August 11, 2025 • 31 mins
South Park just spoofed the MAGA influencer Charlie Kirk, and he responded in a way you honestly have to respect. I break it down in this episode of the Brad vs Everyone podcast. Plus, South Park targets DHS Secretary Kristi Noem, and a woke podcast host goes viral for an unhinged anti-white rant.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You just think it's hilarious on the joke, Guys, who's
gonna be the one to tell Charlie Kirk that were
laughing at him, not with him.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
South Park just roasted the conservative star influencer Charlie Kirk,
and his response is kind of brilliant. We're gonna break
it all down and so much more in today's episode
of the Brad Versus Everyone podcast, our daily show where
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we take on the craziest ideas from across our media,
our politics, and the Internet, all from an independent perspective.
Up first, guys, we're gonna talk about South Park. Because
I am a longtime south Park fan. I've been very
interested by their recent dipping of their toe back into politics.
We talked a couple of weeks ago on the show
about their Trump episode, which I was a little bit
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mixed on, didn't find it super funny. But the latest
episode where they take on Charlie Kirk and kind of
the debate me bro style of conservative influencer plus hilariously
roast Department of Homeland Security Secretary Christy Nome, I thought
was much better and I really thought was very well
(01:15):
done and kind of a compliment actually to the influence
of some of these figures as well. First we're going
to talk though about Charlie Kirk, and I want to
talk about him in particular because they did this whole
episode and he was probably the main focus of it.
Though there was that significant storyline with Ice in with
Christy Noam as well, which we'll come to. But with
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Charlie Kirk, they really captured his essence very well in
kind of the debate style where he takes on college
kids and these like well what is a woman? You
haven't given a definition that's circular? And his hair cut
and so much more. Without further ado, guys, I'll just
roll you a clip from this because they poked fun
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that Charlie Kirk as the master debater and had you know,
everyone's favorite but also the most objectively unhinged and evil
character on South Park. Cartman take up the role of
Charlie Kirk. Take a listen to this, Eric, what are
you doing?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I'm sorry, mom, he told me to go to sleep,
but I started master debating again. This is really getting
to be a problem. Eric, Mom, you don't understand. I'm
getting really good at this. I have my arguments down
rock solid. These young college girls are totally unprepared, so
I can just destroy them and also edit out all
the ones that actually argue back. Well, it just feels
so good. I understand it feels good, but that doesn't
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mean you do it all the time. I'm Sally Mammy.
Put the computer away and leave those poor college girls alone. Okay,
I won't master debate anymore to need. No, you can
call it reproductive rights, but be honest, if the baby
could speak, it would fight for its right to live.
And Eric Caran, I'm Sally Man.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
So look, I'm obviously only able to show you, but
if you watch the full episode, and I watched it
with my partner and my sister the other night, we
genuinely found it very funny. They really did capture his essence,
both for good and for bad, the essence of Charlie Kirk,
this extremely prominent conservative influencer who, whether you love or
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hate him, has undoubtedly had a very big impact on
swinging young people and college students towards the Republican Party
and towards supporting Donald Trump. In one sense, it was
complimentary because the fact that they did this episode about him,
and the fact that they spoofed this genre of content
or political activism. I guess you could call it is
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a massive, massive compliment to his relevancy and his success.
And I think he knows that because frankly, if he
wasn't making a big impact, they wouldn't have ever talked
about him in the first place. And then even some
of the exchanges where they show him debating a like
liberal college student or whatever to come off as if they,
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I mean they acknowledge the strength of some of the
points he has or the inability to refute those points.
That said, there's obviously a critical element here, and they
do go after kind of the self pleasuring you might
call it aspect to some of this debate me bro stuff,
where it does become kind of obsessive, it is very
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kind of egotistical, and also it's fundamentally often not a
fair fight. So, for example, you have somebody like Charlie Kirk,
who I think is in his mid to late thirties now,
and he is a professional political activist and media commentator,
not unlike myself. And I say that not as shade,
it's just the truth. And he's going in debating like
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random twenty year olds in between their classes who don't
know anything, who are not professional communicators and who haven't
spent decades thinking and talking about politics. So it's fundamentally
kind of a It's not dishonest, but it is a
little bit of a low browse style of content. You're
definitely not taking on the best or strongest version of
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your opponents. Also, you have the platform, you have the audience,
and they don't, so like they say, you can massage
these clips in the post production process or leave things
on the cutting room floor where actually you didn't know
what you were talking about, or they made a point
against you, and then there's this kind of unfair nature
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to the distribution of the content as well, not just
the fight itself. So I think they make some very
legitimate critiques of his approach to politics, while also frankly
commending him by their mere mention and in part by
their depiction for the relevancy and the impact of his approach,
and Charlie seemed to take this as a massive compliment,
which in many ways I do think it is. Take
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a listen to how he responded. He did a whole
breakdown of the episode on his podcast, and he frank
seems to get a real laugh out of a lot
of it and think that it was well done. Take
a listen, you stupid is here Kennyth ever see first all,
(06:17):
I just think it's hilarious.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
And secondly, the whole thing is like, wait, so a
campus thing I've been doing for thirteen years to debate
random college kids has now been so important that it
gets prominent prime time placement on Comedy Central. I think
the whole thing is just awesome.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Now we're gonna look at how leftists on the Internet
are responding to Charlie's response. But first, please do take
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or any questions that you guys have for me. Send
those in at the link in the description. So Charlie
really seemed to try to not get triggered, not get upset,
but actually take it on as a compliment. The fact
this South Park parodied him and mocked him, and I've
had many criticisms of him over the years. I do
view him as kind of a hyperpartisan idelogue. I do
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think he dodges debates with people who are his equals.
