Built to Win

Built to Win

Are you ready to grow and level up your business game? Tune in to Built to Win, a fresh perspective from four put-to-the-test leaders who share their hard-won wisdom. Each episode of this podcast features practical, actionable advice from respected business founders and leaders Jeff Olson, Deborah K. Heisz, Amber Olson Rourke, and Dave Fleming. Learn how they’ve faced the same challenges that you face every day — and turned them into business success, despite the road blocks that can seem insurmountable. You’ll discover real-life insights to help you develop a success mindset and find true joy in the journey, no matter what life throws your way.

Episodes

September 2, 2025 40 mins

After spending 18 years in a nursing career, Mandy Drozda didn’t expect to become a thriving entrepreneur. But in this episode, the National Marketing Director explains how discovering Neora turned her from a skeptic into a true believer — in both herself and in direct sales.  She explains the important role personal development has played in her success and how she now applies The Slight Edge in every area of her life. 

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From running brick-and-mortar businesses to thriving in direct sales, Vikki and John Downey’s story is about decades of entrepreneurial pivots. In the episode, the seasoned entrepreneurs and national marketing directors at Neora sit down with Dave Fleming to talk about how they moved from traditional business models to one driven by residual income, how the direct sales industry introduced them to personal growth, and what they fin...

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August 5, 2025 40 mins

Join Dave Fleming as he sits down with Neora co-founder and president Amber Olson Rourke to unpack the evolving landscape of direct selling, the entrepreneurial mindset, and what it takes to thrive in today’s competitive environment. Drawing from over two decades of experience, including more than 14 years of leadership at Neora, Amber shares personal stories, candid reflections, and strategic perspectives on building a purpose-dri...

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July 22, 2025 39 mins

Entrepreneurship is about taking risks and making commitments. In this episode, Dave Fleming talks with Platinum National Marketing Director Mary Chieppor and her daughter, Emma Chieppor, founder of Excel Dictionary, about the very different paths they took to entrepreneurship, what they’ve learned, and why learning to take risks is all part of the job. They also share the important role that direct selling has played in helping bo...

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Elaine White left the corporate world when she became a mom, and at that time, she didn’t even know the direct selling industry existed. But now, she has built a successful career and is a National Marketing Director with Neora. In this episode of Built to Win, Elaine talks with Dave Fleming about what led her to direct selling, how it has provided the perfect career as she goes through the various changes in her life, and how the ...

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June 24, 2025 39 mins

Neora Silver National Marketing Director Jill Chisholm has enjoyed a remarkable journey from struggling entrepreneur to a successful leader in direct sales. In this episode of Built to Win, Jill opens up to Dave Fleming about the setbacks that shaped her — including being turned down by 20 banks before launching her first business — and how those experiences led her to a career helping others succeed. Learn how she overcame doubt, ...

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June 10, 2025 34 mins

Aaron Dinh and Cathy Ngo had already found success when they discovered Neora in 2014, and that discovery changed everything for them. Finding the leadership, vision, and international momentum they were searching for, Aaron and Cathy partnered with Neora and reached one of the top leadership positions in just eight months. Today, as Top Global Network Marketing Leaders, Aaron and Cathy have plenty of insight into what differentiat...

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May 27, 2025 30 mins

Wendy Hatton was a successful entrepreneur with experience in franchises when she learned about Neora. Although she had never considered a career in direct selling, she found the product appealing — and then she discovered just how lucrative it could be. Today, Wendy is a Gold National Marketing Director who is not only enjoying her success, but bringing others along with her. In this episode, she talks with Neora’s Dave Fleming ab...

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May 13, 2025 36 mins

Leah MacDonald had enjoyed a successful career in the finance world before becoming a mom, and she had never considered a career in direct selling — until she discovered Neora. Now, as an Area Marketing Director in Australia, she has built a thriving business for herself as well as helping others do the same. In this episode, she talks with Neora’s Dave Fleming about what it has meant to her to be able to create her own business, t...

