July 18, 2024 • 14 mins
Edited version of my livestream session on June 28. What did you think about the debate between Joe Biden and Donald Trump? When will we see a real debate between a candidate from the Jackass party and a candidate from the Grand Old Party?
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Show notes with links to articles, blog posts, products and services:
- The Real Debate
- The Secular Foxhole
- Robert Begley
- The Real Debate dot com (on X)
- Inside 'The Real Debate' with RFK Jr.: Trump, Biden Haven't the Right to Wear Flag Pins
- John Stossel: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. isn’t much better than Joe Biden or Donald Trump
- John Stossel: Government and Freedom
- Live Now dot news
- James Cridland
- The Real Debate (on Rumble)
- Unwelcome at the Debate, RFK Jr.’s Star Shines on TikTok Live
- What people say today about the first televised presidential debate, between Nixon and JFK, doesn’t match first reactions in 1960
- 1960 United States presidential debates
Episode 132 (14 minutes) was recorded on June 28, 2024, by podcaster, Martin Lindeskog, with Boomcaster. Editing, post-production, and transcript with the podcast maker, Alitu. Notes to self written on Mod 1927 notecards. Bumper and jingle by Jim Jonsson, JTunes Productions.
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Martin (00:02):
Ego net cost.
Welcome to Ego Net cost live streaming.
I am Martin Lindeskop and this session will bethen an editing edited version, episode 132 of
(00:23):
Ego Net cost.
And it's middle.
I have some talking points here mid year, week26.
And in a way, I'm happy to start with ego Netcost.
Again, last episode or previous episode wasend of last year.
(00:44):
I been having plenty of podcasts running andego Net cost is my first podcast.
So now it's still first day in american time,it's Friday in swedish time, european time,
and then it's tourstog.
And that's first day.
(01:04):
Thorstag is with Thor God, norse God.
So that's in Swedish Thorsdog.
And I will use the Thor's hammer and ventilatea bit.
And I had to talk with my co host, Blair ofthe secular foxhole about the debate, the
(01:25):
debate night hash, debatenight on Twitter andother places.
And I was thinking of, should I watch this ornot?
And in a way, I'm happy that I did that.
And also, why did I watch it for 90 minutes?
Plus, I had recently invitation by RobertBeagley that had been a guest and returning
(01:49):
guest on the secular foxhole, thisprofessional speaker and also helping other
speakers.
So he has a course on the forum for speakers
elite forum.
And now I'll see here, it's live on air on
(02:09):
YouTube and LinkedIn.
And something is up with Facebook.
I don't know what, but I have to check withBoomcaster and Facebook settings.
So I was reflecting on that, on this debatebetween Trump and Biden and all the settings
(02:30):
and all the rules and specifications for thisdebate.
Of course, it's a challenge to then talk anddo talking points, questions from this panel
for 90 minutes without any like, show notesthat I'm showing now on live, like a note card
(02:54):
or some prompt for your memory and whatnot.
And then, of course, it's this back and forth
between two candidates, you could say, andopponents.
So, yeah, that's a challenge.
And why comment on this is, it's due to this
(03:17):
thing called freedom of expression, freedom ofspeech.
Free speech.
And to have a real debate.
This was a debate between two candidates,former president and the now president in
power.
And then it's the election year coming up
here, and who will run the country and becomea commander in chief for next four years.
(03:45):
And yeah, it's a sad state, you could say, andI will do an ending and reflect on history a
bit regarding debates.
When it started with television, in a way, it
got popular in the sixties so this issomething to ponder and think about.
And then in America, and I will talk moreabout this, how it is in Sweden and European
(04:09):
Union.
And we had recent elections very also that it
was with two candidates from Democratic Partyand the Republican Party, but no third parties
or independent candidates.
And CNN, it's a private company and they are
(04:30):
of course allowed and up to them to set therules for the debate.
And I think it's, is it ABC News that willhave the second one, if it will be one, but
then you have to show in order to be anotheropponent or candidate or speaker, you have to
have certain polls and surveys, certainamount, I think it was 1015 percent or whatnot
(04:58):
to reach that.
And then the whole system, in order to have in
all the districts and all the places to have acandidate being a candidate on the ballot that
is challenged.
So that's something to think about.
The whole system in America as we see it now.
