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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Speaker 2 (00:48):
Okay, you are live Dtor Judy welcome.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Okay, thank you so much, and thank you audience for
very with the tech support.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
And we are I believe, yes we are.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Okay. So what the freud is permeability because it can
be your superpower and it also may not be your
superpower at times. So I'm going to dive right into
this and so let's talk about permeability and what I
mean by that. If you have not already read my
book Be the Cause Healing Human Disconnect, please go ahead

(01:26):
and download a free copy of it by requesting it
or you can order it off of Amazon dot com.
And in panel number five, I'll get through the mindmap
in a minute, but just for a reference permeability there
it is are kind of like cells in the body. Okay.
So this, by my map is a metaphor right now,

(01:48):
I'm using it as a metaphor for you and your
permeability to soak people in energies, in anything, in both
the good and the bad. Now, if you are permeable
and you let in a lot of stuff, a few
things could happen. Number one, if you let in the
wrong people, the wrong energies, the wrong food, the wrong toxins,

(02:13):
anything of that matter, it can poison you, right, so
you don't want to do that. On the other hand,
if you're permeable to good stuff, that you could let
in the light and create what I love the most
of all, which is synergy. A one plus one is
greater than two phenomenon which exists in panel number seven.

(02:37):
And by the way, if you don't know the mind map,
don't worry about it. I'm going to go over it.
So this is all going to make sense to you
in a little bit. But in the meantime, I want
you to think about this panel seven. One plus one
is greater than two. How do you get synergy? You
have to be somewhat permeable, because if you're not, then

(02:58):
you're not going to expose your light, you're not going
to expose other people's light, and you're definitely not going
to expose any light to the world. So permeable is important. Now, well,
why can it be your superpower? Because even if you're permeable,
let's say, to the wrong people, it can be of

(03:20):
value to you because it's sort of like tasting food. Okay,
how do you know you like it? How do you
know it's good for you. Well, hopefully you don't eat
a whole plate of it and then get sick and
throw up. Maybe you taste a little bit of it
and see how it agrees with your stomach, how it
agrees with your system. Same thing with quote tasting people. Okay,

(03:44):
And I don't mean that in a carnivorous way or
cannibalistic way, although I guess it can be that too
in some cultures. What I mean by it is that
we want to know if somebody is good for us.
One of the things that inspired this show is that
I saw a YouTube video and somebody, and I wish

(04:07):
I can give him credit, said how do you know
somebody's good for you? And one sure fireway to tell
is how that person affects your nervous system. So if
you allow yourself to be permeable to the person and
then you get sick and your muscles get tied and
your stomach gets upset and you walk away feeling less

(04:30):
than then you know that you allowed something in someone
in that's not good for you. But you couldn't have
known that unless you were permeable. Now, the trick to
all of this, and the superpower part of it is
that we need to experience things in order to know

(04:52):
if it's going to work or not, or if it's
going to be a plus one or a minus one.
So permeability as a superpower means simply let a little
bit of it in taste it. See how the energy is,
See how the configuration between you and another person, as
an example, work together. Is it synergistic? Is it like

(05:15):
a vampire effect and you feel drained and used? Is
it sort of like a recipe for a disaster where
you're going to be defrauded eventually because they're setting you
up to to be taken advantage of, but you don't
know until you sample the goods. Okay, so let's talk

(05:39):
a little bit about the mind map and how permeability
affects people and why some people are what I call permeable,
some people are non permeable, and what I call semi permeable,
which is a good place to be because it's a
question of letting in the good and keeping out the bad,

(06:01):
meaning being selective. So let's go through the mind map
and then we'll get to permeability as we go down
the yellow brick road of the mind maps. So if
you look at panel number one, you will see the
light in the darkness. So again my mind map is
very metaphorical in that it points to the two aspects

(06:23):
of us. We've got our light, which is the best
of our best, and then we have our darkness, which
oftentimes are the bruises of childhood wounds, bruises like neglect,
bruises like verbal abuse, physical abuse, sexual abuse, emotional physical neglect,

(06:47):
narcissistic parents, being controlling or being controlled by parents. So
those are the wounds that shadow us, and then there
are lots more. There's obviously wounds that affect us through
accidents and poor health and life circumstances. So in other words,
life beats us up, and then our challenge is to

