December 18, 2024 • 34 mins
I’m so excited to welcome back Anthony O’Neal to the show! He is the national bestselling author of Debt-Free Degree, a personal finance expert, and host of the wildly popular podcast and YouTube show, The Table with Anthony O'Neal, which has garnered millions of downloads.
For over a decade, Anthony has been challenging cultural norms, empowering individuals to live debt-free lives, break generational wealth gaps, and build true financial independence. He’s been featured on major platforms like Good Morning America, Live with Kelly and Mark, Fox and Friends, CNN, Success Magazine, and more- he’s truly everywhere!
Join us today as we dive into the exciting details of his upcoming book, Take Your Seat at the Table: Live an Authentic Life of Abundance, Wellness, and Freedom, which is set to release in January. We talk about building a strong foundation for your life, taking control of your future, and surrounding yourself with the right people who can encourage and challenge you.
This conversation is the perfect wrap-up to 2024, and I know you’ll walk away feeling inspired and ready to take on the new year- so let’s dive in!
4:31 – Anthony 201
• Stepping out on his own + giving back
• Launching a third book
• Living in DC
6:31 – Take Your Seat At The Table
• Why Anthony chose this metaphor for his book and podcast
• The importance of building a solid foundation
• Taking control of your life and not allowing others to dictate your decisions
12:22 – The Power Of Vision
• What do you want to do and where do want to go?
• The importance of a clear vision
• Writing down your long-term goals and working backwards
19:21 – Embracing The Messy Table
• Learning from failure
• Messiness can be beautiful and meaningful
• Embracing learning opportunities
26:25 – Don’t Do It Alone
• Inviting therapists, coaches and spiritual advisors to your table
• The value of support systems
• Connecting with Anthony
FEATURED QUOTES
“So many times, we allow other people to sit at the head of our tables and tell us what to do with our life and how to do things with our life, and we never take that opportunity.”
“You have to have a vision… When you have a vision, it's even easier to invite people to your table.”
“Failure, messiness- it's not a negative. Embrace it. Learn from it, enjoy it, laugh- just make sure that you keep moving forward.”
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Episode Transcript
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(00:00):
Anthony, it's a big day because I am welcoming you back to my show.
Welcome.
It's so good to have you.
Molly, man, thank you so much for having me.
It's been a journey to get up here to my hotel room just so could talk with you.
So I'm excited to be here and thanks for having me back.
you know, that's the cool thing about technology is like you just got off a plane, which Ifeel very honored that like when I travel and I get off of a plane, I want to nap.
(00:28):
And so the fact that you are coming on a podcast makes me feel very, very grateful.
So thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule to be with us.
I first, before we get into the Anthony 201 and all of that, my guess or my guess, mylisteners know that whenever I
somebody on the podcast more than once, which is a very rare occurrence.
(00:48):
So although it's not as rare, eight and a half years in, like you start to have somerepeats, but it's a pretty rare occurrence.
And I bestow upon my two time guests, you have to use a little bit of like sanctifiedimagination to give you an imaginary like an SNL, the five timers club, you know, when
(01:09):
they host five times.
On my show, you get a imaginary velvet jacket and on the velvet jacket is a patch with myface on it.
I appreciate it.
I don't know if I wear it, but I definitely have it up in my office somewhere though.
Yes.
frame it, like put it in a frame.
Anyway, well, I've just like I said, I'm really excited to have you back on.
(01:33):
And so welcome.
So like you did on the last time, and I think I said, was before I even rebranded.
This is probably like three or four years ago.
That was the Anthony 101.
And so some stuff's happened.
So give us the Anthony 201.
So tell us kind of what life has looked like for you in the last few years and, and whereyou are right now.
(01:53):
Man, such a huge transition from the 101 version of AO to 201 version of AO.
101 version AO was working with a phenomenal brand, a phenomenal company.
so since then, the 201 version is I've stepped out on my own and I've started really.
I've always had a heart for minority people to help them build wealth, to help them getaccess to financial literacy in the less fortunate communities.
(02:23):
And so the two-in-one version of me is doing just that.
It's really going back into the inner communities, the less fortunate communities, andbringing hope, bringing God, bringing financial literacy from a spiritual perspective into
these low communities, man.
It's been such a huge, huge, huge
honor to be able to do so.
(02:45):
know, we were almost at a million subscribers on YouTube.
I'm launching my third book here in a couple of weeks.
I have a little over eight full time employees on my my staff.
We've been honored and amazing magazines and just really just taking his heart on man, youknow, and I moved to last time I talked to you, I was living in Nashville and I moved to
(03:10):
D.C.
So I'm in a DMV.
And that just really grew me it was so good.
Yes, yeah, yeah.
So I'm in the Maryland side of DMV, so I'm excited.
Nice.
Yeah.
I grew up in Northern Virginia, right outside of DC, but my whole life was going into DCand growing up in DC culture.
(03:31):
It's so funny when I moved to North Carolina, growing up in DC, one of the big things isthe go-go scene.
When I came to North Carolina, nobody knew what go-go music was.
was like, anyway, so to hear that you are living in the DMV just makes me very, veryhappy.
That's awesome.
(03:52):
So good.
Well, like you mentioned, and the reason that you're here today is because you have yourthird book coming out, which having just released my first book in the spring and the
amount of work and time and effort and just like labor that goes into that to think aboutbook number three, like gives me like hot flashes.
(04:12):
And so I'm just like really just incredibly proud of you and impressed and just amazingfeat to come out with book number three.
And it is
called Take Your Seat at the Table.
And I want to dive right into this because, you know, especially people that have followedyou and know your work and, I mean, you host a podcast called The Table.
(04:32):
And so this is a metaphor that you love to use both on your podcast and really is thetheme throughout this book of the metaphor of the table that kind of represents this well
lived life.
And so I would love for you to just kind of as the foundation for our conversation, justkind of
unpack that metaphor and share like why did you choose this as the central theme of yourbook and why is it such a big part of your podcast and all of that.
(04:59):
Yeah, you know, when I think about that question, I'm honestly sitting at a table rightnow having a conversation with you that my laptop is on.
And the tabletop is sitting on four legs.
And then on the four legs is a foundation.
