June 27, 2025 • 57 mins
Alcohol. The not so innocent human disconnect. Although it is widely acceptable to drink alcohol. It's not exactly, elevating you or allowing you to, mature emotionally, spiritually and mentally. Whenever we use a defense mechanism to numb our feelings.
We are weakening our internal resources to grow. In order for us to grow. We need to confront the pain and heal the pain without. Without feeling the pain. You can do neither. Alcohol is something that jumps generationally from one generation to the the next. If you are a drinker. Your children, grandchild, children, and your multi-generational family are way more likely to drink as well.
If you want to cut back, you could start by taking a day off and enjoying a nice clean glass of Perrier water and lime, or another nice clean beverage that will, nourish you and hydrate you. Let's see what else. Drinkers and nondrinkers are not on the same page. They vibrate on a different level, and they don't really connect spiritually, emotionally and mentally.
Alcohol to alcohol. Friends may be having a jolly good time. But there's no real evolution of connection there.
We are weakening our internal resources to grow. In order for us to grow. We need to confront the pain and heal the pain without. Without feeling the pain. You can do neither. Alcohol is something that jumps generationally from one generation to the the next. If you are a drinker. Your children, grandchild, children, and your multi-generational family are way more likely to drink as well.
If you want to cut back, you could start by taking a day off and enjoying a nice clean glass of Perrier water and lime, or another nice clean beverage that will, nourish you and hydrate you. Let's see what else. Drinkers and nondrinkers are not on the same page. They vibrate on a different level, and they don't really connect spiritually, emotionally and mentally.
Alcohol to alcohol. Friends may be having a jolly good time. But there's no real evolution of connection there.
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Speaker 1 (00:40):
Hello, Hello everyone, and thank you so much for dropping
in on Doctor Judy WTF And tonight's episode is titled
Alcohol The Not So Innocent Human Disconnect, and as a
specialist and healing human disconnect, I could talk to the
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problem of alcohol as a form of human disconnect, and
we're going to get right into it. But I do
want to read you some not so fun facts, So
a little bit about alcohol. I'm taking this from Google.
Alcohol significantly impacts the brain, affecting communication pathways. So being
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that you want to have a healthier mental life, communication
is definitely affected. Short term effects include impaired judgment, coordination,
and memory. Long term heavy drinking can lead to more
serious issues like brain damage, cognitive decline, and increase to
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risk of mental health problems. Okay, so we're going to
see if this is worth it. Daily alcohol consumption has
a profound impact on the liver, so now we're talking
about the body here. It can cause the spectrum of
potential effects ranging from mild fatty liver to severee alcoholic
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hepatitis and zirrhosis of the liver. The liver is the
primary site for alcohol metabolism, particularly vulnerable to alcohol related
damage and then the third thing I wanted to read
to you. I think that's about it on the facts here.
The fact is that it is a human disconnect. Why
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I'm going to dive into it in more detail, but generally,
when a sober brain talks to an inebriated brain, they
really are on different wave lengths. Okay, so just in
a general sense, they're just not on the same page.
This is a call and show everyone, and please feel
free to do so. Three two three, five, two four
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two five nine nine. And here at the Psychological Healing Center,
we mind map the past so that you can get
into your future, and then we mind map your future
so that you can manifest your best life. Again, We've
been doing episodes on mind mapping your past childhood wounds
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and then taking you into mind mapping your future, which
doctor Perry and I have work to create. And so
those of you who have more or less maybe more
than fix their pass they can start to begin to
manifest a better future. Those who are stuck on horrible
childhood wounds that infect them their life and infect their
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negative core beliefs may have a little bit more work
to do on mind mapping their paths. So either way
reach out to us Psychological Healing Center. The call in
number again three two three five, two four two five
nine nine. Now let's take a look at alcohol through
the lens of what it does to social connect or
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lack thereof, and what it is that it is really
feeding here. So let's go back to the mind map
and mind map the wounds of childhood. So let's see
what they are. So if you put up the panels,
you can see that the first panel is the wound
of childhood. Of course, my artwork is a metaphor for
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the wounds which are represented by the shadows, the shadows
that overshadow your light, which is really the best of
your best, so it's your highest manifestation. The shadows bring
you down cognitively, they bring you down, energetically, they bring
you down spiritually, they bring you down physically. They even
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bring you down financially because it can cost a lot
of money to drink, not to mention DUIs and entanglements
with the law and accidents and so on and and
so forth. And so you can see that these wounds
of childhood, which I delve into basically five or six
of them, which is physical abuse, verbal abuse, sexual abuse, neglect, emotional,
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physical neglect, smothering, controlling, and of course narcissistic parents who
lack empathy and don't connect with their children very well
at all. So the point of Panel Ian is to
illuminate the darkness which is what you've been shadowed over with,
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and your light, which is your manifestation of the very
best self that you can be, and see where these
shadows punch what I call a hole in the soul.
What is a hole in the soul? A hole in
the soul is a pain point that needs to be
medicated avoided, something that creates a a distress, a disease
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within the psyche and also relates to the body and
the spirit. So as you developed this hole in the
soul from human disconnects of the nature that I described,
especially when you're not connected to emotionally by parents who
lack empathy and have a high degree of narcissism and
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put their own needs before you, it cracks your lungs
of perception. It actually cracks you up, so to speak,
and creates what I call Panel two reactions, which are
reactions in the amygdala. So my second panel is a
metaphor for cracking up. It's also a metaphor for the
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pain that is created from human disconnect and you can
see the pain as represented by the red throbbing sores
or actions, and then the crack glass, which is a
representation of something broken within and shattered within. And these
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shatterings create what we call, from an emotional regulation point
of view, fight, flight, freeze, and fonts. So those of
you who have to deal with your emotional disregulation because
your parents don't regulate you and because life has wounded you,
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I have an awfully hard time doing that because we
need our parents, our primary caregivers, to soothe us, to
calm us down. Going back to John Bolby attachment theory,
what we need to have a human psyche that's healthy
is we need touch, We need eye contact, skin contact,
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consistency mirroring, the ability to have parents that put their
needs aside in order to fulfill on your needs. So
these are just the basic things that we need as
infants to thrive emotionally. And if we don't thrive very
well emotionally, then we encode all kinds of bad stuff
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into our psyche. So if we go to panel number three,
we could see that this bad stuff includes negative core beliefs.
So there is my metaphor for the DNA strand, which
represents encodings, but not very healthy encodings and codings like
I'm not good enough, I'm not powerful enough, I'm not lovable,
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I'm not special. The worst ones that I've heard is
I wish you were never born. These kinds of things
land and panel three, so you could see that panels one,
two and three are the encoding of the pain. And
so let's keep alcohol in mind. What does alcohol do?
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Obviously it numbs us. Okay, So then when something in
life triggers us and we go into panels four five six,
let me show you those. So panel four five six
is the chaos, the chaos of life that happens when
you get fired, or you go through breakup, or you
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have a horrible day, or somebody insults you, or the
world goes the wry and you're stressed out of your
gord dealing with current events, which we all are. And
you can see that this disregulation allads us in a
human disconnect. So now not only are we disconnected from
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our family of origin, our parents, our care givers, but
we're also now disconnected from ourselves and we have no directtion,
so we're neither north south, east west. We're sort of
flying off the handle, if you will, not feeling really good,
not feeling really good. So you could see in panel
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four it's loaded with toxicity, it's loaded with disconnect. The
DNA strands are no longer integrated. They are loose, kind
of like loose wires, and there's no structure here. And
so we are therefore in panel four, at the effect
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of whatever hits us, whatever triggers us. So let's go
to panel five, which is where alcohol lives. Okay, so
here is the home of alcohol and alcohol use and abuse.
And what is alcohol? It is a defense mechanism. And
so when we don't feel well, do we want to
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feel the pain. Obviously we don't want to feel the pain.
And the more we don't want to feel the pain,
the more we want to numb the pain with what
I call drug, sex and walk and roll, alcohol being
one of them. And sometimes they all kind of come together.
You drink more and then you have more attraction to porn,
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and then your relationships become more alienated. And so this
is sort of like the alienation defense mechanism panel. So
people who don't want to feel the feelings of the chaos.
They don't want to feel their Panel one wounds. They
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don't want to feel disregulated. They don't want to deal
with horrible negative core beliefs that make them feel like
they're worthless and lack of self esteem and all of that. Well,
there's an easy and quick solution, isn't there. And the
more you drink, the more you hole up into defense
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mechanism alcohol. And what I find very disconcerting is that
alcohol is treated as those this really innocent thing to do.
It's traditional. Let's have a glass of wine. Let's go
out for a glass of wine. Let's have a glass
of wine after work, Let's have a glass of wine
during the party. Let's have a glass of wine to unwind.
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Let's have a glass of wine or other forms of alcohol.
