah, look, welcome. I hope you're able to come
to the US legally and contribute. And I'm always welcoming
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of more legal immigrants who want to come to our
country and add to it and contribute positively. And I
agree with you. I think Trump's takes on Canada are
very off base. Talking about them becoming the fifty first
state is ridiculous. They don't want to be a state,
and why would we want them to be a state? Right,
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they would add a bunch of senators and representatives to
Congress who would be so far left they would make
AOC look like a Republican. It's just one of those
silly things. I don't think he's fully thought through. He
just likes the idea of acquiring a big piece of
land or something so I agree with you. He is
right to be critical of Canada, but some solutions there
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don't make a whole lot of sense. In addition, I
don't support some of his trade actions towards Canada. I
think we benefit from trade with Canada by and large.
So I hope you're able to come to the US.
And it is always amusing but also depressing the absolute
state of things up north. What do you guys think?
Have you encountered this kind of stuff in Canada or
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other countries? If you have, or if you have something
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