Well, we couldn't have a tabletop if the foundation wasn't sturdy enough and firm enoughand flat enough, right?
(05:20):
And I think sometimes in life, what I've realized that people, we skip over building afoundation that our life can stand on.
We'll go from living paycheck to paycheck to wanting to learn how do we make a milliondollars overnight.
But we didn't really build the wisdom nor the knowledge nor the strength to sustainwhatever money we may have.
(05:42):
We'll go from being single to wanna be married, but you haven't worked on yourselfmentally, spiritually or practically to keep and sustain that marriage.
And so when we look at it,
People are losing money.
They're living paycheck to paycheck.
We have a high divorce rate.
Friendships are not sustaining simply because we really haven't taken the opportunity tobuild a solid foundation for our life.
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And that's why I wrote the book, Take Your Seat at the Table, because there's a huge partof me that I believe has to, and hear me clearly watch this, it has to start with us.
And so many times we allow other people to sit at the head of our tables and tell us whatto do with our life and how to do things with our life.
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And we never take that opportunity.
My life is not my life.
My life was given to me by my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
So he is the pilot and I'm the co-pilot.
But here on the earth in the United States of America, it's my life and I need to take thehead of that table.
And so this book is really designed to help people understand, hey, what are the eightcrucial areas that you need to take control of?
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Not your mom, not your dad, not your husband, not your wife, not your boyfriend,girlfriend, boss, culture, community.
I'm talking about what are the things that you need to take control of and you invitepeople to your table.
And just to break it down, your table is your life.
So no one should be telling you what to do with your life.
Your spouse didn't even tell you that.
(07:20):
Y'all should have an agreement of what we're going to do together.
But, know, Molly, I remember, and if I'm talking too much, let me know.
I'm a black preacher so we can talk and keep on going.
You know, I was at lunch one day and I talk about this in my book.
(07:41):
I was at lunch one day with one of my friends and she came up to me and she was like, man,my boss told me that I should.
you know, do this so I can become this, have this position by this time and in thisposition will lead me to this position and that position will lead me to the ultimate
position of, you know, VP of such and such inside a particular company.
(08:01):
That would take me about like a total of seven years.
I could be making $160,000, $200,000 a year.
Boom, boom, boom, boom.
I was like, wow.
I said, okay.
And then he said, yeah.
So that means that I can't have a baby within the next 10 years.
Mm.
I was like, how do feel about that?
(08:22):
I mean, I want the position.
I said, OK, I hear you.
But how do you feel about
Like, do you want a kid?
Yes, me and my husband were talking about it.
We would like to have a kid in the next two years, two or three years.
But your boss just told you what to do with your life.
Did he ask you, did you desire kids?
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Did he ask you what's your goals and vision for inside the company?
She was like, no.
Did he ask you, do you even desire to be in this position that he thought of?
No.
So he didn't ask you what you wanted to do with your life.
He told you what you're going to do with your life.
She was like, yeah, but it's your life.
(09:09):
It's your table.
I said, sis, here's the thing with us.
Bosses and jobs are designed to help us reach our potential.
It's designed to help us go where God wants us to go.
Your boss shouldn't tell you what you should do.
Your boss should ask you, hey, how can we partner together?
(09:31):
Yes, you're here for a job and an assignment, but are we even aligned with what you wantto do in life?
And if so, how can we work together so that way we can have a longevity within ourrelationship?
Man, make a long story short, she ended up quitting that job, Molly, because they didn'tcare.
They told her like, hey, this is what we want for you.
(09:51):
And you can't have kids if you want to get there.
So she removed that person from her table, from her life.
And she went and found another position that worked with her that she invited to take aseat at the side of her table while she reclaimed the head of her table, reclaimed the
head of her life.
And today she has two kids making $150,000 and she's not stressed because she took claimof her table.
(10:17):
Right.
Man, that's so good because I think we, was just having a conversation with a friend theother day who is a business owner and she was telling me just about how, like she has
really struggled to find, you know, cause she's a female entrepreneur, she's femalebusiness owner and she's really struggled to find this balance between, hiring people and
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finding people that want to be a part of the vision for the company.
But then also want to like take some initiative and help.
know, kind of design roles around, you know, filling holes and things like that.
And, you know, and she's talked about how just she wants to build a company that is verylike family friendly.
And she wants to, you know, empower the people on her staff to not only, you know, makedecisions and kind of take ownership of things, but then also help, you know, shape the
(11:08):
vision for their own lives and things like that.
And how she's seen this theme in, I feel like a lot of, and I don't want to make like, I'mnot great at making a generalization about
generations, but that there is kind of this theme where there's almost like this arresteddevelopment along with a lot of people kind of under the age of like 45, where there's the
(11:30):
kind of this this age like 22 to 45, where you've got this kind of couple of generations,you've got some, you know, elder millennials, into millennials into Gen Z, that
They just don't know how to like take ownership of something.
They don't know how to make a decision for themselves.
Like they don't know how to just like, you know, grab the bull by the horns or whatever.
(11:53):
But then they also they're seeing the effects of the burnout of like Gen X and the andthings like that, that just like all they did was work.
And so they're seeing the effects of that.
And so it's like this, like I said, arrested development where it's this inability to findthe balance.
And so I love the way that you talk about this, about taking the seat at your own tableand like taking ownership of making decisions in your own life.
(12:21):
But that can feel really scary and hard for people, especially if they came from a familyof origin that had a lot of brokenness or a lot of, you have like maybe one parent who was
a workaholic with another parent that was a stay at home parent, but kind of emotionallyabsent.
I mean, there's all kinds of complex things that we could talk about or a single parenthome where
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you know, mom or dad wasn't there and was working all the time or all of those things.
speak to that person who's just who maybe is really struggling and wrestling with how do Iempower?
How do I get empowered to make decisions for my own life when that seems really simple,but for somebody, especially when you bring those things like family of origin and all of
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those things into the equation, it can get really complicated really fast.
No, and it will get complicated really fast if you don't have a clear vision and directionfor where you're going.
I'll talk about this as well as it's easier for me to make decisions because my vision ismaking the decision for me.
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I have to spend time to generate the vision, to write the vision, to make it plain.
