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April 12, 2025 74 mins

In this Disrupt Now Podcast episode, Natalie Viglione swims in the mysteries of the quantum and shares enlightening experiences with her Featured Guest, Leanne Mercredi. Together, they discuss the power of intuitive guidance, the role of the Divine Realms, of Spiritual Guides, and the importance of energetic protection in this realm.

In this conversation, Natalie and Leanne venture into:

  • Inner-standing the role of spirit guides in personal transformation

  • Exploring the quantum field and its connection to healing

  • The significance of energetic protection and setting boundaries and how to bridge these conversations with children in empowering ways

  • Bridging the personal and the universal in our evolution

  • Embracing intuition as a guiding force in everyday life

This episode is about practical advice on embracing one's courage and intuitive awareness. As always, Cosmic Medicine is about sitting back, tuning in, and expanding the heart and Divine Spirit into uncharted territories…

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(00:02):
Welcome to the Disrupt Now Podcast.
This is Natalie Wiig Leon, your host,
and this is season two, unlocking the
cosmic mysteries around New Earth magick.
My desires to bring conversations
that serve as cosmic medicine for

(00:22):
all of the sacred souls that seek the
revealing of the magick and mystery.
Of the organic celestial energies, I
powerfully step in as a sacred vessel
for the cosmic mother, or as we can
say, the divine feminine energy rising.

(00:44):
I walk an authentic dtic path of
primordial tradition, and I am here
to share wisdom and the highest
truth for the betterment of.
All beings, animals, minerals,
plant life, and all that is please
join me on this journey to explore
and awaken the magick again.

(01:09):
Welcome back to the Disrupt Now podcast.
I'm Natalie Viglione, the host, and today
. I have Leanne Mercredi on the show.
Here's the great thing about Leanne,
Another SoulFamily tribe member.
We are so connecting

(01:30):
With via frequency again.
And as soon as I started
talking to her, I was like, yep.
Another SoulFamily tribe and I was on
her podcast and now she's on my podcast.
And so we had such a lovely connection
that we ended up in the getting to
know each other a little chat before
we were going to record we ended up
talking for quite a while and anyway,

(01:52):
she's a beautiful soul and She is She
owns Spruce Energy Healing, and she's
an Akashic Record Reader, Reiki Master
Teacher, and Intuitive Media Medium.
She does hypnosis, QHHT and BQH
practitioner, and she is the mother
of three beautiful, sensitive souls,

(02:16):
and she has, Beautiful practices
and healings that she's going to,
we're going to dive into today.
And we just, it's tough, really
get into the nooks and crannies of
talking about things that, when it
comes to energy, talking about what.
What's really happening in this world,

(02:37):
that there are parasitic entities,
there are things that, while we can't
see these things with our eyes, some
people, some sensitives actually can,
but For the most part, most people
can't see auras and all of that, just
in your general day to day operation.
So it's this conversation of bringing
the soul back to remembering the all

(03:00):
the in between all of the, what we call
void, which actually is filled with
the everything and that's, we delve
into all kinds of details like that.
So we get into a beautiful
conversation about even experiences
that she's had with her children.
And it's just it's magnificent to really

(03:20):
see just such enlightened, beautiful
souls raising children and bringing
them into the awareness of who they
truly are, which of course is far
more than this, than the experience
that we're having in this matter form.
But that is also extremely important.
vital because it's a beautiful part.
It is the experience.

(03:41):
Yeah, there's some realities about this
experience that many don't talk about, but
Leanna, Leanne and I, we do talk about it.
So I hope you enjoy this
episode and to find more.
Details about Leanne and to
also connect with her website,
go to spruceenergyhealing.
com.
In fact, she has a giveaway on her page

(04:03):
that she, we're going to link as well.
So make sure you snag that
and get to know Leanne.
She's again, a gorgeous soul.
And I hope you enjoy this episode
as much as I did in recording it.
Welcome back everyone.
Let's dive into some more new earth magick
cosmic medicine for the sacred soul.
Well, Leanne, you know, thank you.

(04:24):
After the intro, I think we are
going to just have this beautiful,
meandering wonderful conversation in
the place that makes the most sense.
To people like us, the quantum,
quantum energy, the quantum
field, because everything out
here doesn't make sense at all.
No, no.

(04:45):
It's
very confusing.
It's, it's,
so thank you for being on
the Disrupt Now podcast.
I'm very grateful to have you.
You, it's my
pleasure.
Thank you so much for having me.
Yeah.
Okay, well let's step into some
healing conversation first.
So, Spruce Energy Healing is you,
is me?

(05:05):
Yes.
Is you.
So let's kind of dive into the journey
of, you know, when did that turn on
and how did that I, because I think
that's just gonna lead us into this
whole quantum field, energy, vibrations,
frequency, you know, all of that.
So let's start there and
then see where we go.

(05:26):
Well, for me, I feel like there was
a slow buildup of building up this
pressure and then all of a sudden the
cap came off and I just like exploded.
So kind of the buildup part was
being a mom to high needs kids.
My oldest, she's been diagnosed

(05:46):
with autism and a DHD and
Tourette syndrome and anxiety.
She's, there's lots of things
that when she was little I didn't
understand and it was very stressful.
So that added a lot of anxiety to my life.
So that was another one layer that kind
of, you know, made this bottle full.

(06:08):
Mm-hmm.
And then, that I think that also helped
contribute to my issues with autoimmune.
Mm-hmm.
So I. Started to, like, my hands were
really stiff and I couldn't braid my kids'
hair, getting outta bed in the morning.
I'd have to shower with hot water
for half an hour in order to move.
Like I knew something
was wrong with my body.

(06:29):
And then of course it took
like eight months in Canada.
This was years ago,
probably it's two years now.
To actually get to a doctor and then
started, you know, the treatment
process so that I could move.
But having that autoimmune disease really
put a huge impact on my life and how much

(06:51):
it affected me and controlled my life.
Yeah.
So it really, really put a lot
of pressure in that bottle and.
Then just through, I'm gonna say
circumstance, ity, I was visiting
with a friend and she happens to
be really into like reiki and all

(07:14):
this stuff, but she was closeted.
Mm. And for some reason she happened to
say something about reiki, like that word.
And I was just like, what is that?
I need to know more about that.
And we just kind of, and she was
a little hesitant at the moment,
but she really let it all out.

(07:35):
Mm-hmm.
And I was just enthralled.
I was like, I need to
know more about that.
So I started learning about it
and eventually I took a class.
And then as soon as I took that
class, it felt like these blinders
came off and I was able to see
all these things in my life that.

(07:56):
I didn't notice before.
And one of those things was my
middle kid was having nightmares.
She was having night terrors for years
screaming in the middle of the night.
And I never really, she was younger, so I,
her, her language wasn't quite there yet.
But when I took Reiki, then I
started to be like, this is weird.

