September 26, 2025 • 27 mins
Family members who identify as trans animals, best friend betrayal, and bullying at school... I offer my advice in this Voicemail Friday episode of the Brad vs Everyone podcast.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
One of my family members is now identifying as a
different species, and I have no idea what to do.
We're going to react to this and your other voicemails
and horror stories in this voicemail Friday episode of the
(00:21):
Brad Versus Everyone podcast, my daily show where we take
on Internet insanity, media craziness, and political madness, all from
an independent perspective. Guys, thanks for tuning in, and welcome
to another voicemail Friday episode of the show, where I
take your voice notes and voicemails and react to your
stories offer advice. The link if you are interested to
(00:42):
send one of those in is as always in the description. Up. First,
we're going to hear from somebody who genuinely has a
family member now identifying as an animal. Nope, it's not
just a meme anymore. This was kind of always the
natural progression of things, unfortunately in I view at least,
and now it's time to see where this is going.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Hi, Brad, I'm going to stay anonymous for this one,
but I have an extended family member who a while
back came out to me as trans species, saying that
in addition to human, they were another animal as well.
And this person is an adult, like, not like straight
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out of high school, but like a genuine, fully formed adult,
and I am feeling like my best move is to
just accept it and move on and say, you know what,
if this is how they cope with the world, let
them cope with the world that way. It's not my
place to stop their coping mechanism. But it also feels
(01:51):
different than a coping mechanism like meditation or prayer or exercise.
There's a lot of other mechanisms out there, and I
just don't know what my place is here.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
So my friend, thank you for the voicemail and sorry
about your predicament. You seem sweet and frankly a little
sweeter than me, because you're like, oh, I should just
respect this person and accept them as a coping mechanism. Now,
it's a pass for me. I mean, it's a hard
note for me. I would not acknowledge somebody else pretending
(02:26):
to be a different species delulu is not a solulu,
as I frequently say. And I'm I'm not sure you're
really helping somebody by just totally enabling their delusions and
confusion in this kind of way.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
And I.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Guess it also depends how close you are with this person, right,
because you said it's an extended family member, and sometimes
with extended family members were really close to them, but
sometimes we're really not that close, and we see them
twice a year, you know, like Thanksgiving and Christmas or whatever.
And in that scenario, I would suggest that you just
avoid it, right, like, no need to cause a conflict,
(03:03):
but do not I mean, certainly don't actively affirm them
as a giraffe or whatever the heck they are identifying as.
But if you just see them occasionally it's a distant relative,
then you can probably get away with just like not
really discussing it or not having to affirm it. You
can just be polite and avoid it. That's probably what
(03:24):
I would do, because I think that if you're really
encountering somebody who is identifying as a different species, not
even as a mean but like actually thinks they're part
elephant or whatever, they're probably a little bit beyond reaching
unless you have a close relationship with them. And I
guess that's the other scenario. And if this is a
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cousin who you grew up with or somebody with whom
you have a close relationship, they are important to you.
And you are important to them. Then what I would
recommend is that you take them aside, you sit down
with them, and you say, listen, you know I love you,
and you know I care about you, and you know
I have your best interest at heart, right And then
you'd say, well, I just want to talk to you
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about this thing you told us about how you're identifying
as a different species. I want to tell you, I can't.
You are a free person, you are an adult in
this world. You are free to say whatever you want
about yourself, feel about however you want about yourself. I
don't feel that I can participate in that because I
think it is a fact that you are a human.
(04:30):
I do not think you are anything other than that,
and I don't feel comfortable participating in kind of a
fiction otherwise. So I am happy to talk about it
more with you. I'm happy to not talk about it
and just agree to disagree and kind of put it
over here and continue our relationship. But I want it
to be transparent with you about how I'm feeling about this,
(04:53):
and so we could talk it through together because I
do love you and I do care about you, and
hopefully could go somewhere from that so I think it's
That's my advice to you, my friend. It really depends
on the intimacy of the relationship in the extended family members.
But no, this is not like a prayer, it's not
like meditation. It's de lulu and Delulu is not a solulu.
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What do you guys think? Let me know in the comments.
How would you handle this in your family. I'm genuinely
quite curious. We'd love to hear from you, guys. Make
sure subscribe to the like button YadA YadA yah, and
if you want to send in your own voicemail, the
links as always in the description. Okay, up, next, we're
gonna hear from somebody else who was betrayed by their
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trans identifying ex best friend. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Hey, Brad, this is Olivia. I'm nineteen and my best
friend from preschool transition at fifteen, which doesn't have much
to do with the story other than to tell you
the political beliefs of the person. I suppose, but we
stop being friends over a year ago, completely unrelated to politics.
He basically just blamed all his problems on me. Anyways,
I never shared my political believes because obviously it would
not be welcome, but I also didn't care much until
(06:03):
the most recent election. But anyways, I ended up posting
a bit of a tribute to Charlie Kirk because I
was sick of being silent, especially when there were so
many people that I literally knew posting and celebration, which
is like disgusting rights bock so many people. Also, this
is my first political post ever, like kind of adding
myself right because I live in LA so you know,
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like two people agree with me, and I posted on
my notes quoting Charlie Kirk saying when discourse ends, violence begins,
which is like how dare I? And either someone said
it to my ex best friend or he's just creeping
on my page because we don't even follow each other.
But he posts a screenshot of my note on his
story and says, this is going on the public story
because I need everyone to lock in, oh at once, please,
(06:45):
Like what? I was so confused, Like what was the goal?
