March 10, 2025 • 27 mins
Ever thought about ditching your routine for an adventure halfway across the globe? In episode 150 of Carlsbad: People, Purpose and Impact, host Bret Schanzenbach chats with Ian Scott and Kathy Steffen about the transformative power of travel. Ian, President and Chief Architect of Discovery at Quest Voyager, recounts his journey from an electrical engineer in the UK to a travel industry leader. Meanwhile, Kathy, the Director of Fun at the Carlsbad Chamber of Commerce, shares how group travel programs can turn strangers into a community of explorers.
Want to know what makes these trips unique? From cultural immersions to behind-the-scenes tours of family-run businesses, these meticulously organized adventures promise unforgettable experiences. And if Croatia is on your bucket list, you’re in luck! Join the Chamber's upcoming trip to the Dalmatian Coast in October 2025. Tune in to discover how you can embark on this journey and snag an early bird discount. Ready to pack your bags? Let's travel!
For more details, contact Kathy at kathy@carlsbad.org or visit carlsbad.org.
Ian Scott Bio
Ian Scott is a seasoned travel professional with a lifelong passion for exploration. Born in Yorkshire, England, he has traveled across every continent and gained expertise in all aspects of the travel industry, including reservations, operations, product planning, and sales. With a deep understanding of chamber travel needs, Ian brings a global perspective and industry insight to every journey.
Connect with Ian
Cell: 760-576-0905
E-mail: ian@questvoyager.com
Website: https://www.questvoyager.com/
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Bret Schanzenbach (00:00):
Good morning and welcome everyone. My name is
Brett Schonzenbach. I'm thepresident and CEO of the
Carlsbad Chamber of Commerce.
once again your host today.Work. I'm excited to have with
me two guests.
We don't very often get twoguests, and one of the things
right off the bat that's reallycool about my two guests is
their job titles. They have,like, the most fun job titles I
think I've ever heard. So let melet me introduce them so you can
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tell me if I'm right or wrong.But first, we have Ian Scott.
Ian is with Quest Voyager, andhe is the president and chief
architect of discovery.
I love that. Chief architect ofdiscovery. We're gonna unpack
what that means here in just asecond. And then secondarily, we
have our very own beloved KathyStephan. And as most of our
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Carlsbad Chamber family knows,she is the director of fun here
at the Carlsbad Chamber.
So welcome to both of you.Welcome.
Kathy Steffen (00:56):
Thank you, Brad.
Ian Scott (00:57):
Thank you, Brad.
Bret Schanzenbach (00:57):
Yeah. It's great to have you both. Ian, I'm
gonna start with you a littlebit. And, our topic, you know,
your title is architect ofdiscovery. You've been in the
travel world for a long time,over thirty years.
Start with me or or start withus and and kinda tell, how did
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you get into travel in the firstplace? What, you know, what got
you into this field, this lineof work? Because you've been in
the world of discovery for along time.
Ian Scott (01:27):
Great question. How many hours do we have for this
podcast?
Bret Schanzenbach (01:31):
That was a joke. Right, Ian?
Ian Scott (01:34):
The the abbreviated quick version is I'm an
electrical engineer by trade andand, at the height of
Thatcherism and privatization,the company I worked for was a
private company and it wasslimmed down. So, my friends and
I, we decided to get a backpackon our backs and we wandered
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around the world for two yearsexperiencing everything that the
world has to offer fromSoutheast Asia, Africa. Just a
wonderful experience.
Bret Schanzenbach (02:08):
Wow. And you have this, this accent that,
betrays the fact that youprobably weren't born in
Southern California. So whydon't you share with everybody
where you, where you hail from?
Ian Scott (02:19):
I'm from Biloxi, Mississippi. Can't you tell? No.
His, originally came from, SouthYorkshire, England, which I
don't have that accent anylonger. But for the last thirty
years, in fact, over thirtyyears, I've lived all over the
world.
Yeah. There's only one continentthat I haven't lived on, and
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that's Antarctica.
Bret Schanzenbach (02:41):
That's the only one you haven't lived on.
Oh, wow. Okay. Alright. So you,you were inspired by being, laid
off and just started travelingthe world.
Now now take us from thatexperience of a backpack to
crafting travel for othersbecause that's what you've
really been good at the lastthirty years.
Ian Scott (03:02):
Yeah. So I ended up in Australia after my
backpacking days, and I happenedto work for the Hyatt Hotel
Corporation
Bret Schanzenbach (03:09):
in Oakville.
Ian Scott (03:11):
And, there was a tour group that kept coming in every
week. And then I became goodfriends with the gentleman who
operated, the the programs. Heeventually became my best man
when we got married, and he gotme into the travel industry.
Bret Schanzenbach (03:27):
Okay.
Ian Scott (03:28):
So from Australia, we went to the Former Yugoslavia.
And I learned the trade of ofbuilding programs, operating
programs, and understanding whatthe North American traveling
public wants.
Bret Schanzenbach (03:45):
Yeah.
Ian Scott (03:46):
In a in a good value priced policy program.
Bret Schanzenbach (03:50):
Yeah. Oh, very interesting. And so from
Australia, what what brought youto our neck of the woods?
Because, you're you're aCarlsbad guy now.
Ian Scott (04:00):
I am. Yeah. Again, we need another three or four hours
for this conversation, but theshortened version is, from Costa
Rica where I was living, I wasoffered a a job opportunity for
a large Boston Wholesaler, whichI took. They they paid for my,
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my green card. They provide thelawyer, and such.
And and so in a nutshell, that'show I ended up. And I moved that
company was bought out by a SanFrancisco company, who
eventually
Bret Schanzenbach (04:37):
moved closer now. You you know Northern Cal
Yeah. Which we still consider aforeign country, by the way.
Well, then
Ian Scott (04:44):
that company decided to relocate
Bret Schanzenbach (04:46):
Okay.
Ian Scott (04:47):
To Encinitas originally. So they got smart.
They did. They did. The firstplace I saw in Southern
California was the beaches ofYeah.
Of Carlsbad, Ponto, and and,fell in love.
Bret Schanzenbach (04:59):
You were hooked as somebody who had
traveled the world. That's it.That says a lot. You've you've
been all around this world.You've even lived all in almost
every continent.
And here, you're choosing tolive in Carlsbad. I think we
should take some pride in thatright now. Just soak that in. So
currently, you have your owncompany, Quest Voyager. Mhmm.