(07:11):
overcome our obstacles and let in the light. So that's
panel one. So what does that have to do with permeability.
You'll see as we go down the yellow brick road
of the mind map. So if we're too bruised, then
we crack up. So look at panel number two and
you can see the metaphor of the broken glass. So

(07:33):
panel two represents our reactions to the wound, and these
reactions are primarily in our amigdala, which is our primitive brain,
our fight, flight, freeze and fond system. So when we
are vulnerable, which we are as babies, we don't know

(07:55):
how to self regulate. And so if we don't have
parents that do this and give us the scheduling and
the comfort and the eye to eye and skin to
skin and ideally breastfeeding and ideally parents who really know
how to emotionally nourish us, if we don't get that,

(08:17):
then we become quickly dysregulated as infants. And if this
continues to go on, we literally crack up. So that's
panel two, is that we get broken if we are
not parented well or if the world is just too
harsh on us, then we cannot withstand it. So then

(08:40):
we go into the fight mode, which we can't as infants.
We can go into the flight mode, which we can't
because we can't flee, we can't fight back. We can
fawn and we can freeze. So I guess fawning and
freezing and shutting down all the options and what happens

(09:00):
through the course of life is that all of our
childhood wounds and also the good stuff gets encoded. So
if you look at panel number three, this is the
first level encoding that we experience. And these encodes, as
I like to call them, come from childhood wounds and
how we reacted and how we were soothed or not,

(09:24):
and then they encode in us. Panel three, if you
could put that one up, and this is the result
of part one system gone wrong? Do you have a
picture of panel three? There are you? There is the
screen frozen? Okay, I have no idea what's happening. But

(09:47):
panel three looks like this. I'll just hold it up
to Oh there it is, Thank you so much. So
Panel three is like a DNA strand encoded and so
if you look at it as a family system, we
can relate to one strand, the DNA is coming from

(10:07):
your father. The other one is coming from your mother
or whoever are your primary caregivers, and they're supposed to
create a structure upon which we wind. Are we okay?
On the tech side of things.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Hello, sorry, I didn't realize I pushed the wrong button. Yes,
I'm here, okay.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
So if you could look at panel number three, you
could see that it's a that's panel four that comes
after panel three. So look at panel three and you
could see all of the toxicity in the background, and
if you look carefully, you could see little people hanging
around and sitting around and climbing around, and they're not

(10:53):
quite evolving because the system doesn't support them to be
the best their best. And that's why this is a
metaphor for more darkness and a kind of a devolution,
the beginning of a devolution, if you will, encoding things

(11:15):
that become core beliefs within us, core beliefs like we're
not good enough, we're not smart enough, we're not powerful enough,
and those kinds of core beliefs that actually get triggered
by life and then end us in panel number or chaos. Okay,
so when we're in chaos, there is no compass, no north,

(11:40):
southeast or west. The people are just flying off and
out of space. There's a lot of toxicity, there's no structure.
It's kind of like anarchy chaos, okay, a lot of
what we're seeing in the world today, unfortunately. So what
happens when we're in chaos is we get more dysregulated.
We don't know what to do, and so we end

(12:03):
up defending ourselves. And now we're in panel five, which
is why I wanted to go through this. So that
you can understand permeability, semi permeability, and non permeability. So
what is panel five again? A metaphor or permeable cells,

(12:26):
non permeable cells, semi permeable cells. So let me ask
you guys a question. What happens to a cell if
it's too permeable? Anybody want to put that in the
chat room? I'm kind of pop quizzing you today. What
would you say if you're too permeable, if you just
let anybody and everyone in, if you just soak in

(12:50):
all of it, what happens? Anybody want to put an
answer in the chat room there?

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Someone says would lose its ability to maintain its internal something.
I can't read it, but.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
That's right. It would lose its ability to maintain its
internal boundaries structure. That's exactly correct. Okay, so that's not good.
But I did say that it is a superpower. So
sometimes you've got to open up in order to taste
that energy field and see if it's right for you. Now,
what happens if you're totally non permeable. So we talked

(13:32):
about permeability. It's too loose, Okay, it can just let
in too much of the bad. What about the non
permeable What if you don't let anybody in. What if
you're a hermit and you don't trust people and you're
a bit on the paranoid side, and you decide that
the human race is not worth I'm really engaging with,

(13:54):
and you isolate yourself, then what happens? Anybody want to
put an answer in the chat room? If you close
the doors, if you're non permeable, then what anyone want
to guess at that one?