Would you like me murdered as well? You know, like
if the goal was to expose me, Like I literally
have a significant amount of more followers than you, so
I'm exposing myself more than you were exposing me. So
I just don't understand the point. I had a feeling
he just wanted to get reaction out of me, or
(07:05):
like maybe maybe he missed me or something. But that's
why I just completely ignored it. I blocked him and
didn't say anything to you him loved.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Oh my gosh, I love you. You're my new favorite.
I just send me a voicemail every week with the
tea and I'll just sip my coffee and I'll be like,
oh my god, he said, what slay joking aside, You
really didn't do anything wrong, And guys, I would be
so real with y'all. I would be one hundred with
you if you send me a voicemail voicemail and I'm
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listening and I'm like, wait, you might be the problem,
Like you might be the de lulu. I will tell
you all that because I believe in tough love. But
this is not one of those cases. Okay, that's not
in the room with us at the moment. You did
nothing wrong. You just said it's bad to murder people
because they have a different idea than you, or because
they say words that upset some other people, which just
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makes you saying like this is my common theme to
you guys, you're not the crazy one, okay, And anybody
who feels the need to put you on blast for
such an anodyne milk toast common sense take, you are
one thousand percent better off with that person not in
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your life. So it's real simple to me what you
got to do with this friend? Block mute elite and
then you know what, they can post whatever they want
about you to the story, to their stories, and you
just don't look, ignore it, move on, make friends that
aren't crazy. And I know you live in LA, but
the take that like it's wrong to murder people? I
(08:40):
think still most people in LA might agree with you,
and the ones that don't you really don't want to
be around because I'm It's not like you can't be
friends with Libs or Democrats. Of course you can. But
if they can't agree that it's wrong to murder Charlie
Kirk for just because he has of views they find offensive,
and that means they really would be okay with you
being murdered, don't deserve friends who would be okay with
(09:01):
you being murdered? Right like that? How do I even
have to say that what in the twenty twenty five
is going on where I even feel compelled to say
that out loud as a sentence. But anyway, you get
my point, and you might be surprised. Low key, there's
more people in LA who might not actually be lived out.
You might be surprised. So maybe try to connect with
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some more of them, and regardless, just make friends who
aren't crazy, and just ignore the craziest and leave them
in your past. But I do love the tea, So
thank you for the voicemail. Thank you for the dramatic
reading of I really enjoyed that. And guys, if you
want to send in a voice rail, remember the link
is in the description. Up next, we are going to
(09:47):
hear from somebody again who gosh, just y'all have the
craziest experiences sometimes. Let's listen to this next person who
was shocker baselessly accused of.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Being rac hey, Brad, it's Marie. I'm sure you've gotten
a lot of these in the wake of Charlie Kirk,
but I've got my own wokhre story. I made a
post on Instagram after the assassination, starting with the phrase
whether you agree with Charlie Kirk or not, It's important
to note that I'm very moderate and I've just proceeded
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to condemn political violence and encourage everyone I know to
continue to have conversations across the aisle and really hear
people out. And one of my friends I've known for years,
she's actually my neighbor as well, reached out to me
to say she could not believe that I would make
(10:42):
a post like that, that I am complicit and tolerant
of violence against minority communities, and that she was really
disappointed in me. And I asked her if she'd ever
watched Charlie Kirk, and she said she's watched one video.
So I sent her a video debunking all of these
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lies going around about Charlie Kirk and his views, and
she said she refuses to watch it because it'll be
too triggering for her, and then accused me of not
wanting to have a conversation and told me she has
no choice but to assume that I am racist and bigoted.
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So that's my story, Thanks, Brad, How great one.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Oh my gosh, y'all, how are these people real? I
know they exist, but how do they actually exist? It
will never cease to amaze me how obnoxious some people are.
Imagine that like making believing all these things about someone
based on one video. Then someone sends you other evidence,
You're like, I can't watch that, it's triggering. So then
you just have an unfalsifiable belief system. Right, You've assumed
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something as true and then can't be convinced otherwise because
you won't literally even consume the evidence or arguments against it.
That's like a cult like belief at that point. That's
not a rational position. However, the I almost wish you
had gone about it a little bit differently, though. Let
me explain. I think litigating Charlie Kirk's beliefs with these
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people is a mistake because, I mean, Charlie was a
controversial figure. I've been very outspoken against what happened him
and it does not matter. But he said edgy things.
He had a trollish element to him at times, And
with anybody, regardless, who spent thousands of hours on camera
and on microphone, you're gonna be able to find a
couple sound bites that age poorly or sound horrible out
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of context, and so litigating no, no, he's not bad.
He never said he didn't mean that when he said that.
To me, that almost feels like a lost endeavor or
a fruitless endeavor. When it comes to reasoning with these
woke people. You're not going to convince them that he
wasn't problematic, right, Okay, they think freakin' aunt Jemima is problematic,
all right? Like, so a better thing, I think is
(13:00):
to focus on the original message of your post, which
is just that it's wrong and unamerican to kill people
for their ideas or words. And if somebody, this neighbor,
this friend can't agree with that, I mean that's on them.
You are not the crazy one, you're not the problem there.
Then you're not the bad guy they are. And it's
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hard because relationships are complicated and people are multi dimensional.
So just because someone has delusional politics or has a
victim mindset doesn't mean they're an unambiguously bad person. Doesn't
mean they can't be a positive part of your life.