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And, you work with us, whatwe're gonna talk about today, in
in doing trips. And, but I I metyou, about five years ago, and,
we were talking about doing atrip, with you, and then COVID,
you know, sidetracked it. But weeventually got back on track.
And, but tell people, what isthe value to them as a consumer,
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you know, going on one of thesetrips that's, all put together,
so to speak, you know, like,what what would why should they
do a trip with the CarlsbadChamber of Commerce per se?
Ian Scott (05:58):
That's a great question. And and, I think when
you get into a group travelprogram, everything's taken care
of. So everything from the theairline, hotels, meals, tours,
even somebody to look after you,your own private concierge Nice.
On the trip itself. So they areyour guides.
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If you wanna find out where thecoolest beers are Mhmm. In town,
where where you can buy the the,the lovely Italian shoes
Bret Schanzenbach (06:30):
Mhmm.
Ian Scott (06:31):
On an Italian program. They're there to make
sure you have a wonderfulprogram. And and I think one
additional thing that comes outis our journey of discovery. Any
company can take you to alocation like Croatia or Italy,
and see the sights and sounds.But it's an important part of
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our programs is to learn alittle bit more about the
country, to meet the people, tomaybe even maybe even learn a
little bit about the economy offamily run businesses.
So, for example, in Croatia, wewe go to one of the best
European olive oil plants, meetthe family. We learn about olive
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oil. We go to a and we alwaystry to put a bit of alcohol in
those journey of discoveries.Sure. Just to spice things up a
little bit.
We go we learn about, localschnapps. What it's made from,
and have a sample or two of itas well.
Bret Schanzenbach (07:32):
Of course.
Ian Scott (07:33):
And things such as that to to learn a little bit
about the country.
Bret Schanzenbach (07:37):
Nice. I love that. Kathy, let me let me pivot
over to you because as ourdirector of fun, one of your fun
roles is you've been our chamberliaison on these trips. And, and
so you've got to help,coordinate to a certain at least
on the Chamber side, coordinatethe the guests and the trips,
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and we've been to some funplaces. My notes say, Greece,
Ireland, Italy, Spain.
That that That's it. Yeah. Sotell us some of the fun things
that you've experienced, youknow, on these chamber trips and
and why you're looking forwardto the next one.
Kathy Steffen (08:15):
So one of the things to me that stands out are
the people. Getting to know thedifferent people on the trips.
They are amazing people who havecome together. We get to know
each other. We get to learnabout each other.
We travel. You know? And most ofthese people, a lot of them have
been on multiple trips now,which is really fun because I
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get to see them once a year whenthey come on the trips, and it's
great. So, that to me is myfavorite thing is getting to
know the people. But the tripsin itself, it is so nice to be
able to get on that plane,travel to the country, have
somebody meet us there, andeverything's taken care of.
I mean, we don't have to thinkabout where we're gonna stay,
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how we're gonna get there. Andit that that to me is is great.
I mean, it's one of the bestthings.
Bret Schanzenbach (09:05):
I love that. So I love what you said about
the people. So it sounds like,you know, we're kinda getting a
following, groupies, if we coulduse that term, like, who have
come, you know, year after year.And and I know because I get to
work with you behind the scenes.I mean, we'll frequently, meet
with some of the ones who havebeen going multiple years and
say, hey.
Here's three ideas for nextyear. Where do you wanna go?
(09:27):
Right? Is that right?
Kathy Steffen (09:28):
And that's basically what I do is I pull
our people that have been onthese trips and ask them, you
know, I'll I'll give them, like,five choices and Yeah. And wait
to hear back on what where theywanna go next year. So
Bret Schanzenbach (09:40):
Love that.
Kathy Steffen (09:41):
We get to go to, a great location that people
wanna go to. So it's a lot offun.
Bret Schanzenbach (09:46):
And I also I thought, the part that you said
about just not getting off theplane in a foreign country and
then not having to worry.Everything's taken. Like,
somebody's gonna be picking youup. They're gonna be taking you
to that hotel.
Kathy Steffen (09:58):
You know, it it's it's amazing, and these the tour
guides on the trips areabsolutely fantastic. One
instance, we had someone leavetheir passport in the hotel,
safe, and we were, you know,half a day away.
Bret Schanzenbach (10:14):
Oh my.
Kathy Steffen (10:15):
But they were able to arrange, getting back to
that hotel, picking up thatpassport, and bringing it to the
person that left it. So it wasall seamless. I mean, just
little things like that thatmakes such a huge difference.
Bret Schanzenbach (10:28):
Huge difference. And I know if I were
to ask Ian about theaccommodations, I'd hear all
kinds of glowing reviews. ButI'd let I wanna ask you as
somebody who's stayed in theplaces that you've stayed in.
Kathy Steffen (10:39):
The one thing that's really nice about these
trips, in in some instances, weget to stay at one hotel, and, I
mean, they are gorgeous hotels.Mhmm. The one in, Spain, right
on the water. I mean, I wish Icould have stayed a week just to
enjoy the hotel
Bret Schanzenbach (10:54):
Yeah.
Kathy Steffen (10:54):
Because it was so absolutely beautiful. And from
there, we travel to ourdestination so we're not having
to unpack our suitcase everysingle day and and repack for
the next couple days atdifferent hotels. So that's a
really great thing about some ofthese trips is we don't have
that constant in and out ofhotels.
Bret Schanzenbach (11:16):
Mhmm.
Kathy Steffen (11:17):
The hotels are beautiful. In some instances,
they're small boutique hotels,but first quality all the way
comfortable, and breakfast isincluded, which is really nice.
We don't have to think aboutthat. And then a lot of these
trips too, lunch or or dinnercould be included too. So
Bret Schanzenbach (11:37):
Very nice. So yeah. And I I remember, I mean,
every trip's a little different.We're gonna talk about where
we're going this year here injust a second. But I think if I
recall, when you guys went toIreland, you're trying to see
the whole island.
So you did switch hotels alittle bit more. Switched
hotels. A little bit more.
Kathy Steffen (11:55):
But Yeah. Every couple of nights, which was
fine.
Bret Schanzenbach (11:57):
Yeah.
Kathy Steffen (11:57):
But and the hotels were all beautiful, all
nice. And, again, small boutiquehotels, but,
Bret Schanzenbach (12:05):
And Ireland was just last year in 2024. So
tell me one thing that was supermemorable about Ireland for you.
Kathy Steffen (12:12):
So on our last night, we had a dinner, and we
had some of the Irish dancerscome out and dance for us. And I
would say half of our group wereup on that dance floor dancing.
