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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is Charlie Mike
the podcast Veterans helping
veterans.
Talking about things happeningin the veteran community, Things
we've experienced and overcome,such as addictions, PTSD,
depression, legal trouble, andwe also promote veteran-owned
businesses.
If you're talking about it,we're talking about it.
(00:24):
This is Charlie Mike thepodcast.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yo, what's going on
everybody?
Welcome back to another episodeof Charlie Mike the podcast.
As always, I'm your host, RaulGuys.
Man, it's been crazy.
It's been crazy, I've beenexcited.
You guys know I get extraexcited when I have a friend of
mine that I served with not onlyin the States, I served with
him in combat, so y'all alreadyknow how I feel about that
(01:09):
situation.
So, modest, I'm going to letyou start off.
Introduce yourself, bro.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
What's up guys.
My name is Eric, Me and Raulmet.
What was it?
2007?
, Was it?
I think?
I think, I don't remember 2007,october 2007.
And you?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
know, hit it off.
We weren't in the.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Army.
I wasn't in the Army at my unitfor like three months and then
when I got to the unit they werelike, hey, you know, we go to
Iraq in like three months.
Right, y'all just got back fromNTC.
I was like what I?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
just got here.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I can't go nowhere
yet.
And sure enough, it was likeJanuary 5th, we were in Iraq,
gone.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
It's crazy, isn't it?
Yeah, yeah, man.
I want to learn more about you,ben, but I want you to
introduce the guest.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
All right, so brought
with me my boy Omar and my
buddy, javorski.
So me and Omar grew up togetherand Javorski I mean we've known
him or like Omar and him knewof each other, have knew each
other growing up and stuff.
I was a little bit younger so Ididn't really wasn't in that
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group, but me and Omar own aconstruction company together.
And then we got with Dravorskiand Dravorski's got this beef
jerky line he's trying to comeout with.
So we started putting our headstogether and kind of trying to
launch that thing too.
So we're running buddies now.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Man, tell us a little
bit about yourself, who you are
, where you're from.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
All right, my name's
Omar Omar Yancey from Lufkin,
texas.
Like Eric was saying, we grewup together.
I didn't just run around withJaworski, but we knew of each
other.
He's a big football star.
I'm sure a lot of people aregoing to know of him out of
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Lufkin Texas.
um he don't look that big A&M,little dude, nfl, the whole run.
Um, so, eric and I he went tothe military, like you're saying
, ran through everything withyou.
He come back.
We uh linked back up as oldfriends and got into the
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construction business.
Uh, both worked for the samecompany.
I separated from that for acouple years.
Come back to it we're going.
Didn't really like how that wasgoing so I tried to beg him for
, you know, multiple years like,hey, man, let's get out on our
own.
We need to do this.
Like we can take this anotherstep.
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I think that there's a lot ofthings we can change to be
successful on our own.
And uh, finally convinced himto that about a couple years ago
.
Yeah, we started patriotconstruction out of the veteran
aspect for him and now it'snumber one construction company.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
number one
construction company in lufkin,
number one construction companyin Lufkin.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Everything's taken
off and I think we just blend
really well.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
We got an award this
week.
From what?
Speaker 4 (04:15):
was it.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
It's like best in the
US company.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Yeah, recognized as
one of the best companies in the
US as far as customersatisfaction.
Damn, that's what's up Keepinga five best companies in the US
as far as customer satisfactionDamn that's what's up Keeping a
five-star review in your company?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
It's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
That's what it's
about, man customer service.
You get one bad Google reviewand that's your company.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
That's it.
Everything's about a paycheckright at the end of the day, but
we try to treat the businessnot just that, you know, because
the paycheck's inevitable.
You're going to get that at theend of the day, but you know,
your success for long term youhave to provide, you know, a
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level of customer service that Ireally think is dead in a lot
of businesses nowadays.
I think if you take pride inthat and you treat people right
and you take pride in whatyou're doing, you're going to go
to the next level for longevityinstead of be this just bam on
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the presents, make some money,fizzle out and kind of lose what
you put your efforts into.
At that point you're going toget surpassed yeah, man, that's,
that's dope.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
It definitely is, you
know once you get to learn.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
So why construction
is just something you you both
were were into accident yeahyeah, really as crazy, as it is
complete accident uh, justnecessity of needing a job
coming out of the military yeahand I went to work for the
company omar, went to work thesame guy and then we just took
everything we knew and learned.
And the guy that we worked foryou know he was.
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He was one of the bestcompanies in lufkin, so we got
to learn a lot of things.
We just didn't like some of thepractices that we saw overall
in the market or like in the inthe business, and so we just try
to take out all the things thatwe saw that we didn't like and,
you know, apply our values tothat and change it all up and
come up with our own deal.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
You know that being
said, big shout-out to that
company that we started with.
It was a really great mentor.
Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
In that aspect
learned a lot from it, mentor?
Speaker 5 (06:28):
oh, absolutely, that
aspect learned a lot from it and
uh, you know, so he he does.
He does deserve thatrecognition as well he really
did help build, build us, youknow we just it was time to take
a different path and go on to adifferent level.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
You know I, I see a
lot of y'all when y'all, when
y'all talking about business, Isee a lot of myself.
You know it's when people comeand talk to me and they say like
, hey, I want to learn aboutpodcasting.
I'm not going to be like, look,this is.
I'll tell them bits and pieces.
That's not what I do.
I tell them everything.
I tell them how I became.
You know, in the situation I am.
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I tell them the things that Idone wrong, that they don't want
to do.
There's no secrets, man,because I'm not competing with
you.
Your audience is going to bedifferent than my audience.
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, so sometimes people aregoing to click on it and be like
man, I don't like that dude'svoice and just click off and
it's the same thing.
So it's not like I'm notcompeting with anybody.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
No, we just had a guy
last week that was another one
of our friends we grew up with.
He called and was like hey, man, do you think y'all could help
me look at this house, figureout what it needs to renovate it
?
He's trying to ask us questionsand the years we were coming up
, I remember asking several homebuilders or people that had
already been doing it for years.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Won't do it.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
They wouldn't tell me
nothing.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
So we had to learn
everything the hard way.
Yeah, everything the hard way.
So whenever he called, I waslike yeah, man come on.
We'll go just ride with us fora whole day and we'll teach you
everything we can teach you in aday and just absorb everything
you got.
That's what it's about.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
I mean, it's a lot of
people out there that they feel
like their level of successdepends on the level of failure
of others.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, oh man 100%.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
And that's not really
what it is.
What it is is your level ofsuccess is all a part of your
own right.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
What pride do you
take?
What practices do you have?
How are you going to growyourself or your company, and
how are you going to be the bestyou're going to be?
And if these people would worrymore about internal growth
within what they're doing, thenthey wouldn't have to worry
about, you know, the next person.
They'll be successful on theirown, even if this person, this
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person and this person is alsosuccessful.
I don't have to beat you downand step on your head in order
to find my success.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yes, that's 100.
Yes, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
So we just took a.
You know, we've kind of hadlike a long-term plan, we've
been doing the remodelingconstruction and so we just
bought our first house.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yeah, our first flip
house.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
First flip In Lufkin.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yep Dope man.
Super nice neighborhood on thegolf course.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Yeah.
It's going to be a good one andyou know, on that point there,
you know, to some people that'snot like, oh wow, you know
that's not like this big thingand everything.
But you know we didn't comefrom the same background that a
lot of people that get intocompanies, own companies, have
Like this, isn't we're not fromgenerational wealth.
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Yeah, companies have like thisisn't we're not.
We're not from generationalwealth.
Yeah, we didn't have, you know,father didn't have a company
that got passed down to us and,matter of fact, you know, father
wise was pretty absent in inall of our lives here and you
know, just to have that strugglegrowing up and to miss that
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guidance, you know, of thefather of the man, I feel like
it was a really big achievementthat we have achieved to break
out of, get into what we'redoing, find the success we're
doing, growing it and then beingyou know, a father in our
children's lives on the back end.
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I mean, it was a big hole for usto climb out of.
People with similar scenarioscan probably relate to that.
If you didn't live through thatyourself, you might not
understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I feel you.
Let's introduce you and let'stalk a little bit.
Bro, how do you say your lastname?
Is that your last name?
Which?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
one.
That's my first name.
Javorski is my first name.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Say it Javorski.
Javorski, that's your firstname, that's my first name.
Damn, okay, okay, damn.
Tell us a little bit aboutyourself.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
We'll make it real
simple man.
