February 21, 2025 • 47 mins
PART TWO WITH MACY KWOK ON CHANEL IN THE CITY!
Macy Kwok is a stand up comedian in NYC, originally from Hong Kong. Macy has stopped by Chanel in the City to chat all things stand up comedy with host, Chanel Omari, and how stand up coomedy can be a cut throat business and how challenging it is for female comedians to be successful in a male dominant industry.
Make sure to come out and show love and support for Macy Kwoks Women Uninterrupted Show at St Marks Comedy Club at 8:30 PM. WWW.STMARKSCOMEDYCLUB.COM FOR TICKETS
About Macy Kwok Bio
Macy is a New York based, Australia educated comedian. She is originally from Hong Kong.
She adds a unique voice in the comedy scene based on her AAPI heritage, and Multicultural experiences.
She was featured in multiple comedy festivals including the NY Comedy Festival at Caroline's on Broadway and Crazy Woke Asians in 2020. In 2022, Macy has qualified for the World Series of Comedy Competition and has placed in the top three at the World Series of Comedy Minnesota Satellite at the House of Laugh Minnesota Comedy Club. She also won the Joke Off Competition at the Very Big Very Asian Comedy Festival held in 2023. She produces all-female show - Women Uninterrupted and it was featured as part of the 2023 New York Comedy Festival.and recently opened for comedian Joe Wong.
Macy Kwok is a stand up comedian in NYC, originally from Hong Kong. Macy has stopped by Chanel in the City to chat all things stand up comedy with host, Chanel Omari, and how stand up coomedy can be a cut throat business and how challenging it is for female comedians to be successful in a male dominant industry.
Make sure to come out and show love and support for Macy Kwoks Women Uninterrupted Show at St Marks Comedy Club at 8:30 PM. WWW.STMARKSCOMEDYCLUB.COM FOR TICKETS
About Macy Kwok Bio
Macy is a New York based, Australia educated comedian. She is originally from Hong Kong.
She adds a unique voice in the comedy scene based on her AAPI heritage, and Multicultural experiences.
She was featured in multiple comedy festivals including the NY Comedy Festival at Caroline's on Broadway and Crazy Woke Asians in 2020. In 2022, Macy has qualified for the World Series of Comedy Competition and has placed in the top three at the World Series of Comedy Minnesota Satellite at the House of Laugh Minnesota Comedy Club. She also won the Joke Off Competition at the Very Big Very Asian Comedy Festival held in 2023. She produces all-female show - Women Uninterrupted and it was featured as part of the 2023 New York Comedy Festival.and recently opened for comedian Joe Wong.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
All right, we're back on Chanelle in the City again.
We just had a little bit of a glitch problem,
but we're back. We're up and running. So Macy, yes,
we were just talking about comparisons. Talk to us a
little bit. So a lot of times, Right, there's younger,
there's hotter, there's cool or funny or popular, whatever you
want to talk about. I swear to god, I tell
Macy every day. I cry to her that it's like
(00:23):
high school. And I'm forty years old and I want
to be out of high school. I tried not to
be in high school for my whole life.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And then but like, so how do you high school?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
And then you were talking about like creating opportunities.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
And yeah, outside the box. So do you think that
you can make it?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Like if you don't perform at clubs all the time
our house shows or get accepted at clubs, Like, do
you have the potential to become a successful comedian even
if you're not younger or hotter?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yo? I think so, I mean I hope. So I
don't know. We need to keep you, like, bitch, what
about me?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
No, but you're younger than me.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I'm close, I'm closed. I I'm like I have. I'm
a human, so I feel like I'm all that like
jealousy comparisons, like we just you know, you just cry
and then you just like bitch to someone and I'm
the same. I'm just maybe I do more meditation. I'm like,
(01:22):
you know, I just go into like go do some
like punching, you know, like boxing. But I think, yeah,
I was talking about. Yeah, I was on this uh
like kind of self development journey and I I was
there was this guy who talked about like create your
own destiny because I really hit hard. Like I was like,
(01:46):
you know what, like there's no one one way to
feel successful or to feel like you're moving forward. And
and the way I you know, apply to calmedies like yeah,
like I mentioned, I don't know if we caught any
of what I what I was talking about. It's like,
you know, if it's not in a club setting, can
it be like in a coffee shop. We could do
(02:07):
a like bookshop, and it's like a vibe. Like sometimes
even people like that, right, like you know, other clubs,
like other shows, sometimes they're in the back of a
bodega and like uh, you know, Nike shop and.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Creating a vibe really about, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
So I think it's it's obviously you want the industry
to like to recognize, right, like you have that on
your bio. And but at the end of the day,
I think, I think create. If nobody give me opportunities,
I create my own opportunities, if you know, to to
(02:48):
the extent that it's possible. But but which is just
why collaboration is so important. Like I feel like it's
not just comedy, right because I I come from this
corporate background, and you know, I feel like there's so
much barriers, uh, you know, in terms of women speaking
of and getting you know, breaking out. So I apply
(03:11):
everything from my corporate world to the comedy world in
a sense, like where I'm seeing I'm not doing in
my during the day asking for things like I try
to do it in the comedy side, which is for example,
you know, collaboration with other women are the producer of
(03:33):
the shows. Which is why I started Women and Interrupted.
This is the flyer.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I love the flyer.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, why you started right the show which is a
very important show and it's part of Knockout Festival, which
is celebrating women focused shows.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
You know, so I love that talk. Yeah, why did
you start that?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, well because I one more stage time for myself
and other women. That's that's that. And then I think
about also in this year, I want to create a
community around women empowerment, which is I think it's been
you know already. Women empowerment has been you know, kind
(04:14):
of going on from quite a few years, but I
feel like we still need to amplify it. Like that's
why I feel like I can still contribute. I wanted
to focus on like being self expressed, like that's my
I feel like my whole life has been like that's
a challenge, right, I have to, like you said, like
you don't see me like pissed off, like angry like
(04:36):
I of course I do. I'm a human, so so
maybe I'm just like you know, oh, you know, I
manage it and then like I but I do get
excited when I when i'm when I see you, So.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
That's maybe that's like you you're the only person I like.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
No, but that's why I said when we started having
our talks too, I think it's important like also like
getting together with your women friends who are collaborators and
talking to about things out loud, so that not dwelling
but talking about how to take a negative and change
it into a positive, Like you were really there for
me in general when like a lot of men weren't
giving me a chance.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Or I asked you like how should I go about
this and that?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
And you were there for me and you were like,
this is what I would do or this is how
I would approach it.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
And I really think you're doing so great, like you've
been opening for these big comedians, like you were like,
you're in the Hampton's, You're opening I big think you're
so far ahead, and I that's.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
The then't how come the clubs don't know?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
That's what I was gonna say, Well, why do you
think if somebody like you see somebody's ahead, why do
you think clubs are like very adamant of like I'm
not going to book her or she's a bit or
a lot of people say to me, I'm not ready.
But I've been doing comedy for ten years, so it's
like weird to say I'm not ready because I've done
all the open mics, I've done the barking, I've paid
the dues, you know how, We've took taken classes and
(05:53):
I produce shows for like the same show I've had
is this six years which we're going to see you
back on it when we returned to Westside Comedy Club
in May. But like, yay, you you know, and we've
done shows at Saint Mark's Comedy Club and we've had
such success. Like I guess, yeah, like what are your
tips to kind of move forward as a comedian. So
it is it's it's creating your own creating your own opportunities.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I think that would be my focus right now.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Social media. What about social media? You think that play
social media?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah, it's huge. Yeah, that's like where I'm I need
to get more, you know, I need to do more
for sure. And I think I've heard so many success stories,
not even just comedy, like you know, I have friends
who are in you know, who are founders and rights
like businesses and restaurants so like, so using social media,
(06:45):
it's like how they they get to be known in
the industry. So so yeah, I feel like, let's just
get get working. And I think, you know, timing also
timing sometimes, you know, right, Like I think I love
that you just you're pushing and then create our own
collaboration in these community like all the C words.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
So so well, that's what's gonna ask you too.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
What do you think it takes for men in the
industry to want to book more women?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
I mean, well, yeah, that's why we do the that's
what women Uninterrupted and all these shows during the Knockout
Comedy Festival, it's like a whole week of just all
women's shows, right, just to show men like, hey, look,
you know we we we created. Like, I think there's
hundreds of shows that am a knockout and my show
(07:38):
is part of it. So obviously come to our show. Yeah,
and other shows.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
But isn't it a huge six You're right, Like, in
order for men to see us perform at their level
or be equal, you have to be able to go
and support these festivals and want to showcase your talent
on these festivals and not.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Take it for granted.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Like I feel so grateful that I was chosen to
be honored to be part of your show during this
festival because now I have the opportunity, or other comedians
have the opportunity to show that they're just as funny
or just as good or they can just express see
I never even think of it as a competition.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I think more of it as.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Like you do just to get your art out that
that week, your expression, what you went through in life.
Maybe somebody else can relate or feel less alone because
of it.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, I actually I think maybe the reason why I
feel so like, maybe I feel less, you know, disgruntle
about everything. I'm disgruntled by the way I am, and
I just feel like, but I did someone taught, like,
you know, maybe in a class I I the teacher
(08:44):
was like, oh, like, treat it show like. You know,
it's an honor to be able to perform in front
of an audience like like, just treated show like. It's
a gift to the performer as well to be able
to even like if in audiences like like small sized
audience or big size you know, to theaters six hundred people, like,
(09:07):
it's still an honor to perform in front of you know,
fo to give you time to like watch, you know,
I maybe it's a little bit limiting belief, but at
the same time, I'm just like, Okay, I'm grateful, like
I can, I can do this, and that's what helped
me not be to you know, feel like to you know,
(09:31):
like the progress like measurement, like oh my progressing fashion,
and I definitely feel yeah, I'm complaining to my mom
alt I'm just like, ah, I don't know what I'm.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Doing, Like, yeah, how did she feel and how does
she feel it?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
She must be proud of you that you have an
amazing because you have a good day job. And we'll
talk about how comedians I always tell people like, you
can't make a living off comedy, even though you want to,
even if you're the best of the best, because it
just doesn't pay well, you know, to pay your bills.