I have video.
Bret Schanzenbach (12:26):
So Blackmail video. I love it. Okay. Super
fun. Alright.
What we're gonna do is we'regonna take a brief pause. We're
talking to Ian Scott, the chiefarchitect of discovery from
Quest Voyager, and KathyStephan, our director of fun at
the Chamber. When we come back,we're gonna talk about where the
Chamber is going in 2025. Sostick with us. We'll be right
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back.
So, Kathy, before we took abreak, we were talking about all
the fun you've had in some ofthe different places that you've
got to go. But tell everybodywhere we're going this year, and
when's the trip and a couple ofthe details.
Kathy Steffen (13:02):
Sure. So this year, we are going to Croatia
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and the Dalmatian Coast, whichis a dream of mine. I've always
wanted to go there, so I'm soexcited. The dates are October
11 through October 20, and thenwe also have a three three day,
extension that you can do if youchoose to. So, the base price
is, $3.09 $9.09, and that is forten days, nine nights.
(14:30):
So, and then you can do thethree day extension if you want.
Yeah.
Bret Schanzenbach (14:35):
And that that price, just so everybody knows,
covers everything, their airfarethere, their hotels, their
transportation while they'rethere. I think, several of the
meals, if not all of them, butseveral of the meals. Right?
Mhmm. Some little excursions.
So Oh, go ahead, Kathy.
Kathy Steffen (14:51):
I'm sorry. Gonna say, you there are optional
excursions you can take as well.Simple
Bret Schanzenbach (14:54):
options. Sure.
Kathy Steffen (14:55):
So you have the choice of if you wanna stay at
the hotel and relax and do yourown thing, you can, or you can
choose to take a couple of theoptional, tours if you wish. And
I know one of the days we'regoing to Venice, Italy.
Bret Schanzenbach (15:07):
Nice.
Kathy Steffen (15:08):
I've been to Italy but never Venice, so I
can't wait for that trip.
Bret Schanzenbach (15:12):
Nice. But That's wonderful. Ian, I know
you have a special place in yourheart for Croatia. I think, last
time we talked, you're finishingoff a a second home there. Tell
us tell us why Croatia'sspecial, what you're looking
forward to for our group thatgoes to Croatia this year.
Ian Scott (15:30):
Well, Croatia's a wonderful location. It's one of
the one of the lesser knowncountries in Europe, but it has
been a a favorite of theAmerican traveling public for
for the last decade. If I couldsay one thing, that everybody
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that returns off of a Croatiaprogram tells me is I wish I'd
have known what it was likebefore I signed up because I
would have taken my family withme.
Bret Schanzenbach (16:01):
Oh, wow. It's
Ian Scott (16:02):
the best destination I've been to so far.
Bret Schanzenbach (16:05):
Wow.
Ian Scott (16:07):
And it has such a strong culture, such a great
history. It has been occupied byvirtually everybody in Europe.
Mhmm. Yeah. It's been a hotbedof ancient civilizations, and,
it's just a wonderful place forgreat food, great drink, and
great history.
Bret Schanzenbach (16:29):
And I know you said a little earlier about
some of the stuff that, ourguests might be able to expect,
but you mentioned the, I thinkit's a 300 year old working
olive oil press.
Ian Scott (16:45):
Yes. Yes. That's in a very small town. If I could
start a picture in your mind of,of a medieval, fortified town
perched high on a hillsideoverlooking the Bay Of Kuan Air,
which is the the ocean. And wewander down narrow cobbled
streets to the olive press wherewe learn about olive oil, but we
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also learn about the theschnapps that is that is, the
made in the town.
And we sample about eightdifferent types of schnapps.
Bret Schanzenbach (17:18):
Oh, that's fun. Mhmm. Super fun.
Ian Scott (17:21):
I think I think one of the things that, our
travelers and and and and andCarlsbad Chamber travels enjoy
is the the the way that theprograms are planned. So it's,
Cathy mentioned about the thethe lack of or the least amounts
of packs and unpacked. Yeah. Wetry and cater to all aspects of
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travel. Somebody who wants to beon the go all the time with
included tours and optionaltours, which could be purchased
on the program itself, orsomebody that would like a
little bit of free time.
You've Yeah. You've always gotyour airfare taken care of.
You've always got most of yourmeals. You've got somebody to
look after you on the program.You've got a lot of tours
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included, but then three dayswhen you can wander off and do
whatever you'd like with theadvice of your tour director,
your private concierge.
You can do whatever you'd likeon those days. Nice. Or, again,
join other travels with anoptional tour with only you in
mind.
Bret Schanzenbach (18:22):
Ah, it's great. I like that flexibility,
but also structure, you know, asa as somebody who wouldn't
necessarily be familiar with,the area, getting that insider,
you know, tip to go sample thisand sample that and experience
this. And, I thought I sawdidn't I see somewhere? Kathy,
you know the trip better than Ido.
Kathy Steffen (18:44):
I wanna hear about the Game of Thrones.
Ian Scott (18:47):
Oh, you know, you you Split and Dubrovnik, they are
living, working medieval towns.
Bret Schanzenbach (18:54):
Yeah.
Ian Scott (18:55):
You go to the Diocletian's Palace. That's
where emperor Diocletian livedand and built the palace. It is
not quite the same as whenemperor Diocletian was there,
but it's not far off. And peoplelive within there. We go
underneath the Diocletian'sPalace, and we we walk the
streets.
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And when the Game of Thrones wasfilmed, there was no need for
sets here, sets there. The setwas already made and and
Bret Schanzenbach (19:28):
and It's a living set.
Ian Scott (19:29):
Was a workable entity there and then. And and
Dubrovnik is exactly the samething, but even more. Mhmm. To
see the walled city that isintact, to wander down the
narrow cobbled streets, to havea wonderful cup of coffee, a
slice of cake, where, yeah,Roman legions have have wandered
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centuries ago where people havebeen walking on the cobbles for
for centuries upon centuries.Just spellbinding.
Bret Schanzenbach (20:01):
Yeah. Oh, it's awesome. I love that that
visual. Kathy, I know you're awine aficionado. I thought I saw
somewhere in the itinerary, awine excursion or something.
Kathy Steffen (20:13):
I I know with Ian, there's always wine
included somewhere.
Bret Schanzenbach (20:16):
On the Island Of Cook. Okay.
