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Sami Bedell-Mulhern (00:00):
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Hey everybody. So excited to beback with my guest today. Jane
Lockhart, Jane, thank you somuch for being here today.
Jane Lockhart (00:38):
Thank you for
having me. It's really exciting.
Sami Bedell-Mulhern (00:40):
Yeah. So
Jane and I have known each
other. I mean, I don't know it'sgot, we've been in each other's
circles for years, right? Yeah,it's basically
Jane Lockhart (00:51):
2018 ish, yeah.
So
Sami Bedell-Mulhern (00:54):
we both
have the same business coach,
and have kind of connected inthat in that group for years,
have chatted through that group,have worked together on things.
And one of the things that Ihave loved about Eugene is just
watching kind of from thesidelines, and just seeing how
you attack the projects thatyou're working on, and how you
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just have so many differentthings that let you up. And it
just seems like you go all in onthem and just kind of say, You
know what, I'm doing this andlet's just figure it out. Would
you say that's kind of a part ofyour personality, or have you
always been that way?
Jane Lockhart (01:29):
Yeah, I think
that it's definitely a
personality trait. So before Ibefore I started my business, I
worked in corporate for 10years, and the monotony was
really tough for me. Beforethat, I was a journalist and a
photographer, and I reallyenjoyed the learning new things
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all the time, interacting withnew projects all the time, and
sort of like not really knowingwhat the next day would hold. So
when my corporate career ended,I think it was pretty
intentional to try and see whatI could create for myself that
was kind of out of the mold.Yeah,
Sami Bedell-Mulhern (02:13):
well, and I
would say you've definitely done
that, and that totally makes somuch sense your kind of
background. So before we getinto too much like, why don't
you kind of share with people alittle bit of little bit about
who you are and what you do?
Jane Lockhart (02:27):
Yeah, cool. So
this is new, which probably
isn't surprising after thatintroduction, but I have been
also on a decade long healthjourney to work on some things
that I've been going through,and the process of that has led
me into health coaching. So I'mnow putting together programs
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that mainly deal with managingyour hormones from sort of a
basic course that teaches peoplehow to work with their hormones
on just sort of a general day today level, because we go through
cycles of energy. My mainprogram is a program for people
who deal with PCOS and orendometriosis, because I have
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both of those conditions. Thisis Griffin. He likes to join my
tests and and I'm working onputting together another program
for people who will be goingthrough all of the stages of
menopause after my other twoprograms are up and running. So
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by the time this is all togetherand everything, that'll be kind
of my main focus. But I alsowork with coaches who work with
people on body, mind, soul,business, finance, type things,
and help them to communicatewith their audiences. I do
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website design and social mediastrategies for coaches. So those
are the main things. And then Ihave Mary Kay and doTERRA
products that I like to sharewith people, because they have
helped me in my life and arekind of a part of my daily
routines and rituals. So, yeah,well,
Sami Bedell-Mulhern (04:21):
but I
think, I mean, because that's a
lot, it's a lot, and I thinkit's interesting, and why, you
know, like, my story, is sort ofparallel to that, in that, you
know, I have a lot of differentthings that I do, but what I
love about what you're saying isthat it all stems from, like, a
core value that you have inbeing authentic to me. This is
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my perception. Right core valuethat you have in that this is
who I am. This is what I'mexperiencing. But it's not
enough just for me to helpmyself. I want to make sure that
I'm helping other people, and Ican do that through all of these
different ways, in ways that arecreative, that you enjoy as
well. Has that kind of. In, howyou've navigated through, like,
what do I add in? How do Inavigate, kind of, the sharing
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of these things, and also stillturn that into a career that I
can make money off of?
Jane Lockhart (05:13):
Yes, yeah,
definitely. You know, the money
thing is a little is a littlehard to think about, other than
the fact that, like you know, weall have to survive. For me, I
think that, you know, everythingthat I've done to create my
business has been in an effortto make my life better, because
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I didn't like the work that Iwas doing before, and it
affected every aspect of life.And when I started this, I
didn't have a lot of noexperience in any of the like. I
knew how I knew how to do thethings that were my skill set,
but I had a lot of things that Ididn't know how to do. And so I
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ended up working with a lot ofcoaches, and you know, other
people who helped me to createwhat I wanted to create, and so
giving back and helping toimprove other people's lives.
