July 23, 2025 • 21 mins
I finally made my debut on the debate show Piers Morgan Uncensored and it got... spicy. Or did it? I break it down in this episode of the Brad vs Everyone podcast.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I think it's pretty clear that Don Trump and the
White House put pressure on Paramount to get rid of him.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I went on Piers Morgan Uncensored for the spiciest and
most contentious debate of my life. Okay, not really, but
bear with me. We're going to break this down in
(00:27):
so much more on today's episode of The Red Versus
Everyone podcast, my daily show where we take on the
craziest ideas from across the internet, our media, and our politics,
and occasionally yap about me when I get up to
no good in the media or on the Internet. And
that's what happened this week because I finally got to
(00:47):
go on, as we'll discuss for our first segment here,
finally got to go on Piers Morgan Uncensored, the massive
YouTube show hosted by Piers Morgan where he has these
raucous political debates and and I've wanted to go on
for some time. I've reached out to the team in
the past, but they finally invited me and it was
a great experience. I was on alongside the Democratic fundraiser
(01:12):
turned mega strategist Lindy Lee, a former advisor to Kamala Harris,
who was behind the White dudes for Kamala Organization, Cringe
and the left wing journalist Brianna Joy Gray for a
debate panel, and the topics that came up were very interesting.
We had a great conversation that we're going to walk through,
(01:33):
but it ended up not being that contentious or that spicy. Really,
maybe if I get to go back, there'll be a
big debate moment or a big argument, and I'm always
up for that. But I wasn't going to engineer one
just for its own sake, So sorry about clickbaiting you
in the title, but what happened was actually a pretty
calm conversation about some interesting issues that we're going to
(01:55):
walk through. So first, here's the clip where he introduced
me for my uncensored debut.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I'm Mikey's on Sense of Debut, host of Brad Versus Everyone,
Brad Palumbos, Welcome.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
To all of you. This was just a cool moment
for me because I watched the show all the time.
I really like the show, even though it's quite chaotic
and raucous at times, and it's awesome to see myself
get on there and the Brad Versus Everyone crew represented,
So cool moment for me. Now, We then discussed the
drama over the cancelation of Stephen Colbert's late night comedy
(02:27):
show that was really just kind of like political babbling
and the hysterical reaction to it, which we've discussed on
this show at length. People literally, many Democrats, many liberal
media punt it's acting like it's some fascist event, some
dystopian thing, when in fact it was just a financial decision,
and we discussed that with peers.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Take a listen, let's talk first of all about Stephen Colbert.
Brad you kick us off. I've seen all sorts of
distraught liberals crying around about all this, but it seems
to be a fairly straightforward decision on multiple levels.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
The market has spoken, and when you have a show
that's losing forty million dollars a year get canceled, that's
not some act of fascism or creeping censorship or any
of the things that I've seen it described by panicked,
breathless democratic politicians and liberal media critics. I mean, even
on when they were granted anonymity. Insiders at CBS, which
(03:28):
probably lean liberal, probably don't like Trump, told CNN that
this was a financial decision, not a political one, So
the doomsday rhetoric about it is really misplaced, and it's
part of a broader boy who Cried Wolf phenomenon with Trump,
who I think has done a fair number of genuinely
concerning things, but many in liberal media and many democratic
(03:48):
politicians can't help but dial up the alarmism to attend
every time he does almost anything, and in this case,
when he didn't do anything at all. So I think
they're really discrediting themselves and legitimate criticism as they might
have about his positions on free speech or the free press.
When you look at him retaliating against the Wall Street
Journal recently and other things. Stop stop this constant meltdown
(04:10):
mode over everything. I thought I kind of cooked, kind
of ate with that. Like, however, what I'll say is,
I'm glad I made the point that this is the
boy who Cried Wolf all over again. Right, they're raising
alarm about Stephen Colbert, even though in this case it's
a nothing burger. But there are real concerns, like what
(04:30):
we talked about yesterday with Trump punishing the Wall Street
Journal for their reporting. It's like, why can't we talk
about those instead? Why do they always have to be
so panicked and hysterical and getting all worked up over
nothing rather than critiquing the real issues. Now, the white
dudes for Kamala on the panel, the strategist dude in
the middle there did try to argue that Trump was
(04:53):
behind the cancelation all along, and we're going to unpack
his argument.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Look, we're going through some big changes in the media
landscape right now, and I think Colbert enjoyed reading. Both
are emblematic of that. With Colbert in this case, two
things are true. I think it's pretty clear that Donald
Trump and the White House put pressure on Paramount to
get rid of him, and Donald Trump basically said as much.
