September 4, 2024 • 19 mins
Daniele Carol: Photography, Wellness, and the Stories Behind Her Upcoming Book | Conversations With a Chiropractor
In this insightful episode of Conversations With a Chiropractor, Dr. Stephanie Wautier is joined by Daniele Carol, a talented photographer who has navigated her way from the world of film photography to becoming a wellness advocate and book creator. Daniele shares her journey, from her early days in photography to building a successful business in Marquette. She also opens up about her latest project: a coffee table book that captures the beauty of aging, featuring portraits of people aged one to one hundred.
🎧 In This Episode, Discover:
- Daniele's Photography Journey: From film to building a thriving business.
- Adapting During the Pandemic: How Daniele shifted her business focus in challenging times.
- Creating a Coffee Table Book: The story behind Daniele's latest project, capturing the beauty of aging.
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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to the Podcast
00:41 Meeting Daniele Carol
01:49 Daniele's Journey into Photography
04:45 Building a Photography Business
06:24 Transitioning to Marquette
10:36 Adapting During the Pandemic
12:42 Creating a Coffee Table Book
16:39 Chiropractic Care and Final Thoughts
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Transcript
Episode Transcript
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Stephanie (00:04):
Hi, this is Dr.
Stephanie Wautier, and I'm the hostof Conversations with a Chiropractor.
This is not a health how to, butrather a conversation with some
amazing people I've had the pleasureof being with on my journey of life.
Think of it more like Tuesdays with Maury.
A fireside chat orchicken soup for the soul.
(00:27):
Grab a cup of coffee, sit back and enjoythis conversation with a chiropractor.
Daniele, thank you so muchfor being on this podcast.
Daniele (00:46):
Thank you for having me.
Stephanie (00:47):
So I want to tell the funny story of how we met.
I was, a mom wanting to do somekind of grown up family pictures.
It was 2016.
And I remember harassing you, like callingyou and emailing you because people
were like, Daniele Carol is the best.
You've got to have herdo your family pictures.
And you were like, I just had a baby.
I promise I'll do them,but I just had a baby.
(01:10):
.... So, I felt like perhaps foreverI would be known as, the
annoying woman who harassed you.
Daniele (01:17):
No, I don't remember that.
Now that you say that, I doremember our first pictures were
in like November, December of 2016.
November.
Yep.
November.
Yeah.
I do remember that.
That's too funny.
And Asher was born in October of 2016.
So you
Stephanie (01:32):
were a first.
Fresh postpartum mama,fresh mom with number three.
And, yeah, and you've alwaysdone beautiful pictures.
And since that time you've donebusiness pictures for me and now you
just did my son's senior pictures.
So you're definitely ourfamily's photographer.
Yeah.
How did you get into photography?
Daniele (01:52):
I was 16 years old in high school and my, one of my really good friends was
taking a photography class through schooland I wanted to hang out with her more.
And so I signed up and I took my juniorand senior year, took photography
classes through school, and then myteacher at the time was a really big
(02:15):
wedding photographer out where we lived.
I had asked him if I could come to someof the weddings with him and he agreed.
he loved my work that I had donein class and just gave me a camera,
told me what to do, and I just wentaround and shot a bunch of pictures.
Stephanie (02:30):
I don't want to say assistant because you were
actually taking the pictures, butfeet wet, boots on the ground.
There you are.
Daniele (02:37):
Diving right in.
Yeah.
Wow.
And I loved that so much.
There was one brick and mortar,photographer that was in Upland and
we would go to the street fairs,the downtown farmers market type
thing, And I would harass him andbeg him to let me work in the studio.
I just, I don't know why I was somotivated to be there, but I was like, my
(03:00):
mom can drop me off or I can drive and.
Stephanie (03:03):
This is in high school.
Daniele (03:04):
This is in high school.
And I was just, I wasvery persistent with him.
Finally, he let me hang out and starthelping out and things like that.
And he did very high end portraits andvery high end weddings, like thousands.
And this was back in early 2000s.
Stephanie (03:24):
where was this again?
Daniele (03:26):
Alto Loma, California.
Upland, California, RanchoCucamonga, that area east of LA.
Stephanie (03:32):
So you went to high school in California?
Daniele (03:34):
Yes.
Stephanie (03:35):
Okay.
Daniele (03:35):
Yep.
So it started out there.
And then, Jerry was the guy,he let me work for him there.
