Preston Pysh, General Partner at Ego Death Capital and Lawrence Lepard, author of The Big Print, return to the show for an in-depth discussion about the macroeconomic turning point now unfolding. They break down the Fed's latest moves, the illusion of tightening, and why quantitative easing (QE) is inevitable — whether it's called that or not. The conversation spans the end of the petrodollar era, the rise of AI and automation, wealth inequality, populism, and the future of Bitcoin in a world of gold-buying central banks.
We discuss:
- Why liquidity drives every market cycle
- How QE will return under a new name
- Why gold leads but Bitcoin will win
- How AI & automation reshape labor, wages, and inflation -- and leads to more Mamdanis
- Why "crony capitalism," not capitalism, broke the system
- How quantum computing could force Bitcoin's next major upgrade
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