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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A girl whose school punished her for liking Blair White,
a non binary coworker who won't stop harassing someone, and
in laws who tried to play emotional political blackmail. We're
going to talk about all these crazy stories and so
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much more in today's Friday episode of the Bread Versus
Everyone Podcast, my daily show where we take on the
craziest ideas from across the Internet, our media, and our politics,
or from an independent perspective. On Friday, I take your
voice notes and listen to your woke hor stories and
your personal situations and scenarios and give you my honest
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feedback and advice. Link to send those in is in
the description.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Up.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
First, we're going to listen to the crazy story of
a young woman whose school punished her for liking the
trans Republican YouTuber Blair White's content. Yes, seriously, take a.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Listen, Hi read I'm just beIN a young woman from
Sweden and my liberal high school made me take down
my paner of Blair White from Instagram because it made
other students feel unsafe for me. I am bisexual myself
and hold the modern political stance and try to keep
my opinions out of school because like eighty percent of
students are far left and queer of many kids. Unfortunately,
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someone found my fun out of player that I was
a years before starting the school and spread like wildfire,
and I lost a few friends I had and got austracized.
It came to the point where I was called to
the principal's office, where I was told I make others
uncomfortable and I was safe for my so called extremest use.
I was meant to delete my posts, but the damas
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what was already done. I was harassed in school. This
whole deal affected my already bad mental health to the
point where I failed my classes and I'm now struggling
with alcoholism. Thoughts and actions. The school didn't help in
any of this, and I was paid to glif told
that I made this bid and so lay. I'm currently
in rehab with no friends in my life, but hope
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to reread my classes in at a schooling. Thankfully, your
podcast has helped me feel less alone throughout this, So
thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Oh well, first and foremost, I am so happy that
my podcast has helped in even the tiniest way, and
I'm so sorry that you're going through all of that.
I really admire honestly your honesty and vulnerability, just like
even talking about those things, Admitting the things you're struggling
with can't be easy, and my heart goes out to you.
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I'm really, honestly, I'm proud of you for like getting help,
for working to better yourself, and please please never give up.
I think I don't know you, but I can be
one hundred percent confident the world is a better place
with you in it, and a better place with you
taking the right steps to improve your life and better
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the world around you. So huge shout out to you
for all of that. And I am I'm so sorry
to hear about this story. It is so insane to
me on so many levels. For one, I find it
hilarious and listen, I'm not familiar with Sweden's political context
or the context of your superliberal school, but it's got
to be one heck of an echo chamber, one heck
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of an ideological bubble if a bisexual person who likes
a trans YouTuber's social views are like extremist and beyond
the pale. And I have so many problems with what
the school did in your story here because one, it's
just not appropriate, like they shouldn't be policing what you
can put on your social media in your private time
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if it doesn't involve another student. If there's like if
there was cyber bullying of another student or something, that's
a slightly different story. But if you're just posting about
the creators you like, that's really nobody's business. That's really
not the school's business in any way, shape or form.
And then the idea that it makes other students unsafe
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is laughable, it's absurd, it's objectively not true. I don't
know when we lost sight of like the thing we
used to teach toddlers, at least in this country. Sticks
and stones can break my bones, but words can never
hurt me. Schools should not be sending young people this
insane safety asm messaging where, oh, if somebody likes a
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content creator whose opinions hurt your fifis, you might be
unsafe and we have to protect you from that. You
are teaching them a false premise, a false idea that
words are violence, and more than anything, that's totally unfair
to you, But it's also even failing those students because
the real world is not a safe space. In the
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real world, you have to coexist with people with strongly
different views than you, including ones that might really upset
you or violate or confront or disagree with core elements
of your identity. I'll give you an example. I am
a gay man. I live in a country where a
sizeable minority of the country holds religious views that view
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me and my life as sinful and bad. I have
to coexist with that, and I can coexist with it
because I don't rely on the approval of others to
form my own self esteem. But if I had just
been sheltered my whole life from the fact that anybody
has these horrible opinions and or told they make me unsafe,
I'd probably be a nervous wreck. I'd probably struggle to cope.
