November 8, 2024 • 28 mins
Welcome to Episode 19!
In this episode, Julie shares a remarkable story about the reincarnation of her dog, exploring the spiritual connection we share with animals and how they bring love and creativity into our lives.
The Reincarnation of Guinness
- Julie tells the story of her beloved dog Guinness, who, after passing, returned as "Guinness 2.0" through a remarkable series of events with a medium.
- This experience deepened her understanding of animals as spiritual beings and her connection with them.
Animals as Tuning Forks for Creativity
- Julie reflects on how animals help us enter a non-judgmental, creative flow state. In her branding, dogs symbolize resilience and joy, aligning perfectly with her creative work.
- Having pets around, she believes, enhances our ability to let go and experience spontaneous creativity.
Honoring Beliefs
- Julie emphasizes that her journey respects all beliefs, with animals reflecting the owner's spiritual openness.
- This episode reinforces the idea that we can find love and creativity through animals, while honoring our personal beliefs.
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Hello and welcome to this.. This is a crazy episode where I talk about the reincarnation. of my dog. And so it's, it's a, quite a. story. But it's, it's the foundation
to the last episode which is your spirit. honors your religious beliefs and. where that came from is the reincarnation of my dog.. So, and this is, I have my book with. me with my little notes. And this is our branding. Our branding is
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all about dogs. And we have our little underdog that. then becomes our superhero in our logo. And we use. dogs in everything. And the reason, and there's, there's
a deeper meaning to the dogs and that's what I'm going to tell you in. the story, this, today's story. But. it's, it's when we do our. marketing through our dogs. So if we did marketing with people
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and we told, we told, you. know,. people can be, people can be great, like. influencers.. They can, you know that people, people are good for marketing.
Like, you know, they, you can see a picture and go, I want to be. like that, I want to feel like that. But we have a tendency when we. look at people to judge and. we judge everything. And the way social media
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has changed our,. our brains to work is that we judge faster and faster and faster. We judge. by the way they look, the way they show up. We judge everything about
people. But when we in the space is all about. non judgment. You don't judge ideas. It's about quantity,
not quality. You're not going to, you know, you're trying to create ideas.. You're trying to be in this space of spontaneous. creativity, flow of ideas. You want to start operating in the flow. You
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want to question all your judgments. You want to be like, hmm, that's curious.. It made me angry. What is, what is behind that?. So the whole idea is that you are
in this non judgment space and that. you're able to receive the message. You're in this non. judgment space. You're able to hear the message, receive
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the message, connect with the creativity. that was behind the advertisement, the creativity of. what we're doing and the, so. you can see it in. And I'll get a little bit close to the camera,
you can see the spirit of the animal. And if you had. a person doing this, you would immediately say, oh, that's goofy, that's. silly, that's just ridiculous. I'm not going to,
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you know, you would have all these judgments around it and you would immediately dismiss. it and it wouldn't create it. But when you See an animal doing. this, that you can connect with it on that level.. And, you know, so the reason we use dogs and
the reason we just went through this whole exercise of like, why we use dogs. was the spiritual component to animals. And. so, you know, we started talking about tuning forks. We
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started talking about, you know, how our religion is one of our tuning. forks. Our religious practices are our tuning forks, you know, that. grounded that, you know, walking in nature,. you know, it might be taking a run, it might be swimming, it might be
connected to water, it might be all these different things. Your tuning forks,. you know, your religious practices, your prayer, your meditation, all. of those things. That idea of giving it up to God is. The
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whole idea is to get out of your head and start connecting with. this space of creativity. And so. animals allow us to do that. That's why cat videos are so cool, because
people, you know, you're doing animals, doing these creative things,. help us see it in a way that we're not judgmental when a. human does it. So that's why our marketing is. built around dogs. But there's also a deeper spiritual
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component to me, which is the reincarnation of my. dog. So let's start with that story.. So again, this is hard for people that have a. fundamental religion when I start talking about
mediums. But then I've been to 5. medium 5 times in my life and it's had the biggest. alterations. So like, my, you know, daughter that felt she
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wasn't smart told, you know, medium said, you gotta fix this.. So that's the first time I went to a medium. And. she's like, you gotta fix this. And I'm like, okay. So I
did, and, you know, I helped her correct her course. of not being smart. And now, you know, she's emergency medical. doctor. And. And so,
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you know, that's. So there's a value there. So the second time I went to. a medium, I went with my friend Amy.. And the medium doesn't this. In this case, she doesn't let us go in
together, where now we have a different medium and she lets us go in together.. It's a really cool experience. Anyway,. so I'm in the waiting room and there's this book that. I pick up, and the book is Pets Tell the
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Truth by AGNES Julia Thomas, PhD.. And I start reading the. back of it and it's how to Talk to. Animals, how to connect with and how to Talk to Animals. And
I'm like, oh, my gosh. I'm like, I need this.. So what had happened was. we had. We had a Wheaton terrier.