So like, how do you manage the daytime job and comedy?
And is she proud of you? Or does she feel
like worried for you? Like my parents they're like, what
(10:05):
are you doing with your life? You're not even funny.
This is what my parents say. You're not even funny?
How you and you know, with me, I'm just so passionate,
like I'm just that's what I think will make you
also successful if you're like, I don't care what people say,
I'm going to do it anyway. It's because you know what,
comedy keeps me off drugs and the streets.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I feel like I'm a gangster and meanwhile, I'm this
white Jewish girl.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
No, But but for me, I'm like I want that Hi,
So I rather chase that high, even if it's at
a bar or six in front of six people, I
don't care, Like what's the goal?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
You know, what's the goal out of comedy?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
That's really well, your energy is so like the way
you're so dedicated to comedy, Like I really think that's
the attitude that will really carry us through, right, Like
that's the.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Yeah, that's a drive and my mom, yeah you talk
about Actually I went back to Austria in December two
months ago and I did a couple of shows and
she came out to all the shows, which is obviously
she did not understand. She doesn't even understand the set,
but she was filming.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Like it wasn't have been so proud just to see
you on stage, you know, a little shy macy to
like this beautiful blossom, like a confident woman really speaking
her mind, which, by the way, is not so normal
in the Chinese culture, right, It's not like the most
meaning isn't that different? Like being from another culture that
(11:33):
is a little bit more submissive, And now you're out
there and you're saying like I'm doing this for myself
and how does that feel for her?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yeah, I mean yeah, like she was just like didn't
understand anything. She was in the audience, and then the
host was making fun of her because she was like
filming everything and like other people said, they were what
are you doing? Well, this is a woman, but she's
coming from like, you know, a place of support, and
like I think she does finally understand why I don't
(12:02):
really call her that much because you know, well, like
I'm always you know, nighttime, I'm trying to do comedy
or if I'm not performing, I want to go to
the shows like I so I consume myself in this world.
And then so that's why she I think she finally
understand why I don't call her as much because like
of the time difference, like at nighttime is her daytime.
(12:25):
And then but I'll be in the club, like I'll
be you know, hustling, you know, trying to do this.
So but at least she she understands my passion, which
she appreciated, and then she was like, oh, you know,
she was like, oh maybe I should spend more time
thinking about like you don't have kids and like this
and this like you know, running out of time blah
blah blah. But like but now after she saw me
(12:48):
on stage, I feel like she was like, oh, I
fine whatever, Like you're not fine, aget, like's not funny,
you're wasting a time, you don't make money from it,
but fine, like at least.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
At least it makes you happy.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
At least it makes you happy or like, yeah, I
think it like like you know, at least somewhere like
doing drugs.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Like you said, right, it keeps me off all like
it it stops me from being a stirper and a prostitute.
Nothing wrong with that, by the way, nothing wrong with
that either. Like, but you're right, Like, once they see
you in the element, same with my parents, I think
then they realize, oh, it's not all about money or success.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Like they feel happy, you know, they're.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Like doing something that's important or helping other people, you know,
because the truth is, when we get up on stage,
we're putting ourselves out there in a vulnerable situation to
help people feel less alone or better about their lives
that day.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
And that's not easy, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah, so I think it's yeah, humbling. It seemed like
I said, like, I just appreciate each time I get
to perform right, like and then I feel like this.
You know, I've been doing comedy for a few years,
so I you know, I don't want to focus on
you know, being able to not so scripted, like I
(13:59):
want to do them more crow work and while like
connecting with the audience like and find more you know,
authenticity in my performance. So but yeah, no, I just
think that it's it's tough. But but I feel like,
like you said, we just show people like if we
can do it, like you know, we're putting ourselves on
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stage at risk, and they should they should laugh, and
they should come support our shows.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
They should support your show for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
And here's the other thing I love about you is
that there's never any like shortcuts with you.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
You know, I think that you're very good.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
When I need inspiration, I come to you and I'll
have a talk with you or we'll do a sketch together,
and I feel like, you know, you always teach me,
like there is no shortcuts, Like you have to be grateful.
You have to love what you do. There's no like race,
you know, And so that's what I think, that's what's important,
Like you have to like love the art because I'm
always like, what do I do? I feel this way,
(14:56):
I feel that way, and you're very like, you know,
just keep writing the jokes, keep wanting to do it,
keep loving to do it. Okay, you get rejected from
this place, you just go to another place. I mean,
how hard was the transition for you coming from Australia
and being from Hong Kong and then coming to New
York because it's such different, you know, also social like
how did you feel?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Did you feel like alone? Did you feel like it
was hard?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I feel like I feel like I wish I came
here like you know, earlier, because I I just feel
like people in New York are so ambitious and in
Australia I was more like kind of going with a flow.
Everything is good, like the weather's good. I on the weekends,
(15:42):
we just like go for a long walk, like on
the beach, Like the beach Bondi beach is like fifteen
minutes from the city. Like in New York, you go,
you just spend an hour on a train to go
to like walk away, like and it's not even good.
It shouldn't be even good.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
It's not even good.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
And I love Australia because I studied there too for you,
and it's like Bondai Beach is like the most How
do you think comedy is there compared to here?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Comedy? I didn't even know comedy existed in really, I
just saw I was watching a lot of comedy on
TV in when I was in Australia, and I only
see like obviously men or Australians, right, like white Australians,
and they talk about politics and everyone in there, so
they I feel like I didn't see it was possible
for me as a woman and also Asian. So I
(16:31):
just didn't know. That's why I appreciate like all these
you know, like Ali wall is so successful, like it's
really does create a you know, vision, like it's allowed
other people to see it's possible for them, and I
really I think that's that's really the truth. And after
I moved here, I think I just see this so
many I went to so many shows, Like when I
(16:55):
moved here, I was going to bar shows to support
other people, and I still didn't see it possible for myself.
I was like, oh my god, that's so scary, like
you know, but then I just started easy, like I
obviously like I took baby steps like I did classes
and then I just keep pushing, you know. And I
in twenty nineteen, I started my open mic sig Mark's
(17:16):
Comedy Club, and I did it once a week at
the mic and I and then I remember, I will
get people sign up to my mic, and a lot
of most of them are young guys. Yeah. They always
been like me, see, I need to go out early
on your mic big, And then I never asked them
(17:37):
like I'm like, you know, okay, okay, I understand. So
then I'll do the lineup and they you know, and
then they will leave. They'll leave after they finished their
set right because why It's because they have other mics
to go to, right, because I hit like ten my
and then I compared to me, I was like, no,
I'm done, like one mic, I'm done. And I had
(17:59):
this misconception that when you go to do a different MiG,
you need like a new set. And to my, to my,
I'm like, I only have one set that I you know,
I'm not going to do more because you know, other
people are going to think, you know, I have you know,
why am I repeating? So I didn't understand that concept
until obviously later on. And what I'm trying to say,
(18:21):
is like, oh my god. Like guys was like they
will do like ten ten likes that they will go
and they will ask. They were like can I go up?
And for me, I'll just sit there and wait for
my turn or like often times. But then I that's
like the comparison, Like when I was in Sydney in Australia,
I think I was more like, hey, you know, everyone's chill,
just chill, just like, don't you know.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Look that attitude, right, and you adapted that attitude here,
which which can serve you and help you. But then
there's the assertiveness of New Yorkers like right, like what
we talked about earlier in the conversation, when can you
stand up for yourself? And when can you ask and
not be too much? Where people enjoy working with you,
They enjoy you being funny, they see your overall like value.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
What other think. What I learned is like if you
don't ask, you don't.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Get Yeah, one hundred percent. That's what I've learned too.
That's why we have we bond a lot. You and
I have a like very similar work ethic and mentality,
so we stick together, which is nice because you need
someone that you can really trust and build that with
and know that, like I know my partner is gonna,
you know, uh do something, and like I know that
(19:29):
if I did a show with you, co produce a
show with you, it would be fifty to fifty, you know,
things like that, Like and that's why I stopped doing
open mics because a lot of the open mics I
did enough. And it is the beauty of open mics
is there's a way that you memorize your jokes and
it's repetition, right, And there's a beauty in repeating and
being prepared, and you have a joke after joke after
joke for the audience. But I come from also the
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school of like when I worked with Cedric Dan entertainer
and George Lopez, they didn't come from that. They came
from storytelling and crowd work. And sometimes the joke leads
to the authenticity of in the moment, and I like
to do that as an entertainer because it's real, it's
real time, it's not acting. So I think a lot
of times we'd create our own rules when it comes
to comedy. But there is a beauty in like repeating
(20:12):
and having a perfect set you know, you know, I
feel that the open MIC's prepared you? Or do you
feel like you practice on regular shows? Like, because right
now your set is pretty much you guys have to
check out Macy said, By the way, she's at State
Marks every night, literally every night.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
So you could check it out.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
But and then plus the show that she created, which
is Women Uninterrupted, I'll be on that show too, and
we have a lot of great women on that lineup.
I think, like, yeah, do you feel like it prepared
you or do you feel like you prepare you?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Like, I think open MIC's helpful. Two if you want
to try new materials, okay, okay, but but you definitely
would fee like the people in the open mind might
be not really listening. So again it's like a little
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bit yeah, Like it really depends. And I I think
doing shows like I for myself because I feel like
I didn't come from like performing background, so it took
me a long time to feel comfortable on stage in
terms of like being able to be myself. Obviously, like
(21:27):
I when I first started, I still pushed myself to
do my set. But that's more like, oh, I wrote this,
and so here's joke number one, joke number two. Now
you know, I feel like being more like have you know,
timingly done it for a few years, Like I'm trying
to be more myself on stage. That's I want to
be able to see my personality, like I want to
(21:49):
be able to know my struggles and like how I
you know, I'm also you know, disgruntle pissed about certain
things too, so you know, and then you know, it's
my point of view. I think, yeah, any stage charm
is good stage time. I also learned like we should
never turn down stage time. So but they open my
sometimes it's hard to make time for because that you know,
(22:12):
I finished work and then I'm you know, sometimes I
just don't have that energy to do so much. But
I still think any stage charm is good for for me.