He's literally celebrating it on social media.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I don't think Trump Trump listen.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Pierce, Trump is going on truth social and he's celebrating
Colbert getting canceled, and.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
He's saying that Jimmy Timple should be next.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
He's happy about it.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Donald Trump using the power of the federal goverment.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Guess yes, But by my boy, guess what. Guess what?
Donald Trump is happy the guys that's been slagging em
off for eight years, I'm not going to be doing
it anymore.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
So this is the thing for me. I don't find
it beyond the realm of possibility that Trump was somehow
involved in Colbert's cancelation, especially with the context of the
ongoing CPS merger where they're seeking approval from the anti
trust divisions at the federal government. But you have to
(06:03):
have some evidence, and he just asserted it without evidence
when we have CBS insiders again don't like Trump, even
anonymously speaking to CNN, say it wasn't about Trump, it
was about finances. If you're going to insist this was
Trump's doing, okay, I'm listening, But where is your evidence
(06:25):
of that. The fact that he's happy about it is
an evidence that he caused it. He could be happy
about something and cheering for something doesn't mean he directly
got involved and demanded that it happen. If he did,
just show your work to show us some proof of that.
But you can't and he didn't. Now, before we get
into the next clip, which was a vulgar one, that
(06:48):
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(07:30):
And now let's talk about Hunter Biden, because he just
gave you know, this is Joe Biden's very corrupt formerly
question mark over the former drug addict son who has
made so much news and I have been involved in
so much scandal. Well, he just gave a couple of
really bombshell interviews, including one with the YouTube channel Channel
(07:52):
five News with Andrew Callahan, which they do some funny
stuff and some interesting stuff like this interview where Hunter
went off and I'm not gonna lie he was entertaining
to listen to. He gave no f's, he called it
out and made some points that aren't totally invalid, but
(08:14):
as I explained to Peers, the whole thing is very hypocritical.
Let's listen to this extended exchange where we discussed this
with Hunter Biden.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah. I mean it's interesting, isn't it. I'll come back
to you, Brad. The Hunter Biden's given this explosive podcast
to which beliss shameless, shameless, but actually credibly watchable and interesting.
Just watch this clip of what he said about George Clooney.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Him, Jim, him and everybody around him. I don't have
to be nice number one. I agree with Quentin Tarantino.
George Clooney is not a actor. He is a like
I don't know what he is. He's a brand and
by the way, and God bless him. You know what
he's He treats his friends really well, you know what
(09:02):
I mean, buys them things, and he's got a really
great place in Lake Como, and he's great friends with
Barack Obama. You what do you have to do with anything?
Why do I have to listen to you? What right
do you have to step on a man who's given
fifty two years of his life to the service of
this country and decide that you George Clooney are going
to take out basically a full page ad in the
(09:22):
New York Times.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
You know, I did watch that and think he's got
a point. I mean, I did find the way that
people like Clooney behave, but they're all in on Biden
right to the point the debate happened, and then everybody
could see with their own eyes. Yeah, just how just
how appalling his cognitive condition had become. Only at that
stage they Clooney pressed the execution ramp with that New
(09:47):
York Times all paid.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah, it was really quite a one to eighty degree
turn that we saw from any of these people who
propped him up for years. I remember the mainstream media
coining the term cheap fakes to talk about video that
were real showing Biden's decline but just misleading. Somehow a
lot of them did do a one eighty though. I
do tend to take the approach in politics better late
(10:09):
than never to the correct position. I will say, obviously,
George Clooney stabed Biden in the back, but maybe he
was right to do so. He just should have done
it several years earlier. I found this Hunter Biden interview fascinating.