I'm from Lufkin, texas, bornand raised Became.
This phenomenal athlete Got afull scholarship at Texas A&M.
Played four years there.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
You play quarterback.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
No I play a little
bit.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
But no man.
I played all four years there.
I still hold an all-timetouchdown record there.
After college I went to theDolphins for two years and
played with Tampa Bay for twoyears.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, man, I bet you
got to experience a lot man
doing that.
You know I got some questionsfor you offline.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Stuff we were talking
about a little here.
Yeah, no, man, I got toexperience a little bit, man,
coming from Lufkin man and ableto travel the world.
You know what I'm saying doingsomething that I love to do
being on my own, learning school, being a full-time student,
being a full-time athlete, youknow, being a father, being a
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boyfriend, being all.
You know all the stuff that gointo it, man.
So, man, I learned a lot on theway, for sure.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, yeah, man,
that's crazy.
So from Lufkin you know, bornand raised, you did your NFL
college dream and then you cameback and what are you doing now?
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Man.
I've been back and forth.
I lived in the cities for yearsand man, that city life would
get boring.
I was just talking to the boyson the way here, man, the
traffic, I hate the traffic.
That's another reason.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I was late.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Right.
So after my NFL days, man, youget caught up in that world of
trying to figure out what to do.
I opened up a gym, tried to getinto real estate, just all
certain stuff you know what Imean Become a coach and stuff
like that but, man, none of thatstuff interests me.
So I got in the funk of tryingto figure it out.
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So about three months ago, thisbeef opportunity came through.
It presented itself and I ranwith it.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
That's good man.
I tasted this Wagyu beef jerkyman.
This is.
Oh, what is this one?
This is barbecue, the barbecuebacon.
Yeah, man props, it's good andI'm not gonna lie, bro, I'm, I'm
uh, I'm uh.
When it comes to beef jerky,I'm picky about my shit jerky,
that's what I said, yeah, yeahit's like oh yeah, man, but this
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is good bro.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
No, I appreciate it,
man.
It's just one of those deals,man, where you know what I mean.
It's the expectation part.
You know what I'm saying?
My name on it, my brand on it,and I got to be the best.
I mean, that's just what it is.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
So J Train, is that
what they called you?
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yeah, that was my
nickname.
Yeah, that was my nickname,yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
That's what's up.
Yeah, why'd they call you that?
I run over your ass?
Yeah, he did.
That's what I'm talking about.
Were y'all able to witness himplay I?
Speaker 3 (13:52):
watched him play.
Yeah, yeah, Dope man, that'show he did it too.
He run straight over thosedudes.
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Yeah, it was in In
high school.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
What did you average
per carry About?
Speaker 4 (14:02):
five, six.
Easy, every time it's thatsmall, yeah easy, you know what
I'm saying.
I just had it on my mind.
I mean you had to make adecision.
Like a big guy moving that fastman, you don't want to hit that
Nice, that's common sense.
I mean I wouldn't want to do it.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
You're running at me.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
I'm running the way,
bro.
So now man, it was.
It was a good experience, manthat's what's up, man.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
That's uh.
Congratulations on that, man.
I know it takes a lot, you knowwell shit, just to finish
college.
It takes a lot, bro, to do, todo the college life.
I've been back like 10 timesand I still, you know, ain't you
know?
Speaker 4 (14:38):
oh, I get it, bro,
it's.
It's a hard process yeah, Imean it takes what I mean.
It takes a lot out of you and alot of people don't understand
that.
So just imagine juggling thatand being a full-time athlete.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Nah, and what they're
requiring of you Right.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Oh, and they didn't
pay you.
You didn't get money back then,though I didn't get no money
back then.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
So I'm a little
pissed off about that, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I would be too, man.
I saw these boys in collegebuying their mama's houses and
everything Like damn got thatcollege money.
That would be crazy.
I didn't think that that was athing man.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
Transformation to the
game man.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, that's
craziness, you know so, man.
So, being when you were young Iknow a lot of us said it.
You know, man, you know, oneday, when I get older, I'm going
to go into the NFL Kind of likea dream, you know what I'm
saying.
How did it feel to actuallymake that happen?
Was that something that yousaid when you were little?
Were you always a big dude?
Speaker 4 (15:38):
I've always been a
big dude, but I had always
understood that I was different.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
Like from the
basketball court, from track to
football to baseball.
Anything I did, I dominated.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
So it's crazy that me
and him met.
It was an AAU basketball teamthat was created when we were
kids.
He's had a chip on his shoulderbecause he didn't get to play
on the team but, his homeboy gotto play on the team.
But to sum it up, that's whatchanged my life only because I
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wasn't just playing talent inLufkin anymore.
We was going across the state,going to Louisiana, oklahoma,
arkansas, playing against olderkids.
So that's where the monster wasbuilt.
So when I got back to Lufkin,say during when school started
back, I'm dominating myclassmates and they looking at
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me like who in the hell is thisdude?
So I took that same approachthat I couldn't be stopped in
all sports.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Shit, bro.
Just keep that for the rest ofyour life.
Man, that mindset, anything Ido, I'm going to crush it, I'm
going to crush it.
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:57):
It's nothing that I
can't do.
Became a lion, right.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Yeah, that's shit
that's hard to find.
Yeah, that mindset, yeah becamea line right?
Speaker 2 (17:05):
yeah, that's hard to
find, yeah and that mindset.
Yeah, like you don't see well, Imean, you know it's different
these days, man, it really is.
And you know, I, I told you Iwas just at the va and um, you
know, man, sitting next to theseguys, that that are just, you
know, oh, you know, this vasucks.
You know, this b-i-t-c-h, blah,blah, blah, like yo, bro, you
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know, if you chill, man, justchill and don't say thank you,
yes, ma'am, no ma'am, I mean,don't act entitled.
That shit goes a long way, bro,you know, and and it'll change
the way people look at you inthe way that you're.
You know you, yeah, I don'tknow, I just got, I got.
So it was just like it rubbedme crazy man.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
So I don't like
people getting just you know
being like that either.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Man built off of what
he just said.
Like you said, at a teenagelevel.
There was a moment that thatyear of traveling and going
against that competition openedup his eyes and he knew it was
like know for the takenabsolutely, and he went and and
earned it himself and took ithimself, and it seems like you
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know the youth nowadays.
It's like I deserve it.
Yeah, you're right, it'stwisted up because really and
truly you don't deserve anythingthat you don't, that you're not
willing to go put in the workfor and go take yourself Like
bro, like you know that's.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
I can remember I drew
the line in the dirt.
If you wasn't my teammate, youwas getting it, dude, you was
getting it, yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I didn't want to be.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
I didn't want to
shake your hand.
I didn't want to be your friend.
I didn't want to be.
I didn't want to shake yourhand, I didn't want to be your
friend.
I didn't want to sit with youIf you didn't have.
I think the time we were, andone man if you didn't have, and
one across your chest, man, itwas war.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Right, yeah, that's
crazy man.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
This is the same
thing with us, but we were
actually at war.
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
yeah, yeah nah, man,
that's crazy.
Nah, that's, that's what's up.
I uh keep that mindset, man howold are you?
37 oh, you still young too.
I say young because you, you'reyounger than me.
You're still young.
How old are you?
37?
I know how old you are 36, 37,yeah, man.
So so, y'all, when was thefirst time that you met J Train?
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I'm going to call you that bro,because I can't fucking
pronounce it hey J, yeah, yeah,yeah, welcome to my world.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah, so we just met
this year and we started talking
.
And once he started talkingbecause I mean we meet people
all the time, like constantlymeet people, because I mean we
meet people all the time, likeconstantly meet people, and Omar
and I have the same mindset,you know, as far as having an
entrepreneurial mind, or likewanting to go and do and have
ideas and pursue those ideas,take chances, and you just don't
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meet people like that yeah so,after 10 minutes of talking to,
him he starts telling me allthese things.
I'm like this guy's got it yeah,you know like we can do some
stuff, and then you know he'stelling me all these things.
I was okay, this is what, whenwe clicked right there, okay
this is my boy.
Yeah, that's what's up, man andthen so it's like his beef
jerky deal.
You know, me and omar, our maindeal is sales.
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You know, like we, that's ourrole in the company other than
running and owning.
But sales man, we still, we selleverything.
So we told him like hey, man,we'll take your product and you
know we can figure out how toget it on the market, get it in
the stores and do whatever.