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And Wheaton terriers typically live. eight to 10 years. And for their. breed. And
he, he was having some medical issues and. he was 9. And we're like, okay, this is it.. And I wanted, I wanted to get new carpet in my. house. So I, what we decided
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was we were going to reload with our,. our replacement dogs now because. we know he's on his last legs, we know it's end of life for him.. And I'm going to reload with this new new. dogs. And that way I can get my new carpet, get them
trained, and then get my new carpet. I don't care if they pee on the. old carpet, but I can get my new carpet. So. anyway, we got little dogs. So, you know, Wheaton terriers are
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like medium sized dogs, especially the American. ones. I think one or the other. There's American Wheat and terriers and English. Wheaton terriers. Anyway, the one shorter and one's taller. This is a taller in
stature dog. And he wasn't doing well. Anyway,. so the little dogs. just peed everywhere, like, and they wouldn't stop peeing
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everywhere. And we couldn't housebreak them. They just were ridiculous to. housebreak. And I picked this book up and it's like, how to talk to Animals.
And I'm like, I got to give it a shot. I've got to figure out. how to talk to animals, you know, so I can tell them,. don't pee in the house. You go outside.
Anyway, so I started reading this book and it was. amazing. Like, truly amazing. Like something. I'd never heard before. Like, I just was like, I'm like, it just
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like totally changed my world because it's like, oh, my God.. Like you. No one ever talks about talking to animals. No one ever talks. about Dr. Do Little being, you know, like a real thing, you
know. And, and so this woman, she's actually. And. that's where the credibility. Instead of like dismissing it. Oh, that's like voodoo
or. Oh, yeah, that's just crazy.. So anyway, she's a medical doctor at the Cleveland Clinic and we're. here in Akron. So Cleveland Clinic is like the, you know, and if you're a
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medical doctor and she's talking about how it works and basically. that they don't have language. Like we have language. They don't use. that. But you can ask them questions and then they send back
pictures. So. Or you can talk to. them. Just their responses are all pictures.
So what she does is, you know, she talks to them. and she deals With a lot of end of life dogs. where you're, you're trying to make the decision of should you. put the dog to sleep? You know, is the dog really suffering? Is it their. time? It's a really tough decision for a dog owner. You can see they're
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suffering, you can see they're in pain, but are they ready to go? You know,. do they want this option, you know, of, you know, putting them out. of their misery? And so. she works with a lot of people talking to their. animals and, you know,
you know, ask them, is it time to go?. So, and the. whole mechanism is that she. asks them a question and then they send back pictures. And so, you
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know, like, let's say, you know, are you,. you know, and she gets back answers. Like they will send a picture of. the organs or the body that is hurting and she. will, you know, and sorry, I mean, to tap on that.
So she, they would send back pictures of what they're. experiencing, like where the pain is, where it is. And because she's a. medical doctor, she can diagnose what the issue. is. So it's really interesting. And
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she does it for both emotional and she does it for, you. know, physical. She diagnoses dogs. like what's really going on. And she can do it with any
type of animal. I mean, it's not just dogs, but she. can't do it with. And this is where my whole theory of. religious beliefs comes from. She cannot talk to
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animals if the owner. is of like a religion where this is not a. cool, okay, so the animal. honors your religious beliefs. And
for me, that was. There's so many takeaways from this. Honest to God, there's. so many takeaways. So, so that's
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where the whole theory started that there's nothing wrong with your religious beliefs,. that your religious beliefs are absolutely fabulous and that your spirit. honors your religious beliefs too. And that in these programs,. in everything I'm talking about, that is the one sacred thing,
is that this is not about changing your religious. beliefs, that your spirit, there's a reason. you have the belief systems that you have, and that. if your animals honor it too, then it is my. responsibility to honor it too, and not say anything that,
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that interferes with that or, or changes your belief. system or anything. So this process. of speaking to animals will not work for you. if you, you know. So her first thing is to ask
permission to the animal and the animal will tell her right away, no, I can't. talk to you because my owner, this is not within their belief. system. And so this is where my whole theory comes from. of when you die, that your spirit honors this
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too, that this is all part of. So if you believe, you go to heaven.. You go to heaven. If you believe that, that's it, that's the end, that's. the end. If you believe that you're going to live 50,000 lives,
you're going to live, you're going to come back for the next one, and that. there is no wrong answer here and that, that. we should be more tolerant of other people's belief systems instead. of saying that's wrong or judgmental. Because the
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whole idea is not to judge. It's to be in a space of love and. kindness and support. So anyway, back to the book. So
that's where that whole theory comes from. And I really, truly believe it. I. absolutely believe that what we're talking about here. is really truth, truth about
animals. And, you know, the other takeaway was. that the dog's purpose is for people to experience. love. So, and you can, when you actually focus on it,
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when that, you know, you're having a bad day and that animal crawls up next. to you and they feel it when you're not feeling well, when they, when you're. not in a great headspace, that animal will come up tank next to you.. And just their presence, the wagging of the. tail, the interaction, the pet me,
the, you know, the asking for that is they're drawing attention. away from your mental suffering and putting you in a space. of love and healing. And that's animals. And
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she says quite clearly that's the purpose of animals, is to help. us experience more love. That's it. Whole. purpose of dogs help us to experience more love.
