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The artist "Ye," aka Kanye West, just released a song called "Heil Hitler," and some people are actually taking it seriously. I break this and the online fallout down in this episode of the Brad vs Everyone podcast. Plus, liberal protestors disrupt a congressional hearing with RFK Jr., and an unhinged TikTok goes viral.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm gonna say it through.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Don't answer first, what if Hitler? This is fine? Nothing
to see here. The internet is doing absolutely amazing. We
are going to break down the extremely bizarre online discourse
(00:24):
that's coming out over Yay, the artist formerly known as
Kanye West's news song that openly praises Hitler, plus liberal
protesters go insane during a congressional hearing with RFK Junior
and another unhinged TikTok. We're gonna break down all this
and so much more on today's episode of The Barad
(00:45):
Versus Everyone podcast, my daily show where we take on
the craziest ideas from across the Internet or politics in
our media, all from an independent perspective. Up first, like
I mentioned, we're gonna check in with Yay, and I
don't really know how to pair you for what I'm
about to show you. I'm gonna attempt to show you
it in full and see if the YouTube overlords will
(01:05):
let me get away with it. But he has a
song that has been streamed millions and millions of times
on x and on SoundCloud, even though it's being banned
by most of the platforms, which we'll get into that
he just released Kanye West or Yea, who is, as
we've covered on this show very now, clearly mentally unwell
and openly anti semitic, has released a music video for
(01:27):
a song called Hail Hitler. Yes, seriously, we're going to
react to that song and then discuss it, and then
discuss some of the online commentary about it, because some
new media figures are making some sort of bizarre defenses
of it that I want to talk about. First, here's
(01:48):
the song, brace Yourself. I guess man this people took
(02:09):
my kids.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
From me, then they trust my bank account.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I got so much changer n me got no.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Way to take it out.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
They comes stuck in the maid tracks.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Wait that fucks my name track.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
You're saying I cook out, like when people.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
Fucking mind dad she did?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I fucking my Twitter?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
They're telling me you me, don't say that.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
How niggas can't see me in public?
Speaker 6 (02:25):
I'm traving I'll cook me back?
Speaker 8 (02:27):
Wait no, no, the money your fam.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I still can't give my kids back. Wait no, no,
no money. And think I still don't get to see
my children. Nigga see my Twitter, but they don't.
Speaker 8 (02:35):
See how I be feeling. So when I became a nassy, Yeah, bitch,
I'm the fiddler. They do don't understanding the things I
said on Twitter. I don't know understanding things I said on.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
Twitter because Nasi's the.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
She want to put the pants, put the crew on
the beds.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Should we get out of her pants? She got the
roll in her hands.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Excite Uh, I'm I'm almost speechless. That's the first time
(04:32):
I've sat and listened to the whole thing through, not
the Hitler sample at the end. This is one of
the most unhinged things I think I've ever seen. And
I mean it's disturbingly catchy, like the actual chorus gets
stuck in your head. When I first heard it a
(04:54):
couple of days ago, It's got stuck there, and I'm like,
this is psychotic, that this is just into my head
like it's some cute, funny or even you know, normal
levels of dark song. It's not. It's openly demonic as
far as I'm concerned, and praising one of the most
evil human beings to ever exist, killed six million Jews
(05:16):
and millions of other people. But anything to be edgy
and get attention these days. I guess other initial thoughts
I have after listening to this, no wonder you're not
allowed to see your kids, sir. This is not helping
you beat the bad influence allegations. This is exhibit A
(05:37):
in fact proving the shouldn't be allowed around your children allegations.
If you were actually concerned about getting custody of your
kids back, posting and publishing this kind of insanity would
seem to be the absolute last thing you should do,
which makes me doubt either the sincerity of that concern
(05:57):
or just whether he's even basically mentally coherent enough to
put one plus one equals two together in terms of
the consequences of his actions at this point. And it's like,
no wonder people don't understand your tweets because it's also
incoherent and bizarre. This whole thing just comes off as
like a huge cry for help and an attempt to
(06:19):
sort of be transgressive for its own sake, Like let's
just say the edgiest thing imaginable that that's not actually clever.
It's kind of the opposite of cleverness. Just like if
you never say anything offensive and you're too afraid to
possibly hurt someone's fiefees, you don't create good art. Well
if you literally just try to deliberately troll and be
antagonistic towards people as as offensive as possible. That's not
(06:42):
particularly interesting either, because actually interesting art emerges when you're
transgressive in ways that rub up against some taboo or
social norm but are actually true, not when you lionize
people who are objectively evil just to get attention for yourself.
And I have to say that, but I don't view
this as just like haha, Kanye being unhinged again or
(07:04):
look epic trolling. I don't view it like that at all.