But I respect the way he handled this. He didn't
get triggered, he didn't clutch his pearls, he leaned in,
he laughed about it, even made the cartman as Charlie
Kirk thing his profile picture. And then he capitalized on it,
you know, doing episodes about his podcast, doing media hits
about it. It's honestly how I would respond, I think,
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and I can totally respect it. But leftists online, at
least on TikTok, because he has a big club of
haters on the internet, absolutely seemed to be very upset
that he wasn't, I don't know, hurt that he wasn't,
like upset that he he is the laughing He's not
supposed to laugh. He's supposed to realize they're mocking him. Yeah,
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that he knows, and he's laughing at it because that's
what south Park does and he's just being a good
sport about it. But they really didn't like the way
he responded to it. To listen to this.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Hey, everybody, So the south Park episode is going super viral.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Right now watching you set your brain to hyper spin
mega drive to try and cope with this fucking absolute
annihilation of an episode of you and your entire friend
stick is on brand every video. You're just struggling. No,
I mean on the joke, guys, anyway, I guess just
continue to cope. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
This is tough to watch, Charlie.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
I love that Charlie Kirk is trying so hard to
be in on the joke in this South Park episode.
I don't think you understand what this is. This is
not a friendly roast between friends. They are making fun
of you because you are a hack, morally contemptuous loser.
It's very much giving like this meme.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
No, Charlie Kirk is not at all upset about South
Park episode, not even a little bit. He thought it
was so funny, so funny that he's selling this super
cool Master Debater shirt on his website because the show's
so cool and he's cool and it's so funny. He
thinks south Park is so funny, and he's so funny too,
and he's so glad that he was in on the
joke the whole time.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
So who's gonna be the one to tell Charlie Kirk
that were laughing at him, not with him, because for
the last day he's making it seem like he's in
on the joke.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Charlie, you are the joke.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I'm totally open to criticisms of Charlie Kirk. I've criticized
him multiple times on this podcast myself, But to me,
this all just totally missed the mark. I mean, because
it feels like they're making an unfair demand of Charlie
that puts him in a lose lose situation. If he
had been upset by South Park's rendition of him and
their mockery of him, then they would say, Haha, Charlie's
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a triggered snowflake, just like the libs he likes to mock,
and I think, frankly, they'd be correct and we will
come to somebody who was being a triggered snowflake about
their South Park depiction Christian. But anyway, so he didn't
do that. I'm glad he didn't do that because I
think that would be deeply hypocritical, and he chose to
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just take the joke laugh along with it, and now
they're saying, you don't get it. They were mocking you.
They're not laughing with you, they're laughing at you. Yes,
he understands that they're mocking him, but what else is
he supposed to do other than laugh about it or
get triggered. There's really no other option ignore it. Why
would you ignore a massive thing happening about you. So
I find this criticism to be totally unserious, and they're
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also ignoring the fact that it is a compliment to
be name checked on South Park, or at least it
is an acknowledgment of your relevance at the bare minimum.
So the idea that he would be laughing at it
but also be kind of flattered that they're going after him,
to me seems totally reasonable. But these people, I think,
would have just bashed however he responded, because again, it
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really seems like a no win situation. Overall, I thought
the episode was funny. I thought it was well done,
and I also think Charlie, my many criticisms of him aside,
handled it well and handled it about as well as
you really could in that situation. But what do you
guys think? Have you seen the clips? Have you seen
the actual episode. What's your take on all of this?
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Do let me know in the comments and hit that
leg button while you are at it. But now, guys,
we got to talk about somebody else that got mocked
by South Park, which is Homeland Security Secretary Christy Nome, who,
as progressives call her Ice Barbie. She dresses up in
outfits for TV hits, she does ride alongs with ice raids,
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and she kind of has a unique style. She's very
glammed up. She's clearly had a ton of plastic surgery
and work done, and South Park went after her pretty
brutally in their latest episode. Let's roll a clip of that.
Speaker 8 (11:49):
All right, recruits, this is it.
Speaker 9 (11:51):
We're heading to a location that might.
Speaker 10 (11:53):
Be built with illegals.
Speaker 8 (11:54):
Let's take these battle breaks down, please, hood how good?
Speaker 11 (12:21):
We're just here for questioning.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
We operate in nothing battle Holly.
Speaker 10 (12:25):
Sh Look, I'm really sorry about this.
Speaker 12 (12:35):
It's just I've got a monthly nud. You know, I
gotta make my nud. Did a good job in their soldier. Okay,
thank you, captain.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I know it's tough.
Speaker 12 (12:48):
Doing what's hard, but we could use more men than
I do.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
What your boat talks.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Miss nom oh, just text me up, text me up.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Another day doing what's tough. So I thought this spoof
of Christinome and of Ice more broadly, I did find
it funny. Particularly the funny thing that you have to
understand a little bit of the lore to get the
joke is when Christinom, throughout the episode, every scene she's
in practically murders a random dog. It's like, oh my god,
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paulsard are going to just start shooting and kills a
random dog. It is just there hitting you over the
head with this reference. Because in her book that she wrote,
like I think a biography or a political book, this
actually ended up coming back to haunt her. When she
was being considered as a possible selection for Trump's vice president,
she bragged about killing a dog she couldn't train in
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really gruesome fashion, and about putting down a goat. And
she thought this like showed her willingness to get tough
jobs done, But in reality it just kind of made
her look a little crazy and humane because she just
killed the dog instead of potentially, you know, giving it
away or sending it somewhere where they could train it,
or sending it somewhere for dogs that you know, aren't
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fitting in with their other dogs. Like just there were
a lot of steps before taking it out back and
going old Yeller or whatever. I just it seemed like
a creepy thing to do, and they really hit it
over and over again in a way that was absolutely
funny if you understood the reference. The next thing is
they clearly ridicule her looks. Her face practically melts off
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over and over again in the show, and then the
camera crews and the makeup artists and the plastic surgery
people all come in and fix her up and then
put her back up again. And I mean, I thought
it was a little funny. I don't think it's like
the biggest deal in the world. Yes, she has had
a lot of work done. She's very fake looking. I
don't really care personally, but it was kind of funny.
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And they went after her looks, which okay, they do
that to a lot of people, like they just went
after Trump's penis size and other things. So I just
was in particular scandalized or shocked by that part. I
didn't find it that funny, but I mean, she is
she does very much lean into the performative aspect of it,
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like she wears these costumes for interviews that are clearly
like is she'll wear an ice You uniform to a
television interview where you know that she just put it
on to do the interview. She's not actually doing any
business that would require her to wear a vest or
anything like that. It's there is a performative kind of
dress up aspect to her as Homeland Security Secretary that
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I think they very astutely tapped into. Of course, the
mocking people's looks I don't find particularly interesting or insightful,
but it's just part of what happens in these kinds
of comedies now. So the thing that I wanted to
comment on that pissed me off was how she responded.
