March 20, 2023 • 44 mins
I am having a jolly good conversation with Maria Rubia about her career, the music industry, online marketing, and her future plans.
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Show notes with links to articles, blog posts, products and services:
- Maria Rubia on Wikipedia
- Popcorn (instrumental)
- Pöpcørn | Recipes with The Swedish Chef | The Muppets
- Maria Rubia official website
- Maria's management on Twitter
- Crazy Dog Records
- Power Promotions on Instagram
- Maria on Instagram
- Miami Music Week
- Fragma feat. Maria Rubia - Everytime You Need Me (Original Video) 2001
- Maria Rubia on Shazam
- Value 4 Value
- Music Side Project
- Wavlake
- Pieces Of My Life by Maria Rubia
- 2 Unlimited - No Limit (Moon Project Remix Edit)
- EGO Search on Rozalla (episode 105)
- The Morning Show with Aaron Michael Sanchez featuring Maria Rubia
- New Podcast Apps
- PodcastApps.com
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Martin (00:02):
Ego net cost.
Welcome to Ego net cost.
I am Martin Lindeskog and this will be episode130.
And today I have a guest here.
Hello, Maria Rubia.
Maria (00:16):
Hi, how are you?
Martin (00:18):
I'm fine.
Yourself?
What's on your mind?
Maria (00:22):
I love your accent.
Martin (00:23):
You could do yeah, thanks.
Maria (00:25):
All day.
Martin (00:26):
Is it Queen's English or American English?
Maria (00:31):
What I'm speaking now yeah, it's Queen English and I Swedish.
Martin (00:39):
Yeah, it could be that swingish Swedish.
Maria (00:43):
English with a very nice Swedish accent.
Martin (00:45):
Thanks.
So talking about that, have you seen The
Muppet Show?And The Swedish Chef?
Maria (00:53):
No.
Martin (00:54):
Then you definitely should check out a song called Popcorn.
You know the classic synth electronic popmusic that was like buttery pop popcorn.
And the Swedish Chef in The Muppet Show.
He's talking like, boom, boom, boom.
It's not Swedish, but it's that very finkySwedish.
It's so funny.
He's making popcorn and shrimp together.
(01:16):
Totally hilarious music video, but it's withthis popcorn song.
And we will talk about your music and happymusic.
And thanks to and shout out to Yonathan Dahlthat told me about you and asked if it would
(01:38):
be interesting to have you as a guest on theshow.
And I have had, I think it's ten individualsright now, artists that I have had on Egonet
Cost.
Here my podcast, so that's great.
So thanks for taking your time here, Maria.
And we can start out with that.
Your fans, they are called Rubies likeprecious dough, right?
Maria (02:02):
Yes, but I don't like the word fans because I just think it's just silly.
I think we're all fame, you know what I mean?
Martin (02:10):
Right, yeah.
Maria (02:12):
Because to me, they're very precious, thank God.
All over the world.
And I was getting a lot of messages on my
Instagram saying, happy Women's InternationalDay yesterday, which I thought, they're so
kind, they don't need to send me that message.
It was just really lovely.
Yeah, they're literally from all over theworld.
(02:34):
I mean, I've had soldiers stuck up mountainsfor work whilst they were doing a battle, and
one was depressed and he said it was my songsthat kept him going.
And I was like, wow, that to me is so special.
Martin (02:49):
Yeah. So let's talk about special.
When I did a search on Your Name Here, I found
like 61,000 hits on Google.
I haven't searched an alternative search
engine like Doctor Go.
I often do that also, but I checked that and
the first one, and we'll talk about a littleabout marketing and how to be found on the net
(03:12):
for an artist and record labors and others.
It was a Wikipedia entry with you and then it
was a link to your official page so we couldstart out that from a gecko.
Could you tell the listeners where to find youin cyberspace on your own page?
Maria (03:29):
Yes. Thank you.
Because I basically got all of my socials
hacked, some deleted, and there is one outthere that is not my official page.
So we've now set up a website so that, thankGod, is like at the top of the when you Google
it, it comes to the top and it'swww.mariarubiaofficial.com.
(03:53):
And that's got all of my socials, my realsocials on there because there are some out
there that are fake.
And also there are some producers that have
said, oh, Maria Rubio has sung on this song.
I've not sung on that song.
And he also says that I've been in a Mexicanfilm.
I've never been in a Mexican film.
(04:14):
So there's a lot of mistakes and false
information on the internet, so just be verycareful.
Martin (04:22):
Good. And I like that advice.
As a new media advisor, I said, be careful out
there and double check.
And then I also see opportunities as a new
media advisor to help along with this.
Because if you create content like blog posts
or videos, podcasts and so on, you will comeup off the top in the long run.
(04:45):
And that's like the Wikipedia, it's very goodthat it is an official way there and also
linked to official, because I found Facebook,as you said, Twitter and others.
And I was wondering, is that the real deal oris it somebody else or is it something that
was in the past and so on.
So it's good that you have mentioned that on
your website there.
Also I see lots of information there and I see
(05:07):
potential for that website.
Also what you could do in the future.
Maria (05:11):
Because even on the Wikipedia, there's misinformation on there.
People that are just adding stuff onto myWikipedia.
Martin (05:20):
Yeah, because they could edit it.
Maria (05:22):
Yeah, it's not the truth.
I don't think Wikipedia should allow Tom Dick
and Harry to just add stuff on there becauseit's not the case.
People I don't know are just adding stuff ontoWikipedia.
So I don't bother with Wikipedia.
I don't bother with even looking anymore
because there's a lot of things that is notcorrect.
So, yeah, the website has got all the correctinformation.
(05:44):
It's got all of the songs.
We are doing a YouTube channel and all of
that.
So all of that information is correct.
Martin (05:55):
That's good.
And that will be interesting when you search
for something and how you work with socialmedia and new media.
So I liked what you said on the page whereGoogle got the go.
You said about the vocals there and thecredits that you want to have credits when his
credit is due, but you want to have it in thecorrect way so that we could come to your
(06:18):
latest song.
Is that a piece of the puzzle to how to get
out there in the cyberspace and how to getthrough to your Rubies and others?
Of course you meet them at the concerts, youhave contact with them in different ways, but
do you see that as a challenge?I know that you have a management team and you
have the record label, you have guys likeYonaton and others that are promoting you and
(06:42):
so on.
What's your thoughts on this as an artist?
Maria (06:45):
Yes. So when all of my socials got hacked, you literally rely on your socials for
everything.
And I was communicating with a lot of people,
business people, via my socials.
So when they got hacked and my TikTok got
deleted first, and I was like, okay, well,that's not that important.
(07:08):
I can do another one.
But my Twitter had a lot of followers.
I'm talking a lot.
And I've been with Twitter since 2014.
And the sad thing is that Twitter has nocustomer service, zero Instagram, Spotify, all
of that.
Yes, but Twitter, no. And we keep getting bot
(07:29):
emails, and they're like, oh, because there'san impersonation official Maria Rubia page,
which has nothing to do with me.
And we told them about it, and they're like,
oh, we need your ID.
Well, I don't have ID in my stage name.
That's my stay's name.
And they're like, oh, yeah.
And it's the same message, bot email that theysend at the end.
(07:53):
You just give up.
So I'm not on Twitter anymore.
I've just got my team on Twitter, so mymanagement and then there's Maria Rubio
updates.
But that's it.
That's it, because otherwise it's just you canget stressed about it.
You're like, oh, my gosh, you're a massivecompany.
But the company is too big for me.
What has happened to me?
(08:13):
Twitter is too big because it doesn't go tothe problem, which is bad.
So my management literally are writing to ElonMusk about it because it's just unacceptable.
Yeah, so that's why we set up the website,because that's a point of contact that can't
get hacked, the company, and then people cango onto it.
(08:38):
You can then reach to the people out there whoenjoy music.
And spotify artists is absolutely fantastic.
It's very professional.
And if there's a tiny little thing that youdon't get, you contact them.
Their customer service is on point.
So that's how it needs to be an Instagram as
well.
They're very good TikTok.
(08:59):
Yeah, I love TikTok, but I'm not a person thattakes selfies all day, every day or videos.
My personal life, I follow a lot of people whodo that, and that's their thing.
But with me, I'm extremely private with mychildren, with my private life, because I
think it's really important to have thatseparation.