Speaker 2 (14:10):
So far nobody's done. But they also could call in
at three two three five, two four two five nine
to let doctor Judy know via phone. But yes, uh,
so far nobody wants to take a stab at that one.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Okay, Well the first one was correct, okay, And this
is kind of behind the scenes, anonymous, and who cares
if you get it right?

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Right?

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Well, you know, on a journey here together. But as
you can intuitively tell, if you're non permeable, you put
too thick a wall between you and other people and
there's no light. Okay, so you're in the darkness and
you're kind of steeped in your own squat, and there's

(14:52):
also no growth. Both non permeable and permeable membranes do
not allow for synergy because if you're too permeable, you
can be overtaken by the wrong person, which is not synergistic.
And if you're non permeable, you don't let anybody play
a better game of life with you and let them

(15:14):
in so that they can deposit something good into your life.
Because a lot of people have been too permeable and
so therefore they react by becoming non permeable. So the
way that we function best is by becoming Usually we

(15:37):
want to be semi permeable, meaning we want to be
open to people, but not too open to people and
definitely not too close to people, because it's only through
being semi permeable that we create synergy and make new
friends and allow ourselves the pleasure of letting in new ideas,

(16:01):
new feelings, new experiences, and that's where we want to
be in life. We don't want to close ourselves off
from the light. So when we are not able to
be semi permeable, then what ends up happening is we

(16:22):
either break down. Okay, So what happens if we're in
a psychological prison of non permeability we end up imploding, Okay,
so let's look at panel number six per minute. So yeah,
there it is panel number six. So you don't let
anybody in. There's no oxygen getting into your system of life,

(16:48):
and so as a consequence of that, you implode within yourself.
So that is where you start breaking down. Implosion is
an example of that. Might be aggression turned inwards. So
when you're angry, when you're unexpressed, when you don't have

(17:08):
anybody to let steam off with, then you end up imploding.
So that's not good. And the opposite is exploding. So
if you let too much in and you get too
permeated by the wrong people, then you might end up exploding.

(17:28):
So what the therapeutic antidote to that would be is
instead of imploding or exploding, you want to be unloading
therapeutically or with a great friend or a spouse or
somebody that you trust, so that you don't build it
up or you don't project your anger on other people.

(17:50):
You know, like the kick the dog phenomenon. You come
home from work, you're angry, you have no where to
put that energy, and so you project it all over
your significant other, your dog, or anybody else. So you
don't want that kind of breakdown to happen. So let's
go back to the superpower part of it. Some people

(18:13):
think that, oh I'm too sensitive, Oh I'm too much
of a sucker. Well that may be the case if
you're too permeable, but you've got to let some of
it in in order to know. You can't know unless
you open the door at least a little bit. And

(18:35):
that's why it's a superpower. So let me talk about
being a psychologist and why my permeability is a superpower
Because in therapy, people will project all kinds of feelings
upon me, and my job is too, so to speak,
taste those feelings or in other words, experience those feelings

(18:58):
so that I get a sense of that persons in
our world. So for me, permeability means information, very valuable
psychological information about their state of being, their their pain,
their level of ability to withstand tolerate pain. I think

(19:21):
we have a question.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
We do we do? And uh, I think this is
a great question. It says, how does permeability show up
in people like with anxiety, PTSD and codependency. And then
they have as part two and how can it be
transformed into empowerment rather than enmeshment.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Okay, that's a great question. Let's go one at a time. Okay,
So how can how can this permeability affect people with.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Anxiety, anxiety, PTSD, and codependency.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Okay, So with anxiety, that simply means that, let's go
back to the perhaps you got disregulated early on in
childhood because you had some sort of an anxious attachment
with a parent where they didn't regulate you, meaning soothe you,
and so you didn't have the developmental privilege, so to speak,

(20:21):
of having somebody quote your feelings and make a kind
of a semi permeable wall for you to exist within.
And now you don't have that, you don't have that protection,
and so anything comes in. And when anything comes in,

(20:43):
you go to panel two, which is the amygdala, which
is the dysregulation, and then you become too permeable and
you don't have the ability to settle down to self soothe,
so that you're more likely to fall into anxiety because

(21:04):
you're permeated. Okay, Now the second one was PTSD, Yes, yes, correct, Okay,
So with PTSD that implies that something really traumatic happened
to you, so complex PTSD is a childhood wounding of

(21:25):
PTSD where it is chronic and it is developmentally steeped
in your years of progression through life. So it might
be that you've been neglected too long or name called
too much, or physically abused or sexually abused or controlled,