But I think you should just explain your position to
this person, say this is my belief. You can respect
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it or you cannot. That's up to you. And then
if they choose to cut you off or remove themselves,
then that speaks to them, not you. You've stood on
business for what's right and what's ethical and moral and
they've thrown a pissy fit and called you name since
made a bunch of unfair assumptions about you. At the
end of the day, you can't control what other people
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think or say about you. You can just control what
you actually are and what you do, and in that case,
you will have done nothing wrong. And if she chooses to,
I think it's a she here your cut you off
or remove yourself from your life, then, like the trash
takes itself out sometimes, babe. That's all I got to say.
You can hopefully make some new friends that aren't crazy
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obsessed with seeing victimhood everywhere and low key supportive of
political terrorism. Because she doesn't sound like a fun hang
I'll just say that, like, she doesn't exactly sound like
a fun girl to get brunch with. I don't know.
That's just my take at least you guys feel free
to chime in on this situation in the comments down below.
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Now we're gonna hear from somebody up north in Canada
about it. Insane like genuinely unhinged experience they had in school.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
Let's listen, Hi, this is a story from my high
school in Canada. I'm seventeen and I just finished our
first readthrough of the school play. The drama teacher started
talking about Donald Trump. The topic just changed their naturally
and Charlie Kirk. Then the teacher said how she had
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to apologize to her class because she let out a
little dance when she learned Charlie Kirk when being assassinated.
At that moment, she goes at his debt and.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
Then they started talking about how happy they were that
Donald Trump was dying. The teacher actually said he should
be dead. And then for a solid minute there were
cheers at the death of Charlie Kirk. Thirty five kids
and a teacher cheering as I just sat there trying
(15:56):
not to break down in tears or laughter or disbelief anything,
as people who I trusted sort of laughing, like sharing
and whistling at death of political opponents. Yeah, thanks for listening,
have a great day. Hope this doesn't ruin it. Bye.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
No, I thank you for the voicemail. Much appreciated, and
I'm really sorry you had to go through that. My
first thought is that you should talk to your parents
about this, assuming you haven't already. Maybe they're more on
the conservative side, maybe they're not, but they're just sane
and they don't want this kind of thing going on
in your school, but they should.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Really.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I don't know exactly how the system of Canadian governance works,
but like here, we would have a school board, right
and a local school board that's elected, and you can
go present this and at one of their meetings and
demand some sort of accountability. You should do whatever process
you can to file some sort of complaint against this
teacher because this is really inappropriate. This is not even
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the situation, and that's more nuanced, I think, which is
when you have a teacher, maybe on their personal Facebook page,
writing something distasteful. This is them in the classroom celebrating
terrorism that is unacceptable and then encouraging students to be
okay with murder. That is a wild and flagrant abuse
of your position, of your authority as a teacher, all
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done on the taxpayer dime. So I really think you
should should file many complaints. You should also contact some
form of conservative media in Canada. Maybe it's the post
millennial rebel news. I don't know, I'm not super familiar
with the Canadian ecosystem and let them know about this situation,
because if you could draw some sort of national political
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spotlight or even regional political spotlight to it. That might
help you get accountability. And it's probably possible for you
to stay anonymous while doing that as well. So I
would really encourage you, but rest assured, I would encourage
you to take some action, to try to do something
to push back on this. Hopefully your parents could help
you out, because you shouldn't have to shoulder that burden,
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you know, as just a student. But rest assured, even
if you decide not to take action, I understand it's
not easy, it's daunting and sounds like you're in an
environment where they're the majority. But just because you're in
that kind of a bubble, I want to make sure
that you don't even for a second think that you
are the crazy one. You are not the crazy one. Okay,
(18:29):
just because a lot of people around you hold U
certa an opinion doesn't mean that that's actually a majority opinion,
or that most people think like that. Like, there's such
a thing as an echo chamber or a bubble, and
it sounds like you're in one where people are kind
of deranged. I've been in them before. But rest assured
that you are not the crazy one. They are, and
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you have some basic common decency and sense, and they have,
let I don't know, ideology, partisanship, tribalism wrought their brains
into mud and bring them to a hateful and dark place.
But whatever you do, don't fall guilty, don't fall into
the same kind of thinking in reverse, because it's not
good for your soul really to be so dark and
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consumed by hatred that you're worshiping death or celebrating murder.
That's a bleak place to be. So in another sense,
you should also have pity for these people, because it's
kind of sad that that's where they are in their
lives and in their thinking, that they're in such a
dark and hopeless place themselves, that they're celebrating the death
of someone else. That's pitiful. But you're not the crazy one.
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And I really encourage you to maybe through one of
the venues that I suggested, maybe through something else your
parents might be able to help with take some sort
of action against this, because I do think we have
a duty as common sense, decent people to stand up
for basic decency and what's right in our communities when
we see something wrong. And what you've described is beyond wrong.
