A new efficient way to isolate rare earths was discovered at UT. A very necessary move foward in light of our recent clash with China.
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Welcome to our newest episode in this episode we will have the diesel uncut
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With it garrison brothers single barrel. Okay
You're hanging out with Bill and Darrell with cigars liquor and more
All right the diesel uncut is a six and a half by 52
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blended by AJ Fernandez
It has a pencil vanian broadleaf wrapper with Nicaraguan binder and filler. Oh
MSRP 550
550
$50 cents the garrison brothers single barrel is bottled at 94 proof
And it is yet another
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Total wine and more pick and its SRP is 99 but here's what's funny
Don't know why they were clearing it off the shelves. I got it for 65
Still of a deal man. Yeah, still of a deal
Yeah, so I was looking at those legs. I mean, it's it's really dark
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It's a really dark three years old. Oh, yeah, it's three years age stated on the side of the box
Yeah, and those things run fast. So it didn't seem like it was high high proof, right?
And then you say 94 it's like yep, that makes sense
Okay, now this is very characteristic of a garrison brothers. Okay, so the nose
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Yeah, I wish did the nose is uh, the nose has got a lot of wood
But it's got a characteristic wood that reminds me of like a corny wood
You know, I mean it comes off a little corny. Yeah, I get where you're going
I'll pick it up what you're putting down. Oh, that smells so good. This smells so good
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Hmm, I love this nose
Also corny on the palate sure. There's not a licorice aroma to it. Mm-hmm
Yeah, I normally pick up a lot of licorice. I didn't get that this go. Did you
Or you just messing with me? I was messing with it
It
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Hented of it. Okay, for a moment. That's why because I know you don't like
liqueur
I like it and very very very very. I'm not sure how many varies it is. Is each very attended a minus three engineering style or is it just one or
I'm gonna go with that. Yeah, okay
I like small amounts so
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So we're talking less than a millimeter every 20 years
It's something like that
Yeah, I think it's a it's pretty corny on the palate and then it brings it's got a long finish though. I like the long finish
It hangs around I like that wooden corn
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That's what I got wood and corn
There's something else there. I'm just not nailing it down
I'm telling you
There's something else. There's only something else there. I'm not a sommelier
Smells great though
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Okay, you know what I'm gonna say
Cinnamon it's just something creamy like almost like a butterscotch
I want to say butterscotch. Yeah, yeah creamy
Yes creamy
I'm going I like that that's a good that's a good way of describing that yeah
I mean, it's not a strong butterscotch, but it's kind of butterscotch-y
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I like that. I'm going with that
Hmm lovely
So whoever wrote this article is definitely not from Texas
Oh
You're skipping ahead
Sorry cheaters. Sorry
No, I like the title no problem. I hear you
Okay, so we we're gonna be talking a lot more we thought we were talking a lot about rares before now
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We're gonna talk even more now. There's embargo. Yeah
Oh before we talk about anything like that I need to correct a little bit too
Yeah, so so this diesel and cut at a close-foot and I just wanted to try to like the wrapper and see if that would be good enough to lie
Yeah, I want
Pull on it really hard because I wouldn't get hot, you know, yeah
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And um when you when you do just light a closed foot
What tends to do is it runs down the side that was folded from
Yes, and that's what this did and so I had to do a touch-up on the side that it ran to
um and and and there you go yet another reason why I'm not a huge fan of the closed foot
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And I don't know why I am but I I like the closed foot
I think you know what I think I like
Did you get a wrapper at the front you get a lot of wrapper so you get a lot of wrapper flavor
In in the light. Oh
Maybe maybe you could peel it back some and ease your lighting
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No, because it's not gonna help your lighting. Oh, you could do a swoop of those and make a little spiral thing
Make a little ponytail at the top the pigtail. Yeah, and like that does
I didn't know to aid anything
I
It is an extra little step. I do appreciate the extra little steps. Thank you
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As long as it's not a foot band. I do appreciate the extra little steps including box presses and you know
The perfecto shapes and I love that that's my favorite. I do appreciate these things
But some things I just think are really non-value added you may like a foot band. I like foot band
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Like make me do something before I like my light your cigar. That's just seems wrong to me. Okay
Just I get that. I'm not a huge fan of the foot band, too
Okay
So anyway, yes
now
This cigar has such a
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Simple smooth draw
I mean there is nothing impeding this draw at all
Okay, I don't have a super light draw. I think I have an ideal draw
You think it you're describing a super light draw. I am okay. I think mine it's it's lighter than medium
But it's it's a great draw. I like this draw
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The thing that I
Don't particularly care for when it comes to really really light draws
Is I tend I tend to make it over warm. Yeah, make it too hot burn it fast
More sitting. Yeah, yeah, I don't want that so
That's
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Try to mention these things. Yeah, oh
I yeah, well we're supposed to mention those things, but I'm glad I'm glad you don't yeah true enough
But I'm glad you don't because you know
It says there's hope
I think I have the perfect draw
Perfect draw also
This is a great flavor. So we're we're a good quarter-half inch in and it lit up real easy
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No settling in as a great flavor right off the bat. So
They so I've been talking on it without drinking the the garrison brothers and
It's it's kind of really there's a there's a of wood component to it. That's really nice. What's the for what's the forward?
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Yeah, and it's an aromatic wood. Yeah, it's like a cedar. Yeah, like it. Yeah, but not yeah, it's not cedar. It's like a cedar
Yeah, it's an aromatic wood. It's very nice. Really really nice. Yeah
Uh
Now the retrohail is like a sharp fireplace wood. So it's it's not peppery, but it is like a like it's not a great
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Retrohail wood it's it's kind of rough
But
Happy and said not quite I'm still I'm still retrohailing not not quite breathing directly from the campfire right not far from it
Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I I'm I'm with you on that one
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But wood an aromatic wood being the forward flavor and then it lands way back in the finish
Some baking spices
Which I like. I'm you know, I'm a big baking person itself
Lovely. Are you do you get you get any hint at all of like a almost a musty
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No, just just a just a I wish just a touch. No, I'm not just a just a touch
Now maybe later
Think about it. I will
No, you don't want to get a hit in the concentrate. You know what you know what hint I get in the finish long finish. What's it? Uh paper
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I get a little paper
Can't argue with that
It does it does actually have a long finish actually a point
You know, it's kind of
It's kind of odd. I've never notated it down
Maybe I should I've never notated it down, but
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Uh
You know, the the long finishes tend to be more bold and dark, right? Uh-huh or typical right
This one
Not really that bold not really that dark
But it does have a long finish. It's a little darker than a Colorado
But not much. Yeah, it's not like I'm not talking about color. I'm talking about flavor. Oh, I
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When you said dark, I think I'm at the rapper
Yeah, my bad
But you get where I'm going. Yeah. Yeah
Anyway
Yeah, I like this. I like this guy. This is a good song. Yeah
Now the drink draw I like I like the corn
You put the corn with the cigar the wood. It's a nice combo
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Now would say it does help the cigar
I
Corn and wood is whiskey
Or bourbon technically right
right
Right um, I like the drink draw. I don't know that the cigar helps the liquor though
So unfortunately not a premium repairing, but um
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Definitely the nice combo
It doesn't stay out of the way. It I think it helps the cigar. I think it adds a little
Little sweetness to the cigar. It does
Especially in the finish
I like it
It's gonna be a good day
It is
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Good song
As a good song
Oh
All right
Just saying as we speak
The last easy you got your feet propped up
Yeah, dude you do too. Yes, I do don't act like I'm doing my feet propped up
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I'm giving a little touch up. I've still got one side that's burning a little slower
Yeah, well once I hit the edge because it didn't catch the edge of the rapper with the you know close
But then once I hit that now I'm good. It evened out it caught up with the other side defines what you hope for yeah
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I mean really it is
So what's funny is I we hadn't done diesels in a long time it'd been a couple years
We mentioned it when we did the diesel original. Yep, but after doing the diesel original
I'm like I'm going back to the tragedy. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna hit more diesels
We do bored in bad boys. Yeah, and I was like well, let's let's revisit this because we have been
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Diesel shot. Yeah, well, well, you know, we've been doing this is 2019
That's a lot of years as a last guard. I mean the year this this garrison brothers came in
The year the year this garrison brothers will be bottled
Or distilled. Sorry distilled distilled. Yeah, so
We got
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A giant gap in in diesels, right? Honestly, honestly, yeah, big gap of diesels
Yeah, and after hitting that diesel original like no, no, no, we got a we're gonna revisit this and so I picked up
A variety of the ones and I say that I think the uncut my favorite
Hmm. Yeah, because I I did preview this before we had an on show
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I gave you a couple, but again, you've been slammed at work. Yeah, so
I haven't had the to take my recommendations. Yep, but um I
I think this is
Probably my new favorite diesel
Even even more than the original which man we had it. I was like, oh my god the diesel original. Oh, we've forgotten this
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So many years
Which we had we had we had and it was sad
That's true, but I mean think about it. We there's so many
Yes
We've set up before the heyday hmm of both cigars and liquor
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Yeah
Because I didn't realize what Fernandez blended this talk about sticking to landed when I am
A.J. He's just still on fire. Yeah, he's just so awesome
Still off I have because I don't know what year he blended this maybe he blended this three years ago and
Hey day of his being on fire. Yeah
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He'll be
Could be but I
Doesn't matter. Oh, so good
Well done if it's got a JJ fits got a J by the name you almost can't go wrong
You should at least try it even if it's wrong for you
Yeah, it's worth a try because he's done good stuff with a lot of other
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Companies besides his own. He's a great
Oh, yeah feature a laboratory. Yeah, he's a great feature artist like yeah, so many
Rap stars will do now you get a feature you got something better song and you go hey, how come they don't more of that?