And that will be interesting to hear from
(05:19):
experts and scholars and what will be thefuture here.
So now I'm thinking of talking about foraround 15 minutes and already talked for like,
yeah, five, six minutes here.
So, so what Robert F. Kennedy junior did,
because he is like an independent candidate, Ithink he's registered as a Democrat and he's a
(05:45):
bit of a character, you could say, with hisheritage and relatives and ancestors and the
political line there and in the debate.
I don't know if swedish mainstream media will
talk at all about him as a candidate and whathe wanted to do.
And you could listen to all, he's all over theplace.
(06:07):
But he set up a site called therealdebate.com.
and there he, John Stossel, that is alibertarian leaning individual.
And he has his own show.
He was on Fox News, I think now he's running
his own show on the Internet.
(06:29):
He was in the panel, you could say then, and
then Robert F. Kennedy junior commented onTrump and Biden's answers to the questions.
And so it took longer time with this one, youcould say.
And now I was watching the debate on somethingcalled, that's by James Critland.
(06:54):
He has a service called LiveNow News where youcould have click on different squares or
symbols or small windows, you could say, andthen a bigger window will open on the screen
and you could watch news.
So I watched the CNN live there and then on
(07:18):
the phone.
I drive then to watch go to the
realdebate.com.
and what's happened there?
They got some error message and maybe it wastraffic there and lots of visitors and
viewers, and it was also should be linked toTwitter or x there.
(07:42):
I also got an error message.
And then over time, they went to rumble the
video service so you could follow it where youhad the chat thing and comments and thumbs up
and down so you could follow that.
So I watched that at the end also.
(08:03):
And at the end, it's like these two minutes,they had this closing statement or remarks.
And then, of course, Robert F. Kennedy didthat.
And you all have to practice on your speakingskills.
And I'm doing that also myself.
So that's why I'm so thankful for Robert
Beagley inviting me to this forum and course,for speakers over a year, for a year time.
(08:30):
So with Biden, but with Seclus Vauxhall, my cohost Blair, he had a joke that is not so fun
in a way, when you think about it, but it'sgoing in the lines like one can't complete a
sentence and one is sentenced to jail.
So you hear Biden, his images and expressions,
(08:55):
facial expressions, having a hard timestumbling with the words.
And then you have Trump's way of doing thingswith his mimics and, yeah, doing his gestures
and so on.
And then you listen to Robert F. Kennedy.
I think he has some kind of issue or how doyou say, condition with his speech.
(09:22):
I don't know what it is, if it's somethingwith his throat or something.
It sounds very.
Yeah, a special thing to listen to.
So it was hard overall.
The thing that was the panel was because often
in tv studios, they could be very harsh.
And also that they ask you questions and don't
listen to the answer.
(09:43):
But there, I think it was pretty
straightforward.
And, of course, you could wonder about how
they pick these different questions.
And especially at the end, it was this, that
Trump was not answering that about if he willaccept the election and the results, and also
(10:05):
about this violence with the January 16 thathappened, with the storming of the capital and
so on.
I don't know if Joe Biden got that question.
They should get the same questions.
But I didn't watch that.
So that's something to think about.
And so I will continue doing this on
(10:29):
Thursdays, live streaming around 15 minutes,talking about stuff and ventilating a bit in a
civil manner.
But that's the good thing, again, that we have
freedom of expression and we could have adebate, discussion and discourse.
So at the end here, I will include in the shownotes when I edit the episode and post links
(10:55):
to an article in Wired magazine online aboutTikTok live and independent candidates and
third party candidates and how Robert Kennedyhave attracted viewers there.
And also reviews and summaries about thedebate.
(11:15):
That I will include.
And following along here as an end note here
is could you think about how the debate was tvdebate, television debate between Nixon versus
Kennedy in 1960s.
They're so called people who listen to the
(11:37):
radio and I will check with the survey.
But when they said Nixon so called one debate.
But when we saw him in the tv studio, we sawthat he was having these facial problems and
was on the spotlight in his face and all kindof things that they could you trust this
(12:01):
person?So when Kennedy was polished and his things,
so that was something that had lots ofanalysis and discussions about that and maybe
that have shaped the whole debate thing inmodern times.
And there something that maybe you could thinkabout with Trump and Biden, that you looked at
(12:25):
Biden and maybe thought that he looked likeNixon.