So I've got far less followers than if I wasliterally filming myself all day, every day,
(09:25):
filming myself swimming and when I'm eatingand all that, I would have a lot more.
But that's the choice that I've made, is thatI like to stay private.
And the only thing that I like to put outthere is the music.
You do photo shoots, so that's the model in mewhen I do photo shoots, then that goes in
(09:48):
magazines or then I will add that to mysocials.
But that's business, that's not my life, ifthat makes sense.
Martin (09:56):
Yeah. Tough.
So that's good decision, I think.
And I am a cat person.
I will talk about food also.
I often ask you about that question.
And you're in England, right?
So do you drink tea?
Maria (10:13):
Oh, no, I've never drunk tea.
No, that stains your teeth.
That's not good for you.
No, green tea is very good for you.
It's good for your insides.
But no, I just drink water or smoothies.
I am definitely a cat and a dog person.
So we have a little cat called Cuddles, which
(10:35):
we absolutely love, and we are actually goingto get a little puppy, a cockapoo.
That's the choice of my little one calledBailey.
He's eight years old.
Martin (10:46):
Yeah.
Maria (10:46):
He chooses what he wants and he hand color.
What is your cat called?
Martin (10:54):
Robin.
So he's a red.
Yeah.
It's nice.
And your record company, it's dogs, right?
Maria (11:06):
Yes. So they're called Crazy Dog Records and have a dog that they absolutely
love, and they put it in my pop videos.
I think it's the mascot of the record company
and, yeah, they absolutely love their doggie,so that's fair enough.
You respect that.
That's their mascot.
(11:26):
And, yeah, they love him to bits.
I can't remember his name.
I can't remember, say, he or she.
I went into the studio and the dog was there
and I met David's wife and lovely people.
The PR company that I'm using is called Power
Promotions and they're plug in all of thesongs that we've got out.
We've got free out at the moment.
(11:46):
And my Traps again played in Miami Music Week
on the 21st, which is fantastic.
So the record company is excited, I'm excited.
The PR company, Power Promotions, they've beengoing for 30 years, so they are very kind and
they've done it at mates rates.
(12:07):
We call it in English, so not too expensive.
They're very kind to us.
My mum and dad paid them, which was kind of my
mum and dad.
But, yeah, you know, it's like you get
feedback from DJs, so the DJs are enjoying thesongs and they are downloading it.
(12:28):
So that's really good.
We 8.6 million downloads on Spotify alone.
Wow, thank you.
And seven point it's going up every week by
100,000 views.
It's 7.5 million views on YouTube.
So, yeah.
So thank you to everyone that's out.
(12:49):
And it's gone viral on TikTok.
We got to my surprise, that was the Big
Brother theme tune that's gone viral onTikTok.
And also, every time you need me has goneviral.
So that's the power.
Martin (13:05):
Is that the one? Because I listen when I search on Apple Music,
we'll talk about the different how you couldget out there.
I remember the day with vinyl and so on, howyou could listen to music and how you could
get paid.
So I did a search on Apple Music and I found
the one that you mentioned there.
(13:26):
Could you tell a little about that?
Because then you got like Silver was it recordthanks to this Fragma thing.
Was that the first hit, so to speak?Or have you done other tunes before that?
Maria (13:42):
No, so I did theater before that, but I was in university and I've modeled since 13
years old.
So I was like in magazines and TV adverts and
things like that.
But I was myself going to meetings with
businessmen at the age of 16 1718.
(14:06):
And imagine a young girl, long blonde hair,
slim, who was having business meetings withmen who just wanted to eat me up, I think in
their forty s. And they wouldn't take meseriously.
And I was like, okay, well because I reallywanted them to take me seriously.
So my attitude was, no, I'm not going to sleepwith you, because that was quite normal.
(14:31):
So they would say, oh, well, if you date me, Ican give you this, or if you're my mistress, I
can give you this, and I can get your recorddeal, blah, blah, blah.
And none of that was happening, I will not dothat.
So I would just go, oh, thank you.
And then I just say, okay, I'm going to go
now.
And then I would leave politely and that would
(14:52):
be the end of the meeting.
So I sieved through all of the I'd call them
perverts, weirdos, or Opportunists, whateveryou want to call them.
And no, I didn't sleep with anyone to get towhere I was because that's my self respect, I
think.
And that's just how I was brought up, is you
(15:14):
keep yourself to yourself and business isbusiness and that's completely separate.
So, yeah, I was in university and then I hadmeetings, good meetings, not meetings like
that, good meetings where they meant business.
And I would sing down the phone to them and
then they said, oh, fragment.
(15:35):
I've just had a number one and are interested
in flying you over to the studio.
Imagine university and over.
And they've just had a number one, and I waslistening to it on the radio.
So anyway, cut long story short, yeah, I wentthere.
I was really nervous, didn't think I got it.
Mom and dad were like, did you get it,
darling?I said, I don't think so.
(15:57):
And they were like, oh, they were moredisappointed than me.
And then I got the phone call and then I gotit, and I was like, oh my God.
Yeah.
And then it happens really fast, doesn't it?
You know what happens when you're famoushappens very fast.
So 1 minute you're not getting recognized,next minute you are, you're doing a pop video,
(16:18):
you're signing autographs, and it's anavalanche.
And I was getting like two to 4 hours sleep.
The promotion was incredible.
It was very professional.
I was with EMI who treated me amazingly well,
and fragment were amazing.
I'm still in contact with them now and it was
(16:40):
just done perfectly.
It's all I can explain.
And my tour manager, et cetera.
I had a lovely team around me.
And then off the back of that, we did theother song.
So, yeah, I did the Big Brother theme tuneForever in a Day.
And then I did Akira, Here Comes the Rainagain.
So the guy from Eurythmics, he gave us yeah,David, he gave us the thumbs up.
(17:05):
He liked the vocals, so that was an honor.
And then I wrote say it.
When I was stuck on the motorway, you know,when there's accidents on the motorway, I was
like, oh.
And then this song came to me.
I was like, oh, my God, I got to write it downquick.
And then, yeah, it just carried on from thereand I was Mummy.
So I ended up in a wheelchair with Brandon.
(17:28):
I couldn't walk because he nearly died inside
of me.
He got stuck, yeah.
And so I had seconds to get him out becausehis heart rate was dropping.
And then when he came out, he wasn'tbreathing, so they hid him from me and it was
crazy.
Like, you expect the baby to cry.
(17:49):
Why is the baby crying?And I saw my mum really pale, so after that, I
couldn't walk.
Basically, I'd broken my synthesis pubists
bone that I'd never heard of before.
I was like, what is that?
They're like, yeah, you've broken it, yousnapped it.
So I didn't walk for two and a half years andthen it was just lovely being Mummy.
(18:11):
And I had lots of phone calls for work, but Iwent from size four to a size 18 because I
just couldn't move.
It wasn't like I was eating cakes or anything.
I just couldn't move.
I literally was on the sofa six months.
I had baby on my back, like an African woman,and I would crawl to get baby stuff and say,
(18:34):
he was catered for.
It was an experience, but it made me
appreciate people in wheelchairs, because whenyou're not in a wheelchair, you don't
understand.
But when you're in a wheelchair and you're
just trying to go down the pavements andthings like that, there are so many things
that you can't get into, like restaurants andshops and things like that.
(18:54):
The doorways are too small, or there's bumpsand things like that.
So, yeah, it made me sympathize a lot withwheelchair users.
That was the positive.
Martin (19:08):
That'S this accessibility and so on.
And there you have it on the Internet, also to
be able to read things on the net and also tolisten to music and podcasts.
We'll talk more about your song, where you hadalso, like, a club remix of a band.
(19:30):
Could you tell a little bit about that?
Maria (19:32):
There are loads of club mixes out there from wonderful people.
I've never met or never heard of or celeb DJsalso.
But I found one a couple of days ago that I'veadded onto my website, which is absolutely
banging.
It's so strong.
I love it.
I played it to my children in the car and they
were dancing about in the car.
(19:55):
I love that people just take your music and
just flip it and twist it and do their owncreativity.
That's the joy about music.
I just love it.
And yeah, you mentioned silver disc.
We got a silver disc and a gold disc with
every time you need me.
And what happened was last year it got put on
(20:18):
Love Island UK.
Excuse me, my voice is going, Love Island UK.
And I didn't know anything about it.