Well, they they do now
Well, I think this is a guard companies are doing that now too. They you know age is not the only one who features
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No, no, there's a lot of them. They're they're across. Yes
Mm-hmm lovely lovely lovely
All right, man. That's another one. I haven't I've been I've been garrison brothers. I don't know either
It has been yeah, quite a while
Hmm
All right, do you want to jump into that rare earth? Mm-hmm. All right
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I heard I really really meant extraction breakthrough could boost US's
position critical tech
Good good title
Yeah, I picked this up from MSN
Rare earth element sort of backbone of events technologies. You know this if you listen to us at all. That's right
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I'm skipping some of it Minesh Kumar for our University of Texas at Austin. Oh, this was this was my first comment
Obviously the person that wrote this not from Texas
Okay
Because you just said UT for you TA
Well, I think they're publishing information. Not just Texans you Texas
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Mm-hmm get out of here
Kumar is going to develop the special artificial membrane channel that can overcome the problem and make
REEs, which is short for the the rare earth elements. Yep more accessible than ever and here
How that emission works?
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membrane channel inspired by transport proteins
Human body cells have special proteins that only allows our nions to pass through while blocking others
We paid attention to nature. Oh, we've done that a lot
ah
And this inspired them to make membranes to do the isolation of these which
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Isolate isolation of the rare earths is the problem not finding them in the ground. They're all over in the ground
But they're really hard to isolate and really expensive and
Very low percentages. So this is you know, this is why they're rare. They're not actually all that rare
They're not rare in quantity. Yeah, they're rare in quality
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Yep
The artificial channels are small pores made of modified versions of
Pillar a rene a ring shaped molecule that can selectively bind and
Release other molecules only specific ions can move through each pore and the pore is the ring size
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So you can segregate
What you're looking for based on size? That's that's why this particular thing
Is being used interesting yeah in this case the artificial channel selectivity transports ions from the rare earth element
Turbium eropium and restricts the movements of regular ions like calcium and potassium
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So that's a huge
difference because
Calcium potassium very common
And getting the way of a lot of things
So
So when they tested this in the lab
The channels showed that they were able to choose rare earth elements
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Up to 40 times better selectivity
That's really great
They could let through for instance
Eropium while blocking other similar ones like lanthanum and uterbium which are also rare elements
But when you want to isolate one from the other that's important too
Calcium and potassium and you know a lot of those other ones so even all the other ones in that same kind of column
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Yeah, they're tough
But you you've also got to get them away from each other which is even even closer in size because they're they're all big
They're all the big ones at the bottom so much uh bottom of the periodic table
I mean yeah so much similarity
So that's super cool
40 times that that's a huge
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That's very expensive
To to separate these things and they've made it much easier
So this is a big deal because normally the chemical extraction methods require many steps harsh solvents
and every time you go through a step you lose
yield
Absolutely, so that is why cutting down the steps is so important
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Though these selectivity levels are sitting higher than those achieved by traditional solvent based methods
They're required dozens of stages to achieve similar results
so
That is the key because you lose yield at each stage
And so when you do dozens of stages to get to that concentration and this you're doing it in one step
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Major advantage major cost reduction major time reduction all that right beautiful
You absolutely and right here at UT and right here in Texas baby right so we don't have to
Get this from Europe or Switzerland or some other you know
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London or some other university right right here. No, can I say it this way?
Hmm for this Texas is the country of origin
Great
Researchers further confirmed these results through computer simulations
Proving the artificial membranes have the potential to revolutionize rare earth extraction
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Moreover simulations revealed that the artificial channels were able to effectively select
REE ions because water molecules arranged around these ions differently
This is awesome. That's weird
But cool um, so you read my doctoral thesis
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But my master's thesis I actually used rare earths a lot of them. Oh did you yeah, so I was putting them
Now I was putting them in structures for different reasons. I wasn't using their
Chemical capability. I was using their size to basically freeze ligands and do certain structures so that we could
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Um isolate where particular atoms were in the structure through NMR
It's all not actually all that interesting
It was it was more about
Proving simulation
Could demonstrate the location of an atom in a molecule and these large ligands in these
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um bound structures
With small radii differences were able to help do that. That's that's all
I was just using the radii. It was just because they were big
but
I've worked with them
And they are a bite in the ass and they are expensive
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Now not a surprise
Reports suggest that the demand for rare earth elements could surge by more than
26
percent in the next 10 years, but that's that's just because we are all about electronics and all these go into electronics
Which is why the embargo china against us is not good
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Which is why they did it which is why they did it which is why they were cornering the market because they knew this was coming
Yep, and we knew this was coming. Oh, they've been an economic war for what does for since the 60 years yeah
Wow since we opened them since we opened above mm-hmm
So all the quantum computing advanced semiconductors green energy all these rely on the heavy
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transition metals and
lanternides
Not actinides, you know those are mostly radioactive, but every it's great bit of it every bit of every bit of it is dependent on those
Magnets and for this is neodymium in magnets. This is huge. You can't do magnets about neodymium. Nope
they're
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these things are
critical
national security type they are yep
so
Now this
This is good news. This is this is great research. Yes
When can we get it into production?