So that's kind of we're at thatpoint at the bottom floor
(20:41):
getting it going but dope man.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, you be sure to
send me your logo, man, I'll put
it all over this mug.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
So we can share the
information bro, get this higher
.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I like, I like it man
it's good with that wagyu beef
yeah, so there's not a lot of soI got questions for this beef
jerky game, man, because Inoticed some.
There's some big competitorsout there, bro, so how?
How did you get into this?
This is, I mean, where have youalways been a beef jerky head?
Speaker 4 (21:06):
you know what I'm
saying man, it's one of those
deals where you know I don'tknow if you know anything about
texas and them, but that's ait's a.
It's a good.
It's a close group aggies, takecare of aggies, yeah, yeah so,
like I said, man, I had got outthe league and I had started
looking for different avenues ofentrepreneur.
Because I mean I learned in theNational Football League, I
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mean I couldn't work for nobody,right.
So I was in that deal of tryingto find something, something to
do so a buddy of mine that Iwent to college with.
He worked at Form 44 in CollegeCameron or College Station 1 or
2.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
And he had just hit
me out of Facebook.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
He had just hit me
off.
Facebook because I had just gotout of rehab and stuff like
that from drinking alcohol andprescription drugs and all the
football-related stuff, right?
So he had just sent me a kindmessage like hey, bro, keep your
head up.
You know, I know I'm keeping upwith you online, man, you got
your head on straight, just staythere.
He said.
Man, there may be anopportunity for you somewhere in
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this thing and I'll reach outto you when it's time.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
So he finally reached
out to me.
Long story short, they offeredme the beef jerky job.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
So it's just all
about who you know.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
That's what's up, man
.
So how are you doing as far asyour recovery?
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Man, I'm doing good,
you know what I'm saying I got
good guys like this that I cantalk to and I can help.
I mean that we can all helpeach other, because, like I said
, man, I was just missing thecamaraderie and the team aspect.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
That's a big deal.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
When I left the game.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Everybody around me
didn't understand the nature of
where I come from, yeah, so Igot in the funk right.
So once I met him when I methim, you know what I mean I
immediately like, oh shit, thisshit, finna take off like
nonstop now.
And the fact that I foundpeople that's wired like me,
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that makes me feel better as aperson too as well, because it's
somebody out there that is likeme.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Yeah, that's that old
saying iron sharpens iron man.
Yeah, man, that's the thing.
Like-minded individuals yeahit's the same thing, man.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I got in my funk when
I got out of the military and I
missed that camaraderie, I missbeing for all those times.
I remember waking up and at myhouse and going downstairs and
there'd be five or six people inthe living room like man who
let y'all in.
You know what I mean, but itwas just, it was, it was cool,
it was, it was comfortable andthen once you get in, out and
being by yourself and have toexperience life alone, it's just
crazy.
(23:49):
Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Yeah, and that bond
that you have, there's like a
big emptiness there.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
There is man.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
And a normal person
you meet is probably not going
to feel or make you feelcomfortable to fill that hole
Right and I don't know.
It's weird.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah, you just, man,
find a good group of people.
You know I relied on thealcohol and drugs.
You know, when I first got out,I did that for a long time.
I did too.
I did it for a couple years and, just like I say, a couple
years, it was like a lot.
Yeah, it was a lot.
Yeah, but you know I didn'tlearn my lesson, man, and you
know I kept, you know, gettingaway with this, getting away
(24:26):
with that.
And I finally got in troubleand I was like, all right, you
know, they sent me to counselingand I had to do all these
programs with the VA and thingslike that.
So I was just like, ok, well,let me do what the court wants
me to do and I'll stop doing allthis shit until I'm off this
program.
So I was like, all right, 30days went by.
I was like, damn, 30 days feelsgood.
60 days went by.
(24:47):
A year went by.
You know what I'm saying andit's just like man.
I was like man, I think I'mgoing to.
I got out of the program andthen they were like, yay, yo,
you did great.
You know, we want you to comeback.
So the month that I got out ofthe program, I went back into
the program as the speaker ofthe graduation for the next
(25:08):
class, just about like, hey, I'mgonna tell you my life, man,
and just it feels good, you know, not knowing that people,
people relate to your story andpeople say, hey, man, you know,
because I saw you do it, I knowI can do it, and that's the
dopest feeling in the world, broyeah, people say you placed a
like a level of accountabilityonto yourself to be that
(25:31):
representative for for theseother people as well.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
You know it's hard,
that helps you.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
It's really hard to
come out of that like most
people don't mentally that wasprobably some of the hardest
shit that I've ever done.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Oh, 100%, mentally
100%.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
That's saying a lot
when you're talking about Iraq
the.
Nfl, all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Yeah, we at the top,
we at the best of the best.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
And we're saying it's
the hardest thing you've ever
done.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah, man, 100%, bro.
You know I've had some darkmoments, man, and I think that
was how I seriously got intolike podcasting was sharing my
story and my message andsomebody hitting you up and be
like hey, man, thanks for sayingthat.
I know that I'm not aloneanymore and I remember being
(26:25):
alone in my darkest, deepestplace on the floor with the gun.
You know, I remember that and Iremember saying like damn, I'm
all alone.
You know, thinking that in myhead when I probably actually
wasn't all alone, but it's justthe way I felt, and when I after
that is when I was like allright, I'm gonna try to make
(26:48):
some changes in my life, try todo these things right and see
what comes out of it.
Man and bro, a few years agoy'all would have told me this
shit.
I would have been like man,you're fucking crazy right you
know what I'm saying it's justinsane.
Hey, god is good.
Yeah, man, yeah, definitely Idon't even talk about.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
You know, like mine
was like five years, I think
yeah, you know I was just likedoing drugs and alcohol and
basically anything I could do tokill myself.
What?
Was the wake up the legalsystem.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah, you know, mine
too.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Legal system and then
have kids.
Having a kid, yeah.
And going to rehab five times,damn.
You know, yeah, five rehabs.
Yeah, I'm a persistent person.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
That's good bro.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
I damn you know.
Yeah, five, yeah, I'mpersistent.
That's good, bro, stop till, Iget it.
You know that just makesperfect.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Yeah, man, but I
don't, you know, I don't talk to
people or tell.
I kind of try to put thatbehind me just because of the
you know, the business stuff.
I almost just, you know justpretend like it didn't happen
unless I'm talking to somebodywho, yeah, needs to hear that,
but yeah, I try to that.
I understand.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
But you know, what
the crazy thing is is I'm so
open with it, man, and when Iknew at first, when it all
happened, I was so like I'm nottelling anybody.
I'm not telling.
Well, people knew my mystruggles because when you get
in trouble in this city, righthere, they post it on facebook.
So when my mugshot went viral.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
(28:13):
So, like people were like, oh,dang, dang, look at this food.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
So I was like you know, afterthat I got out and I was like,
all right, okay, okay, you know,I was embarrassed, I didn't
want to be seen around the city,I didn't want to be seen doing
things.
And, and when I finally knew Iwas in that recovery, I was
going to NA NA, na and I waslike you know, I'm ready to work
the program.
I put like a picture of myselfnow and then I put a picture of
(28:35):
that mug shot and I posted itmyself.
I was like this is me, this iswhere I was and this is where I
am now.
But I don't tell no secrets,because people come in here, man
, we have politicians that comein here congressmen, state
senate, the mayor everybodycomes in here and is on the
studio, does different things,and it's just.
I want them to know who I amand you know what's cool is like
(28:57):
.
They don't fucking judge me,bro yeah, yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
I'm not.
If you ask me, I'm gonna tellyou, but I'm not gonna tell you
unless you ask me yeah, yeah,yeah my son got in the car,
picked him up from the schoolthe other day and he said dad,
what's this?
It was my mugshot on Google.
Oh dang, he pulled it up.
Yeah, I was like.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
How old is your son
now?
You know that's like a bigthing.
You know it's like a fad onTikTok yeah.
Facebook, you know, like Googleyour parents.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Was it really?
Speaker 5 (29:27):
Yeah, yeah, so my kid
did it.
For some kids it ends uphitting, ends up hitting.
Yeah, you know, I've got likethree mugshots on there oh bro,
I got a few.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Yeah, and then one of
them it's weird.
So one of them, like it has mymugshot, it has my picture, but
then it has some crazy chargesunderneath it, and so I don't
know why my picture's there.
But once you click on it, thenthe actual guy's picture comes
up, oh so, and son it's.
It says like uh, you know, guytries to tell his officers, you
know that he's gonna kill himwhen he leaves the jail.