Ian Scott (20:18):
K R K, but it's like Captain Kirk. It's pronounced
like Captain Kirk of theStarship Enterprise. Yes. But it
is it's, where Grashovina grapescome from. So we'll pop into a
locally family run, vineyard.
Bret Schanzenbach (20:33):
Love it.
Ian Scott (20:34):
We'll learn about the grapes. We'll learn about family
life. They even have a pastaline, that the grandmother has
devised over the years, and thethe grandsons have assisted in
marketing. So, again, it's partof that journey of discovery,
learning about things that youprobably wouldn't normally learn
on other company and othertrips, but also sampling a spot
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of wine or two along the way.
Bret Schanzenbach (21:01):
Very nice. Very nice. Kathy, if somebody
wanted to sign up, they'rehearing about this, maybe they
wanna learn more. But if they'relike, no. I'm in.
You guys sold me. I wanna signup right now. How how do they do
that?
Kathy Steffen (21:14):
So there's several ways you can do it. You
can reach out to me. Email iskathy@carlsbad.org, k a t h y at
carlsbad dot org, and, I willsend you all the information,
the links that you need, or youcan just visit our website. And
right on the main page, there'sa slider. You click on that
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slider.
It'll take you to the Chamber,travel page, and all the
information you need is there aswell.
Bret Schanzenbach (21:41):
Very nice. It's, so it's 3,999, but that's
if they sign up by a certaindate, I believe. And and and let
me clarify. Signing up bycertain date's a deposit, not
the full amount.
Kathy Steffen (21:54):
Right.
Bret Schanzenbach (21:54):
Okay.
Kathy Steffen (21:54):
So the deposit for the trip is 800.
Bret Schanzenbach (21:57):
K.
Kathy Steffen (21:59):
And the deadline is March 21 for the early bird
special. If you sign up beforethen, you'll save a hundred
dollars. So I hope that you canjoin us because it's such a a
great experience.
Bret Schanzenbach (22:12):
And if somebody's like, oh, I'm not
sure by March 21, but then comeJuly 1, they're like, okay. I
think I can swing this. I'mready. You know? The the dates
are gonna work on my calendar.
They still can sign up all theway basically until when,
roughly?
Ian Scott (22:28):
Whenever there's space available, these programs
go quickly. Gotcha. So if youknow you want to go, you really
should sign up as soon as youmake that Yeah. Determination.
Determination of it.
Yes.
Kathy Steffen (22:41):
Right.
Bret Schanzenbach (22:41):
Got it. Okay. And then I know because I've,
you know, had the opportunity tobe in some of the presentations,
but, you frequently encouragepeople to get, like, some travel
insurance in case theircircumstances change because
this is far in advance. But andwe get it. Things change.
So there's ways they can kindaprotect themselves if, they're
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worried about somethingchanging. So that's great. But,
ultimately and will they willwill the group fly out of San
Diego, out of LA, out of
Kathy Steffen (23:13):
We'll fly out of San Diego.
Bret Schanzenbach (23:15):
Out of San Diego. Great.
Kathy Steffen (23:16):
Meet there as a group. Now I also wanna say
invite your friends and family.Even if they live in another
state
Bret Schanzenbach (23:22):
Oh, good point.
Kathy Steffen (23:23):
We can make the arrangements, to have them join
us. So, don't be afraid justbecause you're not in San Diego
that you can't do this trip. I Iwe have lots of family members
who join us.
Bret Schanzenbach (23:35):
I think if I remember correctly, we have,
some some of our originaltravelers who moved to Utah that
keep going with us each year.Yeah. So
Kathy Steffen (23:43):
They do.
Bret Schanzenbach (23:43):
So they can fly out of different major
airports and still participatein the trip.
Kathy Steffen (23:47):
Correct.
Bret Schanzenbach (23:47):
Oh, that's great. I'm glad you, brought
that up. It sounds like a afantastic trip. Is there
anything we miss? I don't wannamiss it.
Are we gonna get to is the groupthat goes get gonna get to see
your home, Ian?
Ian Scott (24:02):
As long as you bring a a pot of paint and some
paintbrushes Yes. You'rewelcome. Working party? Please
come along. You know, there'sthere's so much.
Yep. Travel is an education andit is a privilege. I may be
biased, but I think everybodyshould travel. Yeah. There's so
much you can learn, especiallywhen you're traveling as a
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delegation with the chamber onwhat I call an international
awareness program.
These are these are wonderfuleducational, experiences you
have. And and again, there's somuch we can talk about from
Plitvice Lakes, the the firstnational park of Croatia, which
has the clearest, most emeraldblue or turquoise, blue waters
Bret Schanzenbach (24:51):
Mhmm.
Ian Scott (24:51):
That you've seen in your life, through to the, yes,
the Grand Canal Of Venice,through to Hula and its fabulous
arc, amphitheater. Yeah. There'sso much. Yeah.
Bret Schanzenbach (25:06):
Yeah. That sounds amazing.
Kathy Steffen (25:07):
With the extension two, we get to go to
Monctoninaga. Oh, you're right.Yeah.
Bret Schanzenbach (25:12):
Go ahead. Talk about that extension.
Kathy Steffen (25:13):
So there the three day extension, I I'll
actually have Ian talk about itbecause he knows it so well.
Sure. But Montenegro Montenegro.Is one of another place on my
bucket list. Uh-huh.
Yes.
Ian Scott (25:28):
So we also go to Mostar on the way from Split to
Dubrovnik. We stop off inMostar. So we'll learn about the
Turkish history and heritage.We'll see the the famous Mostar
Bridge, which is, Mostar'sequivalent of the cliff divers
of Acapulco. We will learn alittle bit about that strong
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Turkish coffee that puts hairson your chest.
We'll then continue on down,through to, Dubrovnik and
experience Dubrovnik. Afterthat, we've got a program out
to, Montenegro, another country,the Bay Of Kotor, 1 of the most
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spectacular Southern Europeanfjords. For those people who've
been to Scandinavia, this is theSouthern, European fjords.
Beautiful. Mountainsides, cliffscascading down to the to the, to
the ocean below.
Bret Schanzenbach (26:24):
Very nice. Very nice. So, again, folks, if
you wanna find out moreinformation, our website
carlsbad.org, and you'll see,the very home page. You'll see a
slider come by. You can click onthat and get more information.
Or you can also email ourdirector of fun, kathy with a k,
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k a t h y, at carlsbad dot org,and she can, help guide you.
