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December 17, 2025 67 mins

What metrics actually matter in marketing—and which ones are misleading in an AI-driven world?

 

In this episode, we dive deep into what actually drives business growth—and what metrics, mindsets, and marketing strategies founders need to let go of as the landscape rapidly evolves.

 

From measuring marketing performance correctly, to resisting FOMO-driven decisions, to leveraging AI and content as force multipliers, this conversation is a practical, experience-backed guide for entrepreneurs at every stage—especially those who want sustainable growth without burning cash, people, or systems.

 

This is not about hacks. It's about clarity, discipline, and long-term advantage.



What did they talk about?

 

  • Marketing must be measured by business outcomes, not vanity metrics

  • Small businesses fail when they spread themselves too thin

  • Slow down to speed up

  • AI is not killing marketing—it's reshaping it

 

If you're an entrepreneur, founder, or business leader trying to grow smarter—not just louder—this episode is for you.



Know more about Lee Pepper. Check his website: https://www.neveroutmatched.com/

 

Connect with Lee and follow: IG Instagram launches a new logo - a 'simpler camera' - BBC News @theleepepper

 

Are you measuring what's easy… or what actually grows your business?

 

If this episode challenged the way you think about marketing, leadership, and growth, do us a favor—subscribe, follow, and share this with one founder who's trying to do too much with too little.

 

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