And so it's treated as though it's perfectly okay. However,
now more and more neuroscientists are saying that even a
little bit of alcohol is extremely damaging to the brain.
Doctor Emon talks about it. If you want google him.
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He has some important things to say about the brain
function and what alcohol does to the brain. And I
think you need to all get psycho educated, even if
you're drinking a little bit, you want to know what
the freud is going on with the effects of alcohol,
both on your psyche, your body, your spirit, all of this,
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because we're made of mind, body, and soul, aren't we.
So let's talk about it as a disconnect. Why is
it a disconnect? You think that it's a social connect
because you know you're more loquacious when you drink, and hey, buddy,
how are you doing, and looser and you want to
socialize with people. So in that regard, you might look
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at it as a connection. But what are you really
connecting to and who are you really connecting to? Other
people who are vibrating at a lower wavelength alcohol wavelength,
which is not as let's say, evolved as a brain
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that is free and clear of drugs and is available
to be authentic and available to be vulnerable and available
to feel paid pain and process through pain and grow
through pain. So people who are stuck in panel five
are often very immature because whenever we use defense mechanisms
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to the point where we don't grow, we get stuck
at that phase of development. So, going back to phases
of development, there are all kinds of psychologists who described
the oral phase and the anal phase and all kinds
of phases of maturity. And so what happens is these
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phases get stuck. Okay, so there's no progress. So people
who use alcohol to fill in the hole in the
soul never really learn to regulate their emotions. And we
have a question, so sure, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yes, actually we have two questions, and says my partner
and I only seem to communicate well when drinking together.
Is that a red flag?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I think it is. I'd like you to do an
experiment and even just go one day without it. To me,
what it speaks to is that there are pain points
in the relationship that are way too uncomfortable to address
in a naked, sober form, and so you need a
little bit of that gold liquid or clear liquid to
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just kind of get the party started. It does less
than results. So, you know, people say it's the truth serum.
So if you drink, you might say things that are truth. However,
they may not be said kindly, or they may not
be said in a way that is progressive. So if
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you tell somebody you know, the truth is, I've never
been in love with you ever ever, And you know
the truth is I'm not attracted to you. The truth is,
I've been having an affair. I mean, okay, great, you're
telling truths, but irresponsibly. So okay, if you really want
to talk to somebody, you might want to enter into
a real conversation. And so alcohol numbs you to the
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point where you could say the truth, but you're not
really dealing with the mature level of conversation that sobriety
would bring to the table if you were to lay
it out on the table. So sure, I love the
idea of lowerre your responsiveness. Okay, so maybe it'll take
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the edge off, but you know how much of the
edge is taken off and what is actually being said
that's not really being said in an authentic, non inebriated way,
which makes us more vulnerable. So basically, what I'm saying
is that the alcohol takes away a lot of the vulnerability,
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even though it looks like it is allowing us to
loosen up and have loose tongue and say whatever we want.
You know, there's this shield around us that is dotting
down the hurt. And I think it's always better to
deal with things that are hurting authentically. If they hurt
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you could say, you know, this is really hurting me
and feel the impact of that pain. Alcohol will not
let you feel the impact of the pain. Does that
answer the question? Give me a nod? Anything in the
chat room?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I mean, it makes sense to me. But we'll see
if they respond in the chat room. So we'd love
to hear if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I mean, I get it. I've had conversations after a
few glasses of drinks and sure you know, like, oh yeah,
I've been meaning to tell you. But sometimes you don't
even remember what you said, and you certainly don't say
it in a way that is well thought out oftentimes,
and that could get you in a lot of trouble.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
We have another question, but actually I have a question
for you. Personal note. You know, I grew up in
a very alcoholic family, but I never drink. I never had.
I never been drunk. I never I've had SIPs once,
you know, years ago. I just never liked it. Why
does it make other people that drink feel uncomfortable to
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be around me?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Not the vice versa, because okay, several things they know
in the heart of hearts that they're using a substance
to get through life, and that weakens their position. So
I think it's hard for them to admit the fact
that you're running on optimal fuel, which is life course okay,
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and they're running on a very compromised fuel, which is
the alcohol, and that already puts them in a one
bownsmanship position that you know you can you can do this,
you know you can do life without without alcohol. So
it's kind of like you fly higher, you fly better,
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you fly stronger, and they need this crutch to kind
of limph through their emotions. So that's already going to
make them uncomfortable. The second thing is that there's an
automatic disconnect. So it's sort of like music and cacophony. Okay.
So when you're in music and when you're in harmony
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with somebody, you're you're vibrating right, your tones, your frequency
level is sinking up. When you are talking to somebody
on alcohol or worth talking to an alcoholic who's severely inebriated,
you guys are just not sinking up, and so there's
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no progress. There might be muzak, you know, at best,
you know, muzak is that nice elevator and hey, how
you doing? Yeah? Yeah, like the beer, yeah, like that
other bread you know, like you might have good, superficial
talk and a jolly good time over a few drinks.
It's just that there's nothing of quality necessarily being said
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and discussed.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah, yeah, right, yeah. I've had that many times, where
as soon as they find out I don't drink, they're
just like they don't know what to do, they don't
know what to say, and I'm like, they don't.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I'm struggling with that personally. I have a very dear
friend and he's got some amazing qualities, but I find
that when this person drinks, and I'm telling you, the
first thing the person does when he gets to my
house is go for the alcohol, which he brings, by
the way, because I don't really carry much alcohol in
the house. It's it's an immediate repellent for me. The smell,
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the twinkle, the fake twinkle in the eyes, you know,
the glazed look, the the phony smiles, you know, like
what are you smiling about? Like, yeah, smiling, the whoopie,
I'm high, Like that's not a smile, that's not you
know how they talk about fake smiles versus authentic smiles.
And you're really smiling, your eyes are smiling well, and
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alcoholics eyes are not smiling, they're twinkling from me, glazed over.
That's how I see it, and it's not connect at all.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
No, I agree. I agree. And even now here in California,
I used to when I moved here, when I say
I didn't drink or I don't drink, people always thought
I was in recovery. And I was like, no, I
just that's true.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
People would think that because you're right, go ahead, No.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
That that was it. I was just saying, it's it's
I always thought it was funny because I have to
say I've never I don't drink and I've never drunk.
I had I have to add that instead of just saying, no,
I'm not in recovery.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
So and by the way, I know you haven't seen
to anybody really looks well and the skin glows and
he's very healthy, and he goes to the gym a lot,
and you know, right, Tony, you do.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
And it called our body is a temple.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
So yeah. So that's another thing is that I think
spiritually speaking of spiritually, right, you're either spiritual or you're
spiritually induced.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Right, that's why they call it spirits.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Spirit But it's a fake spirit, Okay, spirit from the
dark side. And so that's why when you're connecting, even
if you're meditating, you're not going to meditate when you're
high on alcohol, because you're trying to meditate hate and
connect with the universe or connect with God or higher power.
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Or if you're praying, you're not going to sit there
with a ball of vodka and pray because now you're
really disconnecting from your spirit while you're connecting to your
dark side of your spirit. If that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
It does, It does. And actually, somebody this was one
of the questions that says, if I want to cut
back on drinking, how do I start rebuild rebuilding real
emotional connection, especially with myself.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I love that question. That's such an honorable question. You
know that already says that you want to cut back
on drinking because you're realizing that what I'm talking about
holds truth to you. So that's a beautiful thing. And
so you want to expose your pain rather than cover
up your pain. So Number one that we need to
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make friends with our pain, you know, instead of saying
oh no, no, no, no pain. Like today, I got
a massage. It was very deep, and at first I
was recoiling and oh, don't go there, and you know,
and then I thought, no, no, no, no, go into
the pain, because the more pain I experience on that
massage table, the more release I'll experience off of the
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massage table. So it's the same thing. You want to
make friends with your pain, because your pain is informative.
If somebody hurt your feelings, if you're feeling lonely, if
you're feeling disconnected, you want to feel that so that
you can actually do something about it, more than just
medicate it and block it from your very existence. So
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I think if you truly want to do this several ways, Okay,
I used to have a stop smoking clinic called Habit Breakers,
And by the way, I'm going to be bringing back
my book kick It, Stop Smoking Cold Turkey or Gradual
Withdrawal the Choices Yours. I'll be doing a show on
that in the near future, and that'll be available as
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a book to you guys. I can't tell you when
because I'm obsessive, compulsive and I just wanted to look right.