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And people are failing. I know they think they're helping,
but they are failing students when they do this. And besides,
the funniest thing about this is that Blair is I mean,
she's edgy sometimes, and she has controversial opinions that I
don't always agree with, but like, she's totally a mainstream
political commentator, and the idea that she's somehow beyond the
bail is kind of laughable in and of itself, But
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I wish I could say I was that surprised, But
I hear from people like this all the time in
these kinds of situations, not just in other countries, but
here in the US too, although here in America you
would probably have more legal recourse in terms of free
speech and potential lawsuits. I really can't attest to any
of that in Sweden, but my heart goes out to
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the description. Up next, we've got to check in with
the loving and tolerant crowd again because another non binary
bully has entered the chat. Let's hear from a friend
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who send in this voice note.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I work at a barber shop and we have a
theay them who has gone out of her way to
ridicule me and another female barber about not using the
day them pronouns. However, there's two male barbers who always
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call her a her or a she, and she has
never once ever gone off on them to.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Correct her pronouns. Oh you ridicule them for not using
the correct pronouns correct, and it's honestly ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
It creates a hostage work in a hostile work environment.
And you know all about equality, right, but she doesn't
keep that same energy for the males, just just the females.
Thank you, have a great day, Brad.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
The tea here is just piping hot, of course, And
I can't even get into my whole actual opinion about
non binary because every time I do, YouTube demonetizes me
for hate speech. But y'all know how I feel about
this by now, so seriously they do. But this is ridiculous.
The cherry on top of this one is the double
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the sexist doubles standard of the non binary who thinks
gender isn't real but seems to make some very real
distinctions between the genders here. And look, you should just
call this person out. You should be like, listen, you
have a total double standard here. You never complain about
anybody else, so clearly it's not that deep. You don't
get to tell me what I can and can't say.
This is my freedom of speech. I would say to
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this person, if you were really confident in your own
sense of self and your own identity. You wouldn't need
my validation, you wouldn't need me to go along with it.
You're free to call yourself whatever you want. I'm free
to say what I like as well. That's how this goes.
And if you don't like it, tough, that's how the
cookie crumbles, cupcake, That's what I would say to her.
And then if she continues to harass you, file a
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legitimate complaint honestly and start documenting this in writing. And
at some point, potentially, if if your employer were to
like fire you from it, you might have some form
of legal recourse and you could talk to an employment attorney.
Obviously don't know much about that, but regardless, this should
not be happening to you. These people need to learn
that tolerance is a two way street. And as much
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as they should be free to call themselves what they like, dress,
how they please, rename themselves ware, whatever hair do they like,
they can't force everyone else in the world to affirm
their beliefs and their religion, frankly, because some of the
stuff is like a religious belief and ironically, they would
be the first ones who would be outraged if you
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started wearing a cross to work and telling them that
if they want to talk to you, every conversation they
must begin with a prayer. Really, and it's not that different. Obviously,
you can't do that and you shouldn't do that to them,
and they can't do that to you. And if they
can't accept that, and if you have a boss who
doesn't back you up, hopefully your boss would back you up.
First of all, hopefully your boss has some common sense.
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But if not, maybe you should work somewhere else. I mean,
because you shouldn't have to live like that. You shouldn't
have to tolerate that in your workplace. And I'm sorry
that you do. But hopefully you can make a difference
and take a stand tier because shouldn't be like this.
And and we've got this entitlement epidemic in society, and
we've got to start pushing back on these people, not literally,
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of course, but like verbally and with our attitudes and
with our stances, because they've just gotten away with bullying
people for too long and enough is enough in my view.
Up next another day, another dystopian story from the United Kingdom.
Let's listen to one young man who called in to
tell me that the school banned him from reading his
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Bible because it made other students uncomfortable.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Let's listen, Hi, Brad. I'm from the UK and my
name is Joe. This happened a year or two ago
when I was in sixth form, which is essentially the
equivalent at the end of high school here. I used
to so I'm a Christian, and I used to wear
a crucifix, and I would read my Bible in the
morning during our free time. And they pulled me into
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the office and they told me that my reading of
the Bible and my visibly wearing a crucifix could pose
some and I quote, emotional distress to students of other
or no faith. Unfortunately, I didn't push back on this
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because I was a bit of a dormat at the time.
I did refuse to take my crucifix off, but I
relented and I said I would stop bringing my Bible in,
which now I think back on it is kind of
insane given that this was a This was a majority
Christian school in the UK, which is majority Christian, and
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I do just think that I want to get your
thoughts on this. Is this as insane as I think
it was, because it wasn't like they were banning all
religious artifacts, like there were students with like hit j
abs and even burkers.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Not my job dropping at the last part. You're telling
me that a Bible makes people unsafe, but not Islamic GARB.
To be clear, I do think people should be allowed
to do both. But if one of those is like
more likely to legitimately make LGBTQ students feel unsafe or something,
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it isn't the Bible. Okay, if we're just being so
for real, not shading all Muslims. I know there's a
diversity of beliefs, but I'm just saying in general, one
of these religions is more hostile than the other, not
in all cases, not all people, but y'all know what
I'm saying. So that's incredibly ironic and hypocritical to me.