And Fragment had been trying to contact me for
the past couple of years, but I changed mynumber, I've moved, blah, blah.
So then they just released it and then I had alot of messages on my phone like, oh my gosh,
(20:42):
your song is playing Love Island UK.
And I'm like, what?
No, I don't have anything out.
I don't know what you're talking about.
And then I checked it, okay?And then it's funny how the Internet helps you
because then on my new Twitter, I basicallyput, oh, thank you so much for having me on
(21:04):
your show, blah, blah.
And then I hashtag Fragma, and then Fragma
found me from that tweet and then we startedconversing again and they were like, We've
been trying to find you for years.
I'm like oh, my God.
I'm so sorry.
Martin (21:18):
That's good.
Maria (21:19):
Yeah, we're talking about doing another song together, which I think would be really
lovely for the rubies out there and for peopleout there.
Yeah, I mean, club mixes for me are the bestbecause they're played in clubs and people can
really have a good dance with them becausethey're faster and they're stronger.
Martin (21:42):
Yeah, that's good.
And I have some ideas that maybe it could be
interesting for you and the management andothers, and that's how you could support
artists directly, also with something calledthe Value for Value model bits of bitcoin
called Satoshis.
And also that you could send like a boostogram
(22:04):
or telegram and give your appreciation andthank you note to the artist.
I will include that in show notes.
It's one project called The Music Side Project
and another called Wave Lake WA v. Lake.
And it's interesting to see because back in
(22:27):
the day when the record companies and thestores selling vinyls and now it's streaming
mostly, but also it's interesting to see that,as you said, the DDA coming back and they are
mixing and they are using the old recordsagain.
But it must be a challenge as an artist to getthe royalties and get the streaming, as you
(22:51):
said, and also when it's concerts andmerchandise and all this kind of thing.
So I think that we'll see new alternatives andnew ways.
And also to give like credit, as you said, ifyou have every individually in the chain, it
could be, as you said, the remixes, it couldbe studio musicians, it could be marketing, it
could be album art, could be lyrics, etcetera, et cetera.
Maria (23:15):
Yeah, definitely.
I think that's a wonderful idea.
Martin (23:19):
Yeah. And now you are bilingual also.
I have heard you talking in French in one
song, but also Spanish, right?Yeah, Spanish radio station the other day.
Maria (23:35):
I speak more than two languages.
I love languages.
I'm currently learning Mandarin and I'mrevising my Italian.
There's Kiara.
I don't know if you know, she's extremely
famous in the fashion world.
I've been listening to her on Netflix.
(23:57):
She's got a documentary out in Italian andthen I've got my subtitles.
And it's so funny how when I was in the bath,I was just singing in Italian and all the
Italian words coming back.
So I love languages.
I'm not keen on maths, but I love languages.
Martin (24:15):
That's great.
So when you come up with, as I said, the song
and lyrics, could you then tell about thelatest one?
As I said, the pieces of a puzzle there.
Maria (24:27):
Pieces Of My Life is a song that was written by David, who for me is a talented
producer and okay, he co wrote it with someother guys, but he's the only guy that I met.
So it's a very clever song.
It's a beautiful song.
(24:48):
For me, it's the number one, not because I'msinging the vocals on it, but because without
Just as, it is just a demo, it's the numberone hit.
And I think it should be in films, I think itshould be in adverts, because it's just such a
lovely song.
When I got sent it, my big boy, Brandon said,
wow, Mum, that is the best song you'vereceived in years.
(25:11):
And I said, I totally agree.
I need to get into the studio and get the
vocals down on that because it's so lovely.
So that's out Pieces of My Life and obviously
on Spotify Artists and on all the other socialplatforms.
And then Eye of the Storm, also written byDavid, is out now.
(25:32):
So Pieces of My Life is more of a pop ballad,but the club mixes are really cool as well.
And then you've got either Storm, that's moreof a pop, which is really good song that gets
you going, like when you're in the car.
And club mixes are coming out with that
(25:55):
already as well, which is good.
And then we've got the Every Time You Need Me
2022 track, which is lovely, the one that gotplayed on Love Island UK.
So, yes, we got those at the moment.
And then we've got the others, obviously,
because it's mad.
They're coming back, like I said, Forever in a
Day, it's gone viral on TikTok.
(26:15):
So that's the beauty of music.
There's no limit to you play a track and thenit will just be liked by a certain person and
it gets played.
And that's why I love music so much.
Martin (26:30):
It's funny when you said that word no Limit, I listened to Two Unlimited and the
song no Limit the other day and it's funny tosee them there in a way, maybe some other
singers and so on.
I think Anita was one of the earlier about the
band and they are touring and it'sinteresting.
(26:51):
And same thing like with Rosala that I havehad on my podcast here, yonatandal arranged.
She had been in business for is it over 30years now.
Maria (27:05):
I met her at I can't remember where we were because, you know, you go to so many
events, but we were in a VIP area.
All I remember is this.
And then there was a guy who had like blacktrousers, white shirt and then a black
waistcoat.
So I thought the waiter.
So I sat next to Rosala and I was like I askedthe guy if he would give me a drink.
(27:32):
Rosala started laughing and she goes, do youknow who that is?
The waiter?And she goes, That's Jason Donovan.
You've just asked him to get you a drink.
Martin (27:45):
What's a good one.
Maria (27:48):
What? Oh, no. Oh my God.
What happened?He doesn't look the same.
And that's when he was going through a bit ofa tough time, let's put it that way.
Which he would admit himself.
And I said I thought he was the waiter.
And Rosalis died laughing ahead off.
And Elton John comes in and I go, I can't
(28:09):
believe I've just asked Jason Donovan thinkinghe was a waiter, to go and get me a lemonade.
And Elton John was laughing his head off.
And then Jason Donovan comes back with the
lemonade and he goes, oh, here you go.
And I go, I am so sorry.
I am so sorry.
I literally thought you were a waiter.
I didn't recognize you with your hair likethat.
And he goes, he took it really funny.
(28:31):
But I said, oh my gosh, what a nice man to
literally go and get me.
That was a little funny story that I'll never
forget.
Martin (28:43):
Yeah, that's a funny story.
That's good.
Do you have any other stories to share?And then also, of course, tell about your
future plans.
Maria (28:52):
Oh my God, there are so many.
When I met I did a gig somewhere with Tina
Turner.
I was like, wow.
Tina Turner.
And what happened was she performed and then
another two artists performed and then Iperformed and then my music stopped, the
(29:14):
backdrop fell onto my dancers.
It was like and I carried on singing.
I was singing like a bella because everythingjust turned itself off and nothing was working
and the stage was falling.
And Tina Turner came up to me after in a VIP
room.
She goes, well done.
I said, oh, thank you so much.
(29:34):
I thought I was going to get educated or
something, because it was all going wrong.
She laughed her head off.
But there are so many things that you have.
There's also people who actually love
themselves and sign autographs.
They will just stay in the VIP area and they
won't sign autographs.
I don't like people like that at all, because
those people that want you to sign theautographs, they're the people buying your
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music.
Yeah, there's a lot of people that I've met
like that, who I once I've worked out thatthey absolutely love themselves and they think
they're special.
I sort of don't really associate myself with
them, do you know what I mean?I just hang around with the nice people, and
it's normally the A listers that are the nicepeople, and it's the Z Listers that are an
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absolute nightmare.
And London, I had a lovely, beautiful dressing
room next to Jennifer Lopez, and this artistwho just come onto the scene, had the TV and
papers and stuff like that, no names, just waslike, oh, yeah, dressing room is too small.
(30:42):
And I was thinking what?So I said, you know what?
You can have my dressing room.
I'm just going to get changed in the toilets.
And I have people with me who just looked atme in shock to say, what?
And I was like, yeah, I can literally getchanged in the toilets.
It's absolutely no problem at all.
Got changed, came out, got my hair and makeup
done in another room.
Stylist did whatever she did and I went on
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stage.
And that's how I think it should be.
Not this attitude of demanding this anddemanding that.
It's just what is on the rider.
There was a famous rock and roll group, very
famous, who wanted certain colors.
Martin (31:19):
Of M and M. Yeah, I'm reading your mind.
I was thinking of it also.
Yeah.
What is that list call that you give?
Maria (31:29):
And I was literally at this event and these people wanted that, and this poor
person, this runner, was taken out, the M, andthere's so many things like that.