And I love that. I think that's so profound and so amazing and so. wonderful. So anyway, back to my reincarnation story.. So our last name is Stout, and our first, you
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know, married couple dog was Guinness. So it's. Guinness Stout. And he was nine years old and he was. really suffering. And that
morning he had tried to walk downstairs. and his legs gave out and he just kind of fell downstairs.. And it was really heart wrenching. And I'm like, look, I read this.. Tell my husband this. I read this book. There's
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this woman and I explained her and she can talk to him. and ask him if it's time, you know, is it. time to put you to sleep?. Anyway. And so, you know, my
husband's like, I don't know, you know, so I'm. like, let me just, let me just, let me Just do this. Okay. You know,. I'm like, I read this whole book. Everything in it just made so much
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sense, you know, and the other thing, too, is I tested it and. practiced it. So one of my coolest party tricks, when we're. al fresco outside, if we have.. If we have, like, a bee or a wasp or a
fly that's just really bothering our dinner party outside,. that I, you know, I do this practice where you kind of go inside and. you just talk to them, and I ask them politely, very politely and nicely. to go away. And, you know, they're bothering us. Please go away. And they
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disappear. You know, that pesky fly and everything.. And, like, oh, you know. So I tell all the guests, don't. worry, I'll ask them to leave. And they do. And it just
like, you know, part of it's like, yeah, I can do this. And I'm like,. you, too, can do this. Everybody can do this. But anyway, so it's.
And I always call it the weird world I live in, you know. So, anyway,. it's my coolest party trick. But back. to the story. So. And I have to put these little. Because this story is
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going to make you cry. We cried our eyes out when this. So anyway, so. we call her and, you know, we set up an appointment with her. She calls
back, and she charges $50 to do this.. And, you know, we've already reloaded with. two dogs. Two. Because we got one dog, and then the puppy was too
much work because we were working from home, and so then we got another. one, so they had someone to play with. So we had three dogs at the. time. We had three dogs, and that was way too many dogs, especially the little
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ones peeing everywhere. So. we called her up and,. you know, and I explained the situation. I said, I read her book, and she
was teaching courses everywhere now before I got on this podcast, I meant to look. her up and just see if she's still alive because she was, you know, senior. when she wrote this. So,. you know, I explained the situation. I explained.
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And, you know, so she asked a. few questions, like, tell us, you know, his name and his breed. And,. you know, and then she connected with him, and she said, you. know, he had lymphoma throughout his stomach
and that, you know, so she started talking to. him back and forth, and she said, you. know, your mom and dad can. take you, and you can. have, you know, they can give you this. This shot.
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It's two shots, and one will relax you, and then the. other one will, you know, help you. to, you know, leave this body and be out of this. pain. And, you know,
would you. Is it time? Would you like. that? Is that something that you would want?. And he said, yes, that's something I would. want. And then the next part of it that I wasn't prepared
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for, she asked, do you want to come. back? And I'm like, oh, my. God. I wasn't ready for that question. We just reloaded with
two dogs. Do you want to come back? You know, you have the. opportunity. She said, you know, you're going to be. You're going to be
around your mom and dad for about, you know, a. week, and then you're going to go pass onto the other. side, and you're going to be there for, you. know, basically three months. Your soul has to be, you know, and you're going to
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be around mom and dad. You're going to see them, but your soul has to,. like, regenerate a little bit, and then you have the chance to. come back in another dog's body. And what would you
like to be? And he's like, well, I want to be the same thing. I. want to be a Wheaton again. And she's like, okay, well, you can be a. Wheaton again, and you'll come back. And what will happen is we will. We
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will check in with you, and we will follow your soul and we'll find out. where you are, and we'll come get you. And I'm like, I. wasn't prepared for three dogs. And I'm like, another puppy.
I'm like, oh, my God. But, you know, you're so emotional at the time.. So emotional. You're like. You're like.
You're just. You're just like, yes, of course we want our dog. back, you know. Of course we do. So,
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anyway, so, you know,. we took him to the vet, and the. vet said, oh, my gosh, this is. You. know, we held him and they did the two shots.
And the vet said, this is one of the most peaceful training. transitions we've ever experienced. Like,. usually the dog is nervous, hesitant. He can feel what's
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going on and everything, but this. This dog was so. peaceful. Anyway, we were just absolute basket cases. I mean, to call
the vet. Like, I hung up on the vet, like, my husband just. couldn't do it. And I hung up on the vet, like, four times. Like, I
couldn't get the words. I'm like, we've got to. And I was. crying, and I couldn't do it. And then we went and we were crying the
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whole Time. And then our vet was on vacation, so we. had to go to this other vet. And I'm crying now.. Sorry. And then we just went into the Target parking lot and we just
bawled our eyes out afterwards. Absolutely bawled our. eyes out. But there's nothing like helping. the transition of a pet knowing that they can come back.