He's definitely a character, but it's also the whole thing
is insanely hypocritical. He's saying, who are you to listen to?
George Clooney. Hunter Biden is only known for being Joe
(10:32):
Biden's son and being put on boards of Ukrainian energy
companies because of his brand as a member of the
Biden other than that of Biden family. Other than that,
he's best known for being a deadbeat dad. And he
took shots at the liberal pod Save America Bros. Which
I'm no huge fan of. But he was like, you're
you just rode being a junior speech writer for Obama.
(10:53):
And I'm like, okay, but you just roaded being the
son of a politician. So I mean entertaining to watch.
He makes some good points, but the entire Hunter interview
is rife with some really galling hypocrisy and audacity.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
You know, well, I think he's just got to the stage,
Branda where he doesn't give up anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
So you guys have probably seen clips from this Hunter
interview going viral elsewhere, and I would love to know
your thoughts on it, because to me, it's like he
said some things where he kind of ate, like he
kind of was onto something like throwing shade at all
these people who are hypocrites and frauds and you know,
have just exploited his dad for money and fame and attention,
(11:33):
or who have exploited their loose connections to Obama for attention.
But it's like, dude, that's your entire life. Like, maybe
you can't throw stones from the most fragile of glasshouses
to ever be built. That was my take on it all.
(11:54):
And I'm also just like not really sure what purpose
this interview in terms of maybe he just doesn't give
an f anymore, Right, He's just like, whatever, we got
nothing to lose now, I'm just gonna go out there
and throw bombs. But how it helps the Democratic Party
in any way, how it helps make his dad look good,
(12:16):
I mean, that's beyond repair at this point. The absolute
calamity of this presidency, of the Biden presidency, and the
cover up over his health, all that is not going away.
It just kind of felt like Hunter wanted to lash
out and vent and it was entertaining, but I'm not
sure what it accomplished other than giving us fodder to
watch and munch popcorn. Two. What do you guys think, though,
(12:40):
So next on Peers, we discussed a story that I
actually haven't talked about yet publicly, although I have been
following it with some degree of interest, which is the
big Coldplay ceo scandal. So this CEO and his hr
head we're having an affair and we're caught canoodling by
(13:01):
the JumboTron at a Coldplay concert and freaked out and
it went megaviral, and now their lives have imploded. And
when this story first happened, I kind of was enjoying it.
I was kind of, you know, along for the ride, like, Haha,
you played stupid games, you won stupid prizes. Look at
these idiots, Look their lives are ruined. But then as
(13:22):
I saw their kids, particularly his kids, come out on
social media and like talk about how horrible an experience
it's been to have their families life up ended like this.
And after I read a really interesting essay in the
Free Press by Kat Rosenfield, which I will link to,
I evolved my view on it slightly, and I explained
(13:43):
that in this clip with Pierce, incredibly stupid on two levels,
One to go out when you're having an affair in
public like this, and two to freak out when the
camera panned to you, because if they had just played
it cool like a normal couple and kissed, it probably
would never have gone viral, their spouse is probably would
never have seen it, and this whole headache wouldn't have happened.
(14:03):
I have a hard time having too much sympathy for
either of them, because obviously, you know, they're doing an
incredibly immoral thing. They're putting their families through hell. I
will say, though, that I worry a little bit about
the extent to which society seems to revel in the
downfall like this, like hang on every word, if their
lives being destroyed and turned upside down. I'm not sure
(14:24):
it's healthy the way that culturally people tune in to
obsess to watch someone's life fall apart. I'm not sure
that's good for our souls as viewers and onlookers, to
take joy in the destruction of other people's lives, even
if that destruction is, in this case admittedly brought about.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Right.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah, well, I kind of agree. I agree with that.