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Take a listen to this clip of Christinome on Glenn
Beck's podcast and radio show responding to this and whining
and playing the victim. Then, oh, south Park made fun
of my looks. That's all the libs know how to do.
Take a listen to this clip and try not to
roll your eyes so hard that you get a headache,
which was my initial response.
Speaker 11 (16:12):
South Park did an episode and Cartman played me the
whole time. Oh really, it took yeah, oh yeah, It
took me about a year before even I didn't even
know it happened until like maybe a year later. I
was so busy and I ended up years later watching
it with my son and we both laughed over it.
But welcome to the club.
Speaker 13 (16:34):
Well, I guess, so I didn't get to see it.
I was I was going over budget numbers and stuff.
But you know, I think it's Yeah, it never ends.
But it's so lazy to just constantly makes fun of
women for how they look. Only the roles in the
extremists do that. If they wanted to criticize my job,
go ahead and do that, but clearly they can't. They
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just pick something petty like that.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
So there is so much here to unpack. But first
of all, I have to clock the lie at the top.
I haven't seen it. She's definitely at least seen the
clips of her. I was too busy looking at budget numbers.
Sure Dan, sure you were. I'm sure that your age
showed you at the ninety second clip on Twitter. All right,
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and you have time for every television interview and press
conference in the world, and are very concerned with what
the media and press think about you and your agency,
which totally fair. Don't gaslight us and tell us you
haven't seen it, which you haven't seen it, but you
also know the contents of it and are offended by them.
And here's the thing, why, the reason I have to
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laugh if she had just said, you know, well, once
she says, well, they just went after my looks, that's
all they had, It's not true. They went after many
substantive things of her as well, like her killing dogs,
like her rushing and bribing people to join ICE with
huge sign on bonuses then throwing them out in the
field with very little training, like them, targeting illegal or
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undocumented people who are not dangerous or not a threat,
like her racially profiling people. All sorts of substantive criticisms
were in the episode, So she's not being honest by
saying all they did. She could refute those I'm not
saying they're all true or valid or justified. She could
refute those allegations or that mockery. But it is not
true to suggest all they have to go after is
my looks. And I actually agree that I don't find
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the looks mockery very interesting. I try to avoid commenting
on people's appearance once in a while, I can't help myself,
but I really do try to avoid it because it's
not substantive, but it doesn't really further debates in meaningful ways.
But for her to say only libs and the extremists
mock women's looks when her boss's Donald Trump, is diabolical.
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Maybe I mean, I guess she's fine with it, and
many Americans have made their peace with it. But he
calls women pigs, ugly, fat, slobs, everything under the sun
when he doesn't like them or agree with them. This
is documented the years, time after time after time. So
for you to sit there and claim that only libs
and extremists, by the way South Park is really neither
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of those things. But for you to say only they
mock the appearances of women while actually actively serving in
the administration of Donald John Trump is insane. The audacity,
the lack of self awareness for somebody who looks in
the mirror all the time, you're clearly not looking clearly enough,
is all I'll say. And I have to contrast the
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way that Christinom responded to this, the pearl clutching, the
old the left dark which is coming after my looks,
I'm a woman, blah, blah blah. I have to contrast
that with the way Charlie Kirk responded to it, where
he laughed at it. He joined in on the self
deprecation train. He made fun of himself about his like
funny habits and drinking water and then picking up the
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water but putting it down like he literally. I watched
the whole episode he did, breaking through the cliffs and
talking about it with his other right wing buddies, and
again I have my issues with him, but he handled
it like a class. He wasn't a snowflake, he wasn't triggered,
he didn't play the victim, he didn't go full hypocrite
mode or do any of the things that Christy Nome did.
So I think we just saw like the two genders
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of conservative leaders and personalities, one of which is actually
I think walking what they talk on, at least as
far as you know, snowflakes and taking a joke and
comedy is legal again, and the other one that is
behaving honestly how you'd expect a Democrat to behave, invoking
their identity and playing the victim. Well, I hate that.
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I hate it when woke people do it, and I
actually hate it even more when Republicans do it because
they're supposed to know better. They're supposed to be the
party that's against identity politics, but a lot of them
do lean into it the second that it's politically advantageous,
or they have no real rebuttal or response to something.
What do you guys think? Let me know in the comments,
Make sure you're subscribed if you aren't yet, and hit
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that like button while you're at it. Okay, up next,
we've got to check in with some of the most
toxic woke podcasters on the planet, and these are the
two hosts of the I've Had It podcast, which started
out as a funny and wholesome and savage and not
particularly political podcast that I actually used to enjoy once
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upon a time, but then quickly turned into kind of
low brow MSNBC rage bait political commentary and softball interviews
with Democratic politicians like Kamala Harris and Barack Obama. Now
what's remarkable about these women is that they don't seem
to realize how perfectly they typify everything that people find
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repulsive about modern progressivism and its rhetoric and its ideology,
The acerbicness of it, the disdain for people who disagree
with them, the reverse racism and pretty open bigotry. So
we're going to listen to a clip that's going really
viral of Jennifer Welch, the main one of the two
main hosts here that really it has at all take
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listen to this.
Speaker 9 (22:01):
I've had it with white people that triple trumped, that
have the nerve and the audacity to walk into a
Mexican restaurant, a Chinese restaurant, an Indian restaurant. I really
genuinely believe that if you vote, if you triple trumped,
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then you are all about preserving the lack of culture
in white America that has led us to where people
go and Bible thump with their ar fifteens, Like that's
the only thing that I see when you get all
white people together in the United States. There's no culture
at all. So they have to go borrow culture from people.
(22:43):
Even the word woke they've borrowed from black culture. Think
you should be able to enjoy anything but cracker barrel.
Get your fat asses over to cracker Barrel. Quit watching
NBA basketball, Quit watching sports that are dominated by African Americans,
Quit going to Mexican restaurants, you want white culture, you
(23:05):
go live in it, but do not participate in any
of the shit that makes America cool.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Wow. Wow. So it's hilarious to me on so many levels.
