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2024 has been a very prophetic year,
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and especially for Jonathan Cahn.
Rabbi Jonathan Cahn has made some very profound
prophetic messages this year,
everything regarding political events
to cultural shifts in our nation.
And we are gonna look back
at some of these momentous moments, occasions,
and these words that Rabbi has given throughout this year.
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And with me is Dr. Malachi O'Brien,
who was at one of these locations
when one of these very profound prophetic words was given.
So Dr. Malachi, it's great to always have you with us.
I'm honored to be a guest with you on this,
and it's exciting to have this conversation
because of the person that we're highlighting
and the words that we're looking back on.
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Yeah, we love Rabbi Jonathan Cahn,
and actually his book right here,
The Dragon's Prophecy, which came out this year,
hit number one on the New York Times bestseller list,
which is a really a testimony
of God's goodness and faithfulness,
but also it shows that there is such an interest
in the prophetic world around us.
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And Rabbi is so good at seeing the things
that through the lens of the Holy Spirit
and what God is highlighting,
and then helping us understand
what is really going on in our physical world,
but what's happening spiritually.
What's your takeaways from Rabbi's words?
Well, obviously, I think what you just said is paramount,
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that it's not just that the people,
I think that they're prophetic people
that have a pure word,
because we know there's prophets out for their own gain,
but Rabbi Jonathan, he brings,
I would say a challenging word every time.
A challenging word.
I mean, I go back to, I mean,
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when he was at the Washington Mall this year
and the prophetic act that happened there,
I go back to what happened right before the election.
And it takes us, it takes prophetic people to hear from God,
but it takes us to listen to the prophets,
to hear what they're saying,
and to test those words carefully against scripture,
and then be ready to receive what the Lord does.
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Yeah.
And one of the big things that he talked about this year
was the election of Donald Trump versus Kamala Harris,
who originally was gonna be Joe Biden.
But obviously we know that Kamala Harris stepped in
because Joe Biden dropped out,
which is really unprecedented in American history.
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But Rabbi had some very interesting reactions to this,
to what happened.
And so I wanna play a little bit of a clip
from one of his messages
so that we can then comment about this.
The answer is not ultimately an election,
but what happens through it.
It was three months ago in August
that I suddenly felt the leading
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to give a word for Donald Trump.
At the same moment, I felt that.
I got an email from an old friend who rarely writes
who said, I was in prayer,
and I received a strong sense
that you are to give a word for Donald Trump.
And then in October, just about a month, two months after,
I was invited to attend and be one of the speakers
at the inaugural faith summit in Atlanta, Georgia,
with Donald Trump and faith leaders of America.
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It happened one week before the election.
The president was there.
We met for the first time.
We prayed over him.
I gave a prophetic word at the event
that I believe is for this hour, for this very moment.
When I gave the word,
a man who is on the president's faith advisory board
and who was in the audience said,
the Lord told him at that moment,
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as they announced me, get out your phone,
what is about to be said, you have to record it.
So he took out his phone,
recorded it from the audience far back.
The next morning, he put it on the web
and it went viral.
You Malachi are actually the guy that took,
the Holy Spirit said, record this,
what is about to be said.
President, I speak of the mystery of your life.
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You were born on June 14th, 1946.
From ages past, it was appointed that on that day,
a scripture would be recited throughout the world.
The scripture that was appointed for the day of your birth
spoke of the bringing of God's vessel,
a trumpet into the world.
But tell me about this specific word
and this environment where this word was given.
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Yeah, this was the largest gathering of faith leaders
prior to the election.
There were 3,200 people there in the Atlanta area.
And I just remember vividly
when they announced Rabbi Jonathan Cahn,
I was standing in the back near the green room.
One of my responsibilities on that day
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as part of the National Faith Advisory Board
was to get certain leaders to and from the green room area.
And as soon as they announced his name,
it was like the Holy Spirit said,
grab your phone, record now.
So I immediately pulled out my phone
and just recorded from the corner back of that auditorium.
And it was like, it was like lightning in a bottle.
It was like, it was thunderous in that it was one,
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it was miraculous that Jonathan Cahn was even there
and even able to speak.
Like a week earlier, he was not on the docket
to be one of the people speaking.
And so it was unprecedented,
the way in which the Lord orchestrated that,
for him to speak that word over the president
for that moment.
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And obviously it went viral because it resonated.
And he talked about the spirit of Jehu.
God called you to walk according to the template.
He called you according to the template of Jehu,
the warrior king.