(29:56):
And I'm like son, I didn't dothat, I swear yeah that wasn't
me, look, and I'm trying toclick on the show and I was like
I've been in jail, but not forthat yeah, you know he's like I
don't believe you, dad.
Yeah, but so I had to cross thatroad the other day.
But I told him, like he, youknow, when we were, when he was
younger, like he asked, I thinkone time I was like yeah, Ben
and Jill.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
whatever, let me go.
You know it's different nowbecause when my girls are a
little older Faith is 19 andLayla is 12.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
So it's just this
tall.
Last time I saw them yeah, Iknow.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
So I try to tell them
to be careful with what you do
as far as substances alcohol,drugs because it's in our blood.
You know what I'm saying.
Like, my older brother is stillstruggling with it.
My mother struggled with ituntil she passed and it's just
in the blood yeah.
So I think that scares her alittle bit, my 19-year-old which
(30:47):
is a good thing, you know and Itell her I was like you know I
don't know if this is me justdoing bad parenting I was like
I'd rather you smoke weed thandrink beer, absolutely.
You know what I'm saying LikeI'd rather you do that and I
mean, we'll see how it goes.
I never did anything crazy whenI smoked weed Me, neither man
Shit Gang wait, gang wait andsleep Watch movies.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Yeah, I never did
anything life-threatening.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
No, I never did
anything life-threatening.
No, yeah, yeah, man, every timeI got arrested naked around the
city was because of Apple man.
So what's going on with thisbusiness, man?
Tell me more about it.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Man, it's just I
don't know.
It's just been kind of likeyou're talking about.
We were just on a whim, justtried it, yeah, and it seemed
like everything just fell intoplace.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Well, first of all,
let me ask you this man how is
your family, bro?
Awesome, I see your boy looksjust like you.
Yeah, he really does man.
Yeah, like I had him, yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
No, he's doing golf
and he got into golf.
He started playing soccer thefirst year.
My uh, my daughter's like thirdyear she's been doing cheer
yeah that's her thing um.
My wife is.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
You know she got her
rn like last year yeah yeah,
last year, I think last year, Ithink a couple years ago it was
last year, the year before, andthen she's.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
She did a couple
pre-reqs and in may she starts
the rn to be us in transition.
So I'm trying to get herthrough that so I don't have to
work so hard anymore.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah, how's she doing
?
She's doing good.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah, she's good,
good, good.
She's mad at me today becauseI'm here.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh well, she's griping at me onthe way here.
I told you don't piss her off.
I know I what?
Nah, man, let me tell you.
So me and this dude have beenliterally around the world
together, man, we've been, youknow, kuwait, iraq, saudi arabia
(32:40):
.
We were in qatar.
We we swam in the persian gulf.
Yeah, you know, we uh man, wejust we've done some crazy
things, um, but you know it'sjust.
Uh, man, I miss you.
I had I had billy here fewmonths back and he came down to
the studio.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
So I watched the.
You know we went down for Sands.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
And Sands actually
came down to my house a couple
weeks ago and he's actuallycoming.
I invited him because I wantedto meet Jay and he's coming down
, I think next month.
He's going to stay the weekend.
Oh yeah, and we went down thereto see him.
But I think somebody told me.
So I watched the podcast and Iheard you and Billy talking
about the watermelon deal.
Yeah, but y'all never told thestory.
(33:24):
We can't tell the story.
I was like you can tell thewhole story.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
We can't.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
We can't.
I died laughing.
I still tell people that storyand that's probably one of the
craziest you know at likewildest nights to this day that
I've ever, you know, experienced.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
You remember martha
stewart no what's what that was.
That was your name.
Oh, that's what we called you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I rememberthat.
Can't tell that.
Yeah, no, that's another story.
You can tell that one yeah, man, we had some good times yeah,
we did even in which is crazy,because you're, because you're
in Iraq, it's weird to say thatMost people are like what do you
mean?
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Some of the best
times of my life.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Yeah, that's what I
tell people, man.
Military was some of the bestand worst times of my life.
You know, I tell my kids I wishI could have changed it,
because I wish I could have beenthere for your earlier years.
And then now, when y'all arekind of getting to that point
where y'all don't really need meas much, I wish, I wish that's
what I was doing.
(34:19):
My military service, you know,did you have kids as you were
traveling?
Speaker 4 (34:23):
yes, sir, I had man.
I had my first one at 18 oh,you were young yeah, right out
of high school shit.
Back to back.
Three back to back.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Well, yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Yeah, I mean I've
always wanted kids, you know
what I mean.
So my grandfather had told meat a young age like dude man,
have kids.
But when you have them, havethem young.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
So once you get older
you'll be able to join.
So I shot my shots.
Yeah, three for three.
You better stop.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
Yeah.
I had three back to back and Ihad a daughter, daughter son son
daughter, so I have five kidstotal.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
You know what that
tells me?
You got a weak ass pullout gang.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
It was cold at night.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
You having more kids.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
No, yeah, no, man, I
couldn't do it.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
What about you?
You got any kids.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
I got a 14-year-old
daughter and a son that just
turned three.
Three, oh, you got a baby.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
So I got a pretty big
gap there.
Oh yeah, hey, but look on thebright side, man, you got a
babysitter.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Yeah, kind of no.
Look on the bright side, man,you got a babysitter.
Yeah, kind of Nah, no, he isdifferent man.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
They ain't watching
no kids.
Oh yeah, they're different.
Nah, he different man.
These kids ain't watching nokids.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
When we make her
right, I remember my brother
watching me man.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
Negotiation, I was
one, he was two.
Yeah, basically back in the daythat's the way it was, that's
what's up.
Man, tell me some more.
Man, tell me what y'all beendoing.
Man, now that you've I know yousaid what you've experienced a
little bit how about yourself,man?
Did you, did you, hey?
(36:02):
So wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
This is a question.
So, lufkin, y'all just, y'alljust repped, y'all just wanted
to go back, y'all just justwanting to go back man.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
I don't know, man,
for me, man it was.
I got tired of the cities, man,you know what I mean.
And then, plus my grandma,there too.
She's still living, so I get tospend a lot of time with her in
her older days but if Iwouldn't have had nothing for
this business, I probablywouldn't have moved back,
Because that's I mean, there'sno jobs there.
(36:36):
So once I got this opportunity,I was like you know what?
I need to start looking backand going home.
So, man, I thought about it andI prayed about it and it brought
me home.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
That's what's up man
Lufkin.
As crazy as it is, Lufkin's areally unique place.
So if you're from the smallcountry which is kind of what it
was when we were young kids butif you're from the small
country you go to Lufkin, youmight feel like it's the city.
But if you're from Houston, ora bigger city.
(37:14):
You you go to Lufkin you saythis is a small town so you know
it kind of has a lot of the,the attributes and and features
of all worlds yeah, it's prettynice place to settle down.
You got enough there, but nottoo much there, and it's uh as
far as raising your kids and youknow it's it's a pretty humble.
(37:40):
I guess you feel like safeplace no, that's good, you got
the.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
You got two colleges
there, well you know.
You got natchitoches, sfa rightdown the road.
You got the junior college atac right in lufkin and dude in
the last.
What five years or ten years?
Speaker 5 (37:55):
how much has it grown
oh, tremendous dude I'm talking
about, then they're runningi-69 straight through it.
Yeah, they're building rightthrough it right now it's on a
growth they're building.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Uh, brookshire
brothers, that there's only one
like it in texas right now.
That's an a and you know, briancollege station.
They're building one in lufkin.
It's two-story picture,brothers.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Oh, it's kind of like
a, it's like the bar at the top
.
All kind of crazy stuff, Ithink the guys, the brisket guys
that.
I was telling you all about.
Earlier we were talking aboutit.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Yeah, so that's I
mean, man, you got almost every
restaurant you can think of Igive it another's and then we
have about.
So Lufkin only has a populationof like 36,000 on the sign.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
That's what they say.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
But yeah, on the sign
.
But if you got, I was talkingto a friend of mine that- you
know, knows all these numbersfor whatever reason, but in the
surrounding areas he saidthere's over a million people
that flows with Lufkin.
It was either on a daily basisor a weekly basis.
Dang, yeah, so it's not assmall, you know, as maybe you
(39:01):
would think it would be.
Speaker 4 (39:03):
But it's just small
enough to but I mean, if you
really, if you really thinkabout it, man, we done been
there, we done done it yeah, wedone, done it, experienced that
fast life.
Yeah, we done experienced that.