(08:19):
And I started asking her questions
that I'd never thought of before.
And I found out what was scaring her
was that she was seeing faces and these
faces would say scary things to her.
And when she closed her eyes, she only
saw them when she closed her eyes.
And from that was kinda like
a, I knew this was something

(08:40):
serious, like I could feel it.
Mm-hmm.
I, through the channels of the few
spiritual people in my life, I found
somebody who could help guide me through
how to resolve the situation and.
One of the main things of that
was that I had to do it myself.
So this healer, she worked

(09:01):
and she lessened things.
She, but she couldn't fully
remove it because my daughter
kept inviting it back in.
So it's something that I needed to deal
with and do it on a consistent basis.
So she taught me how to do it and
for, and then I would just check in
on her, check in with my spiritual

(09:22):
friend, be like, did I do this right?
And she's like, yeah, I could feel it.
You, you worked on it.
I'm like, okay.
So I built on my confidence having
somebody check in on me to be like,
Hey, yeah, you're doing it right.
And I felt like in the
moment I had no choice.
'cause I had to protect my kid.
Yeah.
And if I didn't have to do that, I don't

(09:42):
think I would've stepped into something.
So, traditionally scary.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
If I wasn't like trying to protect
my kid and I didn't feel scared.
I just was like, I gotta do this.
Yeah.
I'm doing this.
So it, it took me longer.
It, it took me like two months through the
whole process because I was learning, like

(10:04):
I, since then, it's happened again and
it took like two times and I'm like, I'm,
I can now explain to her how to do it.
So
yes.
'cause now she's 10.
So way different than dealing
with someone who's like five.
Yeah.
Yeah, huge difference.
But through that two month process,

(10:25):
things just started unfolding.
I got a past life regression and when
I got, when I was in there, I felt like
as I was leaving, I had more questions.
I wanted more things to ask.
But I didn't want us, I couldn't interrupt
her as she was doing the induction.
Uh, not the induction, but
like the waking up process.

(10:45):
Mm-hmm.
So I just thought in my head the
question and I got the answer right back.
I'm like, oh, interesting.
And then she brought
me out and I was done.
But that stuck with me of
like, just answering, asking,
asking the questions right.
And getting an answer.
That just never occurred to me before.
And that was my first, real experience

(11:06):
with seeing something with my
third eye in my mind on purpose.
It wasn't, and I didn't, and
I knew it wasn't imagination.
So it was my first experience with that.
And then my grandfather who had
passed away when I was about
16, started, communicating with

(11:28):
me, which was very unexpected.
Brilliant.
Yeah, so I was outside and
something caught my eye.
It was shiny on the ground and
it was this coin and I was like,
okay, go to pick it up thinking
it just fell outta my husband's
pocket like it does all the time.
And it was a coin, a brand new

(11:48):
sparkling coin, but it was about 10
years old and it was from Taiwan.
And I'm like, well,
we've never been there.
And we had lived in this house,
that house for a few years,
so it wasn't the past owners.
So I was like, what's going on?
Okay.
I took some pictures to try to
figure out what it was, 'cause
there was no English on it.

(12:10):
Google image search did
wonderful job with that.
And then, and then, yeah, when I came
inside, I just set it on the table.
None of the kids were awake.
This was early in the morning.
I just was like, okay, I'm
just gonna set it here.
I want it somewhere safe.
And then after a few minutes I'm like,
oh, I wanna go see that coin again.

(12:31):
And I go over there and the
coin is gone, just vanished.
And I'm like, uh, what?
There was nobody around.
I was like, if it, if it hadn't
vanished, I probably wouldn't have
paid as much attention to it as if
it did, which is why it happened.
My grandpa knows I'm stubborn
like him, so I needed to be super

(12:52):
obvious, especially at that point.
So from the suggestion of the front,
the teacher that was helping me
before she suggested I sit down,
get quiet and say the names of the
people that I thought it could be.
And then when I got to my grandfather's
name, I felt this big push, like heavy
push on my shoulder that made me move

(13:14):
down, like at least like five inches.
And I was like,
what?
Oh my God.
Like, what's going on?
I'm like, that, that was real.
It wasn't a tingle.
It wasn't, it was, it was strong.
And I was like, okay.
I'm a little freaked out,
but also really excited.
Where do I go from here?

(13:36):
So I've, I'm not sure where I got
this idea, whether it's from books
or it just popped into my head.
But every night when I fell
asleep, I would, everyone was,
uh, everyone was already asleep.
So the house was quiet, no distractions.
I would just have conversations
with him in my mind.
I would ask questions and he

(13:58):
guided me to different places.
He guided me to my past lives,
shown me different things and
how to access certain things.
Mm. How he was really a huge part
in opening up this world for me.
Wow.
So I had someone who I really loved,
who really loved me, showing me.
And guiding me and really pushing me.

(14:21):
'cause I needed that push.
Mm-hmm.
So much.
'cause I stubborn, right.
And stubborn and thrifty just
like all the farmers in my family.
So that's kind, it, it's been
really ingrained into me.
So when I was, when the thought with
the idea of taking a mediumship course

(14:44):
came to me was like pushed and like
came at me from every direction.
I was like, no, no, no,
I can't spend that money.
That's more money than I've spent
on anything like this or other
things on myself for how many years.
I was just, I couldn't justify it,
but he was really pushing me and
finally I was like, okay, I'll do it.

(15:04):
And I signed up on like
the last day that I could.
And as soon as I did, I
felt like a huge shift.
Hmm.
It was amazing.
Like I. In so many different ways.
Like my cycle changed, like instantly.
I went from being like so, so regular,

(15:25):
always on the new moon, always, every
single time without me even knowing it.
That's what it was.
Like.
I didn't really pay attention to that.
I paid attention to the dates and
then over three months I switched
all the way to a full moon and I
was just like, this is so weird.
Like that made me like, 'cause
that's not my usual norm.

(15:45):
And then of course the class
just were like, blew my mind.
I went from like only talking
to my grandpa to talking to
like so many different souls.
It was insane.
But that, and then from there,
everything else just flowed naturally.
Yeah.
And I found my grandpa while he's

(16:06):
still around, he's not an active member
because I don't need that push anymore.
I listen now.
Yeah.
Yes.
I, I don't need that big boot.
Like if I'm gonna be really stubborn,
like he'll come in and like, gimme
pushing you again.
Exactly.
I don't need that as much
anymore 'cause I trust it more.

(16:27):
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like I really, I guess it was really
important that I do it because
he was very, very persistent.
He didn't give up and I'm really
thankful that he is stubborn like me.
That's so, that's so interesting
that you're, you know, the guide

(16:50):
to get you to that place was him.
No.
Which makes all the sense, obviously
when you really think about it
because he knew how to break through
all the barriers that, of the
emotions that he carried, you know?
Mm-hmm.
And ancestrally, you know, many carried.
So that's cool.
Yeah.
Uh.

(17:10):
Yeah.
He, he knew what he was doing.
And I think like, because I, because I
actually knew him, I'd have that feeling
of like, this is connection, this love.
Yeah.
Like a other guide.
Yes, I've known you past
lives, but not this life.
So I don't have that,
that real familiarity.
Mm-hmm.
So I was able to not

(17:32):
brush it off so easily.
That's brilliant.
I love that story.
And oh, the, yes, the stepping, it's so
intriguing because, you got shoved, you
got shoved into the quantum, which I
mean like we can say the unseen, which

(17:52):
is not, it's everything and nothing.
It's, so, it's.
That, the expansiveness of that space
of what is really happening in the,
I say the eternal now is so powerful
because, I mean, you really got shoved
into that with your, with your daughter.