He called Jehu to make his nation great again.
And now I've heard several people reference that.
And so again, it just is affirmation to me
of what the Lord is doing in this hour.
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One, the word he had, but two,
even to get to a place where he gave that word.
And side note, John, since that time,
Jonathan Cahn and I have become friends since that time.
And it's been fun to get to know him
and just really believe what the Lord's hand is on him.
Amen, amen.
Well, from this same video that Rabbi put out,
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I want to play this portion of it
and we'll comment about it as well.
This election is not the end of the story.
It's the beginning, but we have to seize the moment.
Pray that Donald Trump would fulfill
all that he has called to do and fulfill
the calling of his life.
It's not about his plans or our plans.
It's about God's plans.
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An enemy tried to take out his life
just before this election
and the hand of God spared his life for this election.
God will use whom he will use.
And God's ways are far above man's ways.
And his plans are far above any plan of any man or us.
Listen again now, closely to the last words
of his victory speech.
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Many people have told me that God spared my life
for a reason.
And that reason was to save our country
and to restore America to greatness.
It was no accident that God saved his life
and God doesn't do anything without a purpose.
Trump's life was saved by a fraction of a second,
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a fraction of an inch and Trump knows it.
Could God be calling him?
President Trump is speaking about his being saved
and saved to save America.
He's saying what I said in an earlier message here
that in what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania,
in the saving of his life,
could that be the key to the saving of America?
Could that be the key to the saving of America?
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I think that's a very powerful question.
And in one of the other videos that Rabbi did,
he actually talked about the blood on the right ear
and the blood on the right thumb of Donald Trump.
But if you look back in the Old Testament,
in the first five books,
one of the rabbinical or Levitical laws
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was that the priest that was supposed to make the sacrifice
for the nation had to dip his thumb
and his right earlobe and his big toe in blood
to make this sacrifice.
And like when President Trump was shot,
it was hit in the ear and it got on his hands
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and then his shoes came off too.
And so that was a very interesting correlation
prophetically that Rabbi also talked about.
No, I agree.
And actually I heard Pastor Jensen Franklin
refer to this too,
because I was actually at the Republican National Convention
just two or three days
after the July 13th assassination attempt.
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And I think it's profound to think about
how different things would be right now
had the assassin's bullet.
It would have been the most widely watched murder
in the history of the world.
And yet now one of the greatest miracles,
and I say miracle very clearly,
it's a miracle that God spared his life.
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So I think God does want to spare America
and want to make it so clear that his hand
is upon Donald Trump.
And this ought to be a mandate.
And again, I use that word strongly,
a mandate for all believers to pray for him.
And then for us to kind of do what Donald Trump did.
When he got up out of that moment,
he just, it was almost like just subconsciously
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put his fist up and yelled, fight.
And I think this is time for us to go to battle
in the spirit for the soul of America,
the soul of our churches, the soul of our families,
the soul of our own lives and say, this is a time.
President Trump says for the great American comeback,
but I say for the great American spiritual comeback.
Yeah, for sure.
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And it is a comeback that this country needs to make,
but spiritually it is so important.
And one of the things that was very interesting this year
was about the Dragon's prophecy.
And this book is the Dragon's prophecy,
Israel, the dark resurrection and the end of days
was very significant.
Like I said earlier, it became the number one
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bestselling book on the New York Times bestsellers list,
the week that it came out, which is a huge testimony.
I had the opportunity to interview Rabbi about this
and here's a little clip from that interview.
It was not an accident.
It is spiritual and it is part of an ancient war.
We just saw a little part of that war,
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the last chapter of that war,
but we are involved in a gigantic one.
And this goes with the book of Revelation.
This is what I saw when I saw the Dragon,
when I saw it at image of the Dragon.
By the way, John, when I started writing
the Dragon's prophecy, it turned out it was 2024,
it became the year of the Dragon.
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It turns out there was a comet that comes sweeps by Earth
every like 70 something years.
Well, it was appointed for 2024.
It's called the Devil's Comet or the Mother of Dragons Comet.
So many things about the Dragon.
And Dragon is mentioned in Revelation 12 and onward
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and it's the Dragon is at war with a woman.
The woman has a crown of 12 stars, that's Israel,
the 12 tribes.
The woman gives birth to Messiah, that's only Israel.
And so Revelation actually gives this.
This is 2000 years ago and it's giving the war right then.
And it has a lot of revelations within it,
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including number one, it uses the word,
Greek word for persecuted.