There's real harm here. We're in a time where there's
a real uptick in anti semitism online and in the
general public. And whatever you think of Israel and the
war in Gaza, you don't have to support it. You
don't have to support us involvement in it. I don't
(07:25):
at this point. Nothing justifies the very real bigotry and
anti semitism that a lot of Jewish people are facing
right now, And this kind of thing absolutely foments and
fuels that in some pretty dangerous ways. Because to be clear,
Kanye has like thirty three million followers on x or whatever,
and I know that a lot of a lot of
people at this point follow him as kind of like
(07:48):
a train wreck or you know, something to look at,
like a spectacle, not because they actually take him seriously,
but some people still do. Even if it's one million
out of thirty three that still actually idolize him and
look up to him because of his unquestionable musical genius,
then those are people who genuinely are now internalizing the
(08:11):
idea that Hitler is somebody worth worshiping, and that it's
okay to blur the lines about the most abject evils
in human history just to be edgy. Now, I've seen
some people argue that while this song's actually not pro Hitler,
he's saying I'm the villain. We're all Hitler now, and
that suggests that it's bad. I think those people are
engaging in mental gymnastics to just try to defend Kanye Here.
(08:34):
When you view it in the context of everything he's
tweeted about how much he loves Hitler and what he
wants to happen to Jewish people, He's literally said they
should be whipped. There's no way to read this other
than him praising Hitler, even if it's being done somewhat
ironically or tongue in cheek. There's at least a grain
of actual sympathy there, and that's file that's evil, And
(08:58):
even if one percent of his followers internalize it in
any way, then you're using your massive influence to spread
one of the world's oldest bigotries and hatred, and that's
just a shameful thing to do. I mean, I got
to show you, guys this polling that's incredibly disturbing. Eleven
percent of US adult citizens think that Hitler was a
(09:19):
good person or equally good and bad person, twelve percent
say they are not sure, and only sixty five percent
say he was a completely bad person. And this is
polling from twenty twenty four, So to reiterate, you have
millions of Americans who essentially think Hitler got a bad
(09:39):
rap and was kind of a good guy, which is
unhinged and is dangerous. If they can actually view somebody
who killed millions of Jews and other people as well
in that kind of a light, they could view somebody
who commits future atrocities in that light. They could be
brainwashed to support that. I mean, I saw this unhinged
video going around the internet after this song came out.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I'm broag gonna get a lot of hate for this,
but uh here it goes nothing. So with the release
of Kanye's new song, hh, can't say the title because
Deos might get ticked. Well, the release his new song
kind of have me thinking, like, Bro, what could really
make it make such a crazy song? Like there's got
to be a reason, right, Like, obviously we know Kanye
for doing like this, come out in sanely controversial song
before you drop albumage. You know, sometimes the songs or
just tweets whatever he's just be doing to say, But
(10:22):
this time, Kanyne be thinking like, what if I'm.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Gonna just say it, Bro, don't cancer me for this?
What if Hitler wasn't all that bad?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I mean the Jews worth.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I'm not saying it's a ton of people, but it's
not a zero amount of people either who are actually
taking this seriously. And that should terrify you. And you
have people like Yay out here further fomenting this kind
of thing. It is not just because it is a
small minority doesn't mean it's non existent. And again, it
(10:53):
only takes one person out there to go commit a
horrific attack against a synagogue or something else. And so
I'm a big believer in free speech, and to be clear,
I don't think Ya's song should be illegal. I don't
think he can or should be prosecuted for it in
any way. But you can hold space for that true
belief in free speech while also acknowledging that people with
(11:15):
a massive platform have an obligation to be responsible in
how they use it, and using it to foment hate
against any group of people like this is evil and irresponsible.
But some commentators online, including some very big names, are
trying to defend it, at least partially, and I want
(11:35):
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(12:40):
talk about Russell Brand, who was a big actor and
is now kind of a political commentator or guru facing
his own scandals and allegations. But we'll get into that
another day maybe. Anyway, he is kind of like in
this new media new right space, even though he's not
really a traditional conservative or anything like that, and he's
been making kind of a quasi defense of Yeay's new song.
(13:03):
Take a listen to a clip of him discussing this.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Even in the Kanye video you know where he's doing
that high Hitler, I see playing it. I don't think
that Kanye is saying, do you know.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
What Hiller is a good play?
Speaker 5 (13:15):
He might be, I don't know. You know, Will Let's
look at it and let him talk for himself. He's
a pretty He's a competent and great artist, capable for
speaking for himself. But why since in it as an observer,
is he's playing?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
He's trying to bring ideas.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Together and create a result. In a culture that rewards homogenuity,
people continually select towards the banalizing center because why because
of commerce?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
So I don't really agree with this. I don't see
play in the video. I do see trolling in the video,
if that's what you mean by play, But it's not
quite the same thing to me. And I actually just
think that in the context of everything that ye has
publicly said about Hitler at this point, that it's impossible
to read this as somehow not an endorsement of Hitler.
(13:59):
Russell expand on this in his tweet. Is Yea's song
Hail Hitler an endorsement of the Nazis? Or is it
about taboos? And what do we want from art? Homogeneity? Banality,
continued compliance for advertisers. How can we be offended by
yay and not by Stephen Colbert's vax song and dance.
Here he's referencing an extremely cringe worthy bit that Stephen
(14:21):
Colbert did during the pandemic, encouraging people to get vaccinated.