(18:13):
Mm-hmm.
And I mean, that, that is also a
topic that I, I have discovered.
People don't want to talk about
entities and call, you know,
there's a billion different names.
I mean, I can go into all the
ancient texts in which, you know,
relate toons, you know, whatever.
It almost, to me, it never matters what,

(18:35):
what words we want to say to call them.
Mm-hmm.
It's the fact that it's real.
And that is another layer of the, of the
quantum fields that we're dealing with.
Isn't it
like it's sensing, knowing, believing in
the things that you don't necessarily see.

(18:56):
I think of it as just like science,
where like you do an experiment and maybe
you don't know what's happening, but
there's a result, a measurable result.
That is what you're looking
for in all these experiments.
So if there's a result, if there's
something happening, if there's an
experience and there's a change in that
experience, there's something happening.

(19:17):
So it has to be real, even if you
can't explain what's going on with
the knowledge or the language that
you have in this physical existence.
So I think being okay with not
knowing it and understanding
it is a big part of it as well.
Totally.

(19:37):
I, I really don't think, especially, well,
I'll say in my life in this timeframe, I
don't think we can fully understand it.
In the future maybe, but right
now I don't think we can.
And I'm okay with that
because eventually I'll know.
Exactly.
Right.
Right.
And like you said, it's, you know,

(19:58):
when we're working with the vibrational
layers, you know, in, in my vibrational
medicine work, you know, it's these,
it's when you take that flower essence
mm-hmm.
And you notice the shift, it doesn't
matter that, you know how that experience
happened as much as that it did.
Exactly.

(20:18):
Yes.
Yeah.
Recognizing that it did happen.
Exactly.
That's all you need to do.
Don't brush it off.
Yes.
Just acknowledge it.
Like it doesn't take that much effort
really to just say, oh, that happened.
Okay.
I think, I feel that when the ego gets

(20:40):
involved, then you need to explain it.
Then you need to know,
then you need to be right.
It's okay not to be right.
'cause really not all of us are
wrong, like all the time because
we don't have full knowledge.
So we're always wrong.
So you do the best you plan, but you
can't be a hundred percent accurate.
Right.
All the time because we

(21:01):
have limited knowledge.
Right, right.
You just
do the best or more.
So it's like we're we're not wrong as
much as we didn't see the full picture.
Yeah.
That's
what it's, yeah.
It's necessarily wrong.
It's just not percent.
It's this
big and we know this much.
And then more gets unveiled then Oh, then
yes.
Yes.
The unveiling.

(21:22):
Yes.
It's just the different
layers, the different, yeah.
But I really feel that like all
the beings, all the energies in
the quantum realm understand that.
And they're not holding it against us.
Right.
They know it's part of the journey,
and we chose to not have all that
knowledge so that we could experience

(21:42):
these parts of being majority.
Right.
Majority wrong, but just
little bits here and there.
Just exploring.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
And, you know, in, in everything
that is happening in this world
today and have, and has been, you

(22:02):
know, coming in with all of the
knowing where everything is so clear.
I mean, that, that doesn't, that
doesn't even allow us to grow in the
human form in the right way because
we have to start in the toddler.
We can't even speak clearly, you

(22:23):
know, and so there's this whole.
I mean, it truly is like an evolutionary
process, even just to be able, you know,
I remember being, when I like two years
old, and just knowing what was right
mm-hmm.
Knowing exactly what was true and
expressing it, but it was expressed
around, you know, you just, you, you
don't have the words to even utilize, to

(22:43):
speak in the ways that you really need to.
And so that really is part of
that, part of that process.
It's not like we come in and
we're just in full form and
we're, you know, in our, we're in.
Full, we're in 46 form, you know,
I'm 46, so we just, you know,
show up and we're like here.
Hello.

(23:05):
So obviously we have quite the
evolution process to go through.
Yeah, that's, yeah.
I, I don't, and I love that
we can experience that whole
process in our life if we choose.
And like the soul of course does that
through multiple lifetimes and it's just,
I think that's really a big part of just

(23:28):
the soul evolutionally growing of mm-hmm.
You starting at one point, you do the
best you can at this point, and then you
do your best you can at this point, and
you do the best you can at this point and
it moves and grows and flows over time.
And it's not a constant up and
down, like it just flows and moves.
And I feel like that's a real

(23:48):
natural, way for the soul.
To work with energy.
Yeah, right.
Exactly.
So this must have, so that
experience with your daughter
must have kind of blew like a,
it was like a quantum bomb
in your home, wasn't it?
Yes.

(24:08):
But also, like, I grew up in a very
religious household and you don't
talk about this kind of stuff.
Like I knew not to talk and my
husband, he gets really scared.
I knew I couldn't tell him 'cause it would
freak him out and he'd just wanna move.
Hmm.
So I was just like, I'm not gonna
really go into detail about that.
And even since then, I'd be like,

(24:30):
oh, your grandpa's hanging out.
He's like, don't tell me that stuff.
I'm like, okay, well, you know,
that's not really his, comfort zone.
But yeah, it really, really just shook
everything and I felt so empowered.
Because we got this, we moved through

(24:52):
this and we did it together, me and her.
It was this bonding experience.
It opened up our lines of communication.
Wow.
So that when things started happening to
her again, or just throughout when she had
certain questions, she would ask me and.
She even does this now, like on
the weekend, she's like, Hmm, I
wonder if do like, if psychics

(25:14):
can look into the future, they
could probably look into the past.
I'm like, yes.
We can see the past so much
more clearly than the future
because it's more set in stone.
Like we can see it better.
And she's like, I'm
curious about dinosaurs.
I think there are more colors
than just like brown and green.

(25:35):
Can you look just like
all these like random questions that
I would never think to ever explore?
Mm-hmm.
So then we'll explore those
things together and it's
really fun and I'm really glad.
Yeah.
I'm glad we had a horrible experience.
That turned into good experiences.
Yeah.
Yeah, because

(25:55):
it's good for her.
'cause she's very, very, very
intuitive and she's very sensitive
and she's really bright that just
draws in all these things to her.
She's not careful.
So it's good for her to
experience something Yeah.
So that she is more in
control when she gets older.
Exactly.
If only we all had that experience,

(26:17):
would've made things a lot easier.
So amazing mom.
Mm-hmm.
For opening that space for her because,
you know, that, that cha that truly,
it's like, uh, just a trajectory to
like, to be able to come into full
form and to know thyself in that.
Mm-hmm.
You know, with that kind of openness.

(26:41):
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
And, and I, well, and she's just
a very confident person and I feel
this just adds extra confidence.
Yeah.
And I love that.
Yeah.
Because I, I wish.
Of course we all wish
we had that growing up.
Right.
But, you know, different times, different
parents, you know, different, a lot

(27:02):
of things.
Yeah,
of course.
When you think about then you
go, oh, I wish if I had that when
I was a kid, I'd be different.
But the reason that happens is that you'd
be here right now, so you'd parent the
way you parent now, and yada, yada yada.
But like, there's always a rhyme and
a reason, but it's really, I really

(27:23):
like having that openness with my kids.
Yeah.
Less distortions to deal with.
You know, that does make, healing
journeys and just journey into
stepping into the mission that someone
is here to unfold so much easier.
So, uh, tell me, um.