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wait a couple weeks. You know, it's been a. It's been like 13 years ago. this was. So you wait a couple weeks, and then you connect with her, and
she. She connects with the dog on the other. side, and just to make sure everything's good. and everything's, you know, everything's okay. And then she
asks him what happened. So,. you know, she's connecting with his soul on the other side. And she said, well,. you know, tell us about your experience. What happened? And he said, this
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angel came down, and she was this beautiful. blonde angel, and he licked her neck,. and she took him to the other side.. Well, we built our. house right behind our best friend's house, and
their mother lived with them till she passed. And she didn't do. anything except, like help raise their kids and, you know, put our kids on. and off the bus and things like that. And when we had
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him as a puppy, she would come out every. When we had real jobs. We. had real jobs before when we had him as a puppy. And she would come
over every day and let him out, like twice a day, the cage. And whenever. she let him out, he would always lick her neck, you know. And she had. passed, you know, a few years earlier. And, you know, this was Arlene.
And the angel of. Arlene came down and took him to the other. side. And. it was. And then. Where is he now? Well, he is
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in this beautiful house with. this man. And this man has this lake in. front of his house, and he has all these pets that have passed that. he's taken care of. And she described the man, and it
was. It was my husband's father. My. husband's father passed tragically at 56 years old.. And he. But he always was about
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money. You know, he always. They always had nice things. He. always, you know, just, you know,
and he was the keeper of all the animals. And he was. protecting the souls of all the. Taking care of all the animals that had. passed. Isn't that funny? So, you know, she's
describing everything and it's definitely my husband's. father. Anyway, so, you. know, three months went by, she checked in, he was. doing great. He was having a great time. He was free of this body and
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all this pain. And three months went by and. we were supposed to call back and start, we would start to track his. soul. And we called back in three months
and he had not found a body yet. And you know, we're. like, pick a good body, please pick a good body. Okay,. so, you know, we. And he didn't pick a
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body yet. So a month later we called back and she checked in and she. said, I think he's going to pick a body in this place with this litter.. And then we confirmed it. And
so we, you know, contacted the owner,. the breeder, and we're like, hey, you know,. explain this story, this crazy story.. We're tracking down the soul of our past dog.. And you know, he's like, okay, you know, and I said, you've just
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had this litter born and that, you know, we have to. basically hold each one of them while we've got this person on the. phone and she's going to check in with each animal and tell. us which one is our dog,. you know. So we did that. We
went down and we visited. We had her on the phone. We held each one. of them, the puppies, out of the litter. I think there was like six
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puppies. And. finally this one we held. And she said, that's the one. That's,
that's him. So we, you know, I don't know how they all. looked alike, these little puppies. They were all, you know, soft coated wheat and dairy.. They all looked alike. So. But the breeder said,
yeah, okay, we'll keep that one aside for you. That's it. So, you. know, I don't know, I think it was like six weeks later we came back. and we got our puppy. And when he came home, he had a lot of
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the mannerisms of Guinness. We. made him Guinness again. Guinness stout, but we call him Guinness. 2.0. And
he, you know, laid where the other dog laid under my. dad's, I mean, my dad, my husband's desk, you know, he had a lot of. the mannerisms. The only thing that did. not work out was he did not pick a good body.
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No siree. I think he, maybe he was just urgent in getting back. to us, you know, it been, you know, at three months he was looking for. a body and finally at four months he's like, this is the best I can. do. But he's had all kinds of health issues. He's got
thyroid, he's got, he has torn. ACLs. He has constant skin infections from. allergies. And it's a real battle to keep him
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healthy. But this is the deal.. The breed typically lives 8 to. 10 years old. And he, even with
all these issues, he's got arthritis. We have. him on Prozac because he's a little dog aggressive,. you know, like all these, you know, all these issues. and he, he's now going to be turning
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13 and he's lived three years past. So did he pick. a good body? I think so. Is it the same Guinness?. You know, he has this different personality. As he
got older and as he started having these health issues, he just had less. tolerance for the, the other dogs that came into the family, which like my. daughter's dogs and everything. So we ended. up with three dogs and then my daughter just petitioned,
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petitioned, petition, petitioned for her own dog. So we ended. up with four dogs. And. today, today we
have the senior senate one, Max. He passed and it was. so sad. And I'll do that another story, but it was. during COVID but he also had tons of issues. We
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have three dogs now. They're senior, senior dogs. The two girls are. deaf. They're, they pee everywhere. It's
just like the senior center for dogs because their pee is so strong now.. And it's all I do is clean carpets, clean carpets, clean carpets.. So. But I love them to death and it's the world I live in. And
13 year old Guinness 2.0 still kicking. it. But we're not, when he passes, we're not going. to make that phone call. So
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anyway, I hope it was a great story. It was really, it really. changed my relationship with animals. I. don't eat meat, but that's not because of that. That's my menopause story. And
maybe we will talk about that in my next episode.. But. And I have this. sacred relationship with all animals now. and it's, it's just very
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cool. It's very cool to experience the connection.. And they are very much part of the creative. flow. They are tuning forks.