But yeah, open my can be sometimes like confronting because
maybe maybe the other comics they're not really listening. Then
(22:32):
you're like, oh, I'll rewrite the job off because like
nobody reacted. But uh yeah, so so that's you know,
I think with your attitude, like you're positive, like you're positive,
you just you're you know, I like a personality because
you know you you you just share it with the world,
like how I love.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
You love to share my overbear.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
The best is when I see you laugh really genuinely
in the back. I'm like, oh shit, if I made
may see laugh, that means this was funny. Like there's
times where, like you know, some of your fellow comics,
they're not as supportive, and I understand, but it's not personal.
Sometimes they're not paying attention. They're in like they're reading
their set. One thing I appreciate about you is like
you really give me the honest feedback. You're like, no,
(23:17):
you know, like, okay, maybe all your jokes doesn't hit
all the time, but you're funny, Like you always assure
me like, okay, I see from the outside as your friend,
as your colleague, and.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
I'm telling you you have potential.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
So same thing with me, and you like you need
to mirror that sometimes to really feel confident, because, like.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
You said, we're human beings. We're not always going to
be like yeah, I'm amazing. Hey, you know, that's just
human nature.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Even the most popular comedian, Nicky Glazer, said it on
her podcast. She's like, you know, how many days I
wake up and I hate myself? Like people think I
have it all together, and I'm like, oh, I wish
I can do this.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
So yeah, well we're work in progress, right, Like it's
everything because that's every day. I think we just like
target like improving certain things. We're doing something to improve,
and I think that's it, Like the thing, it's okay
to feel frustrated and angry. I think finding people that
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feel your vibe, and that's important.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
It's so important because I love how you're not about
like even though you're a business woman, and like even
though Danny and Alex they're businessmen, you guys are very
good at like still being genuine about It's not always
about popularity or like the most coolest show to you guys,
It's about, Okay, how can we be innovative and creative together,
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how can we give this person a chance and that
person a chance? Like there's like a lot of good
equal opportunity, which is why I love Saint Mark's because
you provide this like speak easy, cool vibe, but then
this really behind the scenes equal opportunity that most people
should follow, you know, like you can't give every comic
every day a chance that we get, but that's the
fact that you have people that you trust and you
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respect in rotation, that's important.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Like yeah, also diversity too, except what we focus on diversity.
We want you know, I have on a lineup. We
want different, right, like we want you know, different nationalities, race, Yeah,
different perspective like it can be.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Yeah, I'm the background, rich poor No oh no, I'm kidding,
but yeah, you're very good with diversity and inclusion, which.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Is that's how I would want to see a show
like if I if it's like, uh, you know, seven people,
seven people, lin know, I wanted to see different you know.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
But it's so interesting because comedy, I don't know if
you read this. There was a book on I forget
the name, but I'll get it for you. Basically how
comedy used to be predominantly a white rich culture, meaning
what did that mean? White people who were like born
to artists families who we had a lot of money.
They would pretend like they were the like the broke
people doing comedy every night, But realistically, you can't do
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comedy every night if you don't.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Have a job to pay your bills.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Like some comedians we know are like, you know, working
two to three jobs. There's some people that work as
a waiter at the comedy club, and then they also
do you know comedy that's the real hustle.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
But that's not realistic.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
So it's interesting how much it progressed over time, which
it's with diversity, Like I guess what do you think
we need to see the change? Like what do you
think we need in the comedy world to get even better?
Like yeah, I think yeah, not all white, not that
I love white people too, not that it's all like
one race. You know, it should be different races. That's
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the truth, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
I want to focus online what will make the show better?
Like right, that's really that's just the you know, I
want people to come in and just like forget about
the personal life for a second, just like be with
you know us, like be with the everyone in that
same show. I feel like we are all in the
(26:58):
same team, right everyone if they laugh, you know, one
person laugh is laughter is contagious, Like you find something
funny than the whole room. Like sometimes you know, some
some jokes are so good, like the whole room laughed
and the whole room shakes, Like it's just like such
a great feelings. I just want to that like sometimes
obviously it's you know, it's show by show is so different.
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But that's what I'm focusing on, is like, hey, how
can we make the show better? Like it's it's it's
just so amazing, like its show ends, like you feel like,
oh my god. Like people if people have a great.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Time high, it's a natural high.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Well that's like, why do you think people have such
a hard time thinking women are funny?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Like what do you think it is?
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Like do you think it's a woman man thing or
do you just think in general it's hard to be
a comedian.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Well, definitely, like from culturally, I think, like you said,
that's just the stigma around women not funny.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, And you know, back in the.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Days, I feel like those material that men, you know,
men did was like oh, you know their wife giving
birth and now they're dad and I know the change
of diver it's like, you know, it's so if you
know they like those stuff and women we don't. We
don't just do those like traditional whatever same thing. Like
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we we are very we We are very interesting people too.
We have jobs. We we you know, coachro our moms
you know, you know, beat us all my abuse, Like
we have those stories to share too, so I feel
like it's a yeah, the environment right, like now, there's
definitely with Knockout Comedy Festival, All Women Festival, like it
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just creates more awareness, like hey, you know, look at
these women, they're funny too. I think it just takes
some you know, time, but I think right now it's
a sweet spot for women in comedy. Look look at
how many successful comedian like you know, blowing up on
social media TikTok and every day, right every day?
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Is there anyone that you well, we just we know
that you opened up for jos and Chia, which was
huge in Australia.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
How did how was that? And like, do you have
any women female comedian.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Role models that you want to aspire to that you
feel like, I want that career kind of you know.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Yeah Johnson definitely, yeah, you know, just being able to
perform with her when I was in Hong Kong that
was a great experience. I think. Let me think definitely
like superstars like Ali Wonga. You know how how far
she's gone, like and she's like so so funny and
(29:50):
a list celebrity. That's just like such a great inspiration.
I think. Yeah, locally, who do you like give me.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Some I love I mean, I love Ali Wong. I
think she's You're right, She's definitely an inspiration. And I
think I think Amy Schumer is one of my favorites,
maybe because I could relate to her a lot, like
coming from like Jewish descent, but she also had to
make it in such a male dominant at the time,
even worse because there wasn't as much social media during
her time, so she had to like rely on like
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really putting out the jokes out there and whether people
like laughed or not. But like, she's very funny. Like
I think Kristin Wig is one of my favorites. You know,
she's improv but she does stand up too, and I
think she's like she has like a lot of authentic humor,
you know. I like when somebody's like within themselves and like,
you know, Bonnie McFarlane is another good one.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
He's good too because she's it's.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, it's about being sorry, bless me, thank you, It's
about being thinking. It's about being authentic to me, you know,
and really like you are that person on stage that
you're off stage, because a lot of times with actors
or comedians like you are one way and then you're
not You're another way. And to me, I feel like
you should be always a good person, you know, yes.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
A good person, you know what I mean, but trying
to make people laugh, but.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Also being that positive off stage and genuine and helpful
off stage too, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Sometimes I feel like in New York, particularly people running
from spots to spots, right like thingish one show, then
there's like you just have time to you don't really
have the time to connect because they're just running from
one place to another. So yeah, I don't take that
as you know, they don't want to talk to me,
just like okay, but yeah, I agree, like it takes
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time to build a relationships, and I just I just
think it's yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
And even if your circle small like ours, like I'm
very grateful that I have you and my circle, Like
I might have four or five closest friends and that's
all you need. Sometimes you need only one to just
rely on and each other always book each other. I
think that's very important. If you think like I told you,
I said, I think my friends are really funny. I
might just book you and all my shows because I
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just I love you. I think you're funny.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
So why not.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Why would I give it to somebody else that doesn't
appreciate it. You know, yeah, Macey's gonna be on every
show of mine.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
But even you know, like I feel like you've gone
to back.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
You fought for me, Like there's ways to fight for
your friends in a professional, relaxed manner.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Why do I know that? Because you're an example, Like
I feel like you're.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Always giving me the benefit of doubt and like you're
trying to at least say, hey, guys, look at Chanel.
I'm telling you don't miss out on what she's doing.
You know, like you always bring light, and same with me.
I always bring light to people, like, Okay, Macey's gonna
be on my shows, and I'm gonna have Macey open
up for me if I do another headliner show. You know,
you got to think of your friends. That's that's my advice.
You got to come up with your friends. You got
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to come up with the people who really support you.
That's the only way I can deal with the rejection.
I don't know how you.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
No, I think the saying like, because I feel like
when you go through something like like say rejection, which
is every day, like oh he's just like like, but
I think I think, you know, talking to sometimes I'm
talking to like non comedian friends. They don't really like
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have they don't really have that ego, right, so they
just like sit there and be like, hey, okay, that's
what happened, and you know, grow up and just like
so maybe talk to non comedian friends. I don't know, but.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
That's what wasn't asked you like for mental health tips?
Do you have any mental health tips that you work
on every day for yourself and like to share with
the audience, Like you know, when people are angry or
jealous or like, what are things that you do to
like push through those barriers?
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Yeah, I I think it's important to yeah, try not
to like focus on one thing if that thing is stuck.
Like if I say, for example, I'm not you know,
I got rejected, Like say I've had submit to some
fastball and then they're like, no, not this year. Maybe
you know, don't come back. Like you know, people are like, oh,
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I want to see if I can get men like that,
Oh no, you don't have this, you don't have this
this like ah, and then I'll be like but then
I just focus on like you know, maybe break down
the steps like if, but I think it's important to
find out like why why not now? So maybe I
don't have you know, one hour for example, then okay,
(34:26):
we'll break it down. I'm like, you know, when when
would I have my thirty minutes right? And then you
grow like thirty minutes, thirty five, forty, so you kind
of hit those targets. But in the meantime, yeah, just
go like relax, Like I like eating. I like eating.