I mean, Linda, the thing about it is, we're all
thoroughly entertained by this, but the reality of the fallout
from that is going to be pretty awful for their
families and so on, and there's a kind of glee
glee that people bring to that kind of thing, which
is a modern day curse driven by social media.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
So I want to hear what you guys think of this,
because I still do enjoy the story kind of and
like to see cheaters get their comeuppance and their karma,
because I really do think it's a horrible thing to do,
and especially to be so shameless about it. And the
HR aspect too, is something I hadn't thought about. But
one of the other panelists, Brown and Joy Gray, with
(15:20):
whom I disagree on most things, but she made an
interesting point that like HR people are supposed to be
enforcing the rules, and screwing your boss is typically not
allowed in major corporations these days. Yet the rules are
for thee, not for me, for at least for this
HR lady. So maybe that's one piece of why this
story blew up the way that it did. People have
(15:40):
some resentment towards human resources people sometimes for some of
the inconsistencies and some of the onerous nature of the
things that get imposed on them, but I do ultimately
still feel a grain of truth to the cat Ros
and Field criticism of this, which is that it's like
not good for our souls to revel in people's down
fall and to kind of clap like seals at lives
(16:05):
and families being destroyed and the torrent the torrential downpour
of hate and threats and insults and messages these people
are getting. It's not to say, you know, they're the
real victims here or anything like that, is just to
say that this public shaming, this like mob mentality. I
(16:27):
do think it's unhealthy for us, and maybe we need
to be a little more cautious about how we let
ourselves get emostly invested in the downfall of others. But
I'm sure I've done it. I'm sure I'm a guilty
party here as well. It's just an interesting criticism that
Cat raised that I wanted to make on the show
as well. So let me know what you think. And
(16:49):
we've got one final clip to unpack here from my
appearance on Peers where we talked about Ellen degenerous. And
I didn't even know this until the Peers people sent
me the story and told me about it, but the
basically disgraced at this point lesbian talk show host and
super celebrity has moved to the UK in fled America
(17:12):
because of Trump. Talking in the articles about this about
Trump's supposed or America these days supposed hostility to gay rights,
which I find kind of laughable. Listen to me and
Pierre's discussing this.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Now, I was going to win with a debate about
Ellen DeGeneres. There isn't time to debate it, but I
do want to just report that she has confirmed the
wide hell belief that she moved to the United Kingdom
because of Donald Trump, saying everything here is better, and
she says, we got here the day before the election
and woke up to lots of texts from our friends
(17:47):
with crying emojis, and I was like, he got in
and We're like, we're staying here. And the only thing
I want to say about this is why, why the
hell do we have to have a what have we done,
Kingdom done? What have we done to warrant Ellen bloody
(18:08):
degenerous over here? And when will you take her back?
Wanted to put your hand up and say I'm taking
her back.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I know we refuse to take her back. And I
just want to speak to the idea that she had
to flee America because it is he's a joke. Trump
appointed the highest level game ranking cabinet official of all remotely.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
And let me also say that Ellen is the real
reason she left America is that she left America under
a massive cloud because, unlike her on screen image of
being miss be kind to everybody, all her employees queued
up to brief that she was one of the least
can't even beings on the planet. So she became very unpopular,
lost her big gig, and everybody took against her for
(18:56):
being the very opposite of what her public image was
trying to pretend she was.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
So I didn't get a chance to say this, but
at least I'll give Ellen a little bit of credit
for actually walking the walk. I hate when the celebrities
say of Trump, whence I'm moving out of America, I'm
moving to Europe, and then they don't actually do it.
At least she left, and as far as I'm concerned,
she can stay. I've never been a big fan, and
I have plenty of criticisms of Donald Trump and of
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this administration on everything from free speech to immigration, to
trade policy and beyond, but I'm just never going to
buy this hysteria about how they're coming after days like
it's just literally not true. And so the fact that
people so wealthy and with all the access to all
the resources and information at their fingertips still fall for it,
to me is pathetic and lame. But other than that,
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Ellen's just great. Everyone that's ever worked with her says
she's lovely to be around and just the kindest person.
So yeah, that's all I have to say about miss
Ellen there and her lovely wife Porsche. What do you
guys think? Will you miss Ellen in the country with us?