The problem that I see when people who are like, I don't want to say no, or I don't wantto say yes, or I don't know how to make this decision.
Well, it's because you haven't sat down and said, clearly, what do you want to do andwhere do you want to go?
So I specifically told myself four years ago, man, I want to help a millionAfrican-American minority people get out of debt, build wealth and start building a
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legacy.
They can pass down to their children, children.
And I want to have that rooted from a biblical biblical perspective.
So now that I have that vision,
when this opportunity comes up, does it align with the vision or does it not?
If it aligns, cool, great.
Let's move forward.
If it doesn't align, I'm not saying no.
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The vision is saying it doesn't align.
So the answer is no.
And it's easy for me to make that decision because I'm sticking to the vision that me andGod put together for my life during this season of my life.
And so that is a crucial part.
of taking ownership of your table, AKA your life.
You have to have a vision and watch this.
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When you have a vision, it's even easier to invite people to your table.
It's, it's, it's, and it's easier to tell people you got to go or you're not welcome.
Like I'm single partially because there are some things that I got to work on within myown personal life.
I'm never going to be perfect, but I'm working on those things.
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But another huge portion of that is
They weren't aligned with the vision that I had for my life.
So I couldn't invite you to take a seat at my table.
And we're not aligned in the direction of life where we want to go.
So it's easy for me to say, no, baby girl, I'm sorry.
You ain't the one.
You cool.
You just ain't mine.
You know?
(15:16):
And it's easy to tell my family when they call me and ask me for money.
It's easy for me to tell them no, because hey, if I give you that,
it's gonna derail from my vision.
I'm trying to put money up for a wedding one day.
I'm trying to put money up for this.
I got a vacation.
I'm trying to buy more rental property.
I'm sorry I can't do that because it doesn't align with my vision.
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Hey, I can't take that job.
Hey, I can't work with that person because it doesn't align with the vision.
Or I can because it does.
So if you find yourself struggling with taking ownership of your life and making thesehard decisions,
I want you to pause making decisions and I want you to write down where are you going tobe at the end of 2025?
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Where are you going to be by 2030?
Okay?
Get you a one year, five year, 10 year visioning goal.
Work your way backwards once you do that.
It is going to be so much easier for you to make decisions.
And watch this.
Hard decisions become easier decisions.
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And they say that they're easy, but they're easier to make.
it's part of life, Myla.
We're going to make some decisions that's going to hurt, that's going to make us feel alittle emotional, emotionally down.
But that's part of life.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I know that obviously just knowing and following your work for a number of years,you know, I know that a lot of this comes from your own life experience.
(16:52):
And, one of the major themes in your book is kind of learning from failures.
And, you know, I love that this is a theme that no matter what stage of life, we can allconnect with this.
And, you know, you, as a single man and me as a wife and mom of two young kids,
This is something that as I'm you know, my husband and I are raising our 11 and 8 year oldwe talk a lot about learning from failure learning from mistakes and That can be
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especially when one of our children is a little bit more What's the word?
Predisposed to want to get everything right the very first time and is a little bit of aperfectionist and a little bit of a like if I'm not
the absolute best at this, that means I'm like, if I'm not first year last, like it'slike, one of our children has adopted the Ricky Bobby, if you hate first year last
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mindset.
And, and obviously, as this is a child and a human being, more often than not, there'ssome loss.
And so that's really hard.
And so, you know, I
my husband and I try to have these conversations with our kids about like, have to learnfrom those mistakes.
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You have to learn from failure.
And that is hard to accept as an eight year old or an 11 year old.
It's hard to accept for me at 39.
I don't know how old you are, but like, you know, it's, it is hard.
And so I'd love for you to kind of share how this has manifested itself in your own life.
Like how has failure in your own life.
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shaped your approach to not just the content that you produce in your podcast, but also inyour book.
You know, I have a messy life and it's not a messy to where it is a negative.
But if you look at my desk, it's a little messy, but it's still productive.
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You know I'm saying?
Yeah.
So it's, I think when I see perfection, I don't see execution.
If I see perfection, how are you executing when everything is strategically right?
And so for me, there's going to be some failures in learning.
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There's going to be a little bit of messiness in progression.
Right?
When I'm working out, I'm sweaty and I'm musty.
Right?
So while you're sweating and you're musty, your muscles are growing.
And so there's nothing wrong.
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If you go for a jog, you should not come back smelling.
Like roses.
Okay?
And so for me, when I hear people say, man, I failed, that's good.
That means that you've learned something.
That means that a muscle have grown in your brain.
Something has grown in life that has taught you what to do and what not to do movingforward.
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And so I embrace failure.
Because if I failed at something, it doesn't make me a failure.
It makes me someone who tried to do something and learned from it.
Now I can do it better the next time.
You know how many relationships I failed at?
You know how many business opportunities and business ideas I failed at?
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It doesn't make me a failure.
I can count on a hand the last four years of running my business.
I just knew I was going to have several, several, several seven figure deals.
I said, man, yeah, this course right here is going to make me a million dollars.
And they made me $50,000.
I'm like, well, that failed.
But then I learned from it.
It went and got me a coach.
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I learned, I learned, I learned, and failed again.
But my company is still making over seven figures a year.
And so for me, what I think where we have to really understand, and you'll learn thisinside the book, take your seat at the table, is the last chapter in this called A Messy
Table.
and how to embrace a mess of table that we just had Thanksgiving last month.
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We just had it.
I don't know about you, Molly, but I come from a black country, country, country family.
And when we went to the table, it looked good to start.
Hmm.
But once we all went through and we put our forks and our spoons inside of them, we lookedback at the table, it was messy.
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But that food was still good.
And we went back to the messy table to get some more of that good food.
And so failure, messiness, it's not a negative.
Embrace it, learn from it, enjoy it, laugh.
Just make sure that you keep moving forward.
And that's how I embrace failure.
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Here's the truth, and I'll be quiet after this one.
I'm going to fail again at something.
I'm going to fail because here's what I've learned.
Failure means I'm stepping outside of my comfort zone and allowing God to really beeverything.
If you're maximizing and killing every single thing in your life, that means you're inyour comfort zone and you're not really stretching yourself to go any further.