You know, whether that's helpingthem to better communicate
through their business, orhelping them to better manage
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their daily routines, and, youknow, the things that they
struggle with and taking care ofthemselves, all of that is so
worthwhile and and you know, iskind of like it gives a bigger
purpose to the things that Icould sit back and say, you
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know, I went through thesestruggles. What was me? Why
wasn't it easy for me? Well, youknow, I don't think it's easy
for anybody. And so we, each inturn, can turn around and like,
help the people that are goingthrough the things that we went
through.
Sami Bedell-Mulhern (07:03):
So would
you say that's, like, that's
your motivator, because whenyou're multi passionate, and you
have all these differentbusinesses, like, it takes a lot
of time, and so prioritizing howyou spend your time can be
tricky, but, you know, is thatkind of the thing that just
plays in your head, kind of thatpassion, and then how do you
maneuver through and like, paydifferent attention to different
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businesses at different times tomake sure that you know you're
doing the best that you can.
Jane Lockhart (07:29):
Yeah, um, yeah.
For me, it really is the main
motivator. Um, that passion toto connect with other people and
to create things that that makethem have better lives, is, like
the big point. I think I couldprobably say that better, but
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I'm not really sure how, how,um, but I think for as far as,
like, how I have my hands in somany different buckets right now
really comes down to, I do timeblock for my time management. So
with time blocks, you, like, setaside larger chunks of time,
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kind of than you think you wouldneed to get tasks done, and,
like, group things together. Solike, like on Mondays, that's
kind of my day to like, in themorning, I focus on, like, all
the things you have to do foryour business. In the afternoon,
then I work on my content for myown business. And then on
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Tuesdays, I work with my clientsand do things that I have to do
for a couple of networking andnonprofit groups that I'm a part
of. And then Wednesdays is backto, like, bigger projects that
I'm working on. And Thursday iskind of like a learning and
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catch up day, so like, I kind ofcall it my life admin day, where
all the that I need to get done,they kind of fall on that day.
And then Friday is finishing upanything that needs to be done,
doing my financial check in andlike planning my coming week.
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And I try to do that. Those arethe things that I hate to do. So
I try to do those as early andquickly as possible, on Friday,
and then once I get those done,then I'm allowed to end the week
and start the weekend. So Ithink what's
Sami Bedell-Mulhern (09:39):
so great
about that, though, is that you
have that bucket for the thingsthat you don't like to do,
because, like, what I tend to dosometimes is I have these tasks
that just keep getting pushedfrom day to day because I don't
want to do them, and then theyjust continue to weigh on your
mind and, like, kind of bringyou down. So by having that time
where you're like, that's justmy suck it up and get it done,
time for this task that I don'twant to do. It probably frees up
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your brain to, like, just letthat go. I know you only have to
be uncomfortable for like, anhour or two a week, but you're
not thinking about it all thetime that you haven't gotten I
have to get this done. I have toget this done. Yeah,
Jane Lockhart (10:13):
yeah, it does
help. I actually learned that
from my accountant, so that wasa great lesson to learn. Right
at the beginning of of mybusiness, was the time blocking
thing. And like taking, takingall the things that you really
don't like, which can be calledlike, the things that take
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energy from you, as opposed togiving you energy. Like those
things in your business, if yougroup them into like, one chunk,
and you might have to do it,like, a couple times a week,
depending on how much you'vegot, but, like, it makes it seem
smaller because you're justdoing it all at once, even
though it's a couple of hours
Sami Bedell-Mulhern (10:53):
so smart,
yeah, and that you have a reward
at the end of it, like, I'mdoing it on Friday, because when
I get it done, then I get to bedone for the week. Like, that is
motivation enough to, like, getit, get through it,
Jane Lockhart (11:04):
yeah, you know.
And then usually, like, by that
point, my brain is jello becauseit's working on the things that
aren't, like, my my strongsuits. I've had to do a lot of
math, and so I get done withthat. I know what I'm doing in
the week coming ahead, and then,like, my brain can just, like,
totally power down. Yeah. Okay.