Although I do have versions of it. I think it's
on Amazon somewhere, but I just want to make this
really well done. So when you kick a habit, the
first thing you want to do is rid yourself of
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the substance. So you don't want to keep it around
because it's too tempting. However, you want to do some
fun substitute. So in your refrigerator you can have things
like Perrier water and lime, or you can have coconut water,
or you can have healthy protein drinks or juices, or
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you can just substitute it with plain water and lemon
if you like. And remember that part of drinking is
an oral gratification. So if you put your soda water,
let's say you're Perrier water in a pretty crystal glass,
and you put some mint on top, and you squeeze
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a lemon in it, and if you want to sweeten it,
you could put a little bit of stevia or monk
sugar so that you don't spike your glucose, which I'm
very conscious of and enjoy that. I also know that
there are some non alcoholic beverages out there that they've
been advertising. I'm going to look into that because I
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don't want to be drinking something with a lot of
horrible ingredients in it, So you know, be cautious of
those things. But I think number one, just sit with
yourself and sit in the pain. Maybe sit with lots
of water or soda water, Maybe have a conversation, Maybe
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do one day one day without alcohol and see what
that's like. And then if you're running from your feelings,
then close your eyes, take a break, and breathe. And
a good way to breathe is to just inhale for
a few seconds, hold for four or five seconds, and
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then a long exhalation and see what comes up. Because
your mind and your body and your soul are trying
to communicate with you, the alcohol is actually blocking the
communication because the alcohol is fear based. Your emotions are
based on authenticity, love, truth, growth. Alcohol is fear, constriction, repression, disconnect. Okay,
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so if you start associating alcohol not only physically with
negative things, but if you start associating alcohol with lack
of psychological growth, lack of spiritual growth, then you can
kind of like take an inventory on what is the
price tag that you pay for drinking alcohol. I read
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you some things about cognitive decline and liver dysfunction, and
then you could take a whole inventory about how much
you pay for drinking and any DUIs that you've incurred,
any attorneys that you've had to pay because of your
DUIs anything, any friendships that have been broken because you've
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said too much in a state of disconnect and in
the state of loose tongue. Okay, so all of these
things take a toll on your life. So I think
that people just drink and they don't really consider the
price tag that they're engaging in because it feels so
good that they think that it's so rewarding. And remember,
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partial reinforcement is the number one strongest reinforcement on the planet.
So if you have a lot of negative experiences with alcohol,
but you also have some really great highs associated with it,
then you're going to go for the intermittent reinforcement. You're
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going to remember the good. You're going to forget the bad.
Also because you're cognitive declining, so you're probably forgetting everything,
but you're going to especially forget the bad because you're
always searching for the high. So it's that search for
the high that takes precedence over the logical inventory of
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the effects of alcohol. Okay, we have a call. Awesome,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Hello, Hi is that doctor Jody?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
It is? How are you?
Speaker 3 (30:11):
I'm fine, how are you.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I'm good? And what name would you like me to
call you by? And you can make one up if
you want.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Okay, so I'll go with John.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
John. Okay, John, So what brings you to this phone call?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Actually, I'm a big fan of your work. I bought
your book he did in Disconnect long time ago, and
I've been yeah, I've been listening to your videos and
I really really your book was very simple to understand
and just saved my life and saved the people that
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I'm also with. You know, my family, my sister, her children,
she's recently divorced. We came from a very dysfunctional family,
not aware of psychological trauma and everything. And so yeah,
you've been a great source of insight and light. I
would say thank.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
You so much. That really really means a lot to me,
because there's nothing that I can think of better than
being an influencer in the sense of positively influencing a
person's life in the next generation. I just can't think
of a better feeling. So I really really appreciate your acknowledging.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Yeah, I mean and yeah, thank you. And also the
simplicity of your work, you know, is not very complicated
at all. It's like, Okay, this is what you have,
this is what you've been through, and this is how
you do it. And it's very very and.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah, yeah, because you know, I went through so much
schooling and so many theories and it made me dizzy.
And then being a traditional psychologist and talking and talking
and talking and years of talking, Oh my god, was
making me a headache. You know, So I thought of
making a near headache and it's probably making my patients
(32:06):
a headache. And I've got to simplify it. So it's
kind of like my E equals MC square psychology formula,
if you will. The mind map, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
And the mind map is just like I said, is
just very straightforward. And you know, I have a degree
in psychology myself, and it's very complicated. If you don't
put things in perspective, if you don't organize it, if
you don't make it very how can I put it,
you know, in a very summarized, in a very perspective way,
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it will be very very hard for people to understand
it clearly. And your book and the map, yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I'm sure you experience that. May I ask what kind
of work do you do? What line are you in?
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Actually I am. I work for myself. I do something
called bc are, which is like it's not related to psychology,
but I wanted to work in this field. And you know, yeah,
he helped me a lot. Like I said, if it
wasn't for the inside I've gained, you know, throughout the years,
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especially your work and and and you know the knowledge
I've gained, I don't know what i'd been. You know,
I would have been more addicted. I would have been
in trouble. And so now my sister also benefits from
my from my knowledge. So you know, my brother and
everyone around me. I gave her your book as well.
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She's unfortunately recently divorced. And because she was living with
a covert narcissist, she gave yeah, yeah, she gave him chances.
And she understood now that you know, he really affected
her life. Six for sixteen years, she didn't know her
problems and and you know, all the psychological problems, all
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the psychological manipulation, all the even health issues that she
was dealing with very big.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Time because you're when you're living or married to a narcissist,
especially when you're in a relationship with your a narcissist
and if, especially if you're a people pleaser, they will
suck you dry emotionally, physically, spiritually, and it's just something
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that actually makes you physically sick. I can't tell you
how many people complain of backache, headache, and all kinds
of disease because of this vampiring effect, as I like
to call it. So go ahead and tell me why
you're calling, particularly about the alcohol topic.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Right, Okay, Actually I'm not calling regarding alcohol because I
don't have problem with it and I don't even drink.
But the reason I called is I wanted you advice
on I have my sister's children to loved nephews, you know,
fifteen and thirteen, and the fifteen nephew is very intelligent
(35:13):
for his age. He's been through a lot, and I
don't want him to repeat the generational trauma that would
being we've gone through. Befriended him, I love him, he
loves me. So my question to you, is is it
appropriate now to give him your book because he's very
intelligent and smart.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Definitely, and I've been wanting to get this into the
hands of children. As a matter of fact, in my
original video, the nine panel Mindmap video series, which still
available very inexpensively. I have my grandson in there explaining
the mind map. So it's what I love.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
About I look at that one definitely for.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Sure, for sure okay, and you can contact me and
make sure that you get it. And it's pretty inexpensive
at this point. I really lowered the price point on it.
I don't know what, but it's on my website. And
the thing is that with the mind map. Just to
give you a little hint, Panel one, two three, this
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is how my four year old grandson shrunk it down.
He analyzed paneled one. Grandma, that's the boo boo. Okay,
it's true. It's the boo boo. The boo boo hurts
right and then and then it makes you feel bad
about yourself. Okay. So that's how easy it is for
children to understand. Doesn't matter what age, what race, what religion,
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what anything. It just speaks to the human being because
it's visual and easy to understand. So another thing about
about so making it relevant to the topic of alcohol.
One thing we know for sure about children is what
they see you do is what they're going to copy
to do. Okay. So that's why it's important for your nephew.
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Is that your nephew?
Speaker 3 (37:10):
You said, yeah, I did my nephews.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yes, Okay, to learn the mind map, because you know,
at this stage they're exposed to alcohol and all kinds
of drugs, and if they've had any hole in the soul,
which we all have on some level, okay, they it's
easy to be influenced by their friend to fill it
so that if they can understand how to avoid stepping
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into panel number number five defense mechanisms alcohol being one
of them, then you know what you're really doing. And
another day I'm going to talk about smoking too, which
is a very big topic of mind. Whenever you help
somebody to recognize their defense mechanisms and be authentic with themselves,
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you're doing them a big service because you're helping them
deal with their own pain authentically without numbing it. Okay.
And also you're helping to help them to grow. And
that's this is a very big deal to be a
teenager because you don't want to have arrested development.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Okay, right, yeah, I'll do that because I you know,
I thought maybe I'm going to overwhelm him by all
the psychological knowledge because I want him to be away
from now as you know, you know, this trauma would
affect your life for you know, until you become aware
(38:39):
of it exactly. So I wanted to Yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
If you do get that video, the nine panel mind
Map video, and then I have another one healing from
narcissistic abuse. Maybe you could show it on the screen
the two that's the last one I did, healing from
narcissistic abuse, and then there's another one, all the nine
panel mine Map journey, right, and we're in there. Maybe
(39:07):
you could start with the first one and then later
on move to healing from narcissistic abuse.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
I will do that. Thank you so much, beautiful for
your work. You're changing lives. I'm calling you from the UK,
you know, and it's been a yeah, it's been a
pleasure to really talk to you, and definitely I'll do that.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
I really appreciate it. Thank you, John, take care, Thank you. Okay,
So this is not just about you, It's about the
next generation. Remember, be the cause of healing human disconnect
so that you can be living the best life. You
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can live better outcomes for your life and pay it
forward to the next generation. So if you drink, if
you smoke, if you do any kinds of substance use.