Oh, they want the temperature, they want thecolor of the walls different, painted.
And I literally would just have a kettle.
(31:49):
I'd have some hot water and some honey, and
that'd be it.
And a towel, and that be it.
And I said, if you don't have any of that,don't worry about it, I'll bring it.
And that's how I think you should be.
I think you should appreciate the journey and
not think you're a king or a queen, becausethere's a lot of egos that goes about, and I
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think with social media as well, becauseeveryone's taking selfies and filming this and
filming that, there's too many egos, do youknow what I mean?
And it's just a job.
And I think most people, special people, are
people like doctors who save lives.
They're the.
People that should be praised.
(32:34):
Not a pop star and definitely not a
footballer.
Martin (32:38):
Yeah. And when we could talk about that, you're on this ego show now called Ego
net cost.
But I see it as a philosophical meaning.
Like ego I am.
And you have to understand your true self.
But I hear what you're saying.
It's lots of people out there that maybe don't
have their own self.
It's only a surface and so on.
(32:59):
And footballer, we could joke about thatbecause of the soccer thing.
And I'm not so much into sports, but I likeAmerican football.
And there you see the coach is doing thestrategy and the teams, and they know the
different position and division of labor, butit could be very hyped and hoarse.
(33:20):
But it's interesting to see what's going on.
So, what's next on your journey, Maria?
Maria (33:27):
Okay, so obviously we've got the tracks at now and then they get in played, as I said,
on Miami Music Week, on stages, several stagesat Miami Music Week and after parties, which
is phenomenal.
I've got a film that I'm filming.
It's an anime film in Canada.
(33:47):
So done the script reading, which takes hours
and hours and hours.
At the end of it, you're so, like, are we done
yet?Not yet.
Okay, let's do some more and then.
Martin (34:04):
We could export it to Mexico.
Right.
Menu it will be correct listing.
Maria (34:09):
Yeah, imagine that.
So we got the film, we've got more tracks
obviously coming out.
And the pressure is on for me to look a
certain way, because don't forget, I was asize four before, so that's a UK size.
So at the moment I'm a UK size ten.
(34:30):
Because I've just enjoyed life and I've just
enjoyed being normal and being a mom.
Yeah, thanks.
But now the pressure nobody's asking me to,but for me, because I am a bit of a
perfectionist when it comes to image andalways look your best and always your best.
So, yeah, I'm in the gym twice a day now.
Martin (34:54):
Do you take some rest also between the gym?
Maria (34:56):
Right, I just rest.
No, because my big boy tells me to do that.
You're right.
But no, I'm doing more cardio just to burn and
for fitness because of stage.
So it's really important.
I cannot just stand there, Martin, and justsing.
I have to move.
I have to move.
And because of my BPM on, my music is so fast.
(35:19):
You obviously have to move fast.
So the dancing is quick.
I have to get my cardio up, which is good.
I performed at UK Glamour Awards recently andI wasn't out of breath, so that's a good
thing.
So I'm doing the right thing in the gym.
Martin (35:40):
Good to hear.
Maria (35:41):
Thank you.
Martin (35:44):
Yeah, well, that's great.
And you have to then send me later on things
so we could promote this podcast episode inthe future in different ways.
So it was great to talk to you.
And thanks again to Yonat and all for reaching
out and arranging this.
And thanks for your team there and the
management and others.
(36:04):
So, is it anything else you want to say, like
shout out or something else about thecyberspace there or the music industry that
you want to shout.
Maria (36:15):
Out to your listeners? Love your country, I love your people, I love
your food.
You guys, to me, are one of the nicest people
in the world.
Martin (36:27):
I say I am an American in spirit, but I hear you.
And have you been in Sweden?
Maria (36:33):
Yes, whereabout a lot of people think I'm Swedish and they used to speak to me in
Scandinavian, like Henry Maria, when you'replugging music and you're going here, there
(36:54):
and everywhere.
I didn't get to visit your country and I
really want to visit it instead of going fromthe plane to the hotel to the state to the
hotel back on the plane.
But everybody were really friendly to me and
the Danish as well.
They are so kind.
I think people from up north are really,really friendly.
Martin (37:16):
Maybe because it's a bit close.
We have a bond and relation to United Kingdom
and England and whatnot, so of course it'sclose by.
Maria (37:30):
Do you ski?
Martin (37:32):
No, I do off to ski.
I don't ski.
Yeah, do you ski?
Maria (37:39):
Yeah, I love skiing.
I love the snow.
Martin (37:41):
Like snowboarding or downhill?
Maria (37:44):
No, see, I want to learn to snowboard.
I've never done it.
Skiing, literally skiing.
I got stuck on the black pist.
Martin (37:54):
Which is because I was not sounds dangerous.
Maria (37:57):
Yeah, exactly.
Martin.
I wasn't good enough to get onto the blackslopes, but I went on there by accident, so
ended up just sliding down at the bottom.
Martin (38:07):
I hope you had a helmet then.
Maria (38:09):
No, that's the thing, I didn't have a helmet on, but definitely when I go skiing
again, I will put a helmet on.
Martin (38:16):
Good wet.
You have to be safe.
I have a friend who is really from Hungary nowhe's in Spain and I see some of his videos and
what he's doing when he is doing snowboarding.
It looks very fascinating.
Maria (38:32):
Yeah, you got fast.
Martin (38:37):
So what's happening in your area, then?
Where you are located?Of course, you are a traveler.
Any highlights from there on your locals?Do you have performances and gigs nearby also?
Maria (38:51):
Yes, I've got a company that is arranging, you know, where they do the radio
plugin, the club tours, the circuit inEngland, so we're doing the circuit in the UK
and then obviously all over.
And I don't know if you know that I have a
radio show that I do with ABC, which is thebiggest American radio show in America.
(39:15):
It's massive.
And I with a guy called Aaron and I'm the show
biz host.
Yeah, thanks.
I love it.
Martin (39:24):
Could you listen to that online, or.
Maria (39:26):
Is it yeah, literally, I mean, it's on ABC, but also it's on YouTube.
If you just literally Google Maria Rubia,aaron Sanchez ABC it'll come up or Maria Rubia
radio show will come up.
But yeah, it's really nice because you get the
vibe from what's going on in America andwhat's gone on in the world.
(39:49):
I just love radio.
I think it's just amazing.
Even me in my car, I can tune into somebodysome radio station abroad and I love that.
Martin (40:04):
Great podcast for since 2006.
I started this one.
Maria (40:10):
Wow. How many listeners do you have?
Martin (40:13):
Yeah, that's a good question.
I will send you the stats when I get that
question.
I want to have it in perspective because
people listen to big TV shows or radioservices and so on.
Do you know what the average or download perepisode of all the podcasts out there?
And it's listed like 4 million, maybe 500,000are active.
(40:37):
But do you know the average download for thepodcast out there?
No, it's like about 150 downloads and thatmaybe doesn't sound much, but it's like an
active choice that I want to listen to thisepisode here with Maria and plug your
earphones in your ears and listen.
(40:58):
So I often say that think if you would have
like 150 people in a room listen to you andlisten to the conversation so I could have
that 150 individuals, you don't know exactlywho it is and in a way it's good with privacy.
But of course if they reach out and getcomments and you could share what I was
talking about, how you could be supported byBoostograms and Telegrams like this podcast in
(41:23):
2.0. I really look forward to that in thefuture so you could spread the good word.
It's a small show, it's a philosophical showand also now with artists and so on.
But I've been doing it for a long time and Ihave several podcasts in different topics and
different areas and also helping individualsand companies and brands to start their
(41:48):
podcast.
It's great to hear that you're liking a radio
or on radio.
So we have to exchange ideas and information
about that also.
Maria (41:58):
Yeah, well, send me your links and I'll promote your podcasters to the Max.
Martin (42:03):
Yeah, wow, thanks.
I appreciate that.
Maria (42:07):
Well, thank you having me on your on your podcast.
I really appreciate it.
Martin (42:12):
Yeah, and thanks for taking your time and we'll talk soon again, Maria.
Maria (42:16):
So thank you.
Martin (42:18):
Do you have any ending fort notes or something like that?
Maria (42:22):
Please download my songs and enjoy.
They have different meanings for different
people.
So one person may cry when they listen to
song, another person may dance.
Yeah, I think that's the best interpretation
for a song.