So I understand the point about transgressing norms and stuff,
but again, I think there's can be value in that
when it's done for a reason. But just being edgy
for Edginus's sake is not interesting, is not progressive. And
what is the actual message here that's somehow meaningful or
(14:44):
interesting or true? Isn't one at least not that I
can see. Again, it just seems like he's trying to
be as transgressive as possible, but some taboos exist for
a reason. My friend Billy Binyon tweeted this epitomizes one
of the biggest problems with the new right, which is
that many, many of them cannot distinguish between canceled culture
and having standards. You simply do not have to praise
(15:06):
someone for saying hail Hitler. That's not intellectual bravery, it's depravity.
Jane Cousten, a liberal journalist who I am friendly with,
also tweeted at a certain point makes people mad. Is
not an ethos. Ted Bundy made people mad. I agree
with this, and I'll always stand for free speech and
I'll oppose canceled culture. But at the same time, I
feel like a lot of people have adopted this tribal
(15:28):
position where now they feel like they also then therefore
have to reflexively defend anything and have no standards at all.
It's actually not how it has to work. You can
be against canceling people for old opinions that didn't age well,
or for disproportionate consequences for people, while also understanding that
some speech will still have social consequences, and that you
(15:49):
don't have to accept and promote all opinions and perspectives,
no matter how vile. Also, just one note on the
Colbert vaccine thing, how can we be a by someone
saying hail Hitler, but not by a comedian's cringeworthy pro
vaccine propaganda, because one of those things is intrinsically evil
(16:11):
and the other one is cringe worthy but seemingly well intentioned.
I barely even know how to engage with that question, honestly,
because the two just seems so not remotely comparable. One
final point about this Ya controversy that I do want
to touch on is the fact that the song is
being outright banned from most platforms, including YouTube, Spotify, Apple, iTunes,
(16:36):
whatever it's called these days, and the like. Here's Joe
Rogan's take on that.
Speaker 8 (16:40):
There's a benefit to just letting people talk, Like, let
people say whatever they want to say, even if it sucks.
This is the benefit of Twitter. But this is also
the bad part. It's like, the song is so many
millions of hits, Yeah on Twitter. It's been banned from
every platform. But is it good to ban things from
platform or is it better to let it be out
(17:03):
there and let people talk about it, Because if you
ban it, then people want to hear it more, and
then it becomes more popular, and then it kind of
supports what he says, which is that there's this concerted
effort if you talk about Jewish people, that they're going
to remove you from everything, remove you from banking, which
is what he's saying. They run everything, So if they didn't, like,
(17:24):
if it was just you were talking shit about Puerto Ricans,
look what happened to Tony Nothing. Yeah, he's doing great. Yeah,
you know, what I mean, like, if there's certain people
that you're allowed to pick on and make jokes about
or mock or say something and you can get away
with it.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, well, I think he's made his point. I think
we all get it now. To be clear, Rogan is
not endorsing or supporting the song. He makes it very
clear elsewhere in the podcast, but he's saying he doesn't
think it should be censored. I don't find the comparison
to a joke that was offensive about Puerto Ricans quite
the same. This is several orders of magnitude different, but
I do on what take his point. These platforms do
(18:02):
have terms of service and standards, and they don't have
to allow literally all content, but there is something inconsistent
about it that rubs me the wrong way. You can
go on Spotify or Apple Music or any of these
platforms and find all sorts of songs that have incredibly violent, explicit,
(18:23):
hateful lyrics toward gay people, toward women, promoting acts of
sexual violence, so much more, slurs of all kinds. The
fact that Kanye's song is taken down because it's hateful
towards Jewish people and crazy obviously, but other stuff is
allowed to Fly, even though it's violent and it's hateful
(18:44):
and it has slurs of all kinds, does strike me
as unfair and inconsistent. And I do sometimes think that
sunshine can be a good disinfectant, and that almost these
platforms censoring this song sort of plays into his hand.
It's not because it actually proves Jews control everything. That's
not what it proves, but it does help him portray
(19:07):
himself as a victim. They want to censor the truth,
all this kind of stuff that almost makes it seem cooler,
more verbotan, more like forbidden fruit to you know, young
men who've grown up in this overly censorious, wote culture,
who like edged the appeal of edgy stuff. They're like, oh,
they don't want me to listen to this song, now
I have to. So I think that that approach is
(19:28):
probably counterproductive, is definitely not entirely consistent, and so I'm
kind of up two minds of it. I can see
the argument that, like listen, these platforms do have standards,
they don't have to allow every possible piece of music
or art on them. But at the same time, I think,
if you're not going to enforce those standards, strictly consistently,
and if censoring the content may actually make it more
(19:50):
appealing to people or draw more attention to it, then
it might just be better to let it on there
and let people hear it and hopefully come to the
correct conclusion that these are just the ramblings of a
disturbed and yes, hate filled mine. What do you guys think?
What do you make of all this controversy and of
the song itself? Do let me know in the comments,
(20:10):
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(20:34):
original content, including a video that will potentially be out
by the time this podcast airs. Okay, up next, We've
got another entry in our running category of please can
liberals just act normal? Here's a clip from a congressional
hearing featuring HHS Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F.
Kennedy Junior, that was interrupted by multiple left wing activists.
(20:57):
Take a listen.
Speaker 9 (21:09):
The witness will suspend, the committee will come to order.
Capitol Police are asked to remove.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
The individuals will carry moved.
Speaker 9 (21:16):
Members of the audience are reminded disruptions will not be tolerated.