Your children are way more likely to copycat that behavior
and do it themselves. So you can't sit around and
complain that your son or your daughter or your niece
(40:15):
or nephew or whoever is smoking and drinking and doing
drugs when you're sitting there with your vodka, your martini
or whiskey or beer or whatever, because it's really the
same thing. I mean, I know the substances are different,
but the intention, okay. And one of the things I
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talk about in my book be the cause healing human disconnect.
First thing I talk about is the consciousness, and you can,
by the way, pick that up from Amazon. If you
want a PDF version, you can pick it off my website.
But consciousness is causal. If you come from the consciousness
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of denial, you're going to get drugs, sex, rock and
roll defense mechanisms, alcohol, of course included. If you come
from the consciousness of truth and authenticity and vulnerability, then
you're going to elevate yourself, even if it feels painful
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to deal with your feelings and to deal with truth
conversations with others. And speaking of truth conversations, I have
something in the book that all of you should read
called the Peaceful Healing Dialogue, and the Peaceful Healing Dialogue,
which is in the book, teaches you how to have
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a dialogue without blowing the bridge, without disconnecting. And unfortunately,
when you're talking dialoguing under the influence of alcohol, then
you're not having really a truth dialogue, even though call
alcohol a truth theoreum. You're just kind of spilling your feelings,
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but you're not really processing them, and you're not really
tuned into being a receptacle of what the other person
on the other end has to say about it or
feel about it. More importantly, so you might think that
you're having an honest conversation, but what's lacking is that
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it's not coming from a causal point. It's coming from
the wound. It's probably coming from your reactions. You know,
if you're speaking about your pain under the influence, you're
probably in a reactive activated form because your childhood wounds
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are triggered. And so that's not where the conversation needs
to stem from. It has to stem from integration, where
you integrate the feelings, you understand your feelings, you're honest
and authentic about your feelings and you're sharing your feelings
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with somebody who's equally as interested and receptive, and then
you can both have an elevated synergistic conversation that will
take you to another level of empathy connection, raising each
other up mentally, spiritually, psychologically. Okay, does that make sense?
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One is evolution, So let's jump to different panel. You know,
let's go to panel number six. Let's not skip over
that one. So panel number six is when alcohol and
you break down. Okay, you end up at a facility,
or you know, worse, you're you're in an accident because
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of alcohol related accident, your marriage breaks up over it,
or friendships are breaking down because of this. And sometimes
when people break down, they use it as an opportunity
or they're forced, at least at the beginning to break through. Okay,
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So breakdown can be a breakthrough if you make it so.
So listen to that again. If you make it so,
if you're just going to use it as an excuse
to go lower and lower, you'll end up in the gutter.
But if you make it an excuse or reason to
elevate and be done with it. In other words, the
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old system has to collapse for a new one. To
be built up. And so let's move to panel number
seven so we could see what's possible. So panel seven,
if two people, let's say the blue person and the
yellow person are talking and there's there's no alcohol, there's
no barrier between them, there is light growth, progress, understanding, connection, authenticity, synergy. Okay,
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that's what's possible. But if the two people are inebriated,
or one is inebriated and the other one sober, they're
on different wavelengths. There's no truth, there's no connection, there's
no authenticity, there's no real vulnerability and growth. Okay, see
the difference. So I think it's important that people who
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don't drink hang around people who don't drink. It's just
healthier that way. So the whole idea is to work
through your defense mechanisms so that you can be vulnerable
and protective at the same time. I call it a
semi permeable membrane. Going back to panel five. You don't
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want to close everybody out. You don't want to open
up to everybody and be boundaryless. You want to be
a semi permeable membrane, letting in the good and keeping
out the bad. Because that's how we stay balanced, right,
like a cell in the human body, we let in
the good stuff, we keep out the bad stuff. And
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so through this process we can we can paradigm shift
and into panel number seven eight nine. So going back
to seven, now you are seeing the light, you're reconnected
with it. You're looking for synergistic relationships, so that the
healing process right. So that is a synergistic relationship. That's
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the only thing that I would be interested in having
in my lifetime. People who add to me and I
add to them one plus one is greater than two
me and another person enhances their life or that other
person also hances enhances my life. And so that is
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what we want to bring to the world, is we
want to enhance each other and eventually we want to
push each other up the evolutionary ladder, which is panel
number eight. Metaphorically speaking, So if you look at panel
number eight, you've now gone through the trials and tribulations
of dealing with your emotions, the ugly ones included. Now
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you're maturing, you have more mental and physical and spiritual health,
and now you want to climb and evolve, and you
want to do it with like minded people. So you're
pushing yourself up the evolutionary ladder, and each one is
helping and being helped. So it's a process of teamwork,
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and you could see that instead of chaos, there's clarity.
The water is a metaphor for clarity and health and
a clean slate and a fresh start. And so through
this evolutionary process, which obviously doesn't include an inebriated state,
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because then you might fall off the ladder. You know,
physically and proverbially speaking, you can't climb very well when
you're drunk, and so you want to just keep rising
and rising and rising in health. So one of the
things I say in my book be the cause healing
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human disconnect is that health begets health. Any other questions
in the chat room.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
There is one question. I mean, it kind of goes
back a lot, many many, many, many many generations, but
it says, why is drinking so normalize in our culture
even though it's often leads to emotional distance and relationships.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
Well, I mean, the first thought that flashed into my
mind was if you refer to the Bible, you see
it ceremonially incorporated into different rituals, and you know, and
so on the grapes of You know, I guess on
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some level it could be used in a celebratory manner,
you know, you drink too good health, or at a
wedding you toast the bride in the groom. Yeah, I
mean in very small moderation, and I'm talking about very small.
It might have a small place except that when it
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becomes this defense mechanism, and you'll know it because you
will literally stop growing psychologically, you just will stop growing,
and you will keep leaning on it, like you know,
you get more and more broken, and it's sort of
like the broken leaning on a broken system. But I
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think it's got a long history culturally. Different cultures use
alcohol in different ways. But you know, I've always said,
if you have a choice between what's culturally correct and
what is correct for your mental, spiritual, and emotional well being,
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I will choose that. I've always been interested in creating
systems that work for the human race, not for one
culture or another. That's why I created the mind Map.
Originally it was called Join the Human Race Healing Global Disconnect,
and then I went micro on it because I saw
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that the system was just us relevant to healing human disconnect.
And it's hard to heal global disconnect. When you don't
heal human disconnect, it's hard to get countries to agree
and create synergy when we can't even have synergy with
ourselves or our significant others. So that's why I went
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from micro to macro. But I'm still very passionate about
creating a humane race with principles of the mind map
that going to the direction of healing and point in
the direction of synergy. Global synergy. By the way, I'm
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playing a big game of life, almost seems impossible these days,
doesn't it. You know, how can people of various cultures
get it together and get along? It's just that on
a sole level, we are one, and on a sole level,
we desire, above and beyond anything else, we desire to
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connect with each other. That's how we're built. And so
I want to go back to that raw place where
all human beings have in common, the desire to connect,
the desire to create synergy. And I still have that
dream and it's strong that we will find a way
to be of one even though we're different, which is beautiful,
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but we'll find a way to synergize the differences so
that we add to each other, whether we're different religions, cultures, sexes,
anything that who we're being is going to add to
who other people are being. And that really is the
most profound game that I know of, And it's beyond
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politics as I see it. Yeah, you know, I know
politics are involved, but you know, imagine creating joining the
human race, Okay, saying goodbye to the fractions and the
fallout material and just creating this third entity called the
humane race and becoming a member of that. So that's
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where my head is at, That's where my heart has
always been, and I hope that all of you can
hear the message, especially at this particular time and during
times of stress like we're experiencing globally, we do want
to blank it out and drink it off and whatever
defense mechanism that we've got to feel the pain in
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our heart to awaken our heart to the deep desire
that we all have to be at one with each other.
And I know it's possible to find commonality and to
be to be consciously concentrated with intention on a third entity.
(54:01):
So if you go to my website, Healing globaldisconnect dot com,
maybe you can go there, Tony and just read it
off so people can understand my message.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
So it's global.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
Global Disconnect dot com. Think you go ahead and read that.
If you don't.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
Want dot com. Let me look here.
Speaker 1 (54:26):
Healing Global disconnect dot com and you'll see there we
as a human race. Let me see if I can
pull it up. Let me global dis time to time.
(54:50):
I think I should read it to everybody. Okay, here
it is. It looks like that.
Speaker 4 (54:57):
Okay, all right, So here it is as a human
race under the caption be the cause.
Speaker 1 (55:08):
Okay, As a human race, we have become fragmented into nations, religions,
social classes, politics, and races and more. The fragmentation has
resulted in clash and fallout in the form of human atrocities.