It can have different meanings to different
people, which I think is really cool.
(42:42):
So thank you so much for your time and thank
you so much for having me on your amazingpodcast and you've been really lovely.
Martin (42:50):
Interviewing thank you for your kind words.
And I say call to action.
Download a new podcast app on
newpodcastapps.com or podcastapps.com.
Maria (43:04):
Okay.
Martin (43:05):
Listen to this episode and yeah, spread the good word.
So thanks again, Maria.
Maria (43:10):
Thank you, our ram.
Ego net cost.
Welcome to Ego net cost.
I am Martin Lindeskog and this will be episode130.
And today I have a guest here.
Hello, Maria Rubia.
Maria (00:16):
Hi, how are you?
Martin (00:18):
I'm fine.
Yourself?
What's on your mind?
Maria (00:22):
I love your accent.
Martin (00:23):
You could do yeah, thanks.
Maria (00:25):
All day.
Martin (00:26):
Is it Queen's English or American English?
Maria (00:31):
What I'm speaking now yeah, it's Queen English and I Swedish.
Martin (00:39):
Yeah, it could be that swingish Swedish.
Maria (00:43):
English with a very nice Swedish accent.
Martin (00:45):
Thanks.
So talking about that, have you seen The
Muppet Show?And The Swedish Chef?
Maria (00:53):
No.
Martin (00:54):
Then you definitely should check out a song called Popcorn.
You know the classic synth electronic popmusic that was like buttery pop popcorn.
And the Swedish Chef in The Muppet Show.
He's talking like, boom, boom, boom.
It's not Swedish, but it's that very finkySwedish.
It's so funny.
He's making popcorn and shrimp together.
(01:16):
Totally hilarious music video, but it's withthis popcorn song.
And we will talk about your music and happymusic.
And thanks to and shout out to Yonathan Dahlthat told me about you and asked if it would
(01:38):
be interesting to have you as a guest on theshow.
And I have had, I think it's ten individualsright now, artists that I have had on Egonet
Cost.
Here my podcast, so that's great.
So thanks for taking your time here, Maria.
And we can start out with that.
Your fans, they are called Rubies likeprecious dough, right?
Maria (02:02):
Yes, but I don't like the word fans because I just think it's just silly.
I think we're all fame, you know what I mean?
Martin (02:10):
Right, yeah.
Maria (02:12):
Because to me, they're very precious, thank God.
All over the world.
And I was getting a lot of messages on my
Instagram saying, happy Women's InternationalDay yesterday, which I thought, they're so
kind, they don't need to send me that message.
It was just really lovely.
Yeah, they're literally from all over theworld.
(02:34):
I mean, I've had soldiers stuck up mountainsfor work whilst they were doing a battle, and
one was depressed and he said it was my songsthat kept him going.
And I was like, wow, that to me is so special.
Martin (02:49):
Yeah. So let's talk about special.
When I did a search on Your Name Here, I found
like 61,000 hits on Google.
I haven't searched an alternative search
engine like Doctor Go.
I often do that also, but I checked that and
the first one, and we'll talk about a littleabout marketing and how to be found on the net
(03:12):
for an artist and record labors and others.
It was a Wikipedia entry with you and then it
was a link to your official page so we couldstart out that from a gecko.
Could you tell the listeners where to find youin cyberspace on your own page?
Maria (03:29):
Yes. Thank you.
Because I basically got all of my socials
hacked, some deleted, and there is one outthere that is not my official page.
So we've now set up a website so that, thankGod, is like at the top of the when you Google
it, it comes to the top and it'swww.mariarubiaofficial.com.
(03:53):
And that's got all of my socials, my realsocials on there because there are some out
there that are fake.
And also there are some producers that have
said, oh, Maria Rubio has sung on this song.
I've not sung on that song.
And he also says that I've been in a Mexicanfilm.
I've never been in a Mexican film.
(04:14):
So there's a lot of mistakes and false
information on the internet, so just be verycareful.
Martin (04:22):
Good. And I like that advice.
As a new media advisor, I said, be careful out
there and double check.
And then I also see opportunities as a new
media advisor to help along with this.
Because if you create content like blog posts
or videos, podcasts and so on, you will comeup off the top in the long run.
(04:45):
And that's like the Wikipedia, it's very goodthat it is an official way there and also
linked to official, because I found Facebook,as you said, Twitter and others.
And I was wondering, is that the real deal oris it somebody else or is it something that
was in the past and so on.
So it's good that you have mentioned that on
your website there.
Also I see lots of information there and I see
(05:07):
potential for that website.
Also what you could do in the future.
Maria (05:11):
Because even on the Wikipedia, there's misinformation on there.
People that are just adding stuff onto myWikipedia.
Martin (05:20):
Yeah, because they could edit it.
Maria (05:22):
Yeah, it's not the truth.
I don't think Wikipedia should allow Tom Dick
and Harry to just add stuff on there becauseit's not the case.
People I don't know are just adding stuff ontoWikipedia.
So I don't bother with Wikipedia.
I don't bother with even looking anymore
because there's a lot of things that is notcorrect.
So, yeah, the website has got all the correctinformation.
(05:44):
It's got all of the songs.
We are doing a YouTube channel and all of
that.
So all of that information is correct.
Martin (05:55):
That's good.
And that will be interesting when you search
for something and how you work with socialmedia and new media.
So I liked what you said on the page whereGoogle got the go.
You said about the vocals there and thecredits that you want to have credits when his
credit is due, but you want to have it in thecorrect way so that we could come to your
(06:18):
latest song.
Is that a piece of the puzzle to how to get
out there in the cyberspace and how to getthrough to your Rubies and others?
Of course you meet them at the concerts, youhave contact with them in different ways, but
do you see that as a challenge?I know that you have a management team and you
have the record label, you have guys likeYonaton and others that are promoting you and
(06:42):
so on.
What's your thoughts on this as an artist?
Maria (06:45):
Yes. So when all of my socials got hacked, you literally rely on your socials for
everything.
And I was communicating with a lot of people,
business people, via my socials.
So when they got hacked and my TikTok got
deleted first, and I was like, okay, well,that's not that important.
(07:08):
I can do another one.
But my Twitter had a lot of followers.
I'm talking a lot.
And I've been with Twitter since 2014.
And the sad thing is that Twitter has nocustomer service, zero Instagram, Spotify, all
of that.
Yes, but Twitter, no. And we keep getting bot
(07:29):
emails, and they're like, oh, because there'san impersonation official Maria Rubia page,
which has nothing to do with me.
And we told them about it, and they're like,
oh, we need your ID.
Well, I don't have ID in my stage name.
That's my stay's name.
And they're like, oh, yeah.
And it's the same message, bot email that theysend at the end.
(07:53):
You just give up.
So I'm not on Twitter anymore.
I've just got my team on Twitter, so mymanagement and then there's Maria Rubio
updates.
But that's it.
That's it, because otherwise it's just you canget stressed about it.
You're like, oh, my gosh, you're a massivecompany.
But the company is too big for me.
What has happened to me?
(08:13):
Twitter is too big because it doesn't go tothe problem, which is bad.
So my management literally are writing to ElonMusk about it because it's just unacceptable.
Yeah, so that's why we set up the website,because that's a point of contact that can't
get hacked, the company, and then people cango onto it.
(08:38):
You can then reach to the people out there whoenjoy music.
And spotify artists is absolutely fantastic.
It's very professional.
And if there's a tiny little thing that youdon't get, you contact them.
Their customer service is on point.
So that's how it needs to be an Instagram as
well.
They're very good TikTok.
(08:59):
Yeah, I love TikTok, but I'm not a person thattakes selfies all day, every day or videos.
My personal life, I follow a lot of people whodo that, and that's their thing.
But with me, I'm extremely private with mychildren, with my private life, because I
think it's really important to have thatseparation.
So I've got far less followers than if I wasliterally filming myself all day, every day,
(09:25):
filming myself swimming and when I'm eatingand all that, I would have a lot more.
But that's the choice that I've made, is thatI like to stay private.
And the only thing that I like to put outthere is the music.
You do photo shoots, so that's the model in mewhen I do photo shoots, then that goes in
(09:48):
magazines or then I will add that to mysocials.
But that's business, that's not my life, ifthat makes sense.
Martin (09:56):
Yeah. Tough.
So that's good decision, I think.
And I am a cat person.
I will talk about food also.