So it's not an accident that the Jewish people
are more associated with that word than any other people.
It's right there in Revelation.
It says that the Dragon has an orginso,
that's the Greek word for a rage, an antipathy,
a hostility, a burning hatred for Israel.
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And this rage you see to this day in Hamas.
You see it, you saw it with Hitler.
It's never ending.
You saw it on American campuses.
I mean, it's all part of that.
Now the thing about Revelation and Revelation 12
is that it focuses on the beginning of the age
and the end of the age, when the woman gives birth
to Messiah for a century to now, which at the end time.
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So it happens when Israel is back in the world.
That's when it kicks in.
That's when the focus of that,
that Israel will become the focal point of this rage
and it'll intensify it.
Well, that's what we're watching in the world.
This opens up the door of all sorts of mysteries
that we are watching right now.
The last part of the book is going into what do we do?
And how do you, because there's the war is again,
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not just against Israel, it says he made the Dragon
war against the rest of her children
who follow the ways of Messiah.
So it's a war against every believer
and it's a war against everyone
who bears the image of God.
The Dragon has a war.
Since you were conceived,
the Dragon has been warring against you.
He's also going to keep you from God, to abuse you,
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to addict you, to defile you, to depress you, suppress you.
That's it.
And so how do we recognize though,
because the same battle against Israel,
same battle against we're all dealing with,
the Bible gives a promise about how to overcome.
In fact, to that same prophecy of the Dragon
in Revelation 12 is the one that it says,
but they overcame him by the Dragon,
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by the blood and the lamb of the power.
So we are guaranteed victory, but we have to fight.
And the thing is that,
and so the last parts of the book deal with that.
And the thing is that there's actually a mystery,
there's a, we won't be able to go into it,
but there's a chapter called
The Mystery of the Secret Israelis.
And I'll just say this,
and it gives the key about how to overcome it.
Everything in the end days,
because it's going to be more intense,
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but everything you're dealing with in your life.
And the thing is it's linked to that.
I'll just say this,
that the secret Israeli is actually you,
everyone listening who is born again,
you're a secret Israeli,
according to the Hebrew of the Bible.
And there's an incredible revelation about how to overcome.
But God has called us to overcome.
And just keep in mind,
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when you're looking at this whole picture,
and you're looking at what's happening in Israel,
yes, Israel, the history of Israel bears witness
to the enemy, but it also more bears witness to God.
Because after all this, all this,
we're getting a little taste of it.
It's been going on for 4,000 years.
The Pharaohs tried to destroy Israel,
the Assyrians, the Babylonians, the Romans,
the Hitler, Russia, but you know what?
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The Pharaohs are gone, the Rome has fallen,
Babylon is gone, Hitler's gone,
all the terrorists are gonna be gone.
They're all gone, but the nation of Israel lives,
because the God of Israel lives,
and because Messiah of Israel lives.
And if you are following him, you're gonna live,
and you will have victory.
If you fight the fight, you're guaranteed victory,
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your God lives, and that's beyond all the things.
And in Revelation, it says there is victory in the lamb.
In the end, you got a dragon, you got a lamb,
but amazingly, the lamb wins.
And so if you're with a lamb, you're gonna win,
but you gotta fight, and you will be guaranteed that victory.
Slay your dragon.
You have the power, or the blood of the lamb.
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Wow, so, you know, Malachi,
the things that were really interesting about this
is that there was no way that Rabbi could have known
some of the other things that were happening,
that this was literally the year of the dragon
on the Chinese calendar,
but there was this big HBO House of the Dragon
special promotions that were happening
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right around the same time, where in New York City,
they had a giant inflatable dragon descend
upon the Empire State Building,
and they actually had all these signs that were saying,
you must choose, you must choose.
And so there was a lot of this choice
about the dragons going on, and it was in pop culture,
but Rabbi was speaking prophetically about this.
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What is your take on this, the dragon's prophecy,
and really about how prophecy affects culture?
Well, I mean, let me just say kind of humorously,
either this is the greatest book set up a year in advance
the world has ever seen, okay,
or it really, again, is just showing you
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the Lord interweaving, the Lord knows way in advance
what's about to happen,
and sometimes he just gives a little bit in part
for us to see the fuller picture later.
I think it's showing us that the dragon's prophecy
about, yes, the attack of Satan on the church,
on this people, on the nations,
and it's just letting us know in the spirit
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what's really going on, like what's really unfolding,
not at a much larger scale.