And when you looked like Trump, he's not samepolished as Kennedy, but he was very secure in
himself, even if he had his tics and jargon,his gestures.
(12:46):
So that's something to think about.
And then the whole discussion about this.
What will happen now before the election andwhat will Biden be the running person or will
Camilla Harris step in or somebody else?And also, Svend, is it time for third party
(13:10):
candidates to be in the debates also?In either way.
But I liked what they did with thisrealdebate.com and how you could use new media
in order to have your voice and have yoursaying so.
With that I say thanks for watching and talkto you soon again.
(13:33):
Bye for now.
Radhe ego net goddess.
Ego net cost.
Welcome to Ego Net cost live streaming.
I am Martin Lindeskop and this session will bethen an editing edited version, episode 132 of
(00:23):
Ego Net cost.
And it's middle.
I have some talking points here mid year, week26.
And in a way, I'm happy to start with ego Netcost.
Again, last episode or previous episode wasend of last year.
(00:44):
I been having plenty of podcasts running andego Net cost is my first podcast.
So now it's still first day in american time,it's Friday in swedish time, european time,
and then it's tourstog.
And that's first day.
(01:04):
Thorstag is with Thor God, norse God.
So that's in Swedish Thorsdog.
And I will use the Thor's hammer and ventilatea bit.
And I had to talk with my co host, Blair ofthe secular foxhole about the debate, the
(01:25):
debate night hash, debatenight on Twitter andother places.
And I was thinking of, should I watch this ornot?
And in a way, I'm happy that I did that.
And also, why did I watch it for 90 minutes?
Plus, I had recently invitation by RobertBeagley that had been a guest and returning
(01:49):
guest on the secular foxhole, thisprofessional speaker and also helping other
speakers.
So he has a course on the forum for speakers
elite forum.
And now I'll see here, it's live on air on
(02:09):
YouTube and LinkedIn.
And something is up with Facebook.
I don't know what, but I have to check withBoomcaster and Facebook settings.
So I was reflecting on that, on this debatebetween Trump and Biden and all the settings
(02:30):
and all the rules and specifications for thisdebate.
Of course, it's a challenge to then talk anddo talking points, questions from this panel
for 90 minutes without any like, show notesthat I'm showing now on live, like a note card
(02:54):
or some prompt for your memory and whatnot.
And then, of course, it's this back and forth
between two candidates, you could say, andopponents.
So, yeah, that's a challenge.
And why comment on this is, it's due to this
(03:17):
thing called freedom of expression, freedom ofspeech.
Free speech.
And to have a real debate.
This was a debate between two candidates,former president and the now president in
power.
And then it's the election year coming up
here, and who will run the country and becomea commander in chief for next four years.
(03:45):
And yeah, it's a sad state, you could say, andI will do an ending and reflect on history a
bit regarding debates.
When it started with television, in a way, it
got popular in the sixties so this issomething to ponder and think about.
And then in America, and I will talk moreabout this, how it is in Sweden and European
(04:09):
Union.
And we had recent elections very also that it
was with two candidates from Democratic Partyand the Republican Party, but no third parties
or independent candidates.
And CNN, it's a private company and they are
(04:30):
of course allowed and up to them to set therules for the debate.
And I think it's, is it ABC News that willhave the second one, if it will be one, but
then you have to show in order to be anotheropponent or candidate or speaker, you have to
have certain polls and surveys, certainamount, I think it was 1015 percent or whatnot
(04:58):
to reach that.
And then the whole system, in order to have in
all the districts and all the places to have acandidate being a candidate on the ballot that
is challenged.
So that's something to think about.
The whole system in America as we see it now.
And that will be interesting to hear from
(05:19):
experts and scholars and what will be thefuture here.
So now I'm thinking of talking about foraround 15 minutes and already talked for like,
yeah, five, six minutes here.
So, so what Robert F. Kennedy junior did,
because he is like an independent candidate, Ithink he's registered as a Democrat and he's a
(05:45):
bit of a character, you could say, with hisheritage and relatives and ancestors and the
political line there and in the debate.
I don't know if swedish mainstream media will
talk at all about him as a candidate and whathe wanted to do.
And you could listen to all, he's all over theplace.
(06:07):
But he set up a site called therealdebate.com.
and there he, John Stossel, that is alibertarian leaning individual.