Guys, thank you for taking thetime to come and share about,
our Chamber travel in general,but especially our trip coming
up to Croatia in 2025. I thinkit's gonna be a good group.
Hopefully, we can get a lot offolks on there and have a great
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time.
Ian Scott (27:07):
Thank you, Brett.
Kathy Steffen (27:07):
Thank you, Brett.
Bret Schanzenbach (27:08):
Sounds like a lot of fun, and I'm sure they're
gonna be flocking. The world has
Ian Scott (27:12):
a lot of fun on a lot of adventures. Join the chamber
on them.
Bret Schanzenbach (27:16):
Yes. Amen. Thank you. Thanks for joining us
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Impact.
Good morning and welcome everyone. My name is
Brett Schonzenbach. I'm thepresident and CEO of the
Carlsbad Chamber of Commerce.
once again your host today.Work. I'm excited to have with
me two guests.
We don't very often get twoguests, and one of the things
right off the bat that's reallycool about my two guests is
their job titles. They have,like, the most fun job titles I
think I've ever heard. So let melet me introduce them so you can
(00:24):
tell me if I'm right or wrong.But first, we have Ian Scott.
Ian is with Quest Voyager, andhe is the president and chief
architect of discovery.
I love that. Chief architect ofdiscovery. We're gonna unpack
what that means here in just asecond. And then secondarily, we
have our very own beloved KathyStephan. And as most of our
(00:49):
Carlsbad Chamber family knows,she is the director of fun here
at the Carlsbad Chamber.
So welcome to both of you.Welcome.
Kathy Steffen (00:56):
Thank you, Brad.
Ian Scott (00:57):
Thank you, Brad.
Bret Schanzenbach (00:57):
Yeah. It's great to have you both. Ian, I'm
gonna start with you a littlebit. And, our topic, you know,
your title is architect ofdiscovery. You've been in the
travel world for a long time,over thirty years.
Start with me or or start withus and and kinda tell, how did
(01:18):
you get into travel in the firstplace? What, you know, what got
you into this field, this lineof work? Because you've been in
the world of discovery for along time.
Ian Scott (01:27):
Great question. How many hours do we have for this
podcast?
Bret Schanzenbach (01:31):
That was a joke. Right, Ian?
Ian Scott (01:34):
The the abbreviated quick version is I'm an
electrical engineer by trade andand, at the height of
Thatcherism and privatization,the company I worked for was a
private company and it wasslimmed down. So, my friends and
I, we decided to get a backpackon our backs and we wandered
(01:56):
around the world for two yearsexperiencing everything that the
world has to offer fromSoutheast Asia, Africa. Just a
wonderful experience.
Bret Schanzenbach (02:08):
Wow. And you have this, this accent that,
betrays the fact that youprobably weren't born in
Southern California. So whydon't you share with everybody
where you, where you hail from?
Ian Scott (02:19):
I'm from Biloxi, Mississippi. Can't you tell? No.
His, originally came from, SouthYorkshire, England, which I
don't have that accent anylonger. But for the last thirty
years, in fact, over thirtyyears, I've lived all over the
world.
Yeah. There's only one continentthat I haven't lived on, and
(02:40):
that's Antarctica.
Bret Schanzenbach (02:41):
That's the only one you haven't lived on.
Oh, wow. Okay. Alright. So you,you were inspired by being, laid
off and just started travelingthe world.
Now now take us from thatexperience of a backpack to
crafting travel for othersbecause that's what you've
really been good at the lastthirty years.
Ian Scott (03:02):
Yeah. So I ended up in Australia after my
backpacking days, and I happenedto work for the Hyatt Hotel
Corporation
Bret Schanzenbach (03:09):
in Oakville.
Ian Scott (03:11):
And, there was a tour group that kept coming in every
week. And then I became goodfriends with the gentleman who
operated, the the programs. Heeventually became my best man
when we got married, and he gotme into the travel industry.
Bret Schanzenbach (03:27):
Okay.
Ian Scott (03:28):
So from Australia, we went to the Former Yugoslavia.
And I learned the trade of ofbuilding programs, operating
programs, and understanding whatthe North American traveling
public wants.
Bret Schanzenbach (03:45):
Yeah.
Ian Scott (03:46):
In a in a good value priced policy program.
Bret Schanzenbach (03:50):
Yeah. Oh, very interesting. And so from
Australia, what what brought youto our neck of the woods?
Because, you're you're aCarlsbad guy now.
Ian Scott (04:00):
I am. Yeah. Again, we need another three or four hours
for this conversation, but theshortened version is, from Costa
Rica where I was living, I wasoffered a a job opportunity for
a large Boston Wholesaler, whichI took. They they paid for my,
(04:22):
my green card. They provide thelawyer, and such.
And and so in a nutshell, that'show I ended up. And I moved that
company was bought out by a SanFrancisco company, who
eventually
Bret Schanzenbach (04:37):
moved closer now. You you know Northern Cal
Yeah. Which we still consider aforeign country, by the way.
Well, then
Ian Scott (04:44):
that company decided to relocate
Bret Schanzenbach (04:46):
Okay.
Ian Scott (04:47):
To Encinitas originally. So they got smart.
They did. They did. The firstplace I saw in Southern
California was the beaches ofYeah.
Of Carlsbad, Ponto, and and,fell in love.
Bret Schanzenbach (04:59):
You were hooked as somebody who had
traveled the world. That's it.That says a lot. You've you've
been all around this world.You've even lived all in almost
every continent.
And here, you're choosing tolive in Carlsbad. I think we
should take some pride in thatright now. Just soak that in. So
currently, you have your owncompany, Quest Voyager. Mhmm.
(05:20):
And, you work with us, whatwe're gonna talk about today, in
in doing trips. And, but I I metyou, about five years ago, and,
we were talking about doing atrip, with you, and then COVID,
you know, sidetracked it. But weeventually got back on track.
And, but tell people, what isthe value to them as a consumer,
(05:46):
you know, going on one of thesetrips that's, all put together,
so to speak, you know, like,what what would why should they
do a trip with the CarlsbadChamber of Commerce per se?
Ian Scott (05:58):
That's a great question. And and, I think when
you get into a group travelprogram, everything's taken care
of. So everything from the theairline, hotels, meals, tours,
even somebody to look after you,your own private concierge Nice.
On the trip itself. So they areyour guides.
(06:20):
If you wanna find out where thecoolest beers are Mhmm. In town,
where where you can buy the the,the lovely Italian shoes
Bret Schanzenbach (06:30):
Mhmm.