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I'm back in school to get my MBA and I didn't get an F, but I got a B minus on the report.
And I was like, to me, that's failure.
was like, yo, if I'm going to go back to school, I need an A.
I need that A.
And I got that.
was like, yo, what the heck?
And he got my paper all marked up and this and that, this and that, this and that, thisand that.
I said, okay, cool.
Well, I turned in the paper early.
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So I sent my professor an email.
said, hey, the paper is not due for another three days.
Can I learn from your markups and re-represent the paper?
He said, as long as it's in before the due date.
Sure thing.
Got a B minus.
went through all the red markups, went through his notations, turn it back in, I got an A.
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Now that's not an F to an A.
But to me, I was like, I told myself going back to school, I want nothing but a B orhigher.
So a B minus is not a B.
So I was like, I need to go back and I need to go to it.
But I didn't cry.
I didn't feel bad.
I wasn't upset.
I was like, yo, okay, I felt it.
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This part of the goal.
What can I learn from it?
And I learned a lot from it.
And watch this.
I'm glad that he gave me a B minus because I missed something that I needed to pass thefinal exam.
And if he would not have gave me that B minus and if I would not have asked him, can Iread this and re-present it?
And he say, yes, I would have missed out on the final grade.
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That was so important because I got a B minus and I want to go learn from the B minus.
So I went back and learned.
I got it right.
It came up.
in a final exam and I was able to pass.
I got an A.
I said, boy, look at God.
Look at God.
yes, you know what saying?
So embrace it, man, and learn from it.
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Okay, okay, cool, cool, cool.
Don't cry.
Don't get pitiful, pitful about it.
Like, just enjoy it, embrace it, learn from it, and progress forward.
That's so good.
That's so good.
Well, I was kind of thinking about this as you were talking and again, we've kind of been,you you use this table of the metaphor of the metaphor of the table to represent your life
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and having conversations with yourself at the table.
And I think about what was really interesting.
So you mentioned Thanksgiving.
So one thing that my family and I have done for a number of years, this is something thatI carry from my childhood is
you know, for my childhood, I think I talked about this on the podcast before, maybe not,but, when I was growing up, like both my parents were recovering alcoholics.
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And so our thanksgivings were always really, really loud and really, really busy becausemy parents would invite all of their other recovering alcoholics that had been like kicked
out of their families, like ostracized people who are, without a home.
that kind of is like a island of misfit toys around the Thanksgiving table.
And so that is something that my family and I have continued into our family tradition iswe invite people who need a place to go for Thanksgiving.
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so, and that can look like a lot of different people, but we also connect with, we aresurrounded by a lot of universities here.
And so we invite people from all over the world who are studying here internationally.
And so this past Thanksgiving, had 11.
people from a combination of like India, Ecuador, kind of that area.
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And so was really interesting because we're sitting around the table and I'm listening tosome conversations and we're coming from all different faith backgrounds, different belief
systems, all these things.
And there were some pretty deep, hard conversations.
Like we had some...
of the Indian students who are like talking about their feelings of the caste system,which is something that I have no concept or understanding about.
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And then they're asking about American politics and culture.
And it was actually really beautiful because we were kind of coming from it from thisplace of like love and understanding.
And so I set that up to ask you with the metaphor of the table in mind, like when you'rehaving hard conversations with yourself and you're having to look.
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internally and do some internal work that can feel stressful.
You're wrestling with maybe facing some demons you didn't want to face or you're, you'reeven disagreeing with yourself.
You've got that like inner turmoil.
How do you deal with that?
Like how do you create a space to, to wrestle and to have those hard conversations withinwith yourself?
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You know, it's such a good question.
And it's a simple answer, and it's not a deep one.
Don't do it by yourself.
And I tell this to everyone, you know, it's like, man, if you know you're battlingsomething internal, why are you doing it by yourself?
Why?
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This is when I say you need to invite a therapist to your table, an emotional coach toyour table, and a spiritual advisor slash pastor to your table.
Yes.
Because it's like if you feel as if you have it all under control, you're going to makesome bad decisions that could eventually harm your personal life or harm other people
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connected to you.
To this day, I see a therapist.
To this day, I see an emotional coach.
And to this day, I see I have a spiritual advisor.
I have two, my pastor and another older guy.
And man, I'm single.
Sometimes if I'm being honest and transparent, Mollie, sometimes I get a little depressed.
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And sometimes I'll be sitting at the house getting cold right now, Mollie, let's keep it abuck.
You've been married for a while.
When you're cold, you go to your husband.
And when you're single and you're cold, I just got a black dog and I ain't going to myblack dog.
then sometimes them Instagram pictures be looking good, Mollie.
Sometimes I get a text message saying, hey, how are you doing?
And my mind be saying, well.
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Hmm.
I
you
Yeah.
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Hmm.
who was giving me wisdom, holding me accountability, and watched it, someone I could be110 % honest with, with my flaws, my sins, my weaknesses, my concerns, my mental state,
and not judge me.
And I think sometimes we go to Instagram, we pull up our phone and say, man, I'm justfeeling da-da-da-da.
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That's the wrong place to do it.
Because everyone gonna call you crazy, gonna call you stupid, you need help or girl, youjust doing this, or boy, you just doing this, you only got one life, go live it.
And that's, you know, you go live it, now you got a baby, now you got this, now you uphere, you did.
So for me, when you know you're struggling with something up here mentally, let me saythis to everyone listening, I don't care if you got a beautiful family, no issues,
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everybody has some kind of struggle in their minds mentally, everybody.
We all have something that we're battling with mentally, that we're battling withspiritually.
There'll be no reason for God to come down here to give us life and have life moreabundantly if we weren't battling something, right?
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So there was a reason why he knew that like, hey, I came to give you life and have lifemore abundantly, but I'm also going to die for your sins because the only way you can get
to heaven is if I come and intercede for you because your life is going to be jacked up.
So if God knew and knows our life is going to be jacked up, what makes us think that ourlife is not jacked up?
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And everything that happens on the external starts from the internal.
And so for me, I've just learned I want to eliminate as much stress and headache and painand sorrow and bad decisions as much as possible upfront by making sure that I invite a
therapist, an emotional coach, and a pastor to my table to hold me accountable and someonewho I can trust.