We were, it was all film back then.
It was medium format film.
So I would stand, sit at the top,like behind the couple and we would
project the stuff onto the wall andthey would order pictures like that.
(03:56):
I had been going on weddings with himand shooting and I was up there and
it came to my rolls of film and the.
I remember that bride being so in lovewith the pictures that I had taken and
just, I love that one and that one.
And can I get this one?
I remember that momentbeing the, I should do this.
(04:18):
I love this and.
And that was it.
it sparked the whole thing to reallywant to go into it as a career.
Like I remember that as my moment.
Stephanie (04:28):
was still in high school.
You were still in high school.
I was still in high school.
I think about this, like withwhatever profession, like People who
are on the stage and it's that likeaudience feedback that fuels them.
So it sounds like you were reallyfueled by this, like reaction
to the pictures that you took.
Yep, absolutely.
So here we are in Marquette, Michigan.
Tell me what happened between highschool and how did you get here?
Daniele (04:52):
So, high school in Alto Loma, and then I went to Brooks Institute of
Photography, which was in Santa Barbara,and while I was in school, my parents
moved to Rochester Hills, Michigan.
Stephanie (05:03):
Okay.
Daniele (05:03):
And then after school, I moved in with them, so I drove across the
country with one of my best friends,and moved in with them there, and then
my would be ex husband was living downthere, and I met .... him and then we
moved up here because he was from up here.
So in 2006, we moved up hereand I've been here ever since.
Stephanie (05:25):
so California of course is so known for the arts
and the television industry.
this place that you went to school forphotography must have been very elite.
Daniele (05:34):
It was a, three years, year round, all immersive,
just photography school.
We took two classes at a time, onephoto class, one elective, which
was also super photo focused.
Stephanie (05:48):
Like editing and was there A science,
Daniele (05:51):
So if we had light science classes to learn about how all light
works, all different types of bulbs andhow light reacts with different things
Stephanie (06:00):
and, yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
Which is why the picturesturn out so amazing.
Yeah.
Once you know Because you'relike the lighting expert.
Expert, like I, I remember having anamazing reaction to photos you had taken.
I look so good.
Yeah.
How did you do that?
What tricks did you use?
Yeah.
Oh, just lighting.
Yeah.
No filters, just lighting.
Just lighting.
Yeah.
You hear me say it all
Daniele (06:20):
the time.
Let me check my light.
Let me check my light.
Stephanie (06:23):
yes.
So 2006, you come up to the UP and youwill in the 10 years from 2006 to 2016.
You had three children.
Yes.
And launched a business in Marquette.
Yes.
So you launched a business thatwas not brick and mortar at first.
Is that right?
Daniele (06:42):
Correct.
Yeah.
So I started the businesswhen I lived downstate.
I was working for, a photographycompany and then a couple other
photographers like assisting and stuffand then started the business and
started to pull in my own clients.
I'm 21 at the time, Ireally wanted to do it.
I wanted to quit theother jobs and everything.
(07:04):
So once I knew I had enough, I waslike, clients for the next year,
booked up and I knew the weddingindustry, so I did a lot of that.
there was some big event typethings that I would go to down
there to photograph and stuff, butI really loved weddings at the time.
Stephanie (07:20):
so you're building your business downstate and you have all
these clients that you've gotten, whichI'm sure was very you were probably
very courageous as a 21 year old tobe building your business because,
Detroit area, Ann Arbor, I imaginethere was a lot of photographers.
Daniele (07:37):
Lots of photographers, lots of people, lots of competition.
Yep.
Exactly.
So I had started the business down there.
And then once I moved up here,I, would travel back and forth.
So I'd book things downstate.
My parents still live down there.
So I would ... Book some stuff staywith them and then come back up
here and started to try to build thebusiness up here from home at the time.
Stephanie (08:01):
that is so difficult to be like living and having businesses in two
different cities that are so far away.
Yep.
So you ended up buying LemonsStudio, which was it like a
downtown staple photographer.
Tell me about that process.
Daniele (08:18):
So in 2016, somebody, a little birdie came and told my assistant at the
time that Lemons was for sale and, we werelooking to get out of our, location in
Negaunee, just because we had outgrown it.
I went in and checked it outand it was perfect because it
was already a photo studio.