Do you also feel the need to flee the country
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because you're a multi multi multi millionaire gay celebrity. I
do not, despite only being one of those three things, gay,
not celebrity nor multimillionaire, at least not yet. All right, guys,
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Speaker 1 (21:09):
Mhm.
I think it's pretty clear that Don Trump and the
White House put pressure on Paramount to get rid of him.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I went on Piers Morgan Uncensored for the spiciest and
most contentious debate of my life. Okay, not really, but
bear with me. We're going to break this down in
(00:27):
so much more on today's episode of The Red Versus
Everyone podcast, my daily show where we take on the
craziest ideas from across the internet, our media, and our politics,
and occasionally yap about me when I get up to
no good in the media or on the Internet. And
that's what happened this week because I finally got to
(00:47):
go on, as we'll discuss for our first segment here,
finally got to go on Piers Morgan Uncensored, the massive
YouTube show hosted by Piers Morgan where he has these
raucous political debates and and I've wanted to go on
for some time. I've reached out to the team in
the past, but they finally invited me and it was
a great experience. I was on alongside the Democratic fundraiser
(01:12):
turned mega strategist Lindy Lee, a former advisor to Kamala Harris,
who was behind the White dudes for Kamala Organization, Cringe
and the left wing journalist Brianna Joy Gray for a
debate panel, and the topics that came up were very interesting.
We had a great conversation that we're going to walk through,
(01:33):
but it ended up not being that contentious or that spicy. Really,
maybe if I get to go back, there'll be a
big debate moment or a big argument, and I'm always
up for that. But I wasn't going to engineer one
just for its own sake, So sorry about clickbaiting you
in the title, but what happened was actually a pretty
calm conversation about some interesting issues that we're going to
(01:55):
walk through. So first, here's the clip where he introduced
me for my uncensored debut.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I'm Mikey's on Sense of Debut, host of Brad Versus Everyone,
Brad Palumbos, Welcome.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
To all of you. This was just a cool moment
for me because I watched the show all the time.
I really like the show, even though it's quite chaotic
and raucous at times, and it's awesome to see myself
get on there and the Brad Versus Everyone crew represented,
So cool moment for me. Now, We then discussed the
drama over the cancelation of Stephen Colbert's late night comedy
(02:27):
show that was really just kind of like political babbling
and the hysterical reaction to it, which we've discussed on
this show at length. People literally, many Democrats, many liberal
media punt it's acting like it's some fascist event, some
dystopian thing, when in fact it was just a financial decision,
and we discussed that with peers.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Take a listen, let's talk first of all about Stephen Colbert.
Brad you kick us off. I've seen all sorts of
distraught liberals crying around about all this, but it seems
to be a fairly straightforward decision on multiple levels.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
The market has spoken, and when you have a show
that's losing forty million dollars a year get canceled, that's
not some act of fascism or creeping censorship or any
of the things that I've seen it described by panicked,
breathless democratic politicians and liberal media critics. I mean, even
on when they were granted anonymity. Insiders at CBS, which
(03:28):
probably lean liberal, probably don't like Trump, told CNN that
this was a financial decision, not a political one, So
the doomsday rhetoric about it is really misplaced, and it's
part of a broader boy who Cried Wolf phenomenon with Trump,
who I think has done a fair number of genuinely
concerning things, but many in liberal media and many democratic
(03:48):
politicians can't help but dial up the alarmism to attend
every time he does almost anything, and in this case,
when he didn't do anything at all. So I think
they're really discrediting themselves and legitimate criticism as they might
have about his positions on free speech or the free press.
When you look at him retaliating against the Wall Street
Journal recently and other things. Stop stop this constant meltdown
(04:10):
mode over everything. I thought I kind of cooked, kind
of ate with that. Like, however, what I'll say is,
I'm glad I made the point that this is the
boy who Cried Wolf all over again. Right, they're raising
alarm about Stephen Colbert, even though in this case it's
a nothing burger. But there are real concerns, like what
(04:30):
we talked about yesterday with Trump punishing the Wall Street
Journal for their reporting. It's like, why can't we talk
about those instead? Why do they always have to be
so panicked and hysterical and getting all worked up over
nothing rather than critiquing the real issues. Now, the white
dudes for Kamala on the panel, the strategist dude in
the middle there did try to argue that Trump was
(04:53):
behind the cancelation all along, and we're going to unpack
his argument.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Look, we're going through some big changes in the media
landscape right now, and I think Colbert enjoyed reading. Both
are emblematic of that. With Colbert in this case, two
things are true. I think it's pretty clear that Donald
Trump and the White House put pressure on Paramount to
get rid of him, and Donald Trump basically said as much.