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I like Japanese food.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
This brings us certain next question, you love eating? So
do we chanel the city?
Speaker 1 (34:52):
What is a good Japanese place for Chinese restaurant to
recommend us in the city?
Speaker 2 (34:57):
That's like really good? Maybe I don't know, you.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Know, across the street from Saint Mark's comedy, which is
We're on eighth Street. Yeah, across the street there's a
Chinese restaurant called Chile c Che and then l I,
oh my god, they have best somepling and like and
we love so like we we did like a Lunai
show a week ago with a bunch of Asian comedians
(35:23):
and after the show we went I love it. Yes,
it was so fantastic. So if anyone come to see
our show March six. Yes, maybe we can hang out
after and we can go to Chile. Oh, we can
go to like Happy you know there's another Irish bar
across the street. Can, Yeah, we can.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
I would love to do you a good Chinese place.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
And also Saint Mark's has really good vegan like you
guys have really good bites like the French fries and
then banadas. The vegan and bananas are amazing. So you
guys can order that March six. You better be drinking
with us, you better be ordering us. May see, you've
been such an amazing guest. Going to have you back
on the podcast. Let everybody know where they can follow you.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Follow me on Instagram. I need more followers at MA
c kk m A c y kk. That's me and
I post on threads and I need to do more
TikTok and more reals. But like just like reach out
to me on Instagram, like if you have any yeah,
if you want to follow me and come to my shows.
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And we also have a diverse lineup on our show
on March sixth I was mentioning it, but yeah's doing
the show, you know obviously the amazing Chanel Murray on
the show yeah, you gotta see her shine. And then
we also have KICKI Young. She also my fellow Hong
Kong comedians. She's based in LA, so it's a treat
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to have her show. It's coming all the way from
LA to New York. And we have Katie Blunt.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
I love Katie, like yeah, very.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Works so hard and very funny and very unique. She's
a psychic, did you guys know, Like she might do
a little reading who knows, who knows Scheffani Davi And
she's like everywhere she's touring. So we have probably some
special job ins too. You never know.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
I'm gonna wow, that's gonna be fascinating. Also, that's another
thing we want to talk about, like date night. If
you guys, are you know, going on your first second date?
You know, this is a great show to come to
and take your significant other. And I wanted to ask
you the audience has questions for you about dating before
we wrap up, Masie, what's your tip on dating in
New York City since it's such a hard thing to
(37:38):
do and what's the Sorry, let's go for the first answer,
then the second question because it's a little overwhelming when
we talk about dating.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Oh yeah, what's my tip? I mean, I felt so
much like when I first moved here, I got ghosted
so much, and I'm like, oh my god, this is like,
you know, like I always feel like each day seems
like go really well, and then in the back of
my head like this can be the last time I see.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
I know they're like, I love you, I want to
have your babies. Then all of a sudden they're like,
I answer you changing their number. I'm like, fuck you,
motherfucker meet me in the back parking lot.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
The stories is horrific, and like back in the day,
it's like there's no this Facebook group called are we
Dating the Same Guy? So like you can cross check her.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
About this what is this situation? Because a lot of
comedians are like on this.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Meanwhile the guy comedians are still getting spots and then
the girl will be like screwed over and she's not
allowed back in the club.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Oh my god, scandal. Well I I yeah, this is
a group where you you know, you can check like
if you mention with someone, like you want to check
if someone's already messing with the same guy.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
It's amazing though.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
But it's like, yeah, it's like I didn't have those
like tools, you know whatever nine years ago I moved here.
So but tips is like, yeah, no, I think focusing
on our own thing first, pie. You know, it's because
I found comedy, so I'm always going to prioritize comedy.
So so that that's just you know, and now I'm
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in a relationship, but which is nice because you know,
Daddy's also a comedian.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
You're a great guy. Yes, he's an amazing guy. And
he's an amazing comedian, an amazing partner.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Like that's what I was always telling you, Like, yeah,
you have like these couple goals that are inspirational because
it's not always easy.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
I was gonna ask you, it's not always.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Easy to date in your industry, right, Like a lot
of people tell me Chanell, don't shoot where you eat.
But then I see you and Danny and you guys
make it work very well. It's like a mature relationship,
Like tell talk to me about like do you think
obviously the person you date should support your career and
if they don't support your career or help you, yeah,
like you and Danny help each other like be better.
(39:49):
So it's not about like using each other to get
to the top. It's about helping each other because you
like that person, you want that person to succeed, you
believe in that person. That's what I used to fight
with my ex all the time. It's like, no, I'm
not using your not using me. I just we want
to help each other because we like each other. But
if you don't want to help me, it makes me
feel like bad because it makes me feel like you
don't like me. How important do you think it is
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that Danny supports you and you support him?
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Like is that a major factor?
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Like sometimes yeah, I'm like you know, now, I'm thinking
we have.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
To be your biggest fan, right and you have to
be his biggest fan. I'm just saying in comedy, that's
the point, right, Like yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Like we have to be happy for each other, like
when A's opportunities that come up for him or for me,
like you know, because we have different we're also different
individual so sometimes he will get offer like you know,
maybe an opportunity here are we here? So and then
we have to do our own thing. And yeah, I
mean there's still that element like you can't be like
(40:47):
jealous or like not jealous, like you know, like you
try to be understanding and and but it's a yeah,
you have to kind of balance because it's good. It's
like at this point, like we're supporting. We're definitely very supportive,
and we give each other, you know, like kind of
notes like which turned into arguments sometimes because.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
I'm gonna say, yeah, do you take the notes constructive
criticism or do you do.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
They because sometimes you're like so commit to your your bit.
It's like, no, I'm not going to try this. No
that's not me. I don't say this.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
This is a bad idea, right, but the other person
wants you to like trust them, right yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
And then other people give you notes and you're like,
oh that is very insightful. So yeah, I think at
this at this point, like we're we're you know, in
similar path and so we we we're very grateful. We
can you know, we can support each other like we
can like he when I first started like getting gigs
(41:52):
like on like say in La or like other states,
like you'll come with me, which is great, amazing is
the thing I wanted to be able to like and
he enjoys calmedy, so you know, and I traveled to
support him vice versa. So but we do think that, like,
(42:13):
you know, we we have this is our own this
is our own journey and career, like right, so even
if you trying to help me, like, it's not like
he can help me. You know, they help you know,
it's still an individual performance.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
You of course, like you work very hard too, so
it's not like, oh, he's getting me or I'm getting him,
Like you both are very hard workers.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
So you're right, it's.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Just nice that like you guys have the same career
and then you're also helping each other because sometimes people
don't work out in the same industry because of the similarities.
There's too many similarities that I guess keep you apart,
which should what should keep you together?
Speaker 2 (42:49):
You know?
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Yeah we try to. Yeah, we understand. We want to
make the time, but who knows, like in terms of
like if things get busy, like you you know, we're
still work in progress like everything. That's why I think,
you know that the beauty of the this journey. I
don't want to use journey for like anyway, Like it's
(43:12):
the beauty of it. It's like the I'm not knowing.
I think that's what my friend I was talking to
my friend, like, yeah, we don't know how it's gonna go,
but I feel like, you know the process, I'm trying
to enjoy the process more because otherwise it's so you know,
you're beating yourself up so much like I've already been
through my Asian parents, you know, parenting process. And I
(43:38):
think it's important to be kind to yourself more. If
that's what I want to share with the audience is uh, yeah,
if we you don't be kind to yourself?
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Who go, No, you're right.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
You gotta be kind to yourself, no matter if you're
in a relationship or not. And yeah, and especially for comedy,
like preparing yourself be kind to yourself?
Speaker 2 (43:58):
How do you prepare for your sets? Before we wrap up,
let's let's talk about that.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
How do I prepare for my sets?
Speaker 2 (44:04):
I write jokes every day?
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Do you just stick to the set that you like
that you want to speak about?
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Like? What?
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Like how do you prepare? Do you like go in
front of the mirror? Like I don't know me? Do
you know?
Speaker 1 (44:15):
There's so many different ways I do it. Sometimes I
can't do it in my room. Some comics can do
it in the room by themselves or open mic. I
need to like have it in my head, memorize and
then just do it on stage, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Yeah, I have an idea about you know, maybe something
pissed me off or something I have strong opinions about.
Like recently, I'm like, I think you shouldn't karaoke and
eating karaoke hot pot is so popular in Hong Kong
because I went back and I think it shouldn't be allowed, like,
(44:47):
and then I just kind of developing like why because
like they always say the saddest song, And then I
was like, yeah, I'm all alone, and then I'm just
like in the corner eating chicken wings.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
And then like that's a great bit to start with
because it's because it's the reality of how sad it
is and why everybody can relate.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
You see, now you're telling me. I'm like, that's actually true.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
You can always like oh, then myself and then I
can ruin my appetite.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Literally the recipe for Bridget Jones number five, which they
just came out with Bridge Jones number four about a.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Boy that's so good you have to watch it.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
But yeah, it's like this recipe for like hurting yourself
and being depressed and lonely that's so funny.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
But then you're eating chicken wings like the best food
in the world.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Yeah. So but if you come out and see how show,
maybe we can you know, guess some chicken wings.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Out to Oh that will be amazing.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Yes, so tell us where can we go buy tickets?
May see to watch Women Uninterrupted and let them know
yes when, because guys, it's going to be sold out.
The last two shows were sold out, so you guys
gotta get your tickets right away.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
Yes, so you can buy tickets on Sing Mark's Comedy
Cup website, so literally sing Much Comedy Club google them
and the show is on March sixth door at eight.
The show starts at eight thirty. And I also still
have time to go get chicken wings.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
And you guys can follow Macy Where can they follow
you so they can get your tour dates and the
next comedy shows that you will be performing at Saint
Mark's as well.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Yes, so follow me on Instagram at Macy KK and
Macy double take.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Macy. You're the best. Thank you so much for coming on.