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It is incomprehensibly inappropriate evil. That's my thought. You guys
feel free to weigh in on what you think in
the comments below. Next, we are going to hear from
somebody who encountered a non binary teacher, because that's a
thing that we have now and that's just wonderful. Let's listen.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
Hey, Brad, I firstly just wanted to say I absolutely
love your videos. I have been watching you relentlessly in
twenty twenty five. You helped me realize I was way
more center than I thought I was, so I'm solidly
center left leaning these days. Anyway. This is in response
to the Normal Gaze video you and Clarkson made regarding
non binary teachers. I myself am a teacher. I'm not
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going to say what country because this accent may or
may not be fake, and I can't really give away
my opinions because when you work in the education sector,
you can't really give away like political opinions because it
can't reflect the government and the public school system. It's crazy. Anyway,
I work with non binary teacher. I work in a
high school in a low socioeconomic area, and their long
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address is missus because they fought really hard to get
married to their wife. Their short address is sir, and
obviously they go by them pronouns. It's really hard for
them to get very religious kids in their class. I mean,
we work in a public school, so it's not about religion,
but it's hard for them to get the religious kids
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in class because they don't believe in non binary. As
well as this teacher being very outspoken about gender and pronouns.
They even got the words male and female removed from
the staff bathrooms, but the student's bathrooms still have boys
and girls on them. Anyway, it's a lot. I thought
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you want to hear about it?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Bye, Yeah, I am. I don't want to say I'm
happy to hear about it because I wish it wasn't
happening so I didn't have to hear about it. But
I'm glad to know. I guess if it is happening,
i'd brought or no than not know. And I just
think it's crazy because this person doesn't even make sense
missus sir, and they them. It's like pick a struggle, babe,
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pick a struggle. I can't keep up, and neither can
these kids. And you are using your position of authority
to promote ideological agendas and nonsense. Non Binary is an ideology.
It is a political belief system. It's not some like, oh,
just like black people existing. It's not comparable to that
gay people existing. It's not comparable to that. You are
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teaching children a certain set of ideas about human sex
and gender ideology that is very controversial, I would argue,
is actually kind of regressive, and really, I think you
should be totally free to call yourself whatever you please,
live however you want in your own life. I don't
really think you should be allowed to push that on
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kids in schools really at all. And maybe that makes
me some sort of bigotistism. I don't really care at
this point, because I'm just going to say what I
think and what is right, and I think that is
a load of nonsense, And yeah, I'm not sure there's
a whole lot you can do about it if you're
in a kind of depends on the political and cultural
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atmosphere or just temperature of the discourse where you are,
because you didn't mention what country or what part of
the world. But it's not right and people should push
back on it when it happens in their communities. I
don't know, but I'm sorry that that's happening. Hopefully you
can just be a good role model for your students
and offer them a saner alternative, and maybe enough people
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will just opt out of that person's class that the
administrators will realize, like, hey, there's a problem here. Maybe
I don't know, maybe that's the solution. You guys, let
me know what you all think in the comments. Okay,
one last note here that we're going to wrap up.
This is from somebody who identifies as trans and is
more on the conservative side, but has still had some
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negative experiences. Let's listen.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Okay. So, hi, Brad, I wanted to put in this
insane story. So for context, I am an almost seventeen
year old trans girl, like transsexual whatever. I am extremely conservative,
and for a couple of years I went to this
like Catholic Christian private school and I was doing an
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online like academy basically, and there were some kids who
absolutely hated my guts so much they made a group
chat called the kkk of and it was my dead name,
and basically there was about like sixty members from my
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really big school in it, and they were just like
my biggest haters. So that just goes to show you
that no matter how conservative you are, even if your
trans or whatever, like, people will always be out to hate.
And yeah, you just have to live your life for you.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Wow, I'm really sorry you happen. Kids can be such jerks.
It's just like, it's just bullying. Bullying is never okay.
Trans not trans, conservative, liberal, It shouldn't really matter. It's wrong.
Hopefully you reported that to your school and you told
your parents about it. It's not okay for your classmates
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to treat you like that, no matter how they feel
about gender or any of these issues or beliefs. Bullying
is bullying and it's not okay. I would maybe just say, like,
don't really view it as a reflection of you. It's
just them being dumb and immature and mushy brained, and
a lot of them will probably look back in a
few years time and be embarrassed about that. But it's
(25:50):
not about you. It's about them, I guess. And yeah,
it sounds like you're in a strong place because you
can't control what the world thinks of you. Like my
personal there are thousands of people out there who hate
my guts right because of my political views, because of
my commentary, because of my work. Who think that I'm
like a cancer on society everywhere? Like seriously, And if
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you let what other people think defying you, that is
a recipe for life long unhappiness. You have to be
strong in your sense of self. You have to know
who you are, what you stand for, and be proud
of it and okay with it, and then let the
people think whatever they want to think, let them say
whatever they want to say, if you can be a
rock in and of yourself. And that's really hard to
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do for anybody at seventeen years old. Okay, I certainly
didn't have it then, but that's where you can strive to.
And it sounds like you're already kind of in that place.
But yeah, it doesn't matter if you're conservative or not.
The bullying is not okay. I'm really sorry that happened
to you. It's not acceptable, and I think everybody should
just remember, no matter our disagreements, no matter what different
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beliefs we may have about these issues, we should always
try to be kind to each other. And this world
is just a dark place these days in a lot
of ways. And I'm really sorry that happened to you.
Stay strong and keep on working unforming. Just a strong
sense of yourself and knowing who you are, let you
believe in and don't let the world get you down.
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That's my advice at least. But thank you all so much.
That'll be it for this episode of the Bread Versus
Everyone podcast. Thank you for tuning in. Make sure subscribe
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and with that, guys, we'll talk again. Real sick
One of my family members is now identifying as a
different species, and I have no idea what to do.