He's literally celebrating it on social media.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
I don't think Trump Trump listen.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Pierce, Trump is going on truth social and he's celebrating
Colbert getting canceled, and.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
He's saying that Jimmy Timple should be next.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
He's happy about it.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Donald Trump using the power of the federal goverment.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Guess yes, But by my boy, guess what. Guess what?
Donald Trump is happy the guys that's been slagging em
off for eight years, I'm not going to be doing
it anymore.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
So this is the thing for me. I don't find
it beyond the realm of possibility that Trump was somehow
involved in Colbert's cancelation, especially with the context of the
ongoing CPS merger where they're seeking approval from the anti
trust divisions at the federal government. But you have to
(06:03):
have some evidence, and he just asserted it without evidence
when we have CBS insiders again don't like Trump, even
anonymously speaking to CNN, say it wasn't about Trump, it
was about finances. If you're going to insist this was
Trump's doing, okay, I'm listening, But where is your evidence
(06:25):
of that. The fact that he's happy about it is
an evidence that he caused it. He could be happy
about something and cheering for something doesn't mean he directly
got involved and demanded that it happen. If he did,
just show your work to show us some proof of that.
But you can't and he didn't. Now, before we get
into the next clip, which was a vulgar one, that
(06:48):
would be I think a great time to remind you
to subscribe if you haven't yet, to hit that legment
way at it to comment with your thoughts, because I
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And now let's talk about Hunter Biden, because he just
gave you know, this is Joe Biden's very corrupt formerly
question mark over the former drug addict son who has
made so much news and I have been involved in
so much scandal. Well, he just gave a couple of
really bombshell interviews, including one with the YouTube channel Channel
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five News with Andrew Callahan, which they do some funny
stuff and some interesting stuff like this interview where Hunter
went off and I'm not gonna lie he was entertaining
to listen to. He gave no f's, he called it
out and made some points that aren't totally invalid, but
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as I explained to Peers, the whole thing is very hypocritical.
Let's listen to this extended exchange where we discussed this
with Hunter Biden.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah. I mean it's interesting, isn't it. I'll come back
to you, Brad. The Hunter Biden's given this explosive podcast
to which beliss shameless, shameless, but actually credibly watchable and interesting.
Just watch this clip of what he said about George Clooney.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Him, Jim, him and everybody around him. I don't have
to be nice number one. I agree with Quentin Tarantino.
George Clooney is not a actor. He is a like
I don't know what he is. He's a brand and
by the way, and God bless him. You know what
he's He treats his friends really well, you know what
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I mean, buys them things, and he's got a really
great place in Lake Como, and he's great friends with
Barack Obama. You what do you have to do with anything?
Why do I have to listen to you? What right
do you have to step on a man who's given
fifty two years of his life to the service of
this country and decide that you George Clooney are going
to take out basically a full page ad in the
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New York Times.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
You know, I did watch that and think he's got
a point. I mean, I did find the way that
people like Clooney behave, but they're all in on Biden
right to the point the debate happened, and then everybody
could see with their own eyes. Yeah, just how just
how appalling his cognitive condition had become. Only at that
stage they Clooney pressed the execution ramp with that New
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York Times all paid.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah, it was really quite a one to eighty degree
turn that we saw from any of these people who
propped him up for years. I remember the mainstream media
coining the term cheap fakes to talk about video that
were real showing Biden's decline but just misleading. Somehow a
lot of them did do a one eighty though. I
do tend to take the approach in politics better late
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than never to the correct position. I will say, obviously,
George Clooney stabed Biden in the back, but maybe he
was right to do so. He just should have done
it several years earlier. I found this Hunter Biden interview fascinating.