And he has his own show.
He was on Fox News, I think now he's running
his own show on the Internet.
(06:29):
He was in the panel, you could say then, and
then Robert F. Kennedy junior commented onTrump and Biden's answers to the questions.
And so it took longer time with this one, youcould say.
And now I was watching the debate on somethingcalled, that's by James Critland.
(06:54):
He has a service called LiveNow News where youcould have click on different squares or
symbols or small windows, you could say, andthen a bigger window will open on the screen
and you could watch news.
So I watched the CNN live there and then on
(07:18):
the phone.
I drive then to watch go to the
realdebate.com.
and what's happened there?
They got some error message and maybe it wastraffic there and lots of visitors and
viewers, and it was also should be linked toTwitter or x there.
(07:42):
I also got an error message.
And then over time, they went to rumble the
video service so you could follow it where youhad the chat thing and comments and thumbs up
and down so you could follow that.
So I watched that at the end also.
(08:03):
And at the end, it's like these two minutes,they had this closing statement or remarks.
And then, of course, Robert F. Kennedy didthat.
And you all have to practice on your speakingskills.
And I'm doing that also myself.
So that's why I'm so thankful for Robert
Beagley inviting me to this forum and course,for speakers over a year, for a year time.
(08:30):
So with Biden, but with Seclus Vauxhall, my cohost Blair, he had a joke that is not so fun
in a way, when you think about it, but it'sgoing in the lines like one can't complete a
sentence and one is sentenced to jail.
So you hear Biden, his images and expressions,
(08:55):
facial expressions, having a hard timestumbling with the words.
And then you have Trump's way of doing thingswith his mimics and, yeah, doing his gestures
and so on.
And then you listen to Robert F. Kennedy.
I think he has some kind of issue or how doyou say, condition with his speech.
(09:22):
I don't know what it is, if it's somethingwith his throat or something.
It sounds very.
Yeah, a special thing to listen to.
So it was hard overall.
The thing that was the panel was because often
in tv studios, they could be very harsh.
And also that they ask you questions and don't
listen to the answer.
(09:43):
But there, I think it was pretty
straightforward.
And, of course, you could wonder about how
they pick these different questions.
And especially at the end, it was this, that
Trump was not answering that about if he willaccept the election and the results, and also
(10:05):
about this violence with the January 16 thathappened, with the storming of the capital and
so on.
I don't know if Joe Biden got that question.
They should get the same questions.
But I didn't watch that.
So that's something to think about.
And so I will continue doing this on
(10:29):
Thursdays, live streaming around 15 minutes,talking about stuff and ventilating a bit in a
civil manner.
But that's the good thing, again, that we have
freedom of expression and we could have adebate, discussion and discourse.
So at the end here, I will include in the shownotes when I edit the episode and post links
(10:55):
to an article in Wired magazine online aboutTikTok live and independent candidates and
third party candidates and how Robert Kennedyhave attracted viewers there.
And also reviews and summaries about thedebate.
(11:15):
That I will include.
And following along here as an end note here
is could you think about how the debate was tvdebate, television debate between Nixon versus
Kennedy in 1960s.
They're so called people who listen to the
(11:37):
radio and I will check with the survey.
But when they said Nixon so called one debate.
But when we saw him in the tv studio, we sawthat he was having these facial problems and
was on the spotlight in his face and all kindof things that they could you trust this
(12:01):
person?So when Kennedy was polished and his things,
so that was something that had lots ofanalysis and discussions about that and maybe
that have shaped the whole debate thing inmodern times.
And there something that maybe you could thinkabout with Trump and Biden, that you looked at
(12:25):
Biden and maybe thought that he looked likeNixon.
And when you looked like Trump, he's not samepolished as Kennedy, but he was very secure in
himself, even if he had his tics and jargon,his gestures.
(12:46):
So that's something to think about.
And then the whole discussion about this.
What will happen now before the election andwhat will Biden be the running person or will
Camilla Harris step in or somebody else?And also, Svend, is it time for third party
(13:10):
candidates to be in the debates also?In either way.
But I liked what they did with thisrealdebate.com and how you could use new media
in order to have your voice and have yoursaying so.
With that I say thanks for watching and talkto you soon again.
(13:33):
Bye for now.
Radhe ego net goddess.
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