Sami Bedell-Mulhern (11:27):
So for for
those that are listening that
are like, okay, yeah, thissounds all well and good, she's
got this plan, whatever she'sdoing, all the things that she's
passionate about, and maybethey're stuck in that kind of
where you were corporate spaceor whatever. Insert whatever job
that's not lighting you up. Ifeel like the biggest hurdle in
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getting past that, into doingsomething that you really want
to do, is kind of valuing, likewhat you just said, like,
valuing that time and those timeblocks and not giving them up
because you know that they'rethere for a reason. So like, did
you have struggles like, kind ofeasing and stepping into that as
you've kind of grown and builtyour businesses where you've had
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to put yourself first and maybebe quote, unquote selfish, even
though it's not and like, youknow, how do you kind of
mentally hold that time andspace so that you don't give it
up for other things, otherpressures, other things in life
that come up
Jane Lockhart (12:25):
that was
extremely, extremely hard to
learn. I so I was in the processof setting money aside in order
to start my business, whenthings kind of fell apart with
the job that I had, and I endedup leaving earlier than I
planned to, and starting mybusiness full time, like
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overnight, basically. So whathappened with that was because I
had been working as a consultantfor 10 years. Like, the mindset
of a consultant is basically,you do anything and everything
for your client, especially whenyou have one client, and you
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know that client is your onlyclient, like you, kind of you
kind of, like, go above andbeyond every single day for an
extended period of time I was ina big loop of overwork
perfectionism, you know, justlike not taking care of myself
and putting my my client first,which were great habits to have,
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but I needed to learn toBalance. And that first year in
business for myself, I suddenlyrealized, like about a year into
it, that I had just taken thehabits that were kind of what I
wanted to get away from bystarting my business and brought
them with me. I was like the daythat I realized that this was
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happening. I realized I hadworked for six weeks straight
without any days off, and thatwas also partially because,
like, my schedule was allowingfor that at that time. And I I
was like, why am I so tired?What's going on here? And then I
realized that, like I was I hadno boundaries, and I had carried
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on that that no boundaryexpectation into my new job. So
it did take stepping back andworking very consciously on
saying, I'm going to set theseboundaries for myself, and I
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have to be the one to keep them.And for me, it really started
with the very first thing I didwas I my weekends are mine, and
I don't start work until nine,and I stop at five, and I'm not
real good at stopping at five,even to this day. And. But I
don't start work until nine anyday of the week, and if I'm
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doing really well in my dailyroutine, then I have a few hours
in the morning to myself beforeI start work. Some days I'm not
feeling great, or my routine iskind of off. And you know, I
might wake up and start working,like, 10 minutes after I wake
up, but it's at nine instead of,like, right, you know, waking up
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in the middle like, oh, I needto start work. And, you know,
yeah, so it took a lot ofpractice. It took a lot of
checking in, and it wasincremental. I think that is a
major one. Like, you don't wantto, you don't want to try to
change everything all at once,because it's not manageable to
do. So you really have to, like,I made a list, I think, of the
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things that I wanted to do. Ithink it was in one of our mini
retreats where you kind of breakdown your date, what you want
your day to look like. And sothen I was like, Okay, if I
wanted this perfect day, if thisis how I want it to look like,
what? What do I have to do inorder to get that? And really
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had to say, okay, in order toget that, I need to do these
five things, but I'm obviouslynot going to be able to do them
all at once. So which one ismost important? Like which will
get me the most act? Yeah, anddid that one and then added on.
So it definitely wasn't, Oh, Iwoke up with a perfect schedule
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today,
Sami Bedell-Mulhern (16:42):
because
that's something I've struggled
with too, because I get up at5:30 and, like, do start working
right away, just because, like,it's just how my schedule works.
And then I take like, a chunk oftime in the middle while I'm
getting the kids ready forschool and getting myself ready
and whatnot. But like, you know,I feel like we hear all these
gurus that talk about yourmorning routine and wake up 30
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minutes earlier and do all ofthese things and and, you know,
it works for some but like, itdoesn't always work for other.
Like, I work really well in themorning come like, like,
recording a podcast at two, oneo'clock, two o'clock in the
afternoon, for me is, like,perfect, because I can have a
conversation to work on, like,financials are, like, a really
difficult task in the afternoondoes not work for my brain. And
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I have to be in bed by night.And I hear people that say, Oh,
I stayed up until midnightworking. I'm like, I don't have
no like, that sounds like theworst thing, but getting up at
5:30 is easy for me, so I lovethat you're saying, like, No, I
chose that I'm gonna wake up andI'm not gonna work till nine
regardless, because that's whatI want, and that's how my brain
works. I don't think we giveourselves enough space to figure
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out our optimal working capacityand what makes the most sense
for how we work versus how whatwe think it should look like.
Jane Lockhart (17:58):
Yeah, I think
that that is very true. I have,
like, a couple of things that Ithink fall into that category of
like, how we kind of have toswitch our mindset if it's
really going to work for us. Andone of them is trial and error
is okay. And if we're doinglike, trial and error and like
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checking in with ourself andevaluating how it worked, then
even our fails are not reallyfailures. They're like a test.