Ian Scott (06:31):
On an Italian program. They're there to make
sure you have a wonderfulprogram. And and I think one
additional thing that comes outis our journey of discovery. Any
company can take you to alocation like Croatia or Italy,
and see the sights and sounds.But it's an important part of
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our programs is to learn alittle bit more about the
country, to meet the people, tomaybe even maybe even learn a
little bit about the economy offamily run businesses.
So, for example, in Croatia, wewe go to one of the best
European olive oil plants, meetthe family. We learn about olive
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oil. We go to a and we alwaystry to put a bit of alcohol in
those journey of discoveries.Sure. Just to spice things up a
little bit.
We go we learn about, localschnapps. What it's made from,
and have a sample or two of itas well.
Bret Schanzenbach (07:32):
Of course.
Ian Scott (07:33):
And things such as that to to learn a little bit
about the country.
Bret Schanzenbach (07:37):
Nice. I love that. Kathy, let me let me pivot
over to you because as ourdirector of fun, one of your fun
roles is you've been our chamberliaison on these trips. And, and
so you've got to help,coordinate to a certain at least
on the Chamber side, coordinatethe the guests and the trips,
(07:59):
and we've been to some funplaces. My notes say, Greece,
Ireland, Italy, Spain.
That that That's it. Yeah. Sotell us some of the fun things
that you've experienced, youknow, on these chamber trips and
and why you're looking forwardto the next one.
Kathy Steffen (08:15):
So one of the things to me that stands out are
the people. Getting to know thedifferent people on the trips.
They are amazing people who havecome together. We get to know
each other. We get to learnabout each other.
We travel. You know? And most ofthese people, a lot of them have
been on multiple trips now,which is really fun because I
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get to see them once a year whenthey come on the trips, and it's
great. So, that to me is myfavorite thing is getting to
know the people. But the tripsin itself, it is so nice to be
able to get on that plane,travel to the country, have
somebody meet us there, andeverything's taken care of.
I mean, we don't have to thinkabout where we're gonna stay,
(08:57):
how we're gonna get there. Andit that that to me is is great.
I mean, it's one of the bestthings.
Bret Schanzenbach (09:05):
I love that. So I love what you said about
the people. So it sounds like,you know, we're kinda getting a
following, groupies, if we coulduse that term, like, who have
come, you know, year after year.And and I know because I get to
work with you behind the scenes.I mean, we'll frequently, meet
with some of the ones who havebeen going multiple years and
say, hey.
Here's three ideas for nextyear. Where do you wanna go?
(09:27):
Right? Is that right?
Kathy Steffen (09:28):
And that's basically what I do is I pull
our people that have been onthese trips and ask them, you
know, I'll I'll give them, like,five choices and Yeah. And wait
to hear back on what where theywanna go next year. So
Bret Schanzenbach (09:40):
Love that.
Kathy Steffen (09:41):
We get to go to, a great location that people
wanna go to. So it's a lot offun.
Bret Schanzenbach (09:46):
And I also I thought, the part that you said
about just not getting off theplane in a foreign country and
then not having to worry.Everything's taken. Like,
somebody's gonna be picking youup. They're gonna be taking you
to that hotel.
Kathy Steffen (09:58):
You know, it it's it's amazing, and these the tour
guides on the trips areabsolutely fantastic. One
instance, we had someone leavetheir passport in the hotel,
safe, and we were, you know,half a day away.
Bret Schanzenbach (10:14):
Oh my.
Kathy Steffen (10:15):
But they were able to arrange, getting back to
that hotel, picking up thatpassport, and bringing it to the
person that left it. So it wasall seamless. I mean, just
little things like that thatmakes such a huge difference.
Bret Schanzenbach (10:28):
Huge difference. And I know if I were
to ask Ian about theaccommodations, I'd hear all
kinds of glowing reviews. ButI'd let I wanna ask you as
somebody who's stayed in theplaces that you've stayed in.
Kathy Steffen (10:39):
The one thing that's really nice about these
trips, in in some instances, weget to stay at one hotel, and, I
mean, they are gorgeous hotels.Mhmm. The one in, Spain, right
on the water. I mean, I wish Icould have stayed a week just to
enjoy the hotel
Bret Schanzenbach (10:54):
Yeah.
Kathy Steffen (10:54):
Because it was so absolutely beautiful. And from
there, we travel to ourdestination so we're not having
to unpack our suitcase everysingle day and and repack for
the next couple days atdifferent hotels. So that's a
really great thing about some ofthese trips is we don't have
that constant in and out ofhotels.
Bret Schanzenbach (11:16):
Mhmm.
Kathy Steffen (11:17):
The hotels are beautiful. In some instances,
they're small boutique hotels,but first quality all the way
comfortable, and breakfast isincluded, which is really nice.
We don't have to think aboutthat. And then a lot of these
trips too, lunch or or dinnercould be included too. So
Bret Schanzenbach (11:37):
Very nice. So yeah. And I I remember, I mean,
every trip's a little different.We're gonna talk about where
we're going this year here injust a second. But I think if I
recall, when you guys went toIreland, you're trying to see
the whole island.
So you did switch hotels alittle bit more. Switched
hotels. A little bit more.
Kathy Steffen (11:55):
But Yeah. Every couple of nights, which was
fine.
Bret Schanzenbach (11:57):
Yeah.
Kathy Steffen (11:57):
But and the hotels were all beautiful, all
nice. And, again, small boutiquehotels, but,
Bret Schanzenbach (12:05):
And Ireland was just last year in 2024. So
tell me one thing that was supermemorable about Ireland for you.
Kathy Steffen (12:12):
So on our last night, we had a dinner, and we
had some of the Irish dancerscome out and dance for us. And I
would say half of our group wereup on that dance floor dancing.
I have video.
Bret Schanzenbach (12:26):
So Blackmail video. I love it. Okay. Super
fun. Alright.
What we're gonna do is we'regonna take a brief pause. We're
talking to Ian Scott, the chiefarchitect of discovery from
Quest Voyager, and KathyStephan, our director of fun at
the Chamber. When we come back,we're gonna talk about where the
Chamber is going in 2025. Sostick with us. We'll be right
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back.
So, Kathy, before we took abreak, we were talking about all
the fun you've had in some ofthe different places that you've
got to go. But tell everybodywhere we're going this year, and
when's the trip and a couple ofthe details.