So now we're at a point in ourlife where it's slow.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Yeah, I feel you.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
And we want to keep
it slow.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
You right, you right.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
So you adapt back to
a slower environment and you try
to make a living off that.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
Dude, and after
living, having to be in the
military and having to live outof state and be away from home
not knocking any other state,but I would never live outside
of Texas again- oh, 100%, Likeyou can't get me to cross the
line and go live somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
No same here, man.
I got to experience differentplaces, different states and
things like that.
You know, I enjoyed Coloradojust because it's beautiful.
Yeah, yeah, it is, but it's nottexas, no you know I'm saying
no place like yeah.
And then I got to live in.
Um, well, it's mexico, el paso.
You know what I mean.
They were like.
(40:06):
They told me when I was incolorado.
I was like hey, aren't you atexas boy?
I said yeah.
They said you want to go home?
I said yeah, I was thinkingthat man for a hood.
Yeah, they sent me to.
Mexico.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
I was like man, it's
like Texas, that's some racist
shit right there.
You said home, but I thoughtyou meant home.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah, so it was
literally the same amount of
time to get from Colorado toHouston than it was to get from
El Paso to Houston.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
That's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
It's insane man.
Yeah, I was like yo.
All right, whatever.
Yeah, Texas is crazy big, it'scrazy big man.
So, abe.
So what kind of flavors you gotwith this beef jerky man?
Let me hear it.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Let me see.
Right now I'm eating bacon.
You know, barbecue bacon.
I have habanero, sweet andspicy.
Dill pickle Dill.
Pickle Original jalapeno.
Original Teriyaki Teriyaki.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
You said dill pickle.
Yeah, dill pickle.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
Oh, let me taste that
you want to try that one.
Yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:07):
I'll get you one of
those, yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Man, it's good bro,
it really is.
You know, I try to do myrazzle-dazzle.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Yeah, you've got to,
You've got to.
So what are you thinking, man?
Where are you going to go withit?
What do you see?
Long-term?
Give me a six-month one-year.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
Well, you know, I
only dream big.
I say in a month I'm trying toput it in across the states.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Yeah, I like this guy
In all 50.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
In all 50.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
I like this guy.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
You know what I mean.
I can't dream small.
I never dream small.
Yeah, I don't know what smallis.
Yeah, so I need it in Walmart,7-eleven, buc-ee's all the
Brookshires.
I want it all.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
That's what's up, man
.
I like it, man, so you knowit's crazy.
What was I thinking?
I was thinking one of the timesthat I remember you coming into
the city was during HurricaneHarvey.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Oh yeah, yeah, that
was cool man.
Yeah, that was a really coolthing to do.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Yeah, I remember.
You know I was watching I thinkit was the Mayweather fight
that Saturday.
I want to say it was theMayweather fight.
I was watching Mayweather fightsomebody, I don't remember who,
but and then early in themorning I get a call and he says
yo, I'm on the way, you good.
I was like, yeah, where are yougoing?
(42:30):
What's going on?
Speaker 4 (42:34):
I didn't even know
bro.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
He's like the city is
underwater.
I said what city?
He said we're coming down.
They came down.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
That sounds like
Mayweather and Canelo time.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
I think that's what
it was.
I think that's what it was.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
That was cool man.
We just had the boat and we'relike, hey, this sounds fun.
You know they need some help,let's go have some fun.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
So I remember.
So let me tell you how this isfunny.
So a couple of days later, I'mlaying down and I hear this
voice on the TV and it says thisis the Republic of Texas.
We take care of our own downhere.
This is what we do.
And I was like I know thatvoice.
(43:20):
I kept playing it.
I was like it was this boyTaking them to safety.
Come here, honey.
We're a little different.
Down here in the Republic ofTexas, we look after each other
and take care of our own.
He was on the news.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
Dude, I was in the
New York Times USA Today.
Yeah, yeah, hey, that's what'sup.
It was cool man.
I was like I know that voice.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
I told the girl I was
with.
I was like, oh man, I said holyshit yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
And so it was all.
We're in the right place at theright time.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
So we've been down at
Tidwell we're.
We're the first boat.
You know that there's like afamous picture of hurricane
harvey and it's got like an 18wheeler out.
It's a bunch of cars and abunch of boats and people and
there's 18 wheeler like in themiddle of the picture.
So it was tidwell.
So we were the first boat andvehicle to ever show up at
tidwell yeah and we were therefor like I think like nine hours
before the next boat showed up.
(44:09):
That's crazy.
I think we had like 60 peopleout of there before anybody else
showed up.
So when we got there middle ofthe night like I say, 10 o'clock
at night, stayed there allnight until 8 in the morning and
then, you know, sun came up andwe got back with one of our
loads of people.
There was freaking airboats andall these other trucks.
(44:30):
So we're like, hey, they'recovered here, let's go see if we
can find another place to helpwe other trucks.
So we're like, hey, they'recovered here, let's go see if we
can find another place to help.
We were dog tired.
So we went to a hotel rightthere in um, in humble, and got
some rest and we went out again.
That afternoon came back and afriend of mine that came in from
lufkin that night and wanted togo out and I was man, we've
(44:50):
been out freaking, you know 18out of the last 24 hours.
I don't really want to go, Ineed some rest.
Beg me to go, beg me to go.
So we take off and we're justgoing to go to Tidwell to see if
they needed any more help andwe get to the boat ramp not boat
ramp, basically the bridgewhere you throw your boat out in
(45:10):
the water.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
State trooper was like yeah,man, tell him to hop in.
And he says there's 30 or 40people trapped in a church up
Tidwell.
He was going to try to get tothem and see if we could help
them and get the status of them,whatever.
And once he got in the boat,he's like by the way, my name is
Bob, bob, I'm with the New YorkTimes.
I was like, oh snap, we got aNew York Times reporter Riding
(45:32):
in a boat with us right now.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
I was like I better
put these pants on.
Yeah, let's get serious, let'sact hardcore right now.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
And I swear we did,
man.
We were like Like trying to beall hard and stuff, like shining
the light, looking for peopleAll professional.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Yeah, that's what's
up Shit.
They needed it, though.
We needed it, man it was cool.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
I ran over a couple
cars Like the top of cars, with
the propeller of the boat Likehit them.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
What's that?
I think that was a car man.
Those cars ain't no good anyway.
No, they were done.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
They were done.
Yeah, man, it was fun, dude, Imean I say that fun, I don't
mean that in like a Right, rightright.
Like a.
You know, it was almost like akind of something you would do
in the military, so I enjoyeddoing it.
Speaker 2 (46:16):
you know so with the
construction company Patriot
Construction.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
Yeah, Patriot.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Construction and
Consulting.
Construction and Consulting.
How far do y'all go out fromLufkin?
Speaker 3 (46:27):
So that's a question
that basically depends on the
job.
Speaker 5 (46:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
You know, if you said
hey, I want you to do this
apartment complex and it's goingto you know net us X amount of
dollars then it's worth it to goand stay in a hotel for three
months, but other than that, Ihate going past an hour.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:48):
It seems like we
always lose a lot of our profit
margin the further we go.
Speaker 5 (46:53):
Right, you lose your
profit margin is lose a lot of
our profit margin the further wego.
Right, you lose your profitmargin.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
It's harder to
deliver the service that we
really are trying to build thecompany on.
Speaker 5 (47:03):
Yeah, makes that
ability really tough.
But, that being said, we'vecame to Houston, which I think
it was south side of Houston, soit was about two and a half
hours from where, like, homebase is located and, uh, we
painted, uh, entire apartmentcomplexes exteriors, um done
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some stuff like that.
Probably the thing that wewould travel the furthest and
the best on would be roofingroof.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Yeah, we could do a
roof anywhere in texas yes, we
have the ability to.
We have the crews across texasto do that, and I think we have
50 roofing crews in our phoneright now.
That's what's up.
Speaker 5 (47:46):
Yeah, you know it
doesn't require the same amount
of time.
That, say, like a renovationproject or a build or something
of that nature, actuallyrequires being like hands-on for
extended periods of time.
Speaker 3 (48:00):
No, if you called
Omar and said hey, you know, I'm
over here on the south side ofHouston at 123 West Lane.
I need a quote on the roof.
Fifteen minutes later, usingyou know the software or
whatever, he could say okay,it's going to be $16,573.
Yeah, and he never even had toshow up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, sothey have stuff like that with
roofing.
That makes it really easy.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
That's what's up.
