I Disagree with Vance Agreeing with His Opponent

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PROFT (00:06):
JD Vance Roundly received high marks for his debate performance and rightfully so. He
exhibited poise. He generally offered cogentrational answers. He dwarfed field marshal walls
on policy knowledge. And importantly, Vance dida better job of presenting Trump as a pragmatic
problem solver than Trump himself did during hisdebate. There was one aspect of Vance's

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performance that was troubling his agreementwith his oish Bolshevik of an opponent on so
many issues.

WALZ (00:35):
Well, we got close to an agreement 'cause all those things are happening. Look,

VANCE (00:38):
And we do have to do better. And I think that Governor Waltz and I actually probably
agreed we need to do better on this. Thequestion is just how do we actually do it?

WALZ (00:46):
And this idea that we should just live with it. And I, and I, here's what I do think
that this is a good start to the conversation. Ia hundred percent believe that Senator Vance
hates it when these kids, it it, it's abhorrentand it breaks your heart. I, I agree with that.

VANCE (01:01):
Now, Tim just mentioned a bunch of ideas. Now some of those ideas I actually think are
halfway decent and some of them I disagree with.

WALZ (01:07):
So the rhetoric is good. Much of what the senator said right there, I'm in agreement with
him on this. I watched it happen too. I watchedit to my communities and we talk about that

VANCE (01:16):
And I actually think, I agree with you. I think you wanna solve this problem, but I don't
think that Kamala Harris does.

WALZ (01:21):
Donald Trump is trying to figure out how to get the political right of this. I agree with
a lot of what Senator Vance said about what'shappening. His running mate though does not, and
that's the problem.

VANCE (01:31):
Tim, first of all, I didn't know that your 17-year-old witnesses shooting, I'm sorry
about that and I appreciate you. Okay, Christhave mercy.

PROFT (01:37):
My criticism is not of Vance's, amiable, polite, and gentlemanly demeanor or even his
repeated concession that walls is well-intended.Though the latter was unnecessarily effusive and
aided walls in illegitimately positioninghimself as a non-threatening Knuckleheaded
sitcom dad, despite the fact he is in fact aghoulish fabulous who sanctions both withholding

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medical treatment to babies who surviveabortions and allowing kids who do make it out
of the womb to mutilate themselves. Rather, myoverriding concern is how often Vance started
from the same policy premise as Waltz. Vancesaid, I agree with my opponent 10 times, and it
wasn't like Waltz confined his remarks toobserving that water is wet and the sunsets in

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the West, for example, Vance's criticism of theBackdoor Green New Deal wasn't that it was
inflationary cronyism, but only that thetaxpayer funded solar panel manufacturing should
be done in the US and not China on paid familyleave.
Vance did not suggest this was a privateemployer employee matter. He agreed with walls

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that paid family leave should be mandated andfunded by the federal government. On childcare.
Vance did not suggest dramatically reducingtaxes as well as government subsidies to grow
families' disposable income while reducing thecost of care. He agreed and said with walls that
it should be further subsidized by the federalgovernment and a Trump Vance administration

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would use revenues derived from taxing importsto finance those increased subsidies on the back
door takeover of healthcare called Obamacare.Don't expect Vance to be pushing for a
marketplace replacement after congratulatingTrump for salvaging it. I recognize now is not
the time to have an internal fight about theRepublican Party's philosophy on the role of

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government. Just consider this me putting amarker down for discussion at a later date
because that debate is in the offeringregardless of the outcome on November 5th.
Is government of force for good or a necessaryevil to be strictly limited? That's the big
question. Based on the entitlements, mandates,tax credits, and other industrial policy and

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manipulations for which Vance has expressedsupport during his short time in the Senate, I
suspect he's in the camp. That's he's governmentas a force for good, for in partnership with
valued individuals and organizations. And thatis the approach that has America $35 trillion in
debt with another a hundred trillion in unfundedmandates. Perhaps this is not the case, maybe

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out of political expediency alone. Vance choseto appeal to those who thoughtlessly feel their
way through life by being conciliatory with hispaternalistic opponent to signal that he too
will ensure obligation free governmentprovisions for them. That is the best case
scenario. The worst case scenario is Vance andWaltz really do agree that much because to agree

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with Tim Waltz in principle is to eliminate anylimiting principle on the size, scope, and cost
of government. I'm Dan Prof with theCounterculture Commentary. Please like this
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