We're going to react to this and your other voicemails
and horror stories in this voicemail Friday episode of the
(00:21):
Brad Versus Everyone podcast, my daily show where we take
on Internet insanity, media craziness, and political madness, all from
an independent perspective. Guys, thanks for tuning in, and welcome
to another voicemail Friday episode of the show, where I
take your voice notes and voicemails and react to your
stories offer advice. The link if you are interested to
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send one of those in is as always in the description. Up. First,
we're going to hear from somebody who genuinely has a
family member now identifying as an animal. Nope, it's not
just a meme anymore. This was kind of always the
natural progression of things, unfortunately in I view at least,
and now it's time to see where this is going.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Hi, Brad, I'm going to stay anonymous for this one,
but I have an extended family member who a while
back came out to me as trans species, saying that
in addition to human, they were another animal as well.
And this person is an adult, like, not like straight
(01:27):
out of high school, but like a genuine, fully formed adult,
and I am feeling like my best move is to
just accept it and move on and say, you know what,
if this is how they cope with the world, let
them cope with the world that way. It's not my
place to stop their coping mechanism. But it also feels
(01:51):
different than a coping mechanism like meditation or prayer or exercise.
There's a lot of other mechanisms out there, and I
just don't know what my place is here.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
So my friend, thank you for the voicemail and sorry
about your predicament. You seem sweet and frankly a little
sweeter than me, because you're like, oh, I should just
respect this person and accept them as a coping mechanism. Now,
it's a pass for me. I mean, it's a hard
note for me. I would not acknowledge somebody else pretending
(02:26):
to be a different species delulu is not a solulu,
as I frequently say. And I'm I'm not sure you're
really helping somebody by just totally enabling their delusions and
confusion in this kind of way.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
And I.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Guess it also depends how close you are with this person, right,
because you said it's an extended family member, and sometimes
with extended family members were really close to them, but
sometimes we're really not that close, and we see them
twice a year, you know, like Thanksgiving and Christmas or whatever.
And in that scenario, I would suggest that you just
avoid it, right, like, no need to cause a conflict,
(03:03):
but do not I mean, certainly don't actively affirm them
as a giraffe or whatever the heck they are identifying as.
But if you just see them occasionally it's a distant relative,
then you can probably get away with just like not
really discussing it or not having to affirm it. You
can just be polite and avoid it. That's probably what
(03:24):
I would do, because I think that if you're really
encountering somebody who is identifying as a different species, not
even as a mean but like actually thinks they're part
elephant or whatever, they're probably a little bit beyond reaching
unless you have a close relationship with them. And I
guess that's the other scenario. And if this is a
(03:47):
cousin who you grew up with or somebody with whom
you have a close relationship, they are important to you.
And you are important to them. Then what I would
recommend is that you take them aside, you sit down
with them, and you say, listen, you know I love you,
and you know I care about you, and you know
I have your best interest at heart, right And then
you'd say, well, I just want to talk to you
(04:08):
about this thing you told us about how you're identifying
as a different species. I want to tell you, I can't.
You are a free person, you are an adult in
this world. You are free to say whatever you want
about yourself, feel about however you want about yourself. I
don't feel that I can participate in that because I
think it is a fact that you are a human.
(04:30):
I do not think you are anything other than that,
and I don't feel comfortable participating in kind of a
fiction otherwise. So I am happy to talk about it
more with you. I'm happy to not talk about it
and just agree to disagree and kind of put it
over here and continue our relationship. But I want it
to be transparent with you about how I'm feeling about this,
(04:53):
and so we could talk it through together because I
do love you and I do care about you, and
hopefully could go somewhere from that so I think it's
That's my advice to you, my friend. It really depends
on the intimacy of the relationship in the extended family members.
But no, this is not like a prayer, it's not
like meditation. It's de lulu and Delulu is not a solulu.
(05:16):
What do you guys think? Let me know in the comments.
How would you handle this in your family. I'm genuinely
quite curious. We'd love to hear from you, guys. Make
sure subscribe to the like button YadA YadA yah, and
if you want to send in your own voicemail, the
links as always in the description. Okay, up, next, we're
gonna hear from somebody else who was betrayed by their
(05:37):
trans identifying ex best friend. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Hey, Brad, this is Olivia. I'm nineteen and my best
friend from preschool transition at fifteen, which doesn't have much
to do with the story other than to tell you
the political beliefs of the person. I suppose, but we
stop being friends over a year ago, completely unrelated to politics.
He basically just blamed all his problems on me. Anyways,
I never shared my political believes because obviously it would
not be welcome, but I also didn't care much until
(06:03):
the most recent election. But anyways, I ended up posting
a bit of a tribute to Charlie Kirk because I
was sick of being silent, especially when there were so
many people that I literally knew posting and celebration, which
is like disgusting rights bock so many people. Also, this
is my first political post ever, like kind of adding
myself right because I live in LA so you know,
(06:24):
like two people agree with me, and I posted on
my notes quoting Charlie Kirk saying when discourse ends, violence begins,
which is like how dare I? And either someone said
it to my ex best friend or he's just creeping
on my page because we don't even follow each other.
But he posts a screenshot of my note on his
story and says, this is going on the public story
because I need everyone to lock in, oh at once, please,
(06:45):
Like what? I was so confused, Like what was the goal?
Would you like me murdered as well? You know, like
if the goal was to expose me, Like I literally
have a significant amount of more followers than you, so
I'm exposing myself more than you were exposing me. So
I just don't understand the point. I had a feeling
he just wanted to get reaction out of me, or
(07:05):
like maybe maybe he missed me or something. But that's
why I just completely ignored it. I blocked him and
didn't say anything to you him loved.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Oh my gosh, I love you. You're my new favorite.