Like I think at some things in life,
we get a 10,000 foot view and maybe a 30,000 foot view,
but what if we're getting really heaven's perspective,
maybe God's time clock beginning to unfold.
And so again, the miracle of this is the timing of this.
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This is no accident.
This is not just mere coincidence.
This is kind of divine guidance for the hour
so that we are awake to what's really happening.
Yeah, and what's interesting is obviously,
if you don't know, Charisma Publishing actually
is Jonathan Cahn's publisher,
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and so we kind of have an inside scoop on what's coming out.
And just the conversation that was happening here
was Jonathan had a different book in mind,
and he still is planning on doing that book,
but the Lord interrupted his plans
and said, you need to do about this dragon.
You need to write about the dragon's prophecy.
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And so there was this urgency with that.
And I love that throughout the year on his YouTube channel,
which everybody needs to subscribe to that,
he has these prophetic messages or prophetic interpretations
of what's happening in our world today.
And I wanna point out a couple of things
that really stuck out to me this year.
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And this video clip that you're about to see,
Rabbi is talking about something that happened in Turkey
when they basically blasphemed God and blasphemed Israel.
And so just watch this and we're gonna comment.
A member of the Turkish parliament
gets up to give a speech.
The speech condemns Israel, of course,
and for Israel's actions in defending itself
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against the terror of Hamas.
He goes on and on and on condemning Israel.
But at the end of his speech,
he does something not usually seen in a speech
in a parliament.
He calls down a curse upon Israel from heaven.
He actually calls down a curse.
Now watch, I want you to see it for yourself.
The translation is gonna be at the bottom.
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If you get rid of us, you won't get rid of the torment of conscience.
If you get rid of the torment of conscience,
you won't get rid of the torment of history.
If you get rid of the torment of history,
you won't get rid of the torment of God.
I salute you all with respect.
Okay, he just cursed Israel.
And not only cursed Israel,
but actually called down a curse from heaven upon Israel.
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Now Genesis 12 warns, don't do that.
Because if you do that,
what you call down on Israel or the Jewish people,
it's gonna come back down on you.
Now watch what happens.
You won't get rid of God's torment.
I salute you all with respect.
I salute you all with respect.
The man was struck down dead.
The man was struck down dead.
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He called down a curse from heaven on Israel,
and he was struck dead.
The Abrahamic covenant before your eyes in real time.
Is God real or what?
Genesis 12 recorded on videotape at the Turkish parliament.
Do you think the Turkish government might have second thoughts
about cursing Israel in the future?
Well, they're gonna be part of Ezekiel 38 and 39,
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but maybe some will take note.
But here's the thing.
America has been Israel's strongest ally in the modern world
and the most blessed nation.
But there's a very present danger.
The polls are showing that the younger generation of Americans
is not only the generation that's least connected to God
and biblical values.
That's fascinating.
I mean, that breaks your heart for sure,
but you see the power of God.
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When somebody blasphemes God and calls down a curse on Israel,
it backfires.
And that's what the Dragon's prophecy speaks about.
That's what this whole,
last year's prophetic words were all about Hamas and violence
and there's definitely God speaking to this evil
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in this world.
What's your take on that whenever you see things like that?
When I see that, it tells me one, God's word is true.
Number two, God's warnings are very true.
And maybe God's saying, hey, it's kind of like,
maybe we should take seriously the things he tells us.
Like now I'm thinking about Annihilation of Sapphira
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in the book of Acts going, you know what?
Maybe we should be in this hour
a little more careful with our words,
but as terrifying as that is,
if that happens to someone that curses Israel,
it makes me think, man, what could God do?
What would God do with people that bless Israel?
Like what if 2025 was the year that,
that while others are blaspheming Israel,
John, what if we and the church are actually blessing
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the nation of Israel and the people of Israel?
That's what I think that more than that terrifying me,
that encourages me that that should be
the posture that we take.
Yeah.
Yeah, we need to have that posture
where we bless instead of curse.
And honestly, there's a lot of,
I see a lot of antisemitism rising up
in even in the conservative culture,
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which you would think would be very, you know,
looking at the people of the Bible
and saying they're God's blessed people.
There are some conservative commentators right now
that's very concerning to me.
Well-known young conservative commentators
and some definite lies.
And I don't wanna go in the weeds of this,
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but the whole Rothschild demonic blasphemy,
that's what it is.
I mean, this is not the hour to play around
with God's people and the nation of Israel.
Like I've heard somebody relate Zionism to Nazism.