(21:47):
or you have unempathic parents. So in that case, it's very,
very difficult again to develop those boundaries. Right. So with PTSD,
it's a little different than complex PTSD because in PTSD,
something happens, something traumatic, you get hit by a car,

(22:08):
god forbid, or something traumatic happens in your life, and
now you have flashbacks, and so the veil of protection
has literally been penetrated way too far, do you see that,
So that membrane that's supposed to protect you is now popped,

(22:32):
so it's no longer a protective wall, and you don't
have the ability to feel that you're safe behind that
protective shield. And so when you're not safe, then you
feel vulnerable to all the elements of the world, and
you get flashbacks and you're triggered by sounds or voices,

(22:54):
or you might have nightmares or symptoms of extreme anxiety
and so on, and so that's just an extreme part
of it.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
And what was part three of that codependency?

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Codependency? Okay, so let's say that you're using codependency as
a defense mechanism to regulate you. So now what you're
doing is you're pulling another person in and instead of
creating light, which is when you have inture dependency, where

(23:29):
both of you benefit from each other. Codependency is when
let's say one person is very weak and they latch
on to another person for that strength, and they never
really develop their own strength, and the other person is
sort of pulled down with it, or maybe gets their

(23:51):
jollys out of being in power and control over the
codependent one, as is in the case of narcissistic abuse.
That doesn't carry any light with it either. So codependency
is where you are so weak and permeated that you
need somebody to bolster you and be a sort of

(24:14):
a supply of emotional grounding for you. Okay, does that
make sense? I hope to the person who asks the question.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
You can let us know in the chat room if
that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yeah, let me know. Okay, So hopefully I'm making the
distinction between the three. And then what was the other part.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Of the question, How can it be transformed into empowerment
rather than enmeshment.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Okay, so whenever we're dysfunctioning in life, we have to
step back and we have to take responsibility of the
fact that there's a system operating that's gone And the
only way I know how to empower ourselves through a
system gone wrong is let's go back to being vulnerable

(25:08):
and permeable. So now we've got to be vulnerable and
permeable to ourselves and say, I'm not feeling well, I'm
not really doing that. Well, what's going on here? Why
am I in a codependent relationship? Why am I shutting down?
Why am I letting a bunch of horrible people through
the gate and letting them infiltrate into my life? This

(25:32):
is not good. So this is where you have to
go back to your childhood wounds and see who messed
with your membrane and created it to be too hard
or too soft or maybe just right. And then as
you go through your childhood wounds and you are able

(25:52):
to identify them, then through the process of therapy, you
can start identifying them as opposed to identifying with them.
And that's what the mind map therapy is all about,
is to separate you being embroiled in reactionary mode or

(26:13):
shut down mode or whatever mode, and understand that you
are at the effect a part one of your life,
meaning that you didn't plan on it. But now you've
got to self correct meaning number one, self reflect, then
self correct, and then be the cause of a different outcome.

(26:34):
And only through consciousness and being conscious can you create
a new blueprint. So that means that you have to
go through panels one, two, three, four, five, six and
tear down the old system and then rebuild something new,
as you can see in panel number seven, eight nine.

(26:57):
So that's why the mind map is an encode, decode
and recode process. And now we're down on the bottom
here of recoding, and so recoding means that we are recalibrating.
So in panel number seven, we're recalibrating our permeability. So

(27:18):
you could see that the bubbles are coming together and
they're syncing up, and they they're creating something that's only
possible through being at least semili permeable, okay, and letting
other people in the right people, not the code dependent one,
not the narcissistic one, not the avoidant one, because that's

(27:42):
not going to create any lights. So the best way
to achieve Panel seven is two healthy people coming together
to make a better WI. So it's one healthy person
and another healthy person, both of who worked on themselves
and then creating something of the light. Yes, another question,

(28:08):
go ahead.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yes, this person says, I struggle with boundaries. How can
they learn to remain open without absorbing absorbing everyone else's
emotions or energies when it comes to permit.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Thank you for the question. I wish you would call
in so we could see what your injury was. So,
if you're struggling with boundaries, then somebody either penetrated your
boundaries by being too intrusive verbally, physically, sexually in some way.
And as children, remember we're vulnerable. We need our parents

(28:44):
to protect us, we need somebody to protect us. So
we've got to recalibrate those boundaries by understanding who done it,
what happened, why the walls are not fortifying us, and
what exactly that injury is. And then we have to
therapeutically work through the anger, the violation, the sadness, the

(29:10):
grief that comes with it. And that's the therapy that
I'm talking about. You can't just be resetting your boundaries
without understanding who done it and who hurt you and
why you're violating. So, but if you're struggling with boundaries,
that that can be used as a superpower, and I'll
tell you how is simply by knowing that something's off here.