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But also the answer to your question is, yes, this
is exactly as it is, insane as you think it is.
In fact, it's probably worse. It seems worse to us
than it even does to you, because it's hard to
understand how just crazy something is when you're in the
middle of it. It almost seems normalized to some extent,
and unfortunately you're in the context of the United Kingdom
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where people are going to jail over tweets now, and
they're investigating people every single day overpost on social media.
So in many ways, I do think the United Kingdom
has fallen when it comes to freedom of speech, freedom
of religion. They are imprisoning people for silently praying.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
It is and.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I'm not exaggerating, I'm not being hydrabolic. It is kind
of dystopian, it's kind of Orwellian, and to me, it's
such an important reminder of why the First Amendment is
a non negotiable. We've got to stand up and stick
up for it no matter who's trying to chip away
at it. And we have to be pretty hardcore absolutists
on it because in the United States, if this situation happened,
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you would actually have a legal recourse. You could sue
your school and they would be violating the law by
doing this to you. In the United Kingdom, I have
no idea they might actually be allowed to do it,
but it doesn't make it right. I mean freedom. I'm
not a particularly religious person, but freedom of religion is
a human right, and in the United States it's a
constitutional right. But they are violating your human rights by
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stopping you from practicing your life religion in ways that
hurt no one else and affect no one else, Like
you wearing a cross or you reading a book doesn't
hurt anyone, It doesn't infringe on anyone else's rights. It's
just you expressing your own faith in public, out loud
or even in your head in the case of reading
a book that's alloud. That's your right, and by stopping
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you from doing that, they're violating your rights, your human
rights especially, and again they're sending this bogus message that oh,
ideas or words or beliefs make people unsafe or uncomfortable.
You do not have a right to comfort, folks. Life
is not comfortable. So stop teaching young people high schoolers
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that they have the right to feel comfortable at all times. No,
teach them that sometimes in the real world, you have
to coexist with people who have beliefs that might offend you,
who believe or have values that you strongly disagree with,
and as long as they're not directly infringing your rights
are harming you, you have to cope. Part of being
an adult is coping. And I can mostly speak to
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the us, but I imagine something pretty similar is happening overseas.
Across the pond. People don't know how to cope anymore.
They just constantly want to play the victim and melt
down and act like they're entitled to some kind of
safe space. You're entitled to nothing except not having your
rights violated or not being harmed by someone else. You
are not entitled to not be in the same space
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as somebody reading a book that might hurt your feelings.
Then don't read it, then look somewhere else. It's not
that hard, it's not that deep. I'm sorry you had
to deal with this, but also don't beat yourself up
too much for the fact that you didn't take a
bigger stand. You were a teenager, okay, and maybe you
could have, maybe you should have. But like, it's normal
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as a sixteen, seventeen year old whatever to not want
to rock the boat, to not want to be the
controversial kid, to succumb to social pressure. It doesn't make
you week, it doesn't make you a bad guy. But
hopefully in your adult life, if you encounter a situation
like this, you will stand up for yourself and your
beliefs more forcefully. What do you guys, think let me
know in the comments and remember to hit the like button.
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with your woe horr stories for me to potentially listen
to on an upcoming show. Up next, we've got another
story about weaponized bogus claims of racism. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 7 (16:29):
Hey, Brad, So, I used to manage the sandwich shop
up in First Hill, Seattle, and I had a woman
come in one time, ordered about ten minutes before we closed,
and came ten minutes after we closed. I had already
locked the door, I had already closed everything down. It
was a slow afternoon, and now I was getting ready
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to leave. But I'm like, okay, you know she had
already paid online she ordered her sandwich, so I'll let
her in, give her a sandwich whatever. She comes in,
decides it's not fresh enough and tells me that I'm
going to remake it for or she's not gonna leave. Oh,
I explained, I wasn't gonna do that, but I'd be
happy to refund it. Nope, You're gonna remake my sandwich
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and refuse to leave. Till I had to call the
police and have them finally arrest her because she refused
to leave, even when she when the police got there,
the whole time screaming I was racist because she was
black and I was white and this was all about racism. Meanwhile,
no store in their right mind is going to do that.
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Turn the ovens back on, open everything back up because
somebody wants something remade after they arrived late. This is
very typical of this entitlement that is just growing and
growing in certain communities where if you don't get your way,
it's because of racism, and immediately that's what everyone goes to. Anyway,
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your thoughts.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah, I hear stories like this all the time, and
shame because you know, actual racism is evil, right, and
I'm sure it still does happen to some extent in
this country where people are treated wrongly or unfairly because
of their skin color, their race, their ethnicity, what have you.