He's definitely a character, but it's also the whole thing
is insanely hypocritical. He's saying, who are you to listen to?
George Clooney. Hunter Biden is only known for being Joe
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Biden's son and being put on boards of Ukrainian energy
companies because of his brand as a member of the
Biden other than that of Biden family. Other than that,
he's best known for being a deadbeat dad. And he
took shots at the liberal pod Save America Bros. Which
I'm no huge fan of. But he was like, you're
you just rode being a junior speech writer for Obama.
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And I'm like, okay, but you just roaded being the
son of a politician. So I mean entertaining to watch.
He makes some good points, but the entire Hunter interview
is rife with some really galling hypocrisy and audacity.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
You know, well, I think he's just got to the stage,
Branda where he doesn't give up anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
So you guys have probably seen clips from this Hunter
interview going viral elsewhere, and I would love to know
your thoughts on it, because to me, it's like he
said some things where he kind of ate, like he
kind of was onto something like throwing shade at all
these people who are hypocrites and frauds and you know,
have just exploited his dad for money and fame and attention,
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or who have exploited their loose connections to Obama for attention.
But it's like, dude, that's your entire life. Like, maybe
you can't throw stones from the most fragile of glasshouses
to ever be built. That was my take on it all.
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And I'm also just like not really sure what purpose
this interview in terms of maybe he just doesn't give
an f anymore, Right, He's just like, whatever, we got
nothing to lose now, I'm just gonna go out there
and throw bombs. But how it helps the Democratic Party
in any way, how it helps make his dad look good,
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I mean, that's beyond repair at this point. The absolute
calamity of this presidency, of the Biden presidency, and the
cover up over his health, all that is not going away.
It just kind of felt like Hunter wanted to lash
out and vent and it was entertaining, but I'm not
sure what it accomplished other than giving us fodder to
watch and munch popcorn. Two. What do you guys think, though,
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So next on Peers, we discussed a story that I
actually haven't talked about yet publicly, although I have been
following it with some degree of interest, which is the
big Coldplay ceo scandal. So this CEO and his hr
head we're having an affair and we're caught canoodling by
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the JumboTron at a Coldplay concert and freaked out and
it went megaviral, and now their lives have imploded. And
when this story first happened, I kind of was enjoying it.
I was kind of, you know, along for the ride, like, Haha,
you played stupid games, you won stupid prizes. Look at
these idiots, Look their lives are ruined. But then as
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I saw their kids, particularly his kids, come out on
social media and like talk about how horrible an experience
it's been to have their families life up ended like this.
And after I read a really interesting essay in the
Free Press by Kat Rosenfield, which I will link to,
I evolved my view on it slightly, and I explained
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that in this clip with Pierce, incredibly stupid on two levels,
One to go out when you're having an affair in
public like this, and two to freak out when the
camera panned to you, because if they had just played
it cool like a normal couple and kissed, it probably
would never have gone viral, their spouse is probably would
never have seen it, and this whole headache wouldn't have happened.
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I have a hard time having too much sympathy for
either of them, because obviously, you know, they're doing an
incredibly immoral thing. They're putting their families through hell. I
will say, though, that I worry a little bit about
the extent to which society seems to revel in the
downfall like this, like hang on every word, if their
lives being destroyed and turned upside down. I'm not sure
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it's healthy the way that culturally people tune in to
obsess to watch someone's life fall apart. I'm not sure
that's good for our souls as viewers and onlookers, to
take joy in the destruction of other people's lives, even
if that destruction is, in this case admittedly brought about.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Right.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah, well, I kind of agree. I agree with that.