Although we have been able to sort to unlimited heights
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in many areas of human endeavor, we have yet to
accomplish the final frontier, and the most important frontier, to
come together as a united humanity. So I'll leave you
with that. Put that in your consciousness, your intention. Remember
a humane race. Before you are black, white, whatever religion,
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whatever sex, whatever politics. Number one, you're a human being.
So let's begin, at least mentally and intentionally to join
the human race, and you can only join the human
race if you act humanly, you know, if you're not
acting humanly, can't be you know. I'm not giving up
the membership. Okay, so thank you very much. Any other
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comments in the chat room or any other questions.
Speaker 2 (56:22):
I think that's it for tonight. What's that I said?
I think that's all for the night.
Speaker 1 (56:28):
Okay, thank you everyone for joining in. Good night wat
Hello, Hello everyone, and thank you so much for dropping
in on Doctor Judy WTF And tonight's episode is titled
Alcohol The Not So Innocent Human Disconnect, and as a
specialist and healing human disconnect, I could talk to the
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problem of alcohol as a form of human disconnect, and
we're going to get right into it. But I do
want to read you some not so fun facts, So
a little bit about alcohol. I'm taking this from Google.
Alcohol significantly impacts the brain, affecting communication pathways. So being
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that you want to have a healthier mental life, communication
is definitely affected. Short term effects include impaired judgment, coordination,
and memory. Long term heavy drinking can lead to more
serious issues like brain damage, cognitive decline, and increase to
(01:45):
risk of mental health problems. Okay, so we're going to
see if this is worth it. Daily alcohol consumption has
a profound impact on the liver, so now we're talking
about the body here. It can cause the spectrum of
potential effects ranging from mild fatty liver to severee alcoholic
(02:06):
hepatitis and zirrhosis of the liver. The liver is the
primary site for alcohol metabolism, particularly vulnerable to alcohol related
damage and then the third thing I wanted to read
to you. I think that's about it on the facts here.
The fact is that it is a human disconnect. Why
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I'm going to dive into it in more detail, but generally,
when a sober brain talks to an inebriated brain, they
really are on different wave lengths. Okay, so just in
a general sense, they're just not on the same page.
This is a call and show everyone, and please feel
free to do so. Three two three, five, two four
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two five nine nine. And here at the Psychological Healing Center,
we mind map the past so that you can get
into your future, and then we mind map your future
so that you can manifest your best life. Again, We've
been doing episodes on mind mapping your past childhood wounds
(03:13):
and then taking you into mind mapping your future, which
doctor Perry and I have work to create. And so
those of you who have more or less maybe more
than fix their pass they can start to begin to
manifest a better future. Those who are stuck on horrible
childhood wounds that infect them their life and infect their
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negative core beliefs may have a little bit more work
to do on mind mapping their paths. So either way
reach out to us Psychological Healing Center. The call in
number again three two three five, two four two five
nine nine. Now let's take a look at alcohol through
the lens of what it does to social connect or
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lack thereof, and what it is that it is really
feeding here. So let's go back to the mind map
and mind map the wounds of childhood. So let's see
what they are. So if you put up the panels,
you can see that the first panel is the wound
of childhood. Of course, my artwork is a metaphor for
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the wounds which are represented by the shadows, the shadows
that overshadow your light, which is really the best of
your best, so it's your highest manifestation. The shadows bring
you down cognitively, they bring you down, energetically, they bring
you down spiritually, they bring you down physically. They even
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bring you down financially because it can cost a lot
of money to drink, not to mention DUIs and entanglements
with the law and accidents and so on and and
so forth. And so you can see that these wounds
of childhood, which I delve into basically five or six
of them, which is physical abuse, verbal abuse, sexual abuse, neglect, emotional,
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physical neglect, smothering, controlling, and of course narcissistic parents who
lack empathy and don't connect with their children very well
at all. So the point of Panel Ian is to
illuminate the darkness which is what you've been shadowed over with,
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and your light, which is your manifestation of the very
best self that you can be, and see where these
shadows punch what I call a hole in the soul.
What is a hole in the soul? A hole in
the soul is a pain point that needs to be
medicated avoided, something that creates a a distress, a disease
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within the psyche and also relates to the body and
the spirit. So as you developed this hole in the
soul from human disconnects of the nature that I described,
especially when you're not connected to emotionally by parents who
lack empathy and have a high degree of narcissism and
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put their own needs before you, it cracks your lungs
of perception. It actually cracks you up, so to speak,
and creates what I call Panel two reactions, which are
reactions in the amygdala. So my second panel is a
metaphor for cracking up. It's also a metaphor for the
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pain that is created from human disconnect and you can
see the pain as represented by the red throbbing sores
or actions, and then the crack glass, which is a
representation of something broken within and shattered within. And these
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shatterings create what we call, from an emotional regulation point
of view, fight, flight, freeze, and fonts. So those of
you who have to deal with your emotional disregulation because
your parents don't regulate you and because life has wounded you,
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I have an awfully hard time doing that because we
need our parents, our primary caregivers, to soothe us, to
calm us down. Going back to John Bolby attachment theory,
what we need to have a human psyche that's healthy
is we need touch, We need eye contact, skin contact,
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consistency mirroring, the ability to have parents that put their
needs aside in order to fulfill on your needs. So
these are just the basic things that we need as
infants to thrive emotionally. And if we don't thrive very
well emotionally, then we encode all kinds of bad stuff
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into our psyche. So if we go to panel number three,
we could see that this bad stuff includes negative core beliefs.
So there is my metaphor for the DNA strand, which
represents encodings, but not very healthy encodings and codings like
I'm not good enough, I'm not powerful enough, I'm not lovable,
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I'm not special. The worst ones that I've heard is
I wish you were never born. These kinds of things
land and panel three, so you could see that panels one,
two and three are the encoding of the pain. And
so let's keep alcohol in mind. What does alcohol do?
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Obviously it numbs us. Okay, So then when something in
life triggers us and we go into panels four five six,
let me show you those. So panel four five six
is the chaos, the chaos of life that happens when
you get fired, or you go through breakup, or you
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have a horrible day, or somebody insults you, or the
world goes the wry and you're stressed out of your
gord dealing with current events, which we all are. And
you can see that this disregulation allads us in a
human disconnect. So now not only are we disconnected from
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our family of origin, our parents, our care givers, but
we're also now disconnected from ourselves and we have no directtion,
so we're neither north south, east west. We're sort of
flying off the handle, if you will, not feeling really good,
not feeling really good. So you could see in panel
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four it's loaded with toxicity, it's loaded with disconnect. The
DNA strands are no longer integrated. They are loose, kind
of like loose wires, and there's no structure here. And
so we are therefore in panel four, at the effect
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of whatever hits us, whatever triggers us. So let's go
to panel five, which is where alcohol lives. Okay, so
here is the home of alcohol and alcohol use and abuse.
And what is alcohol? It is a defense mechanism. And
so when we don't feel well, do we want to
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feel the pain. Obviously we don't want to feel the pain.
And the more we don't want to feel the pain,
the more we want to numb the pain with what
I call drug, sex and walk and roll, alcohol being
one of them. And sometimes they all kind of come together.
You drink more and then you have more attraction to porn,
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and then your relationships become more alienated. And so this
is sort of like the alienation defense mechanism panel. So
people who don't want to feel the feelings of the chaos.
They don't want to feel their Panel one wounds. They
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don't want to feel disregulated. They don't want to deal
with horrible negative core beliefs that make them feel like
they're worthless and lack of self esteem and all of that. Well,
there's an easy and quick solution, isn't there. And the
more you drink, the more you hole up into defense
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mechanism alcohol. And what I find very disconcerting is that
alcohol is treated as those this really innocent thing to do.
It's traditional. Let's have a glass of wine. Let's go
out for a glass of wine. Let's have a glass
of wine after work, Let's have a glass of wine
during the party. Let's have a glass of wine to unwind.
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Let's have a glass of wine or other forms of alcohol.
And so it's treated as though it's perfectly okay. However,
now more and more neuroscientists are saying that even a
little bit of alcohol is extremely damaging to the brain.
Doctor Emon talks about it. If you want google him.
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He has some important things to say about the brain
function and what alcohol does to the brain. And I
think you need to all get psycho educated, even if
you're drinking a little bit, you want to know what
the freud is going on with the effects of alcohol,
both on your psyche, your body, your spirit, all of this,
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because we're made of mind, body, and soul, aren't we.
So let's talk about it as a disconnect. Why is
it a disconnect? You think that it's a social connect
because you know you're more loquacious when you drink, and hey, buddy,
how are you doing, and looser and you want to
socialize with people. So in that regard, you might look
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at it as a connection. But what are you really
connecting to and who are you really connecting to? Other
people who are vibrating at a lower wavelength alcohol wavelength,
which is not as let's say, evolved as a brain
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that is free and clear of drugs and is available
to be authentic and available to be vulnerable and available
to feel paid pain and process through pain and grow
through pain. So people who are stuck in panel five
are often very immature because whenever we use defense mechanisms
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to the point where we don't grow, we get stuck
at that phase of development. So, going back to phases
of development, there are all kinds of psychologists who described
the oral phase and the anal phase and all kinds
of phases of maturity. And so what happens is these
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phases get stuck. Okay, so there's no progress. So people
who use alcohol to fill in the hole in the
soul never really learn to regulate their emotions. And we
have a question, so sure, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yes, actually we have two questions, and says my partner
and I only seem to communicate well when drinking together.