(27:44):
You know, your experience in, because
when we open these fields and these
channels and these things, you know,
there's a lot of protection of our
energies and, you know, a lot of
things that just become like every
day, you know, this is my, my spiritual
practice includes all these things.
I mean, you know, not only going

(28:05):
through those kinds of experiences,
but that realization and the
levels that, open within you.
Once you get blown open.
There's no, I always think of it like you
can't put toothpaste back in the tube.
Yeah, it's true.
Go ahead, try.
Yeah.
It's not gonna happen.
And I think because my first
experiences were pretty dark, that

(28:27):
really showed me how important.
Energetic protection and boundaries
are like, it was really emphasized
right from the get go, you need this.
Yeah.
It's not some very thing that's like, oh,
this, I heard somebody had this or this
happened to somebody and just mm-hmm.
Not taking it seriously because it didn't
happen to me or someone close to me.

(28:47):
Yeah.
I knew, 'cause I experienced,
I felt it and I could tell the
difference between the light and
the dark right from the beginning.
And you know, there's varying shades
and through experiences you learn
about all of the different shades but,
and feelings with those shades.
Right?
Yeah.

(29:08):
Like you just get
used to it.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So
it takes a while to really
get the sense of all that.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
But I know lots of people who are
maybe 20 years older than me who
came from the school of thought
that everything is love and light.
Everything is amazing.
And then recently, in the last, like five

(29:29):
years, specifically more year or two,
it's really hit them hard that there is
this shadow, that there is this darkness.
And it's not like shadow work
within yourself, which is I
feel is a little bit different.
It's, this is like outside darker
energy that is kind, I wanna say,
uh, like harmful, malevolent.

(29:50):
Malevolent, that's the word.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
And facing it because when
you turn your back mm-hmm.
You are vulnerable.
Yeah.
So they've been
forced because they've been vulnerable and
they've been beaten down to look at it.
Yeah.
So I feel like there's a big change
happening where all these people that were
taught and only experienced good things.

(30:11):
Or Okay.
Things just not bad stuff are now seeing
the bad stuff, or I'm gonna say bad stuff.
I know there's no real technical,
good or bad, it's just varying shades,
but I'm thinking of the energy that
does not want good things for you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I, I always say the vile
or the, I mean, it's evil.
It's there's evil and that's,

(30:32):
that's okay to say too.
You know, that's another
word that people are like.
But I mean, when you get into the
depths of the truths of the things
that now are being very revealed, uh,
I think it's okay.
There's some words we can use.
I just think some words specifically
like evil has a lot of fear associated

(30:53):
with it, especially because of religion.
And I think if you have fear mm-hmm.
Then you are not, it takes away
your power and you're not able to
confront and you're not able to.
Fight against work, against
get your boundary, get your
protection, you are more vulnerable.
So I feel that the words like you
and me using that word, no fear,
all fine, but some people would

(31:15):
be like, oh, that makes me scared.
So you have to like, use
different words so that
like malevolent, which
is very hard to say, but
it
actually sounds kind
beautiful.
It's no white, like, yes, Maleficent.
Like, that's what reminds me
of, you're like, not good,
but like, you know, beautiful.
Yeah, I agree.

(31:36):
I, I, depending on who I'm talking
to, I'll like, yeah, change my
wording because I don't feel fear.
Even when I've, I've seen some
really scary, scary stuff and
this is more than what happened to
my daughter and I wasn't scared.
I have felt like, okay, I
cannot look at this because
that makes me more vulnerable.
I call in all the help and.

(31:59):
I do what I need to do depending
on what I'm guided to do.
But I don't feel fear.
Exactly.
And I think, I don't know.
And I don't know if that's something
that's just like innate in me.
I think so.
Or if it's because I never felt
fear in the beginning neither.
Which is weird.
Yeah.
I,
'cause I would expect

(32:19):
you see something scary.
You'd be scared, but
scary movies terrify me.
You don't watch 'em.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes.
Same.
Same.
But you know, there's, it's like,
I feel like this is a really, we're
getting into something very interesting.
I, and obviously, you know, we
will explain it in different ways.

(32:41):
Right.
But I do feel, you know, the indigo
field, I. Is a very strong field of,
being able to go into the underbelly,
if you will, or to go into where the
vial hang out into those lowest of low
frequencies where you see it and you can

(33:04):
acknowledge it and be, and, and stand in
that so strongly that there is absolutely
no fear because you know what's on the
other side behind you, which we could say
is light, but it's far more than that.
It's divine.
It's, you know, it's all these
words that we could use, but
there's just, there's an ener.

(33:25):
It's like a protected energy field of,
of being able to acknowledge things,
whereas others can stand in that,
and it's a very different experience.
So from my, at least from my end
coverings and my own existence and
working with people that have that too.
It's a shared common

(33:45):
thread, I guess is the word.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's, I, I feel like for most things
in your life, once you connect to your
spirit team and to your galactic team, to
your higher self, you don't feel alone.
Right.
You're so much more powerful in a
group than when you are by yourself.
And I feel like that's one

(34:06):
of the main things, uh, about
why everyone is so separated.
Yeah.
It was on purpose to
make us less powerful.
Why?
Absolutely.
You know, the witch trials and the
witch hunts and the burnings, you're
scattering turning people against each
other because as a group you're powerful.
Yeah.
So on a spiritual sense, the same

(34:27):
thing like all these, teachers
and all of these schools.
You'd be prosecuted if you
were made aware of them.
So everything was in secret.
Everything was in hiding and
separate from each other.
Now it's becoming more open.
People are finding and teaching and
just sharing knowledge and connecting.
And we're getting more powerful

(34:49):
'cause we're strong, we're together.
We're not alone in the physical
sense and in the spiritual sense.
Exactly.
Exactly.
So, how did, uh, so were,
let's talk about, kind of
this, how, how are you using.
All of this in your work today?

(35:10):
Like, you know, and, and I
think that we keep getting our
layers blown open, if you will.
You know, as every day moves.
Yeah.
Constantly too.
All over the place.
Like you start the journey,
you never finish, it's just No,
never.
Yeah.
Endless it feels like.

(35:31):
Yeah.
Yeah.
But how I incorporate everything.
So after the mediumship, I learned how
to read the Akashic records and how
to do healings in the Akashic records.
And that's when I really started
connecting to my galactic family as well
and really leaning into my past lives.
Mm-hmm.
Human and non-human.
Mm-hmm.

(35:51):
And I really fell, I really had
the strong drive to con connect to.
These galactic beings who
were part of my soul family.
So I would talk to them at least once a
week, and it's been pretty continuous.
They've taught me so many
things and many of my healing
techniques have come from them.

(36:13):
Mm-hmm.
So when I do a intuitive
session, so I feel the energy
body, I move the energy body.
I intuitively go into why the
things are there, why the different
blocks or cords or ties go into past
lives, go into different reasonings.
So every time it's completely different.