(08:39):
So it was pretty much already set up.
the current owners at the time were justwonderful and ready to move on to other
things and really helped out a lot with.
that transition of buying the buildingand moving in there and taking over
their clients and things like that.
it was finalized in March of 2017.
Stephanie (09:00):
Okay.
Yeah.
And so here we are in 2024 and you'restill in that space, but your business
is changing a little bit and has changed.
Daniele (09:09):
It really has.
Yeah.
It's really evolved over the years.
I started out with mostly weddingsand then those people started
having babies and families.
And so I segued into that.
And then I did lots of newbornswhen my baby started to arrive.
I remember wanting to take picturesof my own baby and seeing all these
(09:34):
beautiful posed portraits of babies.
So I tried it out on a friend'sand it was so difficult.
It was so hard.
I had no idea what I was doing.
I knew the light.
I didn't know how to work with a baby.
Stephanie (09:46):
Oh my gosh.
Probably the most difficultsubject ever, right?
Daniele (09:50):
unpredictable.
And just floppy and just everything.
it was great, but I didn'tknow what I was doing.
So I went into, I went to a couple ofseminars and classes and worked with
women who were already doing this andtop of their game and learned from
them because If something's reallydifficult, I have to figure it out.
(10:13):
I'm not going to just stopat, Oh, I can't do this.
So I really focused on the newborns,started to do fewer and fewer weddings.
and then I got into the Lemon Studioand they had a huge senior business.
So I started picking up more seniors,ended up loving that just as much as
I loved the newborns and even moreso push the weddings to the side.
(10:36):
And then basically 2020 cameand things all hit the fan.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
And
Daniele (10:46):
I will say like disposable income that people use for photography
kind of dwindled at that point.
And I was already into the businessside, the headshots, branding,
billboards, products, things like that.
I didn't take a lot of it just becauseI was so busy with other things.
And so I never promoted that I didthat kind of stuff, but it became
(11:11):
more of the bread and butter.
Businesses still had to have things done.
They had the budget for it.
They, needed
Stephanie (11:19):
it.
and, as a business owner, we were all inthis survival mode and also, the whole
world was in this, what's happening?
How long is this going to happen?
I think so unpredictable, right?
And any successful business owner wouldtell you that your ability to pivot proves
how successful you can be, or just eventhat you didn't close your business down.
(11:40):
you and I probably have several,even mutual acquaintances who
didn't make it through COVID, right?
Yeah.
bravo to you for being able to likepivot and shift and continue to use
those skills, continue to benefitpeople, you have to move and change and
shift and going back to how you evengot away from the wedding industry.
(12:01):
I can imagine with three young kidsand the intensity of those weddings
and the weekends and like basicallyyou probably As a wedding photographer
are booked up every weekend.
Daniele (12:13):
Exactly.
Stephanie (12:14):
And I mean, you know, That started
Daniele (12:16):
to become really hard on the family.
Stephanie (12:17):
Yeah, absolutely.
So it's 2020 and you're shifting and yourbusiness is changing organically as it is.
and then tell me what'shappened since then.
Daniele (12:27):
it was a great transition.
I really like where I'm at withthe business side of things.
It's crazy to be here at all.
Like you said, pivoting and then moldingit to what fits life today, basically.
I have always wanted toproduce a coffee table album.
(12:48):
when I was between 16 and, early twenties,I would spend my time in Barnes and
Nobles, their coffee shop, grab a coffeeand just sit in their art section.
I don't like to read books.
I like to flip through pictures.
That's so visual.
Stephanie (13:05):
Absolutely.
Daniele (13:05):
Audiobook
Stephanie (13:07):
looking at
Daniele (13:08):
so because I've transitioned into the more business type stuff,
it's not as creative, it's much morestraightforward, but that lighting has to
Speaker 3 (13:17):
be perfect.
Daniele (13:18):
Exactly.
Everyone wants to look good.
No matter what you're doing.
And that's, but it's not As super creativeand it's not as time consuming either.
So it's really freed up a lot of time.
And that's where I decidedto produce the book.
Stephanie (13:32):
So I saw this on Facebook and I thought, oh my gosh, this is brilliant.
This is spectacular.
I want this book.
So you have photographed people ofevery age from one to a hundred.
Yes.
How was that process?
Daniele (13:48):
a lot of fun.
Yeah, I didn't.
I was really excitedabout it when I started.