The study authors also love asking that question
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Tannels in the scalable system suitable for industrial use
For this purpose. They're developing a platform that will enable them the transport ions of both our ease and critical elements such as lithium
and nickel etc
Lithium is right next to the lanternides. It's it's largely considered a lanternite in fact
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scandium is good and considered a lanternite even though it's not did not know any of that. Yeah
Well, now you do. I'm not the chemist you are. Yeah
So
On that note, let's take a little break. Cool
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All right, let's hit the midpoint you know
So during the break we were talking about the uh we were talking about the garrison brothers
and my comment was
I
It's it's heavy
And I asked Darryl I said you know what I mean by that and Darryl said
As you take a drink. Yeah, I said I will I think I don't know I guess you could probably look it up
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But my feeling is this is a rich heavy
oily type that is not a column still. It's likely a pot still
And that's my guess and that's how it comes off and this this makes complete sense to me. I
I'm going with it. Hmm. I'm going with it. This this makes sense
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And this is why I like pot stills. I like the rich creamy heavy drink. Yeah
I
It's been a while since I've had garrison brothers. I don't remember them being that way
Okay, but it's been a while. Yeah, so I kind of surprised me a little bit
Yeah, but I'm not a bad way. I should look it up. I should look it up. I don't know
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But that would be my guess because I don't think you get something
this rich out of a column still
and
This really is
Nicely done bottle. It's got this silver band that goes all the way around very ornate bottle great great star
Ornamentation on the star
The wax coming down just right. It comes all the way out of the shoulders of the bottle. Yeah, it's just very very well done
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They did not skimp on the wax. No, no, they didn't and there's there's engraving all over the bottle
Yeah, the the year and the barrel number and the bottle number look like their hand printed even if they're not
It looks like somebody drew it in with a silver sharpie
There's another metal band around the middle and a metal plaque on the front. It says hey, I'm from total line
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And as always the garrison star is a metal star on the front
It's a very ornate bottle. They're not messing around with their bottle and the the the motto
Uh, good burbing can change the world. Mm-hmm. You can change the world just so so nice
Uh
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Transitioning over to the diesel. Mm-hmm. We didn't talk about this band
Oh, I do like this band at the the band is I mean, it's it's a dark brown a light brown and a tan and a gold
Enigold all mixed together. Yeah, but but where it bond is cool. Yes, it is
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But where where it peels up just a little bit
It's got that nice nice scalping on it. Mm-hmm. It you know right with the the little floor thing is. Yeah, it's got a little
Not exactly not a floor at least, but something flowery like that. Yeah, it's it's all flowers around the the script D
Yeah, it's just it's
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And it's not the exact diesel you did, but very well done. Yeah, yeah, I was gorgeous
And it's not the exact diesel script. It's like a variation of it
Which just says I'm a little bit different than the rest of these all right. It's uncut
Yeah
So the the
Construction is top notch. I'm not having any problem. You know, it's concerned about the light draw. Mm-hmm
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I haven't had any problems with it. It's not smoking super fast on you. No
But I I have been purposely not going
normal
But I okay, I haven't been really I haven't been hitting the brakes that much
so
I this is one of those kind of side guys. I have a hard time hitting the brakes on because
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I really am enjoying this again
You said it before. Well say what you mentioned about the wood
I really really like this wood. It's just it's so
It's just it's beautiful. It's just got a beautiful flavor to it. It's a very nice wood flavor
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Yes, aromatic, but not cedar aromatic, but it is an aromatic wood just so so nice
And you don't get that
That often at least not the scars we get
Right. Yeah, I don't get a whole bunch of you get a few of these get a few like it. We get a few
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So it's it's really nice when you get a hold of one it is and this is like I said probably my favorite diesel now
I couldn't you can see why yeah, I definitely see why all but that original set it off
I probably wouldn't have been hunting
If that these original hadn't set me on the path
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And diesel original is pretty top notch really is
All right, anything to add have you done the the comb I haven't done the combo. I haven't thought about the combo
Yeah, I wanted to well, I did say earlier that I liked have a the corn add as we just do it. That's right
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But I don't think the draw drink changes the liquor any
It's just it's just it's such a strong liquor the
Now that you've said oily I'm gonna go with that the oiliness of this garrison
Kind of it does compliments
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The aromatic wood
I think so they don't
They're not staying out of each other's way
But the liquor is helping the cigar so yeah, and it's not a primo pairing because I don't think the cigar
touches the liquor right, but I do think I like it better with the the drink draw. Yes. Yeah, yeah, I like it
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Sweet, it's a wonderful day. When when when yes
When all around ah lovely great great great midpoint
All right
There's not too much left in the article, but I will point out that it is in the journal of ACS nano
So you can find the study published not that a lot of people are going to run out to the library
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Like oh, I got to check out ACS nano
But just FYI, you know, it's there. They published it. Yeah, it's not just a
I'm up front, you know
Puff piece that somebody wrote saying hey, we could do this
They it was good enough to publish. No, they didn't study on it. Yeah. Yeah
sweet
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These are the kind of advancements that are just
Not only timely
But it's just awesome for mankind overall and it is it cannot be more timely. Yeah, we really need
So now we have
Aerogels that can isolate individual metals gold and we and well eventually that not eventually probably right after gold in fact probably before gold
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Okay
Well, it won't be before gold because there's a lot more gold and electronics than there is to wear earth elements, but
The rare earth elements are actually worth more than gold. I don't know if you know that. Yeah, but they sell for a lot more
Uh, in their pure form. So, you know
You actually they normally come as chlorides that that's how I always got them
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So you but you couldn't had a better time
We're ramping electronics
We need to find a way to recycle our electronics and we need to be able to make more electronics and
These two that I put back to back not by accident
Our key to that kind of advancement in technology that makes all this possible
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You know, you know how our parents were
You know that they were on
You know, they saw the
You know, the space race and the coming up of technology right right through that era and
Uh, you know, but in our lifetimes we have seen
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Oh, just leave some bounds. Oh my god. No, the top of that
And I mean when when we were kids you had maybe you know two plugs in a living room, right now you need you need four or five plugs
In a living room
You know the double socket plugs right because everything you touch now
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Requires electricity
We we had a lot more mechanical things growing up than we did electronic things growing up right
Whereas your kids
All electronics very little mechanical right. I don't think they press an actual button anymore
Everything's in virtual button or wind anything up
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Uh, right or or or or like like the little cards you pull backwards
Actual spring what he's put a battery in that
But I just I mean
Just think of the amazing things that that when your kids are our age
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What they'll be witnessing
They'll be in the matrix. No
We already are
Oh, we're gonna run to it. We're gonna whole hardly embraces. The one mistake that the matrix made is that we will try to wake up from it
We're definitely not gonna try to wake up from it
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We're gonna run to it so fast
It's the only way to achieve utopia
We'll have people not interact with each other and hurt each other
Ah
People will still hurt each other
And we've seen that we see that already right the online bullying crap
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Right
People are rich people will hurt each other even if they're not physically hurting them. Yeah
Yeah, I mean eventually we'll just be interacting with virtual
Yeah, um
You know inorganic intelligence and uh
Won't be hurting people anymore
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Till they decide we're you know more pets or slaves than anything else and then they will be early imagine pets
We're still gonna be a curiosity
Something described for yeah, no
Something to study
I was being nice
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Ah
It's just
boggles the mind
how far we come oh
Yeah, yeah, it was only
10 years ago that
They were saying everyone should learn to code
And now AI is like doing a lot of coding and
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That's gonna be one of the first
Jobs that falls by the wayside you have to learn how to
create
and and manage
AI AI agents. Yeah
You know
You have to work on the metric span. I think the next skill that needs to be developed is how to search with
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a
With the the LLM's because I remember
When I was doing my degree and
One of the skills that I developed and set
My
Whatever generation of students ahead was learning how to search in google or just online
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It could have been jives. It could have been dog pile. It's still ducked up go for me
I like duck duck go
But I remember jives. Yeah, yeah, but like
Knowing how to search but really critical just about everyone's first one was aol
Yeah, yeah, yeah
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Of course, yeah, and that's capable is everybody's first real browser. Yep, but like
I think the next is not learning no knowing understanding out of search
Like a like a google search. It's going to be how to pose questions and develop
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Because what I've noticed when I work with the LLM's
You have to work step by step and explain things you can't just say
Build me a platform you have to say what's this what's that do this can you do that and it's like sculpting from the ground up
Your ultimate search and that's going to be the real skill in the future you start with a base
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Right, you start with a base response base question
And then you you ask tweaking question. Yeah, you have to be simple. You have to start simple. Yes, and then move up because
Because I like imagine if you just approached a some captain of industry
You you went to
Whatever a baseless and you said how do you start a company? He's gonna be like
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I don't even know that's just too big of a question
You have to start
little and work
Little questions to to sculpt
You're the answer you're looking for. Yes, and you're going to have to do that
And learn how to do that with the LLM's now a lot of people are like
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All right me, uh, you know to page paper about the Peloponnesian war and then they printed off and turn it in right that's that's
so
Not there
That's the that's turning in a copy of the cliff notes, right? Yes. That's not the same. So
sculpting your
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Your goal with an LLM like a person
Is going to be the skill of the future. That's the skill is to build things in an LLM in in a
electronic system, right? It's not just searching like we had to learn
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But was a skill when we learned it like it put us. Oh absolutely. If you had if you understood it absolutely
So let me ask you. Okay, so first. I'm going to state an observation