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Sam Wyatt didn’t initially think direct selling was a good fit for her, but when she saw her friend becoming successful with Neora, she decided to give it a try. Now, as a Platinum National Marketing Director for Neora, Sam has built a successful business that allows her to be present as a mom while reaching her professional goals. In this episode, she talks with Neora’s Dave Fleming about how she discovered this unexpected career,...

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April 15, 2025 40 mins

For almost two decades, Andrea Waltz has been teaching people in virtually every business and industry how to think and feel differently about failure, rejection, and the word “no.” “Go for No!,” the book she co-authored with Richard Fenton, has become the go-to guide for sales professionals and has remained among the top 50 Sales books for the last 13 years. In this episode, Andrea talks with Neora’s Dave Fleming about why this ph...

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April 1, 2025 43 mins

When Shalon Murphy discovered Neora, she opened the door to a career that has allowed her to achieve her biggest, boldest goals. In this episode, Shalon talks with Dave Fleming about her journey to become an International Marketing Director for Neora and how it helped her rediscover who she is, the importance of bringing fun and positivity to work, and how she overcame her mom guilt on the road to success. She also shares her best ...

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March 18, 2025 41 mins

Melissa Finch never imagined network marketing would be a good fit for her, but once she gave it a chance, it changed her life. In this episode, Dave Fleming talks with Melissa, a Silver National Marketing Director for Neora, about what led her to discover Neora, how personal development has informed her professional success — and how it has also made her a better parent. She also shares valuable advice for anyone who is considerin...

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Leslie Hocker thought direct selling would provide her with additional financial security, but since joining Neora, she has discovered it provides so much more than that. In this episode, Dave Fleming talks with Leslie about how becoming a global leader for Neora has turned her dream of making money into a way of helping others and provided her with the fulfillment that was lacking in her chosen career field. She also explains why ...

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February 18, 2025 37 mins

Aana Camp wanted to build a business that had meaning for her and for others — and that’s when she discovered Neora. In this episode, Dave Fleming talks with Aana about how building her career with Neora provided her with the fulfillment she was seeking. The international marketing director explains how personal development and The Slight Edge helped her build a growth mindset, and shares how a cup of coffee changed her life. 

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February 4, 2025 42 mins

Many factors contribute to the success journey, and in this episode, Dave Fleming talks with Damon Rourke, Neora’s national marketing director, as he reveals the practices he used to discover his path to achivement. Damon shares how simple practices like consistency and perseverance, along with a growth mindset, can have amazing results. He also discusses the significance of building relationships, being part of a community, and sh...

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Finding support from others is critical to the entrepreneurial journey, and discovering the power of community can make a tremendous difference in an individual’s success. In this episode, Neora’s Dave Fleming talks with Silver National Marketing Director Mikayla Gainey about how her life changed when she discovered the Neora community and how important it is to be able to offer that support and guidance to others. Mikayla shares h...

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January 7, 2025 41 mins

Successful entrepreneurs understand that changing your mindset can change your entire business. In this episode, Neora’s Dave Fleming talks with Platinum National Marketing Director Jennifer Givens to talk about how changing her mindset opened the door to a career she never knew was possible. Jennifer shares the critical role mindset played in building her business and talks about how teaching — and practicing — compassion helped s...

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December 10, 2024 40 mins

This is the time of year when many people are setting their goals for the new year, but they often forget a crucial element: Reflection. In this episode, Neora founder Jeff Olson and president Amber Olson Rourke discuss the critical role of reflection as you plan for the future. They explain how to use reflection to help you see what’s working well and identify what you can do differently, and they’ll explain how it can change the ...

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November 26, 2024 43 mins

Incorporating gratitude into leadership practices not only benefits individuals but also enhances organizational success. And while gratitude is something that many people embrace in their personal lives, research shows there’s a so-called “gratitude gap” when it comes to practicing gratitude at work. In this episode, Neora co-CEO Deborah Heisz leads the leadership team in a discussion about gratitude as a leadership principle. Lis...

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