We loved having you.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
We love having you as a friend and a comedian,
a fella comedian, and you're amazing you're hilarious, You're beautiful,
and keep inspiring because really.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Your stuff is so real and so funny and so cool.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
This I encourage everyone to go see your comedy, like
you said, because you'll start with one thing that really
resonates with everyone, and you'll build that, and I think
it's really that's the real comedy you want to see,
not like just trying to hit a home run, just
to hit a home run of a joke.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
You know, thank you so much for having me. I
really enjoy chatting. I was actually like, oh my god,
I don't do podcasts often, so but then this is.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
So fun, such a privilege. You see, it's a conversation.
It was great, you have fun.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
You had fun.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
I'm back, and no, I wish you like you worked
so hard. I wish you all success. We keep we
keep pushing, well, keep pushing.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
We both have each other. We're both the next Tina
fan Amy Pola watch out.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
Hell yo, we are.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
Going to be hosting the Awards, mark my words, one
of these days, and you want to see both of
us more. We're going to have more collaborations, Macy and I.
We're going to do more sketches. So stay tuned for
us as well. You guys, thank you for tuning into
Chanel and the City.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
We love you, Thanks for listening. Thank you. Hi is
Maxy qwalk. You're listening to me at Chanel in the
City Podcast
All right, we're back on Chanelle in the City again.
We just had a little bit of a glitch problem,
but we're back. We're up and running. So Macy, yes,
we were just talking about comparisons. Talk to us a
little bit. So a lot of times, Right, there's younger,
there's hotter, there's cool or funny or popular, whatever you
want to talk about. I swear to god, I tell
Macy every day. I cry to her that it's like
(00:23):
high school. And I'm forty years old and I want
to be out of high school. I tried not to
be in high school for my whole life.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And then but like, so how do you high school?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
And then you were talking about like creating opportunities.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
And yeah, outside the box. So do you think that
you can make it?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Like if you don't perform at clubs all the time
our house shows or get accepted at clubs, Like, do
you have the potential to become a successful comedian even
if you're not younger or hotter?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yo? I think so, I mean I hope. So I
don't know. We need to keep you, like, bitch, what
about me?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
No, but you're younger than me.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I'm close, I'm closed. I I'm like I have. I'm
a human, so I feel like I'm all that like
jealousy comparisons, like we just you know, you just cry
and then you just like bitch to someone and I'm
the same. I'm just maybe I do more meditation. I'm like,
(01:22):
you know, I just go into like go do some
like punching, you know, like boxing. But I think, yeah,
I was talking about. Yeah, I was on this uh
like kind of self development journey and I I was
there was this guy who talked about like create your
own destiny because I really hit hard. Like I was like,
(01:46):
you know what, like there's no one one way to
feel successful or to feel like you're moving forward. And
and the way I you know, apply to calmedies like yeah,
like I mentioned, I don't know if we caught any
of what I what I was talking about. It's like,
you know, if it's not in a club setting, can
it be like in a coffee shop. We could do
(02:07):
a like bookshop, and it's like a vibe. Like sometimes
even people like that, right, like you know, other clubs,
like other shows, sometimes they're in the back of a
bodega and like uh, you know, Nike shop and.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Creating a vibe really about, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
So I think it's it's obviously you want the industry
to like to recognize, right, like you have that on
your bio. And but at the end of the day,
I think, I think create. If nobody give me opportunities,
I create my own opportunities, if you know, to to
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the extent that it's possible. But but which is just
why collaboration is so important. Like I feel like it's
not just comedy, right because I I come from this
corporate background, and you know, I feel like there's so
much barriers, uh, you know, in terms of women speaking
of and getting you know, breaking out. So I apply
(03:11):
everything from my corporate world to the comedy world in
a sense, like where I'm seeing I'm not doing in
my during the day asking for things like I try
to do it in the comedy side, which is for example,
you know, collaboration with other women are the producer of
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the shows. Which is why I started Women and Interrupted.
This is the flyer.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I love the flyer.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, why you started right the show which is a
very important show and it's part of Knockout Festival, which
is celebrating women focused shows.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
You know, so I love that talk. Yeah, why did
you start that?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah, well because I one more stage time for myself
and other women. That's that's that. And then I think
about also in this year, I want to create a
community around women empowerment, which is I think it's been
you know already. Women empowerment has been you know, kind
(04:14):
of going on from quite a few years, but I
feel like we still need to amplify it. Like that's
why I feel like I can still contribute. I wanted
to focus on like being self expressed, like that's my
I feel like my whole life has been like that's
a challenge, right, I have to, like you said, like
you don't see me like pissed off, like angry like
(04:36):
I of course I do. I'm a human, so so
maybe I'm just like you know, oh, you know, I
manage it and then like I but I do get
excited when I when i'm when I see you, So.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
That's maybe that's like you you're the only person I like.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
No, but that's why I said when we started having
our talks too, I think it's important like also like
getting together with your women friends who are collaborators and
talking to about things out loud, so that not dwelling
but talking about how to take a negative and change
it into a positive, Like you were really there for
me in general when like a lot of men weren't
giving me a chance.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Or I asked you like how should I go about
this and that?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
And you were there for me and you were like,
this is what I would do or this is how
I would approach it.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
And I really think you're doing so great, like you've
been opening for these big comedians, like you were like,
you're in the Hampton's, You're opening I big think you're
so far ahead, and I that's.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
The then't how come the clubs don't know?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
That's what I was gonna say, Well, why do you
think if somebody like you see somebody's ahead, why do
you think clubs are like very adamant of like I'm
not going to book her or she's a bit or
a lot of people say to me, I'm not ready.
But I've been doing comedy for ten years, so it's
like weird to say I'm not ready because I've done
all the open mics, I've done the barking, I've paid
the dues, you know how, We've took taken classes and
(05:53):
I produce shows for like the same show I've had
is this six years which we're going to see you
back on it when we returned to Westside Comedy Club
in May. But like, yay, you you know, and we've
done shows at Saint Mark's Comedy Club and we've had
such success. Like I guess, yeah, like what are your
tips to kind of move forward as a comedian. So
it is it's it's creating your own creating your own opportunities.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I think that would be my focus right now.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Social media. What about social media? You think that play
social media?
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah, it's huge. Yeah, that's like where I'm I need
to get more, you know, I need to do more
for sure. And I think I've heard so many success stories,
not even just comedy, like you know, I have friends
who are in you know, who are founders and rights
like businesses and restaurants so like, so using social media,
(06:45):
it's like how they they get to be known in
the industry. So so yeah, I feel like, let's just
get get working. And I think, you know, timing also
timing sometimes, you know, right, Like I think I love
that you just you're pushing and then create our own
collaboration in these community like all the C words.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
So so well, that's what's gonna ask you too.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
What do you think it takes for men in the
industry to want to book more women?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
I mean, well, yeah, that's why we do the that's
what women Uninterrupted and all these shows during the Knockout
Comedy Festival, it's like a whole week of just all
women's shows, right, just to show men like, hey, look,
you know we we we created. Like, I think there's
hundreds of shows that am a knockout and my show
(07:38):
is part of it. So obviously come to our show. Yeah,
and other shows.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
But isn't it a huge six You're right, Like, in
order for men to see us perform at their level
or be equal, you have to be able to go
and support these festivals and want to showcase your talent
on these festivals and not.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Take it for granted.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Like I feel so grateful that I was chosen to
be honored to be part of your show during this
festival because now I have the opportunity, or other comedians
have the opportunity to show that they're just as funny
or just as good or they can just express see
I never even think of it as a competition.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I think more of it as.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Like you do just to get your art out that
that week, your expression, what you went through in life.
Maybe somebody else can relate or feel less alone because
of it.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, I actually I think maybe the reason why I
feel so like, maybe I feel less, you know, disgruntle
about everything. I'm disgruntled by the way I am, and
I just feel like, but I did someone taught, like,
you know, maybe in a class I I the teacher
(08:44):
was like, oh, like, treat it show like. You know,
it's an honor to be able to perform in front
of an audience like like, just treated show like. It's
a gift to the performer as well to be able
to even like if in audiences like like small sized
audience or big size you know, to theaters six hundred people, like,
(09:07):
it's still an honor to perform in front of you know,
fo to give you time to like watch, you know,
I maybe it's a little bit limiting belief, but at
the same time, I'm just like, Okay, I'm grateful, like
I can, I can do this, and that's what helped
me not be to you know, feel like to you know,
(09:31):
like the progress like measurement, like oh my progressing fashion,
and I definitely feel yeah, I'm complaining to my mom
alt I'm just like, ah, I don't know what I'm.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Doing, Like, yeah, how did she feel and how does
she feel it?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
She must be proud of you that you have an
amazing because you have a good day job. And we'll
talk about how comedians I always tell people like, you
can't make a living off comedy, even though you want to,
even if you're the best of the best, because it
just doesn't pay well, you know, to pay your bills.
So like, how do you manage the daytime job and comedy?
And is she proud of you? Or does she feel
like worried for you? Like my parents they're like, what
(10:05):
are you doing with your life? You're not even funny.
This is what my parents say. You're not even funny?
How you and you know, with me, I'm just so passionate,
like I'm just that's what I think will make you
also successful if you're like, I don't care what people say,
I'm going to do it anyway. It's because you know what,
comedy keeps me off drugs and the streets.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
I feel like I'm a gangster and meanwhile, I'm this
white Jewish girl.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
No, But but for me, I'm like I want that Hi,
So I rather chase that high, even if it's at
a bar or six in front of six people, I
don't care, Like what's the goal?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
You know, what's the goal out of comedy?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
That's really well, your energy is so like the way
you're so dedicated to comedy, Like I really think that's
the attitude that will really carry us through, right, Like
that's the.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Yeah, that's a drive and my mom, yeah you talk
about Actually I went back to Austria in December two
months ago and I did a couple of shows and
she came out to all the shows, which is obviously
she did not understand. She doesn't even understand the set,
but she was filming.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Like it wasn't have been so proud just to see
you on stage, you know, a little shy macy to
like this beautiful blossom, like a confident woman really speaking
her mind, which, by the way, is not so normal
in the Chinese culture, right, It's not like the most
meaning isn't that different? Like being from another culture that
(11:33):
is a little bit more submissive, And now you're out
there and you're saying like I'm doing this for myself
and how does that feel for her?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Yeah, I mean yeah, like she was just like didn't
understand anything. She was in the audience, and then the
host was making fun of her because she was like
filming everything and like other people said, they were what
are you doing? Well, this is a woman, but she's
coming from like, you know, a place of support, and
like I think she does finally understand why I don't
(12:02):
really call her that much because you know, well, like
I'm always you know, nighttime, I'm trying to do comedy
or if I'm not performing, I want to go to
the shows like I so I consume myself in this world.