Cool my own personal observation. That's all we have and then I'm going to ask you a question. Hmm
all right, so
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I would say over the past
decade
Communication skills language skills. Yeah, they've suffered. Yeah, you're right. I know where you're going. Yeah have
diminished especially
Going from a college environment to a professional environment
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Do you think that working more with LLM's
Those language skills might become better
Yeah, so I didn't know that's where you got pivot it
I think our language skills and our interaction when people have been harmed by our online work
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Specifically texting but we haven't
worked with LLM's like we will in the future and when we start to do that
I think the people who redevelop
Their language skills
Will be the successful ones because you have to do that with an LLM
Yeah, I would
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Let's see where you're going. I agree
But it's going to take a while. I hope
Yeah, yeah, I want to say a while 10 years should do it
Honestly, I have no idea what's going to happen in 10 years. It's going to be so insane. I can't even
Exactly forecast five. It's crazy
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So I alluded to AI agents previously. Yeah
That's
Something else that is gonna be is just gonna explode that I think is going to explode in
Just about every workforce. That's exploding now. It it is but it's well
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It's not exploding. It's flaming up. I just got some licorice in the garrison
Uh see man see I wasn't
Weird. I was not lying. Hey came out that came out of a draw draw drink
Got to be careful got to be careful of those. Yeah
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All right, go on. Sorry. That's just stunned me. I'm like what I wouldn't necessarily say that that's exploding right now
I would say that that it it's coming more to the forefront. Mm-hmm
But I think over the next five years
Uh, you're going to you're going to start seeing positions that are
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specifically for
Generating AI agents to perform tasks to make these
Machine learning and large language model
Apparatuses. Yeah, be able to interface with existing systems
Apparatuses, right? Apparatize. Apparatize
Are there any other? I think I sound better
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I think so. Yeah, no, I'd agree. I'd agree with that because I mean right now we're still we're still kind of in a we're still kind of in a playing phase, right? What what
What can work? What can we do with it? How can we interface with things that we have? I mean
If you have unstructured data
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Freak and fabulous at that
But when you have to touch structured data
specifically
Data where
Depending upon the discipline that you're touching
The language changes
Can mean this it can be the same thing
But be called something different
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Right, yeah, you need and you don't have the the
Massive for a of unstructured documents
To help you figure it out. Why is it that I feel like my company's always going to be a
Organizing data is powerful what I do. It's just unbelievable. Like and we put this together. Oh my god
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No, the
I think
When we get
Synergistic with
Tell them
We will we'll go even faster than we're going now
Yeah, the the the metrics you matrix used to
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That you have to
The model sorry the model that you used that you the model you have to train in order to get
Get it going in the right direction so that produces correct results mostly correct results
Those
People are figuring out really really fast. Yeah, they need to because that the
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As they call them hallucinations
They're getting worse that the more data we put into them the worse they get. Oh the more we have to figure out why
But the more dimensions you throw at
of
Inorganic intelligence
Well, no, it's it's a matrix structure
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Which is where the dimensions come from mm-hmm right the the the more dimensions you give
The more likely you are to have those hallucinations or end up in a wrong pool
That that's why that's why training is so important
But we've we've gotten to the point now to where
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Training is pretty habitual now. We we unders we we understand it. We're pretty good with it
And once we figure it out we can package it and we can say hey, here's this model use this
Well, I think it needs guidance because right now we're just letting it go on its own and it's kind of a mess like the early internet was
Before we started to organize it and get
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Keywords and search and we'll get there and and just like programming languages
They will eventually start to merge and be more like yeah be more like one or another
But it it will take a little bit, but we'll get there, but it's the
The AI agents that allow you to
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Interface that with other things I
I think is going to be
Really where the bread and butter's at
Yeah, I mean I think we we've got always to go
But I think at the speed at which we're going we'll get there sooner than you think
I
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Eight years or less
Really, yeah, I think so too. It's so fast
especially if
We find a way to make them stable enough that we can add a programming language
To a quantum computer
When we get that it's going to be the bang
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But I you know python is the is the language of choice for today
But you know that that it's already 30 years old you had
You had
I can't tell you how big pearl was 20 years ago. Yeah
And
And now nobody knows pearl
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Yeah, but was pearl what's gonna happen
With python
Well, that's the thing I think pivans had more staying power than most of the languages though
For broad use like you go staying power. You go well, you know, Unix has the most thing back
You know, yeah, yeah, but not on a broad use it's it's Unix is in a programming language. It's just well
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Okay, so it's a system. Yeah, I'm thinking something more like
I see
Yep, the see hasn't had the staying power that python has
Yet it has
Well, it's still around
Not in the volume I think pivans had the higher volume for a longer period of time. Yeah compared to other languages
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I mean nothing ever dies people still use vb
db
Pascal four tram right still runs the world cobalt but they're not cobalt and four trains still run the world but they're but they're
They're what a volume of use
Didn't have they were at one pint larger volume and other much smaller volume
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python has been a larger volume for a longer time. I feel yeah, but just like c plus plus or planted c quite a bit
and was more
but
Easier for people to catch on to than c was
Something like that is going to happen to python it will evolve absolutely
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What's that gonna be?
It's not iron python. No, no, it is done
We ate that land
ate that language
well
iron python is
python
That talks well with
Dot net
Yeah, and there's been no development since two points up
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I been I hated I hated
I have to do it first by far and I hate it
It's all right
Yeah, I should rate these things
We absolutely should
Okay, let's see
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That's just not right
Just not right
All right
You're this hang on a moment. Yep
Yeah, it's just not right
All right, all right here you go
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All right, I'm gonna lead off here. Please
Um
Although I got to find it
Yeah, I scrolled it to the bottom. Yeah, you had to go find it
Hey, then
Interesting
I know right
All right, we breached the top five
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So Darryl put the garrison brother's single barrel
In the number four slots right below the balcony is lineage and just above
The Russell reserves single barrel
Ooh nice positioning that is how much I like the lineage that is that says something actually that says some of the lineage
This is a really great bottle
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It is a good bottle
Yeah, wow, okay
So just how do you feel about that um
I think I might put it right below the rustles instead of above it, but same area same area yeah, you were close then okay
Um
So top five Russell reserves this garrison brothers balcony is lineage 1845 pre-empts and reverence cast and still number one
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Remus volume eight
All right, well
Bill put the diesel uncut a little bit lower than I would have, but he still put it in the number nine position
He put it above the diesel
I did put it above the diesel region but below the rocky Patel LB1
Which I would also know came in below the particles heritage
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So
That was my that was the so
Yes, I put it above the diesel original
That LB1
I did I
Really wanted to put it above it. Mm-hmm, but I just couldn't okay. I just I
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I don't know you really like that LB1 then I died I did I really did
So but the big surprise for me was that I put it above the these this one above the diesel original
Yeah, because I really really enjoyed that diesel original I did do
Uh
What this brings to the table is something that
Well, we have noted we we do have occasionally
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That that nice aromatic would right
Uh, we do have occasionally don't have that often
And when you do it it does tend to pop up a little bit. Yeah, so because you know you mean you have it
You're like oh nice nice nice
So there you go, but what's extra notable
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Is that a primary wood flavor beat out an earth flavor at yes, yes, that is unique for you that that was that was also an interesting thing going through the list
Um
Because you know
If you were going to rate it that way
Or group it that way it would have been a little bit further down from that right
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But right if you put it in the pool of other woods yep, but you were like no I'm putting it in the hole pool
Yes, you still be down earth for you, which is surprising to me. I thought you put it below it
But I know it's a great stick. So I thought it would it would go up pretty high
But I didn't think you'd beat out another really strong earth contender
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Well, I'm glad you're pleased very nice very nice
You got round up top five I will round up top five for everyone
We got the Rocky Patel catch 22, which was just last week. Yep. We have the adventurer king's gold
In the number four spot
We have the a j man of war our mod in number three spot
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The adventurer blue hijax revenge and then still number one predominant 20th anniversary
Maduro
So are there
Oh
When I lost it. Let me see the list. I had my question. I lost it
Okay
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Formulate your question again. All right. Okay. Oh, yeah. Are there more man awards in the lineup? Yes, excellent
He's a little one though. He's like a corona. So you want me to bring him in soon. I'll bring him in soon
You got your box have it ahead of time. Yes, I would and I will okay. I will do so this weekend. Oh, yeah
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Uh, or this week because I'm going to be so yeah, no
We have that man a war a mod a
And it's like
We've got to get more of these
So maybe not those at 22 bucks, but yeah, ish, which you you know where I'm going. Yeah, so
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My ass. Yep. I hear you. I remember that man excellent show. Oh, man. I feel better. Heck yeah
You
Welcome to our newest episode in this episode we will have the diesel uncut
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With it garrison brothers single barrel. Okay
You're hanging out with Bill and Darrell with cigars liquor and more
All right the diesel uncut is a six and a half by 52
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blended by AJ Fernandez
It has a pencil vanian broadleaf wrapper with Nicaraguan binder and filler. Oh
MSRP 550
550
$50 cents the garrison brothers single barrel is bottled at 94 proof
And it is yet another
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Total wine and more pick and its SRP is 99 but here's what's funny
Don't know why they were clearing it off the shelves. I got it for 65
Still of a deal man. Yeah, still of a deal
Yeah, so I was looking at those legs. I mean, it's it's really dark
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It's a really dark three years old. Oh, yeah, it's three years age stated on the side of the box
Yeah, and those things run fast. So it didn't seem like it was high high proof, right?