But first and foremost, how quick the body positivity goes
out the window, and how suddenly it's fine to fat
shame and body shame people as soon as it's evil,
dastardly white Trump supporters, and then it's fine, And you know,
I I'm sorry, but again, I don't like to comment
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in people's looks. But when you've had that much work done,
you should not be commenting on other people's appearances, like
you just shouldn't. Not everyone has the luxury of reality
TV money or whatever you do to go and go
into the knife dozens of times and then still kind
of look like an alien, like I don't why? Why is?
(23:54):
Why are you browbeating your fellow citizens like this and
race shaming them? The cracker barrel thing. First of all,
weird strays being thrown at cracker barrel, which is perfectly fine,
But then this idea that white people only support Trump
and the Trump movement is all just preserving white culture.
I think there's a fringe element that genuinely does consider
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that kind of thing, and I condemn that. But a
lot of black people and Hispanic people did vote for Trump.
A lot of white people voted for Trump for reasons
that have nothing to do with race or white culture,
which I don't even think is a thing. I don't
even think white people is a real or meaningful category
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with much or any commonality between it, because it encapsulates
people of all sorts of different ethnicities and descents with
their own culture and food and traditions and heritage. So,
by the way, which does exist, I mean, so you're
saying Italian people don't have culture, You're saying, like, what
all sorts of different Spanish people, all sorts of different
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white people have no culture of their own, right? I
don't think that's true. And it's also just a bizarre
way to speak about people, this toxic identitarian worldview where
you are shaming people. And what exactly about voting for
Trump is inconsistent. And I didn't vote for Trump. I
voted independent, and I'm pretty critical of him. But what
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exactly about being a Trump voter means you can't or
shouldn't go to a Mexican restaurant? Is she just conflating
Mexicans with illegal immigrants? Is that it because those aren't
the same thing, Jennifer, And you're kind of actually the
one sounding a bit racist with that suggestion to me,
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same with like, what does any of this have to
do with Indian people or Indian restaurants. I mean, yeah,
there's some debates about like visas and whether to increase
or decrease H one b's and different things, but like
what any of that has to do with whether you
can attend or go patronize an Indian restaurant is not
clear to me whatsoever. Also, why do you want these
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people to lose business? That's your way of being a
helpful ally to these minority groups, taking customers away from
them because you're shaming them for who they voted for.
And there's just zero accountability or reflection on the fact
that actually, toxic, identitarian, woke white people like yourself are
the ones that drove away so many normal moderate Americans
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from the Democratic Party. The way that you speak about
groups of people, the way you collect device, the way
you assign blame and guilt on the base of demographic
the way you are hateful and judgmental to people who
think differently than you. That is what has repulsed so
many people, including plenty of non white people, away from
the Democratic Party. And these two perfectly embody it. Let's
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watch the rest of this clip that's blowing up.
Speaker 9 (26:51):
And what makes America cool is multi culturalism. And if
you want to triple Trump and you want to browbeat DEI,
you want to browbeat gay people, and you want to
browbeat black people as you've been doing for four hundred years,
and you want to browbeat this generation of immigrants that
come over here and open up businesses, earnestly pay their taxes.
(27:12):
You want to demonize them and call them rapists and
felons and all this shit, when the felon is the
teeny weeny mushroom cock piece of shit knkeles Mctaco tits
at the top of the ticket. I have had it
from top to ball white people that triple Trump should
be banned, boycotted from enjoying the best thing that America
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has to offer, which is multi culturalism. Get your fat
asses out of the Mexican restaurant, Get your fat asses
over to Cracker Barrel, because nobody wants to see your
smug ass teeny weeny, pink arm, big gut around. Nobody
wants to see that shit, no one.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
There is so much here, like, so much to unpack.
And again she just comes off as so unhinged, so
unstable of hate in her heart. Really sad. But also
go back to what you people have been doing for
four hundred years, are shaming black people and gay people
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and all this stuff. Ma'am. I've been doing nothing for
four hundred years. The average Trump supporter has been doing
nothing for four hundred years because we haven't been alive
that long. You're suggesting that we bear blame for what
other people who lived hundreds of years before us did.
And do you know that the US is only what,
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two hundred and fifty years old? It's not four hundred
years old like what? And a lot of this is hallucinated.
First off, opposing DEI does not mean that you oppose diversity.
It's the equity and the reverse discrimination involved in a
lot of that and the identity obsession that people object to,
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not the fact that people of all walks of life
and background can exist side by side. I think most
critics of DEEI, myself included, view that as valuable, and yes,
as part of what it makes America great. I don't
agree that it's the only thing that does. I think
our institutions and our constitution and our values also make
us great, not just our multiculturalism, though I am a
(29:17):
proponent of that, though I think there's a nuanced conversation
to be had about some of that. Anyway, though, what
has Trump done against gay people other than openly support
gay marriage and appoint the highest ranking gay official in
the cabinet ever with the Treasury Secretary of Scott Bessett,
Like I feel, they're just going woke mad libs. They're
(29:40):
just rattling off the list of things that liberals are
supposed to care about and assuming Trump bad on all
of them. I've been very critical of some of his
emigration policies and other things. But to just say that, oh,
he's everything under the sun. How is Trump against black people? Again?
In terms of his what he's doing is resident his
electoral campaign anything, I don't really see much to go
(30:05):
off of there. You're just making these assumptions, and you're
trying to force people into these identity boxes based on
things you hallucinated, like the red wine and mixing it
with the ambient it hit too hard, Jennifer, you need
to keep it separate. Your doctor told you to stop mixing.
I just listen. I find and whenever I see a
(30:27):
clip from this podcast going viral, I find it sad
because they are very prominent influencers. They are prominent progressive
personalities now, and yet their approach is exactly what has
led the Democratic Party and progressive media and commentators astray
in the first place, and just made their brand so
incredibly toxic to normal people. And in a time when
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I really do think the Republican Party is becoming very
unserious and very extreme and very much captured in a
cult of personality around Trump. I wish we had a
normal Democratic Party. I wish we had a sane, stable alternative.
But as long as people like this are the messengers,
we do not. What do you guys think? Let me
(31:08):
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Yet and hit that like button while you're at it,
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and we'll talk again real so,
You just think it's hilarious on the joke, Guys, who's
gonna be the one to tell Charlie Kirk that were
laughing at him, not with him.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
South Park just roasted the conservative star influencer Charlie Kirk,
and his response is kind of brilliant. We're gonna break
it all down and so much more in today's episode
of the Brad Versus Everyone podcast, our daily show where
(00:32):
we take on the craziest ideas from across our media,
our politics, and the Internet, all from an independent perspective.