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That's what I would say.
Don't do it alone, man.
Pay that money and get you some help because it's going to bless you tremendously.
Man, Anthony, that's so good.
Well, man, I know we have run out of time.
I just want to say thank you so much for coming on and you just have such wisdom and man,I could ask you so many more questions, but I'm just so grateful for you just sharing your
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wisdom and I know that you are helping so many people.
So tell the listeners the best way that they can connect with you and learn more and allthose things.
Man is simple go to my website Anthony O'Neill calm you'll see my book there man We'regiving away a lot of like $2,000 with the bonuses if you pre-order the book from Molly
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show today Just for your audience Molly if they order the book we're gonna send them afree eight-hour how to go from 40,000 to a seven figure one million dollar net worth
And so if you go to anthonyoneal.com for slash book pre-order the book for like 25 bucks,you're to get this $500 course 100 % free because we want to help people take control of
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their lives, but then also make a lot of money while doing it.
So check it out.
All my stuff there, social media information, some freebies that help you budget to helpyou get a pay raise in 2025.
We got a bunch of stuff over there.
So check me out.
So good.
Thank you so much for being here, Anthony.
You're awesome.
Thank you, Molly.
Anthony, it's a big day because I am welcoming you back to my show.
Welcome.
It's so good to have you.
Molly, man, thank you so much for having me.
It's been a journey to get up here to my hotel room just so could talk with you.
So I'm excited to be here and thanks for having me back.
you know, that's the cool thing about technology is like you just got off a plane, which Ifeel very honored that like when I travel and I get off of a plane, I want to nap.
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And so the fact that you are coming on a podcast makes me feel very, very grateful.
So thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule to be with us.
I first, before we get into the Anthony 201 and all of that, my guess or my guess, mylisteners know that whenever I
somebody on the podcast more than once, which is a very rare occurrence.
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So although it's not as rare, eight and a half years in, like you start to have somerepeats, but it's a pretty rare occurrence.
And I bestow upon my two time guests, you have to use a little bit of like sanctifiedimagination to give you an imaginary like an SNL, the five timers club, you know, when
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they host five times.
On my show, you get a imaginary velvet jacket and on the velvet jacket is a patch with myface on it.
I appreciate it.
I don't know if I wear it, but I definitely have it up in my office somewhere though.
Yes.
frame it, like put it in a frame.
Anyway, well, I've just like I said, I'm really excited to have you back on.
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And so welcome.
So like you did on the last time, and I think I said, was before I even rebranded.
This is probably like three or four years ago.
That was the Anthony 101.
And so some stuff's happened.
So give us the Anthony 201.
So tell us kind of what life has looked like for you in the last few years and, and whereyou are right now.
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Man, such a huge transition from the 101 version of AO to 201 version of AO.
101 version AO was working with a phenomenal brand, a phenomenal company.
so since then, the 201 version is I've stepped out on my own and I've started really.
I've always had a heart for minority people to help them build wealth, to help them getaccess to financial literacy in the less fortunate communities.
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And so the two-in-one version of me is doing just that.
It's really going back into the inner communities, the less fortunate communities, andbringing hope, bringing God, bringing financial literacy from a spiritual perspective into
these low communities, man.
It's been such a huge, huge, huge
honor to be able to do so.
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know, we were almost at a million subscribers on YouTube.
I'm launching my third book here in a couple of weeks.
I have a little over eight full time employees on my my staff.
We've been honored and amazing magazines and just really just taking his heart on man, youknow, and I moved to last time I talked to you, I was living in Nashville and I moved to
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D.C.
So I'm in a DMV.
And that just really grew me it was so good.
Yes, yeah, yeah.
So I'm in the Maryland side of DMV, so I'm excited.
Nice.
Yeah.
I grew up in Northern Virginia, right outside of DC, but my whole life was going into DCand growing up in DC culture.
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It's so funny when I moved to North Carolina, growing up in DC, one of the big things isthe go-go scene.
When I came to North Carolina, nobody knew what go-go music was.
was like, anyway, so to hear that you are living in the DMV just makes me very, veryhappy.
That's awesome.
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So good.
Well, like you mentioned, and the reason that you're here today is because you have yourthird book coming out, which having just released my first book in the spring and the
amount of work and time and effort and just like labor that goes into that to think aboutbook number three, like gives me like hot flashes.
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And so I'm just like really just incredibly proud of you and impressed and just amazingfeat to come out with book number three.
And it is
called Take Your Seat at the Table.
And I want to dive right into this because, you know, especially people that have followedyou and know your work and, I mean, you host a podcast called The Table.
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And so this is a metaphor that you love to use both on your podcast and really is thetheme throughout this book of the metaphor of the table that kind of represents this well
lived life.
And so I would love for you to just kind of as the foundation for our conversation, justkind of
unpack that metaphor and share like why did you choose this as the central theme of yourbook and why is it such a big part of your podcast and all of that.
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Yeah, you know, when I think about that question, I'm honestly sitting at a table rightnow having a conversation with you that my laptop is on.
And the tabletop is sitting on four legs.
And then on the four legs is a foundation.
Well, we couldn't have a tabletop if the foundation wasn't sturdy enough and firm enoughand flat enough, right?
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And I think sometimes in life, what I've realized that people, we skip over building afoundation that our life can stand on.
We'll go from living paycheck to paycheck to wanting to learn how do we make a milliondollars overnight.
But we didn't really build the wisdom nor the knowledge nor the strength to sustainwhatever money we may have.
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We'll go from being single to wanna be married, but you haven't worked on yourselfmentally, spiritually or practically to keep and sustain that marriage.
And so when we look at it,
People are losing money.
They're living paycheck to paycheck.
We have a high divorce rate.
Friendships are not sustaining simply because we really haven't taken the opportunity tobuild a solid foundation for our life.
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And that's why I wrote the book, Take Your Seat at the Table, because there's a huge partof me that I believe has to, and hear me clearly watch this, it has to start with us.
And so many times we allow other people to sit at the head of our tables and tell us whatto do with our life and how to do things with our life.
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And we never take that opportunity.
My life is not my life.
My life was given to me by my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
So he is the pilot and I'm the co-pilot.