That's craziness.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
Yeah, so you could do
the whole thing other than the
installation and never go lookat the property.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
So starting a company
and this I know you know, how
are you figuring it out?
Like, as far as the financialaspect, the bookkeeping, there's
a lot of shit that you have todo with the business.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
You have to LLC
correct?
Yeah, we're learning as we go.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Yeah, big time.
Speaker 3 (48:45):
Yeah, man, we just
got a full-time secretary like
six.
Oh, I don't know.
Probably about seven or eightmonths ago.
Seven or eight months ago, andso before that we were owner,
foreman, secretary, bookkeepercheck writer payroll every
single aspect of it.
Speaker 5 (49:04):
And that was a little
bit overwhelming.
That was yeah.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
It is, it is.
Speaker 5 (49:09):
And then you know
they say you make it through
your what it's something liketwo years, maybe even three
years.
If you can get through thosefirst few years, then you
actually have a shot for longterm, right?
So when we started this I thinkI speak for both of us whenever
I say we kind of felt like thatmeant if you could get enough
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work for year one and year twoand year three and all that,
then you're going to getstabilized out and be good.
Well, we got completelyblindsided with the financial
struggles that go along withthat and basically when we get
in this line of work so we dowork with insurance, we work
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with insurance companies andcustomers and bridge that gap
state provide a service.
You know it might be 30 daysbefore you get paid yeah and
then we do a government thingand it's a net 45.
So we fund the whole job, labor, materials, materials,
everything, finish it.
They call it net 45.
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As you get paid 45 days later,it might take them five or six
days to process it.
For that time to start.
Speaker 3 (50:24):
And they're not even
starting processing until you
finish it out.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
That's all out of
pocket.
Yeah, this is all out of pocket.
So you got to float all that.
Speaker 5 (50:30):
So all of a sudden,
the busier we got which was
great, like we started thisthing out.
Within a month and a half welanded 135 unit apartment
complex remodel to really likekickstart us Like I don't know
it.
Just we went and had themeeting.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
We got to turn a
profit from that.
Speaker 5 (50:50):
Yeah, yeah, we said
the right things and started out
.
So we're like, hey, we're on agood start.
We started getting these net30s and net 45s and all this
business started kind of comingin.
And then that financial parthit us all of a sudden and I was
like that's the other aspectthat they're talking about.
Yeah, If you can make itthrough this.
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Because all of a sudden it waslike so we did, we completed job
one, two, three, four or five,waiting on the money for it,
needing to start job six andbeing able to, you know, balance
that out and being able to fundprogression on these other jobs
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all of a sudden became tough.
And it wasn't because weweren't getting the work or
weren't making money off of thejobs.
It's just like the timelinestarted getting crazy there.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
So you got to have a
lot of like in-pocket funds,
funds man, you had, like I said,we came from nowhere you got a
plan, so that part was you gotthat part was a little tough,
but I think, uh, you gottajuggle I guess you could say you
gotta juggle, have you went outand got
Speaker 3 (51:56):
any business loans uh
, no, no, so we just this house
we've muscled through this and Ithink we're.
Speaker 5 (52:04):
we're just about to
the part of stability where,
like things like that, aren'tgoing to be such a struggle
anymore, and so that you knowthat growing pain there, I think
we may.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
But you need to be
proud of yourselves, bro,
because a lot of businessesdon't accomplish what you've
accomplished already withoutowing money to people.
No, for sure, as far as takingout loans and things like that
man.
Speaker 3 (52:31):
that's an
accomplishment in itself bro,
it's been a struggle, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:37):
You're always going
to struggle the first few years
of business If you're not asfinancial because you're putting
a lot of your own money into it, especially if you don't want
creditors and you don't want toowe people this and that you
know what I mean.
And if you want to grow yeah,you know you want to grow.
Speaker 5 (52:51):
I mean sometimes you
know your first money is.
I mean it's back into thecompany for a future growth and
for a better position in thefuture.
You know we don't want to be ahandyman service.
You know we don't want to be ahandyman service.
No, that's not what we werelooking for.
We did not want to do that youknow.
Speaker 3 (53:06):
We want to completely
stay away from that.
Like we've got a billboard, youknow, and down on one of the
highways, no shit you know, like, we reinvest in marketing and
advertising, and I think we'vegot almost to the point where
now we're a known name.
Speaker 2 (53:23):
That's good man.
Congratulations the point wherenow we're a known name that's
good man, congratulations.
Speaker 3 (53:26):
That's good, and
that's all, just one piece of it
yeah you know like thefinancial part is one piece of
the puzzle and the next partthat you need to figure out is
your employees.
Yes, that's so.
If you get, say, you got fivegreat guys, but then you get
they're all on these work jobswhere you got three more jobs
coming up, who's working thosejobs and so managing those guys?
So you got 20 guys working foryou.
(53:47):
Well then, all of a sudden, youcomplete four jobs.
You have 20 guys.
What do you do to keep those 20guys?
Speaker 5 (53:55):
yeah, so it's like 20
guys busy.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
I mean you're, you're
talking, you're talking a lot
of work, yeah, and it doesn'talways stay consistent, but you
don't want them to leave and gowork for somebody else, because
that might be one of the bestguys you have and it's just a
constant, like crazy battle.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
One thing I've
learned, man, I always tell
startup businesses andbusinesses that are coming up is
one thing for sure is fuckingget an accountant.
You know what I'm saying.
Have somebody do the books thatyou don't touch, because it's
always a struggle.
You know what I mean,especially if I'm looking I
spend money, bro, I spend, Ispend too much fucking money and
(54:31):
I shouldn't.
I see something shiny and I'mlike, oh, I want to get it you
know it's for the company youknow, you know, or whatever.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
So, yeah, that's
definitely something I recommend
to everybody one cool thing Ithink we do do good at and I
really think, if you, if anyone,I was telling Sergeant Sands
this other day and he was sayinghe was going to work, he just
got this job I said, man, youneed to start your own company.
Like you were a fantasticleader.
Speaker 2 (54:57):
You have all these
skills.
Speaker 3 (54:58):
He was one of the
good ones.
Yeah, you could be a good one,and so I think omar he's.
He's exactly the same in thisaspect, like the way we treat
our employees or I don't evencall them our employees, the
guys we work with the way wetreat them and like, take care
of them, and like I think thathas a lot to do with our success
too, absolutely because thoseguys care they don't want to let
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us down now.
Speaker 5 (55:24):
Now they want to do
good.
They want to do good for us.
Yeah, it's back to that.
You know, at the end of the dayit's all about a paycheck.
But if you're treating theseguys right, they know a
paycheck's inevitable right.
If you know should be right,yeah, but they don't want to.
It's not not just for that.
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They begin to take a pride inwhat they're doing, because they
also want to do good for us,because we just do good for them
.
Speaker 2 (55:51):
Yeah, that's what
it's about, man.
That's definitely what it'sabout.
Speaker 4 (55:56):
What are we going to
do for dinner?
Speaker 2 (55:59):
Barbecue.
Speaker 4 (56:00):
Barbecue.
Speaker 2 (56:01):
Yeah, I'm going to
take y'all down over here down
the street there's a goodBarbecue restaurant Called
Killin's Barbecue Killin'sKillin's.
Speaker 4 (56:08):
Killin's yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:10):
Ronnie Killin.
He does some, some barbecue outhere.
Man, I'm excited to take youguys Over there.
We can check it out.
Speaker 3 (56:17):
So, me and Omar,
we've got we might be starting
Something new.
I'm not even going to say whatit is, but we might have got a
new venture On top of what wegot here.
We got a new thing.
In the next week we'll know,and if we get into that that'll
be a pretty big game changer asfar as a new business deal.
We got going on too.
Speaker 2 (56:38):
That's what's up.
Man J-Train, tell me some ofthe things you learned so far.
Man, with this business venturecoming up, you good bro, yeah
no.
Speaker 4 (56:46):
I'm good, I'm good,
I'm good, well, I mean, I
learned a lot.
You know what I mean.
I've been a walking brandmyself.
Speaker 2 (56:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (56:53):
You know what I mean.
So the hardest part for me isthe learning.
The learning curve is justapplying what I already knew to
business.
I mean it's really the samething, but I've learned to put
myself around people that's beenthere and done it, because I
can take constructive criticism,I can take the do's and the
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don'ts, more so the don'ts.
I'm not the guy like, I'm notgoing to listen to you because
you this, this, this, this, this, this no.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
I'm going to sit down
with you.
Speaker 4 (57:26):
I learned from you.
You learned from me.