(36:33):
And I use the Cassius records and I
use like intuition, and I use energy
healing, and I blend it all together for.
I have three different intuitive sessions,
depending on what your intention is.
Mm-hmm.
But
it all comes from that place.
Yeah.
And then my newer session, so I took

(36:54):
Quantum Healing Hypnosis mm-hmm.
The divorce Canon technique.
And I also took Beyond Quantum
Healing, which is, a branch off.
One of her students wanted
to teach it a different way.
Mm-hmm.
So she went and taught it a different way.
So I've taken both of them and it's
really beautiful guiding other people
through this experience that I go through

(37:17):
myself when I read for other people.
Yeah.
So I guide people to their
past lives, through them.
And when we encounter roadblocks,
like every single time, I'm like,
I've encountered that roadblock.
I know how to, I know how to do this.
Then you ask the right questions
and you move through them, and then

(37:37):
you connect to the higher self.
Lots of times you talk to spirit
team members or past loved ones
depending on what is needed.
And it's really, really exciting watching
other people go through this experience.
Mm-hmm.
And how they experience it.
'cause everyone's so different.
Mm-hmm.
Everyone's Claire's are a little
bit different and playing with

(37:59):
someone else's energy is really
fun when it's not just me.
So I know exactly which of
my Claires are stronger.
Yeah.
I know
when I read somebody else, if they
have a really strong Claire, it gets
amplified in me, but when I'm guiding
somebody else through it, it's,
it's different in that as aspect.

(38:20):
So it's really fun for me to
navigate all those different
ways to move through energy.
So that's really exciting for me.
I really enjoy seeing other people's minds
be like really blown and expanded and.
I feel like it's life changing.
Yeah.

(38:41):
Yeah.
Because it's also that
integration level too, isn't it?
Like
mm-hmm.
After it, you know, it's like, I always,
the word healer has always been like that.
Well, more like guide to in a
healing modality that then turns
on the healer in you, you know?

(39:02):
It's like a, a more, it's
way more complex than that.
Yeah.
But, it's, and, and just would love to,
you know, have your shared experience
in the, in the work because it's more
like the session sessions happen, things
happen moving through layers, but it's

(39:23):
like the after when, you know, in the
work that they're doing in the every
day where that is amplified and they.
Begin to get stronger and more
amplified in their connections, is, I
mean, that, that is such a testament
to this, you know, this, totally.

(39:43):
All the information is there and
waiting for you to tap into it,
kind of visceral, quantum, whatever
we wanna call it, you know, and
that, I that is so exciting to me.
Mm-hmm.
Like, how is, how does that work
with you and, and how you're
seeing that unfold for people?
'cause that I think is
beautiful, just beautiful.
The way I kind of see it or think of it

(40:07):
is like the quantum's all around you.
It's this cloud surrounding you and.
Many of us just don't reach out.
We're not touching it.
We're just like, it's around
you, but there's like a buffer
and you're like, cool, whatever.
I don't notice you.
But when you have a session, whether
it's an intuitive session, energy healing
session, hypnosis session, that a little,

(40:30):
it's a little bit of a drawn in, that
cloud is pulled into you, that energy
is connected to you and you get a little
taste, you get a little feeling of it.
Mm-hmm.
And it can spark your cur if you're ready.
It'll spark your curiosity and then you
can gather more, you can access more,
and you can learn how to move that
energy and collect it and work with it.

(40:53):
So I feel like it's just a spark.
Yeah.
It's an ignition.
Yeah.
You're just, what, you're introducing
this energy to someone and showing
them how to work with it, like mm-hmm.
One thing for my intuitive sessions
is I really try to give steps.
How to move forward.
Yeah.
So if some, I don't just

(41:15):
do the healing for you.
I don't just tell you how to do stuff.
Yeah.
I say your next step if you
choose to is to work on this.
Yeah.
And sometimes I'm given a lot, and
sometimes I'm only given one thing.
Kind of depends on the person, right?
Yeah.
To talk to their higher
self and their spirit team.
They know what's going on more than
me, so I just follow their lead and

(41:37):
mm-hmm.
We have a game plan for the future
Yeah.
They can work on.
Yeah.
And how to connect more
themselves to that energy field.
So,
yeah, because you said something very
important if said, human is ready.
Yeah.

(41:57):
Well, I don't know how many times
my team has tried to like come
in and I'm like, I'm not ready.
Like my grandma showed herself to me.
I was like.
I said like, grandma, that scared me.
I don't wanna see you.
And she never came back.
Mm. Yeah.
I wasn't ready at that time.
Right.
And I told her, yeah.

(42:18):
Yeah.
I was, because I was scared.
So obviously you're not ready.
Yeah.
And when I, even when I was
ready, I was so bombarded.
Mm-hmm.
I needed a big boot to get
me to pay attention, so
Yeah.
Yeah.
My grandpa was the boot and sometimes
I'm the boot for someone else.

(42:39):
So
I call, I've called it
the stiletto before.
Yeah, yeah.
Good old.
A little slow up there.
Yeah.
It's just a different image.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Exactly.
Yeah.
That, yeah.
And that's, you know, and I, what I, what
I really feel like cosmic medicine, right.

(43:01):
This whole.
Season two of what we're the reason that
kind of came through is as well is because
with, you know, like our original grid
of this planet being turned back on
and, and all of these, energies that the
malevolent energies and such being, you
know, cleansed and purged and like mm-hmm.
It's basically like the astral

(43:23):
is being cleaned, right?
Yeah.
Purged of these energies
that's happening in US
simultaneously,
right?
Mm-hmm.
And this, I think is the most,
uncomfortable place for mo you know,
for all of us together because it's
like a, imagine like if your house

(43:43):
was so dirty, like dust everywhere and
like everyone is just in the house and
everyone starts dusting at the same time.
That's the image that keeps coming
over me is like, we're all dusting
and so is the planet at the same time.
And you can't escape it.

(44:06):
Yeah.
You can't just dust everywhere in the air.
And it's just like, as we're like,
you know, you know, wiping our nose.
Like it's physically even, literally.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Interesting, isn't it?
Yeah.
There's all, all the, I keep getting
the same thing that like all the chaos,
all the healing, all the shadow work,

(44:27):
all the illumination of these parts of
ourselves that we haven't been seeing
are happening on individual layer and an
earth layer, like a real collective layer.
And everyone, I think we bounce in
between which one we're focusing on.
Mm-hmm.
And everyone's focus is
a little bit different.
Mm-hmm.
But I feel like there is, it is important

(44:47):
to look at both and not just focus on one.
Yeah.
But I do feel that when you do
one, let's say you're focusing on
yourself, it does, you can't help
but focus on the earth as well.
It's, I I feel like it's very natural
to go back and forth as long as you
allow that to go back and forth,
instead of being forcing yourself to

(45:08):
just focus on yourself or just focus
on the earth, allow your attention
to wane because you need to do both.
Yeah.
And I think it's by design, because
you can't do one without the other.
Yeah.
And we all are feeling it.
So bad.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes.
I think that is the point here.
Like we're, you know, 'cause of the

(45:30):
time, you know, we're doing the, like,
if we would've done this conversation
five years ago, it would've been
a very different conversation.
Mm-hmm.
You know, and it, that to me is
so powerful when we think of the
energies rising or coming back
online, you know, whatever, however
we wanna like, talk about that.