(29:33):
So now you've tasted, so to speak, you've let somebody in,
maybe that you shouldn't have let in, and so now
you can see something's off here. And so either it's
off with the person that you let in, that's likely,
and maybe the person you let in is in because

(29:54):
there's something off with you. In other words, you don't
know how to properly just scriminate the good from the bad.
And so that's what you have to look at. And
that's why you have to go back to the violators
in your life. And they're usually, unfortunately Mommy dearest and
Daddy dearest are primary caregiver related and even if they

(30:18):
couldn't help it, like there was something going on in
their lives where they couldn't be the best parent in
the world, nature doesn't care. Why. The point is that
you're left feeling vulnerable. So if you don't heal up
that vulnerability, you're going to continue to let people through
the gates and then infiltrate you and overflood you, overwhelm you,

(30:46):
and eventually poison you. Okay, So you can use it
as a superpower by knowing that something's wrong and then
going on a journey to fix something wrong. Because look,
if you're living in a home and you've got a
gate around you or a fence around you or whatever,

(31:09):
or a brick wall and the enemies coming through, then you
didn't do a very good job fortifying your environment. On
the other hand, if you just have no gates and
no nothing, then maybe you're two subject to just anybody

(31:30):
passing through. So I want you to use it more
as a metaphor than an actual gate or wall or
some object that I'm describing, and to understand that we
all need discernment. So this is all about being psychologically
able to discern who should be in and should be out,

(31:53):
and who you should park in a kind of a
neutral zone until you know better. So you're a new person,
you don't just lend the money and let them live
free rent in your house and treat them for everything
that they desire. That would be a horrible situation. What
you do is you get to know them, you talk

(32:15):
to them, you see if they're trustworthy, you see who
their friends are. You know, the old adage, birds of
a feather flock together, so you want to see if
they're responsible, if they keep their word, if they're contributing
something to your life. And those are the people, at
least in my case, that I'm interested in getting to

(32:36):
know and nurture and foster for friendship, because it is
rare to meet somebody that you feel synergy with, and
when you do, you've got to put in the effort
and your own light and see what comes of it.

(32:57):
Because that's where miracles are, is the panel number seven.
If you will go back to that, the miracle is
in trusting that there are people out there that you
can let in and they're not going to vampire you.
They're not going to rob you right, they're not going
to drag you down, they're not going to make you sick,

(33:19):
they're not going to sap you of your energy, make
you sick, basically, And maybe there's creativity between you and
that other person. Maybe there is support, maybe there is fun,
maybe there is health, there's discovery, there's all kinds of

(33:40):
things that happen in the you know, it's kind of
like a then diagram I think for math, right, the
overlapping circles. There's something magical that comes about when two
people bring their energies together. It's like a third entity
will And that's what we are meant to do, is

(34:03):
to interconnect with people so that we can bring more
of ourselves through the interaction with somebody who's also striving
to be of the light. So if your permeable membrane
is not functioning really well, then you can see that

(34:25):
panel seven, instead of creating light, is going to vampire you,
or one is going to suck the other dry or
overshadow the other, and those are not great relationships. So
I hope that answers your question.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
It did, and somebody did follow up and says, can
these emotional permeability actually enhance relationships rather than damage them?

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yes? Yes, yes, But if you're emotionally perm to a narcissist, no, no, no,
because what you're gonna find is you're going to be
sucked dry, okay, Or if you yourself are codependent, you're
gonna suck the energy drive somebody else. Or if you
just don't have the ability to really gatekeep your boundaries,

(35:22):
then you might attract anybody and anything and then taint
your other relationships with people who are poisonous in general.
You know, haven't you ever had that happen? You're in
a nice friendship circle and then you meet somebody in
that friend sort of poisons the apple cards, so to speak.