Up first, guys, we're gonna talk about South Park. Because
I am a longtime south Park fan. I've been very
interested by their recent dipping of their toe back into politics.
We talked a couple of weeks ago on the show
about their Trump episode, which I was a little bit
(00:55):
mixed on, didn't find it super funny. But the latest
episode where they take on Charlie Kirk and kind of
the debate me bro style of conservative influencer plus hilariously
roast Department of Homeland Security Secretary Christy Nome, I thought
was much better and I really thought was very well
(01:15):
done and kind of a compliment actually to the influence
of some of these figures as well. First we're going
to talk though about Charlie Kirk, and I want to
talk about him in particular because they did this whole
episode and he was probably the main focus of it.
Though there was that significant storyline with Ice in with
Christy Noam as well, which we'll come to. But with
(01:37):
Charlie Kirk, they really captured his essence very well in
kind of the debate style where he takes on college
kids and these like well what is a woman? You
haven't given a definition that's circular? And his hair cut
and so much more. Without further ado, guys, I'll just
roll you a clip from this because they poked fun
(02:00):
that Charlie Kirk as the master debater and had you know,
everyone's favorite but also the most objectively unhinged and evil
character on South Park. Cartman take up the role of
Charlie Kirk. Take a listen to this, Eric, what are
you doing?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I'm sorry, mom, he told me to go to sleep,
but I started master debating again. This is really getting
to be a problem. Eric, Mom, you don't understand. I'm
getting really good at this. I have my arguments down
rock solid. These young college girls are totally unprepared, so
I can just destroy them and also edit out all
the ones that actually argue back. Well, it just feels
so good. I understand it feels good, but that doesn't
(02:39):
mean you do it all the time. I'm Sally Mammy.
Put the computer away and leave those poor college girls alone. Okay,
I won't master debate anymore to need. No, you can
call it reproductive rights, but be honest, if the baby
could speak, it would fight for its right to live.
And Eric Caran, I'm Sally Man.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
So look, I'm obviously only able to show you, but
if you watch the full episode, and I watched it
with my partner and my sister the other night, we
genuinely found it very funny. They really did capture his essence,
both for good and for bad, the essence of Charlie Kirk,
this extremely prominent conservative influencer who, whether you love or
(03:18):
hate him, has undoubtedly had a very big impact on
swinging young people and college students towards the Republican Party
and towards supporting Donald Trump. In one sense, it was
complimentary because the fact that they did this episode about him,
and the fact that they spoofed this genre of content
or political activism. I guess you could call it is
(03:39):
a massive, massive compliment to his relevancy and his success.
And I think he knows that because frankly, if he
wasn't making a big impact, they wouldn't have ever talked
about him in the first place. And then even some
of the exchanges where they show him debating a like
liberal college student or whatever to come off as if they,
(04:01):
I mean they acknowledge the strength of some of the
points he has or the inability to refute those points.
That said, there's obviously a critical element here, and they
do go after kind of the self pleasuring you might
call it aspect to some of this debate me bro stuff,
where it does become kind of obsessive, it is very
(04:23):
kind of egotistical, and also it's fundamentally often not a
fair fight. So, for example, you have somebody like Charlie Kirk,
who I think is in his mid to late thirties now,
and he is a professional political activist and media commentator,
not unlike myself. And I say that not as shade,
it's just the truth. And he's going in debating like
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random twenty year olds in between their classes who don't
know anything, who are not professional communicators and who haven't
spent decades thinking and talking about politics. So it's fundamentally
kind of a It's not dishonest, but it is a
little bit of a low browse style of content. You're
definitely not taking on the best or strongest version of
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your opponents. Also, you have the platform, you have the audience,
and they don't, so like they say, you can massage
these clips in the post production process or leave things
on the cutting room floor where actually you didn't know
what you were talking about, or they made a point
against you, and then there's this kind of unfair nature
(05:31):
to the distribution of the content as well, not just
the fight itself. So I think they make some very
legitimate critiques of his approach to politics, while also frankly
commending him by their mere mention and in part by
their depiction for the relevancy and the impact of his approach,
and Charlie seemed to take this as a massive compliment,
which in many ways I do think it is. Take
(05:54):
a listen to how he responded. He did a whole
breakdown of the episode on his podcast, and he frank
seems to get a real laugh out of a lot
of it and think that it was well done. Take
a listen, you stupid is here Kennyth ever see first all,
(06:17):
I just think it's hilarious.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
And secondly, the whole thing is like, wait, so a
campus thing I've been doing for thirteen years to debate
random college kids has now been so important that it
gets prominent prime time placement on Comedy Central. I think
the whole thing is just awesome.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Now we're gonna look at how leftists on the Internet
are responding to Charlie's response. But first, please do take
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or any questions that you guys have for me. Send
those in at the link in the description. So Charlie
really seemed to try to not get triggered, not get upset,
but actually take it on as a compliment. The fact
this South Park parodied him and mocked him, and I've
had many criticisms of him over the years. I do
view him as kind of a hyperpartisan idelogue. I do
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think he dodges debates with people who are his equals.
But I respect the way he handled this. He didn't
get triggered, he didn't clutch his pearls, he leaned in,
he laughed about it, even made the cartman as Charlie
Kirk thing his profile picture. And then he capitalized on it,
you know, doing episodes about his podcast, doing media hits
about it. It's honestly how I would respond, I think,
(07:43):
and I can totally respect it. But leftists online, at
least on TikTok, because he has a big club of
haters on the internet, absolutely seemed to be very upset
that he wasn't, I don't know, hurt that he wasn't,
like upset that he he is the laughing He's not
supposed to laugh. He's supposed to realize they're mocking him. Yeah,
(08:03):
that he knows, and he's laughing at it because that's
what south Park does and he's just being a good
sport about it. But they really didn't like the way
he responded to it. To listen to this.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Hey, everybody, So the south Park episode is going super viral.