Is that a red flag?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I think it is. I'd like you to do an
experiment and even just go one day without it. To me,
what it speaks to is that there are pain points
in the relationship that are way too uncomfortable to address
in a naked, sober form, and so you need a
little bit of that gold liquid or clear liquid to
(15:26):
just kind of get the party started. It does less
than results. So, you know, people say it's the truth serum.
So if you drink, you might say things that are truth. However,
they may not be said kindly, or they may not
be said in a way that is progressive. So if
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you tell somebody you know, the truth is, I've never
been in love with you ever ever, And you know
the truth is I'm not attracted to you. The truth is,
I've been having an affair. I mean, okay, great, you're
telling truths, but irresponsibly. So okay, if you really want
to talk to somebody, you might want to enter into
a real conversation. And so alcohol numbs you to the
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point where you could say the truth, but you're not
really dealing with the mature level of conversation that sobriety
would bring to the table if you were to lay
it out on the table. So sure, I love the
idea of lowerre your responsiveness. Okay, so maybe it'll take
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the edge off, but you know how much of the
edge is taken off and what is actually being said
that's not really being said in an authentic, non inebriated way,
which makes us more vulnerable. So basically, what I'm saying
is that the alcohol takes away a lot of the vulnerability,
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even though it looks like it is allowing us to
loosen up and have loose tongue and say whatever we want.
You know, there's this shield around us that is dotting
down the hurt. And I think it's always better to
deal with things that are hurting authentically. If they hurt
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you could say, you know, this is really hurting me
and feel the impact of that pain. Alcohol will not
let you feel the impact of the pain. Does that
answer the question? Give me a nod? Anything in the
chat room?
Speaker 2 (17:43):
I mean, it makes sense to me. But we'll see
if they respond in the chat room. So we'd love
to hear if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I mean, I get it. I've had conversations after a
few glasses of drinks and sure you know, like, oh yeah,
I've been meaning to tell you. But sometimes you don't
even remember what you said, and you certainly don't say
it in a way that is well thought out oftentimes,
and that could get you in a lot of trouble.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
We have another question, but actually I have a question
for you. Personal note. You know, I grew up in
a very alcoholic family, but I never drink. I never had.
I never been drunk. I never I've had SIPs once,
you know, years ago. I just never liked it. Why
does it make other people that drink feel uncomfortable to
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be around me?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Not the vice versa, because okay, several things they know
in the heart of hearts that they're using a substance
to get through life, and that weakens their position. So
I think it's hard for them to admit the fact
that you're running on optimal fuel, which is life course okay,
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and they're running on a very compromised fuel, which is
the alcohol, and that already puts them in a one
bownsmanship position that you know you can you can do this,
you know you can do life without without alcohol. So
it's kind of like you fly higher, you fly better,
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you fly stronger, and they need this crutch to kind
of limph through their emotions. So that's already going to
make them uncomfortable. The second thing is that there's an
automatic disconnect. So it's sort of like music and cacophony. Okay.
So when you're in music and when you're in harmony
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with somebody, you're you're vibrating right, your tones, your frequency
level is sinking up. When you are talking to somebody
on alcohol or worth talking to an alcoholic who's severely inebriated,
you guys are just not sinking up, and so there's
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no progress. There might be muzak, you know, at best,
you know, muzak is that nice elevator and hey, how
you doing? Yeah? Yeah, like the beer, yeah, like that
other bread you know, like you might have good, superficial
talk and a jolly good time over a few drinks.
It's just that there's nothing of quality necessarily being said
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and discussed.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah, yeah, right, yeah. I've had that many times, where
as soon as they find out I don't drink, they're
just like they don't know what to do, they don't
know what to say, and I'm like, they don't.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I'm struggling with that personally. I have a very dear
friend and he's got some amazing qualities, but I find
that when this person drinks, and I'm telling you, the
first thing the person does when he gets to my
house is go for the alcohol, which he brings, by
the way, because I don't really carry much alcohol in
the house. It's it's an immediate repellent for me. The smell,
(21:10):
the twinkle, the fake twinkle in the eyes, you know,
the glazed look, the the phony smiles, you know, like
what are you smiling about? Like, yeah, smiling, the whoopie,
I'm high, Like that's not a smile, that's not you
know how they talk about fake smiles versus authentic smiles.
And you're really smiling, your eyes are smiling well, and
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alcoholics eyes are not smiling, they're twinkling from me, glazed over.
That's how I see it, and it's not connect at all.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
No, I agree. I agree. And even now here in California,
I used to when I moved here, when I say
I didn't drink or I don't drink, people always thought
I was in recovery. And I was like, no, I
just that's true.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
People would think that because you're right, go ahead, No.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
That that was it. I was just saying, it's it's
I always thought it was funny because I have to
say I've never I don't drink and I've never drunk.
I had I have to add that instead of just saying, no,
I'm not in recovery.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
So and by the way, I know you haven't seen
to anybody really looks well and the skin glows and
he's very healthy, and he goes to the gym a lot,
and you know, right, Tony, you do.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
And it called our body is a temple.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
So yeah. So that's another thing is that I think
spiritually speaking of spiritually, right, you're either spiritual or you're
spiritually induced.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Right, that's why they call it spirits.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Spirit But it's a fake spirit, Okay, spirit from the
dark side. And so that's why when you're connecting, even
if you're meditating, you're not going to meditate when you're
high on alcohol, because you're trying to meditate hate and
connect with the universe or connect with God or higher power.
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Or if you're praying, you're not going to sit there
with a ball of vodka and pray because now you're
really disconnecting from your spirit while you're connecting to your
dark side of your spirit. If that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
It does, It does. And actually, somebody this was one
of the questions that says, if I want to cut
back on drinking, how do I start rebuild rebuilding real
emotional connection, especially with myself.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I love that question. That's such an honorable question. You
know that already says that you want to cut back
on drinking because you're realizing that what I'm talking about
holds truth to you. So that's a beautiful thing. And
so you want to expose your pain rather than cover
up your pain. So Number one that we need to
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make friends with our pain, you know, instead of saying
oh no, no, no, no pain. Like today, I got
a massage. It was very deep, and at first I
was recoiling and oh, don't go there, and you know,
and then I thought, no, no, no, no, go into
the pain, because the more pain I experience on that
massage table, the more release I'll experience off of the
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massage table. So it's the same thing. You want to
make friends with your pain, because your pain is informative.
If somebody hurt your feelings, if you're feeling lonely, if
you're feeling disconnected, you want to feel that so that
you can actually do something about it, more than just
medicate it and block it from your very existence. So
(24:50):
I think if you truly want to do this several ways, Okay,
I used to have a stop smoking clinic called Habit Breakers,
And by the way, I'm going to be bringing back
my book kick It, Stop Smoking Cold Turkey or Gradual
Withdrawal the Choices Yours. I'll be doing a show on
that in the near future, and that'll be available as
(25:12):
a book to you guys. I can't tell you when
because I'm obsessive, compulsive and I just wanted to look right.
Although I do have versions of it. I think it's
on Amazon somewhere, but I just want to make this
really well done. So when you kick a habit, the
first thing you want to do is rid yourself of
(25:35):
the substance. So you don't want to keep it around
because it's too tempting. However, you want to do some
fun substitute. So in your refrigerator you can have things
like Perrier water and lime, or you can have coconut water,
or you can have healthy protein drinks or juices, or
(25:59):
you can just substitute it with plain water and lemon
if you like. And remember that part of drinking is
an oral gratification. So if you put your soda water,
let's say you're Perrier water in a pretty crystal glass,
and you put some mint on top, and you squeeze
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a lemon in it, and if you want to sweeten it,
you could put a little bit of stevia or monk
sugar so that you don't spike your glucose, which I'm
very conscious of and enjoy that. I also know that
there are some non alcoholic beverages out there that they've
been advertising. I'm going to look into that because I
(26:43):
don't want to be drinking something with a lot of
horrible ingredients in it, So you know, be cautious of
those things. But I think number one, just sit with
yourself and sit in the pain. Maybe sit with lots
of water or soda water, Maybe have a conversation, Maybe
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do one day one day without alcohol and see what
that's like. And then if you're running from your feelings,
then close your eyes, take a break, and breathe. And
a good way to breathe is to just inhale for
a few seconds, hold for four or five seconds, and
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then a long exhalation and see what comes up. Because
your mind and your body and your soul are trying
to communicate with you, the alcohol is actually blocking the
communication because the alcohol is fear based. Your emotions are
based on authenticity, love, truth, growth. Alcohol is fear, constriction, repression, disconnect. Okay,
(28:00):
so if you start associating alcohol not only physically with
negative things, but if you start associating alcohol with lack
of psychological growth, lack of spiritual growth, then you can
kind of like take an inventory on what is the
price tag that you pay for drinking alcohol. I read
(28:22):
you some things about cognitive decline and liver dysfunction, and
then you could take a whole inventory about how much
you pay for drinking and any DUIs that you've incurred,
any attorneys that you've had to pay because of your
DUIs anything, any friendships that have been broken because you've
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said too much in a state of disconnect and in
the state of loose tongue. Okay, so all of these
things take a toll on your life. So I think
that people just drink and they don't really consider the
price tag that they're engaging in because it feels so
good that they think that it's so rewarding. And remember,
(29:12):
partial reinforcement is the number one strongest reinforcement on the planet.