I wanted the visual of turningthe page and having people age.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
And that's
Daniele (14:00):
where it started, just that whole idea of going from zero to a hundred.
I have about, Six peopleleft to photograph now, so I
photographed 94 people already,
Stephanie (14:16):
which
Daniele (14:16):
has been Just really interesting.
So I did a headshot of everybody andthen I actually photographed everybody's
hands, which nobody knows about yet.
Oh my gosh.
Is it okay to publish this secret?
Yes.
Cause we'll be producingthe book here pretty quick.
not only will you see everybody ageand the passing of time in their,
(14:39):
faces, but you'll also get to seeit in their hands, which I think
will be really cool in the book.
Stephanie (14:44):
I love that.
I love that even, I'm an ex criticalcare nurse and, My mom had like
a debilitating disease and I usedto do her nails all the time.
And there were a few times where Itook pictures of our hands together
because I used to use those littlenail stickers on her, and I would take
a picture of like my hand under herhand and like to show my sisters out of
town, like what her nails looked like.
(15:06):
And those are some of mymost precious memories.
It's like our hands likeon top of each other.
so that's really beautiful.
where can people find this book?
How can people purchase
Daniele (15:17):
it?
once it's published, it's going to beavailable right from me to begin with.
Okay.
And then I'm going to try to figureout some, a couple different locations
maybe in town to get it into.
and I'm submitting it forthe next Time Capsule.
Ah!
Oh my gosh, that's so cool.
I have a really good friend whois actually, 31 in the book and
(15:40):
she was in and we were talkingabout it and she suggested I
submit it for the time capsule.
So the time capsule gets, buried andthen they'll open it in 25 years.
Stephanie (15:49):
the city of Marquette.
Right.
Okay.
And they
Daniele (15:51):
just opened.
Right.
Right.
Their last one.
Stephanie (15:54):
Oh my gosh.
Daniele (15:55):
I know.
I was like, perfect timing.
Absolutely.
Perfect timing.
Stephanie (15:58):
my goodness.
Yeah.
would you ever do like the TV six craftshow or do you think that you'd have
your book in some of those locations?
I don't know.
Okay.
I really, I don't know yet.
That's a good idea though.
So in order for people tofind your book, tell us how we
can find you on social media.
Okay.
So it's Daniele Carol.
Daniele (16:18):
across all platforms.
Okay.
So if the website DanieleCarol.
com, Facebook, Daniele Carol company, butif you just put in my name, I come up all
the Google searches, my face right there.
Wonderful.
Your beautiful face,
Stephanie (16:34):
which we'll put a picture of your face on the
cover of this podcast episode.
So Daniele, now I'm going to talka little bit about how you met me.
we know how we met as you, you being myphotographer, but you're also my patient.
And so you originally came to me.
let's talk a little bit aboutyour body, your physical body.
Daniele (16:54):
what's funny.
You remember how youapproached me for the photos.
I remember how I approachedyou for, chiropractic care.
I had come in to deliver your photosand I was, I had been in so much
pain and I'm looking around going.
Can I talk to you for, and I rememberI go, can I talk to you for a minute?
(17:17):
And we came in the office and I,remember just laying it all out.
I had my twisted psoas.
That was one of the firsttrigger points of everything.
And I had gotten a shot for it.
I had, seen a specialist that saidnothing was wrong and all these things.
(17:38):
And I just felt compelledto tell you the story.
I wasn't even a patient yet, but Ijust wanted to tell you the story.
And then from there you were like,I have ideas and you fixed it.
Stephanie (17:51):
I remember that.
Wow.
That's beautiful and profound.
And you know what I think is so cooltoo is that so many people are like,
that's not a chiropractic problem, right?
It's in my leg or my problem isin my arm or my problem is, here
or there outside of the spine.
And a lot of times chiropractic can help.
Daniele (18:11):
That's really cool.
I think it was just on topof everything, you really
listening, to what was going on.
Stephanie (18:20):
it definitely helped.
Yeah.
I'm so glad.
a lot of times on that first orsecond visit, I tell my patients
that, I'm really a detective, right?
I'm really like trying to find out,okay, is it starting from here?
Is it radiating from here?
Is like, where is the source?
And then what is the dominoeffect down the line?
Exactly.
(18:40):
And with most,
Daniele (18:42):
doctors, traditional doctors.
If they can't see it, touch it, feel it,smell it, they don't know what to do.
And that's unfortunate.