But here on the earth in the United States of America, it's my life and I need to take thehead of that table.
And so this book is really designed to help people understand, hey, what are the eightcrucial areas that you need to take control of?
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Not your mom, not your dad, not your husband, not your wife, not your boyfriend,girlfriend, boss, culture, community.
I'm talking about what are the things that you need to take control of and you invitepeople to your table.
And just to break it down, your table is your life.
So no one should be telling you what to do with your life.
Your spouse didn't even tell you that.
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Y'all should have an agreement of what we're going to do together.
But, know, Molly, I remember, and if I'm talking too much, let me know.
I'm a black preacher so we can talk and keep on going.
You know, I was at lunch one day and I talk about this in my book.
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I was at lunch one day with one of my friends and she came up to me and she was like, man,my boss told me that I should.
you know, do this so I can become this, have this position by this time and in thisposition will lead me to this position and that position will lead me to the ultimate
position of, you know, VP of such and such inside a particular company.
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That would take me about like a total of seven years.
I could be making $160,000, $200,000 a year.
Boom, boom, boom, boom.
I was like, wow.
I said, okay.
And then he said, yeah.
So that means that I can't have a baby within the next 10 years.
Mm.
I was like, how do feel about that?
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I mean, I want the position.
I said, OK, I hear you.
But how do you feel about
Like, do you want a kid?
Yes, me and my husband were talking about it.
We would like to have a kid in the next two years, two or three years.
But your boss just told you what to do with your life.
Did he ask you, did you desire kids?
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Did he ask you what's your goals and vision for inside the company?
She was like, no.
Did he ask you, do you even desire to be in this position that he thought of?
No.
So he didn't ask you what you wanted to do with your life.
He told you what you're going to do with your life.
She was like, yeah, but it's your life.
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It's your table.
I said, sis, here's the thing with us.
Bosses and jobs are designed to help us reach our potential.
It's designed to help us go where God wants us to go.
Your boss shouldn't tell you what you should do.
Your boss should ask you, hey, how can we partner together?
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Yes, you're here for a job and an assignment, but are we even aligned with what you wantto do in life?
And if so, how can we work together so that way we can have a longevity within ourrelationship?
Man, make a long story short, she ended up quitting that job, Molly, because they didn'tcare.
They told her like, hey, this is what we want for you.
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And you can't have kids if you want to get there.
So she removed that person from her table, from her life.
And she went and found another position that worked with her that she invited to take aseat at the side of her table while she reclaimed the head of her table, reclaimed the
head of her life.
And today she has two kids making $150,000 and she's not stressed because she took claimof her table.
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Right.
Man, that's so good because I think we, was just having a conversation with a friend theother day who is a business owner and she was telling me just about how, like she has
really struggled to find, you know, cause she's a female entrepreneur, she's femalebusiness owner and she's really struggled to find this balance between, hiring people and
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finding people that want to be a part of the vision for the company.
But then also want to like take some initiative and help.
know, kind of design roles around, you know, filling holes and things like that.
And, you know, and she's talked about how just she wants to build a company that is verylike family friendly.
And she wants to, you know, empower the people on her staff to not only, you know, makedecisions and kind of take ownership of things, but then also help, you know, shape the
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vision for their own lives and things like that.
And how she's seen this theme in, I feel like a lot of, and I don't want to make like, I'mnot great at making a generalization about
generations, but that there is kind of this theme where there's almost like this arresteddevelopment along with a lot of people kind of under the age of like 45, where there's the
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kind of this this age like 22 to 45, where you've got this kind of couple of generations,you've got some, you know, elder millennials, into millennials into Gen Z, that
They just don't know how to like take ownership of something.
They don't know how to make a decision for themselves.
Like they don't know how to just like, you know, grab the bull by the horns or whatever.
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But then they also they're seeing the effects of the burnout of like Gen X and the andthings like that, that just like all they did was work.
And so they're seeing the effects of that.
And so it's like this, like I said, arrested development where it's this inability to findthe balance.
And so I love the way that you talk about this, about taking the seat at your own tableand like taking ownership of making decisions in your own life.
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But that can feel really scary and hard for people, especially if they came from a familyof origin that had a lot of brokenness or a lot of, you have like maybe one parent who was
a workaholic with another parent that was a stay at home parent, but kind of emotionallyabsent.
I mean, there's all kinds of complex things that we could talk about or a single parenthome where
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you know, mom or dad wasn't there and was working all the time or all of those things.
speak to that person who's just who maybe is really struggling and wrestling with how do Iempower?
How do I get empowered to make decisions for my own life when that seems really simple,but for somebody, especially when you bring those things like family of origin and all of
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those things into the equation, it can get really complicated really fast.
No, and it will get complicated really fast if you don't have a clear vision and directionfor where you're going.
I'll talk about this as well as it's easier for me to make decisions because my vision ismaking the decision for me.
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I have to spend time to generate the vision, to write the vision, to make it plain.
The problem that I see when people who are like, I don't want to say no, or I don't wantto say yes, or I don't know how to make this decision.
Well, it's because you haven't sat down and said, clearly, what do you want to do andwhere do you want to go?
So I specifically told myself four years ago, man, I want to help a millionAfrican-American minority people get out of debt, build wealth and start building a
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legacy.
They can pass down to their children, children.
And I want to have that rooted from a biblical biblical perspective.
So now that I have that vision,
when this opportunity comes up, does it align with the vision or does it not?
If it aligns, cool, great.
Let's move forward.
If it doesn't align, I'm not saying no.
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The vision is saying it doesn't align.
So the answer is no.
And it's easy for me to make that decision because I'm sticking to the vision that me andGod put together for my life during this season of my life.
And so that is a crucial part.
of taking ownership of your table, AKA your life.
You have to have a vision and watch this.
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When you have a vision, it's even easier to invite people to your table.
It's, it's, it's, and it's easier to tell people you got to go or you're not welcome.
Like I'm single partially because there are some things that I got to work on within myown personal life.
I'm never going to be perfect, but I'm working on those things.
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But another huge portion of that is
They weren't aligned with the vision that I had for my life.
So I couldn't invite you to take a seat at my table.