I just send me a voicemail every week with the
tea and I'll just sip my coffee and I'll be like,
oh my god, he said, what slay joking aside, You
really didn't do anything wrong, And guys, I would be
so real with y'all. I would be one hundred with
you if you send me a voicemail voicemail and I'm
(07:36):
listening and I'm like, wait, you might be the problem,
Like you might be the de lulu. I will tell
you all that because I believe in tough love. But
this is not one of those cases. Okay, that's not
in the room with us at the moment. You did
nothing wrong. You just said it's bad to murder people
because they have a different idea than you, or because
they say words that upset some other people, which just
(07:57):
makes you saying like this is my common theme to
you guys, you're not the crazy one, okay, And anybody
who feels the need to put you on blast for
such an anodyne milk toast common sense take, you are
one thousand percent better off with that person not in
(08:18):
your life. So it's real simple to me what you
got to do with this friend? Block mute elite and
then you know what, they can post whatever they want
about you to the story, to their stories, and you
just don't look, ignore it, move on, make friends that
aren't crazy. And I know you live in LA, but
the take that like it's wrong to murder people? I
(08:40):
think still most people in LA might agree with you,
and the ones that don't you really don't want to
be around because I'm It's not like you can't be
friends with Libs or Democrats. Of course you can. But
if they can't agree that it's wrong to murder Charlie
Kirk for just because he has of views they find offensive,
and that means they really would be okay with you
being murdered, don't deserve friends who would be okay with
(09:01):
you being murdered? Right like that? How do I even
have to say that what in the twenty twenty five
is going on where I even feel compelled to say
that out loud as a sentence. But anyway, you get
my point, and you might be surprised. Low key, there's
more people in LA who might not actually be lived out.
You might be surprised. So maybe try to connect with
(09:23):
some more of them, and regardless, just make friends who
aren't crazy, and just ignore the craziest and leave them
in your past. But I do love the tea, So
thank you for the voicemail. Thank you for the dramatic
reading of I really enjoyed that. And guys, if you
want to send in a voice rail, remember the link
is in the description. Up next, we are going to
(09:47):
hear from somebody again who gosh, just y'all have the
craziest experiences sometimes. Let's listen to this next person who
was shocker baselessly accused of.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
Being rac hey, Brad, it's Marie. I'm sure you've gotten
a lot of these in the wake of Charlie Kirk,
but I've got my own wokhre story. I made a
post on Instagram after the assassination, starting with the phrase
whether you agree with Charlie Kirk or not, It's important
to note that I'm very moderate and I've just proceeded
(10:21):
to condemn political violence and encourage everyone I know to
continue to have conversations across the aisle and really hear
people out. And one of my friends I've known for years,
she's actually my neighbor as well, reached out to me
to say she could not believe that I would make
(10:42):
a post like that, that I am complicit and tolerant
of violence against minority communities, and that she was really
disappointed in me. And I asked her if she'd ever
watched Charlie Kirk, and she said she's watched one video.
So I sent her a video debunking all of these
(11:04):
lies going around about Charlie Kirk and his views, and
she said she refuses to watch it because it'll be
too triggering for her, and then accused me of not
wanting to have a conversation and told me she has
no choice but to assume that I am racist and bigoted.
(11:26):
So that's my story, Thanks, Brad, How great one.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Oh my gosh, y'all, how are these people real? I
know they exist, but how do they actually exist? It
will never cease to amaze me how obnoxious some people are.
Imagine that like making believing all these things about someone
based on one video. Then someone sends you other evidence,
You're like, I can't watch that, it's triggering. So then
you just have an unfalsifiable belief system. Right, You've assumed
(11:52):
something as true and then can't be convinced otherwise because
you won't literally even consume the evidence or arguments against it.
That's like a cult like belief at that point. That's
not a rational position. However, the I almost wish you
had gone about it a little bit differently, though. Let
me explain. I think litigating Charlie Kirk's beliefs with these
(12:15):
people is a mistake because, I mean, Charlie was a
controversial figure. I've been very outspoken against what happened him
and it does not matter. But he said edgy things.
He had a trollish element to him at times, And
with anybody, regardless, who spent thousands of hours on camera
and on microphone, you're gonna be able to find a
couple sound bites that age poorly or sound horrible out
(12:36):
of context, and so litigating no, no, he's not bad.
He never said he didn't mean that when he said that.
To me, that almost feels like a lost endeavor or
a fruitless endeavor. When it comes to reasoning with these
woke people. You're not going to convince them that he
wasn't problematic, right, Okay, they think freakin' aunt Jemima is problematic,
all right? Like, so a better thing, I think is
(13:00):
to focus on the original message of your post, which
is just that it's wrong and unamerican to kill people
for their ideas or words. And if somebody, this neighbor,
this friend can't agree with that, I mean that's on them.
You are not the crazy one, you're not the problem there.
Then you're not the bad guy they are. And it's
(13:23):
hard because relationships are complicated and people are multi dimensional.
So just because someone has delusional politics or has a
victim mindset doesn't mean they're an unambiguously bad person. Doesn't
mean they can't be a positive part of your life.