That we don't see anything isn't theanswer, that there, you can go further
and look into other ways to get better.
Stephanie (18:59):
Absolutely.
what a beautiful relationship we have,patient, chiropractor, photographer,
woman, family member, and I'mso grateful for you in my life.
Yeah, I am so grateful for you, Stephanie.
Thank you so much.
for being on this podcast.
Thank you.
I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Thank you so much for listening.
If you've enjoyed this podcast,would you please rate it,
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You can find me on Social Mediaat WautierWellness.com, Dr.
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(19:46):
Produced by Brand|Sound Podcasts.
Hi, this is Dr.
Stephanie Wautier, and I'm the hostof Conversations with a Chiropractor.
This is not a health how to, butrather a conversation with some
amazing people I've had the pleasureof being with on my journey of life.
Think of it more like Tuesdays with Maury.
A fireside chat orchicken soup for the soul.
(00:27):
Grab a cup of coffee, sit back and enjoythis conversation with a chiropractor.
Daniele, thank you so muchfor being on this podcast.
Daniele (00:46):
Thank you for having me.
Stephanie (00:47):
So I want to tell the funny story of how we met.
I was, a mom wanting to do somekind of grown up family pictures.
It was 2016.
And I remember harassing you, like callingyou and emailing you because people
were like, Daniele Carol is the best.
You've got to have herdo your family pictures.
And you were like, I just had a baby.
I promise I'll do them,but I just had a baby.
(01:10):
.... So, I felt like perhaps foreverI would be known as, the
annoying woman who harassed you.
Daniele (01:17):
No, I don't remember that.
Now that you say that, I doremember our first pictures were
in like November, December of 2016.
November.
Yep.
November.
Yeah.
I do remember that.
That's too funny.
And Asher was born in October of 2016.
So you
Stephanie (01:32):
were a first.
Fresh postpartum mama,fresh mom with number three.
And, yeah, and you've alwaysdone beautiful pictures.
And since that time you've donebusiness pictures for me and now you
just did my son's senior pictures.
So you're definitely ourfamily's photographer.
Yeah.
How did you get into photography?
Daniele (01:52):
I was 16 years old in high school and my, one of my really good friends was
taking a photography class through schooland I wanted to hang out with her more.
And so I signed up and I took my juniorand senior year, took photography
classes through school, and then myteacher at the time was a really big
(02:15):
wedding photographer out where we lived.
I had asked him if I could come to someof the weddings with him and he agreed.
he loved my work that I had donein class and just gave me a camera,
told me what to do, and I just wentaround and shot a bunch of pictures.
Stephanie (02:30):
I don't want to say assistant because you were
actually taking the pictures, butfeet wet, boots on the ground.
There you are.
Daniele (02:37):
Diving right in.
Yeah.
Wow.
And I loved that so much.
There was one brick and mortar,photographer that was in Upland and
we would go to the street fairs,the downtown farmers market type
thing, And I would harass him andbeg him to let me work in the studio.
I just, I don't know why I was somotivated to be there, but I was like, my
(03:00):
mom can drop me off or I can drive and.
Stephanie (03:03):
This is in high school.
Daniele (03:04):
This is in high school.
And I was just, I wasvery persistent with him.
Finally, he let me hang out and starthelping out and things like that.
And he did very high end portraits andvery high end weddings, like thousands.
And this was back in early 2000s.
Stephanie (03:24):
where was this again?
Daniele (03:26):
Alto Loma, California.
Upland, California, RanchoCucamonga, that area east of LA.
Stephanie (03:32):
So you went to high school in California?
Daniele (03:34):
Yes.
Stephanie (03:35):
Okay.
Daniele (03:35):
Yep.
So it started out there.
And then, Jerry was the guy,he let me work for him there.
We were, it was all film back then.
It was medium format film.
So I would stand, sit at the top,like behind the couple and we would
project the stuff onto the wall andthey would order pictures like that.
(03:56):
I had been going on weddings with himand shooting and I was up there and
it came to my rolls of film and the.
I remember that bride being so in lovewith the pictures that I had taken and
just, I love that one and that one.
And can I get this one?
I remember that momentbeing the, I should do this.
(04:18):
I love this and.
And that was it.
it sparked the whole thing to reallywant to go into it as a career.
Like I remember that as my moment.
Stephanie (04:28):
was still in high school.