And we're not aligned in the direction of life where we want to go.
So it's easy for me to say, no, baby girl, I'm sorry.
You ain't the one.
You cool.
You just ain't mine.
You know?
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And it's easy to tell my family when they call me and ask me for money.
It's easy for me to tell them no, because hey, if I give you that,
it's gonna derail from my vision.
I'm trying to put money up for a wedding one day.
I'm trying to put money up for this.
I got a vacation.
I'm trying to buy more rental property.
I'm sorry I can't do that because it doesn't align with my vision.
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Hey, I can't take that job.
Hey, I can't work with that person because it doesn't align with the vision.
Or I can because it does.
So if you find yourself struggling with taking ownership of your life and making thesehard decisions,
I want you to pause making decisions and I want you to write down where are you going tobe at the end of 2025?
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Where are you going to be by 2030?
Okay?
Get you a one year, five year, 10 year visioning goal.
Work your way backwards once you do that.
It is going to be so much easier for you to make decisions.
And watch this.
Hard decisions become easier decisions.
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And they say that they're easy, but they're easier to make.
it's part of life, Myla.
We're going to make some decisions that's going to hurt, that's going to make us feel alittle emotional, emotionally down.
But that's part of life.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I know that obviously just knowing and following your work for a number of years,you know, I know that a lot of this comes from your own life experience.
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And, one of the major themes in your book is kind of learning from failures.
And, you know, I love that this is a theme that no matter what stage of life, we can allconnect with this.
And, you know, you, as a single man and me as a wife and mom of two young kids,
This is something that as I'm you know, my husband and I are raising our 11 and 8 year oldwe talk a lot about learning from failure learning from mistakes and That can be
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especially when one of our children is a little bit more What's the word?
Predisposed to want to get everything right the very first time and is a little bit of aperfectionist and a little bit of a like if I'm not
the absolute best at this, that means I'm like, if I'm not first year last, like it'slike, one of our children has adopted the Ricky Bobby, if you hate first year last
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mindset.
And, and obviously, as this is a child and a human being, more often than not, there'ssome loss.
And so that's really hard.
And so, you know, I
my husband and I try to have these conversations with our kids about like, have to learnfrom those mistakes.
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You have to learn from failure.
And that is hard to accept as an eight year old or an 11 year old.
It's hard to accept for me at 39.
I don't know how old you are, but like, you know, it's, it is hard.
And so I'd love for you to kind of share how this has manifested itself in your own life.
Like how has failure in your own life.
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shaped your approach to not just the content that you produce in your podcast, but also inyour book.
You know, I have a messy life and it's not a messy to where it is a negative.
But if you look at my desk, it's a little messy, but it's still productive.
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You know I'm saying?
Yeah.
So it's, I think when I see perfection, I don't see execution.
If I see perfection, how are you executing when everything is strategically right?
And so for me, there's going to be some failures in learning.
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There's going to be a little bit of messiness in progression.
Right?
When I'm working out, I'm sweaty and I'm musty.
Right?
So while you're sweating and you're musty, your muscles are growing.
And so there's nothing wrong.
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If you go for a jog, you should not come back smelling.
Like roses.
Okay?
And so for me, when I hear people say, man, I failed, that's good.
That means that you've learned something.
That means that a muscle have grown in your brain.
Something has grown in life that has taught you what to do and what not to do movingforward.
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And so I embrace failure.
Because if I failed at something, it doesn't make me a failure.
It makes me someone who tried to do something and learned from it.
Now I can do it better the next time.
You know how many relationships I failed at?
You know how many business opportunities and business ideas I failed at?
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It doesn't make me a failure.
I can count on a hand the last four years of running my business.
I just knew I was going to have several, several, several seven figure deals.
I said, man, yeah, this course right here is going to make me a million dollars.
And they made me $50,000.
I'm like, well, that failed.
But then I learned from it.
It went and got me a coach.
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I learned, I learned, I learned, and failed again.
But my company is still making over seven figures a year.
And so for me, what I think where we have to really understand, and you'll learn thisinside the book, take your seat at the table, is the last chapter in this called A Messy
Table.
and how to embrace a mess of table that we just had Thanksgiving last month.
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We just had it.
I don't know about you, Molly, but I come from a black country, country, country family.
And when we went to the table, it looked good to start.
Hmm.
But once we all went through and we put our forks and our spoons inside of them, we lookedback at the table, it was messy.
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But that food was still good.
And we went back to the messy table to get some more of that good food.
And so failure, messiness, it's not a negative.
Embrace it, learn from it, enjoy it, laugh.
Just make sure that you keep moving forward.
And that's how I embrace failure.
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Here's the truth, and I'll be quiet after this one.
I'm going to fail again at something.
I'm going to fail because here's what I've learned.
Failure means I'm stepping outside of my comfort zone and allowing God to really beeverything.
If you're maximizing and killing every single thing in your life, that means you're inyour comfort zone and you're not really stretching yourself to go any further.
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I'm back in school to get my MBA and I didn't get an F, but I got a B minus on the report.
And I was like, to me, that's failure.
was like, yo, if I'm going to go back to school, I need an A.
I need that A.
And I got that.
was like, yo, what the heck?
And he got my paper all marked up and this and that, this and that, this and that, thisand that.
I said, okay, cool.
Well, I turned in the paper early.
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So I sent my professor an email.
said, hey, the paper is not due for another three days.
Can I learn from your markups and re-represent the paper?
He said, as long as it's in before the due date.
Sure thing.
Got a B minus.
went through all the red markups, went through his notations, turn it back in, I got an A.
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Now that's not an F to an A.
But to me, I was like, I told myself going back to school, I want nothing but a B orhigher.
So a B minus is not a B.
So I was like, I need to go back and I need to go to it.
But I didn't cry.
I didn't feel bad.
I wasn't upset.
I was like, yo, okay, I felt it.
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This part of the goal.
What can I learn from it?
And I learned a lot from it.
And watch this.
I'm glad that he gave me a B minus because I missed something that I needed to pass thefinal exam.
And if he would not have gave me that B minus and if I would not have asked him, can Iread this and re-present it?
And he say, yes, I would have missed out on the final grade.
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That was so important because I got a B minus and I want to go learn from the B minus.