(35:45):
So you don't want to bring that into an environment
where you're doing well and your friends are doing well,
or you're in a family and your family's doing well.
You don't want to bring toxicity into a nice situation.
That's why I'm talking about it. It's so important discernment,
boundary discernment and permeability as a superpower, not to open

(36:09):
up to anybody and everybody, but just to be able
to say, Okay, I'm going to let my gut, Okay,
my instincts taste what it's like being around the person.
And I was just having a discussion with a new
friend today and we were talking about how people affect
us and infect us and infiltrate us, and we don't

(36:32):
have the time or energy to tolerate that, because you know,
there are only so much hours in a day and
only so much energy we can get people and we
certainly don't want to commingle our energy with somebody that's
not going to nourish us. So that's why it's so
important to have those boundaries. Any other questions in the

(36:56):
chat room.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
And I think somebody wants to they can't They said
they can't really afford therapy, or do you have any
some therapeutic practices that they could do at home?

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Totally totally. Look, you could get the be the Cause
Healing Human Disconnect pdf for free. It's my system. You
can order it off of Amazon if you want a
soft paperback copy of it, which is always nice because
you can make notes. You can buy the Healing from

(37:33):
Narcissistic Abuse video that's online and you can also buy
a huge discount. My first video that I created called
the nine panel mind Map System, so maybe you could
put them both up. One is more generic. The first
video I produced was back in oh it must have

(37:53):
been about thirteen years ago, and my grandson is in
that video because he down the mind map from the
point of view of a child. I think he's up
there on some Facebook posts right now as we speak.
And the other one is specific toward healing from narcissistic abuse.
So if you could show the cover of that video.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
What's the name of that one? Is up the Healing.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Healing from Narcissistic Here we go. Yeah, you could purchase
that one and stop paying a bunch of money for therapy.
And then if you need a little assistance, you can
call the Psychological Healing Center and I can get you
somebody to help you through areas that you are struggling with. Okay.
And the other one is the nine panel mind Map

(38:40):
System to Healing, which I created about thirteen years ago.
I don't know if you have the cover of that one.
They both come with journals and it's a do it
yourself and it's so inexpensive compared to therapy. And then again,
you can regulate the amount of therapy that you you

(39:01):
want to pay for by letting us know what your
budget is for one, and then minimizing therapy by only
consulting with a therapist on an as needed basis, or
if you want, you can do the whole process with
me or somebody on the staff. And that's obviously the

(39:24):
most effective way because we can really break it down
and get into the childhood wounds and get into all
of the panels in detail the details of your life.
So that would be you know, sort of like the
Rolls Roy Excursion of Healing, and then the other would
be just pay as you go as you need. And

(39:47):
then the other free one is the PDF of the book,
and then the other one very inexpensive, would be the
Amazon paperback and the old video, the nine paneled mind
Map Journey to Healing.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Well, so can I ask you this, doctor Judy. I
know we haven't talked about this in a while, but
the new mind Map your Future, how does that entwine
with what you're talking about today?

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Thank you? Yeah, we haven't talked about it, because remember,
my map your future is for people who've done all
the work, Their boundaries are good, their negative core beliefs
have been more or less healed over. And then this
is kind of like once you're healed from your childhood wounds,

(40:37):
now you can mind map your future. Okay, So now
you're not tripping all over yourself, and now you can
get into creating a better pathway for future because you
have the psychological tools that you've learned in panels one

(40:57):
through nine in part one. So I always tell people,
don't do mind map your future until you've done healing
from childhood wounds, because then what's going to happen is
every time you try to mind map your future, you're
going to trip up on your childhood wounds. Your boundaries
are going to crumble, and you know you're not going

(41:18):
to get very far if you're not living in a
more or less healed state. And I say more or
less because we're always going to be healing for the
rest of our lives, so there's no such thing as
perfect healing. But you know you can go a long way.
So I say, if you really want to rock and
roll ahead into the future, as they say you're you

(41:46):
can't go into your future until you're you've healed your past.
And there's always going to be that shadow that follows
you if you're unhealed and sabotages your future. So yes,
they go hand in hand, but we've got to do
them in the right order. For those of you who

(42:08):
have done the mind map work, and you feel like
you have a pretty good handle on childhood wounds and
your reactions and core beliefs and your defense mechanisms, and
you've let out a lot of the poison from the
entries of the past, and you feel like you're in
pretty good shape for it, call me and we will

(42:28):
start the mind map your future work. So it's sort
of like, you know, you can't go to college until
you've graduated from high school, and so the high school
would be doing the work okay, and then the college
would be let's fly to the next level. That's how

(42:48):
I see it. And you know, too often people think
that they could bypass level one and they can't. You know,
you can't go into a course and think that you're
going to manifest your future if you're always being triggered
by your past. And that's not fair to you because

(43:09):
now you're thinking you're not doing it right, and you're
not doing it right because you've got a saboteur trying
to steal your light and break you down and bring
you into chaos defenses and ultimately really shake you down
into a bigger breakdown. So you don't want that domino

(43:31):
of that. You would rather go through the process of
healing and then out of strength mind map your future.
Does that make sense to everybody?