And then so that's why she I think she finally
understand why I don't call her as much because like
of the time difference, like at nighttime is her daytime.
(12:25):
And then but I'll be in the club, like I'll
be you know, hustling, you know, trying to do this.
So but at least she she understands my passion, which
she appreciated, and then she was like, oh, you know,
she was like, oh maybe I should spend more time
thinking about like you don't have kids and like this
and this like you know, running out of time blah
blah blah. But like but now after she saw me
(12:48):
on stage, I feel like she was like, oh, I
fine whatever, Like you're not fine, aget, like's not funny,
you're wasting a time, you don't make money from it,
but fine, like at least.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
At least it makes you happy.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
At least it makes you happy or like, yeah, I
think it like like you know, at least somewhere like
doing drugs.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Like you said, right, it keeps me off all like
it it stops me from being a stirper and a prostitute.
Nothing wrong with that, by the way, nothing wrong with
that either. Like, but you're right, Like, once they see
you in the element, same with my parents, I think
then they realize, oh, it's not all about money or success.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Like they feel happy, you know, they're.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Like doing something that's important or helping other people, you know,
because the truth is, when we get up on stage,
we're putting ourselves out there in a vulnerable situation to
help people feel less alone or better about their lives
that day.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
And that's not easy, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah, so I think it's yeah, humbling. It seemed like
I said, like, I just appreciate each time I get
to perform right, like and then I feel like this.
You know, I've been doing comedy for a few years,
so I you know, I don't want to focus on
you know, being able to not so scripted, like I
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want to do them more crow work and while like
connecting with the audience like and find more you know,
authenticity in my performance. So but yeah, no, I just
think that it's it's tough. But but I feel like,
like you said, we just show people like if we
can do it, like you know, we're putting ourselves on
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stage at risk, and they should they should laugh, and
they should come support our shows.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
They should support your show for sure.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
And here's the other thing I love about you is
that there's never any like shortcuts with you.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
You know, I think that you're very good.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
When I need inspiration, I come to you and I'll
have a talk with you or we'll do a sketch together,
and I feel like, you know, you always teach me,
like there is no shortcuts, Like you have to be grateful.
You have to love what you do. There's no like race,
you know, And so that's what I think, that's what's important,
Like you have to like love the art because I'm
always like, what do I do? I feel this way,
(14:56):
I feel that way, and you're very like, you know,
just keep writing the jokes, keep wanting to do it,
keep loving to do it. Okay, you get rejected from
this place, you just go to another place. I mean,
how hard was the transition for you coming from Australia
and being from Hong Kong and then coming to New
York because it's such different, you know, also social like
how did you feel?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Did you feel like alone? Did you feel like it
was hard?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I feel like I feel like I wish I came
here like you know, earlier, because I I just feel
like people in New York are so ambitious and in
Australia I was more like kind of going with a flow.
Everything is good, like the weather's good. I on the weekends,
(15:42):
we just like go for a long walk, like on
the beach, Like the beach Bondi beach is like fifteen
minutes from the city. Like in New York, you go,
you just spend an hour on a train to go
to like walk away, like and it's not even good.
It shouldn't be even good.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
It's not even good.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
And I love Australia because I studied there too for you,
and it's like Bondai Beach is like the most How
do you think comedy is there compared to here?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Comedy? I didn't even know comedy existed in really, I
just saw I was watching a lot of comedy on
TV in when I was in Australia, and I only
see like obviously men or Australians, right, like white Australians,
and they talk about politics and everyone in there, so
they I feel like I didn't see it was possible
for me as a woman and also Asian. So I
(16:31):
just didn't know. That's why I appreciate like all these
you know, like Ali wall is so successful, like it's
really does create a you know, vision, like it's allowed
other people to see it's possible for them, and I
really I think that's that's really the truth. And after
I moved here, I think I just see this so
many I went to so many shows, Like when I
(16:55):
moved here, I was going to bar shows to support
other people, and I still didn't see it possible for myself.
I was like, oh my god, that's so scary, like
you know, but then I just started easy, like I
obviously like I took baby steps like I did classes
and then I just keep pushing, you know. And I
in twenty nineteen, I started my open mic sig Mark's
(17:16):
Comedy Club, and I did it once a week at
the mic and I and then I remember, I will
get people sign up to my mic, and a lot
of most of them are young guys. Yeah. They always
been like me, see, I need to go out early
on your mic big, And then I never asked them
(17:37):
like I'm like, you know, okay, okay, I understand. So
then I'll do the lineup and they you know, and
then they will leave. They'll leave after they finished their
set right because why It's because they have other mics
to go to, right, because I hit like ten my
and then I compared to me, I was like, no,
I'm done, like one mic, I'm done. And I had
(17:59):
this misconception that when you go to do a different MiG,
you need like a new set. And to my, to my,
I'm like, I only have one set that I you know,
I'm not going to do more because you know, other
people are going to think, you know, I have you know,
why am I repeating? So I didn't understand that concept
until obviously later on. And what I'm trying to say,
(18:21):
is like, oh my god. Like guys was like they
will do like ten ten likes that they will go
and they will ask. They were like can I go up?
And for me, I'll just sit there and wait for
my turn or like often times. But then I that's
like the comparison, Like when I was in Sydney in Australia,
I think I was more like, hey, you know, everyone's chill,
just chill, just like, don't you know.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Look that attitude, right, and you adapted that attitude here,
which which can serve you and help you. But then
there's the assertiveness of New Yorkers like right, like what
we talked about earlier in the conversation, when can you
stand up for yourself? And when can you ask and
not be too much? Where people enjoy working with you,
They enjoy you being funny, they see your overall like value.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
What other think. What I learned is like if you
don't ask, you don't.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Get Yeah, one hundred percent. That's what I've learned too.
That's why we have we bond a lot. You and
I have a like very similar work ethic and mentality,
so we stick together, which is nice because you need
someone that you can really trust and build that with
and know that, like I know my partner is gonna,
you know, uh do something, and like I know that
(19:29):
if I did a show with you, co produce a
show with you, it would be fifty to fifty, you know,
things like that, Like and that's why I stopped doing
open mics because a lot of the open mics I
did enough. And it is the beauty of open mics
is there's a way that you memorize your jokes and
it's repetition, right, And there's a beauty in repeating and
being prepared, and you have a joke after joke after
joke for the audience. But I come from also the
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school of like when I worked with Cedric Dan entertainer
and George Lopez, they didn't come from that. They came
from storytelling and crowd work. And sometimes the joke leads
to the authenticity of in the moment, and I like
to do that as an entertainer because it's real, it's
real time, it's not acting. So I think a lot
of times we'd create our own rules when it comes
to comedy. But there is a beauty in like repeating
(20:12):
and having a perfect set you know, you know, I
feel that the open MIC's prepared you? Or do you
feel like you practice on regular shows? Like, because right
now your set is pretty much you guys have to
check out Macy said, By the way, she's at State
Marks every night, literally every night.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
So you could check it out.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
But and then plus the show that she created, which
is Women Uninterrupted, I'll be on that show too, and
we have a lot of great women on that lineup.
I think, like, yeah, do you feel like it prepared
you or do you feel like you prepare you?
Speaker 2 (20:44):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Like, I think open MIC's helpful. Two if you want
to try new materials, okay, okay, but but you definitely
would fee like the people in the open mind might
be not really listening. So again it's like a little
(21:06):
bit yeah, Like it really depends. And I I think
doing shows like I for myself because I feel like
I didn't come from like performing background, so it took
me a long time to feel comfortable on stage in
terms of like being able to be myself. Obviously, like
(21:27):
I when I first started, I still pushed myself to
do my set. But that's more like, oh, I wrote this,
and so here's joke number one, joke number two. Now
you know, I feel like being more like have you know,
timingly done it for a few years, Like I'm trying
to be more myself on stage. That's I want to
be able to see my personality, like I want to
(21:49):
be able to know my struggles and like how I
you know, I'm also you know, disgruntle pissed about certain
things too, so you know, and then you know, it's
my point of view. I think, yeah, any stage charm
is good stage time. I also learned like we should
never turn down stage time. So but they open my
sometimes it's hard to make time for because that you know,
(22:12):
I finished work and then I'm you know, sometimes I
just don't have that energy to do so much. But
I still think any stage charm is good for for me.
But yeah, open my can be sometimes like confronting because
maybe maybe the other comics they're not really listening. Then
(22:32):
you're like, oh, I'll rewrite the job off because like
nobody reacted. But uh yeah, so so that's you know,
I think with your attitude, like you're positive, like you're positive,
you just you're you know, I like a personality because
you know you you you just share it with the world,
like how I love.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
You love to share my overbear.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
The best is when I see you laugh really genuinely
in the back. I'm like, oh shit, if I made
may see laugh, that means this was funny. Like there's
times where, like you know, some of your fellow comics,
they're not as supportive, and I understand, but it's not personal.