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Right now watching you set your brain to hyper spin
mega drive to try and cope with this fucking absolute
annihilation of an episode of you and your entire friend
stick is on brand every video. You're just struggling. No,
I mean on the joke, guys, anyway, I guess just
continue to cope. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
This is tough to watch, Charlie.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
I love that Charlie Kirk is trying so hard to
be in on the joke in this South Park episode.
I don't think you understand what this is. This is
not a friendly roast between friends. They are making fun
of you because you are a hack, morally contemptuous loser.
It's very much giving like this meme.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
No, Charlie Kirk is not at all upset about South
Park episode, not even a little bit. He thought it
was so funny, so funny that he's selling this super
cool Master Debater shirt on his website because the show's
so cool and he's cool and it's so funny. He
thinks south Park is so funny, and he's so funny too,
and he's so glad that he was in on the
joke the whole time.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
So who's gonna be the one to tell Charlie Kirk
that were laughing at him, not with him, because for
the last day he's making it seem like he's in
on the joke.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Charlie, you are the joke.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I'm totally open to criticisms of Charlie Kirk. I've criticized
him multiple times on this podcast myself, But to me,
this all just totally missed the mark. I mean, because
it feels like they're making an unfair demand of Charlie
that puts him in a lose lose situation. If he
had been upset by South Park's rendition of him and
their mockery of him, then they would say, Haha, Charlie's
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a triggered snowflake, just like the libs he likes to mock,
and I think, frankly, they'd be correct and we will
come to somebody who was being a triggered snowflake about
their South Park depiction Christian. But anyway, so he didn't
do that. I'm glad he didn't do that because I
think that would be deeply hypocritical, and he chose to
(10:09):
just take the joke laugh along with it, and now
they're saying, you don't get it. They were mocking you.
They're not laughing with you, they're laughing at you. Yes,
he understands that they're mocking him, but what else is
he supposed to do other than laugh about it or
get triggered. There's really no other option ignore it. Why
would you ignore a massive thing happening about you. So
I find this criticism to be totally unserious, and they're
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also ignoring the fact that it is a compliment to
be name checked on South Park, or at least it
is an acknowledgment of your relevance at the bare minimum.
So the idea that he would be laughing at it
but also be kind of flattered that they're going after him,
to me seems totally reasonable. But these people, I think,
would have just bashed however he responded, because again, it
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really seems like a no win situation. Overall, I thought
the episode was funny. I thought it was well done,
and I also think Charlie, my many criticisms of him aside,
handled it well and handled it about as well as
you really could in that situation. But what do you
guys think? Have you seen the clips? Have you seen
the actual episode. What's your take on all of this?
(11:12):
Do let me know in the comments and hit that
leg button while you are at it. But now, guys,
we got to talk about somebody else that got mocked
by South Park, which is Homeland Security Secretary Christy Nome, who,
as progressives call her Ice Barbie. She dresses up in
outfits for TV hits, she does ride alongs with ice raids,
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and she kind of has a unique style. She's very
glammed up. She's clearly had a ton of plastic surgery
and work done, and South Park went after her pretty
brutally in their latest episode. Let's roll a clip of that.
Speaker 8 (11:49):
All right, recruits, this is it.
Speaker 9 (11:51):
We're heading to a location that might.
Speaker 10 (11:53):
Be built with illegals.
Speaker 8 (11:54):
Let's take these battle breaks down, please, hood how good?
Speaker 11 (12:21):
We're just here for questioning.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
We operate in nothing battle Holly.
Speaker 10 (12:25):
Sh Look, I'm really sorry about this.
Speaker 12 (12:35):
It's just I've got a monthly nud. You know, I
gotta make my nud. Did a good job in their soldier. Okay,
thank you, captain.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I know it's tough.
Speaker 12 (12:48):
Doing what's hard, but we could use more men than
I do.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
What your boat talks.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Miss nom oh, just text me up, text me up.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Another day doing what's tough. So I thought this spoof
of Christinome and of Ice more broadly, I did find
it funny. Particularly the funny thing that you have to
understand a little bit of the lore to get the
joke is when Christinom, throughout the episode, every scene she's
in practically murders a random dog. It's like, oh my god,
(13:23):
paulsard are going to just start shooting and kills a
random dog. It is just there hitting you over the
head with this reference. Because in her book that she wrote,
like I think a biography or a political book, this
actually ended up coming back to haunt her. When she
was being considered as a possible selection for Trump's vice president,
she bragged about killing a dog she couldn't train in
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really gruesome fashion, and about putting down a goat. And
she thought this like showed her willingness to get tough
jobs done, But in reality it just kind of made
her look a little crazy and humane because she just
killed the dog instead of potentially, you know, giving it
away or sending it somewhere where they could train it,
or sending it somewhere for dogs that you know, aren't
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fitting in with their other dogs. Like just there were
a lot of steps before taking it out back and
going old Yeller or whatever. I just it seemed like
a creepy thing to do, and they really hit it
over and over again in a way that was absolutely
funny if you understood the reference. The next thing is
they clearly ridicule her looks. Her face practically melts off
(14:27):
over and over again in the show, and then the
camera crews and the makeup artists and the plastic surgery
people all come in and fix her up and then
put her back up again. And I mean, I thought
it was a little funny. I don't think it's like
the biggest deal in the world. Yes, she has had
a lot of work done. She's very fake looking. I
don't really care personally, but it was kind of funny.
(14:48):
And they went after her looks, which okay, they do
that to a lot of people, like they just went
after Trump's penis size and other things. So I just
was in particular scandalized or shocked by that part. I
didn't find it that funny, but I mean, she is
she does very much lean into the performative aspect of it,
(15:08):
like she wears these costumes for interviews that are clearly
like is she'll wear an ice You uniform to a
television interview where you know that she just put it
on to do the interview. She's not actually doing any
business that would require her to wear a vest or
anything like that. It's there is a performative kind of
dress up aspect to her as Homeland Security Secretary that
(15:30):
I think they very astutely tapped into. Of course, the
mocking people's looks I don't find particularly interesting or insightful,
but it's just part of what happens in these kinds
of comedies now. So the thing that I wanted to
comment on that pissed me off was how she responded.
(15:50):
Take a listen to this clip of Christinome on Glenn
Beck's podcast and radio show responding to this and whining
and playing the victim. Then, oh, south Park made fun
of my looks. That's all the libs know how to do.