Speaker 2 (43:42):
I hope makes sense to me.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
It makes sense to you. Yeah, think about it, Tony.
I mean, how would you like to build a house
with no foundation. Now like you don't write, you don't
know what material to use. You haven't taken the time
to really get to know this oil and elements of
the climate and your style of life and so on.

(44:08):
And you know, there are a lot of things to
think through before you build a future for yourself. That's
why people plan things think about that. So my map
number one is for taking down the old. Okay, remember
looking to see what we en coded so that we

(44:30):
can decode it. And actually in the mindmap process, we're
doing a little bit of future because panel number seven
eight nine speaks to the future because by panel number
seven you have now built proper boundaries. You now have
the ability to be a better version of yourself, which

(44:54):
brings me to be the paradigm shift, the ability to
be a better me so that you can combine with
better other mes to form better wheeze. And so in
panel number seven, eight nine, that's sort of like leading
you into the future. And the healing panel, which is

(45:14):
panel number eight you could see, is a better encoding
than panel three. You see, it's steel, it's strong. People
are climbing the ladder, they're holding hands, they're helping each
other evolve, and that's the kind of relationship you want
to or relationships you want to engage with people who
are going to help you up the ladder, or people

(45:38):
you trust will be able to either way. You help them,
they help you, they reach for you, you reach for them.
So it's a constant evolution as opposed to a devolution.
And so it's really really important that you start building

(45:59):
a code that doesn't get torn down by negative core
beliefs that are based on lies. They don't get torn
down by triggers. And even if they do, then you
recognize them and rebuild them quickly. And that's the only
way to create unity, unity within the self, which then

(46:24):
creates unity on the planet. And that's something that I
want to talk a little bit more about. And you know,
what's the pathway to healing? What's the pathway to unity?
Some people have their isms that they rely on for pathways,
and if it gets you there, great, But you want to,

(46:45):
you know, so to speak, get in the right car
to get you where you want to go. So you
want to get with the right process, the right therapists,
the right environment, the right people surrounding you. These things
are very very important because everything around us influences us,
and if we're not around the right influence, we can

(47:07):
If we're not, especially if we're too permeable, we could
be subject to being torn down by outer forces, and
we definitely don't want to do that. So any other
questions in the chat room.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
No question, just more you know, just talking amongst themselves.
But yeah, no, I think this was a good show
on so you don't have to always look at it
as a negative.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Yeah, And when you're in a place where you can
use your permeability to understand people and see how they
feel on a gut level, that's what I call intuition.
You've got to let a little piece of the person in.
As a psychologist, I always do just because I want

(47:58):
to know where they're at and what they feel like
in the room. And then I can no more, both
clinically and intuitively what is going on with them. And
of course the more uncomfortable I feel in the room
with them, the more I know that there is a
lot of childhood wounding. There, a lot of crap lengths

(48:19):
of perception. There a lot of negative core beliefs and
projections that are going on. And that's how I can
quote taste the psycho pathology in the room, and that
helps me to work with it. In general. You know,
unless you're a psychologist or person that he is doing

(48:43):
some level of healing. You don't want to constantly be
around people who are going to create an atmosphere of
psychopathology around you because you want to live. You want
friendships that are nourishing, You want a job that nourishes you.

(49:03):
You want to be healthy in your mind, body, soul.
So I hope this helped. I hope people now understand
that permeability to a certain extent can be very helpful
and can help your intuition in gauging who is in
front of you. If you've locked yourself down into psychological

(49:24):
prison and don't open up at all, you're not going
to experience the joy of synergy with other people. And
if you have a semi permeable membrane, that's a good
thing because you're letting in the good and you're keeping
out the bad, and you know how to discern the difference.
So unless there are other questions in the chat room,

(49:47):
are there.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Nope, that was all they have. So I think that's
all right.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
Thank you so much everyone, See you next time. To
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