So having your dogs in the office, having your cats around you, having. those animals around you, they all help you be more creative. and so start to see them as your tuning forks and that part of your. life that can not only bring joy, bring love,. that whole experience of animals. That's what their purpose
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is, and that's what they're there for. And, you know,. give them the gift of having them help you be more creative,. more loving, more centered, more letting go. And that's
the gift of the pets in your life. So thank you. And thank you for. listening all three episodes. But
I just wanted you to know that you're allowed to have your religious beliefs, and. we're not in any way going to change that. Thank you.
Hello and welcome to this.. This is a crazy episode where I talk about the reincarnation. of my dog. And so it's, it's a, quite a. story. But it's, it's the foundation
to the last episode which is your spirit. honors your religious beliefs and. where that came from is the reincarnation of my dog.. So, and this is, I have my book with. me with my little notes. And this is our branding. Our branding is
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all about dogs. And we have our little underdog that. then becomes our superhero in our logo. And we use. dogs in everything. And the reason, and there's, there's
a deeper meaning to the dogs and that's what I'm going to tell you in. the story, this, today's story. But. it's, it's when we do our. marketing through our dogs. So if we did marketing with people
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and we told, we told, you. know,. people can be, people can be great, like. influencers.. They can, you know that people, people are good for marketing.
Like, you know, they, you can see a picture and go, I want to be. like that, I want to feel like that. But we have a tendency when we. look at people to judge and. we judge everything. And the way social media
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has changed our,. our brains to work is that we judge faster and faster and faster. We judge. by the way they look, the way they show up. We judge everything about
people. But when we in the space is all about. non judgment. You don't judge ideas. It's about quantity,
not quality. You're not going to, you know, you're trying to create ideas.. You're trying to be in this space of spontaneous. creativity, flow of ideas. You want to start operating in the flow. You
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want to question all your judgments. You want to be like, hmm, that's curious.. It made me angry. What is, what is behind that?. So the whole idea is that you are
in this non judgment space and that. you're able to receive the message. You're in this non. judgment space. You're able to hear the message, receive
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the message, connect with the creativity. that was behind the advertisement, the creativity of. what we're doing and the, so. you can see it in. And I'll get a little bit close to the camera,
you can see the spirit of the animal. And if you had. a person doing this, you would immediately say, oh, that's goofy, that's. silly, that's just ridiculous. I'm not going to,
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you know, you would have all these judgments around it and you would immediately dismiss. it and it wouldn't create it. But when you See an animal doing. this, that you can connect with it on that level.. And, you know, so the reason we use dogs and
the reason we just went through this whole exercise of like, why we use dogs. was the spiritual component to animals. And. so, you know, we started talking about tuning forks. We
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started talking about, you know, how our religion is one of our tuning. forks. Our religious practices are our tuning forks, you know, that. grounded that, you know, walking in nature,. you know, it might be taking a run, it might be swimming, it might be
connected to water, it might be all these different things. Your tuning forks,. you know, your religious practices, your prayer, your meditation, all. of those things. That idea of giving it up to God is. The
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whole idea is to get out of your head and start connecting with. this space of creativity. And so. animals allow us to do that. That's why cat videos are so cool, because
people, you know, you're doing animals, doing these creative things,. help us see it in a way that we're not judgmental when a. human does it. So that's why our marketing is. built around dogs. But there's also a deeper spiritual
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component to me, which is the reincarnation of my. dog. So let's start with that story.. So again, this is hard for people that have a. fundamental religion when I start talking about
mediums. But then I've been to 5. medium 5 times in my life and it's had the biggest. alterations. So like, my, you know, daughter that felt she
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wasn't smart told, you know, medium said, you gotta fix this.. So that's the first time I went to a medium. And. she's like, you gotta fix this. And I'm like, okay. So I
did, and, you know, I helped her correct her course. of not being smart. And now, you know, she's emergency medical. doctor. And. And so,
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you know, that's. So there's a value there. So the second time I went to. a medium, I went with my friend Amy.. And the medium doesn't this. In this case, she doesn't let us go in
together, where now we have a different medium and she lets us go in together.. It's a really cool experience. Anyway,. so I'm in the waiting room and there's this book that. I pick up, and the book is Pets Tell the
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Truth by AGNES Julia Thomas, PhD.. And I start reading the. back of it and it's how to Talk to. Animals, how to connect with and how to Talk to Animals. And
I'm like, oh, my gosh. I'm like, I need this.. So what had happened was. we had. We had a Wheaton terrier.
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And Wheaton terriers typically live. eight to 10 years. And for their. breed. And
he, he was having some medical issues and. he was 9. And we're like, okay, this is it.. And I wanted, I wanted to get new carpet in my. house. So I, what we decided
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was we were going to reload with our,. our replacement dogs now because. we know he's on his last legs, we know it's end of life for him.. And I'm going to reload with this new new. dogs. And that way I can get my new carpet, get them
trained, and then get my new carpet. I don't care if they pee on the. old carpet, but I can get my new carpet. So. anyway, we got little dogs. So, you know, Wheaton terriers are
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like medium sized dogs, especially the American. ones. I think one or the other. There's American Wheat and terriers and English. Wheaton terriers. Anyway, the one shorter and one's taller. This is a taller in
stature dog. And he wasn't doing well. Anyway,. so the little dogs. just peed everywhere, like, and they wouldn't stop peeing
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everywhere. And we couldn't housebreak them. They just were ridiculous to. housebreak. And I picked this book up and it's like, how to talk to Animals.