And then you say 94 it's like yep, that makes sense
Okay, now this is very characteristic of a garrison brothers. Okay, so the nose
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Yeah, I wish did the nose is uh, the nose has got a lot of wood
But it's got a characteristic wood that reminds me of like a corny wood
You know, I mean it comes off a little corny. Yeah, I get where you're going
I'll pick it up what you're putting down. Oh, that smells so good. This smells so good
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Hmm, I love this nose
Also corny on the palate sure. There's not a licorice aroma to it. Mm-hmm
Yeah, I normally pick up a lot of licorice. I didn't get that this go. Did you
Or you just messing with me? I was messing with it
It
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Hented of it. Okay, for a moment. That's why because I know you don't like
liqueur
I like it and very very very very. I'm not sure how many varies it is. Is each very attended a minus three engineering style or is it just one or
I'm gonna go with that. Yeah, okay
I like small amounts so
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So we're talking less than a millimeter every 20 years
It's something like that
Yeah, I think it's a it's pretty corny on the palate and then it brings it's got a long finish though. I like the long finish
It hangs around I like that wooden corn
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That's what I got wood and corn
There's something else there. I'm just not nailing it down
I'm telling you
There's something else. There's only something else there. I'm not a sommelier
Smells great though
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Okay, you know what I'm gonna say
Cinnamon it's just something creamy like almost like a butterscotch
I want to say butterscotch. Yeah, yeah creamy
Yes creamy
I'm going I like that that's a good that's a good way of describing that yeah
I mean, it's not a strong butterscotch, but it's kind of butterscotch-y
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I like that. I'm going with that
Hmm lovely
So whoever wrote this article is definitely not from Texas
Oh
You're skipping ahead
Sorry cheaters. Sorry
No, I like the title no problem. I hear you
Okay, so we we're gonna be talking a lot more we thought we were talking a lot about rares before now
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We're gonna talk even more now. There's embargo. Yeah
Oh before we talk about anything like that I need to correct a little bit too
Yeah, so so this diesel and cut at a close-foot and I just wanted to try to like the wrapper and see if that would be good enough to lie
Yeah, I want
Pull on it really hard because I wouldn't get hot, you know, yeah
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And um when you when you do just light a closed foot
What tends to do is it runs down the side that was folded from
Yes, and that's what this did and so I had to do a touch-up on the side that it ran to
um and and and there you go yet another reason why I'm not a huge fan of the closed foot
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And I don't know why I am but I I like the closed foot
I think you know what I think I like
Did you get a wrapper at the front you get a lot of wrapper so you get a lot of wrapper flavor
In in the light. Oh
Maybe maybe you could peel it back some and ease your lighting
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No, because it's not gonna help your lighting. Oh, you could do a swoop of those and make a little spiral thing
Make a little ponytail at the top the pigtail. Yeah, and like that does
I didn't know to aid anything
I
It is an extra little step. I do appreciate the extra little steps. Thank you
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As long as it's not a foot band. I do appreciate the extra little steps including box presses and you know
The perfecto shapes and I love that that's my favorite. I do appreciate these things
But some things I just think are really non-value added you may like a foot band. I like foot band
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Like make me do something before I like my light your cigar. That's just seems wrong to me. Okay
Just I get that. I'm not a huge fan of the foot band, too
Okay
So anyway, yes
now
This cigar has such a
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Simple smooth draw
I mean there is nothing impeding this draw at all
Okay, I don't have a super light draw. I think I have an ideal draw
You think it you're describing a super light draw. I am okay. I think mine it's it's lighter than medium
But it's it's a great draw. I like this draw
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The thing that I
Don't particularly care for when it comes to really really light draws
Is I tend I tend to make it over warm. Yeah, make it too hot burn it fast
More sitting. Yeah, yeah, I don't want that so
That's
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Try to mention these things. Yeah, oh
I yeah, well we're supposed to mention those things, but I'm glad I'm glad you don't yeah true enough
But I'm glad you don't because you know
It says there's hope
I think I have the perfect draw
Perfect draw also
This is a great flavor. So we're we're a good quarter-half inch in and it lit up real easy
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No settling in as a great flavor right off the bat. So
They so I've been talking on it without drinking the the garrison brothers and
It's it's kind of really there's a there's a of wood component to it. That's really nice. What's the for what's the forward?
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Yeah, and it's an aromatic wood. Yeah, it's like a cedar. Yeah, like it. Yeah, but not yeah, it's not cedar. It's like a cedar
Yeah, it's an aromatic wood. It's very nice. Really really nice. Yeah
Uh
Now the retrohail is like a sharp fireplace wood. So it's it's not peppery, but it is like a like it's not a great
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Retrohail wood it's it's kind of rough
But
Happy and said not quite I'm still I'm still retrohailing not not quite breathing directly from the campfire right not far from it
Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I I'm I'm with you on that one
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But wood an aromatic wood being the forward flavor and then it lands way back in the finish
Some baking spices
Which I like. I'm you know, I'm a big baking person itself
Lovely. Are you do you get you get any hint at all of like a almost a musty
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No, just just a just a I wish just a touch. No, I'm not just a just a touch
Now maybe later
Think about it. I will
No, you don't want to get a hit in the concentrate. You know what you know what hint I get in the finish long finish. What's it? Uh paper
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I get a little paper
Can't argue with that
It does it does actually have a long finish actually a point
You know, it's kind of
It's kind of odd. I've never notated it down
Maybe I should I've never notated it down, but
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Uh
You know, the the long finishes tend to be more bold and dark, right? Uh-huh or typical right
This one
Not really that bold not really that dark
But it does have a long finish. It's a little darker than a Colorado
But not much. Yeah, it's not like I'm not talking about color. I'm talking about flavor. Oh, I
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When you said dark, I think I'm at the rapper
Yeah, my bad
But you get where I'm going. Yeah. Yeah
Anyway
Yeah, I like this. I like this guy. This is a good song. Yeah
Now the drink draw I like I like the corn
You put the corn with the cigar the wood. It's a nice combo
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Now would say it does help the cigar
I
Corn and wood is whiskey
Or bourbon technically right
right
Right um, I like the drink draw. I don't know that the cigar helps the liquor though
So unfortunately not a premium repairing, but um
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Definitely the nice combo
It doesn't stay out of the way. It I think it helps the cigar. I think it adds a little
Little sweetness to the cigar. It does
Especially in the finish
I like it
It's gonna be a good day
It is
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Good song
As a good song
Oh
All right
Just saying as we speak
The last easy you got your feet propped up
Yeah, dude you do too. Yes, I do don't act like I'm doing my feet propped up
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I'm giving a little touch up. I've still got one side that's burning a little slower
Yeah, well once I hit the edge because it didn't catch the edge of the rapper with the you know close
But then once I hit that now I'm good. It evened out it caught up with the other side defines what you hope for yeah
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I mean really it is
So what's funny is I we hadn't done diesels in a long time it'd been a couple years
We mentioned it when we did the diesel original. Yep, but after doing the diesel original
I'm like I'm going back to the tragedy. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna hit more diesels
We do bored in bad boys. Yeah, and I was like well, let's let's revisit this because we have been
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Diesel shot. Yeah, well, well, you know, we've been doing this is 2019
That's a lot of years as a last guard. I mean the year this this garrison brothers came in
The year the year this garrison brothers will be bottled
Or distilled. Sorry distilled distilled. Yeah, so
We got
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A giant gap in in diesels, right? Honestly, honestly, yeah, big gap of diesels
Yeah, and after hitting that diesel original like no, no, no, we got a we're gonna revisit this and so I picked up
A variety of the ones and I say that I think the uncut my favorite
Hmm. Yeah, because I I did preview this before we had an on show
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I gave you a couple, but again, you've been slammed at work. Yeah, so
I haven't had the to take my recommendations. Yep, but um I
I think this is
Probably my new favorite diesel
Even even more than the original which man we had it. I was like, oh my god the diesel original. Oh, we've forgotten this
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So many years
Which we had we had we had and it was sad
That's true, but I mean think about it. We there's so many
Yes
We've set up before the heyday hmm of both cigars and liquor
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Yeah
Because I didn't realize what Fernandez blended this talk about sticking to landed when I am
A.J. He's just still on fire. Yeah, he's just so awesome
Still off I have because I don't know what year he blended this maybe he blended this three years ago and
Hey day of his being on fire. Yeah
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He'll be
Could be but I
Doesn't matter. Oh, so good
Well done if it's got a JJ fits got a J by the name you almost can't go wrong
You should at least try it even if it's wrong for you
Yeah, it's worth a try because he's done good stuff with a lot of other
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Companies besides his own. He's a great
Oh, yeah feature a laboratory. Yeah, he's a great feature artist like yeah, so many
Rap stars will do now you get a feature you got something better song and you go hey, how come they don't more of that?