Take a listen to this clip and try not to
roll your eyes so hard that you get a headache,
which was my initial response.
Speaker 11 (16:12):
South Park did an episode and Cartman played me the
whole time. Oh really, it took yeah, oh yeah, It
took me about a year before even I didn't even
know it happened until like maybe a year later. I
was so busy and I ended up years later watching
it with my son and we both laughed over it.
But welcome to the club.
Speaker 13 (16:34):
Well, I guess, so I didn't get to see it.
I was I was going over budget numbers and stuff.
But you know, I think it's Yeah, it never ends.
But it's so lazy to just constantly makes fun of
women for how they look. Only the roles in the
extremists do that. If they wanted to criticize my job,
go ahead and do that, but clearly they can't. They
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just pick something petty like that.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
So there is so much here to unpack. But first
of all, I have to clock the lie at the top.
I haven't seen it. She's definitely at least seen the
clips of her. I was too busy looking at budget numbers.
Sure Dan, sure you were. I'm sure that your age
showed you at the ninety second clip on Twitter. All right,
(17:19):
and you have time for every television interview and press
conference in the world, and are very concerned with what
the media and press think about you and your agency,
which totally fair. Don't gaslight us and tell us you
haven't seen it, which you haven't seen it, but you
also know the contents of it and are offended by them.
And here's the thing, why, the reason I have to
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laugh if she had just said, you know, well, once
she says, well, they just went after my looks, that's
all they had, It's not true. They went after many
substantive things of her as well, like her killing dogs,
like her rushing and bribing people to join ICE with
huge sign on bonuses then throwing them out in the
field with very little training, like them, targeting illegal or
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undocumented people who are not dangerous or not a threat,
like her racially profiling people. All sorts of substantive criticisms
were in the episode, So she's not being honest by
saying all they did. She could refute those I'm not
saying they're all true or valid or justified. She could
refute those allegations or that mockery. But it is not
true to suggest all they have to go after is
my looks. And I actually agree that I don't find
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the looks mockery very interesting. I try to avoid commenting
on people's appearance once in a while, I can't help myself,
but I really do try to avoid it because it's
not substantive, but it doesn't really further debates in meaningful ways.
But for her to say only libs and the extremists
mock women's looks when her boss's Donald Trump, is diabolical.
(18:47):
Maybe I mean, I guess she's fine with it, and
many Americans have made their peace with it. But he
calls women pigs, ugly, fat, slobs, everything under the sun
when he doesn't like them or agree with them. This
is documented the years, time after time after time. So
for you to sit there and claim that only libs
and extremists, by the way South Park is really neither
(19:08):
of those things. But for you to say only they
mock the appearances of women while actually actively serving in
the administration of Donald John Trump is insane. The audacity,
the lack of self awareness for somebody who looks in
the mirror all the time, you're clearly not looking clearly enough,
is all I'll say. And I have to contrast the
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way that Christinom responded to this, the pearl clutching, the
old the left dark which is coming after my looks,
I'm a woman, blah, blah blah. I have to contrast
that with the way Charlie Kirk responded to it, where
he laughed at it. He joined in on the self
deprecation train. He made fun of himself about his like
funny habits and drinking water and then picking up the
(19:49):
water but putting it down like he literally. I watched
the whole episode he did, breaking through the cliffs and
talking about it with his other right wing buddies, and
again I have my issues with him, but he handled
it like a class. He wasn't a snowflake, he wasn't triggered,
he didn't play the victim, he didn't go full hypocrite
mode or do any of the things that Christy Nome did.
So I think we just saw like the two genders
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of conservative leaders and personalities, one of which is actually
I think walking what they talk on, at least as
far as you know, snowflakes and taking a joke and
comedy is legal again, and the other one that is
behaving honestly how you'd expect a Democrat to behave, invoking
their identity and playing the victim. Well, I hate that.
(20:32):
I hate it when woke people do it, and I
actually hate it even more when Republicans do it because
they're supposed to know better. They're supposed to be the
party that's against identity politics, but a lot of them
do lean into it the second that it's politically advantageous,
or they have no real rebuttal or response to something.
What do you guys think? Let me know in the comments,
Make sure you're subscribed if you aren't yet, and hit
(20:53):
that like button while you're at it. Okay, up next,
we've got to check in with some of the most
toxic woke podcasters on the planet, and these are the
two hosts of the I've Had It podcast, which started
out as a funny and wholesome and savage and not
particularly political podcast that I actually used to enjoy once
(21:15):
upon a time, but then quickly turned into kind of
low brow MSNBC rage bait political commentary and softball interviews
with Democratic politicians like Kamala Harris and Barack Obama. Now
what's remarkable about these women is that they don't seem
to realize how perfectly they typify everything that people find
(21:38):
repulsive about modern progressivism and its rhetoric and its ideology,
The acerbicness of it, the disdain for people who disagree
with them, the reverse racism and pretty open bigotry. So
we're going to listen to a clip that's going really
viral of Jennifer Welch, the main one of the two
main hosts here that really it has at all take
(22:00):
listen to this.
Speaker 9 (22:01):
I've had it with white people that triple trumped, that
have the nerve and the audacity to walk into a
Mexican restaurant, a Chinese restaurant, an Indian restaurant. I really
genuinely believe that if you vote, if you triple trumped,
(22:22):
then you are all about preserving the lack of culture
in white America that has led us to where people
go and Bible thump with their ar fifteens, Like that's
the only thing that I see when you get all
white people together in the United States. There's no culture
at all. So they have to go borrow culture from people.
(22:43):
Even the word woke they've borrowed from black culture. Think
you should be able to enjoy anything but cracker barrel.
Get your fat asses over to cracker Barrel. Quit watching
NBA basketball, Quit watching sports that are dominated by African Americans,
Quit going to Mexican restaurants, you want white culture, you
(23:05):
go live in it, but do not participate in any
of the shit that makes America cool.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Wow. Wow. So it's hilarious to me on so many levels.
But first and foremost, how quick the body positivity goes
out the window, and how suddenly it's fine to fat
shame and body shame people as soon as it's evil,
dastardly white Trump supporters, and then it's fine, And you know,
I I'm sorry, but again, I don't like to comment
(23:34):
in people's looks. But when you've had that much work done,
you should not be commenting on other people's appearances, like
you just shouldn't. Not everyone has the luxury of reality
TV money or whatever you do to go and go
into the knife dozens of times and then still kind
of look like an alien, like I don't why? Why is?