And I'm like, I got to give it a shot. I've got to figure out. how to talk to animals, you know, so I can tell them,. don't pee in the house. You go outside.
Anyway, so I started reading this book and it was. amazing. Like, truly amazing. Like something. I'd never heard before. Like, I just was like, I'm like, it just
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like totally changed my world because it's like, oh, my God.. Like you. No one ever talks about talking to animals. No one ever talks. about Dr. Do Little being, you know, like a real thing, you
know. And, and so this woman, she's actually. And. that's where the credibility. Instead of like dismissing it. Oh, that's like voodoo
or. Oh, yeah, that's just crazy.. So anyway, she's a medical doctor at the Cleveland Clinic and we're. here in Akron. So Cleveland Clinic is like the, you know, and if you're a
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medical doctor and she's talking about how it works and basically. that they don't have language. Like we have language. They don't use. that. But you can ask them questions and then they send back
pictures. So. Or you can talk to. them. Just their responses are all pictures.
So what she does is, you know, she talks to them. and she deals With a lot of end of life dogs. where you're, you're trying to make the decision of should you. put the dog to sleep? You know, is the dog really suffering? Is it their. time? It's a really tough decision for a dog owner. You can see they're
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suffering, you can see they're in pain, but are they ready to go? You know,. do they want this option, you know, of, you know, putting them out. of their misery? And so. she works with a lot of people talking to their. animals and, you know,
you know, ask them, is it time to go?. So, and the. whole mechanism is that she. asks them a question and then they send back pictures. And so, you
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know, like, let's say, you know, are you,. you know, and she gets back answers. Like they will send a picture of. the organs or the body that is hurting and she. will, you know, and sorry, I mean, to tap on that.
So she, they would send back pictures of what they're. experiencing, like where the pain is, where it is. And because she's a. medical doctor, she can diagnose what the issue. is. So it's really interesting. And
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she does it for both emotional and she does it for, you. know, physical. She diagnoses dogs. like what's really going on. And she can do it with any
type of animal. I mean, it's not just dogs, but she. can't do it with. And this is where my whole theory of. religious beliefs comes from. She cannot talk to
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animals if the owner. is of like a religion where this is not a. cool, okay, so the animal. honors your religious beliefs. And
for me, that was. There's so many takeaways from this. Honest to God, there's. so many takeaways. So, so that's
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where the whole theory started that there's nothing wrong with your religious beliefs,. that your religious beliefs are absolutely fabulous and that your spirit. honors your religious beliefs too. And that in these programs,. in everything I'm talking about, that is the one sacred thing,
is that this is not about changing your religious. beliefs, that your spirit, there's a reason. you have the belief systems that you have, and that. if your animals honor it too, then it is my. responsibility to honor it too, and not say anything that,
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that interferes with that or, or changes your belief. system or anything. So this process. of speaking to animals will not work for you. if you, you know. So her first thing is to ask
permission to the animal and the animal will tell her right away, no, I can't. talk to you because my owner, this is not within their belief. system. And so this is where my whole theory comes from. of when you die, that your spirit honors this
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too, that this is all part of. So if you believe, you go to heaven.. You go to heaven. If you believe that, that's it, that's the end, that's. the end. If you believe that you're going to live 50,000 lives,
you're going to live, you're going to come back for the next one, and that. there is no wrong answer here and that, that. we should be more tolerant of other people's belief systems instead. of saying that's wrong or judgmental. Because the
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whole idea is not to judge. It's to be in a space of love and. kindness and support. So anyway, back to the book. So
that's where that whole theory comes from. And I really, truly believe it. I. absolutely believe that what we're talking about here. is really truth, truth about
animals. And, you know, the other takeaway was. that the dog's purpose is for people to experience. love. So, and you can, when you actually focus on it,
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when that, you know, you're having a bad day and that animal crawls up next. to you and they feel it when you're not feeling well, when they, when you're. not in a great headspace, that animal will come up tank next to you.. And just their presence, the wagging of the. tail, the interaction, the pet me,
the, you know, the asking for that is they're drawing attention. away from your mental suffering and putting you in a space. of love and healing. And that's animals. And
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she says quite clearly that's the purpose of animals, is to help. us experience more love. That's it. Whole. purpose of dogs help us to experience more love.