I often ask you about that question.
And you're in England, right?
So do you drink tea?
Maria (10:13):
Oh, no, I've never drunk tea.
No, that stains your teeth.
That's not good for you.
No, green tea is very good for you.
It's good for your insides.
But no, I just drink water or smoothies.
I am definitely a cat and a dog person.
So we have a little cat called Cuddles, which
(10:35):
we absolutely love, and we are actually goingto get a little puppy, a cockapoo.
That's the choice of my little one calledBailey.
He's eight years old.
Martin (10:46):
Yeah.
Maria (10:46):
He chooses what he wants and he hand color.
What is your cat called?
Martin (10:54):
Robin.
So he's a red.
Yeah.
It's nice.
And your record company, it's dogs, right?
Maria (11:06):
Yes. So they're called Crazy Dog Records and have a dog that they absolutely
love, and they put it in my pop videos.
I think it's the mascot of the record company
and, yeah, they absolutely love their doggie,so that's fair enough.
You respect that.
That's their mascot.
(11:26):
And, yeah, they love him to bits.
I can't remember his name.
I can't remember, say, he or she.
I went into the studio and the dog was there
and I met David's wife and lovely people.
The PR company that I'm using is called Power
Promotions and they're plug in all of thesongs that we've got out.
We've got free out at the moment.
(11:46):
And my Traps again played in Miami Music Week
on the 21st, which is fantastic.
So the record company is excited, I'm excited.
The PR company, Power Promotions, they've beengoing for 30 years, so they are very kind and
they've done it at mates rates.
(12:07):
We call it in English, so not too expensive.
They're very kind to us.
My mum and dad paid them, which was kind of my
mum and dad.
But, yeah, you know, it's like you get
feedback from DJs, so the DJs are enjoying thesongs and they are downloading it.
(12:28):
So that's really good.
We 8.6 million downloads on Spotify alone.
Wow, thank you.
And seven point it's going up every week by
100,000 views.
It's 7.5 million views on YouTube.
So, yeah.
So thank you to everyone that's out.
(12:49):
And it's gone viral on TikTok.
We got to my surprise, that was the Big
Brother theme tune that's gone viral onTikTok.
And also, every time you need me has goneviral.
So that's the power.
Martin (13:05):
Is that the one? Because I listen when I search on Apple Music,
we'll talk about the different how you couldget out there.
I remember the day with vinyl and so on, howyou could listen to music and how you could
get paid.
So I did a search on Apple Music and I found
the one that you mentioned there.
(13:26):
Could you tell a little about that?
Because then you got like Silver was it recordthanks to this Fragma thing.
Was that the first hit, so to speak?Or have you done other tunes before that?
Maria (13:42):
No, so I did theater before that, but I was in university and I've modeled since 13
years old.
So I was like in magazines and TV adverts and
things like that.
But I was myself going to meetings with
businessmen at the age of 16 1718.
(14:06):
And imagine a young girl, long blonde hair,
slim, who was having business meetings withmen who just wanted to eat me up, I think in
their forty s. And they wouldn't take meseriously.
And I was like, okay, well because I reallywanted them to take me seriously.
So my attitude was, no, I'm not going to sleepwith you, because that was quite normal.
(14:31):
So they would say, oh, well, if you date me, Ican give you this, or if you're my mistress, I
can give you this, and I can get your recorddeal, blah, blah, blah.
And none of that was happening, I will not dothat.
So I would just go, oh, thank you.
And then I just say, okay, I'm going to go
now.
And then I would leave politely and that would
(14:52):
be the end of the meeting.
So I sieved through all of the I'd call them
perverts, weirdos, or Opportunists, whateveryou want to call them.
And no, I didn't sleep with anyone to get towhere I was because that's my self respect, I
think.
And that's just how I was brought up, is you
(15:14):
keep yourself to yourself and business isbusiness and that's completely separate.
So, yeah, I was in university and then I hadmeetings, good meetings, not meetings like
that, good meetings where they meant business.
And I would sing down the phone to them and
then they said, oh, fragment.
(15:35):
I've just had a number one and are interested
in flying you over to the studio.
Imagine university and over.
And they've just had a number one, and I waslistening to it on the radio.
So anyway, cut long story short, yeah, I wentthere.
I was really nervous, didn't think I got it.
Mom and dad were like, did you get it,
darling?I said, I don't think so.
(15:57):
And they were like, oh, they were moredisappointed than me.
And then I got the phone call and then I gotit, and I was like, oh my God.
Yeah.
And then it happens really fast, doesn't it?
You know what happens when you're famoushappens very fast.
So 1 minute you're not getting recognized,next minute you are, you're doing a pop video,
(16:18):
you're signing autographs, and it's anavalanche.
And I was getting like two to 4 hours sleep.
The promotion was incredible.
It was very professional.
I was with EMI who treated me amazingly well,
and fragment were amazing.
I'm still in contact with them now and it was
(16:40):
just done perfectly.
It's all I can explain.
And my tour manager, et cetera.
I had a lovely team around me.
And then off the back of that, we did theother song.
So, yeah, I did the Big Brother theme tuneForever in a Day.
And then I did Akira, Here Comes the Rainagain.
So the guy from Eurythmics, he gave us yeah,David, he gave us the thumbs up.
(17:05):
He liked the vocals, so that was an honor.
And then I wrote say it.
When I was stuck on the motorway, you know,when there's accidents on the motorway, I was
like, oh.
And then this song came to me.
I was like, oh, my God, I got to write it downquick.
And then, yeah, it just carried on from thereand I was Mummy.
So I ended up in a wheelchair with Brandon.
(17:28):
I couldn't walk because he nearly died inside
of me.
He got stuck, yeah.
And so I had seconds to get him out becausehis heart rate was dropping.
And then when he came out, he wasn'tbreathing, so they hid him from me and it was
crazy.
Like, you expect the baby to cry.
(17:49):
Why is the baby crying?And I saw my mum really pale, so after that, I
couldn't walk.
Basically, I'd broken my synthesis pubists
bone that I'd never heard of before.
I was like, what is that?
They're like, yeah, you've broken it, yousnapped it.
So I didn't walk for two and a half years andthen it was just lovely being Mummy.
(18:11):
And I had lots of phone calls for work, but Iwent from size four to a size 18 because I
just couldn't move.
It wasn't like I was eating cakes or anything.
I just couldn't move.
I literally was on the sofa six months.
I had baby on my back, like an African woman,and I would crawl to get baby stuff and say,
(18:34):
he was catered for.
It was an experience, but it made me
appreciate people in wheelchairs, because whenyou're not in a wheelchair, you don't
understand.
But when you're in a wheelchair and you're
just trying to go down the pavements andthings like that, there are so many things
that you can't get into, like restaurants andshops and things like that.
(18:54):
The doorways are too small, or there's bumpsand things like that.
So, yeah, it made me sympathize a lot withwheelchair users.
That was the positive.
Martin (19:08):
That'S this accessibility and so on.
And there you have it on the Internet, also to
be able to read things on the net and also tolisten to music and podcasts.
We'll talk more about your song, where you hadalso, like, a club remix of a band.
(19:30):
Could you tell a little bit about that?
Maria (19:32):
There are loads of club mixes out there from wonderful people.
I've never met or never heard of or celeb DJsalso.
But I found one a couple of days ago that I'veadded onto my website, which is absolutely
banging.
It's so strong.
I love it.
I played it to my children in the car and they
were dancing about in the car.
(19:55):
I love that people just take your music and
just flip it and twist it and do their owncreativity.
That's the joy about music.
I just love it.
And yeah, you mentioned silver disc.
We got a silver disc and a gold disc with
every time you need me.
And what happened was last year it got put on
(20:18):
Love Island UK.
Excuse me, my voice is going, Love Island UK.
And I didn't know anything about it.
And Fragment had been trying to contact me for
the past couple of years, but I changed mynumber, I've moved, blah, blah.
So then they just released it and then I had alot of messages on my phone like, oh my gosh,
(20:42):
your song is playing Love Island UK.
And I'm like, what?
No, I don't have anything out.
I don't know what you're talking about.
And then I checked it, okay?And then it's funny how the Internet helps you
because then on my new Twitter, I basicallyput, oh, thank you so much for having me on
(21:04):
your show, blah, blah.
