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October 7, 2025 85 mins

In this wide-ranging conversation, Natalie Brunell is joined by Matthew Pines, Executive Director of the Bitcoin Policy Institute and advisor at Skywatcher, to discuss how Bitcoin is influencing U.S. policy and the global financial order. Topics discussed:

  • Washington's plans for Bitcoin: Is it our secret weapon against China?
  • The role of stablecoins in maintaining dollar dominance
  • The intersection of AI, quantum computing, and decentralization
  • UAPs: Is there physical evidence?
  • The future of human freedom in an age of accelerating technology

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