But I think you should just explain your position to
this person, say this is my belief. You can respect
(13:43):
it or you cannot. That's up to you. And then
if they choose to cut you off or remove themselves,
then that speaks to them, not you. You've stood on
business for what's right and what's ethical and moral and
they've thrown a pissy fit and called you name since
made a bunch of unfair assumptions about you. At the
end of the day, you can't control what other people
(14:05):
think or say about you. You can just control what
you actually are and what you do, and in that case,
you will have done nothing wrong. And if she chooses to,
I think it's a she here your cut you off
or remove yourself from your life, then, like the trash
takes itself out sometimes, babe. That's all I got to say.
You can hopefully make some new friends that aren't crazy
(14:27):
obsessed with seeing victimhood everywhere and low key supportive of
political terrorism. Because she doesn't sound like a fun hang
I'll just say that, like, she doesn't exactly sound like
a fun girl to get brunch with. I don't know.
That's just my take at least you guys feel free
to chime in on this situation in the comments down below.
(14:49):
Now we're gonna hear from somebody up north in Canada
about it. Insane like genuinely unhinged experience they had in school.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
Let's listen, Hi, this is a story from my high
school in Canada. I'm seventeen and I just finished our
first readthrough of the school play. The drama teacher started
talking about Donald Trump. The topic just changed their naturally
and Charlie Kirk. Then the teacher said how she had
(15:18):
to apologize to her class because she let out a
little dance when she learned Charlie Kirk when being assassinated.
At that moment, she goes at his debt and.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (15:33):
Then they started talking about how happy they were that
Donald Trump was dying. The teacher actually said he should
be dead. And then for a solid minute there were
cheers at the death of Charlie Kirk. Thirty five kids
and a teacher cheering as I just sat there trying
(15:56):
not to break down in tears or laughter or disbelief anything,
as people who I trusted sort of laughing, like sharing
and whistling at death of political opponents. Yeah, thanks for listening,
have a great day. Hope this doesn't ruin it. Bye.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
No, I thank you for the voicemail. Much appreciated, and
I'm really sorry you had to go through that. My
first thought is that you should talk to your parents
about this, assuming you haven't already. Maybe they're more on
the conservative side, maybe they're not, but they're just sane
and they don't want this kind of thing going on
in your school, but they should.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Really.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I don't know exactly how the system of Canadian governance works,
but like here, we would have a school board, right
and a local school board that's elected, and you can
go present this and at one of their meetings and
demand some sort of accountability. You should do whatever process
you can to file some sort of complaint against this
teacher because this is really inappropriate. This is not even
(16:59):
the situation, and that's more nuanced, I think, which is
when you have a teacher, maybe on their personal Facebook page,
writing something distasteful. This is them in the classroom celebrating
terrorism that is unacceptable and then encouraging students to be
okay with murder. That is a wild and flagrant abuse
of your position, of your authority as a teacher, all
(17:22):
done on the taxpayer dime. So I really think you
should should file many complaints. You should also contact some
form of conservative media in Canada. Maybe it's the post
millennial rebel news. I don't know, I'm not super familiar
with the Canadian ecosystem and let them know about this situation,
because if you could draw some sort of national political
(17:44):
spotlight or even regional political spotlight to it. That might
help you get accountability. And it's probably possible for you
to stay anonymous while doing that as well. So I
would really encourage you, but rest assured, I would encourage
you to take some action, to try to do something
to push back on this. Hopefully your parents could help
you out, because you shouldn't have to shoulder that burden,
(18:07):
you know, as just a student. But rest assured, even
if you decide not to take action, I understand it's
not easy, it's daunting and sounds like you're in an
environment where they're the majority. But just because you're in
that kind of a bubble, I want to make sure
that you don't even for a second think that you
are the crazy one. You are not the crazy one. Okay,
(18:29):
just because a lot of people around you hold U
certa an opinion doesn't mean that that's actually a majority opinion,
or that most people think like that. Like, there's such
a thing as an echo chamber or a bubble, and
it sounds like you're in one where people are kind
of deranged. I've been in them before. But rest assured
that you are not the crazy one. They are, and
(18:50):
you have some basic common decency and sense, and they have,
let I don't know, ideology, partisanship, tribalism wrought their brains
into mud and bring them to a hateful and dark place.
But whatever you do, don't fall guilty, don't fall into
the same kind of thinking in reverse, because it's not
good for your soul really to be so dark and
(19:12):
consumed by hatred that you're worshiping death or celebrating murder.
That's a bleak place to be. So in another sense,
you should also have pity for these people, because it's
kind of sad that that's where they are in their
lives and in their thinking, that they're in such a
dark and hopeless place themselves, that they're celebrating the death
of someone else. That's pitiful. But you're not the crazy one.
(19:35):
And I really encourage you to maybe through one of
the venues that I suggested, maybe through something else your
parents might be able to help with take some sort
of action against this, because I do think we have
a duty as common sense, decent people to stand up
for basic decency and what's right in our communities when
we see something wrong. And what you've described is beyond wrong.