Members of the audience reminded disruptions will not be permitted
while the committee conducts his business. Capitol Police are asked
(21:38):
to remove the individuals from the hearing room. That was
a made for c SPAN moment. The Secretary will resume.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
So, look, I've been a critic of RFK and a
lot of his views that I find to be incredibly suspect,
and I didn't support his nomination. I talk about it
on the show at the time. But this is simply
unhinged and kind of scary. I mean, remember the Kennedy
famili has faced multiple assassination attempts. So I understand why
RFK Junior a kind of like really flinched and seem
to be very scared by this sudden outburst. I understand
(22:21):
why you feel that way, and he shouldn't be made
to feel that way. Nobody, no public officials should. These
people should be arrested and charged with crimes. I believe
they have been. And just you know, one of the
guys there is actually the co founder of Ben and
Jerry's And I just don't understand how they think this
looks good for them, how they think this brings positive
(22:41):
support to their cause or attention to their message. I
don't think it does that at all. I think it
makes them look deranged and look radical and crazy and unpleasant,
and probably pushes people away from supporting their ideas and
makes their criticisms look less valid because they're being associated
with unhinged behavior. What was interesting about that is that
during the actual hearing, Democratic elected officials questioned DARF K
(23:05):
Junior in some ways where I thought they landed some
points on him through actual dialogue and discussion, not through
unhinged protests. I mean, here's one clip where they kind
of got him to make a pretty inconvenient admission.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
One thing that might be helpful is you've previously said
you've vaccinated your children. Just because I think this is
a helpful answer, and this isn't a gotcha, I promise
if you had a child today would you vaccinate that
child for measles?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
For measles? Probably for measles. I you know what I
would say is my opinions about vaccines are irrelevant. I
have directed Jay Badajara.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Sure no, Like I said, I don't want to.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
So that everybody can make that decision. But I you know,
I don't want to measles seem like I'm being evasive. Yeah,
but I don't think people should be taking advice medical advice.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Me right now, I got that, and I'm not asking
you to give them an advice, But would you vaccinate
your child for me?
Speaker 4 (24:05):
I answer that question directly that it will seem like
I'm giving advice to other people and I don't want
to be doing that. I want people to make but.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
That's kind of your jurisdiction because CDC does give advice, right,
I'm not trying to do it as it gotcha.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
It is just what so the fact that RFK Junior
just said people shouldn't be taking medical advice from me,
when he is literally in charge of the CDC under
his department HHS. He is the guy in charge of
public health agencies and he just admitted people shouldn't take
(24:38):
medical advice from him. That's not a great look for
your HHS secretary to say, and if you're a Democrat
who wants to discredit him, kind of just landed an
actual blow there through dialogue. What a radical concept, right,
But one thing that makes this even worse is the
guy who did the protest, or one of the guys
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that Ben and Jerry's co founder later admitted in a
NewsNation interview with Chris Cuomo that it wasn't even about
RFK Junior.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
What is it about Bobby Kennedy that you believe is
worth getting arrested for. It didn't really have anything to
do with Bobby Kennedy. What it had to do with
is that Congress has been cutting money for Medicaid, the
healthcare for poor kids.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
So you just look even more unhinged when you're disrupting
someone just for a general protest and it's not even
about them or the topics specifically being discussed. Congrats, you
just made yourself look even worse. What a wild world
we live in. Sadly, this kind of stuff is not
even particularly unusual anymore, but still, let me know what
(25:47):
you think about it in the comments below. Finally, let's
take a look at a video that's spreading around the
internet right now from one lovely influencer warning guys, she
seems kind of unhiitm.
Speaker 7 (26:00):
Hey, maga. Is he dead yet? That's the only thing,
the only conversation that I want to have with you,
whether or not he's dead yet. That is the only
thing that I would want to hear out of your
mouth mouth. Is he dead yet? So stay off my
page unless you're coming to tell me that Donald is
(26:23):
dead as a door nail, a dirt nap gone.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
Otherwise, go fly guy, stay off my page.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Uh, she seems stable and lovely. Guys, It's actually not
normal to let politics break your brain to the point
where you are eagerly waiting on people's death. And regardless
of what side you are, if you find yourself feeling
that way about politics, you need to touch grass. Also,
(26:54):
no tea, no shade. What am I saying? Yes, t
yes shade. You do realize that, like we're Trump to die,
jd Vance would become president, right, and so everything you're
concerned about with the Trump administration would continue. In fact,
in some ways, Jade Vance may be more conservative or
even to the right of Donald Trump. On a whole
host of issues. Actually, so if anything, you might get
(27:16):
MAGA even harder. I mean, I don't know, guys. Maybe
there were always this many deranged, mentally ill people out there,
and just without the Internet, without social media, we didn't
hear from them or see them as much. Maybe that's
what's happening here. But I think it could also be
that there is a real and meaningful uptick in the
frequency with which people are having their brains absolutely broken
(27:39):
by politics. And that is not just on the liberal
left side. Although those videos are often funnier, I will say,
more comical, it's a real problem. I don't really know
how to fix it, but I do know that the
approach of people like this TikToker, that's not the way
to help our country heal and make progress. But what
(28:01):
do you guys think? Let me know in the comments.