So if you have a lot of negative experiences with alcohol,
but you also have some really great highs associated with it,
then you're going to go for the intermittent reinforcement. You're
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going to remember the good. You're going to forget the bad.
Also because you're cognitive declining, so you're probably forgetting everything,
but you're going to especially forget the bad because you're
always searching for the high. So it's that search for
the high that takes precedence over the logical inventory of
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the effects of alcohol. Okay, we have a call. Awesome,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Hello, Hi is that doctor Jody?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
It is? How are you?
Speaker 3 (30:11):
I'm fine, how are you.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I'm good? And what name would you like me to
call you by? And you can make one up if
you want.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Okay, so I'll go with John.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
John. Okay, John, So what brings you to this phone call?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Actually, I'm a big fan of your work. I bought
your book he did in Disconnect long time ago, and
I've been yeah, I've been listening to your videos and
I really really your book was very simple to understand
and just saved my life and saved the people that
(30:51):
I'm also with. You know, my family, my sister, her children,
she's recently divorced. We came from a very dysfunctional family,
not aware of psychological trauma and everything. And so yeah,
you've been a great source of insight and light. I
would say thank.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
You so much. That really really means a lot to me,
because there's nothing that I can think of better than
being an influencer in the sense of positively influencing a
person's life in the next generation. I just can't think
of a better feeling. So I really really appreciate your acknowledging.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Yeah, I mean and yeah, thank you. And also the
simplicity of your work, you know, is not very complicated
at all. It's like, Okay, this is what you have,
this is what you've been through, and this is how
you do it. And it's very very and.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah, yeah, because you know, I went through so much
schooling and so many theories and it made me dizzy.
And then being a traditional psychologist and talking and talking
and talking and years of talking, Oh my god, was
making me a headache. You know, So I thought of
making a near headache and it's probably making my patients
(32:06):
a headache. And I've got to simplify it. So it's
kind of like my E equals MC square psychology formula,
if you will. The mind map, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
And the mind map is just like I said, is
just very straightforward. And you know, I have a degree
in psychology myself, and it's very complicated. If you don't
put things in perspective, if you don't organize it, if
you don't make it very how can I put it,
you know, in a very summarized, in a very perspective way,
(32:39):
it will be very very hard for people to understand
it clearly. And your book and the map, yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I'm sure you experience that. May I ask what kind
of work do you do? What line are you in?
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Actually I am. I work for myself. I do something
called bc are, which is like it's not related to psychology,
but I wanted to work in this field. And you know, yeah,
he helped me a lot. Like I said, if it
wasn't for the inside I've gained, you know, throughout the years,
(33:16):
especially your work and and and you know the knowledge
I've gained, I don't know what i'd been. You know,
I would have been more addicted. I would have been
in trouble. And so now my sister also benefits from
my from my knowledge. So you know, my brother and
everyone around me. I gave her your book as well.
(33:39):
She's unfortunately recently divorced. And because she was living with
a covert narcissist, she gave yeah, yeah, she gave him chances.
And she understood now that you know, he really affected
her life. Six for sixteen years, she didn't know her
problems and and you know, all the psychological problems, all
(34:01):
the psychological manipulation, all the even health issues that she
was dealing with very big.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Time because you're when you're living or married to a narcissist,
especially when you're in a relationship with your a narcissist
and if, especially if you're a people pleaser, they will
suck you dry emotionally, physically, spiritually, and it's just something
(34:28):
that actually makes you physically sick. I can't tell you
how many people complain of backache, headache, and all kinds
of disease because of this vampiring effect, as I like
to call it. So go ahead and tell me why
you're calling, particularly about the alcohol topic.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
Right, Okay, Actually I'm not calling regarding alcohol because I
don't have problem with it and I don't even drink.
But the reason I called is I wanted you advice
on I have my sister's children to loved nephews, you know,
fifteen and thirteen, and the fifteen nephew is very intelligent
(35:13):
for his age. He's been through a lot, and I
don't want him to repeat the generational trauma that would
being we've gone through. Befriended him, I love him, he
loves me. So my question to you, is is it
appropriate now to give him your book because he's very
intelligent and smart.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Definitely, and I've been wanting to get this into the
hands of children. As a matter of fact, in my
original video, the nine panel Mindmap video series, which still
available very inexpensively. I have my grandson in there explaining
the mind map. So it's what I love.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
About I look at that one definitely for.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Sure, for sure okay, and you can contact me and
make sure that you get it. And it's pretty inexpensive
at this point. I really lowered the price point on it.
I don't know what, but it's on my website. And
the thing is that with the mind map. Just to
give you a little hint, Panel one, two three, this
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is how my four year old grandson shrunk it down.
He analyzed paneled one. Grandma, that's the boo boo. Okay,
it's true. It's the boo boo. The boo boo hurts
right and then and then it makes you feel bad
about yourself. Okay. So that's how easy it is for
children to understand. Doesn't matter what age, what race, what religion,
(36:47):
what anything. It just speaks to the human being because
it's visual and easy to understand. So another thing about
about so making it relevant to the topic of alcohol.
One thing we know for sure about children is what
they see you do is what they're going to copy
to do. Okay. So that's why it's important for your nephew.
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Is that your nephew?
Speaker 3 (37:10):
You said, yeah, I did my nephews.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yes, Okay, to learn the mind map, because you know,
at this stage they're exposed to alcohol and all kinds
of drugs, and if they've had any hole in the soul,
which we all have on some level, okay, they it's
easy to be influenced by their friend to fill it
so that if they can understand how to avoid stepping
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into panel number number five defense mechanisms alcohol being one
of them, then you know what you're really doing. And
another day I'm going to talk about smoking too, which
is a very big topic of mind. Whenever you help
somebody to recognize their defense mechanisms and be authentic with themselves,
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you're doing them a big service because you're helping them
deal with their own pain authentically without numbing it. Okay.
And also you're helping to help them to grow. And
that's this is a very big deal to be a
teenager because you don't want to have arrested development.
Speaker 3 (38:19):
Okay, right, yeah, I'll do that because I you know,
I thought maybe I'm going to overwhelm him by all
the psychological knowledge because I want him to be away
from now as you know, you know, this trauma would
affect your life for you know, until you become aware
(38:39):
of it exactly. So I wanted to Yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
If you do get that video, the nine panel mind
Map video, and then I have another one healing from
narcissistic abuse. Maybe you could show it on the screen
the two that's the last one I did, healing from
narcissistic abuse, and then there's another one, all the nine
panel mine Map journey, right, and we're in there. Maybe
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you could start with the first one and then later
on move to healing from narcissistic abuse.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
I will do that. Thank you so much, beautiful for
your work. You're changing lives. I'm calling you from the UK,
you know, and it's been a yeah, it's been a
pleasure to really talk to you, and definitely I'll do that.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
I really appreciate it. Thank you, John, take care, Thank you. Okay,
So this is not just about you, It's about the
next generation. Remember, be the cause of healing human disconnect
so that you can be living the best life. You
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can live better outcomes for your life and pay it
forward to the next generation. So if you drink, if
you smoke, if you do any kinds of substance use.
Your children are way more likely to copycat that behavior
and do it themselves. So you can't sit around and
complain that your son or your daughter or your niece
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or nephew or whoever is smoking and drinking and doing
drugs when you're sitting there with your vodka, your martini
or whiskey or beer or whatever, because it's really the
same thing. I mean, I know the substances are different,
but the intention, okay. And one of the things I
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talk about in my book be the cause healing human disconnect.
First thing I talk about is the consciousness, and you can,
by the way, pick that up from Amazon. If you
want a PDF version, you can pick it off my website.