I learned from him.
I learned from you to becomesuccessful.
That's really all I learned,like, look, you got to put
yourself around people.
That's done.
Been there and done it.
That's what's up.
Speaker 3 (57:41):
I don't like to hear
constructive criticism.
Speaker 2 (57:44):
No, he doesn't you
know what, but I listen to it, I
just don't like to hear it,because I'm mad at myself
already.
I think, well, I do takeconstructive criticism.
I don't know, maybe notnecessarily right, but I take
people coming in and be like youknow what would look tight, or
you know what would look good.
Speaker 5 (58:10):
Or this and this and
this.
So I do do that, but you know,but other than that, I kind of
just do what I want to do WithEric.
You got to disguise thatconstructive criticism in like
I'm pumping you up.
You know, man, you'd be reallygood or kick-ass if you did this
.
Yeah, that's so true, I don'tlike it.
Then he's like oh yeah, yeah, Ibelieve it, you're right, I
would do good if I did that.
Speaker 4 (58:30):
Yeah, that's crazy
though I mean, but we all
different though, yeah.
Speaker 2 (58:38):
You know, we all
different in different ways.
So the way you speak, you everthought about doing anything
along those lines?
Speaker 4 (58:45):
No.
Speaker 2 (58:46):
No.
Speaker 4 (58:47):
I mean it's just,
it's because dude like man this
world right now is soft, youright.
You know what I mean and Idon't like wasting my time.
Speaker 1 (58:56):
Yeah, okay, you know
what I mean Shit I feel you Like
.
Speaker 4 (59:00):
I know, out of seven
billion people in the world,
there's nobody built like meOkay, that's for real shit.
Like at nine dude, I toldmyself I was going pro.
I done that.
Like it took me years to getthere, but I followed my own
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blueprint and all I did was hardwork, pay attention, stay out
of trouble be disciplined,accountable, hold yourself
accountable.
I put all that.
I learned from Michael Jordan,I learned from Magic Johnson, I
learned from Kobe.
Speaker 2 (59:34):
The greats.
Speaker 4 (59:35):
I learned from Shaq.
I learned from Elijah.
Speaker 2 (59:37):
Warren, don't say
LeBron.
Speaker 4 (59:40):
Come on now.
We can't have that man.
Speaker 3 (59:46):
Please not today.
Speaker 4 (59:48):
I'm just saying why
not LeBron?
Speaker 2 (59:50):
Why.
You know what?
I think he's got a.
I think he does a lot for thecommunity and I just think that
honestly, in my opinion, I thinkthat he changed the NBA in a
different way.
Yeah, it's off and I think thathe created that or that
movement.
Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
No, that's the nature
of business.
Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Would LeBron be
LeBron in the 90s?
Speaker 4 (01:00:21):
6'8" 260.
Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Would he be LeBron?
Speaker 4 (01:00:27):
He'll be way better
than LeBron right now.
Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Man, they used to
choke Michael and fucking throw
Kobe against the damn board.
Speaker 4 (01:00:36):
I get that, but we're
talking about a freak of nature
6'8", 260 pounds, pounds,moving the way he move.
Speaker 5 (01:00:48):
Agreed.
I think he would be one of thegreatest, no matter what era.
I don't think he has what likea Kobe Bryant or a Michael
Jordan.
Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
Is he your top?
No, kobe's my top.
Second LeBron Over MJ, over MJ,as long as you didn't go one.
Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
I'm a Kobe.
Bryant Kobe's, my top LeBronover MJ as long as you didn't go
one.
Speaker 4 (01:01:11):
Kobe was the because
I looked at what Kobe done.
He mimicked Michael yeah, yeah,yeah 2.0 oh yeah, with the
asterisk and star so of coursehe's better than Michael to me.
Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Yeah, man.
Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
That's just my
opinion.
Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
No, you're right,
You're right.
I just feel different manbecause I don't know if he could
have the Elijah Wines, theDavid Robinsons, the he dunking
on him.
Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
You think so?
Easy Shaquille O'neal and hisprime no no, no, no, no, I mean,
I'm just.
I mean man, you, man, you can'tbe stupid like we can't.
You can not like lebron, I'mfine with it.
Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
no, I just say that's
the reason I don't like LeBron.
Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
Science is science.
Yeah, that dude is a freak ofnature man.
Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Yeah.
So if he comes out right now hewas to piss hot for steroids
would it be anything different?
Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
No.
Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
He would still say
like he was.
Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
Because steroids
don't make you a better
basketball player.
They don't make you a betterbasketball player.
Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
It don't make you a
stronger player.
No, what's the point ofsteroids?
Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Longevity this is
what they taught him in the NFL
to say Longevity.
Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
He said I plead the
fifth Longevity.
Yeah, okay, okay, he's what 39?
Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
Yeah, and still
putting up numbers, absolutely
that.
Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
You think he'll win
another championship?
Speaker 5 (01:02:45):
No, yeah no.
Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
You know Houston
might take him out this year,
out of the playoffs in general.
Speaker 4 (01:02:52):
I mean it's becoming
a younger league.
I mean he's still got aboutfour or five in it.
Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
What you think about
old Jalen Green.
Speaker 4 (01:02:59):
He's an animal.
Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Yeah, boy.
Speaker 4 (01:03:01):
Yeah, he's an animal,
I like him yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
I'm a fan man.
I think one of my favoriteplayers of all time in the NBA
was Vernon Maxwell.
Speaker 4 (01:03:13):
He locked Jordan ass
up.
Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Yeah, that was one of
my favorite players because he
didn't give a shit.
He was the first.
I'll run into the stands andpunch you in the face, yeah he
locked Jordan ass up.
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
And he talked about
it.
Yeah, every time he wanted, hewanted jordan shit every time,
dude, I still remember that time.
Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
I don't know if you
bet on the super bowl.
Did you bet?
What did you do?
Yeah, I bet on you won, likeit's that well I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
Back then I thought
it was like it was like
seventeen thousand dollars yeahsomething crazy.
Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
I was like what the
crap dude did you win?
I won.
It was when, uh, new y000.
Yeah, something crazy.
I was like what the crap dudeDid you win?
I won.
Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
It was when New York
was in the Super Bowl and
Plaxico Burgs caught that balllike that.
Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
You remember that
when he caught the ball Against
the Patriots?
Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Yeah, and they won.
Yeah, yeah, I put in it waslike 16-1, 17-1, something like
that, and I put in $1,000 on thefucking.
Giants to beat the PatriotsJust because actually my buddy,
billy, told me to do it and Iwas like, all right, cool, I
(01:04:17):
mean, we had the Iraq money.
It was a little different thenDid you pay Billy.
No, I gave Billy my friendshipfor the rest of his life.
Oh, I get it.
You know what I'm saying.
We still there.
He knows what's up, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
Do you remember Chad
Daltrey?
I do, yeah, that dude could.
He was like a freak when itcame to sports.
I always thought he was,because you could be like hey
who, you know what, tell meabout this player.
And it could be some likerandom guy from 1970.
He could tell you the highschool he went to, like his
yardage and the story behindwhere he came from.
Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
Yeah, it was crazy.
Sports run the world.
Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
Yeah, he was a sports
fanatic.
I mean, he is too, billy is too.
Oh, yeah, yeah man, we weretalking about a long time ago,
man, about a long time ago.
Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Man, I was like me
and this dude are going to start
a podcast together.
No, we said a radio show.
This was back in the day,before podcasts was a thing.
And he came over here a couplemonths.
He said man, I'm still waitingon that show.
I said shit, I got it now.
Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
Let's do it, yeah,
for sure yeah, man.
That's what's up bro.
Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
So what do y'all see?
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
Man, give us six
months, you got any events
coming up.
We don't really have none.
I mean, we've got this housewe're doing and we don't really
have anything big coming up.
Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Well, tell me, how
can people find you man?
Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
So check us at
Facebook.
Our websitePatriotConstructionTXus what
else?
Actually, we've got a coupledifferent websites, so we have a
couple different kind of thingslike uh, for different sites,
different advertising.
They have their own littleplatforms and they'll kind of
click funnel it over to ours umfacebook.
Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
We just started
instagram, so that's something
we're gonna kind of pursue yeah,kind of get with the times you
got to man the only thing I wantto do is I don't do tiktok, bro
, because it's just it, my thing.
The only time I watch a TikTokis when my kids send me
something like Dad watch this.
That's it, because that's tooeasy.
Next thing you know well, it'slike YouTube.
Remember YouTube?
Yeah Well, I mean, of coursey'all know YouTube, I still
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watch it.
But like, yeah, me too.