Well, they they do now
Well, I think this is a guard companies are doing that now too. They you know age is not the only one who features
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No, no, there's a lot of them. They're they're across. Yes
Mm-hmm lovely lovely lovely
All right, man. That's another one. I haven't I've been I've been garrison brothers. I don't know either
It has been yeah, quite a while
Hmm
All right, do you want to jump into that rare earth? Mm-hmm. All right
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I heard I really really meant extraction breakthrough could boost US's
position critical tech
Good good title
Yeah, I picked this up from MSN
Rare earth element sort of backbone of events technologies. You know this if you listen to us at all. That's right
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I'm skipping some of it Minesh Kumar for our University of Texas at Austin. Oh, this was this was my first comment
Obviously the person that wrote this not from Texas
Okay
Because you just said UT for you TA
Well, I think they're publishing information. Not just Texans you Texas
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Mm-hmm get out of here
Kumar is going to develop the special artificial membrane channel that can overcome the problem and make
REEs, which is short for the the rare earth elements. Yep more accessible than ever and here
How that emission works?
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membrane channel inspired by transport proteins
Human body cells have special proteins that only allows our nions to pass through while blocking others
We paid attention to nature. Oh, we've done that a lot
ah
And this inspired them to make membranes to do the isolation of these which
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Isolate isolation of the rare earths is the problem not finding them in the ground. They're all over in the ground
But they're really hard to isolate and really expensive and
Very low percentages. So this is you know, this is why they're rare. They're not actually all that rare
They're not rare in quantity. Yeah, they're rare in quality
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Yep
The artificial channels are small pores made of modified versions of
Pillar a rene a ring shaped molecule that can selectively bind and
Release other molecules only specific ions can move through each pore and the pore is the ring size
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So you can segregate
What you're looking for based on size? That's that's why this particular thing
Is being used interesting yeah in this case the artificial channel selectivity transports ions from the rare earth element
Turbium eropium and restricts the movements of regular ions like calcium and potassium
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So that's a huge
difference because
Calcium potassium very common
And getting the way of a lot of things
So
So when they tested this in the lab
The channels showed that they were able to choose rare earth elements
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Up to 40 times better selectivity
That's really great
They could let through for instance
Eropium while blocking other similar ones like lanthanum and uterbium which are also rare elements
But when you want to isolate one from the other that's important too
Calcium and potassium and you know a lot of those other ones so even all the other ones in that same kind of column
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Yeah, they're tough
But you you've also got to get them away from each other which is even even closer in size because they're they're all big
They're all the big ones at the bottom so much uh bottom of the periodic table
I mean yeah so much similarity
So that's super cool
40 times that that's a huge
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That's very expensive
To to separate these things and they've made it much easier
So this is a big deal because normally the chemical extraction methods require many steps harsh solvents
and every time you go through a step you lose
yield
Absolutely, so that is why cutting down the steps is so important
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Though these selectivity levels are sitting higher than those achieved by traditional solvent based methods
They're required dozens of stages to achieve similar results
so
That is the key because you lose yield at each stage
And so when you do dozens of stages to get to that concentration and this you're doing it in one step
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Major advantage major cost reduction major time reduction all that right beautiful
You absolutely and right here at UT and right here in Texas baby right so we don't have to
Get this from Europe or Switzerland or some other you know
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London or some other university right right here. No, can I say it this way?
Hmm for this Texas is the country of origin
Great
Researchers further confirmed these results through computer simulations
Proving the artificial membranes have the potential to revolutionize rare earth extraction
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Moreover simulations revealed that the artificial channels were able to effectively select
REE ions because water molecules arranged around these ions differently
This is awesome. That's weird
But cool um, so you read my doctoral thesis
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But my master's thesis I actually used rare earths a lot of them. Oh did you yeah, so I was putting them
Now I was putting them in structures for different reasons. I wasn't using their
Chemical capability. I was using their size to basically freeze ligands and do certain structures so that we could
(21:26):
Um isolate where particular atoms were in the structure through NMR
It's all not actually all that interesting
It was it was more about
Proving simulation
Could demonstrate the location of an atom in a molecule and these large ligands in these
(21:50):
um bound structures
With small radii differences were able to help do that. That's that's all
I was just using the radii. It was just because they were big
but
I've worked with them
And they are a bite in the ass and they are expensive
(22:11):
Now not a surprise
Reports suggest that the demand for rare earth elements could surge by more than
26
percent in the next 10 years, but that's that's just because we are all about electronics and all these go into electronics
Which is why the embargo china against us is not good
(22:32):
Which is why they did it which is why they did it which is why they were cornering the market because they knew this was coming
Yep, and we knew this was coming. Oh, they've been an economic war for what does for since the 60 years yeah
Wow since we opened them since we opened above mm-hmm
So all the quantum computing advanced semiconductors green energy all these rely on the heavy
(23:00):
transition metals and
lanternides
Not actinides, you know those are mostly radioactive, but every it's great bit of it every bit of every bit of it is dependent on those
Magnets and for this is neodymium in magnets. This is huge. You can't do magnets about neodymium. Nope
they're
(23:23):
these things are
critical
national security type they are yep
so
Now this
This is good news. This is this is great research. Yes
When can we get it into production?