And I love that. I think that's so profound and so amazing and so. wonderful. So anyway, back to my reincarnation story.. So our last name is Stout, and our first, you
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know, married couple dog was Guinness. So it's. Guinness Stout. And he was nine years old and he was. really suffering. And that
morning he had tried to walk downstairs. and his legs gave out and he just kind of fell downstairs.. And it was really heart wrenching. And I'm like, look, I read this.. Tell my husband this. I read this book. There's
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this woman and I explained her and she can talk to him. and ask him if it's time, you know, is it. time to put you to sleep?. Anyway. And so, you know, my
husband's like, I don't know, you know, so I'm. like, let me just, let me just, let me Just do this. Okay. You know,. I'm like, I read this whole book. Everything in it just made so much
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sense, you know, and the other thing, too, is I tested it and. practiced it. So one of my coolest party tricks, when we're. al fresco outside, if we have.. If we have, like, a bee or a wasp or a
fly that's just really bothering our dinner party outside,. that I, you know, I do this practice where you kind of go inside and. you just talk to them, and I ask them politely, very politely and nicely. to go away. And, you know, they're bothering us. Please go away. And they
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disappear. You know, that pesky fly and everything.. And, like, oh, you know. So I tell all the guests, don't. worry, I'll ask them to leave. And they do. And it just
like, you know, part of it's like, yeah, I can do this. And I'm like,. you, too, can do this. Everybody can do this. But anyway, so it's.
And I always call it the weird world I live in, you know. So, anyway,. it's my coolest party trick. But back. to the story. So. And I have to put these little. Because this story is
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going to make you cry. We cried our eyes out when this. So anyway, so. we call her and, you know, we set up an appointment with her. She calls
back, and she charges $50 to do this.. And, you know, we've already reloaded with. two dogs. Two. Because we got one dog, and then the puppy was too
much work because we were working from home, and so then we got another. one, so they had someone to play with. So we had three dogs at the. time. We had three dogs, and that was way too many dogs, especially the little
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ones peeing everywhere. So. we called her up and,. you know, and I explained the situation. I said, I read her book, and she
was teaching courses everywhere now before I got on this podcast, I meant to look. her up and just see if she's still alive because she was, you know, senior. when she wrote this. So,. you know, I explained the situation. I explained.
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And, you know, so she asked a. few questions, like, tell us, you know, his name and his breed. And,. you know, and then she connected with him, and she said, you. know, he had lymphoma throughout his stomach
and that, you know, so she started talking to. him back and forth, and she said, you. know, your mom and dad can. take you, and you can. have, you know, they can give you this. This shot.
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It's two shots, and one will relax you, and then the. other one will, you know, help you. to, you know, leave this body and be out of this. pain. And, you know,
would you. Is it time? Would you like. that? Is that something that you would want?. And he said, yes, that's something I would. want. And then the next part of it that I wasn't prepared
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for, she asked, do you want to come. back? And I'm like, oh, my. God. I wasn't ready for that question. We just reloaded with
two dogs. Do you want to come back? You know, you have the. opportunity. She said, you know, you're going to be. You're going to be
around your mom and dad for about, you know, a. week, and then you're going to go pass onto the other. side, and you're going to be there for, you. know, basically three months. Your soul has to be, you know, and you're going to
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be around mom and dad. You're going to see them, but your soul has to,. like, regenerate a little bit, and then you have the chance to. come back in another dog's body. And what would you
like to be? And he's like, well, I want to be the same thing. I. want to be a Wheaton again. And she's like, okay, well, you can be a. Wheaton again, and you'll come back. And what will happen is we will. We
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will check in with you, and we will follow your soul and we'll find out. where you are, and we'll come get you. And I'm like, I. wasn't prepared for three dogs. And I'm like, another puppy.
I'm like, oh, my God. But, you know, you're so emotional at the time.. So emotional. You're like. You're like.
You're just. You're just like, yes, of course we want our dog. back, you know. Of course we do. So,
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anyway, so, you know,. we took him to the vet, and the. vet said, oh, my gosh, this is. You. know, we held him and they did the two shots.
And the vet said, this is one of the most peaceful training. transitions we've ever experienced. Like,. usually the dog is nervous, hesitant. He can feel what's
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going on and everything, but this. This dog was so. peaceful. Anyway, we were just absolute basket cases. I mean, to call
the vet. Like, I hung up on the vet, like, my husband just. couldn't do it. And I hung up on the vet, like, four times. Like, I
couldn't get the words. I'm like, we've got to. And I was. crying, and I couldn't do it. And then we went and we were crying the
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whole Time. And then our vet was on vacation, so we. had to go to this other vet. And I'm crying now.. Sorry. And then we just went into the Target parking lot and we just
bawled our eyes out afterwards. Absolutely bawled our. eyes out. But there's nothing like helping. the transition of a pet knowing that they can come back.
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wait a couple weeks. You know, it's been a. It's been like 13 years ago. this was. So you wait a couple weeks, and then you connect with her, and
she. She connects with the dog on the other. side, and just to make sure everything's good. and everything's, you know, everything's okay. And then she
asks him what happened. So,. you know, she's connecting with his soul on the other side. And she said, well,. you know, tell us about your experience. What happened? And he said, this
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angel came down, and she was this beautiful. blonde angel, and he licked her neck,. and she took him to the other side.. Well, we built our. house right behind our best friend's house, and
their mother lived with them till she passed. And she didn't do. anything except, like help raise their kids and, you know, put our kids on. and off the bus and things like that. And when we had
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him as a puppy, she would come out every. When we had real jobs. We. had real jobs before when we had him as a puppy. And she would come
over every day and let him out, like twice a day, the cage. And whenever. she let him out, he would always lick her neck, you know. And she had. passed, you know, a few years earlier. And, you know, this was Arlene.