Sometimes they're not paying attention. They're in like they're reading
their set. One thing I appreciate about you is like
you really give me the honest feedback. You're like, no,
(23:17):
you know, like, okay, maybe all your jokes doesn't hit
all the time, but you're funny, Like you always assure
me like, okay, I see from the outside as your friend,
as your colleague, and.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
I'm telling you you have potential.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
So same thing with me, and you like you need
to mirror that sometimes to really feel confident, because, like.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
You said, we're human beings. We're not always going to
be like yeah, I'm amazing. Hey, you know, that's just
human nature.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Even the most popular comedian, Nicky Glazer, said it on
her podcast. She's like, you know, how many days I
wake up and I hate myself? Like people think I
have it all together, and I'm like, oh, I wish
I can do this.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
So yeah, well we're work in progress, right, Like it's
everything because that's every day. I think we just like
target like improving certain things. We're doing something to improve,
and I think that's it, Like the thing, it's okay
to feel frustrated and angry. I think finding people that
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feel your vibe, and that's important.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
It's so important because I love how you're not about
like even though you're a business woman, and like even
though Danny and Alex they're businessmen, you guys are very
good at like still being genuine about It's not always
about popularity or like the most coolest show to you guys,
It's about, Okay, how can we be innovative and creative together,
(24:37):
how can we give this person a chance and that
person a chance? Like there's like a lot of good
equal opportunity, which is why I love Saint Mark's because
you provide this like speak easy, cool vibe, but then
this really behind the scenes equal opportunity that most people
should follow, you know, like you can't give every comic
every day a chance that we get, but that's the
fact that you have people that you trust and you
(24:58):
respect in rotation, that's important.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Like yeah, also diversity too, except what we focus on diversity.
We want you know, I have on a lineup. We
want different, right, like we want you know, different nationalities, race, Yeah,
different perspective like it can be.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Yeah, I'm the background, rich poor No oh no, I'm kidding,
but yeah, you're very good with diversity and inclusion, which.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Is that's how I would want to see a show
like if I if it's like, uh, you know, seven people,
seven people, lin know, I wanted to see different you know.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
But it's so interesting because comedy, I don't know if
you read this. There was a book on I forget
the name, but I'll get it for you. Basically how
comedy used to be predominantly a white rich culture, meaning
what did that mean? White people who were like born
to artists families who we had a lot of money.
They would pretend like they were the like the broke
people doing comedy every night, But realistically, you can't do
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comedy every night if you don't.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Have a job to pay your bills.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Like some comedians we know are like, you know, working
two to three jobs. There's some people that work as
a waiter at the comedy club, and then they also
do you know comedy that's the real hustle.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
But that's not realistic.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
So it's interesting how much it progressed over time, which
it's with diversity, Like I guess what do you think
we need to see the change? Like what do you
think we need in the comedy world to get even better?
Like yeah, I think yeah, not all white, not that
I love white people too, not that it's all like
one race. You know, it should be different races. That's
(26:37):
the truth, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
I want to focus online what will make the show better?
Like right, that's really that's just the you know, I
want people to come in and just like forget about
the personal life for a second, just like be with
you know us, like be with the everyone in that
same show. I feel like we are all in the
(26:58):
same team, right everyone if they laugh, you know, one
person laugh is laughter is contagious, Like you find something
funny than the whole room. Like sometimes you know, some
some jokes are so good, like the whole room laughed
and the whole room shakes, Like it's just like such
a great feelings. I just want to that like sometimes
obviously it's you know, it's show by show is so different.
(27:22):
But that's what I'm focusing on, is like, hey, how
can we make the show better? Like it's it's it's
just so amazing, like its show ends, like you feel like,
oh my god. Like people if people have a great.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Time high, it's a natural high.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Well that's like, why do you think people have such
a hard time thinking women are funny?
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Like what do you think it is?
Speaker 1 (27:49):
Like do you think it's a woman man thing or
do you just think in general it's hard to be
a comedian.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Well, definitely, like from culturally, I think, like you said,
that's just the stigma around women not funny.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, And you know, back in the.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Days, I feel like those material that men, you know,
men did was like oh, you know their wife giving
birth and now they're dad and I know the change
of diver it's like, you know, it's so if you
know they like those stuff and women we don't. We
don't just do those like traditional whatever same thing. Like
(28:27):
we we are very we We are very interesting people too.
We have jobs. We we you know, coachro our moms
you know, you know, beat us all my abuse, Like
we have those stories to share too, so I feel
like it's a yeah, the environment right, like now, there's
definitely with Knockout Comedy Festival, All Women Festival, like it
(28:51):
just creates more awareness, like hey, you know, look at
these women, they're funny too. I think it just takes
some you know, time, but I think right now it's
a sweet spot for women in comedy. Look look at
how many successful comedian like you know, blowing up on
social media TikTok and every day, right every day?
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Is there anyone that you well, we just we know
that you opened up for jos and Chia, which was
huge in Australia.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
How did how was that? And like, do you have
any women female comedian.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Role models that you want to aspire to that you
feel like, I want that career kind of you know.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Yeah Johnson definitely, yeah, you know, just being able to
perform with her when I was in Hong Kong that
was a great experience. I think. Let me think definitely
like superstars like Ali Wonga. You know how how far
she's gone, like and she's like so so funny and
(29:50):
a list celebrity. That's just like such a great inspiration.
I think. Yeah, locally, who do you like give me.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Some I love I mean, I love Ali Wong. I
think she's You're right, She's definitely an inspiration. And I
think I think Amy Schumer is one of my favorites,
maybe because I could relate to her a lot, like
coming from like Jewish descent, but she also had to
make it in such a male dominant at the time,
even worse because there wasn't as much social media during
her time, so she had to like rely on like
(30:19):
really putting out the jokes out there and whether people
like laughed or not. But like, she's very funny. Like
I think Kristin Wig is one of my favorites. You know,
she's improv but she does stand up too, and I
think she's like she has like a lot of authentic humor,
you know. I like when somebody's like within themselves and like,
you know, Bonnie McFarlane is another good one.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
He's good too because she's it's.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, it's about being sorry, bless me, thank you, It's
about being thinking. It's about being authentic to me, you know,
and really like you are that person on stage that
you're off stage, because a lot of times with actors
or comedians like you are one way and then you're
not You're another way. And to me, I feel like
you should be always a good person, you know, yes.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
A good person, you know what I mean, but trying
to make people laugh, but.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Also being that positive off stage and genuine and helpful
off stage too, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Sometimes I feel like in New York, particularly people running
from spots to spots, right like thingish one show, then
there's like you just have time to you don't really
have the time to connect because they're just running from
one place to another. So yeah, I don't take that
as you know, they don't want to talk to me,
just like okay, but yeah, I agree, like it takes
(31:36):
time to build a relationships, and I just I just
think it's yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
And even if your circle small like ours, like I'm
very grateful that I have you and my circle, Like
I might have four or five closest friends and that's
all you need. Sometimes you need only one to just
rely on and each other always book each other. I
think that's very important. If you think like I told you,
I said, I think my friends are really funny. I
might just book you and all my shows because I
(32:03):
just I love you. I think you're funny.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
So why not.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Why would I give it to somebody else that doesn't
appreciate it. You know, yeah, Macey's gonna be on every
show of mine.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
But even you know, like I feel like you've gone
to back.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
You fought for me, Like there's ways to fight for
your friends in a professional, relaxed manner.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Why do I know that? Because you're an example, Like
I feel like you're.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Always giving me the benefit of doubt and like you're
trying to at least say, hey, guys, look at Chanel.
I'm telling you don't miss out on what she's doing.
You know, like you always bring light, and same with me.
I always bring light to people, like, Okay, Macey's gonna
be on my shows, and I'm gonna have Macey open
up for me if I do another headliner show. You know,
you got to think of your friends. That's that's my advice.
You got to come up with your friends. You got
(32:46):
to come up with the people who really support you.
That's the only way I can deal with the rejection.
I don't know how you.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
No, I think the saying like, because I feel like
when you go through something like like say rejection, which
is every day, like oh he's just like like, but
I think I think, you know, talking to sometimes I'm
talking to like non comedian friends. They don't really like
(33:14):
have they don't really have that ego, right, so they
just like sit there and be like, hey, okay, that's
what happened, and you know, grow up and just like
so maybe talk to non comedian friends. I don't know, but.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
That's what wasn't asked you like for mental health tips?
Do you have any mental health tips that you work
on every day for yourself and like to share with
the audience, Like you know, when people are angry or
jealous or like, what are things that you do to
like push through those barriers?
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Yeah, I I think it's important to yeah, try not
to like focus on one thing if that thing is stuck.
Like if I say, for example, I'm not you know,
I got rejected, Like say I've had submit to some
fastball and then they're like, no, not this year. Maybe
you know, don't come back. Like you know, people are like, oh,
(34:04):
I want to see if I can get men like that,
Oh no, you don't have this, you don't have this
this like ah, and then I'll be like but then
I just focus on like you know, maybe break down
the steps like if, but I think it's important to
find out like why why not now? So maybe I
don't have you know, one hour for example, then okay,
(34:26):
we'll break it down. I'm like, you know, when when
would I have my thirty minutes right? And then you
grow like thirty minutes, thirty five, forty, so you kind
of hit those targets. But in the meantime, yeah, just
go like relax, Like I like eating. I like eating.
(34:47):
I like Japanese food.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
This brings us certain next question, you love eating? So
do we chanel the city?
Speaker 1 (34:52):
What is a good Japanese place for Chinese restaurant to
recommend us in the city?
Speaker 2 (34:57):
That's like really good? Maybe I don't know, you.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Know, across the street from Saint Mark's comedy, which is
We're on eighth Street. Yeah, across the street there's a
Chinese restaurant called Chile c Che and then l I,
oh my god, they have best somepling and like and
we love so like we we did like a Lunai
show a week ago with a bunch of Asian comedians
(35:23):
and after the show we went I love it. Yes,
it was so fantastic. So if anyone come to see
our show March six. Yes, maybe we can hang out
after and we can go to Chile. Oh, we can
go to like Happy you know there's another Irish bar
across the street. Can, Yeah, we can.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
I would love to do you a good Chinese place.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
And also Saint Mark's has really good vegan like you
guys have really good bites like the French fries and
then banadas. The vegan and bananas are amazing. So you
guys can order that March six. You better be drinking
with us, you better be ordering us. May see, you've
been such an amazing guest. Going to have you back
on the podcast. Let everybody know where they can follow you.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Follow me on Instagram. I need more followers at MA
c kk m A c y kk. That's me and
I post on threads and I need to do more
TikTok and more reals. But like just like reach out
to me on Instagram, like if you have any yeah,
if you want to follow me and come to my shows.