All right, everybody. That'll be it for this episode of
the Barad Versus Everyone Podcast. Thank you all so much
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I'm gonna say it through.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Don't answer first, what if Hitler? This is fine? Nothing
to see here. The internet is doing absolutely amazing. We
are going to break down the extremely bizarre online discourse
(00:24):
that's coming out over Yay, the artist formerly known as
Kanye West's news song that openly praises Hitler, plus liberal
protesters go insane during a congressional hearing with RFK Junior
and another unhinged TikTok. We're gonna break down all this
and so much more on today's episode of The Barad
(00:45):
Versus Everyone podcast, my daily show where we take on
the craziest ideas from across the Internet or politics in
our media, all from an independent perspective. Up first, like
I mentioned, we're gonna check in with Yay, and I
don't really know how to pair you for what I'm
about to show you. I'm gonna attempt to show you
it in full and see if the YouTube overlords will
(01:05):
let me get away with it. But he has a
song that has been streamed millions and millions of times
on x and on SoundCloud, even though it's being banned
by most of the platforms, which we'll get into that
he just released Kanye West or Yea, who is, as
we've covered on this show very now, clearly mentally unwell
and openly anti semitic, has released a music video for
(01:27):
a song called Hail Hitler. Yes, seriously, we're going to
react to that song and then discuss it, and then
discuss some of the online commentary about it, because some
new media figures are making some sort of bizarre defenses
of it that I want to talk about. First, here's
(01:48):
the song, brace Yourself. I guess man this people took
(02:09):
my kids.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
From me, then they trust my bank account.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I got so much changer n me got no.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Way to take it out.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
They comes stuck in the maid tracks.
Speaker 5 (02:16):
Wait that fucks my name track.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
You're saying I cook out, like when people.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
Fucking mind dad she did?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I fucking my Twitter?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
They're telling me you me, don't say that.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
How niggas can't see me in public?
Speaker 6 (02:25):
I'm traving I'll cook me back?
Speaker 8 (02:27):
Wait no, no, the money your fam.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
I still can't give my kids back. Wait no, no,
no money. And think I still don't get to see
my children. Nigga see my Twitter, but they don't.
Speaker 8 (02:35):
See how I be feeling. So when I became a nassy, Yeah, bitch,
I'm the fiddler. They do don't understanding the things I
said on Twitter. I don't know understanding things I said on.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
Twitter because Nasi's the.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
She want to put the pants, put the crew on
the beds.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Should we get out of her pants? She got the
roll in her hands.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Excite Uh, I'm I'm almost speechless. That's the first time
(04:32):
I've sat and listened to the whole thing through, not
the Hitler sample at the end. This is one of
the most unhinged things I think I've ever seen. And
I mean it's disturbingly catchy, like the actual chorus gets
stuck in your head. When I first heard it a
(04:54):
couple of days ago, It's got stuck there, and I'm like,
this is psychotic, that this is just into my head
like it's some cute, funny or even you know, normal
levels of dark song. It's not. It's openly demonic as
far as I'm concerned, and praising one of the most
evil human beings to ever exist, killed six million Jews
(05:16):
and millions of other people. But anything to be edgy
and get attention these days. I guess other initial thoughts
I have after listening to this, no wonder you're not
allowed to see your kids, sir. This is not helping
you beat the bad influence allegations. This is exhibit A
(05:37):
in fact proving the shouldn't be allowed around your children allegations.
If you were actually concerned about getting custody of your
kids back, posting and publishing this kind of insanity would
seem to be the absolute last thing you should do,
which makes me doubt either the sincerity of that concern
(05:57):
or just whether he's even basically mentally coherent enough to
put one plus one equals two together in terms of
the consequences of his actions at this point. And it's like,
no wonder people don't understand your tweets because it's also
incoherent and bizarre. This whole thing just comes off as
like a huge cry for help and an attempt to
(06:19):
sort of be transgressive for its own sake, Like let's
just say the edgiest thing imaginable that that's not actually clever.
It's kind of the opposite of cleverness. Just like if
you never say anything offensive and you're too afraid to
possibly hurt someone's fiefees, you don't create good art. Well
if you literally just try to deliberately troll and be
antagonistic towards people as as offensive as possible. That's not
(06:42):
particularly interesting either, because actually interesting art emerges when you're
transgressive in ways that rub up against some taboo or
social norm but are actually true, not when you lionize
people who are objectively evil just to get attention for yourself.
And I have to say that, but I don't view
this as just like haha, Kanye being unhinged again or
(07:04):
look epic trolling. I don't view it like that at all.
There's real harm here. We're in a time where there's
a real uptick in anti semitism online and in the
general public. And whatever you think of Israel and the
war in Gaza, you don't have to support it. You
don't have to support us involvement in it. I don't
(07:25):
at this point. Nothing justifies the very real bigotry and
anti semitism that a lot of Jewish people are facing
right now, And this kind of thing absolutely foments and
fuels that in some pretty dangerous ways. Because to be clear,
Kanye has like thirty three million followers on x or whatever,
and I know that a lot of a lot of
people at this point follow him as kind of like
(07:48):
a train wreck or you know, something to look at,
like a spectacle, not because they actually take him seriously,
but some people still do. Even if it's one million
out of thirty three that still actually idolize him and
look up to him because of his unquestionable musical genius,
then those are people who genuinely are now internalizing the
(08:11):
idea that Hitler is somebody worth worshiping, and that it's
okay to blur the lines about the most abject evils
in human history just to be edgy. Now, I've seen
some people argue that while this song's actually not pro Hitler,
he's saying I'm the villain. We're all Hitler now, and
that suggests that it's bad. I think those people are
engaging in mental gymnastics to just try to defend Kanye Here.