So I went back and learned.
I got it right.
It came up.
in a final exam and I was able to pass.
I got an A.
I said, boy, look at God.
Look at God.
yes, you know what saying?
So embrace it, man, and learn from it.
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Okay, okay, cool, cool, cool.
Don't cry.
Don't get pitiful, pitful about it.
Like, just enjoy it, embrace it, learn from it, and progress forward.
That's so good.
That's so good.
Well, I was kind of thinking about this as you were talking and again, we've kind of been,you you use this table of the metaphor of the metaphor of the table to represent your life
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and having conversations with yourself at the table.
And I think about what was really interesting.
So you mentioned Thanksgiving.
So one thing that my family and I have done for a number of years, this is something thatI carry from my childhood is
you know, for my childhood, I think I talked about this on the podcast before, maybe not,but, when I was growing up, like both my parents were recovering alcoholics.
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And so our thanksgivings were always really, really loud and really, really busy becausemy parents would invite all of their other recovering alcoholics that had been like kicked
out of their families, like ostracized people who are, without a home.
that kind of is like a island of misfit toys around the Thanksgiving table.
And so that is something that my family and I have continued into our family tradition iswe invite people who need a place to go for Thanksgiving.
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so, and that can look like a lot of different people, but we also connect with, we aresurrounded by a lot of universities here.
And so we invite people from all over the world who are studying here internationally.
And so this past Thanksgiving, had 11.
people from a combination of like India, Ecuador, kind of that area.
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And so was really interesting because we're sitting around the table and I'm listening tosome conversations and we're coming from all different faith backgrounds, different belief
systems, all these things.
And there were some pretty deep, hard conversations.
Like we had some...
of the Indian students who are like talking about their feelings of the caste system,which is something that I have no concept or understanding about.
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And then they're asking about American politics and culture.
And it was actually really beautiful because we were kind of coming from it from thisplace of like love and understanding.
And so I set that up to ask you with the metaphor of the table in mind, like when you'rehaving hard conversations with yourself and you're having to look.
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internally and do some internal work that can feel stressful.
You're wrestling with maybe facing some demons you didn't want to face or you're, you'reeven disagreeing with yourself.
You've got that like inner turmoil.
How do you deal with that?
Like how do you create a space to, to wrestle and to have those hard conversations withinwith yourself?
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You know, it's such a good question.
And it's a simple answer, and it's not a deep one.
Don't do it by yourself.
And I tell this to everyone, you know, it's like, man, if you know you're battlingsomething internal, why are you doing it by yourself?
Why?
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This is when I say you need to invite a therapist to your table, an emotional coach toyour table, and a spiritual advisor slash pastor to your table.
Yes.
Because it's like if you feel as if you have it all under control, you're going to makesome bad decisions that could eventually harm your personal life or harm other people
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connected to you.
To this day, I see a therapist.
To this day, I see an emotional coach.
And to this day, I see I have a spiritual advisor.
I have two, my pastor and another older guy.
And man, I'm single.
Sometimes if I'm being honest and transparent, Mollie, sometimes I get a little depressed.
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And sometimes I'll be sitting at the house getting cold right now, Mollie, let's keep it abuck.
You've been married for a while.
When you're cold, you go to your husband.
And when you're single and you're cold, I just got a black dog and I ain't going to myblack dog.
then sometimes them Instagram pictures be looking good, Mollie.
Sometimes I get a text message saying, hey, how are you doing?
And my mind be saying, well.
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Hmm.
I
you
Yeah.
(28:52):
Hmm.
who was giving me wisdom, holding me accountability, and watched it, someone I could be110 % honest with, with my flaws, my sins, my weaknesses, my concerns, my mental state,
and not judge me.
And I think sometimes we go to Instagram, we pull up our phone and say, man, I'm justfeeling da-da-da-da.
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That's the wrong place to do it.
Because everyone gonna call you crazy, gonna call you stupid, you need help or girl, youjust doing this, or boy, you just doing this, you only got one life, go live it.
And that's, you know, you go live it, now you got a baby, now you got this, now you uphere, you did.
So for me, when you know you're struggling with something up here mentally, let me saythis to everyone listening, I don't care if you got a beautiful family, no issues,
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everybody has some kind of struggle in their minds mentally, everybody.
We all have something that we're battling with mentally, that we're battling withspiritually.
There'll be no reason for God to come down here to give us life and have life moreabundantly if we weren't battling something, right?
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So there was a reason why he knew that like, hey, I came to give you life and have lifemore abundantly, but I'm also going to die for your sins because the only way you can get
to heaven is if I come and intercede for you because your life is going to be jacked up.
So if God knew and knows our life is going to be jacked up, what makes us think that ourlife is not jacked up?
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And everything that happens on the external starts from the internal.
And so for me, I've just learned I want to eliminate as much stress and headache and painand sorrow and bad decisions as much as possible upfront by making sure that I invite a
therapist, an emotional coach, and a pastor to my table to hold me accountable and someonewho I can trust.
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That's what I would say.
Don't do it alone, man.
Pay that money and get you some help because it's going to bless you tremendously.
Man, Anthony, that's so good.
Well, man, I know we have run out of time.
I just want to say thank you so much for coming on and you just have such wisdom and man,I could ask you so many more questions, but I'm just so grateful for you just sharing your
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wisdom and I know that you are helping so many people.
So tell the listeners the best way that they can connect with you and learn more and allthose things.
Man is simple go to my website Anthony O'Neill calm you'll see my book there man We'regiving away a lot of like $2,000 with the bonuses if you pre-order the book from Molly
(31:27):
show today Just for your audience Molly if they order the book we're gonna send them afree eight-hour how to go from 40,000 to a seven figure one million dollar net worth
And so if you go to anthonyoneal.com for slash book pre-order the book for like 25 bucks,you're to get this $500 course 100 % free because we want to help people take control of
(31:49):
their lives, but then also make a lot of money while doing it.
So check it out.
All my stuff there, social media information, some freebies that help you budget to helpyou get a pay raise in 2025.
We got a bunch of stuff over there.
So check me out.
So good.
Thank you so much for being here, Anthony.
You're awesome.
Thank you, Molly.
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