Like getting up at 5:30 in themorning. Doesn't work for me,
because I very often go throughphases where I can't sleep until
like 12 or one, yeah, and so ifI get up at 30, then, like, my
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brain turns on real focused andclear in the afternoon. And so
that's often why I tend to worklate, because that's when my
brain is really being creativeand coming up with ideas, and
sometimes in the middle of thenight. And so if I'm sticking to
that 530 wake up, which I triedto do for a while, it just
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forces me to not be in my zoneof genius when, when it actually
occurs for me. So theneverything is hard. And so if I
allow myself to say, Okay, Idon't have to wake up at 5:30 in
order to be a successfulentrepreneur. If I wake up at
seven and start my day at nine,that still gives me two hours in
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the morning to do, like mymorning routine or whatever, and
I'm still getting an eight hourwork day. And
Sami Bedell-Mulhern (19:35):
some days I
lined that up, and though this
is because this is the thingthat I really struggle with. So
I'm sorry to cut you off, butthis notion of the eight hour
workday is so hard because,like, I like, we don't work
hourly jobs, right? Like, wedon't get paid by the hours that
we put in. Wouldn't that benice? But we don't, and so I
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find myself really strugglingwith. Like, I'll work from,
like, from 5:30 until like, 2:30when I have to pick up leave, to
pick up my kids from school. Andsometimes I'll come back and
work. Sometimes I have latermeetings, sometimes I don't, but
like, I'll, like, find myselffeeling guilty that I'm not
working till five. And then Ilook at the hours that I've
worked, and I'm like, Wait,that's like, a ton of hours. And
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why do we have to work an eighthour workday.
Jane Lockhart (20:25):
You know, that's
very true, and we don't work
well. Nobody works well doinglike nobody works a full eight
hours without any type of breakwhatsoever, anyway. So that, on
its face, is kind of ridiculous,that we hold ourselves to that
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standard. Yeah, I think that. Ithink that that is a hard habit
to break, though it's soingrained in our culture, it is.
But yeah, there are probablydays that I work a lot more out
than eight hours. I try not towork less than eight hours,
though, maybe I need to look atthat. That would be fun to
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experiment with.
Sami Bedell-Mulhern (21:09):
Sorry, not
to not to challenge you on that
one. But that's something that Iknow I really struggle with, is
just like how I'm spending mytime and how I value myself
based off of the way that I'vespent my time and how I value
myself based off of how I thinkother people are valuing how I'm
spending my time. Like, if Ihave a client and they want to
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have a meeting at four o'clock,I'm like, I'm not available
because I'm not working. LikeI'm done for the day at four
o'clock, like I feel like thatmakes me look lazy. Like, that's
the thing that's ingrained inus. But I've been up working
since 4:30 or 5:30 in themorning. You know what I mean?
Like, there's no rationale forthat outside of societal
culture. And also, like, beingin the direct sales space, like
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you are with sharing doTERRA andMary Kay. It's like, also, you
see people that are like,hustle, like, the whole hustle
culture, and you're like, Well,I'm not doing I don't know how
exactly you're in your business,but you're, you know, like, I
don't, I'm not doing that. Andyou feel like judgment based off
of that, but it's like, no,that's the beauty of this
business, is I can do it how Iwant to. I don't have to compare
myself to anyone like thatcomparison piece is really hard
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for me. And so I'm curious howyou kind of manage through some
of that.
Jane Lockhart (22:23):
Yeah, I think
that that has been something
really interesting. Because whenI started really getting into,
like, figuring out all of thisstuff, I'd been in business for
like, a year, year and a half,and it was like, kind of around
2020, when all, like, when Istarted realizing that I was
still being really, reallyworkaholic, and so everybody was
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kind of taking a step back atthat point, so I didn't really
feel a lot of pushback when Ifirst got a schedule that really
worked for me into place. Andthen as time has gone on and
things have gotten back to moreof people are trying to go back
to what was normal before thathas become a little bit harder
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to navigate. I think, I think Itend, I tend to enjoy going
against the grain most of thetime. So I'm probably, I'm
probably someone who enjoyshaving like my comparisons to
other people are more like,Haha. They're doing it the way
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everybody else is, and I'm not,but I know that there are
definitely things that I lookat, especially with like our
networking group, where I'mlike, Oh, wow, they're really,
they're really rocking it andand doing things, and I really
wish I could be like them. Andthen I like, take a step back,
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and I'm like, okay, they dothings in a completely different
way than me. They have adifferent energy cycle than I
do, dealing with differenthealth concerns than I have.