But like I'll start somethingeducational and five o'clock in
the morning and I'm watchingbone fights or some shit.
Speaker 5 (01:06:23):
Yeah, you know what
I'm saying, like, like sucks you
into that, and then it givesyou the same stuff you're
interested in and keep sending.
Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Yeah, I keep watching
.
By the time you realize.
Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
No man, I think, um,
like you know, the the first
full year we had.
We did over a million Good shit.
So I think this year, you know,I'm really excited to see what
we're going to do.
You know, six months from now,holler at me.
Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
Come back in here and
tell me what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Cool man, yeah, you
know.
Besides numbers, man, if youfeel growth in yourself that's
what it's about, bro, oh 100%.
Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
That's all it is.
Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
It ain't all that
number shit and that's cool.
Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
It's a building, what
we've been building, and what's
it called?
Like the atmosphere that you'recreating yeah, I'm looking for
a different word, but like that,like what you've created in
here.
Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
Like the way you feel
when you come in Homey.
Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
I just wanted it to
feel homey.
Yeah, I wanted people to comein here and just feel relaxed,
like it's just me and youtalking we.
Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
I wanted people to
come in here and just relax,
like it's just me and youtalking we ain't doing nothing
else.
We built that same thing withour stuff, where it's like a
group of friends and family.
Yeah, the first day thesecretary came to work we felt
like she'd been there for 10years?
Speaker 5 (01:07:35):
Yeah, no, absolutely.
And just the constant grind and, you know, doing the stuff that
we thought we wanted to do,taking on the jobs that we
didn't so much want to do, andjust going through you know the
pit basically to get the rightgrowth.
You know we're super excited.
It's like next week we'reclosing on a flip house funded
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with the bank that, like all ofthat hard work, put the numbers
into the company that haveallowed us to now begin the
journey with the bank fundingsand get into things that we
think are really cool, to where,now you know we'll take on
projects for you know ourselves,yeah, do new builds from the
ground up for ourselves, versusyou know, working for you know
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so-and-so and so-and-so.
And some of these customers thatwe have are, you know,
absolutely amazing, really greatexperiences, and then some you
know it's a fight, it's kind ofa battle.
Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
Business baby.
It's cool to take ourexperiences and our creativity
and now put them in somethingthat we want to do, because
we've had customers where we'veliterally told them, hey, you
shouldn't do this, and they doit anyway, and then in the end
they're like not happy.
It was like, dude, you have tobe told.
We told you.
Speaker 5 (01:08:55):
We recommended this,
you said no, you know I like
that idea, but you know we wantto spend the amount of money, we
just want to do it this way.
This is going to be suffice forthe goal that we have, and then
in the end, I mean everything,just points out to where it's
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like, maybe not the decision,you know, and then that falls on
us in their eyes, to a certainextent.
Speaker 4 (01:09:21):
It's like.
Speaker 5 (01:09:21):
We tried to guide you
down a path that we thought
would be y'all's greatestsuccess, but at the end of the
day, you know we're working foryou at this point we run into
how to do what you want, becausehow many people are on budgets
you know.
Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
So that's
understandable, but so it's nice
to be able to do it withouthaving to worry about the wrong
decisions being made yeah, youknow, you got to find your
clientele too, man, because whenI started this, my initial
clientele was just whoever.
Speaker 4 (01:09:52):
You know what I'm
saying.
Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
But now it's kind of
different.
My biggest clientele arechurches.
Right, I want to come in hereand create podcasts and things
like that to share their messageto different ages.
That's cool, it's dope, yeah,yeah, ages and and you know it's
dope, yeah, yeah, it just youknow it is, we got people, I got
okay.
So, uh, the different podcastswe have.
We have something coming here,like I told you to talk about
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barbecue and just, we had thechurches.
We have a couple of kids thatcome in here.
I say kids, they're 21, 22years old kids, so like they'll
be out at the club or somethinglike that, and he'll call me but
like, hey, man, can we shoot apodcast?
So yeah, then you know they gota few drinks in them.
They come, they talk abouteverything from entrepreneurship
to women you know what I'msaying so.
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It's just, it's good listening,though.
And then, uh, man, we got abunch of different ones that
come in here, man, so it's dope,you know, and and like, and,
like.
I say, bro, a couple of yearsago I would've been like man,
you crazy I ain't doing no damnpodcast studio.
What is that?
I don't even know what that is.
That's the only one in Maryland, so it's really taking the no.
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No, I don't either, bro.
Speaker 5 (01:11:03):
Yeah, I don't either.
I got one radio show I listento because it's on every morning
when I take my kids to school.
Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
Yeah, Kid Craddock.
That might be the only one Ilisten to.
Speaker 5 (01:11:14):
That's probably it.
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
I'm YouTubing or
music app.
Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
Well, as soon as my
kids get in the cars, like Dad,
dad passed me the auxiliary cord, right, you know, I'm saying
like man we're always talking inthe truck.
Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
Yeah, I mean we don't
.
Speaker 5 (01:11:29):
The radio never comes
on the whole day we're driving
around and we're in the trucklike seven hours a day sometimes
yeah at least five hours a daywe're riding around the truck
and I mean oftentimes thatlittle, those truck rides and
stuff are it's our officemeetings?
Yeah, and it's, it's almost ouronly opportunity to, you know,
plan things out, go over things,bounce ideas, prepare for the
next person we're talking to, goover who we just met with and
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talk to and, you know, analyzethings Because, like you say, in
the beginning, it was just anyjob that came to you.
Good job, good job good job.
Long term.
You realize, not every job's agood job.
Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
You ain't a good fit
for that job or good fit for
that people.
Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
I'll tell you a quick
funny story.
So before I ever met or gotwith Omar, before I ever even
worked for this other guy thatwe worked for together, I wanted
to try to do construction on myown.
No experience.
I had like a screwdriver at myhouse, maybe a hammer.
Was it a craftsman?
I think it was a pink one.
Speaker 4 (01:12:25):
It was my wife's that
she got for Christmas.
Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
Oh yeah, and so the
first job I ever tried to go
land.
Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
No, I'm dead serious.
Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
I know you are, I'm
absolutely serious.
Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
First job I ever went
to land because I put a little
Facebook account, made a littlebusiness name, and I walked in
there and they started asking meall these questions and stuff
and all I did was like, hey,give me one second, let me run
to the truck and grab a pen andpaper.
I walked outside, got my truckand I watched a youtube video
about the sheetrock and stuffthey were talking about because
I didn't know.
I was like I don't even knowwhat they're asking me right now
(01:12:54):
and I was googling stuff and sowhen I went back in there I was
oh yeah, you know, we're gonnatape and float this stuff right
here.
I was faking it till.
I'll make it, man, you got toman I never you're talking about
youtube?
Yeah, I was youtubing shit outin the trunk, bro I still do
that.
Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
Yeah, yeah, I do that
.
We still do that sometimesbecause sometimes there's things
that we run across that we'relike whoa, I don't know when I'm
doing editing, different videoediting and things like that,
bro, and there's a question Ihave, I youtube it.
I'm like yeah, come on, teachme you know what?
Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
I know what I'm
saying.
Imagine if they had YouTubewhen we were kids.
Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
I don't know, man, I
might be in prison.
Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
I don't know yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
I don't know if we
would have wanted that recording
Not been able to handle that?
No, yeah definitely so, man.
Tell us the Beach, jerky, howcan people reach out to you?
How can people reach out?
Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
to you.
How can people find it?
It's on Facebook.
Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
It's on.
Speaker 4 (01:13:47):
Instagram.
Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
It's basically
JavorskiLanecom
J-O-R-V-O-R-S-K-I-E-L-A-N-Ecom,yeah, so y'all be sure to check
it out.
Man, I can vouch for thebarbecue bacon.
It's delicious and I'm notsharing this one with nobody, so
fuck off, absolutely, man.
Hey, it's been great.
Guys, we're going to wrap thisup, man.
Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
Yeah, we enjoyed it.
Thanks for having us.
Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
So we can go have
dinner, you guys.
Man, thank you as always fortuning in.
Be sure to like, share,subscribe, follow.
Be sure to check my guys out,man at uh patriot
constructioncom txus there yougo and then check out.
Uh j train say, say yourwebsite one more time
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javorskylanecom yeah, englishwas my second language, bro.
No, it wasn't.
I don't know spanish so youguys yeah, me neither.
Yeah, okay, how about you?
Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
man, we're trying to
learn, that's one thing I wish
we would learn.
Speaker 2 (01:14:54):
Yeah, I can imagine
especially in that that much
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