(45:51):
But it's an interesting, it's an
interesting time because the spiraling
of energies makes it, really unique.
Where every day it's like, like
we were talking about before,
you know, it's something new.
Mm-hmm.
Something
deeper, something more expansive.
It just keeps coming.
And when you're, I guess, you know,

(46:13):
for those of us in the intuitive
precognitive, you know, all those
kinds of things that are online,
empathic, all those things is a lot.
It's a lot isn't it?
It is.
It is so much.
'cause that's why having
the boundaries mm-hmm.
And protection is so important because
it's not, the world has so much

(46:35):
energy and it's purging and you don't
wanna be the place where it pges to.
Right.
That's when you look at the world,
everyone's start starting to
realize and notice all these people,
these things that are really bad.
We're looking at the shadows
of the earth, just like we're
looking at the shadows of ourself.
So we're everyone's awakening to the
fact that there is bad out there.

(46:57):
What we thought was good is
not what we thought it was.
What we were told is good
is not what it actually is.
Judge for yourself, not
just what you're told.
And I think across the board, even people
who aren't spiritual or anything really,
it's really across the board, people are
starting to realize that there's a lot of.

(47:20):
When you say bad malevolent out there,
even if they don't fully understand or
see all of it, they're starting to see
some of it and that is huge step forward.
Yeah, huge.
Because it's not just us or like,
like yeah, it's not just us like all,
like even talk to like even people who

(47:40):
would never change, people like my dad
who are just very set in their ways.
'cause he's like almost
80, like he's pretty set.
Uh, and he can't hear very well
either, so it's not like he
can hear my words to change.
But anyways, even people that who you
would think would never change are
seeing certain things like, oh, that

(48:01):
politician who I thought was really good
is actually doing something really bad.
This is weird.
Hmm.
Or, oh, that celebrity that I see
around, they did something horrible.
Oh, interesting.
Like, they're just seeing these little
things and they're actually being put
onto news sources that they watch, which

(48:22):
I, you can't really trust fully anyway.
Some of these places, but they're
even on them on those places.
So that, that's so weird.
And even if it's not the full
truth, it's enough to crack
a little bit in many people.
And that crack shows hope.
Yeah.
And then it trickles down.

(48:43):
And of course the younger
generations are amazing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'm so excited for how
open and how, not complacent.
They are.
I think that's the big thing.
'cause when I grew up, especially being
a woman, you have to be complacent.
You have to put up with things.

(49:04):
You're forced to put up with things.
Because even if you weren't and you
tried, you were like pushed back down.
Whereas now, like, I'm gonna say
kids, people are in their twenties,
you know, ni and people in their
teens, they don't have that as much.
People try and they're like, no,
yeah, I'm not putting up with that.

(49:24):
And I love that so much.
Yeah, that is a huge difference.
Huge difference.
But, you know, the, I, the beauty of
this, I think, you know, those of us that,
you know, I, I, again, when I really
think of my e you know, that evolution

(49:45):
into this age now, you know, I was,
it's truly that spirit of warrior to be.
You know, the, the crazy one.
Mm-hmm.
So we're the crazy ones that have been
talking about a lot of things for a long
time and now, you know, now that that's
able to break through in different ways so

(50:07):
that we aren't seen as the crazy anymore
and now it's, and that really does help.
Mm-hmm.
Even in our own healing, because to be
seen and heard for the first time in
ever potentially, that is a huge thing.
Yeah.
That's a, it changes everything.
You know, that's
a main part of the witch wound.

(50:27):
Totally.
A hundred percent.
Being,
being hurt by, at some, by some way.
For talking.
For being
Exactly.
Experiencing who you are.
Showing who you are and
not just like hiding it.
Exactly.
And then, so this is so
healing for the whole world.
Yeah.
Every time that, like I get that.

(50:49):
Training that tries to kick
up and be like, oh, be quiet.
Be kind.
You know, just like,
don't ruffle any feathers.
And then it's like, well, no,
because I feel it that this is
like something I need to stand up
for and I'm not doing it for me.
I'm doing it it for all the
witches all through time.

(51:10):
Exactly.
You know, I'm doing everybody
not just for me in this moment.
Exactly.
So I find having that little
perspective makes it easier
to get past that conditioning.
It does.
It does.
Yeah.
And, and the more people
rising in the, in, you know.

(51:31):
Using our throat, using our voice,
having this conversation we're having
even now, you know, which could
go into a million other places.
But that alone change that, that is
changing things rapidly, especially
when it comes from this truly genuine
place that's unlike what like you were
saying before, which I think is a really,

(51:52):
really, I like vital point to talk about,
you know, for far too long, and this is
why I never got into anything that was
new age ever and always resisted it.
It was like, you know, oil and water.
And I was like, why is that?
Why because I'm spiritual.
Like, why is this just, it was
because like you said, you know,

(52:12):
that, indoctrination into love and
light and rainbows and unicorns,
you know, is like.
Uh, I call bullshit and you know, now
we can drop that energy and it doesn't,
it doesn't have quite the effect that
it used to have, which was like, ew,

(52:35):
you know, she is just so, so not love
and light, you know, or whatever.
Right.
We're in different energy where
speaking truth can be heard in new
ways by those that want to hear it.
Right?
Yeah.
I, that's the important
part is speaking the truth.
Yeah.
Your truth, what you feel inside, and

(52:57):
if you can bring it out, if it lands
totally different, then when it's altered
by these outside conditionings or forces
that are trying to distort it or keep
it more quiet when you are able to just
let it out, even if they're the same
words, it feels completely different.

(53:18):
Yeah.
People can tell, people are getting
more in tune with themselves and
they can tell it's not, they can,
they can start to smell the bullshit.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And it's turning on those that,
that other, these other senses.
Mm-hmm.
Outside of the touch taste.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
And if people wanna just say, oh, it's

(53:39):
my gut re gut response, you know, I
can just be a good sense of people.
Cool.
Yeah.
You know, if you don't want
to fully acknowledge, you
know, that's where you are.
But most people, even, uh, the
more closed minded people be
like, oh yeah, that person I got,
I didn't feel good around them.
I don't trust them.
Oh, good, good.

(54:00):
Like,
there's that
lean into that, you know?
Yeah.
There's
that intuition turning.
Turn it on.
Yeah, exactly.
It's, you can't stop it.
Yeah.
Which I, I, it's really exciting the,
just the, the progression that's happened.
It's just, it makes me so excited.

(54:21):
Yeah.
It makes me so, so excited that
people, I'm gonna say, yeah, we're
going, we're going through it now.
And a lot of people, like when they
first wake up, like there's like a
year probably of like, oh, like working
through all the junk and like, it's not
easy, but when you see somebody from

(54:42):
the oth other perspective, when you've
already gone through it, it's exciting.
'cause you know where they're
gonna go and if they wanna ask
for help, you can help them.
Exactly.
They just need to reach their handout.
But some people don't know that they can.
Which is sad.
That is
true.
That is true.
Maybe we should drop.
A little nugget in here
since we're talking

(55:03):
mm-hmm.
That, you know, everyone can allow
themselves the ability to ask for help.
Yes.
I think that is, I'm gonna say
specifically, well, I'm not gonna
say specifically, I would say
specifically women, but no men
have trouble asking for help too.
It's just different areas.
It's, it's really we're all told to

(55:24):
be independent, to be individual, to
like, you're in this alone fighting
and like everyone else wants things
that you have and vice versa.
It's this us against them mentality and.
We can all work together,
we can all help each other.
It's okay to ask for help and then
they can ask you for help and we

(55:45):
can work together in the community.
I'm really finding myself
longing for that style.
Yeah, me too.
It's, it's
for long time.
It's really
needed.
Yeah.
It's, it's, it's like the soul's
longing for it to be the way
that we're designed to be.
Yeah.
Unity consciousness.