(23:54):
Why are you browbeating your fellow citizens like this and
race shaming them? The cracker barrel thing. First of all,
weird strays being thrown at cracker barrel, which is perfectly fine,
But then this idea that white people only support Trump
and the Trump movement is all just preserving white culture.
I think there's a fringe element that genuinely does consider
(24:15):
that kind of thing, and I condemn that. But a
lot of black people and Hispanic people did vote for Trump.
A lot of white people voted for Trump for reasons
that have nothing to do with race or white culture,
which I don't even think is a thing. I don't
even think white people is a real or meaningful category
(24:36):
with much or any commonality between it, because it encapsulates
people of all sorts of different ethnicities and descents with
their own culture and food and traditions and heritage. So,
by the way, which does exist, I mean, so you're
saying Italian people don't have culture, You're saying, like, what
all sorts of different Spanish people, all sorts of different
(24:58):
white people have no culture of their own, right? I
don't think that's true. And it's also just a bizarre
way to speak about people, this toxic identitarian worldview where
you are shaming people. And what exactly about voting for
Trump is inconsistent. And I didn't vote for Trump. I
voted independent, and I'm pretty critical of him. But what
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exactly about being a Trump voter means you can't or
shouldn't go to a Mexican restaurant? Is she just conflating
Mexicans with illegal immigrants? Is that it because those aren't
the same thing, Jennifer, And you're kind of actually the
one sounding a bit racist with that suggestion to me,
(25:41):
same with like, what does any of this have to
do with Indian people or Indian restaurants. I mean, yeah,
there's some debates about like visas and whether to increase
or decrease H one b's and different things, but like
what any of that has to do with whether you
can attend or go patronize an Indian restaurant is not
clear to me whatsoever. Also, why do you want these
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people to lose business? That's your way of being a
helpful ally to these minority groups, taking customers away from
them because you're shaming them for who they voted for.
And there's just zero accountability or reflection on the fact
that actually, toxic, identitarian, woke white people like yourself are
the ones that drove away so many normal moderate Americans
(26:26):
from the Democratic Party. The way that you speak about
groups of people, the way you collect device, the way
you assign blame and guilt on the base of demographic
the way you are hateful and judgmental to people who
think differently than you. That is what has repulsed so
many people, including plenty of non white people, away from
the Democratic Party. And these two perfectly embody it. Let's
(26:48):
watch the rest of this clip that's blowing up.
Speaker 9 (26:51):
And what makes America cool is multi culturalism. And if
you want to triple Trump and you want to browbeat DEI,
you want to browbeat gay people, and you want to
browbeat black people as you've been doing for four hundred years,
and you want to browbeat this generation of immigrants that
come over here and open up businesses, earnestly pay their taxes.
(27:12):
You want to demonize them and call them rapists and
felons and all this shit, when the felon is the
teeny weeny mushroom cock piece of shit knkeles Mctaco tits
at the top of the ticket. I have had it
from top to ball white people that triple Trump should
be banned, boycotted from enjoying the best thing that America
(27:32):
has to offer, which is multi culturalism. Get your fat
asses out of the Mexican restaurant, Get your fat asses
over to Cracker Barrel, because nobody wants to see your
smug ass teeny weeny, pink arm, big gut around. Nobody
wants to see that shit, no one.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
There is so much here, like, so much to unpack.
And again she just comes off as so unhinged, so
unstable of hate in her heart. Really sad. But also
go back to what you people have been doing for
four hundred years, are shaming black people and gay people
(28:10):
and all this stuff. Ma'am. I've been doing nothing for
four hundred years. The average Trump supporter has been doing
nothing for four hundred years because we haven't been alive
that long. You're suggesting that we bear blame for what
other people who lived hundreds of years before us did.
And do you know that the US is only what,
(28:33):
two hundred and fifty years old? It's not four hundred
years old like what? And a lot of this is hallucinated.
First off, opposing DEI does not mean that you oppose diversity.
It's the equity and the reverse discrimination involved in a
lot of that and the identity obsession that people object to,
(28:55):
not the fact that people of all walks of life
and background can exist side by side. I think most
critics of DEEI, myself included, view that as valuable, and yes,
as part of what it makes America great. I don't
agree that it's the only thing that does. I think
our institutions and our constitution and our values also make
us great, not just our multiculturalism, though I am a
(29:17):
proponent of that, though I think there's a nuanced conversation
to be had about some of that. Anyway, though, what
has Trump done against gay people other than openly support
gay marriage and appoint the highest ranking gay official in
the cabinet ever with the Treasury Secretary of Scott Bessett,
Like I feel, they're just going woke mad libs. They're
(29:40):
just rattling off the list of things that liberals are
supposed to care about and assuming Trump bad on all
of them. I've been very critical of some of his
emigration policies and other things. But to just say that, oh,
he's everything under the sun. How is Trump against black people? Again?
In terms of his what he's doing is resident his
electoral campaign anything, I don't really see much to go
(30:05):
off of there. You're just making these assumptions, and you're
trying to force people into these identity boxes based on
things you hallucinated, like the red wine and mixing it
with the ambient it hit too hard, Jennifer, you need
to keep it separate. Your doctor told you to stop mixing.
I just listen. I find and whenever I see a
(30:27):
clip from this podcast going viral, I find it sad
because they are very prominent influencers. They are prominent progressive
personalities now, and yet their approach is exactly what has
led the Democratic Party and progressive media and commentators astray
in the first place, and just made their brand so
incredibly toxic to normal people. And in a time when
(30:47):
I really do think the Republican Party is becoming very
unserious and very extreme and very much captured in a
cult of personality around Trump. I wish we had a
normal Democratic Party. I wish we had a sane, stable alternative.
But as long as people like this are the messengers,
we do not. What do you guys think? Let me
(31:08):
know in the comments, Make sure subscribe to We Aren't
Yet and hit that like button while you're at it,
and that'll be it for today's episode of the Barad
Versus Everyone podcast. Guys, thanks so much for tuning in.
Do send in your voicemails for our Voicemail Friday episodes
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