And that's really wrong. We should never be treating people
differently because of things they can't control or change about themselves.
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It's not kind, it's not fair, and in many cases
it is also illegal. But the weaponization of it is
kind of out of control. To me, I really do
believe that that people have realized that maybe in twenty twenty,
twenty twenty one, they could just invoke racism and then
always get their way. But thankfully people seem to be
like getting fed up with it. Because I come back
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to this theme a lot, but I really do believe
that we've had a bit of a boy who cried
Wolf problem in society where they overuse these terms racism, sexism, transphobia, homophobia,
blah blah blah blah and just threw them around like
candy and Halloween about anything they didn't like or any
time people wanted to get their way. And it wasn't
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just actual men members of these groups doing it. Was
also there like woke white allies as well, and those
words started to lose their power. So now I do
actually think we've seen a resurgence in some genuine bigotry,
which I don't support and I'm really dismayed to see.
But it's like, what did you expect when people started
abusing the system in such a widespread manner. I think
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you did absolutely nothing wrong based on your telling of
this story. I mean, it was nice of you to
even serve her if she got there ten minutes after
you closed and the door was locked and you were gone.
She wouldn't really be entitled to anything other than maybe
a refund, but you offered her that, so I really
she has no complaints. She has no right to make
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you fire back up the ovens and reopen the store
after it's closed. The entitlement is out of control. And
also good for you for calling the police, because some
people don't want to call the police on a black
person because they feel like, especially in these these liberal bubbles,
like I think you said Seattle, they've been told that's problematic,
and of like, of course it is if you're doing
it unfairly. But if there's actually a crime happening or
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a reason to you should call the police, whether it's
a white person, a black person, or a person of
any background. That's why the police exists and what they're
there for. And you don't have the right to throw
a fit in a store and refuse to leave after
they're closed. That's called trespassing and you should catch a charge.
The one piece of advice I would offer that I
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offered a business owners and anybody who works in this
kind of environment is to have some sort of camera
and audio set up so that you have a record
of this kind of thing. You have proof of what happened,
so that if she were to make accusations against you
publicly or go to the media and complain about you
and accuse the store of racism or anything like that,
you would have hard receipts and proof that there was
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no racism, that the racism is not in the room
with us, because otherwise it becomes a bit of a
he said, she said, and that leaves ambiguity for people
to not know and to be worried that maybe you
actually did do something wrong and when you didn't. Having
that evidence is a huge help. But I'm sorry you've
had that experience. I would encourage you and everyone else
to never hold it against an entire group of people
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the bad behavior of certain individuals, because it's no one's
fault with that own individuals. But you still shouldn't have
to deal with that kind of thing. And by all accounts,
it sounds like you did exactly what I would have done.
Up next, we are going to hear from somebody who's
in laws tried to emotionally blackmail him into voting for
Kamala and I can relate to this one on a
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personal level, but not about my in laws. But I'll
get into that. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 8 (21:33):
Hey, Brett, I hope you're doing well. My name's Tim,
but I promise I won't call you evil because you
believe in free trade. I have a story for you today.
My in laws are your standard vote blue no matter who,
and it really showed in the twenty twenty four election
with fervent support of Kamala, which brings us to my story.
The week after Biden dropped out of the race and
Kamala was crowned the candidate, I was dropping off my
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two daughters at my in law's house. While walking through
the house, my father and law says to me, I've
got to be honest with you. If you're not voting
for Kamala, I'm never talking to you again. Now, my
wife and I have been together for ten years. I'm
used to some unhinged comments, like my mother in law
saying that Trump is going to put homosexualism internment camps.
But I wasn't going to take this though. I shrugged
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my shoulders and said, well, I'm not voting for Kamala,
so you do what you need to do. Finished shopping
off my kids and left with I have a good one,
which was met by silence. Later that day at work,
I get a fairly similar text from both him and
my mother in law, not apologizing, but with some diatribe
about how democracy is at stake. I chuckled and responded
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to both that it's ironic they're claiming democracy is at
stake when the Democrats and started a candidate after actively
quelling primary elections during the year, and you were both
trying to emotionally manipulate me into voting for your candidate.