But consciousness is causal. If you come from the consciousness
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of denial, you're going to get drugs, sex, rock and
roll defense mechanisms, alcohol, of course included. If you come
from the consciousness of truth and authenticity and vulnerability, then
you're going to elevate yourself, even if it feels painful
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to deal with your feelings and to deal with truth
conversations with others. And speaking of truth conversations, I have
something in the book that all of you should read
called the Peaceful Healing Dialogue, and the Peaceful Healing Dialogue,
which is in the book, teaches you how to have
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a dialogue without blowing the bridge, without disconnecting. And unfortunately,
when you're talking dialoguing under the influence of alcohol, then
you're not having really a truth dialogue, even though call
alcohol a truth theoreum. You're just kind of spilling your feelings,
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but you're not really processing them, and you're not really
tuned into being a receptacle of what the other person
on the other end has to say about it or
feel about it. More importantly, so you might think that
you're having an honest conversation, but what's lacking is that
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it's not coming from a causal point. It's coming from
the wound. It's probably coming from your reactions. You know,
if you're speaking about your pain under the influence, you're
probably in a reactive activated form because your childhood wounds
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are triggered. And so that's not where the conversation needs
to stem from. It has to stem from integration, where
you integrate the feelings, you understand your feelings, you're honest
and authentic about your feelings and you're sharing your feelings
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with somebody who's equally as interested and receptive, and then
you can both have an elevated synergistic conversation that will
take you to another level of empathy connection, raising each
other up mentally, spiritually, psychologically. Okay, does that make sense?
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One is evolution, So let's jump to different panel. You know,
let's go to panel number six. Let's not skip over
that one. So panel number six is when alcohol and
you break down. Okay, you end up at a facility,
or you know, worse, you're you're in an accident because
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of alcohol related accident, your marriage breaks up over it,
or friendships are breaking down because of this. And sometimes
when people break down, they use it as an opportunity
or they're forced, at least at the beginning to break through. Okay,
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So breakdown can be a breakthrough if you make it so.
So listen to that again. If you make it so,
if you're just going to use it as an excuse
to go lower and lower, you'll end up in the gutter.
But if you make it an excuse or reason to
elevate and be done with it. In other words, the
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old system has to collapse for a new one. To
be built up. And so let's move to panel number
seven so we could see what's possible. So panel seven,
if two people, let's say the blue person and the
yellow person are talking and there's there's no alcohol, there's
no barrier between them, there is light growth, progress, understanding, connection, authenticity, synergy. Okay,
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that's what's possible. But if the two people are inebriated,
or one is inebriated and the other one sober, they're
on different wavelengths. There's no truth, there's no connection, there's
no authenticity, there's no real vulnerability and growth. Okay, see
the difference. So I think it's important that people who
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don't drink hang around people who don't drink. It's just
healthier that way. So the whole idea is to work
through your defense mechanisms so that you can be vulnerable
and protective at the same time. I call it a
semi permeable membrane. Going back to panel five. You don't
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want to close everybody out. You don't want to open
up to everybody and be boundaryless. You want to be
a semi permeable membrane, letting in the good and keeping
out the bad. Because that's how we stay balanced, right,
like a cell in the human body, we let in
the good stuff, we keep out the bad stuff. And
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so through this process we can we can paradigm shift
and into panel number seven eight nine. So going back
to seven, now you are seeing the light, you're reconnected
with it. You're looking for synergistic relationships, so that the
healing process right. So that is a synergistic relationship. That's
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the only thing that I would be interested in having
in my lifetime. People who add to me and I
add to them one plus one is greater than two
me and another person enhances their life or that other
person also hances enhances my life. And so that is
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what we want to bring to the world, is we
want to enhance each other and eventually we want to
push each other up the evolutionary ladder, which is panel
number eight. Metaphorically speaking, So if you look at panel
number eight, you've now gone through the trials and tribulations
of dealing with your emotions, the ugly ones included. Now
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you're maturing, you have more mental and physical and spiritual health,
and now you want to climb and evolve, and you
want to do it with like minded people. So you're
pushing yourself up the evolutionary ladder, and each one is
helping and being helped. So it's a process of teamwork,
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and you could see that instead of chaos, there's clarity.
The water is a metaphor for clarity and health and
a clean slate and a fresh start. And so through
this evolutionary process, which obviously doesn't include an inebriated state,
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because then you might fall off the ladder. You know,
physically and proverbially speaking, you can't climb very well when
you're drunk, and so you want to just keep rising
and rising and rising in health. So one of the
things I say in my book be the cause healing
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human disconnect is that health begets health. Any other questions
in the chat room.
Speaker 2 (48:49):
There is one question. I mean, it kind of goes
back a lot, many many, many, many many generations, but
it says, why is drinking so normalize in our culture
even though it's often leads to emotional distance and relationships.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
Well, I mean, the first thought that flashed into my
mind was if you refer to the Bible, you see
it ceremonially incorporated into different rituals, and you know, and
so on the grapes of You know, I guess on
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some level it could be used in a celebratory manner,
you know, you drink too good health, or at a
wedding you toast the bride in the groom. Yeah, I
mean in very small moderation, and I'm talking about very small.
It might have a small place except that when it
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becomes this defense mechanism, and you'll know it because you
will literally stop growing psychologically, you just will stop growing,
and you will keep leaning on it, like you know,
you get more and more broken, and it's sort of
like the broken leaning on a broken system. But I
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think it's got a long history culturally. Different cultures use
alcohol in different ways. But you know, I've always said,
if you have a choice between what's culturally correct and
what is correct for your mental, spiritual, and emotional well being,
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I will choose that. I've always been interested in creating
systems that work for the human race, not for one
culture or another. That's why I created the mind Map.
Originally it was called Join the Human Race Healing Global Disconnect,
and then I went micro on it because I saw
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that the system was just us relevant to healing human disconnect.
And it's hard to heal global disconnect. When you don't
heal human disconnect, it's hard to get countries to agree
and create synergy when we can't even have synergy with
ourselves or our significant others. So that's why I went
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from micro to macro. But I'm still very passionate about
creating a humane race with principles of the mind map
that going to the direction of healing and point in
the direction of synergy. Global synergy. By the way, I'm
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playing a big game of life, almost seems impossible these days,
doesn't it. You know, how can people of various cultures
get it together and get along? It's just that on
a sole level, we are one, and on a sole level,
we desire, above and beyond anything else, we desire to
(52:07):
connect with each other. That's how we're built. And so
I want to go back to that raw place where
all human beings have in common, the desire to connect,
the desire to create synergy. And I still have that
dream and it's strong that we will find a way
to be of one even though we're different, which is beautiful,
(52:30):
but we'll find a way to synergize the differences so
that we add to each other, whether we're different religions, cultures, sexes,
anything that who we're being is going to add to
who other people are being. And that really is the
most profound game that I know of, And it's beyond
(52:52):
politics as I see it. Yeah, you know, I know
politics are involved, but you know, imagine creating joining the
human race, Okay, saying goodbye to the fractions and the
fallout material and just creating this third entity called the
humane race and becoming a member of that. So that's
(53:16):
where my head is at, That's where my heart has
always been, and I hope that all of you can
hear the message, especially at this particular time and during
times of stress like we're experiencing globally, we do want
to blank it out and drink it off and whatever
defense mechanism that we've got to feel the pain in
(53:40):
our heart to awaken our heart to the deep desire
that we all have to be at one with each other.
And I know it's possible to find commonality and to
be to be consciously concentrated with intention on a third entity.
(54:01):
So if you go to my website, Healing globaldisconnect dot com,
maybe you can go there, Tony and just read it
off so people can understand my message.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
So it's global.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
Global Disconnect dot com. Think you go ahead and read that.
If you don't.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
Want dot com. Let me look here.
Speaker 1 (54:26):
Healing Global disconnect dot com and you'll see there we
as a human race. Let me see if I can
pull it up. Let me global dis time to time.
(54:50):
I think I should read it to everybody. Okay, here
it is. It looks like that.
Speaker 4 (54:57):
Okay, all right, So here it is as a human
race under the caption be the cause.
Speaker 1 (55:08):
Okay, As a human race, we have become fragmented into nations, religions,
social classes, politics, and races and more. The fragmentation has
resulted in clash and fallout in the form of human atrocities.
Although we have been able to sort to unlimited heights
(55:31):
in many areas of human endeavor, we have yet to
accomplish the final frontier, and the most important frontier, to
come together as a united humanity. So I'll leave you
with that. Put that in your consciousness, your intention. Remember
a humane race. Before you are black, white, whatever religion,
(55:55):
whatever sex, whatever politics. Number one, you're a human being.
So let's begin, at least mentally and intentionally to join
the human race, and you can only join the human
race if you act humanly, you know, if you're not
acting humanly, can't be you know. I'm not giving up
the membership. Okay, so thank you very much. Any other
(56:19):
comments in the chat room or any other questions.
Speaker 2 (56:22):
I think that's it for tonight. What's that I said?
I think that's all for the night.
Speaker 1 (56:28):
Okay, thank you everyone for joining in. Good night wat
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