And the angel of. Arlene came down and took him to the other. side. And. it was. And then. Where is he now? Well, he is
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in this beautiful house with. this man. And this man has this lake in. front of his house, and he has all these pets that have passed that. he's taken care of. And she described the man, and it
was. It was my husband's father. My. husband's father passed tragically at 56 years old.. And he. But he always was about
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money. You know, he always. They always had nice things. He. always, you know, just, you know,
and he was the keeper of all the animals. And he was. protecting the souls of all the. Taking care of all the animals that had. passed. Isn't that funny? So, you know, she's
describing everything and it's definitely my husband's. father. Anyway, so, you. know, three months went by, she checked in, he was. doing great. He was having a great time. He was free of this body and
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all this pain. And three months went by and. we were supposed to call back and start, we would start to track his. soul. And we called back in three months
and he had not found a body yet. And you know, we're. like, pick a good body, please pick a good body. Okay,. so, you know, we. And he didn't pick a
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body yet. So a month later we called back and she checked in and she. said, I think he's going to pick a body in this place with this litter.. And then we confirmed it. And
so we, you know, contacted the owner,. the breeder, and we're like, hey, you know,. explain this story, this crazy story.. We're tracking down the soul of our past dog.. And you know, he's like, okay, you know, and I said, you've just
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had this litter born and that, you know, we have to. basically hold each one of them while we've got this person on the. phone and she's going to check in with each animal and tell. us which one is our dog,. you know. So we did that. We
went down and we visited. We had her on the phone. We held each one. of them, the puppies, out of the litter. I think there was like six
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puppies. And. finally this one we held. And she said, that's the one. That's,
that's him. So we, you know, I don't know how they all. looked alike, these little puppies. They were all, you know, soft coated wheat and dairy.. They all looked alike. So. But the breeder said,
yeah, okay, we'll keep that one aside for you. That's it. So, you. know, I don't know, I think it was like six weeks later we came back. and we got our puppy. And when he came home, he had a lot of
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the mannerisms of Guinness. We. made him Guinness again. Guinness stout, but we call him Guinness. 2.0. And
he, you know, laid where the other dog laid under my. dad's, I mean, my dad, my husband's desk, you know, he had a lot of. the mannerisms. The only thing that did. not work out was he did not pick a good body.
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No siree. I think he, maybe he was just urgent in getting back. to us, you know, it been, you know, at three months he was looking for. a body and finally at four months he's like, this is the best I can. do. But he's had all kinds of health issues. He's got
thyroid, he's got, he has torn. ACLs. He has constant skin infections from. allergies. And it's a real battle to keep him
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healthy. But this is the deal.. The breed typically lives 8 to. 10 years old. And he, even with
all these issues, he's got arthritis. We have. him on Prozac because he's a little dog aggressive,. you know, like all these, you know, all these issues. and he, he's now going to be turning
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13 and he's lived three years past. So did he pick. a good body? I think so. Is it the same Guinness?. You know, he has this different personality. As he
got older and as he started having these health issues, he just had less. tolerance for the, the other dogs that came into the family, which like my. daughter's dogs and everything. So we ended. up with three dogs and then my daughter just petitioned,
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petitioned, petition, petitioned for her own dog. So we ended. up with four dogs. And. today, today we
have the senior senate one, Max. He passed and it was. so sad. And I'll do that another story, but it was. during COVID but he also had tons of issues. We
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have three dogs now. They're senior, senior dogs. The two girls are. deaf. They're, they pee everywhere. It's
just like the senior center for dogs because their pee is so strong now.. And it's all I do is clean carpets, clean carpets, clean carpets.. So. But I love them to death and it's the world I live in. And
13 year old Guinness 2.0 still kicking. it. But we're not, when he passes, we're not going. to make that phone call. So
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anyway, I hope it was a great story. It was really, it really. changed my relationship with animals. I. don't eat meat, but that's not because of that. That's my menopause story. And
maybe we will talk about that in my next episode.. But. And I have this. sacred relationship with all animals now. and it's, it's just very
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cool. It's very cool to experience the connection.. And they are very much part of the creative. flow. They are tuning forks.
So having your dogs in the office, having your cats around you, having. those animals around you, they all help you be more creative. and so start to see them as your tuning forks and that part of your. life that can not only bring joy, bring love,. that whole experience of animals. That's what their purpose
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is, and that's what they're there for. And, you know,. give them the gift of having them help you be more creative,. more loving, more centered, more letting go. And that's
the gift of the pets in your life. So thank you. And thank you for. listening all three episodes. But
I just wanted you to know that you're allowed to have your religious beliefs, and. we're not in any way going to change that. Thank you.
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