You were still in high school.
I was still in high school.
I think about this, like withwhatever profession, like People who
are on the stage and it's that likeaudience feedback that fuels them.
So it sounds like you were reallyfueled by this, like reaction
to the pictures that you took.
Yep, absolutely.
So here we are in Marquette, Michigan.
Tell me what happened between highschool and how did you get here?
Daniele (04:52):
So, high school in Alto Loma, and then I went to Brooks Institute of
Photography, which was in Santa Barbara,and while I was in school, my parents
moved to Rochester Hills, Michigan.
Stephanie (05:03):
Okay.
Daniele (05:03):
And then after school, I moved in with them, so I drove across the
country with one of my best friends,and moved in with them there, and then
my would be ex husband was living downthere, and I met .... him and then we
moved up here because he was from up here.
So in 2006, we moved up hereand I've been here ever since.
Stephanie (05:25):
so California of course is so known for the arts
and the television industry.
this place that you went to school forphotography must have been very elite.
Daniele (05:34):
It was a, three years, year round, all immersive,
just photography school.
We took two classes at a time, onephoto class, one elective, which
was also super photo focused.
Stephanie (05:48):
Like editing and was there A science,
Daniele (05:51):
So if we had light science classes to learn about how all light
works, all different types of bulbs andhow light reacts with different things
Stephanie (06:00):
and, yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
Which is why the picturesturn out so amazing.
Yeah.
Once you know Because you'relike the lighting expert.
Expert, like I, I remember having anamazing reaction to photos you had taken.
I look so good.
Yeah.
How did you do that?
What tricks did you use?
Yeah.
Oh, just lighting.
Yeah.
No filters, just lighting.
Just lighting.
Yeah.
You hear me say it all
Daniele (06:20):
the time.
Let me check my light.
Let me check my light.
Stephanie (06:23):
yes.
So 2006, you come up to the UP and youwill in the 10 years from 2006 to 2016.
You had three children.
Yes.
And launched a business in Marquette.
Yes.
So you launched a business thatwas not brick and mortar at first.
Is that right?
Daniele (06:42):
Correct.
Yeah.
So I started the businesswhen I lived downstate.
I was working for, a photographycompany and then a couple other
photographers like assisting and stuffand then started the business and
started to pull in my own clients.
I'm 21 at the time, Ireally wanted to do it.
I wanted to quit theother jobs and everything.
(07:04):
So once I knew I had enough, I waslike, clients for the next year,
booked up and I knew the weddingindustry, so I did a lot of that.
there was some big event typethings that I would go to down
there to photograph and stuff, butI really loved weddings at the time.
Stephanie (07:20):
so you're building your business downstate and you have all
these clients that you've gotten, whichI'm sure was very you were probably
very courageous as a 21 year old tobe building your business because,
Detroit area, Ann Arbor, I imaginethere was a lot of photographers.
Daniele (07:37):
Lots of photographers, lots of people, lots of competition.
Yep.
Exactly.
So I had started the business down there.
And then once I moved up here,I, would travel back and forth.
So I'd book things downstate.
My parents still live down there.
So I would ... Book some stuff staywith them and then come back up
here and started to try to build thebusiness up here from home at the time.
Stephanie (08:01):
that is so difficult to be like living and having businesses in two
different cities that are so far away.
Yep.
So you ended up buying LemonsStudio, which was it like a
downtown staple photographer.
Tell me about that process.
Daniele (08:18):
So in 2016, somebody, a little birdie came and told my assistant at the
time that Lemons was for sale and, we werelooking to get out of our, location in
Negaunee, just because we had outgrown it.
I went in and checked it outand it was perfect because it
was already a photo studio.
(08:39):
So it was pretty much already set up.
the current owners at the time were justwonderful and ready to move on to other
things and really helped out a lot with.
that transition of buying the buildingand moving in there and taking over
their clients and things like that.
it was finalized in March of 2017.
Stephanie (09:00):
Okay.
Yeah.
And so here we are in 2024 and you'restill in that space, but your business
is changing a little bit and has changed.
Daniele (09:09):
It really has.
Yeah.
It's really evolved over the years.
I started out with mostly weddingsand then those people started
having babies and families.
And so I segued into that.
And then I did lots of newbornswhen my baby started to arrive.
I remember wanting to take picturesof my own baby and seeing all these
(09:34):
beautiful posed portraits of babies.