Everything ended up blowing up and was fine for the
rest of the year. They kind of accepted that, but
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it was a funny story, figured that your audience might wow.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
So yeah, I mean, it's kind of a funny story,
but it's also a horrifying one, Like where do these
people get off The entitlement is out of control. You
do not have the right to control your family members
and what they can think and believe and who they
can support politically. That's not how this works. And you
would think that they would be a little bit more
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humble because presumably having a relationship to their grandchildren is
very important to them if they're like most people and
actively mistreating their son in law like this is a
good way to have that relationship curtailed or limited. So,
I mean, it would be totally You would be totally
within your rights to draw some kind of a boundary
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with them and say that listen, if you can't treat
my family respectfully, you will lose access to it. And
hopefully your partner, your wife would be on board with that,
and you guys could be in unison. They don't have
the right to do this, the same way you don't
have the right to tell them that they have to
support Trump. Yeah, they don't have the right to do
that to you. And it is so funny the gays
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in camps thing. I remember that from the first term.
They said Pence would do that and the memes were hilarious.
It never happened, obviously. Look, I've been critical of a
lot of parts of the Trump administration, but the derangement
is absolutely there among some people. And even then, you know, like,
let them have their de Lulu beliefs if they want.
But again, you can't control others. And this one rings
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rings true to me because I had an experience like
this where my grandmother on my father's side, May she
rest in peace, had breast cancer in the build up
to well she had it for years, but she had
it and then she eventually passed away from it, which
is very sad. But she had it in the build
up to the twenty twenty election, and I had not
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a close relationship with her, but we did talk and
she said something to the effect of me. I don't
remember the exact details, but like my wish, my last
wish to you is that to ask you to vote
for Biden or something, because she just couldn't live with
the idea of Trump winning again. And I remember being
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so pissed off by that on so many levels because
it's like, you are emotionally manipulating me with your cancer
diagnosis to try to control who I vote for. And
I did what I always do in twenty twenty, I
voted for the Libertarian candidate. If I even voted at all,
I don't know. I may have skipped that year, but
I didn't vote for Trump. But I also wasn't voting
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for Biden, and I was definitely not after she tried
to do that to control me. If anything, that was
never going to have the intended effect, It was only
going to do the opposite. But people need to be
put in their place when they try these kinds of things.
It is not okay to control and manipulate your family
members in these kinds of unhealthy and toxic ways. And
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you need to stand out for yourself if they tried
again and set boundaries because we can't tolerate this kind
of behavior. It's gotten out of control and people need
to get checked on it when they try it. Okay,
Up next, we're going to hear a voice note from
a nurse who has encountered the same kind of woke
nonsense in her professional capacity.
Speaker 9 (26:15):
So I have a funny, woke story for you. So
I went back to college for the first time in
six years to become a CNA Certified Nursing Assistant. And
towards the end of the class, when I was prepping
for my final exam, I watched this teacher who live
streams and helps you prep for the final exam, and
she teaches a real class but also live streams.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
So she was.
Speaker 9 (26:38):
Taking role call and after roll call, this person raised
their hand and said, is it stated in the care
plan the person's pronounce Meanwhile, for a CNA. You're mostly
taking care of older people in a nursing home. So
I don't think that's really a problem if it's a
she or a because they're probably not for being honest.
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But I just thought it was kind of silly, and
the teacher danced around the question because of course you
didn't want to upset this person. But I just think
that's so silly to be focused on. And the landscape
is a hell of a lot different from when I left,
because these were not questions that people would ask, and
so they would be prepping for their final exam, not
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worried about what pronounces to call the patient. Because I
just find that silly. But yeah, kind of wild.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Yeah, you and me, both, sister, find that kind of silly.
I'm actually concerned obviously. I think people who are liberal
or conservative or progressive or libertarian or whatever could all
be good doctors, good nurses, good medical professionals. It's about
your like competence and professionalism and your ability to keep
your politics out of it. The same way that if
you're a Republican doctor and you have somebody in there,
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you need to treat them and set your values aside.
Woke people need to do that too, but they really
seem to struggle with it sometimes, And I do worry
about their eyes of like woke pseudoscience in medicine because
the idea that A, yeah, I mean, you have to
balance the fact that if you have a patient, for example,
who identifies as non binary, it's not your place as
a doctor to set them straight about that. It's like
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you obviously just have to treat their medical condition. But
I do worry about these activist types infiltrating medicine. They've
taken over and hijacked a lot of once prestigious and
serious organizations. There's actually been some pretty extensive reporting about
this by my friend Katie Hertzog. I think she did
a story on it for the Free Press that people
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can look up if they're interested. But some of this
ideology is creeping into medicine, and that's just really concerning
to me, especially anytime there's matters of life and death.
Just keep the woke shit out. I feel like that's
not too much to ask. Keep the dei stuff out, meritocracy,
focus on the fact, check your ideology at the door.
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That really shouldn't be too much to ask, I don't think.
But in twenty twenty five. Maybe it is. What do
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