I mean, Linda, the thing about it is, we're all
thoroughly entertained by this, but the reality of the fallout
from that is going to be pretty awful for their
families and so on, and there's a kind of glee
glee that people bring to that kind of thing, which
is a modern day curse driven by social media.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
So I want to hear what you guys think of this,
because I still do enjoy the story kind of and
like to see cheaters get their comeuppance and their karma,
because I really do think it's a horrible thing to do,
and especially to be so shameless about it. And the
HR aspect too, is something I hadn't thought about. But
one of the other panelists, Brown and Joy Gray, with
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whom I disagree on most things, but she made an
interesting point that like HR people are supposed to be
enforcing the rules, and screwing your boss is typically not
allowed in major corporations these days. Yet the rules are
for thee, not for me, for at least for this
HR lady. So maybe that's one piece of why this
story blew up the way that it did. People have
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some resentment towards human resources people sometimes for some of
the inconsistencies and some of the onerous nature of the
things that get imposed on them, but I do ultimately
still feel a grain of truth to the cat Ros
and Field criticism of this, which is that it's like
not good for our souls to revel in people's down
fall and to kind of clap like seals at lives
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and families being destroyed and the torrent the torrential downpour
of hate and threats and insults and messages these people
are getting. It's not to say, you know, they're the
real victims here or anything like that, is just to
say that this public shaming, this like mob mentality. I
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do think it's unhealthy for us, and maybe we need
to be a little more cautious about how we let
ourselves get emostly invested in the downfall of others. But
I'm sure I've done it. I'm sure I'm a guilty
party here as well. It's just an interesting criticism that
Cat raised that I wanted to make on the show
as well. So let me know what you think. And
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we've got one final clip to unpack here from my
appearance on Peers where we talked about Ellen degenerous. And
I didn't even know this until the Peers people sent
me the story and told me about it, but the
basically disgraced at this point lesbian talk show host and
super celebrity has moved to the UK in fled America
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because of Trump. Talking in the articles about this about
Trump's supposed or America these days supposed hostility to gay rights,
which I find kind of laughable. Listen to me and
Pierre's discussing this.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Now, I was going to win with a debate about
Ellen DeGeneres. There isn't time to debate it, but I
do want to just report that she has confirmed the
wide hell belief that she moved to the United Kingdom
because of Donald Trump, saying everything here is better, and
she says, we got here the day before the election
and woke up to lots of texts from our friends
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with crying emojis, and I was like, he got in
and We're like, we're staying here. And the only thing
I want to say about this is why, why the
hell do we have to have a what have we done,
Kingdom done? What have we done to warrant Ellen bloody
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degenerous over here? And when will you take her back?
Wanted to put your hand up and say I'm taking
her back.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I know we refuse to take her back. And I
just want to speak to the idea that she had
to flee America because it is he's a joke. Trump
appointed the highest level game ranking cabinet official of all remotely.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
And let me also say that Ellen is the real
reason she left America is that she left America under
a massive cloud because, unlike her on screen image of
being miss be kind to everybody, all her employees queued
up to brief that she was one of the least
can't even beings on the planet. So she became very unpopular,
lost her big gig, and everybody took against her for
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being the very opposite of what her public image was
trying to pretend she was.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
So I didn't get a chance to say this, but
at least I'll give Ellen a little bit of credit
for actually walking the walk. I hate when the celebrities
say of Trump, whence I'm moving out of America, I'm
moving to Europe, and then they don't actually do it.
At least she left, and as far as I'm concerned,
she can stay. I've never been a big fan, and
I have plenty of criticisms of Donald Trump and of
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this administration on everything from free speech to immigration, to
trade policy and beyond, but I'm just never going to
buy this hysteria about how they're coming after days like
it's just literally not true. And so the fact that
people so wealthy and with all the access to all
the resources and information at their fingertips still fall for it,
to me is pathetic and lame. But other than that,
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Ellen's just great. Everyone that's ever worked with her says
she's lovely to be around and just the kindest person.
So yeah, that's all I have to say about miss
Ellen there and her lovely wife Porsche. What do you
guys think? Will you miss Ellen in the country with us?
Do you also feel the need to flee the country
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because you're a multi multi multi millionaire gay celebrity. I
do not, despite only being one of those three things, gay,
not celebrity nor multimillionaire, at least not yet. All right, guys,
we're gonna leave it there for this episode of the
Bread Versus Everyone Podcast. Thank you all so much for
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