And then I hashtag Fragma, and then Fragma
found me from that tweet and then we startedconversing again and they were like, We've
been trying to find you for years.
I'm like oh, my God.
I'm so sorry.
Martin (21:18):
That's good.
Maria (21:19):
Yeah, we're talking about doing another song together, which I think would be really
lovely for the rubies out there and for peopleout there.
Yeah, I mean, club mixes for me are the bestbecause they're played in clubs and people can
really have a good dance with them becausethey're faster and they're stronger.
Martin (21:42):
Yeah, that's good.
And I have some ideas that maybe it could be
interesting for you and the management andothers, and that's how you could support
artists directly, also with something calledthe Value for Value model bits of bitcoin
called Satoshis.
And also that you could send like a boostogram
(22:04):
or telegram and give your appreciation andthank you note to the artist.
I will include that in show notes.
It's one project called The Music Side Project
and another called Wave Lake WA v. Lake.
And it's interesting to see because back in
(22:27):
the day when the record companies and thestores selling vinyls and now it's streaming
mostly, but also it's interesting to see that,as you said, the DDA coming back and they are
mixing and they are using the old recordsagain.
But it must be a challenge as an artist to getthe royalties and get the streaming, as you
(22:51):
said, and also when it's concerts andmerchandise and all this kind of thing.
So I think that we'll see new alternatives andnew ways.
And also to give like credit, as you said, ifyou have every individually in the chain, it
could be, as you said, the remixes, it couldbe studio musicians, it could be marketing, it
could be album art, could be lyrics, etcetera, et cetera.
Maria (23:15):
Yeah, definitely.
I think that's a wonderful idea.
Martin (23:19):
Yeah. And now you are bilingual also.
I have heard you talking in French in one
song, but also Spanish, right?Yeah, Spanish radio station the other day.
Maria (23:35):
I speak more than two languages.
I love languages.
I'm currently learning Mandarin and I'mrevising my Italian.
There's Kiara.
I don't know if you know, she's extremely
famous in the fashion world.
I've been listening to her on Netflix.
(23:57):
She's got a documentary out in Italian andthen I've got my subtitles.
And it's so funny how when I was in the bath,I was just singing in Italian and all the
Italian words coming back.
So I love languages.
I'm not keen on maths, but I love languages.
Martin (24:15):
That's great.
So when you come up with, as I said, the song
and lyrics, could you then tell about thelatest one?
As I said, the pieces of a puzzle there.
Maria (24:27):
Pieces Of My Life is a song that was written by David, who for me is a talented
producer and okay, he co wrote it with someother guys, but he's the only guy that I met.
So it's a very clever song.
It's a beautiful song.
(24:48):
For me, it's the number one, not because I'msinging the vocals on it, but because without
Just as, it is just a demo, it's the numberone hit.
And I think it should be in films, I think itshould be in adverts, because it's just such a
lovely song.
When I got sent it, my big boy, Brandon said,
wow, Mum, that is the best song you'vereceived in years.
(25:11):
And I said, I totally agree.
I need to get into the studio and get the
vocals down on that because it's so lovely.
So that's out Pieces of My Life and obviously
on Spotify Artists and on all the other socialplatforms.
And then Eye of the Storm, also written byDavid, is out now.
(25:32):
So Pieces of My Life is more of a pop ballad,but the club mixes are really cool as well.
And then you've got either Storm, that's moreof a pop, which is really good song that gets
you going, like when you're in the car.
And club mixes are coming out with that
(25:55):
already as well, which is good.
And then we've got the Every Time You Need Me
2022 track, which is lovely, the one that gotplayed on Love Island UK.
So, yes, we got those at the moment.
And then we've got the others, obviously,
because it's mad.
They're coming back, like I said, Forever in a
Day, it's gone viral on TikTok.
(26:15):
So that's the beauty of music.
There's no limit to you play a track and thenit will just be liked by a certain person and
it gets played.
And that's why I love music so much.
Martin (26:30):
It's funny when you said that word no Limit, I listened to Two Unlimited and the
song no Limit the other day and it's funny tosee them there in a way, maybe some other
singers and so on.
I think Anita was one of the earlier about the
band and they are touring and it'sinteresting.
(26:51):
And same thing like with Rosala that I havehad on my podcast here, yonatandal arranged.
She had been in business for is it over 30years now.
Maria (27:05):
I met her at I can't remember where we were because, you know, you go to so many
events, but we were in a VIP area.
All I remember is this.
And then there was a guy who had like blacktrousers, white shirt and then a black
waistcoat.
So I thought the waiter.
So I sat next to Rosala and I was like I askedthe guy if he would give me a drink.
(27:32):
Rosala started laughing and she goes, do youknow who that is?
The waiter?And she goes, That's Jason Donovan.
You've just asked him to get you a drink.
Martin (27:45):
What's a good one.
Maria (27:48):
What? Oh, no. Oh my God.
What happened?He doesn't look the same.
And that's when he was going through a bit ofa tough time, let's put it that way.
Which he would admit himself.
And I said I thought he was the waiter.
And Rosalis died laughing ahead off.
And Elton John comes in and I go, I can't
(28:09):
believe I've just asked Jason Donovan thinkinghe was a waiter, to go and get me a lemonade.
And Elton John was laughing his head off.
And then Jason Donovan comes back with the
lemonade and he goes, oh, here you go.
And I go, I am so sorry.
I am so sorry.
I literally thought you were a waiter.
I didn't recognize you with your hair likethat.
And he goes, he took it really funny.
(28:31):
But I said, oh my gosh, what a nice man to
literally go and get me.
That was a little funny story that I'll never
forget.
Martin (28:43):
Yeah, that's a funny story.
That's good.
Do you have any other stories to share?And then also, of course, tell about your
future plans.
Maria (28:52):
Oh my God, there are so many.
When I met I did a gig somewhere with Tina
Turner.
I was like, wow.
Tina Turner.
And what happened was she performed and then
another two artists performed and then Iperformed and then my music stopped, the
(29:14):
backdrop fell onto my dancers.
It was like and I carried on singing.
I was singing like a bella because everythingjust turned itself off and nothing was working
and the stage was falling.
And Tina Turner came up to me after in a VIP
room.
She goes, well done.
I said, oh, thank you so much.
(29:34):
I thought I was going to get educated or
something, because it was all going wrong.
She laughed her head off.
But there are so many things that you have.
There's also people who actually love
themselves and sign autographs.
They will just stay in the VIP area and they
won't sign autographs.
I don't like people like that at all, because
those people that want you to sign theautographs, they're the people buying your
(29:58):
music.
Yeah, there's a lot of people that I've met
like that, who I once I've worked out thatthey absolutely love themselves and they think
they're special.
I sort of don't really associate myself with
them, do you know what I mean?I just hang around with the nice people, and
it's normally the A listers that are the nicepeople, and it's the Z Listers that are an
(30:21):
absolute nightmare.
And London, I had a lovely, beautiful dressing
room next to Jennifer Lopez, and this artistwho just come onto the scene, had the TV and
papers and stuff like that, no names, just waslike, oh, yeah, dressing room is too small.
(30:42):
And I was thinking what?So I said, you know what?
You can have my dressing room.
I'm just going to get changed in the toilets.
And I have people with me who just looked atme in shock to say, what?
And I was like, yeah, I can literally getchanged in the toilets.
It's absolutely no problem at all.
Got changed, came out, got my hair and makeup
done in another room.
Stylist did whatever she did and I went on
(31:05):
stage.
And that's how I think it should be.
Not this attitude of demanding this anddemanding that.
It's just what is on the rider.
There was a famous rock and roll group, very
famous, who wanted certain colors.
Martin (31:19):
Of M and M. Yeah, I'm reading your mind.
I was thinking of it also.
Yeah.
What is that list call that you give?
Maria (31:29):
And I was literally at this event and these people wanted that, and this poor
person, this runner, was taken out, the M, andthere's so many things like that.
Oh, they want the temperature, they want thecolor of the walls different, painted.
And I literally would just have a kettle.
(31:49):
I'd have some hot water and some honey, and
that'd be it.
And a towel, and that be it.
And I said, if you don't have any of that,don't worry about it, I'll bring it.
And that's how I think you should be.
I think you should appreciate the journey and
not think you're a king or a queen, becausethere's a lot of egos that goes about, and I
(32:12):
think with social media as well, becauseeveryone's taking selfies and filming this and
filming that, there's too many egos, do youknow what I mean?