Just recently, I'm going,
that's very dangerous in this hour.
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Yeah.
Those are things that we need to be wary of
and call it out, call evil, evil,
whenever it's out there.
I've got another clip that I wanna share
that from that, actually that same video
that Rabbi was talking about what happened in Turkey,
something very interesting happened in South America
regarding the Pope.
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So let's take a look at this.
Does every lightning strike mean judgment?
No, but this one is too much.
It strikes the sign of the office in the land,
in the nation, in the province of the Pope.
And it turns out there are major lightning rods
around the statue to prevent this.
So this shouldn't have happened, but it happened anyway.
But it's not only where the statue was
and where the bolt of lightning came,
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it was when it all came,
when the lightning struck the statue.
It was on December 17th, 2023.
Anything significant about that date?
Well, yeah, December 17th happens to be
the birthday of the Pope.
So you have the office, the land, the nation,
the province, the time, the birthday,
all pointing to the present Pope.
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So Malachi, I mean, we're talking about the correlation
with the prophetic things with the Pope.
So we've looked at the Hebrew, the Jewish world,
the Islamic world, and now the Catholic
or the Christian world.
And the Pope, if you look at the rest of what Rabbi
was saying, this was right after the Pope
has basically said same-sex unions and marriages
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are now blessed, even though it definitely goes against
what the Bible has said and what even the Catholic church
has said throughout the decades,
throughout the centuries even.
And so you see that this statue of Saint Peter
that was holding the keys had a halo on it
and these keys in its hand.
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And literally lightning hits this statue,
the halo's gone and the keys disintegrate
and it is basically kind of destroyed.
And there's no way that the lightning
should have hit there because there's all these other things
around to protect it, but it was hit and it was destroyed.
And Rabbi was looking at this as a prophetic sign.
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When you see stuff like this happen in our world today
and then you have somebody like Rabbi say,
there is a prophetic meaning behind this,
how do you take that in response?
Wake up people, definitely wake up 100%,
wake up to what is happening in this hour,
wake up to that God's trying to get people's attention.
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100% God is 100,000% trying to get people's attention.
Like even when same-sex marriage was approved in America,
we had a situation right near our church, John,
when on the day that that happened,
lightning literally hit one of the trees by our church
and one of the branches fell off
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and crushed both the American flag
and the Christian flag on that day.
I'm telling you, God's trying to get people's attention
or use very dramatic, visible things like this
to make us question and make us realize what's going on.
So it's time to wake up.
Yeah, and we as a people, I think write off way too much.
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God's getting our attention and we just say,
oh, that's just coincidence.
Well, or that's, yeah, there's no coincidence
in the Hebrew dictionary.
It is there as all prophetic utterances.
Providence, so yeah. Providence, yeah.
So, you know, this, we didn't even get a chance to talk
about Jonathan Cahn's interpretation
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of the Olympic opening ceremony in France.
I mean, that was very blasphemous
in so many different ways,
but even with the end time rider on the pale horse
running down the river and carrying this torch,
there was a lot of end time symbology that was there.
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Malachi, as you look at the end times things
and specifically in relation to what Jonathan Cahn has said
and how we look at our future, where do you find hope?
My hope in all of that is if we're getting to see this,
it ought to strengthen our faith that the Lord is moving
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and we as believers have no reason to fear,
no reason to be, and this actually should embolden our faith
to be in 2025, to be strong in the gospel,
strong in the spirit.
I understand that the Lord put us on this planet
for such a time as this to rise up with the gospel,
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with signs and wonders and believing
that all of this is a precursor, Jon.
One of my dearest friends always said
in the hour of greatest darkness will come,
the hour of the greatest revival in history,
and I believe we are on the precipice of that revival.
I'm seeing it on college campuses in America,
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seeing it in various movements,
so those things that seem so dark, just say,
hey, that means God is up to something
way more powerful than that.
So I'm actually encouraged by what the Lord's letting us see.
Yeah, and that is very powerful,
and if you wanna continue to see more of this,
I recommend that you subscribe to this channel,
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like and comment, and let us know
what your thoughts are of this as well.
And we just appreciate Rabbi Jonathan Cahn so much,
and as we reflect on these prophetic insights from Rabbi,
we, may we approach the coming year
with heightened awareness and a renewed commitment
to God's spiritual principles.
Stay tuned for more revelations and guidance
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as we navigate the times ahead.
I'm John Madorazo, and this is Malachi O'Brien
for Charisma Media, God bless you.