(19:56):
It is incomprehensibly inappropriate evil. That's my thought. You guys
feel free to weigh in on what you think in
the comments below. Next, we are going to hear from
somebody who encountered a non binary teacher, because that's a
thing that we have now and that's just wonderful. Let's listen.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
Hey, Brad, I firstly just wanted to say I absolutely
love your videos. I have been watching you relentlessly in
twenty twenty five. You helped me realize I was way
more center than I thought I was, so I'm solidly
center left leaning these days. Anyway. This is in response
to the Normal Gaze video you and Clarkson made regarding
non binary teachers. I myself am a teacher. I'm not
(20:43):
going to say what country because this accent may or
may not be fake, and I can't really give away
my opinions because when you work in the education sector,
you can't really give away like political opinions because it
can't reflect the government and the public school system. It's crazy. Anyway,
I work with non binary teacher. I work in a
high school in a low socioeconomic area, and their long
(21:06):
address is missus because they fought really hard to get
married to their wife. Their short address is sir, and
obviously they go by them pronouns. It's really hard for
them to get very religious kids in their class. I mean,
we work in a public school, so it's not about religion,
but it's hard for them to get the religious kids
(21:29):
in class because they don't believe in non binary. As
well as this teacher being very outspoken about gender and pronouns.
They even got the words male and female removed from
the staff bathrooms, but the student's bathrooms still have boys
and girls on them. Anyway, it's a lot. I thought
(21:49):
you want to hear about it?
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Bye, Yeah, I am. I don't want to say I'm
happy to hear about it because I wish it wasn't
happening so I didn't have to hear about it. But
I'm glad to know. I guess if it is happening,
i'd brought or no than not know. And I just
think it's crazy because this person doesn't even make sense
missus sir, and they them. It's like pick a struggle, babe,
(22:10):
pick a struggle. I can't keep up, and neither can
these kids. And you are using your position of authority
to promote ideological agendas and nonsense. Non Binary is an ideology.
It is a political belief system. It's not some like, oh,
just like black people existing. It's not comparable to that
gay people existing. It's not comparable to that. You are
(22:31):
teaching children a certain set of ideas about human sex
and gender ideology that is very controversial, I would argue,
is actually kind of regressive, and really, I think you
should be totally free to call yourself whatever you please,
live however you want in your own life. I don't
really think you should be allowed to push that on
(22:51):
kids in schools really at all. And maybe that makes
me some sort of bigotistism. I don't really care at
this point, because I'm just going to say what I
think and what is right, and I think that is
a load of nonsense, And yeah, I'm not sure there's
a whole lot you can do about it if you're
in a kind of depends on the political and cultural
(23:13):
atmosphere or just temperature of the discourse where you are,
because you didn't mention what country or what part of
the world. But it's not right and people should push
back on it when it happens in their communities. I
don't know, but I'm sorry that that's happening. Hopefully you
can just be a good role model for your students
and offer them a saner alternative, and maybe enough people
(23:36):
will just opt out of that person's class that the
administrators will realize, like, hey, there's a problem here. Maybe
I don't know, maybe that's the solution. You guys, let
me know what you all think in the comments. Okay,
one last note here that we're going to wrap up.
This is from somebody who identifies as trans and is
more on the conservative side, but has still had some
(23:58):
negative experiences. Let's listen.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Okay. So, hi, Brad, I wanted to put in this
insane story. So for context, I am an almost seventeen
year old trans girl, like transsexual whatever. I am extremely conservative,
and for a couple of years I went to this
like Catholic Christian private school and I was doing an
(24:27):
online like academy basically, and there were some kids who
absolutely hated my guts so much they made a group
chat called the kkk of and it was my dead name,
and basically there was about like sixty members from my
(24:50):
really big school in it, and they were just like
my biggest haters. So that just goes to show you
that no matter how conservative you are, even if your
trans or whatever, like, people will always be out to hate.
And yeah, you just have to live your life for you.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Wow, I'm really sorry you happen. Kids can be such jerks.
It's just like, it's just bullying. Bullying is never okay.
Trans not trans, conservative, liberal, It shouldn't really matter. It's wrong.
Hopefully you reported that to your school and you told
your parents about it. It's not okay for your classmates
(25:29):
to treat you like that, no matter how they feel
about gender or any of these issues or beliefs. Bullying
is bullying and it's not okay. I would maybe just say, like,
don't really view it as a reflection of you. It's
just them being dumb and immature and mushy brained, and
a lot of them will probably look back in a
few years time and be embarrassed about that. But it's
(25:50):
not about you. It's about them, I guess. And yeah,
it sounds like you're in a strong place because you
can't control what the world thinks of you. Like my
personal there are thousands of people out there who hate
my guts right because of my political views, because of
my commentary, because of my work. Who think that I'm
like a cancer on society everywhere? Like seriously, And if
(26:15):
you let what other people think defying you, that is
a recipe for life long unhappiness. You have to be
strong in your sense of self. You have to know
who you are, what you stand for, and be proud
of it and okay with it, and then let the
people think whatever they want to think, let them say
whatever they want to say, if you can be a
rock in and of yourself. And that's really hard to
(26:37):
do for anybody at seventeen years old. Okay, I certainly
didn't have it then, but that's where you can strive to.
And it sounds like you're already kind of in that place.
But yeah, it doesn't matter if you're conservative or not.
The bullying is not okay. I'm really sorry that happened
to you. It's not acceptable, and I think everybody should
just remember, no matter our disagreements, no matter what different
(26:58):
beliefs we may have about these issues, we should always
try to be kind to each other. And this world
is just a dark place these days in a lot
of ways. And I'm really sorry that happened to you.
Stay strong and keep on working unforming. Just a strong
sense of yourself and knowing who you are, let you
believe in and don't let the world get you down.
(27:19):
That's my advice at least. But thank you all so much.
That'll be it for this episode of the Bread Versus
Everyone podcast. Thank you for tuning in. Make sure subscribe
that you aren't yet hit the like button, YadA yadda. Yeah,
and with that, guys, we'll talk again. Real sick
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