(36:26):
And we also have a diverse lineup on our show
on March sixth I was mentioning it, but yeah's doing
the show, you know obviously the amazing Chanel Murray on
the show yeah, you gotta see her shine. And then
we also have KICKI Young. She also my fellow Hong
Kong comedians. She's based in LA, so it's a treat
(36:49):
to have her show. It's coming all the way from
LA to New York. And we have Katie Blunt.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
I love Katie, like yeah, very.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Works so hard and very funny and very unique. She's
a psychic, did you guys know, Like she might do
a little reading who knows, who knows Scheffani Davi And
she's like everywhere she's touring. So we have probably some
special job ins too. You never know.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
I'm gonna wow, that's gonna be fascinating. Also, that's another
thing we want to talk about, like date night. If
you guys, are you know, going on your first second date?
You know, this is a great show to come to
and take your significant other. And I wanted to ask
you the audience has questions for you about dating before
we wrap up, Masie, what's your tip on dating in
New York City since it's such a hard thing to
(37:38):
do and what's the Sorry, let's go for the first answer,
then the second question because it's a little overwhelming when
we talk about dating.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Oh yeah, what's my tip? I mean, I felt so
much like when I first moved here, I got ghosted
so much, and I'm like, oh my god, this is like,
you know, like I always feel like each day seems
like go really well, and then in the back of
my head like this can be the last time I see.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
I know they're like, I love you, I want to
have your babies. Then all of a sudden they're like,
I answer you changing their number. I'm like, fuck you,
motherfucker meet me in the back parking lot.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (38:15):
The stories is horrific, and like back in the day,
it's like there's no this Facebook group called are we
Dating the Same Guy? So like you can cross check her.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
About this what is this situation? Because a lot of
comedians are like on this.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Meanwhile the guy comedians are still getting spots and then
the girl will be like screwed over and she's not
allowed back in the club.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Oh my god, scandal. Well I I yeah, this is
a group where you you know, you can check like
if you mention with someone, like you want to check
if someone's already messing with the same guy.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
It's amazing though.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
But it's like, yeah, it's like I didn't have those
like tools, you know whatever nine years ago I moved here.
So but tips is like, yeah, no, I think focusing
on our own thing first, pie. You know, it's because
I found comedy, so I'm always going to prioritize comedy.
So so that that's just you know, and now I'm
(39:13):
in a relationship, but which is nice because you know,
Daddy's also a comedian.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
You're a great guy. Yes, he's an amazing guy. And
he's an amazing comedian, an amazing partner.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Like that's what I was always telling you, Like, yeah,
you have like these couple goals that are inspirational because
it's not always easy.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
I was gonna ask you, it's not always.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Easy to date in your industry, right, Like a lot
of people tell me Chanell, don't shoot where you eat.
But then I see you and Danny and you guys
make it work very well. It's like a mature relationship,
Like tell talk to me about like do you think
obviously the person you date should support your career and
if they don't support your career or help you, yeah,
like you and Danny help each other like be better.
(39:49):
So it's not about like using each other to get
to the top. It's about helping each other because you
like that person, you want that person to succeed, you
believe in that person. That's what I used to fight
with my ex all the time. It's like, no, I'm
not using your not using me. I just we want
to help each other because we like each other. But
if you don't want to help me, it makes me
feel like bad because it makes me feel like you
don't like me. How important do you think it is
(40:09):
that Danny supports you and you support him?
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Like is that a major factor?
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Like sometimes yeah, I'm like you know, now, I'm thinking
we have.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
To be your biggest fan, right and you have to
be his biggest fan. I'm just saying in comedy, that's
the point, right, Like yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
Like we have to be happy for each other, like
when A's opportunities that come up for him or for me,
like you know, because we have different we're also different
individual so sometimes he will get offer like you know,
maybe an opportunity here are we here? So and then
we have to do our own thing. And yeah, I
mean there's still that element like you can't be like
(40:47):
jealous or like not jealous, like you know, like you
try to be understanding and and but it's a yeah,
you have to kind of balance because it's good. It's
like at this point, like we're supporting. We're definitely very supportive,
and we give each other, you know, like kind of
notes like which turned into arguments sometimes because.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
I'm gonna say, yeah, do you take the notes constructive
criticism or do you do.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
They because sometimes you're like so commit to your your bit.
It's like, no, I'm not going to try this. No
that's not me. I don't say this.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
This is a bad idea, right, but the other person
wants you to like trust them, right yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
And then other people give you notes and you're like,
oh that is very insightful. So yeah, I think at
this at this point, like we're we're you know, in
similar path and so we we we're very grateful. We
can you know, we can support each other like we
can like he when I first started like getting gigs
(41:52):
like on like say in La or like other states,
like you'll come with me, which is great, amazing is
the thing I wanted to be able to like and
he enjoys calmedy, so you know, and I traveled to
support him vice versa. So but we do think that, like,
(42:13):
you know, we we have this is our own this
is our own journey and career, like right, so even
if you trying to help me, like, it's not like
he can help me. You know, they help you know,
it's still an individual performance.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
You of course, like you work very hard too, so
it's not like, oh, he's getting me or I'm getting him,
Like you both are very hard workers.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
So you're right, it's.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Just nice that like you guys have the same career
and then you're also helping each other because sometimes people
don't work out in the same industry because of the similarities.
There's too many similarities that I guess keep you apart,
which should what should keep you together?
Speaker 2 (42:49):
You know?
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Yeah we try to. Yeah, we understand. We want to
make the time, but who knows, like in terms of
like if things get busy, like you you know, we're
still work in progress like everything. That's why I think,
you know that the beauty of the this journey. I
don't want to use journey for like anyway, Like it's
(43:12):
the beauty of it. It's like the I'm not knowing.
I think that's what my friend I was talking to
my friend, like, yeah, we don't know how it's gonna go,
but I feel like, you know the process, I'm trying
to enjoy the process more because otherwise it's so you know,
you're beating yourself up so much like I've already been
through my Asian parents, you know, parenting process. And I
(43:38):
think it's important to be kind to yourself more. If
that's what I want to share with the audience is uh, yeah,
if we you don't be kind to yourself?
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Who go, No, you're right.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
You gotta be kind to yourself, no matter if you're
in a relationship or not. And yeah, and especially for comedy,
like preparing yourself be kind to yourself?
Speaker 2 (43:58):
How do you prepare for your sets? Before we wrap up,
let's let's talk about that.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
How do I prepare for my sets?
Speaker 2 (44:04):
I write jokes every day?
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Do you just stick to the set that you like
that you want to speak about?
Speaker 3 (44:09):
Like? What?
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Like how do you prepare? Do you like go in
front of the mirror? Like I don't know me? Do
you know?
Speaker 1 (44:15):
There's so many different ways I do it. Sometimes I
can't do it in my room. Some comics can do
it in the room by themselves or open mic. I
need to like have it in my head, memorize and
then just do it on stage, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Yeah, I have an idea about you know, maybe something
pissed me off or something I have strong opinions about.
Like recently, I'm like, I think you shouldn't karaoke and
eating karaoke hot pot is so popular in Hong Kong
because I went back and I think it shouldn't be allowed, like,
(44:47):
and then I just kind of developing like why because
like they always say the saddest song, And then I
was like, yeah, I'm all alone, and then I'm just
like in the corner eating chicken wings.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
And then like that's a great bit to start with
because it's because it's the reality of how sad it
is and why everybody can relate.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
You see, now you're telling me. I'm like, that's actually true.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
You can always like oh, then myself and then I
can ruin my appetite.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
Literally the recipe for Bridget Jones number five, which they
just came out with Bridge Jones number four about a.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Boy that's so good you have to watch it.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
But yeah, it's like this recipe for like hurting yourself
and being depressed and lonely that's so funny.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
But then you're eating chicken wings like the best food
in the world.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Yeah. So but if you come out and see how show,
maybe we can you know, guess some chicken wings.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Out to Oh that will be amazing.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Yes, so tell us where can we go buy tickets?
May see to watch Women Uninterrupted and let them know
yes when, because guys, it's going to be sold out.
The last two shows were sold out, so you guys
gotta get your tickets right away.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
Yes, so you can buy tickets on Sing Mark's Comedy
Cup website, so literally sing Much Comedy Club google them
and the show is on March sixth door at eight.
The show starts at eight thirty. And I also still
have time to go get chicken wings.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
And you guys can follow Macy Where can they follow
you so they can get your tour dates and the
next comedy shows that you will be performing at Saint
Mark's as well.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Yes, so follow me on Instagram at Macy KK and
Macy double take.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Macy. You're the best. Thank you so much for coming on.
We loved having you.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
We love having you as a friend and a comedian,
a fella comedian, and you're amazing you're hilarious, You're beautiful,
and keep inspiring because really.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
Your stuff is so real and so funny and so cool.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
This I encourage everyone to go see your comedy, like
you said, because you'll start with one thing that really
resonates with everyone, and you'll build that, and I think
it's really that's the real comedy you want to see,
not like just trying to hit a home run, just
to hit a home run of a joke.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
You know, thank you so much for having me. I
really enjoy chatting. I was actually like, oh my god,
I don't do podcasts often, so but then this is.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
So fun, such a privilege. You see, it's a conversation.
It was great, you have fun.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
You had fun.
Speaker 3 (47:09):
I'm back, and no, I wish you like you worked
so hard. I wish you all success. We keep we
keep pushing, well, keep pushing.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
We both have each other. We're both the next Tina
fan Amy Pola watch out.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
Hell yo, we are.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
Going to be hosting the Awards, mark my words, one
of these days, and you want to see both of
us more. We're going to have more collaborations, Macy and I.
We're going to do more sketches. So stay tuned for
us as well. You guys, thank you for tuning into
Chanel and the City.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
We love you, Thanks for listening. Thank you. Hi is
Maxy qwalk. You're listening to me at Chanel in the
City Podcast
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