Kathy Steffen (13:02):
Sure. So this year, we are going to Croatia
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and the Dalmatian Coast, whichis a dream of mine. I've always
wanted to go there, so I'm soexcited. The dates are October
11 through October 20, and thenwe also have a three three day,
extension that you can do if youchoose to. So, the base price
is, $3.09 $9.09, and that is forten days, nine nights.
(14:30):
So, and then you can do thethree day extension if you want.
Yeah.
Bret Schanzenbach (14:35):
And that that price, just so everybody knows,
covers everything, their airfarethere, their hotels, their
transportation while they'rethere. I think, several of the
meals, if not all of them, butseveral of the meals. Right?
Mhmm. Some little excursions.
So Oh, go ahead, Kathy.
Kathy Steffen (14:51):
I'm sorry. Gonna say, you there are optional
excursions you can take as well.Simple
Bret Schanzenbach (14:54):
options. Sure.
Kathy Steffen (14:55):
So you have the choice of if you wanna stay at
the hotel and relax and do yourown thing, you can, or you can
choose to take a couple of theoptional, tours if you wish. And
I know one of the days we'regoing to Venice, Italy.
Bret Schanzenbach (15:07):
Nice.
Kathy Steffen (15:08):
I've been to Italy but never Venice, so I
can't wait for that trip.
Bret Schanzenbach (15:12):
Nice. But That's wonderful. Ian, I know
you have a special place in yourheart for Croatia. I think, last
time we talked, you're finishingoff a a second home there. Tell
us tell us why Croatia'sspecial, what you're looking
forward to for our group thatgoes to Croatia this year.
Ian Scott (15:30):
Well, Croatia's a wonderful location. It's one of
the one of the lesser knowncountries in Europe, but it has
been a a favorite of theAmerican traveling public for
for the last decade. If I couldsay one thing, that everybody
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that returns off of a Croatiaprogram tells me is I wish I'd
have known what it was likebefore I signed up because I
would have taken my family withme.
Bret Schanzenbach (16:01):
Oh, wow. It's
Ian Scott (16:02):
the best destination I've been to so far.
Bret Schanzenbach (16:05):
Wow.
Ian Scott (16:07):
And it has such a strong culture, such a great
history. It has been occupied byvirtually everybody in Europe.
Mhmm. Yeah. It's been a hotbedof ancient civilizations, and,
it's just a wonderful place forgreat food, great drink, and
great history.
Bret Schanzenbach (16:29):
And I know you said a little earlier about
some of the stuff that, ourguests might be able to expect,
but you mentioned the, I thinkit's a 300 year old working
olive oil press.
Ian Scott (16:45):
Yes. Yes. That's in a very small town. If I could
start a picture in your mind of,of a medieval, fortified town
perched high on a hillsideoverlooking the Bay Of Kuan Air,
which is the the ocean. And wewander down narrow cobbled
streets to the olive press wherewe learn about olive oil, but we
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also learn about the theschnapps that is that is, the
made in the town.
And we sample about eightdifferent types of schnapps.
Bret Schanzenbach (17:18):
Oh, that's fun. Mhmm. Super fun.
Ian Scott (17:21):
I think I think one of the things that, our
travelers and and and and andCarlsbad Chamber travels enjoy
is the the the way that theprograms are planned. So it's,
Cathy mentioned about the thethe lack of or the least amounts
of packs and unpacked. Yeah. Wetry and cater to all aspects of
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travel. Somebody who wants to beon the go all the time with
included tours and optionaltours, which could be purchased
on the program itself, orsomebody that would like a
little bit of free time.
You've Yeah. You've always gotyour airfare taken care of.
You've always got most of yourmeals. You've got somebody to
look after you on the program.You've got a lot of tours
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included, but then three dayswhen you can wander off and do
whatever you'd like with theadvice of your tour director,
your private concierge.
You can do whatever you'd likeon those days. Nice. Or, again,
join other travels with anoptional tour with only you in
mind.
Bret Schanzenbach (18:22):
Ah, it's great. I like that flexibility,
but also structure, you know, asa as somebody who wouldn't
necessarily be familiar with,the area, getting that insider,
you know, tip to go sample thisand sample that and experience
this. And, I thought I sawdidn't I see somewhere? Kathy,
you know the trip better than Ido.
Kathy Steffen (18:44):
I wanna hear about the Game of Thrones.
Ian Scott (18:47):
Oh, you know, you you Split and Dubrovnik, they are
living, working medieval towns.
Bret Schanzenbach (18:54):
Yeah.
Ian Scott (18:55):
You go to the Diocletian's Palace. That's
where emperor Diocletian livedand and built the palace. It is
not quite the same as whenemperor Diocletian was there,
but it's not far off. And peoplelive within there. We go
underneath the Diocletian'sPalace, and we we walk the
streets.
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And when the Game of Thrones wasfilmed, there was no need for
sets here, sets there. The setwas already made and and
Bret Schanzenbach (19:28):
and It's a living set.
Ian Scott (19:29):
Was a workable entity there and then. And and
Dubrovnik is exactly the samething, but even more. Mhmm. To
see the walled city that isintact, to wander down the
narrow cobbled streets, to havea wonderful cup of coffee, a
slice of cake, where, yeah,Roman legions have have wandered
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centuries ago where people havebeen walking on the cobbles for
for centuries upon centuries.Just spellbinding.
Bret Schanzenbach (20:01):
Yeah. Oh, it's awesome. I love that that
visual. Kathy, I know you're awine aficionado. I thought I saw
somewhere in the itinerary, awine excursion or something.
Kathy Steffen (20:13):
I I know with Ian, there's always wine
included somewhere.
Bret Schanzenbach (20:16):
On the Island Of Cook. Okay.
Ian Scott (20:18):
K R K, but it's like Captain Kirk. It's pronounced
like Captain Kirk of theStarship Enterprise. Yes. But it
is it's, where Grashovina grapescome from. So we'll pop into a
locally family run, vineyard.
Bret Schanzenbach (20:33):
Love it.
Ian Scott (20:34):
We'll learn about the grapes. We'll learn about family
life. They even have a pastaline, that the grandmother has
devised over the years, and thethe grandsons have assisted in
marketing. So, again, it's partof that journey of discovery,
learning about things that youprobably wouldn't normally learn
on other company and othertrips, but also sampling a spot
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of wine or two along the way.
Bret Schanzenbach (21:01):
Very nice. Very nice. Kathy, if somebody
wanted to sign up, they'rehearing about this, maybe they
wanna learn more. But if they'relike, no. I'm in.