The study authors also love asking that question
(23:45):
Tannels in the scalable system suitable for industrial use
For this purpose. They're developing a platform that will enable them the transport ions of both our ease and critical elements such as lithium
and nickel etc
Lithium is right next to the lanternides. It's it's largely considered a lanternite in fact
(24:05):
scandium is good and considered a lanternite even though it's not did not know any of that. Yeah
Well, now you do. I'm not the chemist you are. Yeah
So
On that note, let's take a little break. Cool
And we will be right back. Got you
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All right, let's hit the midpoint you know
So during the break we were talking about the uh we were talking about the garrison brothers
and my comment was
I
It's it's heavy
And I asked Darryl I said you know what I mean by that and Darryl said
As you take a drink. Yeah, I said I will I think I don't know I guess you could probably look it up
(25:26):
But my feeling is this is a rich heavy
oily type that is not a column still. It's likely a pot still
And that's my guess and that's how it comes off and this this makes complete sense to me. I
I'm going with it. Hmm. I'm going with it. This this makes sense
(25:49):
And this is why I like pot stills. I like the rich creamy heavy drink. Yeah
I
It's been a while since I've had garrison brothers. I don't remember them being that way
Okay, but it's been a while. Yeah, so I kind of surprised me a little bit
Yeah, but I'm not a bad way. I should look it up. I should look it up. I don't know
(26:14):
But that would be my guess because I don't think you get something
this rich out of a column still
and
This really is
Nicely done bottle. It's got this silver band that goes all the way around very ornate bottle great great star
Ornamentation on the star
The wax coming down just right. It comes all the way out of the shoulders of the bottle. Yeah, it's just very very well done
(26:42):
They did not skimp on the wax. No, no, they didn't and there's there's engraving all over the bottle
Yeah, the the year and the barrel number and the bottle number look like their hand printed even if they're not
It looks like somebody drew it in with a silver sharpie
There's another metal band around the middle and a metal plaque on the front. It says hey, I'm from total line
(27:04):
And as always the garrison star is a metal star on the front
It's a very ornate bottle. They're not messing around with their bottle and the the the motto
Uh, good burbing can change the world. Mm-hmm. You can change the world just so so nice
Uh
(27:24):
Transitioning over to the diesel. Mm-hmm. We didn't talk about this band
Oh, I do like this band at the the band is I mean, it's it's a dark brown a light brown and a tan and a gold
Enigold all mixed together. Yeah, but but where it bond is cool. Yes, it is
(27:48):
But where where it peels up just a little bit
It's got that nice nice scalping on it. Mm-hmm. It you know right with the the little floor thing is. Yeah, it's got a little
Not exactly not a floor at least, but something flowery like that. Yeah, it's it's all flowers around the the script D
Yeah, it's just it's
(28:10):
And it's not the exact diesel you did, but very well done. Yeah, yeah, I was gorgeous
And it's not the exact diesel script. It's like a variation of it
Which just says I'm a little bit different than the rest of these all right. It's uncut
Yeah
So the the
Construction is top notch. I'm not having any problem. You know, it's concerned about the light draw. Mm-hmm
(28:36):
I haven't had any problems with it. It's not smoking super fast on you. No
But I I have been purposely not going
normal
But I okay, I haven't been really I haven't been hitting the brakes that much
so
I this is one of those kind of side guys. I have a hard time hitting the brakes on because
(28:58):
I really am enjoying this again
You said it before. Well say what you mentioned about the wood
I really really like this wood. It's just it's so
It's just it's beautiful. It's just got a beautiful flavor to it. It's a very nice wood flavor
(29:18):
Yes, aromatic, but not cedar aromatic, but it is an aromatic wood just so so nice
And you don't get that
That often at least not the scars we get
Right. Yeah, I don't get a whole bunch of you get a few of these get a few like it. We get a few
(29:38):
So it's it's really nice when you get a hold of one it is and this is like I said probably my favorite diesel now
I couldn't you can see why yeah, I definitely see why all but that original set it off
I probably wouldn't have been hunting
If that these original hadn't set me on the path
(30:00):
And diesel original is pretty top notch really is
All right, anything to add have you done the the comb I haven't done the combo. I haven't thought about the combo
Yeah, I wanted to well, I did say earlier that I liked have a the corn add as we just do it. That's right
(30:21):
But I don't think the draw drink changes the liquor any
It's just it's just it's such a strong liquor the
Now that you've said oily I'm gonna go with that the oiliness of this garrison
Kind of it does compliments
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The aromatic wood
I think so they don't
They're not staying out of each other's way
But the liquor is helping the cigar so yeah, and it's not a primo pairing because I don't think the cigar
touches the liquor right, but I do think I like it better with the the drink draw. Yes. Yeah, yeah, I like it
(31:05):
Sweet, it's a wonderful day. When when when yes
When all around ah lovely great great great midpoint
All right
There's not too much left in the article, but I will point out that it is in the journal of ACS nano
So you can find the study published not that a lot of people are going to run out to the library
(31:28):
Like oh, I got to check out ACS nano
But just FYI, you know, it's there. They published it. Yeah, it's not just a
I'm up front, you know
Puff piece that somebody wrote saying hey, we could do this
They it was good enough to publish. No, they didn't study on it. Yeah. Yeah
sweet
(31:49):
These are the kind of advancements that are just
Not only timely
But it's just awesome for mankind overall and it is it cannot be more timely. Yeah, we really need
So now we have
Aerogels that can isolate individual metals gold and we and well eventually that not eventually probably right after gold in fact probably before gold
(32:19):
Okay
Well, it won't be before gold because there's a lot more gold and electronics than there is to wear earth elements, but
The rare earth elements are actually worth more than gold. I don't know if you know that. Yeah, but they sell for a lot more
Uh, in their pure form. So, you know
You actually they normally come as chlorides that that's how I always got them
(32:43):
So you but you couldn't had a better time
We're ramping electronics
We need to find a way to recycle our electronics and we need to be able to make more electronics and
These two that I put back to back not by accident
Our key to that kind of advancement in technology that makes all this possible
(33:06):
You know, you know how our parents were
You know that they were on
You know, they saw the
You know, the space race and the coming up of technology right right through that era and
Uh, you know, but in our lifetimes we have seen
(33:29):
Oh, just leave some bounds. Oh my god. No, the top of that
And I mean when when we were kids you had maybe you know two plugs in a living room, right now you need you need four or five plugs
In a living room
You know the double socket plugs right because everything you touch now
(33:52):
Requires electricity
We we had a lot more mechanical things growing up than we did electronic things growing up right
Whereas your kids
All electronics very little mechanical right. I don't think they press an actual button anymore
Everything's in virtual button or wind anything up
(34:15):
Uh, right or or or or like like the little cards you pull backwards
Actual spring what he's put a battery in that
But I just I mean
Just think of the amazing things that that when your kids are our age
(34:35):
What they'll be witnessing
They'll be in the matrix. No
We already are
Oh, we're gonna run to it. We're gonna whole hardly embraces. The one mistake that the matrix made is that we will try to wake up from it
We're definitely not gonna try to wake up from it
(34:55):
We're gonna run to it so fast
It's the only way to achieve utopia
We'll have people not interact with each other and hurt each other
Ah
People will still hurt each other
And we've seen that we see that already right the online bullying crap
(35:17):
Right
People are rich people will hurt each other even if they're not physically hurting them. Yeah
Yeah, I mean eventually we'll just be interacting with virtual
Yeah, um
You know inorganic intelligence and uh
Won't be hurting people anymore
(35:38):
Till they decide we're you know more pets or slaves than anything else and then they will be early imagine pets
We're still gonna be a curiosity
Something described for yeah, no
Something to study
I was being nice
(35:58):
Ah
It's just
boggles the mind
how far we come oh
Yeah, yeah, it was only
10 years ago that
They were saying everyone should learn to code
And now AI is like doing a lot of coding and
(36:19):
That's gonna be one of the first
Jobs that falls by the wayside you have to learn how to
create
and and manage
AI AI agents. Yeah
You know
You have to work on the metric span. I think the next skill that needs to be developed is how to search with
(36:44):
a
With the the LLM's because I remember
When I was doing my degree and
One of the skills that I developed and set
My
Whatever generation of students ahead was learning how to search in google or just online
(37:08):
It could have been jives. It could have been dog pile. It's still ducked up go for me
I like duck duck go
But I remember jives. Yeah, yeah, but like
Knowing how to search but really critical just about everyone's first one was aol
Yeah, yeah, yeah
(37:29):
Of course, yeah, and that's capable is everybody's first real browser. Yep, but like
I think the next is not learning no knowing understanding out of search
Like a like a google search. It's going to be how to pose questions and develop
(37:50):
Because what I've noticed when I work with the LLM's
You have to work step by step and explain things you can't just say
Build me a platform you have to say what's this what's that do this can you do that and it's like sculpting from the ground up
Your ultimate search and that's going to be the real skill in the future you start with a base
(38:18):
Right, you start with a base response base question
And then you you ask tweaking question. Yeah, you have to be simple. You have to start simple. Yes, and then move up because
Because I like imagine if you just approached a some captain of industry
You you went to
Whatever a baseless and you said how do you start a company? He's gonna be like
(38:44):
I don't even know that's just too big of a question
You have to start
little and work
Little questions to to sculpt
You're the answer you're looking for. Yes, and you're going to have to do that
And learn how to do that with the LLM's now a lot of people are like
(39:04):
All right me, uh, you know to page paper about the Peloponnesian war and then they printed off and turn it in right that's that's