(56:05):
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
It's just,
that's probably, to me, is the
saddest part of the way that we've
been living for so long and not even
realizing, not even realizing or some
of us realizing and just not
being able to live in that.
And that is the, that is really, it's
kind of like that, the one, you know,
when you can see what is possible.

(56:28):
You felt it because other timelines,
because of other incarnations
that have been spent in that,
that that is truly, but.
The truth is, is that being able
to paint the picture of what is
possible is also quite healing in
and of itself because it is possible.

(56:48):
Mm-hmm.
It's possible.
It is.
Yeah.
I, I, I agree.
I can't, whenever I look into the
future, like there's so many different
ways that it could happen, but so many
different, you know, it's, we have
a lot of possibilities, but what I
feel is so it's inevitable is a place

(57:13):
where we can look out for each other.
Yeah.
When we are an actual human race.
Yeah.
When we're actually like, we're not
fighting the US against them anymore.
It's Exactly.
You're seen as a unif.
Yeah.
Unified.
And I feel that that has a lot to

(57:34):
do with like galactic disclosure.
Yeah.
And seeing that Oh yeah.
Putting everything actually in
perspective and, 'cause right now
we're so focused on earth, we don't
see the other parts of the universe.
So I feel like that is
a really big part of it.

(57:56):
And I'm really, I'm so excited, so excited
for when that eventually plays out.
Yeah.
So,
yeah.
My soul longing
for Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
'cause it's, it's really interesting.
It's like, you know, I'm, some of us are
like, yeah, and obvi duh, but then you're

(58:16):
like, but that's not fair because you
know that it's, again, being stuck in.
That illusion, the ma, the false
matrix aspects of aspect of the realm
that has really kept that so hidden.
And so, you know, that is that it is
really that star seed indigo wander or
whatever words we use for, you know, the

(58:37):
journey of being the ones that poke holes
to see through, you know, and now that
more holes are being poked if we mm-hmm.
Yeah.
It's getting
way more sparse.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Yeah.
It's intriguing.
Yeah.
I love that idea, that thought
of like we're all poking holes.

(58:58):
Yeah.
And then the people who have just been
so used to it or have been here for a
really long time that kind of forgot, are
starting to see the light from the holes.
Yeah.
I love that picture.
I like, yeah.
Yeah, that's, yeah.
That just came through like a. And
that feels really good because it's
like the, you know, the light is coming

(59:18):
in and you know, we're again, just
having beautiful conversations like
these that feel so organic and natural.
You know, when we first met I was like,
I've known her for a very, very long time.
Yeah.
You know, the souls just that, and that is
happening at more of a rapid pace mm-hmm.
Than ever before.
Mm-hmm.
That's
been a beautiful opening.

(59:41):
Yeah.
That's that familiarity.
Right, exactly.
That comfort, the safety where you're
like, yeah, I can just be myself.
I don't need to put on all
these layers to make it safe.
Yep.
You know, and I feel that, I think
that's kind of like for more of our
generation, maybe not so much the younger

(01:00:02):
generations where they feel like they
have to put on those layers to be safe.
It's just conditioning.
We're just so used to doing it.
But I love, any chance I get to.
Try to push those away.
Yes.
And just be myself.
So, exactly.
That was fun.
I like talking to people who
make me feel so comfortable.
So this is wonderful.

(01:00:23):
Thank you.
Yeah, same.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Well, let's, so first of all, like
is there any gifts or sharings that
you'd like to provide to the listeners?
And then let's talk about
how people can find you.
Hmm.
So the only thing that popped

(01:00:44):
in my head with like a gift or
sharing, could I explain what I
do for my energetic protection?
I would adore that.
Okay, so I do this in a couple.
I do it different times of the day.
I always do it in the morning, and then
when I do a session or if I'm talking
to somebody over the computer like

(01:01:04):
this, I'll do another little one, just
a temporary one for just that little
conversation or just that session.
So I imagine white light
coming in through my head.
This is source light, universe, light
God light, whatever you like to call it.
And I imagine it raining
down into your body.
It's covering you and soaking into you.

(01:01:26):
And you can take as much time as you want
or have it really quick, your choice.
And when it gets to your feet,
you imagine that energy going into
the earth and going deep inside.
And when I'm inside the earth, I imagine
the earth's energy is like a flower with
these petals that move like a seaweed

(01:01:47):
in the water when it's like flowing.
And I imagine.
The energy coming up and those, those
seaweed type movements going all
the way around me and it's hugging
me and it's taking away the energy
that doesn't serve me and giving me
all these love and all these hugs.

(01:02:07):
Mm-hmm.
And then, so I've made this little
cycle that goes all the way down
and up, and then I put, I ask that
there's bright white light all the
way around me in this ball, and I ask
my higher self to come forward, shine
through me, be present in my day.
And then if I want, I'll put up, a

(01:02:28):
golden energy grid around that bubble.
And it's like chicken wire, but gold.
And it's usually triangles, but sometimes
like octagon or whatever you want.
And that energy is like, it's a filter.
So imagine like plastic wap that
has little holes, so all the energy
that is good for you comes through,

(01:02:48):
but it shields against things that
are not for your highest good.
So that's my whole visual.
And you can, if you do it all the
time, you could do it really quick.
But if you have the time to really
feel that earth, energy surround
you, feels really, really good.
So that's what I do every morning

(01:03:11):
as I'm getting ready for the day,
and that has helped me so much.
So I love that.
Yeah.
If there's any little parts of
that that you like, that you
wanna incorporate, have ater.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Love that.
Thank you for sharing because
it's so, you know what I love?
I, I came up with this term

(01:03:31):
called, uh, spiritual K Maga.
Good, because Kav MAGA is like, pulls from
all these different martial arts, right?
Yes.
So this is like protection, Kav
maga, where you pull from all
these different sources, right.
And kind of create your own
beautiful practice because
it's like, I, I love that.
I do a very similar shield too.

(01:03:53):
Like especially before bed 'cause night,
you know, throughout the night and stuff.
Mm-hmm.
So that's beautiful.
Thank you for sharing.
Oh, you're
welcome.
Yeah.
And of course as time goes on you
bring more things, you find little
pieces that fit, you try them on
and then, and especially as you get
more intuitive, you can ask after
my bubble, what do I need today?

(01:04:13):
What do I need with this session for the
person either to help them or to help you,
like what other layers would be helpful
and then whatever pops in you build.
Yeah.
So I, being flexible in
that I think is important.
'cause if you get very rigid
in what you do every day.
As your energy changes, as the world
energy changes, you need to adapt.

(01:04:35):
So, you know, yeah.
New things come in the
field all the time, right?
Yeah.
So, and stronger or less than, you know.
I mean it's, yeah.
I think there's a lot more
stronger things coming in Yes.
Than ever before now.
So it's like maybe doing it
more often, things like that.
Yeah.
And the
brighter, you get moth to a flame.