So I tried it out on a friend'sand it was so difficult.
It was so hard.
I had no idea what I was doing.
I knew the light.
I didn't know how to work with a baby.
Stephanie (09:46):
Oh my gosh.
Probably the most difficultsubject ever, right?
Daniele (09:50):
unpredictable.
And just floppy and just everything.
it was great, but I didn'tknow what I was doing.
So I went into, I went to a couple ofseminars and classes and worked with
women who were already doing this andtop of their game and learned from
them because If something's reallydifficult, I have to figure it out.
(10:13):
I'm not going to just stopat, Oh, I can't do this.
So I really focused on the newborns,started to do fewer and fewer weddings.
and then I got into the Lemon Studioand they had a huge senior business.
So I started picking up more seniors,ended up loving that just as much as
I loved the newborns and even moreso push the weddings to the side.
(10:36):
And then basically 2020 cameand things all hit the fan.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
And
Daniele (10:46):
I will say like disposable income that people use for photography
kind of dwindled at that point.
And I was already into the businessside, the headshots, branding,
billboards, products, things like that.
I didn't take a lot of it just becauseI was so busy with other things.
And so I never promoted that I didthat kind of stuff, but it became
(11:11):
more of the bread and butter.
Businesses still had to have things done.
They had the budget for it.
They, needed
Stephanie (11:19):
it.
and, as a business owner, we were all inthis survival mode and also, the whole
world was in this, what's happening?
How long is this going to happen?
I think so unpredictable, right?
And any successful business owner wouldtell you that your ability to pivot proves
how successful you can be, or just eventhat you didn't close your business down.
(11:40):
you and I probably have several,even mutual acquaintances who
didn't make it through COVID, right?
Yeah.
bravo to you for being able to likepivot and shift and continue to use
those skills, continue to benefitpeople, you have to move and change and
shift and going back to how you evengot away from the wedding industry.
(12:01):
I can imagine with three young kidsand the intensity of those weddings
and the weekends and like basicallyyou probably As a wedding photographer
are booked up every weekend.
Daniele (12:13):
Exactly.
Stephanie (12:14):
And I mean, you know, That started
Daniele (12:16):
to become really hard on the family.
Stephanie (12:17):
Yeah, absolutely.
So it's 2020 and you're shifting and yourbusiness is changing organically as it is.
and then tell me what'shappened since then.
Daniele (12:27):
it was a great transition.
I really like where I'm at withthe business side of things.
It's crazy to be here at all.
Like you said, pivoting and then moldingit to what fits life today, basically.
I have always wanted toproduce a coffee table album.
(12:48):
when I was between 16 and, early twenties,I would spend my time in Barnes and
Nobles, their coffee shop, grab a coffeeand just sit in their art section.
I don't like to read books.
I like to flip through pictures.
That's so visual.
Stephanie (13:05):
Absolutely.
Daniele (13:05):
Audiobook
Stephanie (13:07):
looking at
Daniele (13:08):
so because I've transitioned into the more business type stuff,
it's not as creative, it's much morestraightforward, but that lighting has to
Speaker 3 (13:17):
be perfect.
Daniele (13:18):
Exactly.
Everyone wants to look good.
No matter what you're doing.
And that's, but it's not As super creativeand it's not as time consuming either.
So it's really freed up a lot of time.
And that's where I decidedto produce the book.
Stephanie (13:32):
So I saw this on Facebook and I thought, oh my gosh, this is brilliant.
This is spectacular.
I want this book.
So you have photographed people ofevery age from one to a hundred.
Yes.
How was that process?
Daniele (13:48):
a lot of fun.
Yeah, I didn't.
I was really excitedabout it when I started.
I wanted the visual of turningthe page and having people age.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
And that's
Daniele (14:00):
where it started, just that whole idea of going from zero to a hundred.
I have about, Six peopleleft to photograph now, so I
photographed 94 people already,
Stephanie (14:16):
which
Daniele (14:16):
has been Just really interesting.
So I did a headshot of everybody andthen I actually photographed everybody's
hands, which nobody knows about yet.
Oh my gosh.
Is it okay to publish this secret?
Yes.
Cause we'll be producingthe book here pretty quick.
not only will you see everybody ageand the passing of time in their,
(14:39):
faces, but you'll also get to seeit in their hands, which I think
will be really cool in the book.