(08:34):
When you view it in the context of everything he's
tweeted about how much he loves Hitler and what he
wants to happen to Jewish people, He's literally said they
should be whipped. There's no way to read this other
than him praising Hitler, even if it's being done somewhat
ironically or tongue in cheek. There's at least a grain
of actual sympathy there, and that's file that's evil, And
(08:58):
even if one percent of his followers internalize it in
any way, then you're using your massive influence to spread
one of the world's oldest bigotries and hatred, and that's
just a shameful thing to do. I mean, I got
to show you, guys this polling that's incredibly disturbing. Eleven
percent of US adult citizens think that Hitler was a
(09:19):
good person or equally good and bad person, twelve percent
say they are not sure, and only sixty five percent
say he was a completely bad person. And this is
polling from twenty twenty four, So to reiterate, you have
millions of Americans who essentially think Hitler got a bad
(09:39):
rap and was kind of a good guy, which is
unhinged and is dangerous. If they can actually view somebody
who killed millions of Jews and other people as well
in that kind of a light, they could view somebody
who commits future atrocities in that light. They could be
brainwashed to support that. I mean, I saw this unhinged
video going around the internet after this song came out.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I'm broag gonna get a lot of hate for this,
but uh here it goes nothing. So with the release
of Kanye's new song, hh, can't say the title because
Deos might get ticked. Well, the release his new song
kind of have me thinking, like, Bro, what could really
make it make such a crazy song? Like there's got
to be a reason, right, Like, obviously we know Kanye
for doing like this, come out in sanely controversial song
before you drop albumage. You know, sometimes the songs or
just tweets whatever he's just be doing to say, But
(10:22):
this time, Kanyne be thinking like, what if I'm.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Gonna just say it, Bro, don't cancer me for this?
What if Hitler wasn't all that bad?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I mean the Jews worth.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I'm not saying it's a ton of people, but it's
not a zero amount of people either who are actually
taking this seriously. And that should terrify you. And you
have people like Yay out here further fomenting this kind
of thing. It is not just because it is a
small minority doesn't mean it's non existent. And again, it
(10:53):
only takes one person out there to go commit a
horrific attack against a synagogue or something else. And so
I'm a big believer in free speech, and to be clear,
I don't think Ya's song should be illegal. I don't
think he can or should be prosecuted for it in
any way. But you can hold space for that true
belief in free speech while also acknowledging that people with
(11:15):
a massive platform have an obligation to be responsible in
how they use it, and using it to foment hate
against any group of people like this is evil and irresponsible.
But some commentators online, including some very big names, are
trying to defend it, at least partially, and I want
(11:35):
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(12:40):
talk about Russell Brand, who was a big actor and
is now kind of a political commentator or guru facing
his own scandals and allegations. But we'll get into that
another day maybe. Anyway, he is kind of like in
this new media new right space, even though he's not
really a traditional conservative or anything like that, and he's
been making kind of a quasi defense of Yeay's new song.
(13:03):
Take a listen to a clip of him discussing this.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Even in the Kanye video you know where he's doing
that high Hitler, I see playing it. I don't think
that Kanye is saying, do you know.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
What Hiller is a good play?
Speaker 5 (13:15):
He might be, I don't know. You know, Will Let's
look at it and let him talk for himself. He's
a pretty He's a competent and great artist, capable for
speaking for himself. But why since in it as an observer,
is he's playing?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
He's trying to bring ideas.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Together and create a result. In a culture that rewards homogenuity,
people continually select towards the banalizing center because why because
of commerce?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
So I don't really agree with this. I don't see
play in the video. I do see trolling in the video,
if that's what you mean by play, But it's not
quite the same thing to me. And I actually just
think that in the context of everything that ye has
publicly said about Hitler at this point, that it's impossible
to read this as somehow not an endorsement of Hitler.
(13:59):
Russell expand on this in his tweet. Is Yea's song
Hail Hitler an endorsement of the Nazis? Or is it
about taboos? And what do we want from art? Homogeneity? Banality,
continued compliance for advertisers. How can we be offended by
yay and not by Stephen Colbert's vax song and dance.
Here he's referencing an extremely cringe worthy bit that Stephen
(14:21):
Colbert did during the pandemic, encouraging people to get vaccinated.
So I understand the point about transgressing norms and stuff,
but again, I think there's can be value in that
when it's done for a reason. But just being edgy
for Edginus's sake is not interesting, is not progressive. And
what is the actual message here that's somehow meaningful or
(14:44):
interesting or true? Isn't one at least not that I
can see. Again, it just seems like he's trying to
be as transgressive as possible, but some taboos exist for
a reason. My friend Billy Binyon tweeted this epitomizes one
of the biggest problems with the new right, which is
that many, many of them cannot distinguish between canceled culture
and having standards. You simply do not have to praise
(15:06):
someone for saying hail Hitler. That's not intellectual bravery, it's depravity.