(01:04:56):
Yeah.
That's it.
Exactly.
And the more outspoken you are, the
more your energy goes out, and the more
you can attract and the more healings
or more confrontations that you do with
your energy healings, let's say, when
you're removing things that are not for
people's highest good, they don't like it.
No.
So you need to be able to have boundaries

(01:05:19):
and protect yourself without fear.
Exactly.
So it's just being consistent and
trusting your spirit team to remind you,
give you a smack if you forget, give
permission to like, Hey, but you know
you haven't been doing this.
Yeah,
exactly.
You know?
And when you ask, when you ask for help,

(01:05:41):
if you don't listen to the answer and you
have spirit team like mine, who knows my
energy, they give me a big swift kick.
And you might not always
like the result of the kick.
Yeah.
Like when one broke my microwave.
Mm. Yeah.
I wasn't listening.

(01:06:01):
I was like, oh.
I, I, I know I shouldn't microwave
in plastic, but it's so easy.
Mm-hmm.
And I was like, there's some,
my skin's not very good.
How can I fix this?
And I was like, and I thought, oh,
I shouldn't be doing this anymore.
Like, just, it's too much in my body.
Like I need to like lower that
all the chemicals in my body.
Mm-hmm.
Didn't listen.

(01:06:22):
And then my microwave broke.
They gave me two chances.
I did it twice.
And I was like, well, I
feel like I'm pushing it.
And then it broke.
And I was not happy that I
had to spend $200 on a toaster
because I am, uh, farm thrifty.
They hit me where it hurts.

(01:06:43):
So,
yeah.
Hmm.
Good.
That the adventures, that's
a really good example.
Yeah.
Like, oh, not listening.
Okay.
We're just gonna break this
so you can't use it anymore.
How's that?
Yeah.
Like, that's just how my speed,
my team has to show up for me
because I. Don't always listen you.
But I'm getting better and

(01:07:04):
better and better at listening.
Yeah.
Well, you know, that's a, I think that's
a really, really great point because
all of us that are in, that are in these
modalities, you know, to bring these
things into other people's lives because
we've done it ourselves and Right.
We're vetted.
It's like vetted processes really.

(01:07:25):
Right.
But as days get more challenging, we are
trying to find ways to make things easier.
Mm-hmm.
When the reality is simple.
Yes.
But.
You know, it's really quite complex
in how we have to like, you know, to
bring organic, healthy food into our

(01:07:47):
lives every day into the family's lives.
You know, we're still having to make
incomes to pay for all this stupid crap.
'cause we're stuck in the, the
false matrix with the stupid money
thing that, you know, that then
we have to treat as energy and,
you know, so it's like complex.
Right.
So sometimes Exactly.
We get into those modes too, of

(01:08:08):
like not being, you know, Ugh,
we're human.
Yeah, exactly.
I don't care how spiritual you are.
You at the end of the day and all
your children are fighting or,
and being so cruel to each other,
it's really, really hard to not
like, raise your voice and be like,

(01:08:32):
everyone's.
Exactly.
You know,
we're, we're human.
Human.
Exactly.
We're human.
Yeah.
So
yeah, you,
you do the best you can.
And I think part of it is you get pushed
and pushed to get to that point where
you are shown Yeah, I really am human.

(01:08:53):
Yes.
Like, they don't want you to
forget or be, or, 'cause there's
many spiritual leaders that forget
that they're human because they've
created this bubble around themselves
where they don't have to experience
being human and that is going away.
Yeah.
And it's really important that we
keep, we really keep that balance.

(01:09:14):
Yeah.
Until nobody has to be, have those,
I'm not gonna say, I'm not gonna say
human, but we'll always be human.
But those really tangible,
physical, low density things.
Yeah.
We need to do those two.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You
know, it's okay to eat
junk food once in a while.
Right.
Some people more than a once in

(01:09:34):
a while depends on your body.
Yeah.
Depends on, depends on the body.
Everyone's different.
Yeah.
And people are so judgmental
about, oh, you have to have
all this and have to all this.
It's like, what works for you
with your energy right now?
Yeah.
If it doesn't work with
you, then make changes.
If it does, you don't need
to change unless you want to.

(01:09:54):
There's no force always.
The only reason I went gluten free is
because my, my hands wouldn't move.
Exactly.
I was just to say, it always depends
on like, how good do you wanna feel?
Yeah.
These are the questions, you
know, but even like in Ayurvedic
teachings, it's like 80 20 rule.
Mm-hmm.
You know?
'cause man, when we're really
rigid, that rigid, I've been

(01:10:16):
very rigid in certain aspect.
You know, trying it through the,
through the healing and things,
you know, it's like rigidness.
'cause that doesn't work.
That's a very difficult energy
and that doesn't work because.
You are here on earth
as it is in this moment.
Yeah.
Hard to swallow, but here, here it is,
you know, and all it's, you know, and

(01:10:37):
that, that is another truth that I think
is really great for us to just drop in
here because, I think that when we're on
healing journeys and we're feeling into
all the energies, it's easy to get caught
up in like, you know, in that rigid energy
of not allowing, you know, like this whole
permission and allowing thing is very,

(01:10:58):
and a very interesting dance right now.
And I feel it's very tied to the whole
love and light part of it as well.
Yeah.
Like it's, it's, yeah.
Yeah.
It can become too much
of a good thing is toxic,
right?
Right.
In most things like medicines, herbs
too much, like a little tiny bit,

(01:11:19):
oh, it's healing and beautiful,
have too much, it's poison.
Exactly.
So it's exactly learning
where your line is.
Listening to your body instead of
other people telling you what to do, I
think is a huge part of this journey.
Totally.
Where we are on Earth right now.
Absolutely agreed.

(01:11:41):
I love it.
Alright, so where can people explore you?
So my website is Spruce
Energy Healing.com.
I'm on Instagram and Facebook
and YouTube and TikTok.
It's pretty much all the same content,
just, you know, dispersed, put everywhere.
Yes, most of my, like there's
some things that I'm on Instagram

(01:12:02):
and Facebook that aren't anywhere
else because they're pictures.
But yeah, digress.
All Spruce Energy Healing.
Beautiful.
And all of them have a picture of
me for the little logo thing, so.
You know.
You know you found
you.
You know you found me.
Yeah.
If it looks like me
there, I'm

(01:12:23):
brilliant.
Well, thank you, Leanne.
I appreciate your time and your energy
and your beautiful spirit, and thank
you for sharing your wisdom today.
I very much enjoyed this conversation
and just this very open, genuine energy.
It's beautiful.
Oh, thank you so much.
I am so happy that you had me on and

(01:12:43):
the rescheduling worked and just all.
Perfect.
Wonderful.
Worked out great.
Exactly.
So, and we, we both were able
to breathe this whole time.
Oh yes.
I'll, yeah.
Brilliant.
I love when my sinuses are working for me.
Spirit is working through us.
Alright, so we're gonna talk every

(01:13:04):
day then just stay online and,
okay.
I could use this energy boost every
day, so, you know, I could do that.
Alright.
Yeah.
Working sessions.
Exactly.
Cool.
Alright, well thank you and thank
you everyone for joining us today.
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