Like, when you were talkingabout getting up early, you have
kids, and you have to deal with,like, the school schedule and
stuff, and I don't have that. Sothat makes a difference. Like,
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my day would probably lookcompletely different if I had to
navigate the school schedule.Yeah. So think that, you know,
it's another one of those thingswhere you got to kind of step
back and say, Do I really wantthis or, like, what? What are my
motivators? Why am I? Why am Iworking for myself? Obviously,
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part of working for ourselves isso that we can be in charge of
our decisions. So, yeah,
Sami Bedell-Mulhern (24:47):
no,
totally, totally. Well, Jane,
you are an inspiration to me. Iknow we don't talk as often as
as we should, but I'm alwayswatching you from the sidelines
and all the things that thatyou're doing and you're always
coming with. Things like thishealth coaching thing, which is
beautiful, which I didn't knowyou were doing, so that's
amazing. So we're wrapping upeach episode with maybe like
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three tips that you if you couldkind of share with listeners if
they were thinking about movinginto something that they're
passionate about, or leaving acorporate job, or stepping into
coaching, or, you know, kind ofchallenging themselves to follow
something that they care about,versus just continuing to do
what's what they've been doing.Kind of, do you have three
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things that you could kind ofinspire listeners with that are
at some sort of phase of thejourney that you've been on?
Jane Lockhart (25:40):
Sure, yeah, the
first one is, take it slowly,
like, whatever that looks likefor you, like you may end up
like me, starting the process,like I went back to grad school.
Two years before I started mybusiness, I was keeping ideas in
a notebook and had like, a lotof, like, sort of loose plans
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that I allowed myself to keepand come back to and like, you
know what I read, it's what Iread. It what I read started,
and I realized that even thoughI didn't quite know what I was
going to do. I was preparing forit before, before I made the
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change. So that's the first oneis kind of, let it be
incremental. I think the secondone for me would be,
you can do things in a trial anderror way and allow yourself to
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have check ins and evaluations.The nice thing about being multi
passionate is, as you build yourbusiness, you'll have, like, a
core foundation of, like, whatyou know you're good at, and
I've always kept that throughthe process, but I like to try
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things out, and if it doesn'twork, then i i can pivot and
change and adjust, because Istill Have the core intact. So I
think that's a great way to doit, is give yourself a
foundational set of skills orservices that you do and that
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you can keep consistent nomatter what's going on, and then
you can build from that. Ididn't get to start doing any of
the really creative sort ofretreat throwing I like the
retreats that I do, or thedifferent writers club and stuff
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like that. Some of those thingsthat were more fun and more
enjoyable. I didn't get to dothose until a couple years in,
but I was keeping those in mynotebook too. I had to set those
foundations. So, you know,there's that, that balance of
what you do to, like, make thecore of your business work, and
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then what you do to play withyour business.
Sami Bedell-Mulhern (28:23):
Yeah, so
good.
Jane Lockhart (28:25):
And then, you
know, let yourself be curious. I
Sami Bedell-Mulhern (28:27):
think,
yeah, I love that. Because I
think that's something we don'tgive ourselves time to do
because we're just so like inthe hustle and bustle. So I love
that. Um, well, Jane, I haveloved this conversation. So
inspirational for me, I knowwill be for the listeners as
well. If people want to connectwith you and learn more about
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all the different services thatyou offer, from marketing to
personal health and care andwellness like, how can they do
that?
Jane Lockhart (28:57):
Okay, so my
website is jluxdesigns.com
designs.com. That's J L U Xdesigns. And then you can find
me on Facebook @JLuxDesigns, andInstagram is @JLuxDesignsLLC, so
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love it, and we'll link everybest way. Yeah,
Sami Bedell-Mulhern (29:21):
we'll link
it all up in the show notes too,
at easystylewithsami.com/27Jane, thanks for being one of my
first guests back as we'verebooted this podcast.
Jane Lockhart (29:33):
Well, thank you.
It was so much fun. I
Sami Bedell-Mulhern (29:36):
want to
give a big thank you to Jane for
coming on today and really beingvulnerable and sharing her story
with us, I know that you willfind it inspirational, just like
I did. She's an incredible humanand I'm so grateful for her for
coming on the show and beinghere with us today. You can see
all the resources in the shownotes and additional information
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at easystylewithsami.com/27 andthat's S A M I, I hope that
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