Jane Cousten, a liberal journalist who I am friendly with,
also tweeted at a certain point makes people mad. Is
not an ethos. Ted Bundy made people mad. I agree
with this, and I'll always stand for free speech and
I'll oppose canceled culture. But at the same time, I
feel like a lot of people have adopted this tribal
(15:28):
position where now they feel like they also then therefore
have to reflexively defend anything and have no standards at all.
It's actually not how it has to work. You can
be against canceling people for old opinions that didn't age well,
or for disproportionate consequences for people, while also understanding that
some speech will still have social consequences, and that you
(15:49):
don't have to accept and promote all opinions and perspectives,
no matter how vile. Also, just one note on the
Colbert vaccine thing, how can we be a by someone
saying hail Hitler, but not by a comedian's cringeworthy pro
vaccine propaganda, because one of those things is intrinsically evil
(16:11):
and the other one is cringe worthy but seemingly well intentioned.
I barely even know how to engage with that question, honestly,
because the two just seems so not remotely comparable. One
final point about this Ya controversy that I do want
to touch on is the fact that the song is
being outright banned from most platforms, including YouTube, Spotify, Apple, iTunes,
(16:36):
whatever it's called these days, and the like. Here's Joe
Rogan's take on that.
Speaker 8 (16:40):
There's a benefit to just letting people talk, Like, let
people say whatever they want to say, even if it sucks.
This is the benefit of Twitter. But this is also
the bad part. It's like, the song is so many
millions of hits, Yeah on Twitter. It's been banned from
every platform. But is it good to ban things from
platform or is it better to let it be out
(17:03):
there and let people talk about it, Because if you
ban it, then people want to hear it more, and
then it becomes more popular, and then it kind of
supports what he says, which is that there's this concerted
effort if you talk about Jewish people, that they're going
to remove you from everything, remove you from banking, which
is what he's saying. They run everything, So if they didn't, like,
(17:24):
if it was just you were talking shit about Puerto Ricans,
look what happened to Tony Nothing. Yeah, he's doing great. Yeah,
you know, what I mean, like, if there's certain people
that you're allowed to pick on and make jokes about
or mock or say something and you can get away
with it.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, well, I think he's made his point. I think
we all get it now. To be clear, Rogan is
not endorsing or supporting the song. He makes it very
clear elsewhere in the podcast, but he's saying he doesn't
think it should be censored. I don't find the comparison
to a joke that was offensive about Puerto Ricans quite
the same. This is several orders of magnitude different, but
I do on what take his point. These platforms do
(18:02):
have terms of service and standards, and they don't have
to allow literally all content, but there is something inconsistent
about it that rubs me the wrong way. You can
go on Spotify or Apple Music or any of these
platforms and find all sorts of songs that have incredibly violent, explicit,
(18:23):
hateful lyrics toward gay people, toward women, promoting acts of
sexual violence, so much more, slurs of all kinds. The
fact that Kanye's song is taken down because it's hateful
towards Jewish people and crazy obviously, but other stuff is
allowed to Fly, even though it's violent and it's hateful
(18:44):
and it has slurs of all kinds, does strike me
as unfair and inconsistent. And I do sometimes think that
sunshine can be a good disinfectant, and that almost these
platforms censoring this song sort of plays into his hand.
It's not because it actually proves Jews control everything. That's
not what it proves, but it does help him portray
(19:07):
himself as a victim. They want to censor the truth,
all this kind of stuff that almost makes it seem cooler,
more verbotan, more like forbidden fruit to you know, young
men who've grown up in this overly censorious, wote culture,
who like edged the appeal of edgy stuff. They're like, oh,
they don't want me to listen to this song, now
I have to. So I think that that approach is
(19:28):
probably counterproductive, is definitely not entirely consistent, and so I'm
kind of up two minds of it. I can see
the argument that, like listen, these platforms do have standards,
they don't have to allow every possible piece of music
or art on them. But at the same time, I think,
if you're not going to enforce those standards, strictly consistently,
and if censoring the content may actually make it more
(19:50):
appealing to people or draw more attention to it, then
it might just be better to let it on there
and let people hear it and hopefully come to the
correct conclusion that these are just the ramblings of a
disturbed and yes, hate filled mine. What do you guys think?
What do you make of all this controversy and of
the song itself? Do let me know in the comments,
(20:10):
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(20:34):
original content, including a video that will potentially be out
by the time this podcast airs. Okay, up next, We've
got another entry in our running category of please can
liberals just act normal? Here's a clip from a congressional
hearing featuring HHS Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F.
Kennedy Junior, that was interrupted by multiple left wing activists.
(20:57):
Take a listen.
Speaker 9 (21:09):
The witness will suspend, the committee will come to order.
Capitol Police are asked to remove.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
The individuals will carry moved.
Speaker 9 (21:16):
Members of the audience are reminded disruptions will not be tolerated.