And it's just a job.
And I think most people, special people, are
people like doctors who save lives.
They're the.
People that should be praised.
(32:34):
Not a pop star and definitely not a
footballer.
Martin (32:38):
Yeah. And when we could talk about that, you're on this ego show now called Ego
net cost.
But I see it as a philosophical meaning.
Like ego I am.
And you have to understand your true self.
But I hear what you're saying.
It's lots of people out there that maybe don't
have their own self.
It's only a surface and so on.
(32:59):
And footballer, we could joke about thatbecause of the soccer thing.
And I'm not so much into sports, but I likeAmerican football.
And there you see the coach is doing thestrategy and the teams, and they know the
different position and division of labor, butit could be very hyped and hoarse.
(33:20):
But it's interesting to see what's going on.
So, what's next on your journey, Maria?
Maria (33:27):
Okay, so obviously we've got the tracks at now and then they get in played, as I said,
on Miami Music Week, on stages, several stagesat Miami Music Week and after parties, which
is phenomenal.
I've got a film that I'm filming.
It's an anime film in Canada.
(33:47):
So done the script reading, which takes hours
and hours and hours.
At the end of it, you're so, like, are we done
yet?Not yet.
Okay, let's do some more and then.
Martin (34:04):
We could export it to Mexico.
Right.
Menu it will be correct listing.
Maria (34:09):
Yeah, imagine that.
So we got the film, we've got more tracks
obviously coming out.
And the pressure is on for me to look a
certain way, because don't forget, I was asize four before, so that's a UK size.
So at the moment I'm a UK size ten.
(34:30):
Because I've just enjoyed life and I've just
enjoyed being normal and being a mom.
Yeah, thanks.
But now the pressure nobody's asking me to,but for me, because I am a bit of a
perfectionist when it comes to image andalways look your best and always your best.
So, yeah, I'm in the gym twice a day now.
Martin (34:54):
Do you take some rest also between the gym?
Maria (34:56):
Right, I just rest.
No, because my big boy tells me to do that.
You're right.
But no, I'm doing more cardio just to burn and
for fitness because of stage.
So it's really important.
I cannot just stand there, Martin, and justsing.
I have to move.
I have to move.
And because of my BPM on, my music is so fast.
(35:19):
You obviously have to move fast.
So the dancing is quick.
I have to get my cardio up, which is good.
I performed at UK Glamour Awards recently andI wasn't out of breath, so that's a good
thing.
So I'm doing the right thing in the gym.
Martin (35:40):
Good to hear.
Maria (35:41):
Thank you.
Martin (35:44):
Yeah, well, that's great.
And you have to then send me later on things
so we could promote this podcast episode inthe future in different ways.
So it was great to talk to you.
And thanks again to Yonat and all for reaching
out and arranging this.
And thanks for your team there and the
management and others.
(36:04):
So, is it anything else you want to say, like
shout out or something else about thecyberspace there or the music industry that
you want to shout.
Maria (36:15):
Out to your listeners? Love your country, I love your people, I love
your food.
You guys, to me, are one of the nicest people
in the world.
Martin (36:27):
I say I am an American in spirit, but I hear you.
And have you been in Sweden?
Maria (36:33):
Yes, whereabout a lot of people think I'm Swedish and they used to speak to me in
Scandinavian, like Henry Maria, when you'replugging music and you're going here, there
(36:54):
and everywhere.
I didn't get to visit your country and I
really want to visit it instead of going fromthe plane to the hotel to the state to the
hotel back on the plane.
But everybody were really friendly to me and
the Danish as well.
They are so kind.
I think people from up north are really,really friendly.
Martin (37:16):
Maybe because it's a bit close.
We have a bond and relation to United Kingdom
and England and whatnot, so of course it'sclose by.
Maria (37:30):
Do you ski?
Martin (37:32):
No, I do off to ski.
I don't ski.
Yeah, do you ski?
Maria (37:39):
Yeah, I love skiing.
I love the snow.
Martin (37:41):
Like snowboarding or downhill?
Maria (37:44):
No, see, I want to learn to snowboard.
I've never done it.
Skiing, literally skiing.
I got stuck on the black pist.
Martin (37:54):
Which is because I was not sounds dangerous.
Maria (37:57):
Yeah, exactly.
Martin.
I wasn't good enough to get onto the blackslopes, but I went on there by accident, so
ended up just sliding down at the bottom.
Martin (38:07):
I hope you had a helmet then.
Maria (38:09):
No, that's the thing, I didn't have a helmet on, but definitely when I go skiing
again, I will put a helmet on.
Martin (38:16):
Good wet.
You have to be safe.
I have a friend who is really from Hungary nowhe's in Spain and I see some of his videos and
what he's doing when he is doing snowboarding.
It looks very fascinating.
Maria (38:32):
Yeah, you got fast.
Martin (38:37):
So what's happening in your area, then?
Where you are located?Of course, you are a traveler.
Any highlights from there on your locals?Do you have performances and gigs nearby also?
Maria (38:51):
Yes, I've got a company that is arranging, you know, where they do the radio
plugin, the club tours, the circuit inEngland, so we're doing the circuit in the UK
and then obviously all over.
And I don't know if you know that I have a
radio show that I do with ABC, which is thebiggest American radio show in America.
(39:15):
It's massive.
And I with a guy called Aaron and I'm the show
biz host.
Yeah, thanks.
I love it.
Martin (39:24):
Could you listen to that online, or.
Maria (39:26):
Is it yeah, literally, I mean, it's on ABC, but also it's on YouTube.
If you just literally Google Maria Rubia,aaron Sanchez ABC it'll come up or Maria Rubia
radio show will come up.
But yeah, it's really nice because you get the
vibe from what's going on in America andwhat's gone on in the world.
(39:49):
I just love radio.
I think it's just amazing.
Even me in my car, I can tune into somebodysome radio station abroad and I love that.
Martin (40:04):
Great podcast for since 2006.
I started this one.
Maria (40:10):
Wow. How many listeners do you have?
Martin (40:13):
Yeah, that's a good question.
I will send you the stats when I get that
question.
I want to have it in perspective because
people listen to big TV shows or radioservices and so on.
Do you know what the average or download perepisode of all the podcasts out there?
And it's listed like 4 million, maybe 500,000are active.
(40:37):
But do you know the average download for thepodcast out there?
No, it's like about 150 downloads and thatmaybe doesn't sound much, but it's like an
active choice that I want to listen to thisepisode here with Maria and plug your
earphones in your ears and listen.
(40:58):
So I often say that think if you would have
like 150 people in a room listen to you andlisten to the conversation so I could have
that 150 individuals, you don't know exactlywho it is and in a way it's good with privacy.
But of course if they reach out and getcomments and you could share what I was
talking about, how you could be supported byBoostograms and Telegrams like this podcast in
(41:23):
2.0. I really look forward to that in thefuture so you could spread the good word.
It's a small show, it's a philosophical showand also now with artists and so on.
But I've been doing it for a long time and Ihave several podcasts in different topics and
different areas and also helping individualsand companies and brands to start their
(41:48):
podcast.
It's great to hear that you're liking a radio
or on radio.
So we have to exchange ideas and information
about that also.
Maria (41:58):
Yeah, well, send me your links and I'll promote your podcasters to the Max.
Martin (42:03):
Yeah, wow, thanks.
I appreciate that.
Maria (42:07):
Well, thank you having me on your on your podcast.
I really appreciate it.
Martin (42:12):
Yeah, and thanks for taking your time and we'll talk soon again, Maria.
Maria (42:16):
So thank you.
Martin (42:18):
Do you have any ending fort notes or something like that?
Maria (42:22):
Please download my songs and enjoy.
They have different meanings for different
people.
So one person may cry when they listen to
song, another person may dance.
Yeah, I think that's the best interpretation
for a song.
It can have different meanings to different
people, which I think is really cool.
(42:42):
So thank you so much for your time and thank
you so much for having me on your amazingpodcast and you've been really lovely.
Martin (42:50):
Interviewing thank you for your kind words.
And I say call to action.
Download a new podcast app on
newpodcastapps.com or podcastapps.com.
Maria (43:04):
Okay.
Martin (43:05):
Listen to this episode and yeah, spread the good word.
So thanks again, Maria.
Maria (43:10):
Thank you, our ram.
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