Stephanie (14:44):
I love that.
I love that even, I'm an ex criticalcare nurse and, My mom had like
a debilitating disease and I usedto do her nails all the time.
And there were a few times where Itook pictures of our hands together
because I used to use those littlenail stickers on her, and I would take
a picture of like my hand under herhand and like to show my sisters out of
town, like what her nails looked like.
(15:06):
And those are some of mymost precious memories.
It's like our hands likeon top of each other.
so that's really beautiful.
where can people find this book?
How can people purchase
Daniele (15:17):
it?
once it's published, it's going to beavailable right from me to begin with.
Okay.
And then I'm going to try to figureout some, a couple different locations
maybe in town to get it into.
and I'm submitting it forthe next Time Capsule.
Ah!
Oh my gosh, that's so cool.
I have a really good friend whois actually, 31 in the book and
(15:40):
she was in and we were talkingabout it and she suggested I
submit it for the time capsule.
So the time capsule gets, buried andthen they'll open it in 25 years.
Stephanie (15:49):
the city of Marquette.
Right.
Okay.
And they
Daniele (15:51):
just opened.
Right.
Right.
Their last one.
Stephanie (15:54):
Oh my gosh.
Daniele (15:55):
I know.
I was like, perfect timing.
Absolutely.
Perfect timing.
Stephanie (15:58):
my goodness.
Yeah.
would you ever do like the TV six craftshow or do you think that you'd have
your book in some of those locations?
I don't know.
Okay.
I really, I don't know yet.
That's a good idea though.
So in order for people tofind your book, tell us how we
can find you on social media.
Okay.
So it's Daniele Carol.
Daniele (16:18):
across all platforms.
Okay.
So if the website DanieleCarol.
com, Facebook, Daniele Carol company, butif you just put in my name, I come up all
the Google searches, my face right there.
Wonderful.
Your beautiful face,
Stephanie (16:34):
which we'll put a picture of your face on the
cover of this podcast episode.
So Daniele, now I'm going to talka little bit about how you met me.
we know how we met as you, you being myphotographer, but you're also my patient.
And so you originally came to me.
let's talk a little bit aboutyour body, your physical body.
Daniele (16:54):
what's funny.
You remember how youapproached me for the photos.
I remember how I approachedyou for, chiropractic care.
I had come in to deliver your photosand I was, I had been in so much
pain and I'm looking around going.
Can I talk to you for, and I rememberI go, can I talk to you for a minute?
(17:17):
And we came in the office and I,remember just laying it all out.
I had my twisted psoas.
That was one of the firsttrigger points of everything.
And I had gotten a shot for it.
I had, seen a specialist that saidnothing was wrong and all these things.
(17:38):
And I just felt compelledto tell you the story.
I wasn't even a patient yet, but Ijust wanted to tell you the story.
And then from there you were like,I have ideas and you fixed it.
Stephanie (17:51):
I remember that.
Wow.
That's beautiful and profound.
And you know what I think is so cooltoo is that so many people are like,
that's not a chiropractic problem, right?
It's in my leg or my problem isin my arm or my problem is, here
or there outside of the spine.
And a lot of times chiropractic can help.
Daniele (18:11):
That's really cool.
I think it was just on topof everything, you really
listening, to what was going on.
Stephanie (18:20):
it definitely helped.
Yeah.
I'm so glad.
a lot of times on that first orsecond visit, I tell my patients
that, I'm really a detective, right?
I'm really like trying to find out,okay, is it starting from here?
Is it radiating from here?
Is like, where is the source?
And then what is the dominoeffect down the line?
Exactly.
(18:40):
And with most,
Daniele (18:42):
doctors, traditional doctors.
If they can't see it, touch it, feel it,smell it, they don't know what to do.
And that's unfortunate.
That we don't see anything isn't theanswer, that there, you can go further
and look into other ways to get better.
Stephanie (18:59):
Absolutely.
what a beautiful relationship we have,patient, chiropractor, photographer,
woman, family member, and I'mso grateful for you in my life.
Yeah, I am so grateful for you, Stephanie.
Thank you so much.
for being on this podcast.
Thank you.
I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Thank you so much for listening.
If you've enjoyed this podcast,would you please rate it,
review it, like, or subscribe.
You can find me on Social Mediaat WautierWellness.com, Dr.
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on Facebook, and I'm so curious whereyour next conversation will take you.
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