Members of the audience reminded disruptions will not be permitted
while the committee conducts his business. Capitol Police are asked
(21:38):
to remove the individuals from the hearing room. That was
a made for c SPAN moment. The Secretary will resume.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
So, look, I've been a critic of RFK and a
lot of his views that I find to be incredibly suspect,
and I didn't support his nomination. I talk about it
on the show at the time. But this is simply
unhinged and kind of scary. I mean, remember the Kennedy
famili has faced multiple assassination attempts. So I understand why
RFK Junior a kind of like really flinched and seem
to be very scared by this sudden outburst. I understand
(22:21):
why you feel that way, and he shouldn't be made
to feel that way. Nobody, no public officials should. These
people should be arrested and charged with crimes. I believe
they have been. And just you know, one of the
guys there is actually the co founder of Ben and
Jerry's And I just don't understand how they think this
looks good for them, how they think this brings positive
(22:41):
support to their cause or attention to their message. I
don't think it does that at all. I think it
makes them look deranged and look radical and crazy and unpleasant,
and probably pushes people away from supporting their ideas and
makes their criticisms look less valid because they're being associated
with unhinged behavior. What was interesting about that is that
during the actual hearing, Democratic elected officials questioned DARF K
(23:05):
Junior in some ways where I thought they landed some
points on him through actual dialogue and discussion, not through
unhinged protests. I mean, here's one clip where they kind
of got him to make a pretty inconvenient admission.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
One thing that might be helpful is you've previously said
you've vaccinated your children. Just because I think this is
a helpful answer, and this isn't a gotcha, I promise
if you had a child today would you vaccinate that
child for measles?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
For measles? Probably for measles. I you know what I
would say is my opinions about vaccines are irrelevant. I
have directed Jay Badajara.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Sure no, Like I said, I don't want to.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
So that everybody can make that decision. But I you know,
I don't want to measles seem like I'm being evasive. Yeah,
but I don't think people should be taking advice medical advice.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Me right now, I got that, and I'm not asking
you to give them an advice, But would you vaccinate
your child for me?
Speaker 4 (24:05):
I answer that question directly that it will seem like
I'm giving advice to other people and I don't want
to be doing that. I want people to make but.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
That's kind of your jurisdiction because CDC does give advice, right,
I'm not trying to do it as it gotcha.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
It is just what so the fact that RFK Junior
just said people shouldn't be taking medical advice from me,
when he is literally in charge of the CDC under
his department HHS. He is the guy in charge of
public health agencies and he just admitted people shouldn't take
(24:38):
medical advice from him. That's not a great look for
your HHS secretary to say, and if you're a Democrat
who wants to discredit him, kind of just landed an
actual blow there through dialogue. What a radical concept, right,
But one thing that makes this even worse is the
guy who did the protest, or one of the guys
(25:00):
that Ben and Jerry's co founder later admitted in a
NewsNation interview with Chris Cuomo that it wasn't even about
RFK Junior.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
What is it about Bobby Kennedy that you believe is
worth getting arrested for. It didn't really have anything to
do with Bobby Kennedy. What it had to do with
is that Congress has been cutting money for Medicaid, the
healthcare for poor kids.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
So you just look even more unhinged when you're disrupting
someone just for a general protest and it's not even
about them or the topics specifically being discussed. Congrats, you
just made yourself look even worse. What a wild world
we live in. Sadly, this kind of stuff is not
even particularly unusual anymore, but still, let me know what
(25:47):
you think about it in the comments below. Finally, let's
take a look at a video that's spreading around the
internet right now from one lovely influencer warning guys, she
seems kind of unhiitm.
Speaker 7 (26:00):
Hey, maga. Is he dead yet? That's the only thing,
the only conversation that I want to have with you,
whether or not he's dead yet. That is the only
thing that I would want to hear out of your
mouth mouth. Is he dead yet? So stay off my
page unless you're coming to tell me that Donald is
(26:23):
dead as a door nail, a dirt nap gone.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
Otherwise, go fly guy, stay off my page.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Uh, she seems stable and lovely. Guys, It's actually not
normal to let politics break your brain to the point
where you are eagerly waiting on people's death. And regardless
of what side you are, if you find yourself feeling
that way about politics, you need to touch grass. Also,
(26:54):
no tea, no shade. What am I saying? Yes, t
yes shade. You do realize that, like we're Trump to die,
jd Vance would become president, right, and so everything you're
concerned about with the Trump administration would continue. In fact,
in some ways, Jade Vance may be more conservative or
even to the right of Donald Trump. On a whole
host of issues. Actually, so if anything, you might get
(27:16):
MAGA even harder. I mean, I don't know, guys. Maybe
there were always this many deranged, mentally ill people out there,
and just without the Internet, without social media, we didn't
hear from them or see them as much. Maybe that's
what's happening here. But I think it could also be
that there is a real and meaningful uptick in the
frequency with which people are having their brains absolutely broken
(27:39):
by politics. And that is not just on the liberal
left side. Although those videos are often funnier, I will say,
more comical, it's a real problem. I don't really know
how to fix it, but I do know that the
approach of people like this TikToker, that's not the way
to help our country heal and make progress. But what
(28:01):
do you guys think? Let me know in the comments.
All right, everybody. That'll be it for this episode of
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