You guys sold me. I wanna signup right now. How how do they do
that?
Kathy Steffen (21:14):
So there's several ways you can do it. You
can reach out to me. Email iskathy@carlsbad.org, k a t h y at
carlsbad dot org, and, I willsend you all the information,
the links that you need, or youcan just visit our website. And
right on the main page, there'sa slider. You click on that
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slider.
It'll take you to the Chamber,travel page, and all the
information you need is there aswell.
Bret Schanzenbach (21:41):
Very nice. It's, so it's 3,999, but that's
if they sign up by a certaindate, I believe. And and and let
me clarify. Signing up bycertain date's a deposit, not
the full amount.
Kathy Steffen (21:54):
Right.
Bret Schanzenbach (21:54):
Okay.
Kathy Steffen (21:54):
So the deposit for the trip is 800.
Bret Schanzenbach (21:57):
K.
Kathy Steffen (21:59):
And the deadline is March 21 for the early bird
special. If you sign up beforethen, you'll save a hundred
dollars. So I hope that you canjoin us because it's such a a
great experience.
Bret Schanzenbach (22:12):
And if somebody's like, oh, I'm not
sure by March 21, but then comeJuly 1, they're like, okay. I
think I can swing this. I'mready. You know? The the dates
are gonna work on my calendar.
They still can sign up all theway basically until when,
roughly?
Ian Scott (22:28):
Whenever there's space available, these programs
go quickly. Gotcha. So if youknow you want to go, you really
should sign up as soon as youmake that Yeah. Determination.
Determination of it.
Yes.
Kathy Steffen (22:41):
Right.
Bret Schanzenbach (22:41):
Got it. Okay. And then I know because I've,
you know, had the opportunity tobe in some of the presentations,
but, you frequently encouragepeople to get, like, some travel
insurance in case theircircumstances change because
this is far in advance. But andwe get it. Things change.
So there's ways they can kindaprotect themselves if, they're
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worried about somethingchanging. So that's great. But,
ultimately and will they willwill the group fly out of San
Diego, out of LA, out of
Kathy Steffen (23:13):
We'll fly out of San Diego.
Bret Schanzenbach (23:15):
Out of San Diego. Great.
Kathy Steffen (23:16):
Meet there as a group. Now I also wanna say
invite your friends and family.Even if they live in another
state
Bret Schanzenbach (23:22):
Oh, good point.
Kathy Steffen (23:23):
We can make the arrangements, to have them join
us. So, don't be afraid justbecause you're not in San Diego
that you can't do this trip. I Iwe have lots of family members
who join us.
Bret Schanzenbach (23:35):
I think if I remember correctly, we have,
some some of our originaltravelers who moved to Utah that
keep going with us each year.Yeah. So
Kathy Steffen (23:43):
They do.
Bret Schanzenbach (23:43):
So they can fly out of different major
airports and still participatein the trip.
Kathy Steffen (23:47):
Correct.
Bret Schanzenbach (23:47):
Oh, that's great. I'm glad you, brought
that up. It sounds like a afantastic trip. Is there
anything we miss? I don't wannamiss it.
Are we gonna get to is the groupthat goes get gonna get to see
your home, Ian?
Ian Scott (24:02):
As long as you bring a a pot of paint and some
paintbrushes Yes. You'rewelcome. Working party? Please
come along. You know, there'sthere's so much.
Yep. Travel is an education andit is a privilege. I may be
biased, but I think everybodyshould travel. Yeah. There's so
much you can learn, especiallywhen you're traveling as a
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delegation with the chamber onwhat I call an international
awareness program.
These are these are wonderfuleducational, experiences you
have. And and again, there's somuch we can talk about from
Plitvice Lakes, the the firstnational park of Croatia, which
has the clearest, most emeraldblue or turquoise, blue waters
Bret Schanzenbach (24:51):
Mhmm.
Ian Scott (24:51):
That you've seen in your life, through to the, yes,
the Grand Canal Of Venice,through to Hula and its fabulous
arc, amphitheater. Yeah. There'sso much. Yeah.
Bret Schanzenbach (25:06):
Yeah. That sounds amazing.
Kathy Steffen (25:07):
With the extension two, we get to go to
Monctoninaga. Oh, you're right.Yeah.
Bret Schanzenbach (25:12):
Go ahead. Talk about that extension.
Kathy Steffen (25:13):
So there the three day extension, I I'll
actually have Ian talk about itbecause he knows it so well.
Sure. But Montenegro Montenegro.Is one of another place on my
bucket list. Uh-huh.
Yes.
Ian Scott (25:28):
So we also go to Mostar on the way from Split to
Dubrovnik. We stop off inMostar. So we'll learn about the
Turkish history and heritage.We'll see the the famous Mostar
Bridge, which is, Mostar'sequivalent of the cliff divers
of Acapulco. We will learn alittle bit about that strong
(25:48):
Turkish coffee that puts hairson your chest.
We'll then continue on down,through to, Dubrovnik and
experience Dubrovnik. Afterthat, we've got a program out
to, Montenegro, another country,the Bay Of Kotor, 1 of the most
(26:08):
spectacular Southern Europeanfjords. For those people who've
been to Scandinavia, this is theSouthern, European fjords.
Beautiful. Mountainsides, cliffscascading down to the to the, to
the ocean below.
Bret Schanzenbach (26:24):
Very nice. Very nice. So, again, folks, if
you wanna find out moreinformation, our website
carlsbad.org, and you'll see,the very home page. You'll see a
slider come by. You can click onthat and get more information.
Or you can also email ourdirector of fun, kathy with a k,
(26:45):
k a t h y, at carlsbad dot org,and she can, help guide you.
Guys, thank you for taking thetime to come and share about,
our Chamber travel in general,but especially our trip coming
up to Croatia in 2025. I thinkit's gonna be a good group.
Hopefully, we can get a lot offolks on there and have a great
(27:06):
time.
Ian Scott (27:07):
Thank you, Brett.
Kathy Steffen (27:07):
Thank you, Brett.
Bret Schanzenbach (27:08):
Sounds like a lot of fun, and I'm sure they're
gonna be flocking. The world has
Ian Scott (27:12):
a lot of fun on a lot of adventures. Join the chamber
on them.
Bret Schanzenbach (27:16):
Yes. Amen. Thank you. Thanks for joining us
today on our Carlsbad People,Purpose, and Impact podcast. If
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