so
Not there
That's the that's turning in a copy of the cliff notes, right? Yes. That's not the same. So
sculpting your
(39:26):
Your goal with an LLM like a person
Is going to be the skill of the future. That's the skill is to build things in an LLM in in a
electronic system, right? It's not just searching like we had to learn
(39:48):
But was a skill when we learned it like it put us. Oh absolutely. If you had if you understood it absolutely
So let me ask you. Okay, so first. I'm going to state an observation
Cool my own personal observation. That's all we have and then I'm going to ask you a question. Hmm
all right, so
(40:10):
I would say over the past
decade
Communication skills language skills. Yeah, they've suffered. Yeah, you're right. I know where you're going. Yeah have
diminished especially
Going from a college environment to a professional environment
(40:34):
Do you think that working more with LLM's
Those language skills might become better
Yeah, so I didn't know that's where you got pivot it
I think our language skills and our interaction when people have been harmed by our online work
(40:55):
Specifically texting but we haven't
worked with LLM's like we will in the future and when we start to do that
I think the people who redevelop
Their language skills
Will be the successful ones because you have to do that with an LLM
Yeah, I would
(41:17):
Let's see where you're going. I agree
But it's going to take a while. I hope
Yeah, yeah, I want to say a while 10 years should do it
Honestly, I have no idea what's going to happen in 10 years. It's going to be so insane. I can't even
Exactly forecast five. It's crazy
(41:37):
So I alluded to AI agents previously. Yeah
That's
Something else that is gonna be is just gonna explode that I think is going to explode in
Just about every workforce. That's exploding now. It it is but it's well
(41:59):
It's not exploding. It's flaming up. I just got some licorice in the garrison
Uh see man see I wasn't
Weird. I was not lying. Hey came out that came out of a draw draw drink
Got to be careful got to be careful of those. Yeah
(42:20):
All right, go on. Sorry. That's just stunned me. I'm like what I wouldn't necessarily say that that's exploding right now
I would say that that it it's coming more to the forefront. Mm-hmm
But I think over the next five years
Uh, you're going to you're going to start seeing positions that are
(42:41):
specifically for
Generating AI agents to perform tasks to make these
Machine learning and large language model
Apparatuses. Yeah, be able to interface with existing systems
Apparatuses, right? Apparatize. Apparatize
Are there any other? I think I sound better
(43:06):
I think so. Yeah, no, I'd agree. I'd agree with that because I mean right now we're still we're still kind of in a we're still kind of in a playing phase, right? What what
What can work? What can we do with it? How can we interface with things that we have? I mean
If you have unstructured data
(43:27):
Freak and fabulous at that
But when you have to touch structured data
specifically
Data where
Depending upon the discipline that you're touching
The language changes
Can mean this it can be the same thing
But be called something different
(43:50):
Right, yeah, you need and you don't have the the
Massive for a of unstructured documents
To help you figure it out. Why is it that I feel like my company's always going to be a
Organizing data is powerful what I do. It's just unbelievable. Like and we put this together. Oh my god
(44:20):
No, the
I think
When we get
Synergistic with
Tell them
We will we'll go even faster than we're going now
Yeah, the the the metrics you matrix used to
(44:43):
That you have to
The model sorry the model that you used that you the model you have to train in order to get
Get it going in the right direction so that produces correct results mostly correct results
Those
People are figuring out really really fast. Yeah, they need to because that the
(45:05):
As they call them hallucinations
They're getting worse that the more data we put into them the worse they get. Oh the more we have to figure out why
But the more dimensions you throw at
of
Inorganic intelligence
Well, no, it's it's a matrix structure
(45:26):
Which is where the dimensions come from mm-hmm right the the the more dimensions you give
The more likely you are to have those hallucinations or end up in a wrong pool
That that's why that's why training is so important
But we've we've gotten to the point now to where
(45:48):
Training is pretty habitual now. We we unders we we understand it. We're pretty good with it
And once we figure it out we can package it and we can say hey, here's this model use this
Well, I think it needs guidance because right now we're just letting it go on its own and it's kind of a mess like the early internet was
Before we started to organize it and get
(46:10):
Keywords and search and we'll get there and and just like programming languages
They will eventually start to merge and be more like yeah be more like one or another
But it it will take a little bit, but we'll get there, but it's the
The AI agents that allow you to
(46:33):
Interface that with other things I
I think is going to be
Really where the bread and butter's at
Yeah, I mean I think we we've got always to go
But I think at the speed at which we're going we'll get there sooner than you think
I
(46:53):
Eight years or less
Really, yeah, I think so too. It's so fast
especially if
We find a way to make them stable enough that we can add a programming language
To a quantum computer
When we get that it's going to be the bang
(47:18):
But I you know python is the is the language of choice for today
But you know that that it's already 30 years old you had
You had
I can't tell you how big pearl was 20 years ago. Yeah
And
And now nobody knows pearl
(47:40):
Yeah, but was pearl what's gonna happen
With python
Well, that's the thing I think pivans had more staying power than most of the languages though
For broad use like you go staying power. You go well, you know, Unix has the most thing back
You know, yeah, yeah, but not on a broad use it's it's Unix is in a programming language. It's just well
(48:05):
Okay, so it's a system. Yeah, I'm thinking something more like
I see
Yep, the see hasn't had the staying power that python has
Yet it has
Well, it's still around
Not in the volume I think pivans had the higher volume for a longer period of time. Yeah compared to other languages
(48:31):
I mean nothing ever dies people still use vb
db
Pascal four tram right still runs the world cobalt but they're not cobalt and four trains still run the world but they're but they're
They're what a volume of use
Didn't have they were at one pint larger volume and other much smaller volume
(48:52):
python has been a larger volume for a longer time. I feel yeah, but just like c plus plus or planted c quite a bit
and was more
but
Easier for people to catch on to than c was
Something like that is going to happen to python it will evolve absolutely
(49:14):
What's that gonna be?
It's not iron python. No, no, it is done
We ate that land
ate that language
well
iron python is
python
That talks well with
Dot net
Yeah, and there's been no development since two points up
(49:37):
I been I hated I hated
I have to do it first by far and I hate it
It's all right
Yeah, I should rate these things
We absolutely should
Okay, let's see
(49:59):
That's just not right
Just not right
All right
You're this hang on a moment. Yep
Yeah, it's just not right
All right, all right here you go
(50:21):
All right, I'm gonna lead off here. Please
Um
Although I got to find it
Yeah, I scrolled it to the bottom. Yeah, you had to go find it
Hey, then
Interesting
I know right
All right, we breached the top five
(50:44):
So Darryl put the garrison brother's single barrel
In the number four slots right below the balcony is lineage and just above
The Russell reserves single barrel
Ooh nice positioning that is how much I like the lineage that is that says something actually that says some of the lineage
This is a really great bottle
(51:06):
It is a good bottle
Yeah, wow, okay
So just how do you feel about that um
I think I might put it right below the rustles instead of above it, but same area same area yeah, you were close then okay
Um
So top five Russell reserves this garrison brothers balcony is lineage 1845 pre-empts and reverence cast and still number one
(51:33):
Remus volume eight
All right, well
Bill put the diesel uncut a little bit lower than I would have, but he still put it in the number nine position
He put it above the diesel
I did put it above the diesel region but below the rocky Patel LB1
Which I would also know came in below the particles heritage
(51:58):
So
That was my that was the so
Yes, I put it above the diesel original
That LB1
I did I
Really wanted to put it above it. Mm-hmm, but I just couldn't okay. I just I
(52:18):
I don't know you really like that LB1 then I died I did I really did
So but the big surprise for me was that I put it above the these this one above the diesel original
Yeah, because I really really enjoyed that diesel original I did do
Uh
What this brings to the table is something that
Well, we have noted we we do have occasionally
(52:43):
That that nice aromatic would right
Uh, we do have occasionally don't have that often
And when you do it it does tend to pop up a little bit. Yeah, so because you know you mean you have it
You're like oh nice nice nice
So there you go, but what's extra notable
(53:04):
Is that a primary wood flavor beat out an earth flavor at yes, yes, that is unique for you that that was that was also an interesting thing going through the list
Um
Because you know
If you were going to rate it that way
Or group it that way it would have been a little bit further down from that right
(53:26):
But right if you put it in the pool of other woods yep, but you were like no I'm putting it in the hole pool
Yes, you still be down earth for you, which is surprising to me. I thought you put it below it
But I know it's a great stick. So I thought it would it would go up pretty high
But I didn't think you'd beat out another really strong earth contender
(53:51):
Well, I'm glad you're pleased very nice very nice
You got round up top five I will round up top five for everyone
We got the Rocky Patel catch 22, which was just last week. Yep. We have the adventurer king's gold
In the number four spot
We have the a j man of war our mod in number three spot
(54:14):
The adventurer blue hijax revenge and then still number one predominant 20th anniversary
Maduro
So are there
Oh
When I lost it. Let me see the list. I had my question. I lost it
Okay
(54:34):
Formulate your question again. All right. Okay. Oh, yeah. Are there more man awards in the lineup? Yes, excellent
He's a little one though. He's like a corona. So you want me to bring him in soon. I'll bring him in soon
You got your box have it ahead of time. Yes, I would and I will okay. I will do so this weekend. Oh, yeah
(55:00):
Uh, or this week because I'm going to be so yeah, no
We have that man a war a mod a
And it's like
We've got to get more of these
So maybe not those at 22 bucks, but yeah, ish, which you you know where I'm going. Yeah, so
(55:24):
My ass. Yep. I hear you. I remember that man excellent show. Oh, man. I feel better. Heck yeah
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